1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: When integration cost black communities everything. I welcome back to 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: it als to another episode of the most anticipated podcast 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: on the Black Effect podcast Network, especially in February, entitled 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. I'm your host, 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: b Dot, and I firmly believe that integration destroyed black communities. 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: See integration is usually told like a Nipsey Hustle album, 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: a victory lab. School's open doors open, everybody moved forward. 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: But here's the question that I rarely hear, asks what 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: got closed in the process. Yeah, let's open that case file. 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: But before we do, I've got three of the most 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: useless facts you'll never need, never, never, ever, not a 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: day in life about integration. Up first, after integration, thousands 13 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: of black schools were shut down all across South. Your 14 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: second useless facts, over thirty thousand black teachers and principles 15 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: lost their jobs in that exodus, thirty eight thousand actually 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: between nineteen fifty four and nineteen seventy two is documented. 17 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: And your third useless fact, many black owned businesses collapsed 18 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: when black dollars were redirected elsewhere. Did you know those 19 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: three useless facts about integration because I didn't. I didn't know, 20 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: did No. I didn't know. I didn't No, I didn't know. 21 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I 22 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: didn't know. Yes, integration gave black people access, but it 23 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: also dismantled black infrastructure. Before integration, black communities had black schools, 24 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: black teachers, black principles, black owned businesses, black doctors, lawyers, banks. 25 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Not because segregation was good, because exclusion forced us to 26 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: build our own systems. I'm a product of an HBCU 27 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: historically black college and university, Winston Salem State University, which 28 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: started as Slater Industrial Academy on September twenty eighth, eighteen 29 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 1: ninety two, in Winston Salem, North Carolina. Now you leave 30 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Winston Salem State University, you get on forty East, and 31 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: you had about an hour you'll get to Durham, North Carolina, 32 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: which was once called the Black Wall Street of the South. 33 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: By the nineteen forties, black owned businesses there generated three 34 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: point five million dollars annually. After integration, many of them 35 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: closed within a decade. See. When integration came, the promise 36 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: was equality, but the reality black schools were closed instead 37 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: of funded, Black educators were fired instead of promoted. Black 38 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: institutions were absorbed, dissolved, or just plaining ignored. White schools 39 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: didn't integrate into Black schools. Black schools integrated into white systems, 40 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: and then poof disappeared. The same with businesses. When access expanded, 41 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: black money stopped circulating locally, businesses that once thrived in 42 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: the black community collapsed. And this ain't even necessarily an 43 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: argument against integration. It's an argument against pretending that it 44 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: came without loss, because here's the part that gets erased. 45 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: Black communities weren't just surviving segregation. We were organizing, educating, 46 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: and sustaining our damnselves. And when those systems were removed 47 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: without replacement, a vacuum form, and that vacuum didn't get 48 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: filled with opportunity, it got filled with dependency. Nobody ever 49 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: explains that part, which is exactly why Cartgie Woodson warned 50 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: us against celebrating progress without examining consequences. He believed history 51 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: had to be complete, not comforting. And here we are, 52 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: a century later, still dealing with the fallout of solutions 53 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: that ignored Black systems instead of strengthening them. So, yes, 54 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: two things can be true. Integration did open doors, but 55 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: it so shut down entire communities, and I didn't know. 56 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't either. I didn't know h