1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: Now you may have heard it that Luigia Mangione is 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: beneficially indicted by a grand jury in New York for 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 2: murder and the case of Brian Thompson getting shot to 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: death by Mangione. I can say that because I saw 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: it with my own eyes on videotape. Yeah, he's the 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: United Healthcare CEO. Now, not only was he charged with 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: first degree murder, they charged him in furtherance of terrorism, 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: also second degree murder, which includes killing as an act 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: of terrorism, criminal possession of a weapon, and other crimes. 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: They put in the terrorism charge in part because New 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: York has a lot of scree rules, screwy laws, and 14 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to get into the weeds with all 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: the details, but generally we all know first degree murder 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: is premeditated. You had a plan and then you carried 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: out the plan, where second degree murder is a more 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 2: spontaneous decision, more like an act of passion. You didn't 19 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: wake up that morning planning to kill, but you did so. 20 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Well. 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: In New York, first degree murder is only for certain cases, 22 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: such as shooting a police officer or witness killing a 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: witness killing a police officer, and there had been speculation 24 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 2: that Mangio may not qualify for first degree murder, even 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: though in the traditional use of that term it seemed obvious. 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: So that's why alvid Bragg decided to add in furtherance 27 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: of terrorism or an act of terrorism, which it was 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: too because this was a cause that he was following 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: through on, but it's also a way to get him 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: a longer guaranteed prison sentence anyway they're going to He 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: was already charged with murder, but the terror allegation was 32 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: part of the new package. 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: In the grand jury indictment. 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: In New York, you get a terror allegation when the 35 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: crime is intended to or intimidate or coerce a civilian population, 36 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,279 Speaker 2: or influence the policies of a unit of government by intimidation, 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: or affect the conduct of the unit of government by murder, assassination, 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: or kidnapping. He could get life in prison without parole 39 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: if he's convicted on these murder charges. Alvid Bragg finally 40 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: found a criminal he wants to put away. He called 41 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: the killing brazen and premeditated, frightening, well planned, targeted murder. 42 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: So it's impossible to. 43 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Understand how man Jean could ever get out of this 44 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: one unless, of course, jury nullification dury nullification is what 45 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: happened in the oj trial. You had a jury who 46 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: decided to ignore all the facts of the case and 47 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: they thought they had a more important cause that they 48 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: had to support, and letting out Ojay would justify the 49 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: more important cause, which was sending LAPD a message that 50 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: the days of abuse, in their mind were over, that 51 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: this is what we're going to do. We're going to 52 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: start releasing murderers because of the unfair treatment that LAPD 53 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: has laid out against minorities in Los Angeles. 54 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: And if you're. 55 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: Thinking that this sounds outrageous to suggest there could be 56 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: nullification dury nullification in the Luigi Mangion case, it's not. 57 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: That's what hit me today. Emerson College has a poll out. 58 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: They have a pretty large polling unit, and they survey 59 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: at one thousand registered voters and among those eighteen to 60 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: twenty nine. 61 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: All right, so this would be. 62 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: Adults under thirty forty one percent believe that the murder 63 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: of Thompson was either somewhat or completely acceptable. But that's 64 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: sink in. Forty one percent of adults under thirty say 65 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: shooting Brian Thompson in the back, cold blooded on a 66 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 2: New York City street somewhat are completely acceptable. Seventeen percent 67 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: said completely, twenty four percent said somewhat. Only thirty three 68 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: percent of those under the age of thirty thought the 69 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: murder was completely unacceptable. Wow, one third there is I 70 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: hate the stereotype generations, but there is something deeply, deeply 71 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: wrong with this. I guess this is gen Z right, 72 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: a little bit of millennials. Eric, you have to account 73 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: for this. I was going to say, I've never been 74 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: prouder to be thirty. 75 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: You just made the cut. I did, you just squeaked by. 76 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: There's no chance I think this is acceptable. 77 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: What the hell's wrong with everybody who came behind you. 78 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: That's a great question. Wow, their parents wants to drop 79 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: them on their head or something. 80 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: Nineteen percent said they're neutral on the question neutral. 81 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how you can be neutral. 82 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 83 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: So you have forty one percent who thinks it's acceptable, 84 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: nineteen percent neutral. 