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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up, everybody?

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Speaker 3: It's Vanessa Marshall, the voice of Harrison Doula, Specter number two,

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Speaker 3: and today I'm so grateful to.

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Speaker 4: We have what's up guys, Taylor Gray, Ezra Ridger Specter six.

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Speaker 4: And with us there is.

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Speaker 5: Hey everybody, it's your friendly neighborhood moderator John Ley Brody,

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Speaker 5: and today we're going over Star Wars Rebels season two,

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Speaker 5: episode fifteen.

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Speaker 4: The call that call sounds like a horror movie.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hell yeah, when the stranger calls. That's a classic.

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Speaker 5: How is everybody?

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Speaker 6: Family?

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Speaker 5: Checking time into those who've been commenting on our Spotify

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Speaker 5: because we did a call to action a few episodes back,

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Speaker 5: people have been checking in and letting us know how

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Speaker 5: they're doing, and we appreciate that. We love hearing from

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Speaker 5: you and and uh, Vanessa, you have brought up that

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Speaker 1: We love those fan q and as? Yeah, lovely and

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Speaker 5: A lot of Gmail accounts, man, that a lot of dedication.

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Speaker 1: How all those dummy accounts pick different passwords? Good lord?

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Speaker 1: Smart?

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Speaker 1: You know, I know.

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Speaker 4: I just get with my plan.

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Speaker 1: I love this episode. I can't wait to talk about

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Speaker 1: It's disingenuous, but I really mean it.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this episode. I really can't.

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Speaker 5: original air at eight February tenth, twenty sixteen. Here we go,

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Speaker 6: The ghost and.

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Speaker 5: maybe that was his internal model channel.

437
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 4: He did it too in this in the scene with

438
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 4: Harrow when I forget they were talking about the peartle,

439
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 4: but he does this like big sarcastic, carrious thing that

440
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 4: it made me laugh, like I did not remember him

441
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 4: doing that.

442
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 5: He's like, oh, good thing, we didn't waste their blasters on.

443
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 4: That's exactly.

444
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 1: When Canaan makes a joke, it's it's so it's so

445
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: great because he's so serious all the time. And then

446
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: when Freddy inserts like a little levity and a little

447
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: a little SaaS not sass, that's that's not a great word,

448
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, like a little attitude

449
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: to a to a line, it's like it's it's really

450
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: a treat.

451
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 5: I feel like it's like when Batman makes a joke,

452
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 5: like wait a minute, you can be funny, Yeah, what's

453
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 5: going on?

454
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 6: And it's so.

455
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: Funny, Like he's so funny that it really works. I

456
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: also love that in lieu of a jet pack, Sabine

457
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: just rides Chopper on down.

458
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 10: When you guys jumped, I was a commitment to a

459
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 10: bit let's I mean truly And what do you guys

460
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 10: just like jet Well, you didn't do what you were

461
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 10: supposed to do.

462
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 5: Anxiety.

463
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 4: It's like Spider Man and when he is trying to

464
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 4: sling his things going out.

465
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

466
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 3: But again another comment to the U are about the

467
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: animation when you're looking in the Pergol's eyes again, when

468
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 3: you're choking to death or you know, struggling to breathe,

469
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 3: when the Pergol's eyes are are sort of doing sort

470
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 3: of a hyperspace thing, and we see the reflection in

471
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 3: Ezra's eyes. That was that was incredible to me. I

472
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 3: don't I don't think I've ever seen anything like that

473
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: in animation either. Like, once again to the team, but

474
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: could you even even imagine that when you.

475
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: Were recording it that it would look that awesome?

476
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 4: I mean no, I think you made a great point too,

477
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 4: because that's something huge for me of like on screen,

478
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 4: like the biggest thing I think it is like just

479
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 4: the eyes connect with the eyes and like you'll feel

480
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 4: the human miss there, like if You're alive there, that's

481
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 4: what matters. And I'm like, oh, well, you don't get

482
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 4: that in animation, but you're right, like with this and

483
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 4: not with Ezra as much as the Pergol. Like how

484
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: they animated that. I was like, Oh, I'm feeling the connect,

485
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: the connection that I look for in various other TV

486
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 4: shows and films. You can feel it through this animal.

