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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health.

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Speaker 2: Right here, will be on a Thursday. Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Tasker with you on One Bill's Live. Players back out

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Speaker 2: on the practice field, getting in a more spirited practice

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Speaker 2: today than the walkthrough yesterday, and we'll have updates from

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Speaker 2: the field from our eyes over there.

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Speaker 3: In just a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Full show for you today because coming up bottom of

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Speaker 2: the hour in about a half an hour, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: chat with our good friend Andrew Catalan from the NFL

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Speaker 2: on CBS as he prepares for his two hundredth NFL game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so she recognized on and Andrew and I do

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Speaker 1: the preseason games together, yeah, for the Bills. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: he of course he works with CBS and does games

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Speaker 1: every week. And I've worked with him for a lot

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Speaker 1: of years and now he's doing two hundredth game. I

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Speaker 1: did his first game, like, yeah, fifteen years ago. So

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Speaker 1: good for him having him on today. Yeah, so we'll

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 2: We'll review that he's doing Texans Raiders for his two

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Speaker 2: hundredth game. Second hour of the show, the Hall of

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Speaker 2: Famer Thurman Thomas will be in, so we'll catch up

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Speaker 2: with him. Want to talk to him about how far

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Speaker 2: he thinks James Cook can push this rushing title chase

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Speaker 2: because he has been reeling in Jonathan Taylor with each

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Speaker 2: passing week. And we'll see what Therman thinks about James

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Speaker 2: perhaps overtaking Taylor in these final three weeks of the

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Speaker 2: regular season. See if you can get his first career

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Speaker 2: rushing title. Be kind of a cool deal. They'll thing

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Speaker 2: to hang his hat on going into the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be very nice.

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Speaker 2: So we'll discuss any and all of those things with

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Speaker 2: our two guests later on the show. We'll also have

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Speaker 2: sound from the post practice podium after the players are

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Speaker 2: off the field later this afternoon. This week's game at

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Speaker 2: the Browns presented by the Bflo Store, the official retailer.

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Speaker 3: Of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: But it is time for Bill's practice updates and they

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Speaker 2: are presented by Lee Coom your Lake Erie College of

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Speaker 2: Osteopathic Medicine. And we had a couple of surprise non

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Speaker 2: participants on the injury report late yesterday as Dion Dawkins

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Speaker 2: misspracticed due to illness. Dalton Kincaid listed as a non

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Speaker 2: participant with his nagging knee problem. Now it was just

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Speaker 2: a walk through yesterday, So the participation level was an stimation. So,

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Speaker 2: as I said, we'll have our eyes out at practice

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Speaker 2: today to give us any updates on those two and

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Speaker 2: anybody else that might be a change to what we

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Speaker 2: saw on Wednesday. Limited in practice to where Elbernar Christian

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Speaker 2: Benford yesterday. They're trying to return from elbow and tow injuries.

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Speaker 2: Neither of them played last week. Also limited wide receiver

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Speaker 2: Nicole Hardman, who remains uninjured reserve as of now, but

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Speaker 2: his practice window is opened. He's returning from a calf

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Speaker 2: injury suffered back in week eleven in his only game

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Speaker 2: as a Bill against the Bucks. Didn't finish that game,

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Speaker 2: exited early and did not return. So hopefully there are

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Speaker 2: no more surprises on the practice field today or on

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Speaker 4: The practice field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to get this team healthy.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: Well, little you know, it's one of those. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: guy comes back, that guy leaves. No, it's like constant

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Speaker 1: revolving door in the roster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we already know that Matt Prater and Jordan Phillips

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Speaker 2: So Michael Badgley was here yesterday. He got signed to

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Speaker 2: So great, good kicker though, I mean eighty three percent

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Speaker 1: there's always a list of guys out there that try

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Speaker 1: other day and there's the league is replete with stories

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Speaker 2: He said they had, you know, that list a pretty

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Speaker 1: So and listen, think about this. You're at home and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the life, man, and I'm sure to work

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll say this too. Your agent can't find you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you literally missed the audition.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't much different when they signed Prader. You don't

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Speaker 1: he's got He got a full season in for the NFL.

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Speaker 1: At forty plus years of eight and has played well

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Speaker 1: for him, bless his heart. That's how it works, man,

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Speaker 1: it's the wild West in that side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: that special team side.

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Speaker 1: It's been why, I've never seen that.

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Speaker 3: It's been wild.

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Speaker 3: But it was three punters in six weeks.

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Speaker 1: And I went and said hello to was Wasnowski Wishnowski.

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Speaker 1: Darren Bennett was the guy there, and we became acquainted

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Speaker 1: and friendly and he goes, yeah, Wayne won't let me

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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, kick it in the it's the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: You go ahead and kick it. I'll chase it.

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Speaker 1: roster for kicking the Aussie.