85 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: That's sixty percent. 86 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: Who aren't really bothered by somebody getting murdered in the 87 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: streets in New York. 88 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: Hey was an executive, he was a CEO. He had it. 89 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 4: Coming because people don't like him because he made a 90 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: lot of money. And you know how the insurance company is. 91 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't like insurance companies. I don't know 92 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 4: how many people do. But we're not advocating to murder. 93 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: The CEOs of insurance companies. 94 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: I I'm just I. 95 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking at this other thing because you 96 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: may you know, if you're if you're a certain age, 97 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: you grew up getting most of your news from television 98 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: and newspapers, right and the radio, of course. But here 99 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: is polling from a poster named Doug shown Now. He 100 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: used to be Bill Clinton's bolster, and it recently hears 101 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 2: he's been a commentator on Fox and Newsmax, but he 102 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: has still has his polling company. Maybe this explains things 103 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. Three quarters of Americans under thirty get 104 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: their news from social media, eighty four percent of people 105 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 2: over sixty five, eighty four percent get it from television. 106 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: So you have and you know, I guess in between 107 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 2: you have kind of a sliding scale. The younger you are, 108 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: the less TV and the more social media. But it 109 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: was overwhelming for seniors, and it was overwhelming for social media. 110 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: And if you look at which social media, sixty one 111 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: percent of Americans under the age of thirty get their 112 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: news primarily from TikTok and fifty five percent from Instagram. 113 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: So if you run into a thirty year old, pretty 114 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: good odds they got their news that morning from TikTok 115 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: or Instagram, and pretty good odds they think shooting a 116 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: CEO is okay if he's from the healthcare industry. 117 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: Maybe I need to do a newscast on TikTok. 118 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: Uh better get it in while you can before it's banned. 119 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, January nineteenth, that might be a good idea 120 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: to shut it down. The number of people over the 121 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: age of sixty five getting their news from TikTok, eight percent, 122 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: from Instagram ten percent. Now not only see you know, 123 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: I used to think, okay, it's just a different transmission source, 124 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: right because I look at Instagram and I see, you know, 125 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: the ABC News as a feed, Fox as a feed, 126 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: and all the traditional networks. But you could see that 127 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: most people on TikTok and Instagram are not using traditional 128 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: media sources, and it's it's just a new venue. I 129 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: guess these are are just mysterious influencers. 130 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to get your news from an influence. 131 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, YouTube people, podcasters, I mean, there's a whole array. 132 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: And some of these people got noticed because Trump was 133 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: going on their shows, and I you know, I somewhat 134 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: keep track of the podcast world. But some of these 135 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: shows are apparently that Trump is showing up on and 136 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: are very popular. I'd never heard of these people. And 137 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: then there's a whole other group, you know, who didn't 138 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: make the news during the last election, where I guess 139 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: are influencing sixty to seventy five percent of the population. 140 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: I guess everybody's running their own news service now and 141 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: who knows what you're getting. But there's a lot of propaganda. 142 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: There's a lot of very uh strident ideologies that are 143 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: being promoted under the guise of news. I mean, people 144 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: think they're getting news from TikTok. Yeah, even though it 145 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: could be a crazy I'm insulted. 146 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: If you want real news, you come here k IF. 147 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: Five and you don't want anybody killed. 148 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 5: I do not. 149 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: Well, well, you. 150 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: Know you know where I stand on not CEOs. I'm 151 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: not saying that some of the idiots on. 152 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: The road right exactly. 153 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 2: I think you you hurled death threats on your way 154 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 2: home from work every day. 155 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that. 156 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: That just really shocked me because that means people under thirty, 157 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: not all of them obviously, but you got about sixty 158 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: percent are living in a different world than what I'm 159 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: living in. And it doesn't matter what we all think, 160 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter about the you know, the and 161 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: you know the news industry has discredited itself so many times, 162 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: all their bogus stories over the years. I mean, they 163 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: went really off the cliff during the Trump administration, and 164 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: it's permanently hurt them. They've lost a lot of credibility 165 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: with people. But the young people never bought into it 166 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: to begin with. They just don't watch. They never watched, 167 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: they don't care. 168 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: But you have to have some common sense and knowing 169 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 4: it's not okay just to go gun down a CEO of. 170 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: An insurance company. I mean, you really you need to know. 171 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: I mean, that's basic. 