487
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 4: And I thought that was so impressive. And no, I

488
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: didn't know what that was gonna I'm ount to, but

489
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 4: it worked for me. Like watching this episode and.

490
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: I have a question, Sabine your hair, I mean, Tia, sorry,

491
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 2: your hair.

492
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: I'll take it.

493
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: Your hair looked.

494
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: Almost green, but I couldn't tell if it was in

495
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: the glow of the purgle or if it was more green.

496
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 1: It was like teal into best purple.

497
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 8: Right.

498
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 2: It was so great.

499
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, is this hair that I'm do?

500
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: I know this hair?

501
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 4: Like my crazy what color is it? Right now?

502
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 11: In the season I thought I thought it was blue, Yeah,

503
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 11: like a blue with purple.

504
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 4: But every fan listening to this shit, imagine what it's

505
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 4: gonna be. One of those effects.

506
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 6: It's so high.

507
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: I myself in trouble.

508
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: But it looked like teal and purple, which is not

509
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: Season two hair. I thought, okay, don't okay, you know what,

510
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, I deserve the ad ads, so bring it.

511
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: But I thought it looked quite different, and I was like, wait,

512
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: am I crazy? Is this not? Is this FORR hair?

513
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 4: Right now?

514
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: You were staring at things that were aglow? I wonderede

515
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 3: I wondered if the color of what you were staring

516
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 3: at was impacting the tone.

517
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: Of your hair?

518
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: Interesting?

519
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: It could be it question.

520
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: JC will probably have an answer, which.

521
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 5: Is even more impressive to the animation, if they could

522
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 5: simulate that sort of color reflection under her hair, because

523
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 5: that's very complex, especially back in like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

524
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 5: and I was working in post production of v effects

525
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 5: at the time, and something like that is a pretty

526
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 5: heavy lift. So yeah, maybe the clouds on thirty six

527
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 5: gas reflection reacting to her hair. Maybe it affected the

528
00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 5: hair dye.

529
00:25:59,600 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 8: I don't know.

530
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 4: Well, that's I speaking of colors. Something that I wrote

531
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: down was you or I have rarely seen yellow lasers bolt?

532
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 4: Like is that a thing for the cannons because they

533
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 4: are on like those different types of cannons, Like you

534
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean like maybe that's some JCO is

535
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 4: like do different guns like my stun gun blue, you

536
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 4: see that often red and green for these Empire blasters,

537
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: those are all like sort of classic, but yellow blaster

538
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 4: lasers you don't see. But maybe because they're on the

539
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 4: big turret cannons.

540
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: Also, those cannons were highly ineffective. It was like the cannons,

541
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a cannon. It's like that was most

542
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: unimpressed with those cannons.

543
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 5: And but back to the space sequence. I love that sequence.

544
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: It reminded me of like it's very iron Man. Obviously,

545
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 5: I said point Break in the recap because you know

546
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 5: point Break is known for like the skydiving thing. But

547
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 5: even and I mentioned Vulcan mind milk. I'm also a

548
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 5: Star Trek fan. Jj Abrams had like a space jump

549
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 5: sequence and both of his Star Trek movies and it

550
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 5: was kind of reminiscent of that too, So I know,

551
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 5: I just thought it looked so cool and then and

552
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 5: then to have and not go perfectly, whereas I was like, oh,

553
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 5: I just thought like, oh that's a perfect sequence. Like Darre,

554
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 5: there's nothing perfect, but like that was like a perfect

555
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: sequence to execute that so it's not one percent smooth,

556
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 5: but it looks like cool for like ninety nine percent

557
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 5: of it until the very end to kind of bring

558
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 5: some like levity to it.

559
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: What happened there, Ezra.

560
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 4: Performance?

561
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 5: You know, it happens to a lot of guys.

562
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 4: I heard it just looks for I think he looks

563
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 4: for the joke as well, because it makes zero This

564
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: is a great that I have. It makes zero sense,

565
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 4: like he's so powerful and then you can't come and

566
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 4: I don't know.

567
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: I couldn't stick the landing.

568
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, like okay.

569
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: Well you're not a full flat I mean you're still

570
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: you go up against such formidable.

571
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 4: I mean, if it's if it's so random when he

572
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 4: can access it and not, then he should not be

573
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 4: walking into some of the rooms he's walking into with

574
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: his chest where it's at, you know what I mean,

575
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 4: Like if he still can't rely on that bit of it.