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Speaker 3: Kids every time. To kick it, dude, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Everybody does it. Yeah, it's got to be in a

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Speaker 1: And it is more effective too, And it's changed the

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Speaker 1: Gives it a chance. Yes, it gives it a chance

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Speaker 1: a return player. So it's interesting stuff. And the Bills

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Speaker 1: so say all their hopes and dreams come true. You

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Speaker 1: got like five punters, You're gonna have like three punters

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Speaker 1: and two kickers or three kickers that all get Super

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, let's go around the NFL, presented by a

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Speaker 2: lot of healthy official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 2: and we begin with a huge game tonight, massive game

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Speaker 2: in the NFC West on Thursday Night football. The Rams

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Speaker 2: are in Seattle to face the Seahawks. The Rams flight yesterday,

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Speaker 2: in case anybody didn't know, was delayed because the plane

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Speaker 2: had a mechanical problem, so they had to divvy up

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Speaker 2: their travel party. Players and coaches went on the first

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Speaker 2: not getting in until after midnight, which is not fun

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Speaker 2: on a short week the winner of tonight's game controls

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Speaker 2: their own destiny for the number one seed in the NFC.

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Speaker 3: Both teams are eleven and three.

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Speaker 1: It's a I'm gonna watch that one. Got Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta stay on watch.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw these numbers, but Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: who's having a very productive season in his first year

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Speaker 2: as a starter for the Seahawks, has continued to fire

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Speaker 2: the Rams to be his career kryptonite. Since last season,

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Speaker 2: Darnold against the Rams zero to three, a QBR of

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Speaker 2: thirty four, three touchdowns, five picks. Against all other teams

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Speaker 2: since last season twenty five and four a QBR of

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Speaker 2: sixty fifty five touchdowns and nineteen picks.

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Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, to be fair, to be fair,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's none of that.

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Speaker 1: Think of the scrutiny, it would be death. Think about

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Speaker 1: That is what I mean by lightning on fire. Now,

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Speaker 2: I remember that whole thing, and I don't think I

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Speaker 3: That would cause.

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Speaker 2: Right, and media coverage of the league isn't what it

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Speaker 1: The amazing part about it was there was like twelve

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a problem.

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Speaker 2: That's best of luck to him that gets his full

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Speaker 3: So that's around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Topic of discussion for you today, what kind

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Speaker 2: Bills are an eleven and a half point road favorite.

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Speaker 2: What kind of win do you need to see to

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Speaker 1: So we come up with these, you know, these topics

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Speaker 2: in on the tweet sheet say I'm in just win,

440
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Speaker 2: baby mode, Just I win. Just keep stacking them. I

441
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Speaker 2: don't care if they're pretty, I don't care if it's

442
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Speaker 2: a blowout. I don't care if you win on the

443
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Speaker 2: last play of the game. Just win, Just get the

444
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Speaker 2: W and get out of there. Because it's kind of

445
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Speaker 2: and look with as tight as the race is in

446
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Speaker 2: the wild card, because I mean, we could talk about

447
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Speaker 2: the division and the Bills still only have about a

448
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Speaker 2: twenty four percent chance to win the division, right, you know,

449
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 2: the Colts are the Colts. The Paytriots kind of still

450
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: run the show there. The Bills need to run the table.

451
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Speaker 2: Patriots need to lose to either the Jets or the Dolphins,

452
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Speaker 2: and the Dolphins aren't looking.

453
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Speaker 3: That great these days.

454
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Speaker 1: Patriots aren't gonna lose to Brock yours is that his name?

455
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Speaker 1: Quinn yours?

456
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Speaker 4: Sorry?

457
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Speaker 1: I apologize, that's fine.

458
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Speaker 2: So you're then reduced to the wild card. And look

459
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Speaker 2: at how tightly packed the wildcard is. You got the

460
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Speaker 2: charges at ten and four bills attend and for Houston

461
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Speaker 2: at nine to five.

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Speaker 3: And you really want.

463
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Speaker 2: To finish ahead of the Houston Texans because they have

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Speaker 2: the head to head tiebreaker on.

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Speaker 3: You, right, So it's a tight the race.

466
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Speaker 2: The race for the wild card is tighter than it

467
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Speaker 2: is for some of these divisions.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the one, the one division that's still up

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Speaker 1: for grabs, the bolt is the North AFC North on

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Speaker 1: this side, the South.

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Speaker 3: To a certain extent too, because Houston's only a game back.

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Speaker 1: Houston's only a game back, and Indianapolis is leaking oil. Yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: but they can catch Jacksonville Jacksonville. You know, I can't

474
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Speaker 1: get myself to buy into Jacksonville just yet, although I

475
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Speaker 1: know they've got some talent down there on that side,

476
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Speaker 1: on both sides of the football. We'll we'll just have

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Speaker 1: to wait. Now that I think it's probably because of

478
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Speaker 1: my ignorance. I don't know those guys that well, right,

479
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Speaker 1: I know, I know Houston We've seen.

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Speaker 3: Houston already beat Jacksonville once.

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Speaker 1: Right, So.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville lost thirty six twenty nine back in Week ten

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Speaker 2: to Houston.

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Speaker 3: That was at Houston. This their next meeting.

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Speaker 4: They played.

