1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in another edition of 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast. It's Thursday, guys, It's October 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: twenty eighth, and it is as always the year or 4 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: Lord twenty twenty one. Mail bag, mail bag, mail bag. 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: And even though I tell you, hey, Tuesdays and Thursdays 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: are full Q and a mail bag Late Kick Extra, 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: you get the energy. I was listening to the Tuesday Pod, 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: we didn't have near enough mail bag in our mail bag. 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: So this morning, my vow to you, We're gonna get 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: as many questions packed into this thing as we possibly can. 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: The way you can submit questions at Late Kick Josh 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: on Twitter, at late Kickjosh on Instagram. Braves lost last night. 13 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm in a salty mood that usually makes for the 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: best content possible, but on the brighter side, as it 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: pours down rain outside my apartment in Nashville this morning, 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: we do have a big weekend coming up, so I 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: don't want to waste any more time. My goal was 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: by a minute in. I'm getting into the first question 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: and we're at fifty four seconds right now, so a 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: lot of you have been asking a question. I am 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: going to let Michael speak for most of you. If 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: you've been following the happenings in Pennsylvania, then this is 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: not a new concept. But yet it is a question 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: that still lingers. Michael says, is James Franklin going to 25 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: be the Penn State coach next year? If you had 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: to guess right now, Michael, my guess is yes. My 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: immediate reaction, yes, I think he's going to be the 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: Penn State coach. I'm not putting at one hundred percent, 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: not even at ninety percent, but yes, I do think 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: he'll be there. Now. What Michael's talking about, obviously, is 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: this back and forth that James Franklin has had with 32 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: the media there in Happy Valley recently because of job 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: opening rumors that always circulate around his name. One of them, 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: you is USC obviously, one of them is LSU. You 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: also heard the news that he switched up his agents 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: to Jimmy Sexton. Jimmy Sexton is about as well known 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: as Colonel Sanders in the South. He's an institution. He 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: represents all the big time clients down here. You go 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: down the list of filling the blank is he a 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: head coach in the SEC? If the answer is yes, 41 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: then the other blank is yes, he is probably a 42 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy Sexton client, so people have naturally put two and 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: two together there. It did surface after that news initially 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: broke that he made that move over the summer. I 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: think James Franklin himself confirmed that doesn't mean he didn't 46 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: make the change. It just didn't happen last week as 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: it initially appeared. So you got that, you got the 48 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: job openings, you got his name always linked, he's changed 49 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: his agent. And then came two days ago or yesterday, 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: depending on when you're listening to this. And it was 51 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: James Franklin talking to the media there, and I'm just 52 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: going to read you the quote and then I'll discuss it. 53 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: He said, I'm fiercely loyal to Penn State. I'm fiercely 54 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: loyal to these players and to the staff. But there 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: are a lot of moving parts. Now that's probably the 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: quote you saw at there. It does deserve a little 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: bit more context, and sometimes you have to be able 58 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: to interpret the unspoken context. The unspoken context here is 59 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: he is not talking to me at least, he is 60 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: not talking about other jobs on the table as Meltzig. 61 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: He's talking about getting what he needs to succeed at 62 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: Penn State. You may look at it and you may say, 63 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: I watch Penn State games on football. They got a 64 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: massive stadium, they look like they have good players. He 65 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: should be set there. Well, it's a little more complicated 66 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: than that. Okay, even I sound like James Franklin now 67 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: when I start to discuss it. There are things you 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: never see. Things you will never ever see unless you're 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: an actual administrator, coach, unless you're actually on the inside. 70 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: Some of it we don't even get to see. But 71 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: I do get to see a little bit more of 72 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: it than the normal person does. There are aspects of 73 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: a program that you'll never even know about. For example, 74 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: if I were to go to Penn State right now, 75 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: and then I were to go to an Alabama game 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: the next week, when I was around Bama, I would 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: see a lot more random people whose names I don't know. 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: We're in a polo with a Crimson script a on 79 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: it and khakis and they just look they look like assistants. Well, 80 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: what they are is analysts. There's an army of them, 81 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: and they're all there with a specific task, and they're 82 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: all there to supplement and support whatever their tier leader is. Eventually, 83 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: you're going to be reporting to a position coach or 84 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: a coordinator, but they have an army of analysts. Now, 85 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you this is specifically what James Franklin's 86 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: talking about. I'm telling you, in the overarching grand scheme 87 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: of things, this is what he's talking about. He's talking 88 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: about program infrastructure. He's talking about everything from adequate facilities 89 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: to the ability to fulfill a bigger salary pool for assistance, 90 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: to be able to have a bigger army of off 91 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: field analysts. You would be amazed at how the operation 92 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: works at these major institutions at Georgia, at Alabama, at LSU, 93 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: at Ohio State. You would be shocked at how thorough 94 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: it is, but also how intricate it is. And you 95 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: would be amazed at how some of these programs spend 96 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: the hundreds of millions of dollars that it takes really 97 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: to have just the baseline kind of facilities they have, 98 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: and it feels like they've gone eight tenths of the 99 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: way or nine tenths of the way. But then they'll 100 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: drag their feet on what comparatively seem like not issues. 