576
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: But also I don't mind, we know where it's going.

577
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: Well, this is a.

578
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: Bit, I mean it's related, but maybe this is a

579
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: bit again off on another tangent, When when does Ezra.

580
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 4: Like Kyber Crystal No, never mind, Yeah.

581
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: Maybe I mean when do you when when does Ezra

582
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 1: become a legitimate, full fledged Jedi. Is there a moment

583
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: am I just forgetting?

584
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 4: Have we not on his chest? Another thing with Star Wars?

585
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 4: Body just kidding?

586
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: Zeb's probably yeah, yeah, he's fine.

587
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: He's a Jedi?

588
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: Is that Is that an answer I should know? Like, no,

589
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: because I don't.

590
00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: Is there a.

591
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: Moment, Vanessa la? Is there a moment where we go, oh,

592
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: he passed the test and now he is a real

593
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: deal fully filled Jedi?

594
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: Because like there are the temples? What does that mean

595
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: when they go when he like experiences the temple?

596
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm just asking because you're like, well, he

597
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't be fighting these foes, these like, you know, formidable

598
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: foes if he can't even like stick a landing from

599
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: a you know, like a non parachute but parachute.

600
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: Then he goes and shoves the thing off a second later.

601
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was just thinking, like, Okay, you have

602
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: Jedi powers, you can utilize the force, but you haven't

603
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, you're not, like you haven't figured it all

604
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: out yet. But I guess then that triggered or that

605
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: led me to wonder, when are you a full fledged Jedi?

606
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: Well?

607
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 11: I think you know, Canaan doesn't feel like one, don't

608
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 11: I don't know that you ever. I mean yes, back

609
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 11: in the day before Order sixty six, there was a

610
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 11: sort of a path, and then they now you're in

611
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 11: the council and this and that. After Order sixty six,

612
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 11: it's kind of like, I don't know, you know, yeah,

613
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 11: there's no structure.

614
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: So I think he's on the path. I feel that

615
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: his master is on the path because Canaan was never

616
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: officially right, I don't know. JC probably has a more

617
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: succinct answer.

618
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think no.

619
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, does is it is it

620
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: that Canaan doesn't feel like he's a real bona fide

621
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: Jedi or is it that he doesn't feel like he

622
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: can be someone's master? Yeah, like to train a paddle one?

623
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Or I guess are those do those go hand in hand?

624
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: That he feels like because he's an illegitimate Jedi that

625
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: he is not you know, he he doesn't have is

626
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: not the right person for the job. I guess, okay,

627
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: json and wait for jay Z to answer my questions.

628
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: That all makes sense because like it's like maybe Canaan

629
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 5: feels like he's the brown belt teaching the karate class,

630
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 5: and then I think when Canaan against Spoiler with everybody.

631
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 5: When Canaan loses his eyesight and then he has to

632
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 5: lean into something else, that's when I think he really realizes, like,

633
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 5: it's not about the external factors or how many lessons

634
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 5: you had, It's about being at one with the force,

635
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 5: and whatever your powers are will dictate what you do

636
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 5: within the force. H But I think where you are,

637
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 5: would you just touched on like where he is right now,

638
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 5: I would say that has to be part of it

639
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 5: because or in the back of mind, he's like, I

640
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 5: see this kid really progressing and he's getting close to surpassing.

641
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 5: I mean, what else can I really teach him? So

642
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 5: I would one percent say that's valid. And then in

643
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 5: the fence of and in the sense of like and

644
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 5: and on the subject rather of as there not be

645
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 5: on the fully control stuff. So find to me of

646
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 5: the show Smallville. I don't know if you all ever

647
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 5: watched Smallville back in the day, it was like the

648
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 5: Superman origin story. And in the early seasons, Clark Kent

649
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 5: is discovering his powers and he's eventually going to become

650
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 5: Superman by the end of the series. And in season

651
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 5: two he gets a heat vision but he can't control

652
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 5: it yet, so he can only like it only really happens,

653
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 5: just kind of sporadically, but then it comes to a

654
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: point where he can control it. I feel like Ezra

655
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 5: is like Clark Kent, on the verge of becoming Superman.