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Speaker 1: Actually they're donree, they're done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're done. I forgot they played twice. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: they Jacksonville beat them or split?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Baltimore race is interesting to me, very interesting

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Speaker 1: because Pittsburgh has it's been a roller coaster that hasn't

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Speaker 1: had very many highs, and they've won games even with

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Speaker 1: their lows. You know, it seems like, right son they're

495
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Speaker 1: going to tie or is it tie or beat? I

496
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Speaker 1: think they might beat the Dallas Cowboys break that record

497
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Speaker 1: for the most consecutive seasons without having a losing season.

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Speaker 1: And I think it is from the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here it is. It'll be their twenty second. They are

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Speaker 1: one win away from the NFL record for most consecutive

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Speaker 1: seasons without a losing record. This will be their twenty

502
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Speaker 1: second year of playing football without having a losing record,

503
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Speaker 1: or they would Steelers. The Steelers, they would pass the

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five to nineteen eighty five Dallas Cowboys. This

505
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Speaker 1: will be They have their one win away from setting

506
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Speaker 1: the longest streak of winning seasons in NFL history. It

507
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Speaker 1: is very wild, considering they wanted to fire their coach

508
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Speaker 1: three weeks ago. The fans did.

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Speaker 2: The Texans very quietly have ripped off six straight wins

510
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Speaker 2: and still nobody's.

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Speaker 3: Talking about him.

512
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: So well, they haven't.

513
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Speaker 2: They haven't lost since three days, two days after Halloween.

514
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they've done well.

515
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Speaker 1: They got it together.

516
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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but we will

517
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Speaker 2: get to the phone calls. But we've got a conversation

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Speaker 2: coming up with NFL on CBS. Play by play man

519
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Speaker 2: Andrew Catalog set to call his two hundredth career game

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Speaker 2: on CBS.

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Speaker 3: We'll catch up with him next here on One.

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Colt of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on a Thursday edition of One

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Chris brown Steed task it with you and

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Speaker 2: happy to welcome in now one of the familiar faces

526
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Speaker 2: on the preseason Bill's television network, but more prominently calls

527
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Speaker 2: NFL games on CBS. It's Andrew Kanilon joining us as

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Speaker 2: we congratulate him on what will be his two hundredth

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Speaker 2: NFL game called on the NFL on CBS this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations Dane. First of all, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 7: Now, thank you guys. I appreciate it. You both mean

532
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Speaker 7: the world to me. Your entire crew and that entire organization.

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Speaker 5: Means a lot to me as well.

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Speaker 8: So thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, of course, in tremendous spirit to honor this, they

537
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Speaker 2: give you the best, the best defense in the NFL

538
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: against the worst offense in the NFL. Could there be

539
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: a more dichotomous matchup Raiders Texans.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that'll be interesting. As I've seen the Raiders a

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Speaker 7: couple of times this month, already out in the LA

542
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Speaker 7: against the Chargers and then that home game against Denver.

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Speaker 7: They are struggling. They do not have a lot of talent.

544
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Speaker 7: They've lost eight in a row. Genoss banged up. It's

545
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Speaker 7: a tough go right now for the Raiders. But this

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Speaker 7: is the first time I'll get to see the Texans,

547
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Speaker 7: and as the Bills found out a month ago, it's

548
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Speaker 7: a very dangerous team with the playoffs approaching.

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Speaker 1: What has Pete Carroll said about his team, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the guy that's used to winning he's an

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Speaker 1: accepted high level head coach. Certainly he's Yeah, he's older

552
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: than anybody else in the league doing it. But nevertheless,

553
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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like he's lost that much off his

554
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: fastball as a coach. What's his message to you? And subsequently,

555
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Speaker 1: what's his message to his own team? What's he said?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Steve, it's been interesting. And you know, Pete,

557
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Speaker 7: he's so optimistic. He's always positive. He feels like he

558
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 7: could dig out, find a way, figure things out.

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Speaker 8: But this is not what he expected.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he clearly thought that with Gino, Smith and

561
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Speaker 7: Bowers and Jenty and Crosby on defense, they were going

562
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Speaker 7: to figure out a way to win more than two games.

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Speaker 7: It hasn't happened. And now I think it puts the

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Speaker 7: Raiders in an interesting position. I mean, Carol himself admitted

565
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Speaker 7: that it's a re build time. And do they want

566
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Speaker 7: to rebuild with the oldest head coach in NFL history.

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Speaker 7: Some people might say, yes, he's the right person for

568
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Speaker 7: this type of job, but I think it has been

569
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Speaker 7: tough on him. It's the longest losing streak of his career.

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Speaker 7: It's the most games he's ever lost in one season,

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Speaker 7: and there's just I mean, you look at the game

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Speaker 7: last Sunday in Philly. You know they had seventy five.

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Speaker 8: Yards of offense. It's just been really, really bleak for

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Speaker 8: Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: As you pointed out, the Bills knew all too well

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Speaker 2: how difficult it is to play in Houston against that defense,

577
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Speaker 2: especially when they have the crowd behind them to boot,

578
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Speaker 2: and they really have not shown any sign of slowing down.

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Speaker 2: They're still trying to make a go of it for

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Speaker 2: the AFC South title, still a game back of the Jags,

581
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Speaker 2: a team with whom they split this season, but they've

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Speaker 2: very quietly. They've got the quietest six game winning streak

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Speaker 2: I think in the league.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Chris, it's really amazing how they have turned things

585
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Speaker 7: after that zero to three start and then they lost CJ.