101 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: You're telling me, we built the house, and now we're 102 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: going to haggle over whether I can install the window 103 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: frames that I want or not. So that's what James 104 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: Franklin's telling you. To be real, I'm not on the 105 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: ground there at Penn State. I've spoken to some people 106 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: that are a lot closer to that than I am, 107 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: and they spell it out. It's the basic stuff we're 108 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: talking about here. It's just the ability to have every 109 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: box checked that you think you need checked to compete 110 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,119 Speaker 1: at the highest level. And it's no coincidence he's playing 111 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: Ohio State this week, and it's no coincidence that that 112 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: is the program in the Big ten out of all 113 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: of them that checks most of those boxes, if not 114 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: all of those boxes for their head coach. And James Franklin, 115 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: if he were to have utter truth serum injected into 116 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: him right now and he were talking to you, he'd say, 117 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: I just want what they have. I don't want to 118 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: leave here. I'm not looking to leave here. I mean, 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: I like it at Penn State, love it at Penn State. 120 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: I believe him, by the way, when he says I'm 121 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: loyal to Penn State. I believe him when he says 122 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: he loves it there. I fully believe that. But I 123 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: also believe that you've got to be a realist and 124 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: you got to look around and say, if I'm going 125 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: to be held to the highest standard in the sport, 126 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: that's okay. And I think he's even okay with that. 127 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: He probably, like I would be, and like you would 128 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: be if you were there, also wants to have the 129 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: same standards met on the end of his demands as 130 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: maybe a Ryan Day does, as maybe a Nick Saban does. 131 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: And I don't think that's totally unfair. If it is unfair, 132 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: then that's where you sit at the negotiating table with 133 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: the powers that be at Penn State and they look 134 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: you in the eye and say, James, we're not going 135 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: to give you that. Now. When he says there are 136 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts, well, that's where it may 137 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: come time for him to make a decision. Because I 138 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: can promise you theoretically, if LSU were to approach him tomorrow, 139 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: they would tell him yes on everything he asked for. 140 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: I can assure you of that, it would not be 141 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: an issue. In fact, they would pride themselves on saying yes. 142 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: So he's right, it is complicated, But he also is 143 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: in a position of leverage and he finds himself there 144 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: quite frequently, and he's there again, and so it's good 145 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: for him to be in that sit situation. But if 146 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: you're a Penn State fan, it's ultimately good for you. 147 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: And I know it doesn't feel that way, but it 148 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: is ultimately good for you. Now, later tonight on Lake 149 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Kick Live, I'm probably going to do an extension of 150 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: this because the follow up question is, all right, well, 151 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: even if James Franklin's playing the game that way, doesn't 152 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: he understand that he could really be hurting his recruiting 153 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: Because if I were recruiting against Penn State, I'd be 154 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: in the living room of every major kid and they 155 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: got a good class right now, his best class so 156 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: far on paper. I'd be in the living room of 157 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: every one of those kids and their parents saying, did 158 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: you hear what James Franklin said? Our coaching staff, our 159 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: head coach, is not talking like that. We're going to 160 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: be here regardless he's telling you, there are a lot 161 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: of moving parts. Hey, what if that means your scholarship 162 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: down the road, or what if he signed you and 163 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: then he's out the door. Yeah, all that's going to happen. 164 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna address that later tonight on Lake 165 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: Kick Live unless something crazy happens, so you'll want to 166 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: tune in for that. Also, you get the replays of 167 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: all those shows the next morning in this very podcast feed. 168 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: Jake is up next. Jake leads us down a road 169 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: of controversy, and the road is going to only get 170 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: more narrow and more narrow as we get past Halloween 171 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: and we enter the month of November. So Jake says, 172 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: if he lists a whole bunch of teams here basically 173 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: the usual suspects that are in the top of the 174 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: playoff discussion, if all those teams, if they run the table, 175 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: which one of them is going to get left out 176 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: according to your theory for Cincinnati to make the college 177 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: football playoff? Good question, Jake. Now what he's talking about 178 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: is since the beginning of the season, I have said, 179 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: if Cincinnati goes undefeated, it is my belief they will 180 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: be in the playoff. I still believe that if Cincinnati 181 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: remains undefeated, they will be in the playoffs. So Jake 182 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: is saying, well, if all of these folks go undefeated, 183 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: if none of them lose the rest of the way, 184 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: or there's one other scenario there, but if all of 185 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: this chalk plays out largely, then which one of them 186 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: is going to get left out? Because you're telling me 187 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: Cincinnati is going to be in regardless, So which one 188 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: of them is going to get left out? This is 189 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: a very important question because it occurs to me that 190 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: maybe I haven't been clear in what my stance is. 191 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: My stance to let me state it if I have 192 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: not stated it clearly. My stance is I believe if 193 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: Cincinnati goes undefeated, they are going to be in the playoff. Okay, 194 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: now here's what I'm not telling you. It sounds like 195 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: fence riding, which I sometimes do. This is not fence riding. 