WEBVTT - Listener Mail: All Other Considerations Secondary 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:06.600 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.240 Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind listener mail. 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:14.720 My name is Robert. 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:17.840 Lamb and I am Joe McCormick, and it is Monday, 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.080 the day of each week that we read back messages 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.760 from the Stuff to Blow your Mind mail bag. If 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:25.319 you would like to get in touch with us, and 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.320 you haven't done it before, why not give it a shot. 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.200 You can email us at contact at stuff to Blow 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.080 your Mind dot com. 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Kenny says, Hi, Rob, 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.399 Joe and JJ, we don't have any cicadas in Scotland. 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:17.640 We have solitary noisy insects like grasshoppers, but nothing as 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:22.080 exciting as swarms of insects that synchronize their emergence from beneath. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:25.080 I checked to see if there were any cicada species 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.679 in the British Isles, and apparently the only native species 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:31.560 hasn't been sighted or heard from in over fifteen years. Anyway, 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.440 in twenty eighteen, my wife and I went on a 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:37.240 honeymoon to Japan. I have always loved studio, ghibli and 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.319 other anime, and I've often noted a particular kind of 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.400 establishing shot for scenes set in the heat of summer. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:47.560 These are accompanied by a strange, warbling, buzzing noise that 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.320 feels like a long, humid afternoon and the call of 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.320 a cool drink and a shady tree. Having no other 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.920 experience with such a sound, I had always considered it 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.200 uniquely Japanese. I had no idea what caused it. A 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.280 side note here, I spent many summer holidays in France 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.600 and worked at a summer camp in Connecticut for many 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.279 for more than a decade, so I have no idea 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:12.079 how I didn't notice circada song in those settings. Anyway, 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.880 our first day involved a walk in Tokyo, and we 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.480 decided to make for the Imperial Palace. Leaving the hotel 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.560 was like walking into a wall of heat. It was 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.120 forty two degrees celsius and the humidity was one hundred percent. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.040 Now, wait a minute. I had to stop for a 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.919 second here because I was a little skeptical. Forty two 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.040 degrees celsius. If you're more familiar with the fahrenheit scale, 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:37.040 that's like a one oh seven one o eight fahrenheit. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:41.239 And it just wasn't in my mind that Japan normally 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.280 got that hot in the summer, you know, like the 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.079 area around Tokyo would normally get that hot. So I 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.280 looked it up, Kidny, nothing personal, but I did want 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.880 to check, and I what I found was astonishing in 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.519 the summer of twenty eighteen, that that was a time 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.080 of extreme temperatures in Japan. I found a weather Underground 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.760 article from Lily twenty third, twenty eighteen about an all 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.280 time heat record of forty one point one degrees celsius 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.679 in Kumagaya, which is like seventy kilometers from Tokyo. And 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:13.200 as with many places around the world, it seems that 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:17.480 most of Japan's hottest summer month temperatures on record are 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.520 all within the last decade. So, Kenny, I apologize for 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.160 doubting you. It seems like you were right about on 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.079 the money. That was a hot, hot summer, and Japan 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.359 does indeed have some hot, hot summers. 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:31.680 Yeah. Yeah, My family, of course, just just came back 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.520 from Japan a couple of weeks ago, and we had 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.440 been warned about the summer heat, and you know, we 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.480 didn't visit during the height of the summer heat, but 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.280 there were some definitely steamy days in Kyoto and Osaka. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.000 I felt though, like we could handle it because Kyoto 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.840 felt a lot like Atlanta, Georgia, and Osaka felt in 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.320 many ways like New Orleans in terms of heat. But 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.200 also I think Osaka has some qualities to it that 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.600 are kind of like New Orleans other ways. You know, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.680 it's a big food city and so forth. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.160 Oh, but I apologize for interrupting the message. So yes, 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.600 Kenny and his fiance they go out into the wall 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.400 of heat on the way to the Imperial Palace. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.440 That's right, Kenny was saying it was hot, and he continues, 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.760 as we had yet to acclimatize in any meaningful way. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.560 The walk quickly became pretty uncomfortable. As we bolted from 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.880 one patch of shade to another. As we climbed towards 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.840 a beautiful temple surrounded by modern buildings, I realized I 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.000 could hear that strange buzzing noise I'd always associated with anime. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.039 We were so uncomfortable by this point that we just 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.680 weren't thinking about it terribly clearly, and it was only 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.080 when my wife turned to me and asked, why is 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.560 that tree screaming that I really considered it. I had 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.120 no idea anyway. We did acclimatize and had an amazing 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.720 experience in Japan, though it was months before I figured 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:52.080 out what that sound had been. Kenny from Glasgow, well, 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.080 you know Kenny's not done here though, because he does 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:58.120 have a weird house cinema recommendation. He writes, I've had 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.840 an image burned into my brain. I was a wee boy, 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.640 but I could never remember the movie it came from. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.880 It was almost a still image from an eighty sci 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.960 fi animation. I recalled a sleek white robot with a 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:13.120 hunched over elongated torso. In my memory, it stepped forward 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.640 to protect a princess before being riddled with blaster bolts. 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.440 I was on YouTube last week, and the algorithm served 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.760 of a clip. Something about it tickled my brain, and 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.599 I scrolled through one hundred or more comments looking for 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.560 the name of the movie from which the clip had come. Eventually, 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.760 a generous soul put me out of my misery. Starchaser 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.279 the legend of orin the entire thing was available on YouTube, 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.120 so I settled in to watch it. It was an 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.840 obvious Star Wars ripoff, but I thought perhaps a little 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.440 less kid friendly. About halfway through the runtime, a white 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:46.040 robot made an appearance, and I practically levitated from my sofa. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.880 That was him. I'd finally found the movie my tiny 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.560 past self had mostly forgotten. Anyway, the movie itself was 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.320 an eye opener, and I would love to hear your 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:55.920 take on it, have a good one. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.880 I haven't seen the movie, so I can't comment on 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.000 how similar it is in terms of plot, but the 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.960 poster looks like a really blatant Star Wars ripoff, except 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.520 if if Darth Vader was sort of a water buffalo. 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:13.680 I think, yeah, I have not seen this one either. 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.360 This is a yeah. This This is one I don't 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.720 know much about. I'm just kind of kind of scanning it. 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:23.599 Looks like maybe it Maybe Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.880 didn't care for it, But you know, like a lot 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.480 of things from this time period, I guess it's it's 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:31.320 kind of accumulated a cult following, and certainly these various 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.120 shows that we just got a glimpse of when we're young, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:37.719 they often, yeah, they grow in our minds and we 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.040 have to rediscover them later. 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.800 Well, now I'm really confused because I just googled starchaser 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.240 legend of Orrin Villain, and I'm just seeing a guy. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.960 He's just like a guy wearing a cape and he 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.200 looks mean, so like, what is the buffalo? And maybe 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:52.360 it's a helmet he wears. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:56.200 Maybe, So you know, I do recognize the title now 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.520 because I am reminded by the poster that it is 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.240 a three D movie, So I know it came up 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.839 in some of my our recent searches for three D 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.680 films to cover on Weird House Cinema. And indeed, one 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.000 of the posters that I've turned up says the best 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.400 three D movie ever made. Why would they put it 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.160 on the poster if it's not true? Yeah, And I 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.240 have looked up some of the robots from it. It looks 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.040 like there are several robots, and I do see the 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.600 kind of hunched over robot that I believe Kenny was 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:21.160 talking about. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:25.200 There's one still I found of a robot menacing a 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.440 tied up human guy with what looked like I don't know, gardening. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.560 Shears, ugh, all right, Well we'll have to explore in 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.280 greater detail and come back to you. 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.160 All right. We got a number of responses about Weird 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:46.040 House Cinema this week. This message comes from Brian. Brian says, hey, guys, 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.240 you said the mailbag was a little low this week. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:51.080 My theory is that you just dive so deep every 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.840 show there are no questions remaining. Well, that is categorically untrue, right, 0:07:55.840 --> 0:08:00.560 there are always questions remaining. But I appreciate the cinnamon. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.920 We do our best. Brian says, I do have a 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.600 movie to watch when it's hot, when it's too hot 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.960 to go outside. There is only one movie to watch, 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.880 or at least one series, Predator. I would argue that 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.720 it should only be watched when the temperature is ninety plus. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.520 I found myself alone for a weekend. Of course, ninety 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:24.120 plus degrees out this would be fahrenheit and trapped inside 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:28.360 with a heat sensitive octagenarian poodle. I assume that's in 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.080 dog years. We only had one choice. Watch every Predator 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.120 movie ever made. We did, but it was hard work 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.480 and required a lot of beer. The classic first movie 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.880 is certainly worthy of weird house treatment. Great plot, great character, 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.320 is a unique villain, some folklore, gruesome deaths, and a 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:49.080 second half featuring Arnold Schwarzenegger at his finest. I know 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.400 you normally stay away from big stars worth the exception. 