586
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 7: Stroud for three games with the concussion. We're able to

587
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Speaker 7: navigate that, and now this defense is really scary. And

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Speaker 7: I think when you look at the AFC this year,

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Speaker 7: and I know you guys have talked about this, there's

590
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Speaker 7: no dominant team, and you can make a case for

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Speaker 7: any of the seven teams that get in that could

592
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Speaker 7: go to the Super Bowl represent the AFC it's really

593
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Speaker 7: going to come down to the hottest team. And right now,

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Speaker 7: the Texans, as you said, have quietly put together a

595
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Speaker 7: six game win streak, so they're still in the mix

596
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Speaker 7: of the division. There's a lot of confidence on the

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Speaker 7: defensive side, and it's starting to be a little more

598
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Speaker 7: confident on the offensive side. They put up forty against

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Speaker 7: Arizona last week. They're getting some contributions from some different

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Speaker 7: running backs, and Nico Collins continues to be one of

601
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Speaker 7: the premier wide receivers in the NFL. So everything's coming

602
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Speaker 7: together for them and we'll see how they finished here

603
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Speaker 7: down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: I know you may not have spoken to him because

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Speaker 1: you're going to get a chance to see him this week.

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Speaker 1: But Demico Ryan's head coach, he has kind of held

607
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Speaker 1: it together. They didn't. They kind of stumbled out of

608
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Speaker 1: the gate, and there was some doubts about CJ and

609
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Speaker 1: the whole thing. But Demiico deserves some credit for figuring

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Speaker 1: it out and finding a recipe now that has got

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Speaker 1: him on the ascent here at the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, the most important thing when you

613
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Speaker 1: got a year like this in the conference.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 7: Steve I mean, owen three start and you know, some

616
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 7: close games, but anytime you start owing three, you start

617
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Speaker 7: hearing the stats only this many teams have made the playoffs,

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Speaker 7: and you know it gets stacked against you pretty quickly.

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Speaker 7: But Will Anderson has a stud as the Bills saw

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Speaker 7: danil Hunter opposite of him has played really well and

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Speaker 7: their secondary is fantastic. And you know, I think Demiko

622
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Speaker 7: Ryans deserves a lot of credit. He is a passionate guy.

623
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Speaker 7: He's a guy that has that locker room very close

624
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 7: and to weather that storm and be in their position now,

625
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 7: he certainly should be in that mix. And there's a

626
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Speaker 7: lot of good candidates, but in that mix for Coach

627
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Speaker 7: of the Year.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Andrew for game number two hundred, are

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Speaker 2: you are you casting a wary and super sleuth eye

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Speaker 2: as to whether some hijinks could be in order here

631
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Speaker 2: from either your broadcast partners or the crew. You know

632
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: this is a milestone game, but you know there might

633
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Speaker 2: be there might be something special in the works there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're trying to keep your ear to

635
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Speaker 2: the ground on that, or you're just gonna try to

636
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Speaker 2: be sit back and be pleasantly surprised at being recognized.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, I appreciate it. I appreciate everything CPS

638
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 7: is done. But you know, and something like this happens,

639
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 7: I think you think most about the people you've been

640
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 7: with over the years. And you know, my first game

641
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 7: was twenty eleven with Steve and he's now become one

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Speaker 7: of my dear friends.

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Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, you.

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Speaker 1: Guys, Wow, do you look at the haircuts there?

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Speaker 4: How did this?

646
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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 8: Steve looks the same. I mean, yeah, fifty years yeah that.

648
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Speaker 7: But what I remember about that is I did not

649
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Speaker 7: sleep one.

650
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 8: Wink the night before. I was so nervous.

651
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 7: I paced that hotel room and so incinnati and then

652
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 7: we were only going to like two percent of the country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had the skim milk piece, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Exactly, but every other one o'clock game finished early. We

655
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Speaker 7: had a tie game at the two minute warning. And

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Speaker 7: I remember in my ear here and you need to welcome.

657
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Speaker 8: In the whole country.

658
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Speaker 7: And that was the way my first broadcast went on

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Speaker 7: CBS with Steve, who is still one of.

660
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Speaker 8: My best friends. So this is uh full circle here.

661
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're Yeah, Andrew's great. People don't know this. He

662
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: stays at my house when we do the preseason games

663
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: at home. So anyway is it the task? But I remember,

664
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: and this is still the case Andrew. Everybody knows what

665
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: spotterboards are. You kind of make these things up that

666
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: have the rosters on him. You had a handmake him,

667
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: or you have a service. There's services that also make

668
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: them and stuff. Andrew makes his by hand, and they're

669
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: the size of a whiteboard. He brought for his first

670
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: game at twenty eleven. He comes in. The CBS said, hey,

671
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna give this guy a chance. Would you mind

672
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: doing I said, yeah, sure, bringing in so Andrew shows up.

673
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: He's got he's got spotterboards literally the size.

674
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 3: Of refrigerator, like an old piece of poster. Boys and

675
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: that you haven't for projects, and so.