196 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: I am telling you I think Cincinnati's going to be 197 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: in the playoff. What I'm not telling you, and what 198 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't telling you even at the beginning of the year, 199 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: is Cincinnati will be in the playoff regardless of whoever 200 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: else goes undefeated. The entire premise of me thinking, since 201 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: he is going to be free and clear if they 202 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: go undefeated, is the premise that there will not be 203 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: enough other undefeated teams. There will not be enough of 204 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: what we normally see at the top. In other words, 205 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: so let me tell you what I do think. I 206 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: do think since he's going to be in if they 207 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: go undefeated. But let me also tell you, Jake, if 208 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: the following were to occur, if Oklahoma remains undefeated, if 209 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: Ohio State doesn't lose another game, if Alabama goes to 210 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: Atlanta and they beat Georgia, so each of those teams 211 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: has one loss, since he would be out of the playoff. 212 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: I fully believe there are routes or roots, depending on 213 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: what part of the country you're from where since he 214 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: doesn't make it as an undefeated So I'm not telling 215 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: you that be and would have to bump undefeated Oklahoma 216 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: out to fulfill that prophecy. I'm telling you I don't 217 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: think we're gonna get to that point. I'm telling you 218 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams at Oklahoma still has to face probably two 219 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: or three of the toughest defensive coordinators he's faced all year, 220 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: and a Big Twelve championship game, and they have been 221 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: living perilously to begin with. Bama still got to go 222 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: on the road to the Iron Bowl in an environment 223 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: probably equal to, if not more hostile than, two of them. 224 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: They've struggled in mightily so far this season. Not to 225 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: mention Auburn going into the bye week was playing their 226 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: best football. Ohio State and CJ. Stroud look good right now, 227 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: look very good. Good teams have lost before and they 228 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: still got Penn State, they still got Michigan State, they 229 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: still got Michigan. They've still got a Big Ten championship game, 230 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: and they've already got one loss on the resume. Remember 231 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: that there is a lot to come. I think there 232 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: is a blatant misconception out there. I can only call 233 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: it a blatant misconception that after all of this chaos 234 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: in September, in October, somehow we're going to have this 235 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: tranquil month of November where everyone cruises like you've entered 236 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: the eye of the hurricane. Well, the funny thing about 237 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: the eye of a hurricane is it doesn't last long. 238 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: It doesn't let the whole point of being in the eye. 239 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: It's not like the storm has passed. The storm has 240 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: directly over you. So if you feel a little false 241 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: sense of tranquility right now, it's only because you're in 242 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: the eye of the hurricane. Well, the back eye wall 243 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: is coming. There is more chaos coming. Some of these 244 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: teams are going to lose. For the record, let's just look, 245 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: since this is probably like only the second or third 246 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: time I've pulled this list up all year, I'm looking 247 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: at the apeopole. That's always my general reaction to the 248 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: a people. I'm sorry, a lot of good people participate 249 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: in this, but sometimes good people produce terrible products. That's 250 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: how we get things like moon pies. Anyway. So these 251 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: are the teams that I believe do control their own 252 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: fate even over Cincinnati. Georgia obviously does, Alabama obviously does, 253 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: Oklahoma obviously does, and I think Ohio State, Michigan and 254 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: Michigan State all do. I think if those teams went 255 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: out well, then they would be in and if it 256 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: came down to them or Cincinnati, it would be them 257 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: over Cincinnati. You also are probably looking at a situation 258 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: where old Miss is in that category. I just don't 259 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: think a lot of people expect Old Miss to be 260 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: able to be there because it's just a little bit 261 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: of a stretch right now. But if they were in 262 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: that position, I think Old Miss is also in over Cincinnati. 263 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: My point has been it continues to be. I do 264 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: not think we are going to have four of those 265 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: listed teams all there. If at least four of them 266 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: are there, then yeah, they're in over Cincinnati. I do 267 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: because I mean some of them I listed can't be there, 268 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: like Michigan and Michigan State can't both be there, Michigan 269 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: and Ohio State. Michigan State and Ohio State, they can't 270 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: both be there because they're all about to round rob 271 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: and play each other. Georgia could be there without Alabama. 