1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: My parents won't stop playing favorites with their grandkids, so 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: I refuse to help them. Hey, I play favorites with 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: my grandkids. I played not favorites with my parents. Yeah, 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: am I dayle for taking all the stuff I've provided 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: to my parents for my kids. Background, my parents have 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: always favored one grandchild over the others, and it has 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: been shown since day one. By the way, this comes 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: from Itchy ad sixty three ninety two on the R 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Size Okay Storytime subrend. Granddaughter Abby Spoiled one and granddaughter 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Bri Mine Younger are a couple of months apart in age. 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: It's fun and nice to have cousins close in age, 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: but my parents have always had more to do with Abby. 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: They've always seen her more and do more with her 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: than Bri, despite us both living in the same town. 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: Last week, me and my family spouse, son, and daughter 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: were invited over to my parents for dinner to celebrate 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: my birthday. After getting there, my mom informs me my 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: siblings and their family is joining us too. I say, oh, 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. She then says, well, figured you 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: want to celebrate with everyone. Sure, it's fine. Problem though, 21 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: is my mom doesn't have stuff at her house for 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: all the kids. Example, she's the only one that has 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: a high chair, but there's two kids at dinner that 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: need a high chair. Had she told me they were coming, 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: I could have brought one, but didn't inform me. Therefore, 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: granddaughter Abby got to sit in the high chair up 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: on the table with us, and I had to sit 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: with my daughter in my lap and try to eat. Meanwhile, 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: we're celebrating my birthday and I'm having a hard time 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: even eating. It was annoying. 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sounds annoying having to eat with a 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: kid in your lap. That's why they make those chairs. 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: They're like little they're like little uh yeah restraint. They're 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: like little straight jackets for kids, just for the so 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: they could eat without without escaping way. You know, parents 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: understand then, yeah, they are just take a little mini jail. 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: It's a food jail. I had two brothers that I 38 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: had to do this with kid brothers. 39 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: Would you call it food jail? 40 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: Sure? Sure? Yeah, sometimes cake jail when it was their 41 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: first birthday, Kate. Oh yeah. Then on Thanksgiving we show 42 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: up to my parents and we're over an hour late 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: due to my mom never actually telling me a time 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: we're supposed to be there, I guess based on previous years, 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: which would have put us on time. They waited for 46 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: us to eat, but then again, there's only one high 47 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: chair and three kids there on the holiday who need one, 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: and my mom says, okay, granddaughter Abby, get in the 49 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: high chair. No one, no questions of who's going in 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: the high chair or if they're going to take turns. Nothing. 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm annoyed. They all waited over an hour supposedly for 52 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: us to get there to eat, but no one said 53 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: anything to me needed to bring a high chair. I 54 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: was already bringing a lot to Thanksgiving and didn't think 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: I needed to bring that too, thinking she would tell 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 1: others to bring there since they weren't bringing as much 57 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: as me. Okay, whatever. My daughter's ignored, like always then 58 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: looking at the table to eat, and she doesn't have 59 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: enough to and she doesn't have enough plates set out. 60 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: At that point, I said, screw it. I'm leaving. Clearly 61 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: we're not thought of and I don't feel welcome. I 62 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: pack up the kids and get them out to the 63 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: car to leave. My son is saying he wants to 64 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: stay and eat, and my spouse says they'll take him 65 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: in so they can eat. I say, that's fine, I'm 66 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: not going back in. I stay in the vehicle scrolling 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: social media while they go eat. My dad comes out 68 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: and tells me to grow up and take responsibility. I 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: told him, y'all sat here for how long knowing there's 70 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: one high chair, and none of you thought to message 71 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: me or call me and let me know to bring mine. 72 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: He said, enough of the blame game. Take responsibility for 73 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: not bringing yours. 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: I mean, that's not it's not really that fair. 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: It's not that fear. 76 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: She's it's Thanksgiving, she's got this kid. It's like, do 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: you know how hard it is to wrangle a small 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 2: child on a holiday when you've got meals. 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: And food you're also trying to bring, Like and dad, 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: It's not about the high chair. You have to look 81 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: deeper than this, right, It's not the high chair. 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: It's the baseline disrespect that is being shown to Opie 83 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: and her child. 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: Yep, just disregard. I said, how about granddaughter Abby goes 85 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: without it since they didn't bring one either. I supply 86 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: you and mom with all kinds of things for my 87 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: kids to make it easier on you. Yet I'm still 88 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: expected to do and bring more because what I give 89 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: is use for others and I don't care as long 90 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: as my kids are getting what they need. He told me, whatever, 91 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: take your crap, and I said I will, so I didn't. 92 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: I took everything I've given them to have for my 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 1: children when they are there, car seats, baby gates, toys, cups, plates, toothbrushes, diapers, whites, 94 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: everything that was mine. 95 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to learn how to go without now. 96 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: And Abby's gonna cry now being told on the a hole. 97 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: And I hurt the other kids because I took my 98 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: stuff back I had there for my kids, and I'm 99 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: being blamed because one of the kids actually got hurt 100 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: because I took the baby gate. And I feel bad. Okay, 101 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: got hurt, but I also don't feel I'm responsible for that. 102 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: Like they're saying, okay, wait pause, because like taking the 103 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: baby gate, that might have just been one step too far. 104 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: You could take all the other stuff, you don't take 105 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: the safety equipment. But it is proving the point where 106 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, well, why didn't you bring your own 107 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: baby gate? Like that would be the exact same logic 108 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 2: that's being thrown at her. Yeah, so's it does make 109 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: it clear that it's not fair, But don't take the 110 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: baby gate for future reference. Don't take the baby gate. 111 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm responsible for my kids, not others, even when they 112 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: benefit from what I do for my kids. And when 113 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: I was told to take my stuff, I did. I 114 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 1: feel like they just use me for what I do 115 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: or supply what makes it easier for them, but none 116 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: of them and realize how much it is until it's gone, 117 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: and they blame me because they don't have it. So 118 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: am I the a hole for taking my stuff after 119 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: my dad told me to? And we got a freaking 120 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: up date, y'all where we going to dive into it? 121 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: Right now? We can dive in right now? All right, 122 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: let's go. High chair is my mom's, so she wanted 123 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: to add some details. High chair is my moms that 124 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: she got for her house. She has a few things 125 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: for the kids, but I supplied a big chunk of 126 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: her things for her. I believe it's my responsibility to 127 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: make sure my kids have whatever they need whenever they 128 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: are there. I didn't care if any other kids benefited 129 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: from what I brought, with the condition that it's mine 130 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: and my kids get to use it, and the others 131 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: can have it when they are present. So I left 132 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: everything on my parents' house for them to have whenever 133 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: they needed it. For any kid in my core, I 134 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: want all kids to be happy, healthy and safe. Anyone 135 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: who knows me, I will go above and beyond for 136 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: a child. I double check car seats for parents. I 137 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: buy diapers and wives and parents need it. I make 138 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: sure kids have something on their birthday to know that 139 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: you have thought of and loved. I love with all 140 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: of my heart and I give my all, and I 141 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: know that screws me at times, So believe me when 142 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: I say I was crushed and hurting when my sister 143 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: in law texting me a child was hurt because you 144 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: took your baby gate. That's what made me come to Reddit. 145 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: I questioned everything I did because of that one statement. 146 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: So thank you to those that told me not to 147 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: and it was not my fault. There's a lot of 148 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: talking that happened with me and my mom about Thanksgiving. 149 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: I told her, you and Dad need to make a 150 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: plan to have food ready by one pm if you 151 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: were wanting to eat by three pm, because you guys 152 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: are always running late. Loll. She laughed and agreed with me. Therefore, 153 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: I interpreted that food was being ready by three pm, 154 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: not one pm. She never did tell me a time again, 155 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: so I planned for the normal three pm time that 156 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: I've done my entire life. We talked on the phone 157 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: three times that day and various things in regards to Thanksgiving, 158 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: but being told to bring on highchair it was not 159 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: one of them. If you ask my siblings, I'm the spoiled, 160 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: rotten favorite, being the youngest. They also refuse to see 161 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: me as an adult and not a child, so if 162 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: anything happens, I can be blamed, and I am being 163 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: in therapy for the majority of my adult life. I've 164 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: learned my family is abusive or has abusive tendencies, So 165 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: I've learned they manipulate me by telling me you're the 166 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: spoiled one, You're the baby, You're the favorite, and you 167 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: could be our favorite. Every weekd at three PMPSD. We 168 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: need you to want to slive on Facebook, Yeah, YouTube, Twitch 169 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: and TikTok boom. You'll tap your profile, You'll be our baby. 170 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: We don't care. Is OP actually the spoiled one here 171 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: or we being abusive? 172 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: Well, there's no way to know for a fact because 173 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 2: we don't have the full context of her entire upbringing 174 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: or anything, but. 175 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't. 176 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: Feel spoiled to just be like, what come on, guys, 177 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: someone should have give me a heads up. I needed 178 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: a highchair here. And it's like, you know, whise, I 179 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: don't necessarily know if what we've read can be classified 180 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: as like my grandparents are clearly playing favorites with like 181 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: this one kid, like Abby, she's getting in the high chair. 182 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know. It seems like I'm sure 183 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: there's other contexts in which that's happened, but like there 184 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: is a point to like, if this has happened in 185 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 2: the past and you've had a situation where it's like 186 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: the high chair is not there, well you should be 187 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: aware maybe might be the high chair. But also this 188 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: is Thanksgiving, You've got probably a lot of other stuff 189 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: going on. If you're bringing food, yeah, you know, it's 190 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: it's understandable that that might go by the wayside, especially 191 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: if there's a bunch of people there who could give 192 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: you the heads up. Hey, by the way, we don't 193 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: have three highchairs, so you might want to bring yours 194 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: would have been nice, So I can understand that. But 195 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: then also taking the baby gate, I get I get 196 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: the line, but that one like you could have taken 197 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: everything else and not the baby gate. 198 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: Cross the line that's crossing. 199 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: Why can't I do this crossing the line? 200 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: There we go. I really couldn't figure that out. We're 201 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: gonna finish this up. A few people said to go 202 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: to my in laws for family functions. My own laws 203 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: are beyond worse than my own family. The favoritism is extreme. 