676
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: He is totally prepared except for he's right. He tells me, like, listen,

677
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep at all, Like what because let me

678
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: let me, let me just let me just like take

679
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: the whole pressure off of you.

680
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 4: I didn't.

681
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: I haven't slept in forty eight hours. So he says that,

682
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: and then we get up to do the open and

683
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: everybody knows what that is. It's like where the Collinsworth

684
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: Slide takes place. You know, the the play by play guys. Yeah,

685
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: the play by play guys appears on camera and the

686
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: two of you are there together and and we're doing

687
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: that getting ready for the game. And Andrew is literally trembling

688
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: because you know, this is you can imagine, this is like,

689
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: this is career make or break, right, It's a shot

690
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: on a national network. Not everybody gets one. Andrew had

691
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: put together enough stuff on tape and enough experienced play

692
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: by play stuff from I didn't even remember what you

693
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: were doing, just you know, you know how it is,

694
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: play by play guys. You do whatever you can do, right,

695
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: And he shows up. And so I get a call

696
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: from CBS after the weekend to say, hey, how'd the

697
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: guy do? What did you think? And certainly they talked

698
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: to our producer and all that, but they also called

699
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: me and let me say, I could not have pumped

700
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: your tires anymore than I did. I loved working with

701
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: you right from the day one. It was so fun.

702
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: We had a blast and we did. We've been friends

703
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: ever since. And I know that not long after that

704
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: you were you were full time and have been ever since.

705
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, you remember that weekend, Well, I mean that was unbelievable.

706
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 7: How close that game was, and how nervous I was,

707
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 7: And to your point, you know, you don't get a

708
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 7: lot of shots, and right step up to the plate

709
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 7: and you strike out, you might not get up to

710
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 7: the plate again. So there was a lot on my

711
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 7: mind that game. But you put me at ease, and

712
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 7: I felt just so comfortable with you. And now to

713
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 7: think about all the games we've done together, from CBS

714
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 7: to the Bills preseason, which is over ten years now,

715
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 7: I feel very fortunate and lucky. And it's certainly something that,

716
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 7: especially this time area, you don't take for granted.

717
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly after that you turn thirty years old, right,

718
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 1: I mean it was that's how young you was. Yeah,

719
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: you just had a birthday or something I remember around

720
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: that time. And now, I mean, you know you're gonna

721
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: be doing this when you're ninety, you know that, right,

722
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna be like al Michaels. You're gonna be eighty

723
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: years old and you're gonna be. Yeah, good for you.

724
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 7: If I can start playing golf like you, I'll quit

725
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 7: a lot earlier than Yeah, you'll quit him is not

726
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 7: good enough.

727
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: You'll quit golf. That's what you'll do if you play

728
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: me like me, I have a problem. And that's the

729
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: thing too. It's been it's been fun because you've because

730
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: you're a play by play guy and your versatility and

731
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: your talent has shown because now CBS uses you in

732
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: the eighteenth Tower when Jim Nantz needs a week off.

733
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: You've been doing master's coverage on the internet for what

734
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: like a decade now, right, I mean it's been a

735
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: long time. They've started to you know, you have started

736
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: to be used and show your versatility a lot more

737
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: on the golf coverage. Uh and and college bass all

738
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: as well. March Madness. That's been so it's a lot

739
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: of fun. I know this too. I loved my time

740
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: at CBS because I got to work with quality people

741
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: like you. And it's fun for you because you get

742
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: a little variety of what you can do, right.

743
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, no doubt.

744
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 7: And you know, I think back to that game with

745
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 7: you in twenty eleven and if it didn't go well,

746
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 7: who knows, you know, if any of these things would

747
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 7: have happened. So I appreciate it and it's been a

748
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 7: great run and CBS has treated me really well, as

749
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 7: have the Bills. I mean, I love doing the preseason games,

750
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 7: being with that organization being up there every summer, that

751
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 7: is a very important part and special part of my

752
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 7: year each and every year.

753
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 8: And I'm really glad that I'm a small part of

754
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 8: the preseason coverage up there.

755
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: Andrew, how did you like Obviously Steve was an experienced

756
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: guy when you got to sit next to him and

757
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 2: get started, you know, And now Jason mccordy's kind of

758
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: doing that same thing at the network level. Anyway, with

759
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: you as the third guy in your booth, now, how

760
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: much of a I don't think it's a challenge for

761
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: you is experienced as you are, But how do you

762
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: incorporate a third voice, not that you hadn't done it before,

763
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: but full time every week after you know, had been

764
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 2: with just a single partner for some time.

765
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, the three man booths of challenge and Steve and

766
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 7: I had that with Steve Burlin. But those are some

767
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 7: tough times occasionally. And you know, I think that Jason

768
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 7: is younger. I mean, I don't think that he is younger,

769
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 7: and just that's a different type of perspective on the

770
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 7: field in terms of, you know, what he's seeing out there.

771
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 7: But also you have a guy who just basically has

772
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 7: spent every fall weekend for the.

773
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 8: Last eighteen twenty years.