272 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: If Georgia were to beat Alabama in Atlanta, Alabama would 273 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: have two losses, they'd be out of this conversation. So see, 274 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: even though I listed a small number of teams, the 275 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: actual amount that hold the keys over Cincinnati is even 276 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: smaller than the already small list that I laid out 277 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: for you. So I think Cincinnati's in there, not because 278 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: they'd be put in over one of those teams, but 279 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: rather because I don't think enough of quote unquote those 280 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: teams are going to be standing in the way this 281 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: time around. Speaking of ole miss, let me go to 282 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: a next question. Several of you asked this one too, 283 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: very very astute, very astute question here. It basically goes 284 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: like this, If you claim the JP pole is all 285 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: about who would be favored over who and you've got 286 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: ole Miss at number four, and you've got Auburn at 287 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: number nine, then why would you be picking Auburn to 288 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: beat ole Miss this weekend? And also why would your 289 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: model have Auburn minus five? That makes no sense, does it? Yes, 290 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: it does make sense. So I'm glad you asked. Though 291 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: several of you asked. I've been dming back and forth 292 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: with like a dozen of you about this, So yes, 293 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: you are correct in the premise of the JP Pole. 294 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: The JP Pole, to be very clear, not a ranking 295 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: system at all. I think I've said that a million 296 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: times this year, and it will still be at least 297 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: a million more. The JP Pole is all about that. 298 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: So when I have ole Miss at four, let me 299 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: pull it up quick, ole Miss at for stallings stalling 300 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: there it is, so I got ole Miss at four. 301 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: That means I would favor them over everyone behind them. 302 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: Oklahoma is seven. I would favor them over everyone behind 303 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: them on a neutral field tomorrow in a static environment. 304 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: So understand what we're talking about. There no scheduling, dynamic 305 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: in place, no home field advantage, nothing like that. Well, 306 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: the reason I mentioned those two categories is cause they're 307 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: both in play against Ole Miss this weekend. So to 308 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: give you a quick mathematical idea of how this works, 309 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking at our raw power ratings right now, and 310 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: I've got a new miracle grade that I don't show you. 311 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Ole Miss at four Auburn at nine. We separate those 312 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: teams by a little over four points. So we would 313 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: favor Old Miss by four points on a neutral field 314 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: if both teams were coming off a buy and they 315 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: played on a neutral field today. Obviously that's not what's 316 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: happened in this weekend. Right off the bat, I can 317 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: tell you that we are giving Jorden Hair Stadium four 318 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: and a half points of advantage in this particular spot. 319 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: We do not value home field e for every team 320 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: every game in this game. Based on a number of reasons, 321 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: we are giving Auburn four point five points of home 322 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: field advantage. That's a massive number. We give home field 323 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: to a much greater degree in general, but especially this year, 324 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: we're giving it more so than the average oddsmaker would 325 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: or handicapper would, So keep that in mind. So Auburn 326 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: just adding that four point five points, that already puts 327 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: them over that threshold. So that already puts us as 328 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: favoring them by a half point relative to Jpepole. But 329 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: then come the scheduling dynamics. Ole Mess has played Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas, 330 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: and LSU over the past month. Now you may look 331 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: at that and say, some of those teams are better 332 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: than others. They all have SEC rosters. They all have 333 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: SEC beat you up and brutalize you capability. Even LSU does, 334 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,359 Speaker 1: and they're not good this year. But see, the athletes 335 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: don't get any less big, fast, and strong. Your training 336 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: room doesn't look any less crowded the next day when 337 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: you played LSU, just because they may not make a 338 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: bowl game this year. That's not the way it works. 339 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: Ole Miss has played those four teams in a row. 340 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: Now they're going on the road to play Auburn. Auburn's 341 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: coming off a bye week, and they were playing their 342 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,239 Speaker 1: best football before the bye week. So then those scheduling 343 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: dynamics also exclamate home field. So the way we work 344 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: home field in the model sometimes is if we have 345 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: a rested home versus a beleaguered road I just wanted 346 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: to use the word beliegered. But the road team, if 347 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: they're coming off a tough stretch and they're going on 348 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: the road into what we already value with the hostile environment, 349 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: and they have less tread on their tires than the 350 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: home team. Then we add some more numerical value to 351 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: home field advantage above and beyond how we would normally 352 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: determine it there. So when you combine that with the 353 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: scheduling dynamics with the typical home field, that's how we 354 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: go all the way from Ole mess being favored by 355 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: four on a neutral against Auburn, all the way across zero, 356 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: all the way to Auburn minus five. That's what the 357 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: model spat out for this game this week. That is 358 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: a nine point difference in what the model thinks would 359 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: happen if those two teams played in a static environment 360 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: versus what will happen or what it thinks will happen 361 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: this Saturday. That's the impact of home field and scheduling 362 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: dynamics in college football. It is different than the NFL 363 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: way different. That is also why, among other reasons, you 364 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: don't always see a massive knee jerk reaction for me, 365 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: just because the team wins a game or just because 366 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: the team loses a game. There's so much more that 367 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: goes into it, and that's not even the factor in 368 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: how turnovers do not serve as the best indicators in 369 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: future predictability. So anyway, that's how we got to where 370 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: we are with Ole miss Auburn this Saturday. But I 371 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: do get it before I move on, I do get 372 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: why that looks hypocritical. The best way I've ever come 373 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: up to explain it to people is think about when 374 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: you're buying a new car and it gives you the 375 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: miles per gallon, and it gives you the fuel efficiency 376 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: and whatnot. Well, you've got two different listings there. You've 377 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: got city and highway. Why is the miles per gallon 378 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: lower in the city than it is on the highway. 