172 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: There's a woman named Taylor Lorenz. Have you ever heard 173 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: of her? She was a writer for the Washington Post. 174 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: She ultra woke, eventually got fired by the Post, and 175 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: she has like her own communications online right and she said, 176 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: if you watched a loved one die because of an 177 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: insurance conglomerate has denied their life saving treatment as a 178 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: cost cutting measure, Yes, it's natural to wish that the 179 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: people who run such organizations would suffer the same fate. Well, 180 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: you remember all the TikTok comments I was telling you 181 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: about that said thoughts and copays and thoughts and panthers. Yeah, 182 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: and I thought that was just, you know, a media 183 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 2: hype because you always find a few random idiots online, right, 184 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: you can always go to the comments section and pick 185 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: out a half a dozen of the stupid people or 186 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: the trolls. The people are just stirring up stuff. That's 187 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: what struck me. Is like, No, it looks like, you know, 188 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: forty one percent say cool. 189 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: Shoot the guy in the back again. 190 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: I understand people's frustration because I feel it too, with 191 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: the insurance industry and them denying claims and the whole 192 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: pre existing conditions. I could understand why somebody would be 193 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 4: so angry. And fortunately I haven't lost a loved one 194 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 4: who has denied insurance, and I know if I did, 195 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 4: I would be I'd be furious. But you can't you 196 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: can't say that it's okay to go and just start 197 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 4: shooting and murdering people. 198 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: Taylor of the Wrens again, she's the former Washington postwriter, 199 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: said she believes in the sanctity of life. And I 200 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans' 201 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: joy after Thompson was murdered, unfortunately, and she was being 202 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: interviewed by Piers Morgan and he said, how can this 203 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: make you joyful? The guy's a husband, a father, He's 204 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 2: been gunned down in the middle of Manhattan. Why does 205 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: that make you feel joyful? 206 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: But it does. People openly celebrated, and I. 207 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: Thought they were just acting up for their social media feed, 208 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 2: just to be controversial and cool and all that. No, 209 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: they really meant it. They're happy he's dead. They think 210 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: it's justified. Okay, we've got more coming up on the 211 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: John Cobelt Shows. 212 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 213 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 6: six forty. 214 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: All right, so almost sixty percent of the country. And 215 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: to me, this is the central issue. I mean, I mean, 216 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: there's like way too much there's way too much internet, 217 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: there's way too much television. Everybody's filling time with all 218 00:12:54,840 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: sorts of ridiculous, absurd theories on the election. It is 219 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: always first, second, and third about whether people feel like 220 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: they're doing well, that they have a job, that they're 221 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: going to keep their job, the job is paying them 222 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: enough money, and they don't have bills that are making 223 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: life difficult. Right, They're getting ahead of the game, even 224 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: if they're just a little ahead of That's all the 225 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: elections usually are. Okay, sometimes you get unusual events in 226 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 2: the world, but for the most part, your basic generic 227 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: election is how is everyone feeling and who do they 228 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: trust on that issue? And when I saw this today, 229 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 2: it's a study that's been done by wallet hub. 230 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: They do financial surveys. 231 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 2: They found that almost sixty percent of the country say 232 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: they're struggling with their debt, and half are worried about 233 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: the impact of their debt on their children. Almost half 234 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: of the Americans say that debt is taking a toll 235 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: on their health. 236 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: That's how worried they are. 237 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: They claim that debt and financial stress affects their well being, 238 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: and about forty percent think their household debt is going 239 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: to increase over the next year. 240 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: So whatever they have now, forty. 241 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 2: Percent of the country thinks, oh, you're from now it's 242 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: going to be even worse now. The thing is, the 243 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: polling showed this all year, and I think the polsters 244 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: intentionally lied. The networks and New York Times, they intentionally 245 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: lied with their stories about it. Oh it's neck and neck, 246 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: it's ee even it's like, no, it's not. 247 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: Do you know? I think the. 248 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: The percentage of people who strongly approved of Joe Biden's 249 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: administration was only seventeen percent. That was strong approval seventeen percent. 