774
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 7: Now he gets home to be with his family, and

775
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 7: now he's got to go away again every weekend when

776
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 7: his kids are.

777
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 8: Starting to play football.

778
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 7: And Steve and Chris you know too well how many

779
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 7: things you miss when you're in this business, so navigating

780
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 7: a little bit of that. But Jason's fantastic. He studies

781
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 7: so much. I mean, we get on the plane after

782
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 7: a game and he's already watching film of the next game,

783
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 7: and and I really admire him and his work ethic.

784
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 8: And uh, you know, I've been lucky.

785
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 7: You know, I've mentioned Steve and Steve, but James Lofton

786
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 7: for six years, Matt Ryan, Tiki Barber, now, Jason mccordy,

787
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 7: and Charles Davis. I did a game with the Rich Gannon,

788
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 7: Adam Marshalletta. I've worked with some great people in the

789
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 7: NFL booth over the years.

790
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 8: So I feel lucky and we all get along really well.

791
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: One of those two One of the perks of being

792
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: your buddy is that when we go to like do

793
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: a game, or we go to the anywhere, if we

794
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: know if there's a college basketball game going on and call,

795
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: you get we did that last year at the time,

796
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: got like Butler tickets. Have you got any college basketball

797
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: on your docket here coming up? Have you been notified

798
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: that you're going to be working those.

799
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 7: Are you asking because you're curious or because you want tickets?

800
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: Oh, he's already looking for tickets.

801
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: It's all it's I'm looking out. I'm looking out for

802
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: my boy, Andrew catal On. It's any benefit that I

803
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: get is ancilliary. Are you working? Are you working college basketball?

804
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 7: I I will start college basketball in late January.

805
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 8: Do the NCAA tournament again. Just don't ask for masters tickets.

806
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 8: I can't help you.

807
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: On that one.

808
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with anyone on that one. So I got you.

809
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 3: He's already been anyway.

810
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: I got you big time.

811
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 3: Uh quickly before we let you go.

812
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: Andrew Josh Allen has kind of vaulted himself back into

813
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: the league MVP conversation. You know Stafford has been there

814
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 2: pretty much from the beginning and has a giant game tonight,

815
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: UH on Thursday Night Football against the Seahawks. And then

816
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 2: you know Drake May with the season he put together

817
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: up in New England, including a ten game winning streak,

818
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: is still part of that conversation. Also, you want to

819
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: you want to give me your your best handicapping of that,

820
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: and you know what you think, uh may still need

821
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 2: to happen maybe for Josh to stay in it here

822
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: in these final three games.

823
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

824
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 7: I was in Seattle last week for the Seahawks Philip

825
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 7: Rivers game, and that's a massive game tonight between the

826
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 7: Rams and the Seahawks, and I think a lot of

827
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 7: that could dictate, you know, what you think of.

828
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 8: Stafford and the Rams.

829
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 7: I mean, if they go on the road in a

830
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 7: short week without DeVante Adams, I mean, that's a pretty

831
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 7: big message that they'd be sending right there. I would

832
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 7: put Josh ahead of Drake May in the voting right now,

833
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 7: if you're just asking me, and I don't have a vote,

834
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 7: I think that Josh is the best player left who's

835
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 7: still available to play in the postseason. And people have

836
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 7: been asking me about you know, do you think home

837
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 7: field advantage will matter that much this year of the playoffs?

838
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 7: And I think it will for a younger quarterback. I

839
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 7: don't think it will matter much for the Bills obviously.

840
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 7: I think I know they'd rather be at home. But

841
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 7: if you've got to tell me that Josh has to

842
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 7: go on the road and win a couple of playoff games.

843
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 7: You know, obviously I believe that he can. So I

844
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 7: think there's a lot to be determined in terms of

845
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 7: the MVP race. But I still believe that Josh is

846
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 7: in good shape and that the Bills, you know, that

847
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 7: they're going to be in good shape as well.

848
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: All Right, Andrew, thanks for coming on.

849
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 9: Man.

850
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: It's great seeing you travel safe this weekend.

851
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 8: Great seeing you guys happy.

852
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: How right, we have a great broadcast, Andrew.

853
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 2: That's Andrew Catalan from the NFL on CBS, going to

854
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: broadcast his two hundredth game for the network on Sunday.

855
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: He's doing Raiders at Texans.

856
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: Raiders with the worst offense in football going against the

857
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: best defense in football.

858
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: They averaged fourteen points a game.

859
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: How many points you think they're gonna have against Houston

860
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: in Houston.

861
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: It happened in nineteen ninety nine, Jags at Cleveland, Jacksonville

862
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: had the best offense. Cleveland had the or vice versa.

863
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: Jacksonville had the worst offense. Cleveland had the best defense.

864
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: Yes, no, it was vice versas. They had the best defense.

865
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: It was twenty four to seven that game.

866
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 7: Wo.

867
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: So it wasn't an absolute blowout, but that's the last

868
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: time it happened. Nineteen ninety nine Jacksonville Cleveland. It was

869
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. Wow, Jacksonville beat Cleveland.

870
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: Okay, we got to take a break here.