379 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: Shouldn't it just be the same If the car is 380 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: on and it's moving forward, shouldn't it be using the 381 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: same amount of gas? Well, no, it doesn't, because when 382 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: you have start stops start stopping the city versus normal 383 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: crews on the highway, it uses fuel differently. When you 384 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: have two teams that arrested coming off a bye week 385 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: and they played a neutral fuel, which is the best 386 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: way to measure teams against each other, it's a little 387 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: bit different than when you've had a month's worth of 388 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: sec grind and I'm coming off of bye and you're 389 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: coming into my building to play me. Those are two 390 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: different worlds. And let me also give you a sneak peak. 391 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: Let's just say Auburn were to win twenty eight to 392 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: twenty three Saturday. That would be a five point Auburn win. Right. Well, 393 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: you would think, okay, that means Auburn's going to bump 394 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: up ole Miss is going to go down. No, if 395 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: that were to happen, then that means the model was 396 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: dead on the money, which means it would have the 397 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: least incentive ever to change the value of these teams. 398 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: We would keep ole Miss the exact amount of points 399 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: ahead of Auburn as they are right now, because the 400 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: model would basically have its own projection reaffirmed. It would 401 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: be told you were right, therefore, don't change anything. If 402 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: ole Miss won the game by three this weekend, but 403 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: Auburn was minus four turnovers, the model would also be 404 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: told you were right, don't drop Auburn. Keep on Miss 405 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: where they are. Don't drop Auburn because we don't weigh 406 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: turnovers and outcomes based on turnovers in any kind of 407 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: predictability model. On a related note, that's how Nebraska, with 408 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: a sub five hundred record is sitting at twenty five. 409 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: I've actually got them power rated ahead of wake I 410 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: would pick Nebraska on a neutral field tomorrow against wake Forest. 411 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 1: And what's funny to watch is I know some of 412 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: you have been trained in clickbait and you think that's 413 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: just clickbait, and oh, he's just trying to get attention. Yeah. No, Now, 414 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 1: if you know anything about me, you already know. No. 415 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: If you don't know anything about me, First off, what 416 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: you need to know about the media industry is clickbait 417 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: stopped working as a strategy about five or six years 418 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: ago in the digital media industry when all the digital 419 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: tech giants disproportionately flip their algorithms to valuing watch time 420 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: and audience retention over click through because they realized people 421 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: were jipping you and therefore jipping the ad dollars that 422 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: were being pumped into those machines by clickbait. So, first off, 423 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: please understand that clickbait is not a sustainable revenue model anymore. 424 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: It really never was sustainable, but it's especially not now. 425 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: It's stupid to participate in and partake in. So that's 426 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: number one. Number two, No, one's making a dime when 427 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: you click on something on Twitter. I hate to be 428 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: the bearer of bad news, but that's where I put 429 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,919 Speaker 1: this out. That's where we put the stuff out. We 430 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: put it on the social channels. We don't even put 431 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: it on the web, where theoretically you would make the 432 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: money by generating the clicks. So that's point three is 433 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: Vegas agrees. That's my main point. Odds makers would agree 434 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: with this. Now, they may not have Nebraska rated exactly 435 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: where I do. There may even be one or two 436 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: out there that would have wake Forest like a point 437 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: or two above. But my point is wake Forest is undefeated, 438 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: Nebraska is sub five hundred. Yet I'm telling you that 439 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: matters so little relative to who would be favored against 440 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: who tomorrow that every book out there, if they were 441 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: to play that game, if Nebraska and wake Forest met 442 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: in a bowl game tomorrow or next week, you would 443 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: see that line, and I think you would be stunned, 444 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: and you'd be stunned to find out, Wow, had JP 445 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: Paul wasn't so clickbaitish after Oh he was actually right? 446 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: It was actually right, and if it was wrong, it 447 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: was wrong by like one or two points. Wake Forest 448 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: would not be some touchdown or ten point favorite over 449 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: Nebraska just because they're undefeated. No one cares. No one cares. 450 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: In the merit based world, in the ranking world, in 451 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: the playoff committee world, absolutely, in the bowl selection process world. 452 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely I believe in that too. Don't misunderstand me. Record 453 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: means a whole lot. It's what you used to earn 454 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: your way to certain things. It's why I always try 455 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: and distinguish A power rating has nothing to do with that. 456 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: Just as sure as I say that, I'll put out 457 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: a power rating and I'll have an undefeated team behind 458 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: a several loss team, and someone will come in the 459 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: comments and ask, well, why do we even play the games? 