250 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: And there's a whole bunch of statistics like this approval 251 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: versus disapproval, And there was there was a line today 252 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 2: in one of the stories it's like no president has 253 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: at no party or president has ever been re elected 254 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: with numbers like that. It really doesn't matter what Trump did. 255 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: As long as he was talking about the economy inflation, 256 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: he was going to win. Because Kamala comes out and says, 257 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: I wouldn't do anything different. 258 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: What believe me? 259 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: That one line, that one moment on the view that 260 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: sunker campaign for sure. Credit card is the most prevalent 261 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: type of debt. Fifty one percent of respondents saying they 262 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: have unmanageable credit card bills. 263 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: And it used to be I thought, well. 264 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: A lot of that's your fault because people just are 265 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: compulsive spenders. They don't understand math, they don't understand that 266 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: if you, I don't know how a twenty or twenty 267 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: nine percent interest rate on your credit card, it's going 268 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: to get out of hand real fast. But not with 269 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: thirty percent inflation that was entirely created by the government, 270 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve. Iiden Kamala's spending period. End of story. 271 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: And so you know, people are paying people can't pay 272 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: their food bills and their rent bills because of all 273 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: the inflation going on. And then a research company called 274 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: Blueprint twenty twenty four did a post election investigation. The 275 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: number one reason that voters gave for not supporting Kamala 276 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: Harris inflation was too high. The differential there was twenty 277 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: four points twenty four percent more twenty four percentage points. 278 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: People said they voted for Trump over Harris because of inflation, 279 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: So that was at plus twenty four. Immigration was at 280 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: plus twenty three. And the third reason Harris too focused 281 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class. She 282 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: was behind by seventeen points on that. So she's behind 283 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: by twenty four points on inflation. Twenty three on the 284 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: Border seventeen that she was too focused on culture reals. 285 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: That is the damage that transgender ad did to Kamala Harris. 286 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: That was absolutely devastating because that is what people have felt, 287 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: they have known for all these years. Too much on 288 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: woke nonsense, woke garbage. Nobody wants to hear about transgender stuff, 289 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: racial stuff, all of that. They're fed up with the 290 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: language police. Nobody's gonna win. And you could believe in 291 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: this stuff till the day you die. If you're trying 292 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: to run on that, you're gonna lose, and you're gonna 293 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: lose badly. It's only gonna get worse. Shut up about 294 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: it already, Stop it. There's nothing new to say, and 295 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: nobody wants to hear you say it anymore. 296 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: So I'm looking here. 297 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: They what they did is they scored the relative importance 298 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: of the these issues, and those were the top three. 299 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: Inflation too high under Biden, too many immigrants crossing. Kamala 300 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 2: focused on cultural issues instead of the middle class. See 301 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: coming out and saying I was born in a middle 302 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: class family. You know, I was born in a middle 303 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: class family. You know? 304 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: Did you hear I was born That's not a policy. 305 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: That is not a policy. 306 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: Other important issues, the debt rose too much under the 307 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: Biden Harris administration. Yeah, Kamala Harris is too similar to 308 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Yes, Kamala would let in too many immigrants. Yes, 309 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: there you go, two issues economy, inflation and immigration. 310 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: That's it. 311 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: All other analysis is idiotic, stupid. I've seen black men 312 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: blamed for it, Hispanic men blamed for it, White women 313 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: blamed for it, all these demographic groups. No, no, no, 314 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 2: most everyone's saying was fed up with the inflation. Sixty 315 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: percent have debt problems. That's everybody, male, female, black, white, 316 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: the whole, you know, gay, straight, everybody. 317 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: Stop it. 318 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: Focus on what matters when you when you cover elections, 319 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: when you're in politics. Stop with the nonsense. Stop persecuting people. 320 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 321 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 6: six forty. 322 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: Ron every day one until four and then after four 323 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand the podcast on the 324 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: iHeart app. You can follow us at John Cobelt Radio 325 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: Right now. Gavin Newsom recently bought a nine million dollar 326 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: house in the Marin County. How does he do it? 327 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: He only makes two hundred thousand dollars a year. The 328 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: taxes alone, property taxes would take more than half his paycheck. 