204 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: Mother in law doesn't like me because I took her 205 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: baby boy away from her. Oh my gosh, but that's 206 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: a whole different can of worms. Needless to say, I'm 207 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: very low contact with them, and after this post, I'm 208 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: going to be low contact with my own family. I'll 209 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: opdate after I talk to my parents about it all, 210 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: and I'll let y'all know, and I'll let y'all know 211 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: how they take being told. Me and my family will 212 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: be going low contact. 213 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: And that is the end of that story. 214 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: Good move, Op, that's tough, very tough thing to do. 215 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: But also, OP, you should apologize for the baby gate incident. 216 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: You should apologize if they if the kid got hurt 217 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: because you took the baby gate. 218 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: You need to really you need to apologize profusely. 219 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: Apologize for that, because it's kind of that was a 220 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: that was a high school type of move to do, 221 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 2: especially knowing that it's there to keep a baby safe. 222 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: There to keep a kids safe. So but yep, that's 223 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: the end. 224 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,119 Speaker 2: That is the end of that story. My cousin's jealousy 225 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: destroyed my daughter's confidence, and she won't apologize. Maybe your 226 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 2: daughter should just be a better person. Oh, I think 227 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: she is such a good person. That's why the cousin's 228 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: so jealous does sound much anyway. Op is forty nine female. 229 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: Her cousin who's getting married is twenty three female. The 230 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: daughter in question, who is the aerialist, is sixteen female. 231 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: I hope this is okay to share. The reason I'm 232 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: posting is because of my daughter, who's been hurting in 233 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: the aftermath of a recent performance. I'm sorry in advance 234 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: for how long this turned out, but any but any 235 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 2: advice from fellow aerialists would be greatly appreciated. 236 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: Okay, good. I thought it was this theater and also 237 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: got to be like, oh my gosh, no aerialist. Do 238 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: you know what aerialist is? 239 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry you're disrespecting the theater. 240 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: I have a pretty I have a lot of baggage 241 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: with theater chicks. Okay, a fair enough. I have to 242 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: live with one. Yea, I was a theater boy. I 243 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: was a little theater rat. Yeah, man, I was. I 244 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: was John and the Little Woman John Brook. 245 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: Oh see, we didn't get to do cool plays like that. 246 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: Are anyway I could rant about my drama teacher? 247 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can anyway. 248 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user throw away the 249 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: Finances on the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So my cousin, 250 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: Dana not real name, had her wedding two weeks ago, 251 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: and she asked if my daughter could perform at her reception. 252 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 2: My daughter, Jane, also a fake name, had has practiced 253 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: silks and lyra for the past few years at a 254 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: nearby circus studio, and she's also performed with Slash through 255 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: the studio at small gigs. 256 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 257 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: Just for anyone watching who's not familiar with what we're 258 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: talking about, it's like people who do like acrobatics on 259 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: like curtains almost like you're like they're like big flowy 260 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: drapes like pieces of cloth, and they like swing around 261 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: and do all kinds of flips. 262 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: And if you don't know go to the zoo keeper 263 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: at the wedding scene that they crash and there's a 264 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: scene of these people doing that, the zoo keeper Kevin James. 265 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: Anyways, she hopes to continue this into adulthood and become 266 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: a professional teacher, but this recent incident has shaken her confidence. 267 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: She has a private Instagram to document her progress and performances, 268 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: and I only post certain performances on my Facebook. Her 269 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: first gig with the studio and her first recital, to 270 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: name a few that we're proud of. 271 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, you're being an awesome mom. 272 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: Yes, w mom supportive in a way that your daughter's 273 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: comfortable with. 274 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, just like how any mom would hopefully, how any 275 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: good mom would do. 276 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 2: Well. 277 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: My mom's great. 278 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: She's very supportive, but sometimes she can be so supportive 279 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: that it makes me anxious, and I have to tell 280 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: her to like that I love her deeply and that 281 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate. 282 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: It so much, but that it just really needs to. 283 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: Like just a little bit less, a little bit less, 284 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: and it's not your fault, it's on me, but like, please, let's. 285 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Why on Facebook to see what mom's saying about me. 286 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: Some of our relatives saw her performances through my socials, 287 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: and they watched her perform at her studio's Christmas recital 288 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: when we hosted Christmas at our home a few years back, 289 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: something that surprised her when they visited early to see her. 290 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: I love how they coordinated that, and Jane said it 291 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: was her loudest cheering section to date. 292 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: So that's good positive memories. 293 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: Dana was one of the relatives who came up early 294 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: to see her Christmas recital, and she's always been super supportive. 295 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: She asked me if Jane would be willing to perform 296 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: at the reception, and I asked on her behalf. Jane 297 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: was honored and excited when I did, and we already 298 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: had a portable rig for her too, though we ended 299 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: up renting a taller one from her studio. Dana got 300 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: the idea from a YouTube video featuring an aerialist who 301 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: performed at a wedding reception, and she showed us while 302 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: requesting white silks and a white outfit. We scoped out 303 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: the venue and purchased white silks along with a white 304 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: costume that Dana approved of, and Jane was really excited throughout. 305 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: I feel like it's a bold move going white costume 306 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: at your wedding, right, Like maybe they're trying to do 307 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: a little artsy thing, but like I hope she doesn't 308 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: just like flip the script and is like, I don't 309 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: want you to wear white? 310 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: Like I can see that happen. Are fans. Out of 311 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: all of the things that they've been split on with 312 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: the poll, the one thing that they're always one hundred 313 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: percent on is not worrying why to a wedding. 314 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: Jane even worked on choreography to a song that Dana requested, 315 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: and she put a lot of time into it, even 316 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: asking one of her coaches to help her with it. 317 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: Dana insisted on paying her for the gig, despite Jane 318 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: not expecting to be paid, and she paid her a 319 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: few hundred However, Dana has had a change of heart. 320 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: Oh boy. 321 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: Jane received a standing ovation after her performance that surprised her, 322 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: But we didn't know anything was wrong until Dana went 323 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: on Facebook a few days later. Dana said she didn't 324 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: approve of the outfit Jane wore and that she specifically 325 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: told her to not wear white. 326 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: Come on, look who was right? Go back to you him? 327 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: He was right and Dana's the bride, right. Ana is 328 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: the bride. Yep, you never wear right, no matter even 329 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: if the bride tells you, hey wear Why you never 330 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: wear white? Clearly. We have seen stories upon stories where 331 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: this Exac's instance has happened. You never wear white's a wedding, 332 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: no matter what. 333 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: Even if they tell you clearly, because she just flipped 334 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: the script. 335 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: Don't do it. Oh my gosh. 336 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: She also said that my husband and I pressured her 337 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: to have Jane perform and that the performance gave off 338 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: a quote unquote unclassy vibe lies that my husband and 339 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe. 340 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: She was saying, Oh man, it was like, here's what happened, 341 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: here's what happened. You wore you had the most special 342 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: day of your life. You wore a big wedding dress. 343 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: You you had head to toe looking beautiful, and then 344 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: someone stole the attention from you for how many How 345 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: long do you think not? You know, it's a performance. 346 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: I can't imagine it's a longer than five or ten minutes. 347 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you couldn't taken it. That's so hard to 348 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: do too, It's oh yeah, it takes a lot of core. Yeah, 349 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: and you can't handle that. You can't handle you literally 350 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: you can't handle the attention. 351 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: You set yourself up to get upstaged at your own wedding, 352 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: and now you're making it Jane's fault instead of your 353 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: own fault. So we sent Dana numerous costume links and 354 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 2: we purchased the one she liked. There was also nothing 355 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: wrong with Jane's performance. Dana was one of the people 356 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: cheering afterwards. Jane received nothing but compliments, but I'm disgusted 357 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: that she had to see that post after all the 358 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: work she put into her performance. The post also had 359 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: comments disabled. For what it's worth, Oh, she wouldn't even 360 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 2: let people clap back. Oh, Dana, that was a cowardly move, Dana. 361 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: So I called Dana to confront her about her lives, 362 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: but she didn't pick up numerous calls. I then called 363 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 2: her parents, who like us, had received messages about her post, 364 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: and they said that Dana was wrong. They apologized on 365 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: her behalf and said they were also disgusted. Dana's mom 366 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 2: also said that Dana vented to her before making her post. 367 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 2: A few days after the reception, Dana told her that 368 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: she regretted asking Jane to perform given the attention, compliments, 369 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: and cheers she received. 370 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: For it. 371 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: Her mom also said that she felt upstaged with Jane 372 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: wearing white and having to hear how good she was. 373 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: This is like the guy. 374 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 2: This is like the meme of the guy riding a 375 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: bike and he takes a stick and shoves it into 376 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: the front wheel and falls down. Like that's what Dana 377 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 2: did to herself here yesterday. 378 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: It was so funny, dude. 379 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: Honestly, that's a great stunt. Like shout out to all 380 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: the stunt men who who do that? Stuntman and stunt women, 381 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: but the stunt people. Yeah, he just said he women 382 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: can't do that. 383 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: It's a great stunt. I didn't. There's stunt people, I 384 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: guess you know. 385 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: Anyway, Dana's parents tried to call her after she made 386 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: her post, but she didn't answer after their previous conversation 387 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: ended with her parents telling her she shouldn't be bitter 388 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: because she specifically asked Jane to perform. Dana's parents reported 389 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: the post along with us and others, and we've told 390 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: the truth to those who reached out along with a 391 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: post to explain our side and to stand up for Jane. 392 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: We literally have text proof of sending costume links that 393 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: Dana chose from Dana's parents also requested to talk to 394 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 2: Jane on the phone to apologize for Dana's behavior. My 395 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: husband and I told Jane that Dana was wrong and 396 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: that we'll be distancing ourselves from Dana permanently. Dana's parents 397 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: were surprised at her behavior, and we were too, having 398 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 2: seen her grown up. Granted, we only see extended family 399 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving in Christmas because we live far, but other 400 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: relatives were surprised too, as it seemed to come completely 401 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 2: out of left field. Maybe there's a site of Dana 402 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 2: we'll never know from our limited holiday slash milestone interactions, 403 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: but our focus is on Jane. We've tried to cheer 404 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: Jane up by offering to take her to dinner, among 405 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: other activities, but she's been hurting, which is why I'm here. 406 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: Jane hasn't practiced at home or the studio since the reception, 407 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 2: and I don't want to invade her space at her 408 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 2: studio by asking or telling anyone there in case she 409 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: doesn't want anyone to know, which is a good move, 410 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: good job. You need to talk to her first before 411 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: you decide to do that. She asked me to return 412 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: the white silks and costume after being so excited to 413 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: receive them. She also said she's going to take an 414 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: extended break from Ariel to reconsider if she wants to continue. 