460 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: Will you play them to win them? Herm Edwards, You 461 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: play them to win the games, and you win the 462 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: games so you can hopefully get a really big prize 463 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Well, how can you 464 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: say that and have that team ranked above them? I don't, sir, 465 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't have anyone ranked anywhere. I'm looking at it 466 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: right here. No, you're looking at a power rating rating, 467 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: not ranking. I even put it right there in the 468 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: description that thing you clicked on that I baited you 469 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: into apparently you should have read it. I don't know 470 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: what else tell you. I'm doing the shruggy emoji in 471 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: the microphone as I speak. You should have read it. 472 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: See this is why I need a podcast producer. I 473 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: need someone on the other side of the hypothetical glass 474 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: here that doesn't really exist because I'm talking into a blanket, 475 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: but I need someone to look at me and just 476 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: do the Let's cut it out. Let's cut it out right, 477 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: Let's move on. Someone needs to point to the wrist. 478 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: Let's just move it on. Let's just roll it on. 479 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: Otherwise that's what happens. I mean, I don't even know 480 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: how we got there. I do know this. We owe 481 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: our fine partners on ad break and we'll do it 482 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: right now. But I got more coming back, so we 483 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: bring it back in here with Adam. Adams got a 484 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: question that's only going to be more and more popular 485 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: and ask more and more as we again get into November, 486 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: and that is who would your favorite be in the Heisman? 487 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: Right now? I hate to rain on this question, but 488 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: most of you know what I'm about to say. I 489 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: don't particularly get into the Heisman year. I did only 490 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: because we adopted DeVante Smith essentially is like a son 491 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: of the show, so we were promoting him NonStop. So 492 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: I was really into the Heisman last year, but I'm 493 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: typically not into the Heisman. That's no knock on the Heisman. 494 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for that trophy and 495 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: for most, if not all, of the folks who have 496 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: won that trophy. I've just never been crazy about the 497 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: selection process. I've never been crazy about the voting process, 498 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: and when things like a Heisman moment are valued more 499 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: than the entire body of work of your season and 500 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: doesn't really carry a whole lot of weight with me. 501 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: But that's just me. That's my personal preference. I know 502 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: most of you do care about it. But since I 503 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: was asked by Adam, who do I think would be 504 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: leading right now? I don't have an answer for you, 505 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: only because I look at this the same exact way 506 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: as people are talking about George's defense. Right now, George's 507 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: defense is being talked about as historic, Is it the 508 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: greatest of all time? Well, you can't answer it, just 509 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: like you can't answer who the Heisman favorite is right now. 510 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: I guess in an odds making sense, you could, but 511 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: I personally would not have a favorite, just like I 512 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: personally would have no opinion on whether George's defense is 513 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. You're judging greatest of all 514 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: time against teams that have played complete seasons. Georgia hasn't 515 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: played a complete season. Not only do you run the 516 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: risk of injury down the stretch that could fundamentally alter 517 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: the makeup of your defense. Of course, you don't ever 518 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: hope that happens, but it could happen. It has happened 519 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: to those other teams. But secondly, they haven't played the 520 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: best teams that they'll play. That's not a knock on Georgia, 521 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: that's just saying data is incomplete. Well, with the Heisman, 522 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: data is incomplete right now, we don't have a clear favorite, 523 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: which I think would be fun. I don't know, like 524 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: I said last week, why people aren't more into it. 525 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: If I were a Heisman guy, if I were really 526 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: excited by it, I'd love that way more than watching 527 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson just pull away with the award or watching 528 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: someone like Joe Burrow pull away with the award. Great players, 529 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: I like watching the players, but as far as the 530 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: race comes, that seems boring to me. But I don't know. 531 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm maybe I don't get the Heisman. Maybe I just 532 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: don't understand it. But I mean, if you ask me, 533 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: Matt Carrall, who do we have? Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud, 534 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: Kenneth W. Walker's got a big chance with Michigan State 535 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: this weekend, and there are other names. I'm not making 536 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: an exhaustive list. Don't all those guys have their biggest 537 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: moments still to come. There are some who believe Caleb 538 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: Williams should be in this conversation. In that sense, I'm not 539 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: a Heisman guy. I'll abstain from definitively stating whether he 540 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: should or shouldn't. It makes no sense to me for 541 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: a guy who came in what a third to a 542 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: quarter of the way through the season to just rocket 543 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: his way right up at the top. But like I said, 544 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: maybe I don't get the Heisman. But my point is, 545 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: all of these players you can throw Williams in there 546 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: too if you want to. All these players have their 547 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: biggest games still to come. All these players have their 548 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: biggest stretch still in front of them, So how can 549 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: you know anything about the Heisman? So I sound a 550 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: little more aggravated than I am. I'm really not aggravated. 551 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: At all by it. I just always I find myself. 552 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys feel this way or not. 553 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: I find myself perplexed, probably the first time I've used 554 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: that word on the pod this year. I find myself 555 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: perplexed at how wrapped up people getting these conversations that 556 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: are going to sort themselves out into and they allow 557 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: themselves to get wrapped up in it. In October, look around. 