871
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Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll get to the phone calls

872
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: at eight O three oh five fifty. So if you're

873
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Speaker 2: holding their stay there, we'll get to you when we return.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: Heating Up for Buffalo a red.

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Speaker 2: Zone offense, they go five for five in the red

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Speaker 2: zone last week before their final red zone possession is

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Speaker 2: a kneel down, so officially five for six, but for

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Speaker 2: all intents and purposes, a perfect five for five in

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Speaker 2: the red zone.

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Speaker 1: Last and that's where you want to be. That was

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Speaker 1: and it's they were excellent down there. That was a

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Speaker 1: difference in the game.

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Speaker 2: We know that was, yeah, and we know that Cleveland's

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Speaker 2: got a really good defense, but they're only middle of

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Speaker 2: the pack in red zone defense. They're sixteenth, giving up

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Speaker 2: touchdowns a little over fifty eight percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: I was kind of surprised to see that from Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: But they'll have opportunities this week too, so hopefully that

893
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Speaker 2: stays hot. Cooling down run defense, the Bills against the

894
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Speaker 2: Steelers and the Bengals really clamped down on the run game,

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Speaker 2: giving neither of those two opponents more than seventy yards

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Speaker 2: on the ground. Well, that went out the window last

897
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Speaker 2: week the two long runs by Traveon Henderson. Notwithstanding, they

898
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Speaker 2: still gave up about one hundred and forty yards on

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Speaker 2: the ground, not even counting those two runs. Those two

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Speaker 2: runs made it two hundred and forty six. That's got

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Speaker 2: to get fixed in a hurry, right.

902
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Speaker 1: They're ranked thirtieth against the rush per game and thirty

903
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Speaker 1: first in rushing yards per play long runs count YEP.

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Speaker 1: And you can't you can't let the guy out the

905
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Speaker 1: back end think about where that game would have been.

906
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Speaker 1: And you know, everybody says, what what if, what if?

907
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Speaker 1: And who knows what would have happened if the play

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Speaker 1: had been made. But if they I mean they snapped

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Speaker 1: that playoff the sixty five yard or they snapped it

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Speaker 1: off right at the point of attack. Somebody makes the

911
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Speaker 1: tackle right there. That second half of football is an

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Speaker 1: atrocity offensively for the New England Patriots. But that play

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Speaker 1: keeps him in, It gives them the lead back, gives

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Speaker 1: them some momentum. So you got to take it man.

915
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Speaker 1: That giving up a fifty two yarder and a sixty

916
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Speaker 1: five yarder is not the way to win games when

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Speaker 1: the Bills got it done, So they got.

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Speaker 3: To button that up this week. Going against a young.

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Speaker 2: Rookie running back who is a tackle breaker. Quin Shawn

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Speaker 2: Jenkins is a yards after initial contact player, just thick

921
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Speaker 2: build guys bounce off him. The first guy of the

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Speaker 2: ball Carrier's got to tackle a lot better this week

923
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Speaker 2: or you might see a similar type outcome to what

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Speaker 2: we saw last week.

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Speaker 3: So that is heating up and cooling down.

926
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Speaker 2: Got to get to the phones where we are going

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Speaker 2: to lead off with Mirron in Richmond.

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Speaker 3: Let me punch him up here. What's up, Miron.

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Speaker 10: Joe, Thanks for taking my call. I had a quick

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Speaker 10: question of the defensive line rotation in the past. You

931
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Speaker 10: guys that spoke about potentially playing like a speed rush

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Speaker 10: defense LINEA with a bunch of guys and that's that's

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Speaker 10: not something that I've seen that we utilized at all

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Speaker 10: this year. You know, maybe sliding Rousseau inside a Finessing

935
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Speaker 10: inside having bust at one end and then maybe having

936
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Speaker 10: Jamon's thom and a more twitch he kind of got

937
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Speaker 10: on the other end. Is that something that you think

938
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Speaker 10: we can utilize on obvious passing downs going to the

939
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Speaker 10: playoffs just as a as a new kind of look

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Speaker 10: for the opposing team, or do we not have the

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Speaker 10: personnel who are kind of quote unquote fast enough to

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Speaker 10: pull that off.

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Speaker 1: I think they're still looking for that recipe. We we

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Speaker 1: had conjectured that they would do that early on when

945
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Speaker 1: guys were healthy. Now Ed's out of it. Ed would

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Speaker 1: have been a part of that. H Hoyt would have

947
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Speaker 1: been a part of that. Yeah, now you're kind of there.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have four guys outside maybe Dion

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Speaker 1: Walker that they who play a lion shared, Rousseau plays

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Speaker 1: a ton, does Daque plays a lot although they're given

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Speaker 1: Dayquon wrote an extra rotation, you know, keep him fresh

953
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Speaker 1: because of his age. I mean so that I think

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Speaker 1: they're really trying to tread water.

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Speaker 2: I think their turbo package now is with linebackers, right

956
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Speaker 2: They used Dorian Williams and Mad Mulano as their speed

957
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Speaker 2: package it because they don't have the defensive lineman right now.

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Speaker 2: You don't have Hoyt, who was arguably your quickest twitch

959
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Speaker 2: pass rusher, and Hoyt Von Solomon's not a quick twitch player,

960
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Speaker 2: he's a power player.