415 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: That would be a huge mistake, but we'll get into 416 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: that later. 417 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: Let's keep going. 418 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 2: Aside from Ariel, she's taking a break from seeing non 419 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: aerial friends too, choosing to pretty much. 420 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: Keep to herself. 421 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: We would appreciate any advice from fellow aerialists on how 422 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: to lift her spirits. We remind her of how we're 423 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: proud of her, along with the many compliments she received, 424 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 2: but she's asked for space and to not talk about it. 425 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: We're going to respect that and let time do its thing, 426 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: but we'll consider any advice from other aerialists who can 427 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: relate to the time and work she put in. Sorry 428 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: for this being so long, but we appreciate anyone who 429 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: reads and takes the time to reply. So we do 430 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: have an update here. Before I get into the update, 431 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: we've got the ages. The bride is twenty three, the 432 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: performers sixteen, with the bride being twenty three and the 433 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: performer being sixteen, and like you know. 434 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: They're they're probably Joe. 435 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: The bride is young, it's it's understandable that she maybe 436 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 2: had that immature response, but I mean it's not it's 437 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: not forgiven or excusable, but it's like it makes sense 438 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: that this isn't like someone in their thirties or forties 439 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: like saying this to switch up like that, you know, 440 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 2: probably impulsively was like, oh, yeah, let's do the white 441 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: because that's what the video that I saw looked like. 442 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: And it's like she wasn't really thinking, and then in 443 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: the moment she realized, Oh, I hate how I feel 444 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 2: like I'm being It's supposed to be me. 445 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: It's me, me, me. 446 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: This is my day, my day. Yeah, and it's fair. 447 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: It's your wedding. You get to make it your day. 448 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 2: But in terms of like how to go about I 449 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 2: think recovering the confidence, it's like sixteen is a real 450 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: delicate age. She doesn't want to talk about it. I 451 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 2: don't think you should just let it go because it 452 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: could really become a damaging thing. You don't want this 453 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 2: to become like a core memory that, like in four 454 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: how she moves throughout her life from now on, because 455 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: it is completely on the bride for doing the switch up, 456 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: for lying, for deceiving and it's because she feels insecure 457 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 2: about her own stuff and she's now projecting that insecurity 458 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 2: onto Op's daughter, and you know that's not fair to her, 459 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 2: but you can't strong arm it because it's just gonna 460 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: make her shut down. More So, if you can figure 461 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: out how to have this discussion about how to you know, 462 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: kind of stand ten toes down and if that makes 463 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: sense or like be like, you know, prop even if 464 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: people have you know, I want to talk crap on 465 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: you or talk down on you to like be faithful 466 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: in yourself and have your own beliefs in yourself. Maybe 467 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 2: find a different context outside of the performance to have 468 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: that discussion. You know you're gonna have to maybe do 469 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: a little tactical conversation talk there because she clearly doesn't 470 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: want to talk about the moment. 471 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: But let's get into the update. 472 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: Before I get into what's happened since my last post, 473 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: I want to thank everyone who took the time to comment. 474 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: Two pieces of advice really stood out, and I'll get 475 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: to them shortly. Since my original post, Dana's Facebook post 476 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: is gone. I don't know if she deleted it or 477 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 2: if enough people reported it for Facebook to remove it, 478 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: but We're glad it's gone either way. 479 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you repost that video, turn the 480 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: comments on, let us do its thing. That's what I 481 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: would have done. 482 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, she never apologized to us or Jane or even 483 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: bothered to call, so our position on being permanently done 484 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: with Dana stands. My husband and I made a post 485 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: on Facebook addressing the lies she spewed about our daughter, 486 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: and we shared photo proof of Dana's texts where she 487 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 2: approved of Jane's white costume from the links we sent, 488 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: not to mention the song choice that she sent us to. 489 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: Better Yet, Dana's mother reposted it on her account, which 490 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: really surprised me. Dana's mother wrote that they loved Jane's 491 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 2: act and that they disapproved off Dana's acttions. My husband 492 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 2: and I also made sure that Jane was okay with 493 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: us addressing it on Facebook, and she said it was fine. Again, 494 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 2: w parenting move, making sure your child is comfortable with this. Normally, 495 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: I wouldn't use Facebook to address drama if it's aimed 496 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: at me, but since this involves a grown adult attacking 497 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: my daughter, a minor, we felt the need to address 498 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: it publicly because she disparaged her publicly, and Jane will 499 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: remember whether we stood up for her or not. 500 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Years from now. 501 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: I had a chance to speak with Dana's mother since 502 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: my original post on the phone, and she spoke to 503 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: Dana again since our last call. Dana reiterated how she 504 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: regretted asking Jane to perform, but she harped on the 505 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: standing ovation that bothered her the most. Dana told her 506 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 2: that she expected Jane to get some polite applause, but 507 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: that the overwhelming response really sent her over the edge 508 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: because she expected the loudest cheers to be when she 509 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: and her husband entered the reception, but that went to 510 00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: Jane instead. So Dana's just like, I was jealous, really. 511 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Jealous, that's what it wants from the beginning. 512 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: Does she think that's an appropriate excuse for her behavior? Though, Like, 513 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 2: that's absurd at twenty three to be like, but you 514 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: don't understand, I was really jealous and I was Everyone 515 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,719 Speaker 2: enjoyed her more than me. That's not okay. 516 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: That sounduacceptable. I have seen Worris. 517 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 2: You gotta swallow that pill like an adult and say, 518 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: all right, and you know what, you cheered and applauded too. 519 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 2: If I remember correctly, Dana and her husband also received 520 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: a great reception when they entered the reception, but Jane's 521 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: performance did too, and Dana didn't expect it. 522 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, heck, even Jane. 523 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: Was surprised by the reception she got. She had never 524 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: received a standing ovation from a solo act before. But 525 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: Dana's mother believes that if Dana had asked someone to 526 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: sing who received a similar reception, Dana's jealousy would have 527 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: been exactly the same. Someone suggested seeing if Jane would 528 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: be interested in speaking to a therapist, given how hurtful 529 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: Dana's comments could be for a teen, and Jane said 530 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: she's open to it, so long as it isn't a 531 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 2: counselor at school, because as of now she doesn't want 532 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: anyone at school or her studio to know about the incident. 533 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: And she vaguely told the coach who helped her choreograph 534 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: that it went fine. We will respect her privacy request 535 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: as it's her right to control the narrative. Hey, w parents, 536 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: they're doing everything right about this. Also, you know, I 537 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: can't believe I whift. I should have suggested gently advising 538 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: potentially therapy. 539 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: Here I am getting the bride behind clothes. Curtains said 540 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: something to the girl, what do you mean behind like, hey, 541 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: you shit, you're the worst person ever. 542 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like she like, beyond the Facebook post, 543 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 2: there was another interaction. 544 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: That's really gotten to Ope's daughter. 545 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that you could be right about that using just 546 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: in his side. You know, at sixteen, little things can 547 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: really really get at you. Yeah, And all it could 548 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: take is like a sentence or two that no one 549 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: else heard, and all of a sudden you just feel 550 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: like you're. 551 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: Waking or if you put all your worth and this 552 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: is what's rying and this is good, and then someone 553 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: doesn't validate that because these are very You need a 554 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: lot of validation at this age. Like am I on 555 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: the rack track? You need to be checking with a 556 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: lot of people on that. 557 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, just imagine she does that whole performance and then 558 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: like you know, at the end of it, she's with 559 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: the bride and she just lets how to Oh yeah, 560 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: you don't think that was maybe a little overdone, a 561 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: little trashy, a little bit a little unclassy. I mean 562 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: it was great. I love you, but I'm you know, and. 563 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: He shouldn't were wyat you are? 564 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: Now she's gonna be like ooh. 565 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: Uh exactly anyway. 566 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: But in the same vein, I suggested therapy for Dana 567 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: to Dana's mother since her reaction might be a bigger insecurity, 568 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: and she said that she'd ask. The other thing someone 569 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: suggested was the possibility of Dana's husband or anyone making 570 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: an inappropriate comment to Jane during the reception that made 571 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: her shut down and not want to see friends or practice. 572 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: Days before Dana's post look at this guy. Knowing exactly, 573 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: my husband decided to ask her and Jane said no 574 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 2: when he did. If something happened, perhaps she'd be more 575 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: comfortable telling a therapist with time. But on the bright side, 576 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: she said she might want to try a different aerial 577 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: studio because she doesn't want to answer questions on how 578 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: it went or share a video at her home studio, 579 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: So we will help her find somewhere new, as she asked, 580 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: We hope she doesn't permanently leave her current studio because 581 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: she has friends and coaches who are supportive, and she 582 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: performs with that studio's troops at festivals and gigs. But 583 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: I personally understand the need to sometimes go somewhere where 584 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: nobody knows you for a break and we hope that 585 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: that will help her. But by the way, we want 586 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 2: to know you and you can know us by joining 587 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: our live every weekday at three pm PST. When we 588 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: go live on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, and TikTok. All you 589 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: gotta do is tap on our profile and if you 590 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: want to be a mega fan, you can stream all 591 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: four of them at the same time. But before you 592 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: go and do that, hold on for a second, because 593 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: we're gonna collect ourselves here and finish the story. 594 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: One thing that I. 595 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: I think you might you could wait for therapy, or 596 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: you could try to have this conversation. I feel like 597 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: it's an important conversation to have as parents with, like, 598 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: you know, a child who's at this age right where 599 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,959 Speaker 2: they're sort of in between adolescents and adulthood where it's 600 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: like not that it's a game, but it's like, you 601 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: don't want this one moment to just shatter the dreams 602 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: you're you're not not necessarily I mean, yeah, she kind 603 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 2: of shattered the dream because she's not she's not doing 604 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: it anymore, like she got real cold on it. But 605 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: it's like now she's like, oh, I don't want to 606 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: have to talk about it because you know, because it 607 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: makes me feel uncomfortable, it makes me feel bad or 608 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: like so I just want to like go somewhere else. 609 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: And that's like. 610 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 2: In a way, like that's the situation that has happened. 