558 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: There are actual games, actual football games this Saturday that 559 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: require all of my attention. I'm totally invested in the 560 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: games that are going to happen on the field. Unless 561 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: I had money on it, which I don't, I couldn't 562 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: care less to be honest with you about where the 563 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: heisman is right now. It'll come when it comes. I mean, 564 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: it'll happen when it happens, And if a leader emerges, 565 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: you won't have to ask, you'll know. You'll watch the 566 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: odds move first off, but you won't need an odds board. 567 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: Your eyeballs will tell you Yep, that guy CJ. Stroud. 568 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean he just beat He just beat Penn State 569 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: fifty six to thirteen. I think if that were to 570 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: happen and he were to throw for six touchdowns and 571 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: run for another one. Yeah, I think it would be 572 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: pretty clear. CJ. Stroud just made his mark. I think 573 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: he's the leader in the clubhouse now. But until it happens, 574 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: just pay attention to the games, Just follow the games. 575 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: The games will never lie to you, neither will Brandon. 576 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: That's why he's getting his question answered next. Brandon, been 577 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: hearing your name a lot lately, buddy, he says, out 578 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: of curiosity for the Late Kick Extra pod. What do 579 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: your Saturdays consist of? Pregame at each venue? I hear 580 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: you mention how you meet plenty of fans. So do 581 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: you set up a media site or is that more 582 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: just you casually walking around before pregame festivities. Pretty good question, 583 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: I guess I haven't been clear on this either. We 584 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: don't have a pregame media site. Let's book mark Dad. 585 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: I'm about to come back to that in a second, 586 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: cause that could change. But no, there is no pregame 587 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: media site. Most of the time. What it is is 588 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: I have gotten in town the day before, I'll meet 589 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: a ton of people at airports. I'll meet people obviously 590 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: in hotel lobbies and things of that nature. But also, 591 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: like you just said, walking I mean I was at 592 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: Bryant Any Stadium last week, so we park in the 593 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: media parking garage, and just the walk from your parking 594 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: place through the quad kind of and then up the 595 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: Walk of Champions. Probably I don't know anywhere between five 596 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: to ten people just in that walk alone I met, 597 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: shook hands with talk. But then I'm on the field 598 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: for games, so you're walking around the sidelines, and of 599 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: course you've got a lot of people that just say, hey, 600 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: can I take a picture, Hey, shake the hand, Hey 601 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: like the show, love the show, all of which I appreciate, 602 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: by the way, And that's how normally the interaction happens. 603 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: Now let's go back to the bookmark and let's talk 604 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: about what could happen. As you know, Brandon and anyone 605 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: else who listens to the pod, as you know, what 606 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: we've done this year is we've labeled the entire season 607 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: just a renaissance season, and I think it's delivered so far. 608 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: I think you've seen home Field come back in a 609 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: big way. Think you've seen a lot more upsets, Think 610 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: you've seen a lot more volatility. And so we've got that, like, 611 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: we got the kind of season to this point that 612 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: we thought we were going to get and since I'm 613 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: in a game every week, we've just labeled it the 614 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: Renaissance Tour. But as you have noticed, it's kind of undefined. 615 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of unofficial. I mean, really, what's happening is 616 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: I myself am going to whichever game I choose to 617 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: go to every week. But we don't have big events, 618 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: do we. Well. As I was talking with one of 619 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: our executives about earlier in the summer, before the season 620 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: even started, he asked me, what is the Renaissance Tour? Like? 621 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: Explain this concept to me? And I said, I can't 622 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: explain it to you. The audience, the listeners, the viewers, 623 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: the fans, they're going to explain it to you. He said, 624 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? I said, well, we're 625 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: going to see what kind of reaction it gets and 626 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: then we're going to take it from there, which is 627 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: the way that I build every show. We build it 628 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: based on what you want via either your direct comments 629 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: or your viewership trends and habits. If you're watching something 630 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: thirty percent less in average retention than something else, I'm 631 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: not going to do that thing that you were telling 632 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: me you like less as much as I do the 633 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: thing you're telling me you're going to like more. So, 634 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: if we were to go on the road and we 635 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: were to get no interaction with anyone, and we were 636 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: to get no feedback on it, would probably scrap it. 637 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,239 Speaker 1: I'd still go to games, but we would probably scrap it. Well, 638 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: the opposite has happened. We've gotten great reaction. In fact, 639 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: every single week, Brandon, someone asks me, in fact, several 640 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: several people ask a version of what you just asked. 