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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, let's go ahead and dive into the

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Speaker 2: mail bag here. First one here comes to us from

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Speaker 2: Kenny and it's a response to our episodes cicadas and

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Speaker 2: also some weird house cinema thoughts. Kenny says, Hi, Rob,

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Speaker 2: Joe and JJ, we don't have any cicadas in Scotland.

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Speaker 2: We have solitary noisy insects like grasshoppers, but nothing as

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Speaker 2: exciting as swarms of insects that synchronize their emergence from beneath.

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Speaker 2: I checked to see if there were any cicada species

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Speaker 2: in the British Isles, and apparently the only native species

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Speaker 2: hasn't been sighted or heard from in over fifteen years. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, my wife and I went on a

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Speaker 2: honeymoon to Japan. I have always loved studio, ghibli and

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Speaker 2: other anime, and I've often noted a particular kind of

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Speaker 2: establishing shot for scenes set in the heat of summer.

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Speaker 2: These are accompanied by a strange, warbling, buzzing noise that

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Speaker 2: feels like a long, humid afternoon and the call of

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Speaker 2: a cool drink and a shady tree. Having no other

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Speaker 2: experience with such a sound, I had always considered it

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Speaker 2: uniquely Japanese. I had no idea what caused it. A

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Speaker 2: side note here, I spent many summer holidays in France

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Speaker 2: for more than a decade, so I have no idea

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Speaker 2: how I didn't notice circada song in those settings. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: our first day involved a walk in Tokyo, and we

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Speaker 2: decided to make for the Imperial Palace. Leaving the hotel

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Speaker 2: was like walking into a wall of heat. It was

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Speaker 2: forty two degrees celsius and the humidity was one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Now, wait a minute. I had to stop for a

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Speaker 3: second here because I was a little skeptical. Forty two

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Speaker 3: degrees celsius. If you're more familiar with the fahrenheit scale,

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Speaker 3: that's like a one oh seven one o eight fahrenheit.

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Speaker 3: And it just wasn't in my mind that Japan normally

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Speaker 3: got that hot in the summer, you know, like the

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Speaker 3: area around Tokyo would normally get that hot. So I

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Speaker 3: looked it up, Kidny, nothing personal, but I did want

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Speaker 3: to check, and I what I found was astonishing in

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Speaker 3: the summer of twenty eighteen, that that was a time

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Speaker 3: of extreme temperatures in Japan. I found a weather Underground

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Speaker 3: article from Lily twenty third, twenty eighteen about an all

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Speaker 3: time heat record of forty one point one degrees celsius

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Speaker 3: in Kumagaya, which is like seventy kilometers from Tokyo. And

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Speaker 3: most of Japan's hottest summer month temperatures on record are

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Speaker 3: all within the last decade. So, Kenny, I apologize for

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Speaker 3: doubting you. It seems like you were right about on

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Speaker 3: the money. That was a hot, hot summer, and Japan

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Speaker 3: does indeed have some hot, hot summers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, My family, of course, just just came back

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Speaker 2: there were some definitely steamy days in Kyoto and Osaka.

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Speaker 2: I felt though, like we could handle it because Kyoto

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Speaker 2: felt a lot like Atlanta, Georgia, and Osaka felt in

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Speaker 2: also I think Osaka has some qualities to it that

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Speaker 3: Oh, but I apologize for interrupting the message. So yes,

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Speaker 3: Kenny and his fiance they go out into the wall

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Speaker 2: That's right, Kenny was saying it was hot, and he continues,

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Speaker 2: as we had yet to acclimatize in any meaningful way.

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Speaker 2: The walk quickly became pretty uncomfortable. As we bolted from

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Speaker 2: We were so uncomfortable by this point that we just

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Speaker 2: you know Kenny's not done here though, because he does

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Speaker 2: have a weird house cinema recommendation. He writes, I've had

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Speaker 2: It was almost a still image from an eighty sci

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Speaker 2: to protect a princess before being riddled with blaster bolts.

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Speaker 2: I was on YouTube last week, and the algorithm served

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Speaker 2: I scrolled through one hundred or more comments looking for

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Speaker 2: the name of the movie from which the clip had come. Eventually,

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Speaker 2: a generous soul put me out of my misery. Starchaser

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Speaker 2: the legend of orin the entire thing was available on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: so I settled in to watch it. It was an

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Speaker 2: obvious Star Wars ripoff, but I thought perhaps a little

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Speaker 2: That was him. I'd finally found the movie my tiny

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen the movie, so I can't comment on

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Speaker 3: poster looks like a really blatant Star Wars ripoff, except

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Speaker 3: if if Darth Vader was sort of a water buffalo.

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Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I have not seen this one either.