611 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: Is what's now holding the power over you? And you know, 612 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 2: really the focus point of that needs to be that 613 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: you crushed it and you had a standing ovation and 614 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: one person had a problem with it because of their 615 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: own problems had nothing to do with you. 616 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: You crushed it. 617 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: The only thing that had to do with Op's daughter 618 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: was that she did so well that it literally made 619 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: the bride jealous. 620 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: So it has nothing to do You. 621 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 2: Should continue because you're excellent at it, and don't let 622 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: anybody steal your shine. Like that's really what it's all about. 623 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: So trying to have that conversation. If she's not receptive 624 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: to it, maybe she'll have to have it in therapy. 625 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 2: But I feel like that's a real important conversation to have, 626 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: Like don't just fold. It's like, oh, you're uncomfortable, all right, 627 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: we'll put you somewhere else, because sometimes you gotta stay 628 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: in the discomfort. That's a fact of life. Sometimes you're 629 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: gonna be uncomfortable, and especially if it's something a positive 630 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: aspect of her life that you know that's being impacted. 631 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 2: You don't want her to just like sort of fold 632 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: in that job, but you don't want to push her 633 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: too hard. You know everyone you know, I think that 634 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: parents know how to parent their children better than anyone 635 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: because they have all the context. But in general, that's 636 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: what I would say. So let's finish the story. She 637 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: hasn't said definitely to therapy yet, but if she does, 638 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: we will take her. She still wants an extended break 639 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: from Ariel in the meantime, but even if or when 640 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: she goes back, she said, she may never want to 641 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: perform again and would rather do it leisurely, one of 642 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: the reasons she doesn't want to return to her home 643 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,239 Speaker 2: studio where she's part of their troop. She asked if 644 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: we'd tell her troop coach that she won't perform with 645 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: them anymore if it comes to it, and if that's 646 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: what she wants down the road, then we will. Another 647 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: note here, it's like, if that's what she wants, that's fine, 648 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 2: but she needs to be the one to say it. Yep, yep, 649 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: she needs to be the one to say it. Hopefully, 650 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 2: time heals this wound and helps her at least keep 651 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: the friends that she has there. But we can only 652 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: hope and that is the end of that story. 653 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 654 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: I mean I think maybe with some therapy and with 655 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: a good conversation, you know, I understand wanting to be like, 656 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that they're babying her right now, 657 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 2: right because it's like everyone's different, and if she is 658 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: really sensitive, I mean clearly I'm gonna go out on 659 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: a limb and say she is very sensitive because this 660 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: is clearly impacting her. And who isn't sensitive at sixteen? 661 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: You know? 662 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, oh, yeah, I'm. 663 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: Talking about the daughter. I'm done with Ariel. I don't 664 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: want to go back to here. And it's like, you know, 665 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: she's been crushing it there and now this one thing 666 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: is just like sending her down. But I think Dana 667 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: needs to apologize to Yeah, that's a big thing. Once 668 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: that happens and you clear the air, she can probably 669 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 2: come back. But it's gonna take tom. 670 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: It needs to. Yeah, I think if. 671 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if the daughter was involved in any 672 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: of the conversations with Dana's parents when they called and 673 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 2: apologized on her behalf, but I think if she wasn't 674 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: definitely have that be a thing she needs to hear 675 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: from outside that she did nothing wrong. 676 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: But that is the end of that story. I've seen 677 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: in that story, and I refuse to throw a baby 678 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: shower party, but my family threw one without me. Anyway, 679 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: sounded like you really needed a shower. That must it 680 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: must have stunk over there. 681 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole for going no contact with 682 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 2: my family and my husband's family because they had my 683 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 2: baby shower without me. I'm posting because I'm curious what 684 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: other people's reactions would be if they were in my situation. 685 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: It also seems like I'm the odd one out since 686 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 2: people think I'm crazy or rude or awful insert whatever 687 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 2: bad name possible. By the way, this comes from user 688 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: low phrase sixty six eighty five on the r slash 689 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 2: Okay storytime subrend it. So this situation happened right at 690 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 2: the height of COVID in August of twenty twenty. I 691 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: don't want to make this a long post, but I 692 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 2: do think all the information listed below is relevant to 693 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 2: the story. 694 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: Bullet points. I love bullet points. 695 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 2: My husband worked in a hospital with active COVID patients 696 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: all of my in laws were high risk for contracting COVID. 697 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: At the time, pregnancy didn't make you high risk. We 698 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: were still learning about the disease. Now I believe it does. 699 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I were to have a baby 700 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: shower it would be towards the end of my pregnancy, 701 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 2: because that's when I would feel comfortable that the likelihood 702 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 2: of a miscarriage is lower. Now onto the story. COVID 703 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 2: was pretty rough on all of us At the time. 704 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 2: I had a three year old and I was pregnant 705 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: with really really bad nausea as well as aches and 706 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: pains that seemed to never end. The nausea didn't even 707 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: go away with medications. I did my best to stop 708 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 2: it and just continued life as normal as possible, even 709 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: though we were stuck inside and all of our activities 710 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 2: were no longer happening. My husband, as I mentioned, and 711 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: worked in a hospital and he dealt with COVID patients. 712 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: Because of this, we were extremely careful. When he came home. 713 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 2: He would remove his clothes and shoes and put them 714 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: in garbage bags. He would immediately put them in the 715 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 2: washing machine, bathe in our downstairs bathroom, and then would 716 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 2: come up to see us. 717 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: Okay, so he was super extra careful. I mean, yeah, 718 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: he was. 719 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: I feel like working in a healthcare setting, it's like 720 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna know how to be careful too. 721 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 2: We would sanitize and wear masks when necessary. Basically, we 722 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 2: followed protocols that were told to us at the time. 723 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: My in laws, however, had different plans, which they are 724 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 2: entitled to. They didn't quarantine, they didn't socially distanced. They 725 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 2: shared masks and had large gatherings at their house, one 726 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 2: of which was a wedding in their backyard. I didn't 727 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: want to go, but my husband convinced me. We wore masks, 728 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: socially distanced and didn't go inside the house. I will 729 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 2: admit I was angry because I was told everyone would 730 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: be wearing masks except the bride and groom, but no 731 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 2: one did. I maintained my distance and told myself, I'm 732 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: not doing that again. It was very obvious that I 733 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 2: was trying to stay safe. My husband included it was 734 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: very hard to keep a three. 735 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: Year old away from the people he loved. 736 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: And I sincerely was doing it for their benefit, knowing 737 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 2: that we were the ones who could contract it since 738 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 2: my husband worked in healthcare and could give it to 739 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: his family. One of my sister in laws kept telling 740 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 2: me that she would see us in a few weeks. 741 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: I was confused at first, but didn't think much of 742 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: it because I was too nauseous and tired and dealing 743 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: with my toddler to try to decipher what that meant. 744 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 2: Got a very understandably yeah. When it came closer to 745 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 2: the date, I had a feeling that she was throwing 746 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 2: me a baby shower. However, I'm not a baby shower 747 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: type of girl. I don't mind if other people have them, 748 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 2: I just don't like them for myself. 749 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: I have a friend that's not a birthday kind of guy. Friend. 750 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, what are you doing for your birthday? 751 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: I want to come blah blah blah. I feel like 752 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: it's pretty common. 753 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 2: I was like that for a long time. I'm just 754 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 2: now starting to come out of that. 755 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah he is. He invited me to his birthday. Actually 756 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: I invited myself to his birthday thing. Wow, I'm glad 757 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 1: that you did to. 758 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: I had a baby shower for my first kid, and 759 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: I told my mom and sister in law explicitly that 760 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 2: I am only doing this for you all, and because 761 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 2: it's the first grandchild on both sides. They knew this 762 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: before my first baby shower, and they definitely knew this 763 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: while planning this one. My husband has since told me 764 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: that he told them I wouldn't like it because of 765 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: this feeling. I texted my sister in law a few 766 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 2: days before the date she told me, and I asked 767 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 2: if she was having a baby shower for me. She 768 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 2: said yes. Isn't that great when people plan things you 769 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: explicitly don't like? 770 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 771 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. I told her that I'm not going to be 772 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: able to attend. I have very bad nausea as I 773 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 2: have been having especially lately, and I'm tired, and more importantly, 774 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: it would be irresponsible of me to have her put 775 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 2: something together like this given the circumstances. We were literally 776 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 2: a town that had just become red, which meant the 777 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 2: numbers were going up pretty severely, and they were warning 778 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 2: us to remain six feet and whatever else advisory. 779 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: O Oh, yeah, they were in the red. 780 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 2: I also told her that it's a really nice and 781 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 2: thoughtful gesture, but I wouldn't be able to morally live 782 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 2: with myself if we convened and someone got severely sick, 783 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 2: just because I wanted to party, which again I didn't 784 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: and would never as I'm extremely introverted. 785 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: She said okay, and I thought it was done. 786 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 2: I get a call the next day from my friend 787 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 2: saying that my sister in law called her to say 788 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: I'm not coming to my baby shower and that I 789 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 2: my friend probably don't want to go since I wouldn't 790 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 2: be there. The friend was super super cautious and still is, 791 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: and was only going to my baby shower to make 792 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 2: me happy. She literally felt like she was risking her life. 793 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: My sister in law told her safety precautions were going 794 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: to be in place and that it would be outside. 795 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 1: So she agreed. 796 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 2: She called me surprised because she thought it was a 797 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 2: surprise for me, But then my sister in law called 798 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 2: and told her that I knew and that I wasn't coming. 799 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: What is going on there? 800 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 2: How do you throw a baby shower when the mom. 801 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: Is not there? Yeah, they're just it's yeah, It's like 802 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: they like they were trying to surprise her. 803 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 2: They like booked like a really expensive like musical artist, 804 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 2: so they're like, we're still doing it. 805 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: Dog is there? 806 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 2: We already paid Kesha one hundred grand for your baby shower. 