329 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: Now we know, you know, he has businesses and he 330 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: was financed originally by the Gettys. But still, what's going 331 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: on here? A nine million dollar house? Katie Grimes from 332 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: California Globe. It's trying to unravel this mystery, Katie, How are. 333 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 5: You, hi, John doing well? 334 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 2: This is this is galling, absolutely galling. You know, the 335 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: whole state's going to have to absorb like a ninety 336 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: cent a gallon gas price increase in a matter of months. 337 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: And meantime, this guy just bought a nine million dollar house. 338 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: How can you afford this? How does this work? 339 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 5: Well, I'm asking these questions too, I mean kind of 340 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 5: the title of my article was how did California Governor 341 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 5: Gavin Newsom by a nine point one million dollar home 342 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 5: on a public servant salary? Yes, we know that, you know, 343 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 5: he has some businesses, And I say that pretty loosely 344 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: because the you know, the primary investor in everything he's 345 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 5: ever done has been Gordon Getty and so you know, 346 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 5: it's not like he's some entrepreneurial guy who's you know, 347 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 5: gone out there and raised a bunch of capital on 348 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 5: his own, and then he's running these successful businesses. He's 349 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 5: he's been in government since nineteen ninety six, and kind 350 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: of similar to say Nancy Pelosi, we wonder how these 351 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 5: people get so darned wealthy while they're in government, And 352 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 5: this is just one of those cases. A nine million 353 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 5: dollar home in California is a lot of money. 354 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 2: You know. 355 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 5: Yes, plenty of tracked houses now are going for you know, 356 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 5: nine hundred thousand to a little over a million, but 357 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 5: a nine million dollar home that's not your average really 358 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 5: nice house. 359 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 2: No, it's it's fifty six hundred square feet. 360 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 5: Ye. 361 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 2: And he I mean he was living in a twelve 362 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: thousand square foot house. 363 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, and the Serramento or Sacramento. 364 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: So this is his health. 365 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 2: They're downsizing here, going from twelve thousand to about fifty 366 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: six hundred. 367 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 5: Well, they tremendously upgraded their neighborhood. They're back in Marin County, 368 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 5: so that accounts certain for you know, for some of it. 369 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 5: But what's so interesting about this is this is almost 370 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 5: the same way that the three point seven million dollar 371 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 5: house that was presented to him in twenty nineteen happened 372 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: an LLC also at that time, this one was run 373 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 5: by his cousin. Magically pays three point seven million dollars 374 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 5: cash for that estate in December twenty eighteen. Then they 375 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 5: then the LLC gifted the home to the Newsoms free 376 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 5: and clear, and they but they claimed he was a 377 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 5: member of the LLC so he could avoid the transfer tax. 378 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 5: But then mister and missus Newsom, I know this is 379 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 5: this is. 380 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: His cousin has an LLC, pays three point seven million 381 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: in cash, gifts it to the to the newsomesh. Yeah, 382 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: but Newsom is a member of the LLC, so he 383 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: doesn't have to pay a four thousand dollars transfer tax. 384 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, because he can't even do that. 385 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: Wow. 386 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 5: We really need, I desperately need a forendic accountant to 387 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 5: start walking us through this because I'm actually starting to 388 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 5: think this is a way to launder money to politicians 389 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 5: and I need that validated or shut down quickly, because 390 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 5: that's the rabbit hole I might be going down. Because 391 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 5: then mister and missus Newsom or the first partner, they 392 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 5: took out a cash out refinance of that three point 393 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 5: seven million dollar house of two point seven million tax free, 394 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 5: all right, how they get money. 395 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so they refinanced and the house had increased so 396 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: much in value they were able to walk out with 397 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: two point seven million and not pay taxes on it. 398 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, because it was the LLC that he was a 399 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 5: member of. It's like borrowing. Yeah, it's so you. 400 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: Got to pay taxes on LLC profits too, I know. 401 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 5: But what's so interesting also is that they also had 402 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 5: a house in marin at the time he was elected governor, 403 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 5: and that thing was mortgaged up to the hilt and 404 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 5: they had overdo property tax bills on it. So these 405 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 5: two don't operate the way normal mister and missus California did. 406 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 2: Wait, they were delinquent on their property taxes. 