641 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: What else is there? What kind of event can I 642 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: go to? Are you guys doing anything on Friday night 643 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: or Saturday night? What are you guys doing? So here's 644 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. What I'm thinking is we are growing 645 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: a concept. We're growing a product, the Renaissance Tour. Obviously 646 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: it's got a different name for a different year. But 647 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: let's say this time next year, or maybe we don't 648 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: wait until next year. Maybe we circle let's say SEC 649 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: Championship weekend in Atlanta, since we know that's where it's 650 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: going to be, we know we're gonna be there a 651 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: solid month ahead of time. Let's just say we circle 652 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,719 Speaker 1: that weekend. Well, what if that Friday we were to 653 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: have kind of a listener and viewer only, exclusive Q 654 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: and A event, but it's in person. Let's just throw 655 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: that concept out there. I'll tell you what. I'll throw 656 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: the concept out there. A lot of you are in 657 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: the South, a lot of you would be in Atlanta 658 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: for that game. Let's just see how it goes. If 659 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: you don't want it, we won't do it. If you 660 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: do want it, we will do it. Obviously, we need 661 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: a little lead time so it would have to set 662 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: it up. But you just tell me what you think 663 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: about that. Because what I could see in the future brand, 664 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: and to get back to your question, is I could 665 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: see that being the norm. I could see the norm 666 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: for let's say this time next year of me getting 667 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: into town early on Friday and us having a venue 668 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: selected where everyone who listens to and watches the show 669 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: in that particular market comes and you know, you probably 670 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: have dinner there, we have some interaction, we probably do 671 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: something off the record. It's not recorded. It's this kind 672 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: of format, but we can be a little more open 673 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: with it. Put your cell phones away, that sort of deal. 674 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: So I could see that. But also Brandon, to go 675 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: back to the second part of your question, which is 676 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: what is the game day routine. I'm doing a lot 677 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: of work on CBS Sports HQ at these games. So, 678 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: for instance, Saturday morning at Michigan Michigan State, little inside 679 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: Baseball for you here, we've actually had to adjust our routine. 680 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: So I've been back and forth with Michigan State all week. 681 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: They've been great. I mean they've been great to us. 682 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: They've bent over backwards to accommodate us, actually, and it's 683 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: a chore for them this week because they've got both 684 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: Thoughts and ESPN pregame shows in town. And as I 685 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: told you the other night on the show, they've got 686 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: both of those that are going to be on the 687 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: sideline the last hour leading up to kickoff. The sideline 688 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: before kickoff at a major game is a complete and 689 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: total fiasco. It's ridiculous. You've got recruits down there, you 690 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: got donors down there, you got just random people who 691 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what their purpose is down there. Then 692 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: you've got media down there. But now you've got two 693 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: pregame shows down there. Oh, by the way, you got 694 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: teams on the field warming up. So what I'll be 695 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: doing is we'll get over the really early. I'll be 696 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: in the stadium really early. I'll be doing live hits 697 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: with it. May be Hikeem Dermish or it maybe someone 698 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: else in there. I don't know how early Hikeem wakes up, 699 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: but I'll be doing live hits, live talkbacks as they 700 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: call them, back and forth with the folks at CBS 701 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: Sports HQ. They're down in Fort Lauderdale. I'll be in 702 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: East Lansing, and so that's what's happening before the game. 703 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: I do the same thing after the game, and then 704 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: on this particular weekend, I'll head straight to the airport 705 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: and get back here in Nashville Saturday night. I'll be 706 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: here before the games wrap up that day. But every 707 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: week is unique, and so this one in particular, since 708 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: it's a noon kickoff and we got to be in 709 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: the stadium, we got to do those live hits ninety 710 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: minutes ahead of kickoff instead of our usual sixty minutes 711 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: ahead of kickoff. And then we got to be able 712 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: to clear out so that the other folks can come in. 713 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: What I'm telling you is we have to get out 714 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: of the way so game Day can bring their set indoors. 715 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: And I guess the entire success or failure of college 716 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: game Day this Saturday. Wouldn't you know it rests on 717 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: the shoulders of us getting our stuff out of the way. 718 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: I hope we get out of the way in time. 719 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: We have had such a cordial relationship this year with 720 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: College Game Day. I got to get out of here 721 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: because we've got stuff to do. I got to go 722 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: do a hit with Wilfong. Got to do Wilfong whip 723 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: around in just a second. So thank you so much. 724 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: This podcast has taken off. Our numbers are great. Please 725 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: continue to get five star reviews. We are approaching two thousand. 726 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: I see no reason why we can't fly past it 727 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: before the end of the year or maybe the end 728 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: of the week. So let's get those five star reviews 729 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: rolling in. It really really really helps us out big time. 730 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: And the one more thing I would ask you to do, 731 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: make sure you're following at Late Kick Josh on Twitter, 732 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: at late Kick Josh on Instagram. These sorts of things 733 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: are free for you, and they keep the show free 734 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: for you, and that's what we all want. Last thing 735 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: I want to be doing is having any kind of 736 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: corporate executive come in and say we're overruling you. We're 737 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: charging for the show now. Well, I throw up the deuces, 738 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: but let's not get to that point. So like, subscribe, 739 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: do all those important things, five star reviews, and most importantly, 740 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: thank you for listening. To begin with producer Jordan, I'm 741 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: Josh Paint. Have a great rest of your day and 742 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: God bless