807 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 2: You have to come, So I told my friend, Yeah, 808 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 2: I would never do this, and especially during a time 809 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 2: like this, especially knowing who my family is. Unfortunately, literally 810 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: no one in my family is healthy. High blood pressure, cancer, 811 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 2: high cholesterol, health issues, asthma, severe allergies, fragile bones, arthritis, 812 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 2: just to name a few conditions. And this is just 813 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: off the top of my head, with the in laws 814 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: in my mom's side of the family. My friend and 815 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 2: I hung up, and I thought nothing of it. It's done, 816 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 2: no harm, no foul, right. I literally thought she was 817 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 2: making her calls to whoever she invited. Till this day, 818 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 2: I don't know who, and I just thought it was 819 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 2: over wrong, Oh no, yeah, and then continues it rolls. 820 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,959 Speaker 2: The next day, my older cousin texts me and tells 821 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: me that since I didn't show up to the baby 822 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 2: shower and I didn't want the homemade cupcakes, she would 823 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: take them back home with her. I said, what, you 824 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 2: were invited, it's happening, how I was shocked. 825 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: Since you didn't show up, I'm taking my homemade cupcakes 826 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: for myself. Well, you had the baby shower, but I 827 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: it's my baby. Yeah, woaho was somebody, cause playing as me. 828 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: That would be pretty awkward. Like okay, I mean, I 829 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 2: guess it could be cool. It's like, oh, y'all were 830 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: all celebrating me even though I wasn't there. That's kind 831 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 2: of sweet. But I feel like I feel like they're 832 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 2: not doing it for OP. I feel like they're doing 833 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 2: it for themselves. Oh yeah, of course, So it's like 834 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 2: it's not that really, it's not that sweet. 835 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 836 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 2: No, I couldn't believe that they had my baby shower 837 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 2: quote unquote without me. I felt terrible because she is 838 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: another one who literally had not left her house since March, 839 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: worked from home, her kids were home from school, her 840 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 2: wife also worked from home. She had her groceries delivered, 841 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 2: the works. Again, another person risking their lives to please me. 842 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 2: But it wasn't for me, especially knowing that they had 843 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: the entire event without me, didn't cancel anything, and didn't 844 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 2: follow any supposed protocols. I was immediately angry, immediately hurt, shocked. 845 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: Whatever feeling I likely had it other than happiness. Oh 846 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 2: till this day, I'm still confused as to how anyone 847 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: would think it's okay to have a baby shower when 848 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 2: the mother is in present. Yeah, that's like so common sense. 849 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 2: Thankfully I'm not sad or angry or hurt anymore, but 850 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 2: it's definitely still insane to me. 851 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: It is pretty work. 852 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, like what I guess they just that family just 853 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 2: loves baby showers, and I. 854 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: Would make more sense of it. It was like Op's 855 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: first kid, but this is a second kid. Yeah, it's like, 856 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: we don't need to do this again. 857 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 2: And she's literally already explained her position of I did 858 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 2: this for the first kid so that the grandparents could 859 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 2: have this experience, so that, you know whatever, don't really 860 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 2: feel a need to do it again. 861 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: And plus with everything happening in the world at that time, Yeah. 862 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 2: In the middle of COVID, at the height of the 863 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 2: beginning of COVID, we didn't really know anything about it, 864 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 2: so it's like extra spooky. My husband immediately went into 865 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 2: defending his family. My cousin told my mom and aunt 866 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 2: that I wasn't happy about what was going on. They 867 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: both called and tried to defend themselves. My mom in 868 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,800 Speaker 2: particular said quote, I wanted to celebrate my grandchild and 869 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: you can't stop me. 870 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: From doing that. You have your own celebration. Oh, it 871 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: sounds like you already did. 872 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I guess I kinda that makes sense a bit, 873 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: but I don't know. It feels like purposefully excluding the 874 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 2: mom is weird where it's like would you want to 875 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: at least like how are there on a video call anything? 876 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 2: But it's like the mom is like, I don't want 877 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 2: to do it. So I guess it makes sense that 878 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: they wouldn't reach out that hard because they're like, well, 879 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 2: she already said she doesn't want I don't know. This 880 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 2: is a strange situation. 881 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you call that? Not baby grand baby shower? 882 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm having a baby shower for my grandchild anyway, And 883 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 1: you know what, She's right. 884 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 2: I can't stop her from doing that, even though I 885 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: think it's crazy. But do it at your own party 886 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 2: with your own friends. Why make me aware of it 887 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 2: at all? As though it was for me that that 888 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 2: actually is the clarify that that clarifies why it's weird. 889 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: It's because if the grandparents wanted to celebrate the grandchild, 890 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: they could have done it within their own unit. But 891 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 2: it was like, oh, PE's friends that were like quarantining 892 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 2: and isolating, like during this moment went here being like wait, 893 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 2: where's ope like that? That would make me like, what 894 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 2: are we doing? 895 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: Like what it's like? 896 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 2: What are you trying to flex that you don't care 897 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,280 Speaker 2: about like COVID Like to my friends who care about it, that's. 898 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: Weird to my husband that works in this field. 899 00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Anyways, I see this as a major betrayal. My 900 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 2: mom and I have had a very tumultuous relationship. She's 901 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 2: been physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually abusive. My aunt has 902 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 2: defended her, and my other aunts and grandmother think that 903 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 2: she can do no wrong. Oh, Mom's the golden child. 904 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 2: She's the one who told my sister in law to 905 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 2: still have the party because, according to my mom quote, 906 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 2: I would show up, but my sister in law knew 907 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't because I told her. She told my friend 908 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to be there, meaning my sister in 909 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 2: law also knew I wouldn't be there. I gave my 910 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 2: reasoning about COVID being bad at the moment, plus my 911 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 2: other ailments. None of those stipulations had changed from one 912 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 2: day to the other. My in laws were confused as 913 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 2: to why I was angry, like it was no big 914 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 2: deal that the person who you're literally having the baby 915 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 2: shower for isn't there as though they didn't treat me 916 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 2: like a surrogate before. Here's more evidence. I blocked all 917 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: of my in laws. I also blocked my mom and 918 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: my aunt and haven't spoken to them. So I wrote 919 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 2: an email to my sister in law explaining why, with 920 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 2: a long laundry list of things that were pretty similar 921 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 2: to this in the sense that they don't respect me, 922 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 2: my boundaries, my generosity, or my willingness to always go 923 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: above and beyond, and basically this is the amount of 924 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 2: respect I get. Yeah, that's clear. I feel like it's 925 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 2: not just this moment, it's all these other things that 926 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 2: have happened and led up to this moment that was 927 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 2: like the end of the fuse where yeah, I'm done 928 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 2: with you people. Yeah I don't need thank yous. I 929 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 2: just need you to respect me and consider my feelings. 930 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 2: But nope, it's just about what they want and they 931 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 2: wanted the party, so they partied without me. My brother, 932 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 2: who I still speak to, called me a week after 933 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 2: the event to update. 934 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: Me on his life. 935 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 2: He went to the party, but he didn't know where 936 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 2: he was going. My mom told him to jump in 937 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 2: the car and told him she was going to a party. 938 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 2: My brother didn't ask any questions, which is very typical 939 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 2: of him. As they were driving, she told him that 940 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 2: it was my baby shower, and he immediately was surprised. 941 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 2: He said that this wasn't for my sister because if 942 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 2: you knew her, you'd know she wouldn't want this. My 943 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 2: mom told him that I knew about it and nothing else. Yeah, 944 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 2: w brother, Yeah, there we go. So you know your 945 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: kid knows the sister so well. He's like, you're doing 946 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 2: what a thing? She definitely doesn't want. Yeah, she hates that. 947 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:22,760 Speaker 1: Hmm okay. 948 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 2: He decided to stay because he was moving out of 949 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 2: the country and this was his last time seeing all 950 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 2: of these people nice at least for a long while. 951 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 2: I still haven't seen him, so yeah, it's been a 952 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 2: long while. 953 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: He said. 954 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 2: They wanted to take video to send to me, and 955 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 2: every time they would pivot to him, he would ruin it, 956 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 2: according to them by saying this isn't for op. 957 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 958 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 2: Again, this fact only further proves that they were aware 959 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 2: and that they saw nothing wrong with what they were 960 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,320 Speaker 2: doing after I blocked them. I've gotten many passive aggressive 961 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 2: things done to me. For example, when my son was born. 962 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 2: My husband and kid and new baby all got gifts 963 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 2: from one sister in law congratulating them, not me, just them. Well, 964 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 2: which is that's targeted for sure. 965 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 966 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 2: Another sister in law delivered donuts and coffee for my 967 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 2: husband and toddler with a card saying for all your 968 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 2: hard work, as though they did anything. 969 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had to deal with you. 970 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, good job being born kid. I'm sure that was 971 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 2: you know what, low key? That probably is some hard work. 972 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 1: What being born? Oh yeah, dude, I was didn't get born. 973 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: What did you get What do you mean? Did you 974 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 1: get sea sectioned? No, I got sea sectioned. Oh okay, 975 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: that's just the old baby. Yeah that's too big. Head 976 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: was a big old baby. He said, No, we got 977 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: to cut this thing. Did you ten pounds two ounces? 978 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 1: Du dude? My brothers were like twin pounds, like twelve ounces? Yeah, 979 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 1: I think all three of them. I was young. I 980 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: was the littlest. I was eight pounds six ounces. And 981 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: that's the littlest that's the littlest. It's crazy. Yeah, but no, 982 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: I like had ambillical quarter on my neck. I wasn't 983 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: breathing for the first time, and it's apparently there's something 984 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 1: in my mouth and had to get it out. I'm 985 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: just gonna make it. You're ready to snack From the 986 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: first moment of existence. Yeah, people were like I was 987 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 1: born ready. I was like I was not. I was 988 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: born very confused. I was born about to die. 989 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 2: Uh. During the delivery, they constantly called to see if 990 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 2: the baby was born, but not to see how I 991 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 2: was so much so that my husband wasn't present with me, 992 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 2: and I can't help but think that it was on purpose. 993 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 2: After our baby was born, our doctor advised that no 994 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 2: one see the baby before at least three months, so 995 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 2: we complied. My husband would often FaceTime, and I would 996 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 2: constantly hear, oh, he has dimples like me, meaning my 997 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,720 Speaker 2: sister in law when I literally have two. Any feature 998 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 2: of mine that was very clearly mine, they would try 999 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 2: and attribute it to themselves or some long lost relative of. 1000 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: Theirs, very very weird, like this is my baby. Yeah. 1001 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 2: These people inexplicably, I guess the in laws and the 1002 00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 2: sister mom too. 1003 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: Is It's like they got it out for you. Soon 1004 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,400 Speaker 1: as the system blog, I was like, sign these papers 1005 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: and you're like, uh, these are adoption papers, Like yeah, 1006 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: this is my baby. Yeah, clearly, just look at it. 1007 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 2: It looks just like Anyways, when both my kids look 1008 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 2: exactly like me, that's a pretty weird thing to say. Literally, 1009 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 2: their hair color, texture, the dimples, the face, the smile. 1010 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 2: I've been told that we look like twins by others, 1011 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 2: but of course it's your uncle's kids kid. Sure. Now, 1012 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 2: anytime anyone asks me why I'm not around, I get 1013 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 2: the dirty looks and the comments, the really infuriating comments 1014 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,720 Speaker 2: of but they're your family are the worst. 