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.400 Do we normally stay away from big stars? Not really? 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.640 I mean we've covered some movies with some of the 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.160 biggest stars ever in them. You know, it just varies. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.440 You know, I've always said the weirdness qualifier can be 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:05.800 found in various places in. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.360 A film, right. I've specified this about the show a lot. 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.199 We do movie We do very well known movies, big movies, 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.120 and obscure and very small. We try to take them all. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.480 But Brian goes on about the Predator movies suffering through 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.600 the others was brutal. In particular Predator two, with its 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.960 la settings starring Danny Glover. The gym in the series 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.760 was twenty twenty two's Prey, a prequel to the original 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.920 by one hundred years. It was exceptional. And then Brian 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.160 helpfully includes like a screenshot of all the Predator movie 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:38.640 posters lined up with an arrow pointing to pray. So 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.040 thank you, Brian. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.040 I haven't seen. Let's see what's my quick rundown on 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.080 the series. Of course, the first one's a classic. I 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.320 think it just really does not get better than the 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:52.760 first Predator movie. If you are looking for a straight, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:57.000 you know, straight to the bone, macho action horror movie, 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:58.000 that it's the best. 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.600 Yeah. I mean it's so over the top and it's 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.000 and it's machismo that if you're just if you're here 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:05.800 for it and you just want to accept it all 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:07.959 straight and you're like, yes, this is what it means 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.520 to be masculine and great, it's it's here for you. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.280 But also it's so silly. It's the cheesemo that you 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.320 can you can have plenty of laughs at it's expense 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:16.720 as well. 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:21.240 It's great Predator too. I haven't seen in many, many years, 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.840 but I have kind of fond memories of you know, 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.680 I remember liking Danny Glover and some of the minor cast. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:28.880 I think it's got Bill Paxton playing a kind of 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.400 sleazy guy, and uh, you know it's set in like 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.880 a in the middle of like a drug gang war, 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.839 and I don't know how that setting works out well, 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.840 but oh I remember it's also got Gary Busey. 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:41.760 Oh yes it does. 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.040 Yeah. Gary Busey is some kind of government agent who's 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.240 like hunting the Predator to collect its technology or something. 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.400 Yeah, this is the only point where I disagree with Brian. 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.080 I think Predator Too is exquisite, and it would be 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.320 it would probably be my main choice for weird house 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.440 cinema because it has all these strange elements to it. 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.880 You've got Gary Busey, You've got a like the what's 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.000 supposed to be like the Voodoo King of La or something. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.480 You've got Danny Glover as your hero, who's great in it. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.440 I mean I totally bought him as the hero. And 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.240 what goes in some interesting directions with the Predators. Yeah, 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.079 I love it. I think it's it's weird enough to 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:21.080 discuss on weird Hoose. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:25.640 It's the movie that established the Aliens and Predator franchise 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.960 crossover by showing the skull of a xenomorph inside the Predatorship. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:34.080 Yeah, whether that's that's possible at all now based on 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:38.360 current cannon, but still it gave birth to a lot 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:43.280 of really cool Alien Versus Predator media, and eventually, you know, 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.120 we kind of killed that off with a couple of 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:46.199 abysmal films. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.719 I agree about the rest of the series, Brian. So yeah, 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.720 Alien Versus Predator and not good good things. 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.760 I like the monsters in it, like, if you're just 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.680 going to watch the monsters. It has some great shots 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.640 of the enamore is the you know, the predators look cool, 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.920 but everything else about it is a misstep in my opinion. 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.080 I remember they made a second Alien Versus Predator movie 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.319 that was just abysmal. I remember it made me feel bad. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:17.200 I was like, I regretted watching it, which you know, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.200 I watch a lot of bad movies and usually don't 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:21.120 regret it. I find a way to have fun, but 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.480 that one just ugh. There was the one where it 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.800 had like Adrian Brody and all the people on the 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.439 Predator planet and. 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.600 Credit for cours. I think, yeah, and that one, I mean, 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.160 I remember that one is being fun, but that's not 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.400 one that stuck in my head at all afterwards. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.800 Yeah, then there was the Predator, which was the one 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.480 directed by Shane Black, which I who was a cast 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.640 member on the first movie. I watched that on an airplane. 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.720 I remember not good, not good. But Pray. I loved Pray. 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:53.400 I thought was great. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:57.360 Pray is exceptional. Yeah, I think I think Pray may 0:12:57.360 --> 0:13:00.800 be the best film in the Predator franchise at this point. 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.200 I think it's my favorite, and I would and I 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:04.640 know they're going to do I think there's talks of 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.560 even in like pre production, they're talking about doing Prey too. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:10.880 I don't know, I'm I'm I feel like they did 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.480 such a great job with one that I'm with Pray, 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.960 with the first Prey film that on one hand, yes, 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.280 I would love to have that experience again, or something 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.960 akin to it in a different time period maybe, or 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.880 the same characters. I thought Amber Mid Thunder was incredible 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.880 as the as the lead in that, I thought it 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.200 was yeah, solid just across the board. But also it's 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.640 like it's so perfect. I'd hate for them to come 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.199 back and not hit it out of the park again. 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:39.920 You know, I really loved Prey for multiple reasons. Yeah, 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:42.480 Amber Mid Thunder is great. I loved the way that 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.080 it it does something the first one does, which is 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:50.240 that it's very tactle like. It's very about like traps 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:53.120 and like the tools that the that the heroes use 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.960 against the predator, because we know all the predator's tools, 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.360 you know, the blades and all their technology and stuff. 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:01.240 But yeah, yeah, I really like the way she like 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:06.400 builds that perhaps physically implausible but movie amazing tool that's 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.280 like the retractable hatchet on the rope. Yeah, I thought 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:11.520 that one was really good. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.480 I will say that the Predator the one that you 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.040 watched on a plane, and I watched on a plane 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:20.520 as well. I did find it enjoyable and funny. It 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.200 has a lot of cool and hilarious back and forth 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.560 rapport and it's some great effects and some callbacks that 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.080 are a lot of fun. But I don't know, it's 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:34.040 no Prey, It's no Predator one or two. So it's 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.760 still worth watching on an airplane, probably if memory serves. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.120 It had some problematic choices in some of its plot 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:45.040 elements that ended up, you know, being a bit of 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.520 a misfire, but still it has some very cool Predator effects. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.880 It's it's ultimately a fun Predator flick, and you know, 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:56.360 I'm not completely opposed to predators going up against xenomorphs. Again, 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:57.640 like I say, I think there was a lot of 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:01.680 great alien versus Predator media and comic books and novels 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:06.200 and video games. I think the two do go well together. 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:11.200 That's why they ended up being brought together. It seemed 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.360 like a great versus matchup. I think that the big 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.160 issue in those AVP films is that they bring the 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.640 xenomorphs to Earth, and they do so in a contemporary setting, 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.800 and that just should not be. That's what you need 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.280 to do, is you need to do what most of 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:29.960 I think the secondary media was doing. You need to 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.480 put the Predators in the alien universe. That's where the 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:34.280 magic happens. 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:37.800 I think that makes more sense. So essentially the setting 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:42.160 is like the movie Aliens. You have Alien, you have Xenomorphs, 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.360 and you have space marines or something in that kind 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:48.000 of you know, whaleen Utawni Corporation kind of stuff, and 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.520 then Predators appear as the wild card. 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.800 Yeah, exactly. And I know there have been at least 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:58.720 some comic books that have have gone into the alien world, 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.760 you know, post Prometheus and Covenant and added in the Predator. 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:08.320 I think Dan Abnett wrote one of them. I was 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.200 just looking around his stuff, but I haven't read it. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.480 But still, yeah, there's still a room for a predator 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.000 in there, if it's written correctly, if it's introduced in 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.520 a way that I think honor is both xeno morphin 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:29.520 predator and of course the intelligence of the audience. All right, 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:33.040 Our next one comes fittingly from David. David says, hey, 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.520 they're Robert and Joe. Just listen to your episode on Creature. 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:37.760 Weird House Cinema is my favorite part of the podcast. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.960 And thought of something while you were talking about how 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.560 the suit in the movie is basically an inversion of 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:46.640 how Burke was in Aliens. In the movie Jurassic Park, 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:51.280 the bloodsucking lawyer Gennaro comes across as slimy, going so 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.040 far as to run away during the t Rex attack, 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.680 leaving the kids in the car. In the book, however, 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.520 Gennaro is almost the complete opposite. It ends up being 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.680 quite the uh. I don't want to use the curse word, 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:09.719 let's say phenomenal butt kicker here hero at the end 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:14.359 helping Grant clear out velociraptor nests. Anyways, thought it was 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.760 interesting that both creature and aliens feature opposite soup type characters, 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.080 and both the novel and movie of Jurassic Park do 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.240 as well. Thanks for all the awesome and informative episodes 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:26.439 you put out, David. 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:29.440 Yeah, I remember about it. So I was a big 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.200 fan of Jurassic Park when I was in elementary school, 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.439 and I went movie first, and then I grabbed the 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.600 novel and read it. And one of the most shocking 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.879 things about it was the difference in how Gennaro is 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:43.040 depicted and in how Hammond is depicted. You know, in 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.240 the movie, Hammond is a sweet old man with a 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.879 maybe he's a bit naive, but he has a dream of, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:51.880 you know, really just doing something magical. In the book, 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.680 he is a much nastier character, just a greedy old 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.639 man who you know, doesn't care who he harms making money. 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.119 And I Gennaro also, I think, I don't know if 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.600 i'd say in the end he comes off great, but 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.680 he certainly is the opposite of cowardly the way he's 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.720 portrayed in the movie, Like at one point he does 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.560 punch of a loss raptor in the face. 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.040 Yeah, I read the book around the time the movie 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.880 came out. I honestly can't remember if I read it 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.800 in anticipation of the movie or afterwards, but it's been 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.200 a long time, so I remember some things were different. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.520 I mainly remember the different characterization of Hammond, and I 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:30.040 remember the t Rex having a prehensile tongue. 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.120 Yeah. But I was thinking, actually a little bit more 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.480 about this difference between the lyman Ward character and Creature 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.719 and Burke in Aliens, and somehow I feel like it 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.960 works in both cases. But it works especially because of 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.480 the different age vibes they have. I don't know how 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.159 old each actor actually was when they did these roles, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:52.320 but so lyman Ward in Creature is at first he 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:56.040 seems like a completely selfish, cowardly, you know, corporate suit. 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.760 But he's an older guy, and something about the way 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.680 that he's older and off more like a dad kind 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:05.679 of makes it make more sense when he comes around 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.879 in the end and is actually, uh, sort of self sacrificing. 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.800 There's something about the way that Burke reads is very boyish. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:17.040 His charm is very young and boyish. He's got a 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.280 young kind of handsomeness Paul Reiser does in Aliens that 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.080 makes it make more sense when he is actually all 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.879 his charm initially is revealed to be a facade, and 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:28.440 he's just a total slime ball. 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:30.479 Yeah, and it makes it all the more slimy when 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:34.320 he calls Ripley kid. Yeah, it's like, like really like, 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.480 she's even if we take out the cry of Sleep, 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:40.320 like like, don't call Ripley kid. Come on, she not 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.080 older than him, He's yeah, she's a great deal older 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.679 than him with of course, you know, cry sleep added in. 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.600 One of my all time favorite slimeballs. By the way, 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:51.359 I just think of Burke so often he kudos to 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.800 Paul Riiser. It's he does the role so well that 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:59.359 you almost want to hate him. Yeah, but it's just 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.679 acting folk. Yes, all right, let's do one last message. 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:04.800 I think this is in response to us generally talking 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:08.200 about alien knockoffs. A Creature was one of those movies 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:17.879 considered an alien knockoff. Nathan says, hello again. The X 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.360 Men have a recurring nemesis that are a fairly obvious 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.800 attempt to ride the alien wave, called the Brood. Though 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:30.400 the Brood are sentient, psychic, sadistic spacefarers with a more 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:34.280 wasp like design. They first appeared in the time between 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:38.680 alien and Aliens, March eighty two, Uncanny x Men number 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.800 one fifty five, and like Joe mentioned about the film, 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:46.760 creature seemed to anticipate some tropes later established by Cameron 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.119 and Fincher at all, like the concept of a queen 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:54.159 slash hive mind and hatchlings that incorporate traits from the 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:58.160 host organism. Robert, do you, I know you've been into 0:20:58.280 --> 0:20:59.840 X Men lately? You know something about the Brood? 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.879 I know them mainly from the Marvel Snap you know 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.479 mobile game. They're they're in that, But I don't think 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.760 I've ever consumed any X Men media that features them, 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:12.360 like I think they're they there's some sort of alien 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.840