656
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 5: As far as when he becomes his own Superman, I

657
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 5: would say, you know, towards the end of the series,

658
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Speaker 5: when he goes to the world between worlds. I mean,

659
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 5: that would be my guess. But the person who would

660
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 5: really know is you know, on the other side of

661
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 5: the curtain right now and probably getting very frustrated here

662
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 5: in our wrong takes. You never know, But why don't

663
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 5: we find out right now?

664
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 6: JC?

665
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 5: What do we get wrong? What do we got for

666
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 5: fact check today? Okay, so these days we're not going

667
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 5: to see the mohawk, Like the Mohawk's just gone. He's like,

668
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 5: all right, you guys.

669
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Speaker 6: Uh, I'm going to start at the beginning.

670
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 12: We'll work backwards, or we'll work front to back. First

671
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 12: appearance of the Pergols. This is the first appearance of

672
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 12: the Purgirls. Is this episode going into that a little

673
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 12: bit more? The Jedi ability to communicate with animals.

674
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 6: We've talked about it a little bit in the past.

675
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 12: It's referred to sometimes as like taming beasts and the

676
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 12: first time I brought a show intel. The first time

677
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 12: it popped up was in the Tales of the Jedi

678
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 12: comic book, which was one of the first ones back

679
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 12: in nineteen ninety three. It was Uhlik Killed Droma and

680
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 12: the Beast Wars of Onderon.

681
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 4: Whoa and now.

682
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 12: They show that ability. Then back at it initially in

683
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Speaker 12: nineteen ninety three. The next time we saw it was

684
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 12: the character Jin Solo spelled jac En, which is where

685
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 12: they pulled Vanessa's Sun's name. I believe this was initially

686
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 12: one of Han and Lea's twins in the old canon

687
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 12: has that ability. And then we see it on screen

688
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 12: for the first time in canon in Star Wars episode two. Taylor,

689
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 12: you know all about Anakin Skywalker uses it to tame

690
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 12: the Reek.

691
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 6: Which is this animal. In episode two he calms it

692
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 6: down so that he can write it.

693
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: Oh so a little.

694
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 6: Bit history of that.

695
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Speaker 12: My one note from watching this episode was, did it

696
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 12: if you deep dive on the similarities between Dune and

697
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 12: Star Wars? There are many Did you notice when the

698
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 12: pergoles or per gills inhale the gas that their eyes

699
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 12: glow blue, similar to the spice and dune.

700
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: Yes, I noticed.

701
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: I don't make the connection.

702
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, oh you wrote about I just wanted to.

703
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I talked to jac before we said colluding.

704
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: Uh, you guys are sharing notes before, Yeah, sharing test answers.

705
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 5: I know I missed the study group.

706
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: That was a good one.

707
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 12: Jesson Edra says, I have a good feeling about this. Yes,

708
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 12: it's a reference to Star Wars. I have a bad

709
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 12: feeling about this is said all the time, except in Solo,

710
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 12: a Star Wars story in which Hans Solo says, I

711
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 12: have a good feeling about this.

712
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 6: Similar to this.

713
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 12: The gas that they are mining and that they the

714
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 12: Pergols consume is called clouds in thirty six, which is

715
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 12: used in Hyperspace Engines. We've seen other versions of that.

716
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 12: Tabana gas is used in hyper Drive Engines, which was

717
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 12: cloud City, which from episode That's where Lando was mining

718
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 12: tabana gas, and also in Solo. Coaxiom is a different

719
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 12: type of fuel. The color of the cannons green is

720
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 12: always used by the Empire. Red is always used by

721
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 12: the rebel. I think they just got creative and used yellow.

722
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 12: I don't think there's really a designation for that, but.

723
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: Impact did that impact the color of Sabine's hair?

724
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 6: Oh?

725
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: I the yellow?

726
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm just saying because their hair was a diffict. Yeah.

727
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 12: I mean, I think they took a lot of liberties

728
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 12: in this episode with getting creative with the lighting and things.