1015 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: But I just grin and bear it. Anyway, that's my story. 1016 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 2: Am I the A hole? I don't think I am, 1017 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 2: especially given the context. But you can get all the 1018 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 2: context you need every week day at three pm when 1019 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 2: you join us live on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, and TikTok. 1020 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 2: All you gotta do is tap our profile and you're in. 1021 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 2: We might even be live right now, but before you 1022 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 2: check on that, we're gonna coalesce our thoughts here and 1023 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 2: finish this story. So I would say, with all the contact, 1024 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 2: not the A hole, but without all that, I would 1025 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 2: have thought it was pretty extreme to cut all those 1026 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 2: people off for having that the baby shower without you, 1027 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: especially saying after you said that you didn't really care 1028 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 2: to have one. So it's like it's kind of harmless 1029 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 2: at that point where it's like, well, if they just 1030 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 2: want to do that, I guess they're free to do it. Yeah, 1031 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 2: but it was also lame of them to invite your 1032 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 2: friends and not tell your friends that you weren't gonna 1033 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 2: be there, Yeah, because they just assumed you would pull through. 1034 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 2: And I think that goes back to the just lack 1035 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 2: of respect, Like they don't Yeah, they got no respect 1036 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 2: for you. So it makes perfect sense that you would 1037 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 2: cut those people off, Yeah, after everything else they had 1038 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 2: also done beforehand. 1039 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, So cut them off. Low contact, low contact. 1040 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 1: The brother's great, brother's great, you know, but he's gone now, 1041 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: so and people can you know, I don't know. 1042 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 2: It just seems so systemic through the whole family, Like 1043 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 2: all the in laws aren't they don't respect your autonomy, 1044 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 2: and like this is also a weird time. 1045 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,799 Speaker 1: It's COVID time, very weird time. 1046 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,439 Speaker 2: But like, just it does seem like there is quite 1047 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 2: a bit of like just a complete lack of respect 1048 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 2: for you as an individual who could make their own decisions. 1049 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 2: And the baby stuff. Not attributing the baby characteristics to 1050 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 2: you is weird. Not giving you a shout out on 1051 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 2: the thank you card is just weird. Yeah, so let's 1052 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 2: finish this story. Here's some questions before I ask, Oh boy, 1053 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 2: we got more bullet points. The baby shower was in 1054 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 2: a home, no venue to cancel or deposit to lose 1055 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 2: out on. Everything, to my knowledge was refundable and was 1056 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 2: theirs already. My in laws knew the rules as they 1057 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 2: were very on top of watching the news twenty four 1058 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 2: to seven. My mom and aunt also work in another hospital, 1059 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 2: and although it's not pat care, they had to be 1060 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,240 Speaker 2: constantly tested and followed the same procedures as the doctors, nurses, 1061 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 2: and medical staff. I didn't block anyone or go no 1062 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 2: contact solely because of this issue. It was merely the 1063 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,439 Speaker 2: straw that broke the camel's back. God, I love having 1064 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 2: mind melds with OP. I love thinking the same thing 1065 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 2: as OP. It's just like a light switch went off 1066 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 2: and I realized the relationships no longer serve me, if 1067 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 2: they ever even did in the first place. I've been 1068 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 2: in therapy for about five years, twice a week to 1069 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 2: get over my crappy childhood. 1070 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: And that is the end of that story. Oh, he's 1071 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: doing a lot of work, this hard work. Op, that's good. 1072 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 1: You realize your family's taking advantage of you and not 1073 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: even giving you props for all the hard work of 1074 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 1: doing it. Some of that the therapy might have helped you. 1075 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 2: Come to this realization of like, oh, wow, no, this 1076 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 2: this is just not certainly whatsoever. Wow, my family sucks, 1077 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 2: And I'm very glad that you've realized that and are 1078 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 2: moving forward without them in heavy contact with your family. 1079 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 1: That's great. That's the end of that story. He's the 1080 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 1: end of that story. My husband cheated on me, so 1081 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: I left him. We got back together, but I'm still 1082 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: in love with somebody else whoa a lot going on there. 1083 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 1: My twenty three female husband twenty four Mal and I 1084 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: have been married for three years. We will call my 1085 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: husband Ben for this story. At the time Ben and 1086 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: I had first met, he was on temporary military duty 1087 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,800 Speaker 1: in my hometown. I was working part time, trying to 1088 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: make it through college. It felt like a whirlwind romance 1089 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,879 Speaker 1: being with him in the few weeks he was here, 1090 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: but he quickly went back to his primary duty station 1091 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: active duty. Nonetheless, he wanted to make it work, so 1092 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,839 Speaker 1: we decided to date through long distance. Shortly after meeting him. 1093 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: I also decided to join the military active duty and 1094 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 1: landed in a technical training for over six months in 1095 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:57,919 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. 1096 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 3: That's hard long distance military military long dicisce y, That's hard. 1097 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,040 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Character Maine eighty seven 1098 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: twelve on the r slash Okay story Times Up read it. 1099 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,760 Speaker 1: So when it came time to put my dream sheet 1100 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,720 Speaker 1: of duty stations together almost a year later, I decided 1101 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: to put my number one, as Ben's current duty station 1102 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,360 Speaker 1: said they could be together. I was lucky to get it, 1103 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 1: but as I finished technical training for my military job, 1104 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 1: I found out he cheated on me. 1105 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 3: Oh, gonna be in the Aria. 1106 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,240 Speaker 1: This ended up being three weeks before I was supposed 1107 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: to move there. Oh. I had a good feeling, but 1108 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: I was crushed. Ben and I had been dating on 1109 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,399 Speaker 1: and off for the last year and a half. At 1110 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: that point in twenty twenty one, I felt like I 1111 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 1: had wasted my time and now I was headed directly 1112 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,720 Speaker 1: to where he was stationed. Truthfully, it was my worst 1113 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 1: nightmare and I hadn't gone to gotten to the best part. 1114 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: With this new information, I had already scheduled leave for 1115 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: this to go back home for a couple of weeks. 1116 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 1: I ended up meeting a guy who will call Jake 1117 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: twenty six mel since I wasn't dating Ben anymore. 1118 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,319 Speaker 3: Okay, so they he cheated on her, she breaks out 1119 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 3: with them, and then she goes back home for a 1120 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 3: little bit. Yep, and Jake comes into Jake is in 1121 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 3: the picture. Now, Jake's in the picture. 1122 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,279 Speaker 1: This guy was funny, sweet, attentive. We had quite a 1123 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 1: bit in common when it came to everything else. It 1124 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,439 Speaker 1: wasn't just our lust or chemistry with him. It felt 1125 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: natural for me. I practically spent my entire two weeks 1126 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: with him, even though I was just sat down on 1127 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: the road from my family. At this point, Ben and 1128 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: I hadn't been back together for a few weeks, and 1129 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think about him at all. He was completely 1130 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,760 Speaker 1: off my mind. Although I wasn't staying in the area, 1131 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: Jake wanted to keep talking to me. Funnily enough, he 1132 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: was also on active duty in the same branch as 1133 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,960 Speaker 1: Been and me, So I left at the end of 1134 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: my leave and we continued. So she's back with She's 1135 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: back with Ben or no, she's back with Jake. She's 1136 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 1: kind it seems like she's like maybe with Jake. A 1137 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: little bit after I arrived at Ben's duty station, Jake 1138 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,399 Speaker 1: and I were facetiming every night. He ended up going 1139 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: to a deployment in New Jersey not long after, so 1140 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: I took the time I could with him. He actually 1141 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: talked to a few of his friends about me and 1142 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: suggested dating. He had told me people get married all 1143 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: the time in the military after doing long distance, so 1144 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: we could make it work and it was sweet, But 1145 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: with Ben being in the same town, I decided to 1146 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: cut things off. I wasn't feeling resolved about my relationship 1147 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: with Ben or my feelings towards him. Jake had been 1148 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 1: had been cheated on before, and after just being cheated 1149 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: on myself, I decided to be brutally honest with him 1150 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,560 Speaker 1: about how I felt. Jake and I had officially cut 1151 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: contact at that point, and he respected my boundary. 1152 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 3: So Jake and op have cut contact, Yes, yeah, so okay, 1153 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 3: So what it seems like Opie and Jake started seeing 1154 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 3: each other. He left, and then she was already going 1155 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 3: to be stationed at Ben Ben's place, and then she 1156 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 3: He's like, Okay, well, I'm gonna be kind of around him. 1157 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 3: That's a little complicated. I don't really want to have 1158 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 3: to think about another relationship while I'm still addressing my 1159 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 3: feelings about this, Okay, which is fair. I think that 1160 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 3: you know, if you're not ready to be in another relationship, 1161 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 3: if you're still like dealing with the feelings for the 1162 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 3: last one, don't move on. 1163 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Truthfully, I had deep feelings for Jake, but 1164 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: I didn't want to risk hurting him either. In almost 1165 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 1: the same week, I ultimately ended up finding out Ben 1166 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: cheated on me with our friend's sister, Sarah, and I 1167 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: didn't know at the time, but in short, he cheated 1168 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: on me with this girl. I broke it off, he 1169 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: started dating her, and then she did on her with me. 1170 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 2: No, Ben sucks, then keep it in your pants. 1171 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 3: Oh my god, go back and find Jake. Go get Jake. 1172 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 3: Oh pee, go get Jake. 1173 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: Apologizing and say, go get him. 1174 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 3: Drop Ben, get Jake. 1175 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: Oh say the lace. Neither of us knew, but she 1176 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 1: never found out. I also discovered there were a few 1177 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: other times he cheated on me before this, so this 1178 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,320 Speaker 1: unfortunately didn't end up being the first time. Regardless, I 1179 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 1: felt guilty. I didn't know they were dating at all. 1180 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: I figured she was just a fling. What's crazier is 1181 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: that after he cut ties with Sarah, I found out 1182 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: I was pregnant. A couple of months later, she's pregnant. Now. 1183 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: This happened at the same time he got military orders 1184 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 1: to a new duty station. 1185 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 3: Oh this is so tough. Oh my god. So he's 1186 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 3: leaving again to a different place. This is a ye yay. 1187 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: From there, we had a quick wedding so we could 1188 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: get joint military spousal Yeah, they together, and we would 1189 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,360 Speaker 1: have been together ever since. But I do love Ben, 1190 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: and I'm trying every day to make it work. But 1191 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: that's not to say I am getting over this whole 1192 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: situation didn't take time or was easy. At the moment. 1193 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I'm in love with him anymore. Our 1194 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: relationship has been dragging since the start of the second 1195 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: year of our marriage, and I feel like we've had 1196 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 1: nothing more or in common. On the other hand, I've honestly, look, 1197 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: I feel like been still cheating on her. 1198 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm really worried about that because we know that Ben 1199 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 3: cheated on her and then cheated on the girl that 1200 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 3: he cheated on her reth with Art, So it's like 1201 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 3: a whole circle of cheating. There's so much and she's 1202 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,560 Speaker 3: not in love with him anymore. So I really feel 1203 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 3: like this relationship is not I mean, it's not good 1204 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 3: for you to continue if you're not Obviously a kid 1205 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 3: makes it complicated, but if you're not in love with 1206 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 3: you him, you're not happy. 