407 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yes, and he's actually so all. 408 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: Right, and they manipulate the system to avoid the transfer tax. 409 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 5: Correct. 410 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: Oh, this is bad stuff. Yes, you're the only person. 411 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: You're the only person I know that's writing about this. 412 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 5: Well, I do believe our friend Jennifer van Lauret red 413 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 5: State is also and she might have even hopefully done 414 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 5: a deeper dive than me at this point, because this 415 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 5: needs to get out. This is the kind of stuff 416 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 5: that should infuriate every single California taxpayer. As you just 417 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 5: pointed out, we are about to be faced with a 418 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 5: ninety increase on our gas taxes, which are already stupendously high. 419 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 5: And this is what this. He just operates like in 420 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 5: a whole different world. And kind of the point of 421 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 5: the article was this proves if you've ever doubted that 422 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 5: politics is made up of the elite class who sees 423 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 5: themselves as the ruling class. Meet Gavin Newsom. 424 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: This is particularly egregious and obnoxious. 425 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 5: Yes it is, Yeah, it is both. 426 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: So the does does he get do we know? 427 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 2: Does he get paid out of this LLC's purchasing the homes? 428 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: So the LC is going to pay the taxes? 429 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's why I said I really could use 430 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 5: some accounting help on this one, because he won't release 431 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 5: his taxes, even though he promised two years ago. So 432 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 5: I mean it's just and last time around, the Fair 433 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 5: Political Practices Commission just kind of ignored the fact that 434 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 5: he got this major gift of well over five hundred 435 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 5: reportable dollars. And so again it's not operating the way 436 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 5: it would for you or me. For Gavin Newsom, is. 437 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: He really going to run for president on his record 438 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 2: on the state. With the condition that California's in, he's 439 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: actually going to campaign and say, hey, look what I 440 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: did in this state. I just I can't understand any 441 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: of this. 442 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: I can't either, because, yeah, I mean, we live it. 443 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 5: We're stuck in the traffic, We're stuck with the high 444 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 5: gas prices, We're stuck with the crappy schools and the 445 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 5: terrible roads and crumbling infrastructure and homeless everywhere you turn. 446 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't see how he can run on it. 447 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 5: But he thinks he's you know, he thinks he's above 448 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 5: it all and that America is just waiting for him. 449 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: Well, that is a pretty serious delusion. That is serious 450 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: mental illness. But he's getting away with this. He's the 451 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: one in the nine million. 452 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 5: Dollar house exactly, and you're not. 453 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: And we're going to have people. 454 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 2: Are gonna have to earn an extra thousand dollars a 455 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: year to cover the gas price increase next year. 456 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: One thousand dollars a year. 457 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: And already sixty percent of the country is having serious 458 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: debt problems. According to the last study I read this week, 459 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: most of most of the public can't pay their credit 460 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: card bills, right. 461 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're making decisions about what to pay this time 462 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 5: as opposed to next time. And it's yeah, and he's 463 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 5: out there living in the nine million dollar house that 464 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 5: he didn't buy. 465 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's going to be a French revolution soon, 466 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: I think. I think so there has to be all right? 467 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: Like it? Well, Katie, keep up the good work, excellent story, 468 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: and if you find out anything more, tell us all right. 469 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: I read here. I read the website every day. 470 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: In all your articles, californiaglobe dot com. They're doing the 471 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: work of like the entire state media here. That's Katie Grimes. 472 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: We've got more coming up on the John cobelt Show. 473 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 6: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI six. 474 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I raised three boys, and you have 475 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: a son and daughter. 476 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 5: Yes. 477 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: I like to think that if one of my sons 478 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: committed three hundred and seventy five felonies out of his bedroom, 479 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 2: I'd know about it. 480 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: I would hope you would know that I would. 481 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: I would figure this out, And that, to me is 482 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 2: the most fascinating part of the story, which is rich 483 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: is really weird on its own. But you may have 484 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: heard there's an eighteen year old in Lancaster who made 485 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: his name's Alan Fillion. He made three hundred and seventy 486 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: five swatting calls or otherwise threatening hoax calls. Now, a 487 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: swatting call is when you call authorities and tell them 488 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: about a situation that's so dangerous the police send the 489 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: swat team. 490 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: And he would usually get the cops to. 491 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: Drag the victim out of the house and their families 492 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: out of the house, cuffed them all and then searched 493 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: the house for dead bodies. He'd say, there's a mass 494 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 2: shooting going on at this address, you know, go there. Now, 495 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: there's dead bodies all over the place, and so the 496 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: cops would burst into the house, grab anybody who was 497 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: alive in standing, which was everybody, and it was totally fake, 498 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: and then they'd tear up the house looking for the deceased. 