729
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 12: Even just when you're when Ezra is looking into the

730
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 12: eye of the pergole and you see the hyperspace, like

731
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 12: it gets a little bit like you get into their

732
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 12: head a little bit. So I think that they allowed

733
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 12: themselves some creative artistry in here with the way things

734
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 12: were done. And Henry Gilroy last week or two weeks

735
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 12: ago said that this was the bottle episode right where

736
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 12: he was like, we need to make a whole episode

737
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 12: that takes place in one location. Which it's interesting that

738
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 12: such a massive plot point was dropped in the episode

739
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 12: that they were trying to make to save money. What

740
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 12: happens with Ezra's performance anxiety. I'm going to say that

741
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 12: the ability to wield the force relates directly to focus

742
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 12: and how focused you are on a task at hand,

743
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 12: and Ezra is pretty distracted by the Pergols this entire episode,

744
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 12: no matter what's going on. So if he is unable

745
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 12: to slow his descent with the force, despite the fact

746
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 12: that his power has grown so much, I would relate

747
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 12: it back to his head's not in the game, not

748
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 12: to his lack of ability. When does Ezra become a Jedi?

749
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 12: What is the event the season four finale when he

750
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 12: lets go of his attachments and is willing to sacrifice

751
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 12: himself for the greater good and not manipulate time and

752
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 12: space to bring his parents and Canaan back. It is

753
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 12: I believe that moment of self sacrifice in which he

754
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 12: achieves he finishes his trial and achieves.

755
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: The rank selflessness.

756
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 12: Yes, we mentioned Canaan, and just on that, I'll circle back.

757
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 12: Canaan apparently became a Jedi Knight in season two episode

758
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 12: Shroud of Darkness when in his vision against the Inquisitor,

759
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 12: the granting Inquisitor, he confronts his fears and insecurities about

760
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 12: training a Padawan, how he never finished and through that

761
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 12: vision quest kind of thing. I believe that's where he

762
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 12: is regarded as a Jedi Knight from that moment on.

763
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 12: And then just to put a button on all of it,

764
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 12: there's a lot of talk about the abilities of a

765
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 12: Jedi in what makes them a Jedi? But I think

766
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 12: there are a lot of people in the galaxy who

767
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 12: have a lot of abilities and can harness the force

768
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 12: to do those abilities, race a podracer, conjure spirits in

769
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 12: the case of the Night Sisters. But I believe that

770
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 12: being a Jedi is less about specific tangible ability and

771
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 12: more about a state of mindfulness. In old canon it

772
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 12: they would discuss how Yoda would never use this is

773
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 12: pre prequels, But Yoda would never need to use a

774
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 12: lightsaber because he so in tune with the force that

775
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 12: the same way that Obi Wan Kenobi is like so

776
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 12: uncivilized when it comes to a blaster. Yoda would think

777
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 12: the same thing about a lightsaber. Or Palpatine in Return

778
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 12: of the Jedi didn't have a lightsaber because he doesn't

779
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 12: need a lightsabers. It's like an insignificant tool to somebody

780
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 12: who has a mastery of that similar I did a

781
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 12: couple of years of Akito in college, and we had

782
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 12: a guy in class who was rotc like two percent

783
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 12: body fat, just like the you know, the ultimate version

784
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 12: of what you would think of like as an alpha

785
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 12: male could kill you a thousand ways and he was

786
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 12: talking smack on the instructor, who was like a third

787
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 12: degree black belt in aikito, and we were doing weapons training,

788
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 12: and we had fake knives that we were using to

789
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 12: kind of attack and disarm each other, and he was

790
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 12: the ROTC guy was talking so much garbage that the

791
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 12: instructor took out a real knife and gave it to

792
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 12: him and said, if you can cut me, you won't

793
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 12: have to pay for class anymore. And so he flipped

794
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 12: him the knife and the r O t ROTC guy

795
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 12: charged at him overwand and before you could even blink,

796
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 12: like you didn't even know what happened. The instructor moved

797
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 12: so quickly and elegantly that the next thing you knew

798
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 12: like you were everybody's like. And the next thing you knew,

799
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 12: the instructor had the ROTC guy on the ground with

800
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 12: the knife in his hand across the ROTC guy's throat.

801
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 12: It was the most incredible thing that I didn't really

802
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 12: even get to see because it was so quick. And

803
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 12: I think that's more about the the Jedi is not

804
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 12: his ability to disarm and hitting the guy, but it's

805
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 12: the calmness of mind that allows him to almost see

806
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 12: in slow motion and know how this is going to

807
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 12: play out almost before it happens.