1207 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Because, like I feel like in a relationship, once you 1208 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: get married, you do have those you might have those 1209 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 1: points where like I don't feel like I love this person. 1210 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,120 Speaker 3: I think you can talk to him about it. 1211 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: You have to work through them. And I don't think 1212 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: you can work through this because he's moved on and 1213 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 1: like cheating on you left and right. 1214 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think it's either you can try and 1215 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,000 Speaker 3: go to therapy and have that conversation with him, But otherwise, 1216 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 3: is it, you know, is it worth it to be 1217 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 3: in this relationship with him when he's like you know, 1218 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,439 Speaker 3: cheating is cheated a lot on multiple people. And yeah, 1219 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,560 Speaker 3: Jake seems seems looks looking pretty good. 1220 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,959 Speaker 1: Jake's looking like a great options. On the other hand, 1221 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: all I have is continuously think about Jake over the 1222 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: last few years. I'm sure he's forgotten about me, as 1223 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I was probably just the blip in his life. And 1224 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: I assume he's probably been over me for a while, 1225 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 1: but don't get over us because we go live every 1226 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 1: weekday at three pm PSD just to have her profile 1227 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,919 Speaker 1: for me. Though I can't get him out of my mind. 1228 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,960 Speaker 1: It's been like a broken record that keeps replaying all 1229 01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,560 Speaker 1: the time. I'm married Ben and we share a child, 1230 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,840 Speaker 1: so I stay to try to make it work. He 1231 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 1: hasn't cheated on me since Sarah, and our relationship has 1232 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: been pleasant. 1233 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 3: Otherwise, Okay, you don't want it to be pleasant. Pleasant 1234 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 3: is just like man, it's fine, it's good. I guess 1235 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 3: you wanted to be like great. 1236 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: You wanted to be awesome. You would be not perfect, 1237 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 1: but yeah. 1238 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 3: But like exciting and brings you joy. 1239 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now. Through twenty twenty four, Ben and I moved 1240 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 1: back to our hometown to be close to a two family, 1241 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: and I found out Jake is still stationed here, but 1242 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 1: ended up landing a decent drop at his current duty station, 1243 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 1: working in the same occupation. It wasn't deliberated, but I 1244 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 1: was about to fall flat on my face from military 1245 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,160 Speaker 1: contract that had ended and no other job offer paid 1246 01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: as much as this position. While I have no intention 1247 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: of reaching out to Jake for respect for my marriage 1248 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: and commitments to Ben's starting to gnaw at me. I've 1249 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 1: been telling myself since twenty twenty one that this would 1250 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 1: go away as these feelings I still have for Jake 1251 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: or temporary. But here we are years later. I guess 1252 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm still looking for options on this mess. How could 1253 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 1: I handle still being in love with a man I 1254 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: met three years ago after my husband then boyfriend cheated 1255 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,720 Speaker 1: on me And I don't know how to get rid 1256 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 1: of these feelings and have been shameful slash guilty about it. 1257 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 1: Thanks in advance for any advice. 1258 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my advice is to end this relationship. Yeah, 1259 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 3: it's stagnant. 1260 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: It's stagnant. It's prob you guys have a lot of 1261 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 1: stuff to work through. If it seems like you were 1262 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: putting a lot of work in right now, yeah, and 1263 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: Ben is not. 1264 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 3: But also I think that it's still good like just 1265 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 3: because you you know, you put in all this work 1266 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 3: and you you know, work together to try and get 1267 01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:14,120 Speaker 3: over the cheating and stuff. That's still good in terms 1268 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 3: of co parenting because it means that you're not gonna 1269 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,479 Speaker 3: like scream in each other as long as you're still 1270 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 3: like friendly. That's still a positive for the future, but 1271 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that you have to stay with him. 1272 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1273 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 3: Also, I don't even think if you if you do 1274 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 3: end up leaving, don't You don't have to go with Jake, 1275 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 3: but you can find It just means that you can 1276 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 3: find someone out there who's gonna be a better fit 1277 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 3: for you. 1278 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, mmmm, that's tough. 1279 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 3: But that is the end of that story. But thank 1280 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 3: you for watching. My girlfriend prioritizes her late boyfriend's family 1281 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 3: over me, I'm leaving her. 1282 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: Dang, this is like the completely opposite of what we 1283 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: just read. 1284 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 3: My girlfriend's last boyfriend died in a car crash some 1285 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 3: years ago. My girlfriend told me about this when we 1286 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 3: became official. Now, she's still close to her dead boyfriend's 1287 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 3: mom and dad, and she wants to introduce me to them. 1288 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 3: Could not, could go, could go a little bit awry. Yeah, 1289 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 3: I thought it would be awkward, but I decided to 1290 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 3: go along with it. After all, she mentioned that she 1291 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 3: considers them just like her own parents. By the way, 1292 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 3: this comes from Throwaway HDA DJ sixty five eighty two 1293 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 3: on the Best Predator Updates subburd It. We've visited them 1294 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,560 Speaker 3: a few times and the dad made comments. One time, 1295 01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 3: the dad talks about how manly his son was, how 1296 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 3: he used to work on cars. You could always tell 1297 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,480 Speaker 3: he was a real man because his hands were always dirty. 1298 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 3: Wash your hands. 1299 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: I worked eighteen half and hours on a roof today. 1300 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,720 Speaker 1: Day I worked forty eight hours in the minds, and 1301 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 1: you're over here talking on a politic case. This is 1302 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: real man's work. 1303 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 3: Is real life? 1304 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 1: Is that a real life cover? Kind of? Kind of? 1305 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,480 Speaker 3: He asked me what I did for work, and I 1306 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 3: work it as an accountant. He said, yeah, I can 1307 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 3: tell it was something like that. Your hands haven't seen 1308 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 3: any real work. 1309 01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because all my hands see are green from 1310 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 1: all the money that I'm working with. 1311 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 3: It's been like this every time we visit them. He 1312 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 3: mentions how great his son is. That something and asks 1313 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 3: me something, then says how unmadly I am. I would 1314 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 3: talk to my fiance or wife. 1315 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, girlfriend, boyfriend, Oh, that would be so funny. If 1316 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: it was a boyfriend, I would talk. 1317 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 3: To You're not madly enough. I would talk to the 1318 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 3: girlfriend and be like, hey, your late husband's family. Its 1319 01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 3: kind of being really mean to me. Oh, it's comparison. 1320 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 3: Comparison that's the thief of joy. But I told my 1321 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 3: girlfriend about it, but she says I'm just being insecure. 1322 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 3: That's a red flag on her part and I shouldn't 1323 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 3: feel threatened by it. I told her I don't want 1324 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 3: to visit them anymore, and we got into a pretty 1325 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 3: big fight. She said that that maybe the dad is 1326 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 3: right and I need to be more manly. 1327 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: But I think you should leave this AKA up. 1328 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, definitely break up. This is the fact that 1329 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 3: not only is she allowing the dad to say this, 1330 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 3: but it's also kind of reinforcing it or like agreeing 1331 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 3: with it. Op's comment Commoner says, I know you must 1332 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,439 Speaker 3: miss your son a lot. He sounds like a great guy, 1333 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 3: but please stop insulting me using him. Neither you or 1334 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,720 Speaker 3: my girlfriend will remember him any less with me here, 1335 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 3: and Op says, I can already hear him say that's 1336 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 3: some crap. He doesn't seem like a sensible guy. Update. 1337 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 3: I broke up with her. 1338 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, quick, quick and easy. B r E 1339 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 2: k you. 1340 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 1: B r E A ak u p. 1341 01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 3: B r e A K up. You should break up 1342 01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,240 Speaker 3: with hur Op who. 1343 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 1: Was a girlfriend? Wow? 1344 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 3: Update I broke up about after talking to some friends 1345 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:03,600 Speaker 3: and reading some of your comments, I realized that this 1346 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 3: kind of behavior from both the dad and my girlfriend 1347 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 3: was unacceptable. I didn't say anything to the dad because 1348 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 3: who cares why I am since I haven't had a 1349 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 3: chance to see him since the last time. Anyways, I 1350 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,120 Speaker 3: think I gave them slack due to the tragedy of 1351 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,720 Speaker 3: what happened. But I think I gave them way too much. 1352 01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 3: As harsh as as sounds, I am so relieved I 1353 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 3: won't ever have to hear about her dead boyfriend ever again. 1354 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,800 Speaker 3: I feel great tbh, and you guys can feel great 1355 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 3: too by joining us live every weekday at three pm PST. 1356 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 3: Just tab her profile relevan comments. Commenter says, good job 1357 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 3: they were taking out their grief and sorrow onto you, 1358 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 3: trashing you as compared to her ex. No one should 1359 01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,680 Speaker 3: willingly put themselves through that. What was her reaction? Did 1360 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 3: you cite the comments about her ex as the main reason? 1361 01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:51,440 Speaker 3: Op says I did. I told her I was tired 1362 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 3: of her father in law quote unquote talking to me 1363 01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 3: that way and her taking his side. She didn't apologize 1364 01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 3: or anything. She said I was overreacting, and we talk 1365 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 3: about this. I told her I had already tried. She 1366 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 3: told me that I should just leave then, and I did. Ope, claifyes. 1367 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 3: I'll be honest, I don't feel bad. As soon as 1368 01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 3: I got home after breaking up, I realized that I 1369 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 3: won't ever have to deal with father in law. But 1370 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 3: not only that, I don't have to ever see the 1371 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 3: dead boyfriend's face or even hear his name ever again. 1372 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,680 Speaker 3: It may be harsh, but I'm not agonizing over it 1373 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 3: or anything. If anything, I'm relieved. 1374 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 1: I will say having a family going. I know this 1375 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 1: is a late boyfriend, but being around a family that 1376 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,760 Speaker 1: your significant other likes is game changing. I used to 1377 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,600 Speaker 1: be around a family that they didn't like me do 1378 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 1: my self esteem, but now. 1379 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 3: I need my boyfriend's family to like me. 1380 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 1: So he's been around them, I've met his mom. Got 1381 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,759 Speaker 1: to go well, okay, one left. 1382 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 3: I mean I got it. I got a chocolate from Paris. 1383 01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,400 Speaker 3: She loved it. She said, thank you. 1384 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Look at that smile, dude. Every time she 1385 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,719 Speaker 1: talks about the boyfriend, she gets smiley like this and everything. 1386 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. My boyfriend put his best friend before me. 1387 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: Is our relationship over? 1388 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,560 Speaker 3: It depends depends, It depends on the best friend and 1389 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 3: your relationship who I don't know, well. 1390 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 1: Find I don't know. I twenty female, am from Brazil 1391 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 1: and here it is a tradition that in a birthday party, 1392 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 1: the person whose birthday is being celebrated is the first 1393 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 1: slice of their cake their favorite person after everyone sings 1394 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 1: the birthday song. I've seen this on social media. It 1395 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,559 Speaker 1: is so cute. By the way, this comes from sorry 1396 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: header on the r slash storytime on the Okay storytime subreddit. 1397 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 1: Go check it out. Put your stories there. I know 1398 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 1: I butchered that username. This week was my boyfriend's twenty 1399 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: four mal and he had three celebration my boy friends 1400 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 1: birthday Yeah, one with his birth family, one with his 1401 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 1: adopted family, and one with friends which was a s 1402 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 1: ice picnic that I planned and organized. Cute. He had 1403 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 1: a very difficult life and his moms are really important 1404 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 1: to him, as the adoptive mom saved him from starving 1405 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: as a kid and raised him on my giving him 1406 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 1: a chance at live. And this birth mom battled very 1407 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,600 Speaker 1: hard against poverty at her life, struggling and fighting to 1408 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 1: keep her kids alive and well. So, of course I 1409 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: never expect him to give me the first slice of 1410 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 1: cake at the family celebrations. I see you, I see you. 1411 01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 3: So she's like, probably gotta give it to his birth mom. Yeah, 1412 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 3: like that makes sense. 