499 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: And he was sixteen when he started this. 500 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: He also went after religious institutions, high schools, colleges, universities, 501 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: government officials, and just random people across the country. He 502 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: would provide false information about placing explosives explosives. He would 503 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 2: tell authorities that he and others had firearms and that 504 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: other individuals had either committed or intended to commit immediately 505 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: these violent crimes. And then he tried to turn this 506 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: into a business online and he put put like a 507 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: little ads on social media advertising his services swatting for. 508 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: A for a fee. 509 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: So if you wanted to turn somebody's life upside down, 510 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 2: you contact this guy, pay him some money. 511 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 3: How much does he charge? 512 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, and they don't know if he actually 513 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: made any sales. He did all this from his house 514 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: in Lancaster. A lot of weird things going up in 515 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: that Lancaster Palmdale area. 516 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 4: But I mean, you know what, if you're in if 517 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: you're in your bedroom right and you're you're saying you're 518 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: doing whatever, homework, whatever it is, I could I could 519 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: see how maybe I wouldn't know that my kid was 520 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: making those calls. 521 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 2: A random phone call, I could see, you know, But 522 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy five times. 523 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I would hope that I would know, But. 524 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you, my wife is way too. 525 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: Nosy, So I don't think I was nosy enough. 526 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: I I mean, ye, you hear voices, and if you're 527 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: hearing constantly that something's going on, I'd love to hear 528 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: recordings of how dead Penny was about this. He threatened 529 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: to carry out a mass shooting in Florida at a 530 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: mosque in Sanford. Mosque Jeed al Hai is the mosque. 531 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: He claimed he had an AR fifteen, a glock seventeen, pistol, 532 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: pipe bombs, molotov cocktails. He played an audio of gunfire 533 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: in the background while on the call. 534 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: I would have heard that. 535 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 3: I would have heard that too. 536 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: He also made a call to a public high school 537 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: in Washington, threatening to commit a mass shooting. Claimed he 538 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: planted bombs throughout the school. May twenty twenty three, he 539 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,479 Speaker 2: called a black college in Florida. He said there were 540 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: bombs in the walls, bombs in the ceilings. He was 541 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 2: going to detonate it, detonate them in an hour. He 542 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 2: made a call in Texas saying he's law enforcement and 543 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: claimed to have killed his mother and he's going to 544 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: kill any police officers who show up. Three hundred seventy 545 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: five times now he can. I'm trying to see how 546 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: many actual counts he was charged with, but he's he 547 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: can get five years for each count. 548 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: The stuff. 549 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: I just I want to know what the parents were about. 550 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 2: Did he have parents, Were they like laid out on 551 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: the ground drunk or methed out or how do you 552 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: do that? How disconnected from your And I saw two 553 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: different pictures of him, and one of them he's got 554 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: like a bloated face and long hair, and another one 555 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: hair shit, and he's thinner looking. And I don't know 556 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: what time periods they're from, but I mean, he just 557 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: looks like one of those loser kids, right, He looks 558 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: like the kind of kid that, Yeah, you would be 559 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: afraid he'd come to the school and shoot. 560 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: Up the place. 561 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you would kind of think that the parents 562 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 4: really weren't that involved. But I hate to I hate 563 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 4: to place blame on parents for things like this, because 564 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: maybe maybe they thought he was a good guy. 565 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: Three three hundred and seventy five times. 566 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: I mean, most likely there were issues in the household. 567 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I want to know. All Right, We've 568 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: got more. We're coming up. Poop water is back for 569 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Poop water and they're going to spend three 570 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: quarters of a billion dollars three quarters of billion dollars 571 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 2: to turn your waste water into drinking water. Any takers there, Nope, 572 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: that's next. 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