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Speaker 2: Looks like maybe it Maybe Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel

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Speaker 2: of things from this time period, I guess it's it's

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Speaker 2: kind of accumulated a cult following, and certainly these various

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Speaker 2: shows that we just got a glimpse of when we're young,

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Speaker 3: Well, now I'm really confused because I just googled starchaser

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Speaker 3: legend of Orrin Villain, and I'm just seeing a guy.

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Speaker 3: He's just like a guy wearing a cape and he

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Speaker 3: looks mean, so like, what is the buffalo? And maybe

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Speaker 2: Maybe, So you know, I do recognize the title now

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Speaker 2: a three D movie, So I know it came up

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Speaker 2: in some of my our recent searches for three D

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Speaker 2: films to cover on Weird House Cinema. And indeed, one

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Speaker 2: of the posters that I've turned up says the best

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Speaker 2: on the poster if it's not true? Yeah, And I

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Speaker 2: have looked up some of the robots from it. It looks

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Speaker 3: There's one still I found of a robot menacing a

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Speaker 3: tied up human guy with what looked like I don't know, gardening.

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Speaker 2: Shears, ugh, all right, Well we'll have to explore in

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Speaker 2: greater detail and come back to you.

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Speaker 3: All right. We got a number of responses about Weird

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Speaker 3: House Cinema this week. This message comes from Brian. Brian says, hey, guys,

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Speaker 3: you said the mailbag was a little low this week.

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Speaker 3: My theory is that you just dive so deep every

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Speaker 3: show there are no questions remaining. Well, that is categorically untrue, right,

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Speaker 3: there are always questions remaining. But I appreciate the cinnamon.

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Speaker 3: We do our best. Brian says, I do have a

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Speaker 3: movie to watch when it's hot, when it's too hot

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Speaker 3: to go outside. There is only one movie to watch,

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Speaker 3: or at least one series, Predator. I would argue that

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Speaker 3: it should only be watched when the temperature is ninety plus.

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Speaker 3: I found myself alone for a weekend. Of course, ninety

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Speaker 3: with a heat sensitive octagenarian poodle. I assume that's in

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Speaker 3: dog years. We only had one choice. Watch every Predator

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Speaker 3: and required a lot of beer. The classic first movie

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Speaker 3: is certainly worthy of weird house treatment. Great plot, great character,

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Speaker 3: is a unique villain, some folklore, gruesome deaths, and a

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Speaker 3: second half featuring Arnold Schwarzenegger at his finest. I know

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Speaker 3: Do we normally stay away from big stars? Not really?

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Speaker 2: I mean we've covered some movies with some of the

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Speaker 2: You know, I've always said the weirdness qualifier can be

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Speaker 3: A film, right. I've specified this about the show a lot.

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Speaker 3: We do movie We do very well known movies, big movies,

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Speaker 3: But Brian goes on about the Predator movies suffering through

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Speaker 3: was twenty twenty two's Prey, a prequel to the original

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Speaker 3: by one hundred years. It was exceptional. And then Brian

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Speaker 3: the series. Of course, the first one's a classic. I

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Speaker 3: first Predator movie. If you are looking for a straight,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's so over the top and it's

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Speaker 2: straight and you're like, yes, this is what it means

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Speaker 2: But also it's so silly. It's the cheesemo that you

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Speaker 3: It's great Predator too. I haven't seen in many, many years,

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Speaker 3: I remember liking Danny Glover and some of the minor cast.

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Speaker 3: I think it's got Bill Paxton playing a kind of

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Speaker 3: sleazy guy, and uh, you know it's set in like

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Speaker 3: and I don't know how that setting works out well,

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Speaker 3: but oh I remember it's also got Gary Busey.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes it does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Gary Busey is some kind of government agent who's

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Speaker 3: like hunting the Predator to collect its technology or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the only point where I disagree with Brian.

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Speaker 2: I think Predator Too is exquisite, and it would be

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Speaker 2: it would probably be my main choice for weird house

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Speaker 2: and play it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But speaking, oh man speaking, this connects several things

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Speaker 3: we've talked about today. So yes, there is imagery in

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Speaker 3: more if it's trying to ride aliens in some way,

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Speaker 3: but it also rips off Predator, specifically in its box arts.

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Speaker 3: If you look up the cover of the original Contra game,

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Speaker 3: marine guys on the front, who are I guess the

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Speaker 3: characters who play as fighting these aliens and the guy

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Speaker 3: on the left. That is just a line tracing of

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Speaker 3: Arnold Schwarzenegger from the poster for Predator. Have you ever

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Speaker 2: And no, I don't think i'd really put one and

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Speaker 2: two together on that, but you're right.

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Speaker 3: They changed his face somewhat, but otherwise, like his body

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Speaker 3: and clothing, it's the same. Oh yeah, I even found

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Speaker 3: an image online side by side showing how it's exactly

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Speaker 3: the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Arnold. But if his face was a

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Speaker 2: young Brian James.

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Speaker 3: Well, why doesn't that exist? It should make that meat happen.

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Speaker 3: All right? Should we wrap it up there?

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