1413 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:43,440 Speaker 1: But then there was the picnic. I spent weeks planning 1414 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 1: and reaching out to all his childhood friends, making sure 1415 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: they would come. I went to bed at two am 1416 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 1: the night before making him his favorite cake. I spent 1417 01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 1: a shiz ton of money with food, drinks, and gifts. 1418 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 1: I did not do it because of the first slice, 1419 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 1: of course, but all times I couldn't help. But the thing, 1420 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 1: now it's my turn. 1421 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so it bes like I didn't. I planned this 1422 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 3: whole thing for his birthday, but I didn't do it 1423 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 3: just to get that first flight, the first slice that 1424 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 3: says I'm the favorite. But is waiting to get that slice. 1425 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 3: She's like, I want to be the first lie. I 1426 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 3: want to be someone's first plaice. 1427 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,040 Speaker 1: Oh, that'd be so cute. Turns out it was not. 1428 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 1: He has a best friend of many years and she 1429 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 1: and him are like brother and sister. They went through 1430 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 1: a lot of crap together, like her losing her mom, 1431 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 1: him not having food to eat at home as a teen, 1432 01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: and even though they are close, they don't get the 1433 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,680 Speaker 1: chance to see each other very often as of now. 1434 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 1: They both are very busy with life and all this shit. 1435 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 1: So of course he took the chance to show her 1436 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,240 Speaker 1: some appreciation. She was so happy, And of course I 1437 01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:51,679 Speaker 1: understood this situation. He sees me every day and has 1438 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 1: the chance to honor me almost daily, and he always 1439 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: makes me feel really loved and on and he can't 1440 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,599 Speaker 1: do that with her. Also, I understand, and he wanted 1441 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,320 Speaker 1: to show her that him having a relationship does not 1442 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,160 Speaker 1: mean she is not his sister anymore a priority in 1443 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,439 Speaker 1: that sense. I'm not jealous because I know there is 1444 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,479 Speaker 1: nothing romantic between them. She's pretty gay, and she's pretty gay. 1445 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:19,680 Speaker 1: She's pretty gay and polyannamorous, polygamous polygamus, and he is 1446 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 1: most nomous monogamous man in the world, and he worships. 1447 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,759 Speaker 3: Me, worships I just let it upside. 1448 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 1: Oh okay, she said, right, like what worship? Just go 1449 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 1: ahead and read the roost. I couldn't help, but at 1450 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,479 Speaker 1: least feel a bit. I don't know, just do I 1451 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,160 Speaker 1: need to explain? Maybe disappointed, maybe unappreciated. I feel like 1452 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I can never be the most important person in the room. 1453 01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 1: We always talk about getting married. We are each other's 1454 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 1: life and still get me. Also, he did this in 1455 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 1: front of everyone, in front of all our mutual friends 1456 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 1: who really don't know her and all she means to him. 1457 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 1: So I guess I felt kind of embarrassed. Am I 1458 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,280 Speaker 1: just viencing? I want to go home and cry a bit. 1459 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,960 Speaker 1: I know I'm being childish, but I guess I will 1460 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,960 Speaker 1: keep it that way for now. We have an update 1461 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 1: six hours later. 1462 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 3: Okay, let's put a poll up. Well, OPI hasn't done anything, 1463 01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:18,320 Speaker 3: OPI has not done anything. I think this is I 1464 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:20,240 Speaker 3: think sometimes I mean like, as long as she doesn't 1465 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,839 Speaker 3: take it out on her, I don't think her boyfriend 1466 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 3: has done anything wrong. And you know, because especially because 1467 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 3: we know why he gave the slice to the friend 1468 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 3: and was trying to show some appreciation for all that 1469 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 3: hard stuff they went through, which OP recognizes. I think 1470 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 3: sometimes we get jealous. And as long as she's not 1471 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 3: taking this out on her boyfriend, I don't think she's 1472 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 3: done anything wrong. 1473 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,320 Speaker 1: Right now, miss jay Bird, he already shows you who 1474 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:45,680 Speaker 1: cares who gets a niece of cake? 1475 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think right now is what she needs to hear, 1476 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,600 Speaker 3: is that. Yeah, this is like it's totally. You know, 1477 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 3: it's normal to feel little bit jealous sometimes as long 1478 01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 3: as you're not taking it out on other people and 1479 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,439 Speaker 3: you're realizing that he loves you. And but sometimes we 1480 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 3: have those thoughts in our head that are like unreasonable, 1481 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,320 Speaker 3: and we know they're unreasonable, and we just kind of 1482 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 3: have to we have to shut them up. Yeah, so 1483 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 3: I don't think she's the a hole yet. 1484 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of like those bad thoughts 1485 01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:09,920 Speaker 1: are coming up. 1486 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sometimes you have those interested thoughts that are like, ah, 1487 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 3: why didn't he pick you? It's like, okay, well we 1488 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,439 Speaker 3: know why, but sometimes it's hard to tell her, you know. Yeah, 1489 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:20,560 Speaker 3: convince ourselves with that. 1490 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 1: September eighth, six hours later, Hi everyone, thank you for 1491 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,600 Speaker 1: all the kind of comments. Me and my boyfriend have 1492 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 1: different energy spams, so I usually leave hangouts a lot 1493 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,040 Speaker 1: earlier than him. Are you laughing at me or opie? OPI? 1494 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,719 Speaker 3: Okay, good, Yeah, I read the energy spams. 1495 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,560 Speaker 1: I read that, yeah, which is what happened today. So 1496 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,639 Speaker 1: I love posted the story and read it and took 1497 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 1: a shower and started to paint my nose. About three 1498 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,040 Speaker 1: hours later, after I left, my boyfriend calls me and 1499 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 1: I pick up and he is sobbing. Notice he does 1500 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,759 Speaker 1: not have read it and he does not speak English, 1501 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 1: so he did not know about the posts, and I 1502 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,439 Speaker 1: had not talked about my feelings with him yet. So 1503 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,599 Speaker 1: he calls me absolutely pooring saying he was going home 1504 01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 1: and he he has had the best day of his 1505 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,280 Speaker 1: life and he loves me so much for doing this 1506 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 1: for him. And he spends the next fifteen minutes talking 1507 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,200 Speaker 1: between sobs about all the effort I put into the 1508 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 1: birthday celebration and thanking me for every single one of 1509 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:12,920 Speaker 1: those things I did. 1510 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 3: Oh, they're so sweet. 1511 01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 1: You mentioned the cake slice and said that. He said 1512 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 1: to me that throughout his entire life, because he has 1513 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,840 Speaker 1: had birthdays in his mom's house, he had never given 1514 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 1: a first slice to his best friend who went through 1515 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 1: all that with him, and that me being empathetic enough 1516 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 1: not to let him do this was honestly one of 1517 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,920 Speaker 1: the most special things I had ever done for him. 1518 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,320 Speaker 3: This is so sweet. I'm glad that Ophe didn't say 1519 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,280 Speaker 3: anything me too. 1520 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 1: He told me she had begun going through some very 1521 01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:45,360 Speaker 1: important stuff and he was not around ever because of 1522 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 1: work in college, and she was feeling very left behind 1523 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 1: because of this. Which is a huge thing since they're 1524 01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 1: basically brother and sister. So the cake made her cry 1525 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,439 Speaker 1: so much. It was the first time he had ever 1526 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,240 Speaker 1: done this, and she finally felt like he had not 1527 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 1: forgotten about her. Oh that's super set. 1528 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,559 Speaker 3: This is so sweet. This is really sweet. 1529 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 1: Is this a nice one you picked home? Yeah? Okay, 1530 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't too sure. Oh this is so weird, really sweet. 1531 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 1: And then because I made that much effort for him, 1532 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 1: he asked me to rest. He told me that his 1533 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 1: next week was going to be entirely for him show 1534 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 1: me appreciation. He asked me to go please for once, 1535 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,599 Speaker 1: not to sav jarge him showing me love and pampering 1536 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 1: me because I feel like I don't deserve it. Because 1537 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 1: he was going to take his savings to take me 1538 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:39,800 Speaker 1: out and spend the week giving me celebrations. Oh my gosh, 1539 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,920 Speaker 1: I know him well enough to be to accept some 1540 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,840 Speaker 1: love notes him showing up to surprise me at my place, 1541 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 1: maybe even a song written for me. He also invited 1542 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,560 Speaker 1: me to spend the weekend at his place, just the 1543 01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 1: two of us. He lives with his family and they 1544 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 1: all are going to the beach, leaving the house empty 1545 01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 1: so he can cook me dinner and give me one 1546 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 1: of his one hour full body massages. They are my favorites. 1547 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 3: What an incredibly green flag that this man, preemptively without 1548 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,479 Speaker 3: even her talking to him, knew that this might be 1549 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,680 Speaker 3: like something that she would care about, like oh, p 1550 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 3: caring about who gets that first slice, and was like, 1551 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:18,880 Speaker 3: you know what, I just want to let you know, 1552 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,519 Speaker 3: I really appreciate that you were totally okay with you know, 1553 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,639 Speaker 3: or let me give that piece to my best friend 1554 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,560 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna spend the week after my birthday about you. 1555 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 1: That's so sweet, Oh my goodness. Then after he said 1556 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 1: all that, I took the opportunity to tell him how 1557 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 1: I felt today. He listened quietly, and when I was finished, 1558 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 1: he apologized, saying that he did not realize that was 1559 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,439 Speaker 1: how I felt and that was not his intention, and 1560 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 1: he just thought that it did not mean as much 1561 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 1: to me as it would omit for his best friend. 1562 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:52,800 Speaker 3: This is I love it communication communication, hundred percent. Weedy 1563 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,760 Speaker 3: baby little man. 1564 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 1: So he decided to honor her and that way then 1565 01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,720 Speaker 1: honor me differently with my princess week. But he told 1566 01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 1: me he understood how I feel and that he was 1567 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: sorry anyways. But We talked a bit more after, but 1568 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,720 Speaker 1: we got over the stuff pretty quickly and it all 1569 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 1: ended with us gossiping about the day because gossip. Two 1570 01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,719 Speaker 1: of our friends of ours, who don't really get along 1571 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,840 Speaker 1: very well, apparently went back home after half drunk after 1572 01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 1: and I left m man. I love gossip. Well, if 1573 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 1: you love gossip, you should join us every weekday on 1574 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,679 Speaker 1: YouTube at three PMPSD. Just tap our profile. 1575 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:27,080 Speaker 3: That was great. 1576 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 1: That was a really given thank you, that worked really 1577 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,960 Speaker 1: hard at that has felt it, just felt it, just 1578 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,240 Speaker 1: had it. This is adorable. Thank you, Sophia. I know. 1579 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,559 Speaker 1: Oh we saw have more well friends. I suppose that's 1580 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 1: my update. Maybe this is the day Reddit realizes that 1581 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:43,880 Speaker 1: emotions are too complicated. Life is too which is why 1582 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,799 Speaker 1: small moments do not define a relationship or someone's feelings. 1583 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:51,000 Speaker 1: How we react to the situation and deal with it does. 1584 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 1: I love my boyfriend and he loves me a lot too, 1585 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 1: and that does not mean he does not have any 1586 01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,640 Speaker 1: fond family beyond me. That also does not I am 1587 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,920 Speaker 1: not allowed to feel sad. I have the right to 1588 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,679 Speaker 1: feel the way that I felt, and to be welcome 1589 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 1: in that feeling being validated. I will marry this man 1590 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:13,880 Speaker 1: mark my words. That is very sweet. That is so 1591 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 1: super sweet. Green flags. All I see is green in 1592 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 1: the chaplets. Put some greens. 1593 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,320 Speaker 3: Put them in the everyone gets the. 1594 01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 1: Good story. Thank you, Sophie. I was gonna have to 1595 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 1: like be sad for them.