808
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 5: Hmm, that's what I got me, Yeah, the reflexes and everything,

809
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 5: because there's this whole to piggyback on that JC, there's

810
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: this whole thing that we don't really see things in

811
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 5: real time, but when you can are able to anticipate,

812
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 5: like on the level of your akto Master, it's almost

813
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 5: like they can see things ahead of time because they

814
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 5: can anticipate the move of the other person. That's why,

815
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: like someone like Larry Bird, who maybe athletically didn't match

816
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: up toe to toe with like someone like Magic, he

817
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 5: knew the moves of everybody else so he could get

818
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 5: there before they could. And like the perception was like

819
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 5: he was could get there quicker, not because he was faster,

820
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 5: because he just knew what they were going to do

821
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: before it. So that's really cool. Yeah, all that mindset stuff,

822
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 5: it's all very present. Obviously a lot of the Eastern

823
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 5: philosophy very present in Star Wars universe. And I lesson here,

824
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 5: don't mess with then aikto master, especially J.

825
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: Apparently we're learning also if somebody says, here, take this

826
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: actual knife and come at me, bro I I'm not scared.

827
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: I would that would get me a pause. We give

828
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: be paused. But what I what I mainly gleaned from

829
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: your fat check fact check JC, is what you're telling

830
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: us is that Taylor, sorry Ezra, wasn't. He was a

831
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: pad one the whole time, up until the very end

832
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: of our show. So when Taylor is making claims about

833
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: being like the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy.

834
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: He never said. This is just fans. It's just fans

835
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 4: just repurposing what I'm hearing.

836
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: You've talked about how powerful a Jedi Ezra is.

837
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: Let's not I'm going to tell every little kid that

838
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: comes up at convention.

839
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. But I'm just saying I didn't.

840
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: I mean, this is so educational that because I was

841
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: really actually curious, like when does when do? I mean

842
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: for Canaan too, So thanks for answering that as well.

843
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, apparently you were a padawan the

844
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Speaker 1: entire show.

845
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 4: Well, now that we've vot what is it, a couple

846
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: episodes in they go like, he's a Jedi about Canaan,

847
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: but they call him a Jedi even though let's say

848
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: he doesn't become a Jedi till charals so.

849
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: Kind of I mean, once you have a padawan, aren't

850
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: you sort of a full fledged Jedi? Is that JC?

851
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: Is that not fair to.

852
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 6: Say typically a Jedi mat a.

853
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 12: I'm trying to remember the sequence of it, but it

854
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 12: Jedi Master takes on a padawan. In Clone Wars, the

855
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 12: Jedi Council gave Anakin, who was a Jedi Knight. We

856
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 12: all know he never achieved the rank of master despite

857
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 12: the fact that he was on the Council, because we

858
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 12: see the memes. They gave him a padawan in Ahsoka

859
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 12: because I believe the logic was it would like settle

860
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 12: him down and make him be less and less impulsive

861
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 12: and more mindful. So even though he was still being

862
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 12: trained by Obi Wan, he was then tasked with.

863
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 6: Imparting that knowledge to a Padawan of his own. But

864
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 6: he was a Jedi Knight.

865
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 12: He did pass the trials to become a Jedi Knight,

866
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 12: he just never became a Jedi Master.

867
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 7: In the comments what episode you can also you can

868
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 7: also are in Stars episode one, Qui Gon is a

869
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 7: Jedi Master, obi Wan is a padawan.

870
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 6: And when obi.

871
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 12: Wan defeats Darth Maul, that is the thing that grants

872
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 12: him the rank of Jedi Knight.

873
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 5: So what you're saying is as is the most powerful number.

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Speaker 5: After all that, you all let us know what you

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Speaker 5: this week. And we again, we know you have a

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Speaker 5: trying to bring you the best content we can. And

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Speaker 5: you know we're gonna schedule that Q and A soon.

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Speaker 5: So look out for some sort of call to action

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Speaker 5: on our socials and send it to emails and all

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Speaker 5: that stuff. We look forward to hearing from all you

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Speaker 5: because there's always really insightful questions and really sweet messages.

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Speaker 5: And I think as the holidays are approaching, I think

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Speaker 5: that's I think that's the dose of wholesomeness we all need.

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Speaker 4: I think we all agree, right, yeah, So.

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Speaker 5: I think I think a Q and A is in

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Speaker 4: Taylor hear The music.

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