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Speaker 1: So Hoyt was the guy that was kind of He's

962
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Speaker 1: one of those cerebral guys who was figuring out where

963
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Speaker 1: the offensive line was struggling and getting the rush to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of it. He was the guy calling the

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Speaker 1: stunts and all that stuff and was really good at

966
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Speaker 1: as you saw the two games he was there many

967
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Speaker 1: they were lights out for a minute.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 1: It really gave you some hope about Man, this is

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Speaker 1: really gonna work even without Ed in the lineup at

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Speaker 1: that point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the short answer is they're triaging that

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: Their turbo speed rush packers still linebackers.

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Speaker 1: They're still poor and test tubes into each other trying

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Speaker 1: to experiment.

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Speaker 3: Because of the lineup.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Quickly to Kevin and Hamburg before the break, what's up, Kevin, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: how you doing.

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Speaker 4: Thanks?

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Speaker 11: For taking my call. Two things I want to say.

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Speaker 11: What kind of winding against the Brown is a thorough

985
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 11: butt kicking. We need to getting ready for the defending

986
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Speaker 11: Super Bowl champs like we did when we got ready

987
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Speaker 11: for the Chiefs. We gave the Panther the colabor and

988
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Speaker 11: not barely survive. And the second thing I want to

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Speaker 11: say is about Miles Garrett. We know we'd go over

990
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Speaker 11: his big whatever he's trying to go for. Jackson Hawes

991
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Speaker 11: is supposed to be an awesome blocking tight end and

992
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Speaker 11: all that. Maybe have him help out and neutralize Garrett

993
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Speaker 11: even more than the lineman fort like the way in

994
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Speaker 11: the old days, the old tight ends that we're tough,

995
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Speaker 11: like Babarro would go against like Reggie White and the

996
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Speaker 11: Eagles when he stuffed like that, and Tory to give

997
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Speaker 11: him a couple of whacks, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 11: even more than regular Yeah, I could.

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Speaker 3: I'll go along with that.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If you're given Haws that job the whole game, you

1002
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Speaker 2: can't be predictable.

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Speaker 1: You can't put Hals over there every time because they'll

1004
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Speaker 1: just move move Miles to the other side of the

1005
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. I mean, they just put him over

1006
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: on the right end instead of the left end. They'll

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Speaker 1: do that so they can move Miles wherever they want

1008
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: as well. They can move him down inside as well

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Speaker 1: if they want.

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Speaker 12: So.

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Speaker 1: You can't really, you know, decide who your guy is.

1012
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: What you have to know is and I said this

1013
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: to the five presidents on my on my text loop,

1014
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett should think he lines up every play in

1015
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: the middle of an offensive line meeting for the Buffalo Bills.

1016
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: He should wake up in the middle of the O line.

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00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 4: Look up.

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00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: That's all he should see. You got to have at

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00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: least two guys on him and a third guy making

1020
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: sure you know where he is. That guy has to

1021
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: be the focal point of your pass protection every play.

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00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: You got to have at least four hands on him

1023
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: and maybe an elbow from a guy running by.

1024
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: He has had at least one sack in eight consecutive game.

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Speaker 1: He's one sack away from the all time tying the

1026
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: all time record by by JJ Watt.

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Speaker 3: Or it's TJ wat, it's TJ.

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Speaker 1: I think you're JJ.

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00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 3: I thought it was TJ.

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Speaker 1: Tj' is the Pittsburgh guy. JJ is the guy is TJ. Okay,

1031
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: there you go. He's one sack away from stray Hand

1032
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: and t J. Watt one yep.

1033
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: And he's got at least one sack in each of

1034
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Speaker 3: his last eight games. So there you go.

1035
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Speaker 1: This the whole defense is going to be trying to

1036
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Speaker 1: get him that sack or two to break the record.

1037
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Speaker 2: Yes, gotta take a break, speaking of breaking things, and

1038
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Speaker 2: we'll be back with the Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas.

1039
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: We'll catch up with him, talk a little James Cook

1040
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: with him as well as he's trying to catch Jonathan

1041
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 2: Taylor for the rushing title. Talk to him about that

1042
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: when we return here on One Bill's Live.

1043
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Speaker 6: Stay with us.

1044
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

1045
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 3: All right, here we are, hour number two on a Thursday.

1046
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, the Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas

1047
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: joining us in studio as he does.

1048
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: Every week here on One Bill's Live.

1049
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: And I wanted to start right off the bat them.

1050
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 2: James Cook is slowly but surely closing in on Jonathan Taylor.

1051
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: About a month ago, he was about one hundred and

1052
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: thirty yards behind him. He's cut the rushing lead to

1053
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: about eighteen yards. He's eighteen yards back now, now here's

1054
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: my only concern.

1055
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: My only concern is with Daniel Jones hurt.

1056
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: They're gonna be given Tailor the ball a ton, so

1057
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna get more carries than James and might be

1058
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: able to hold him off.

1059
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Speaker 13: Yeah, but Daniel Jones out there, Philip Rivers is there.

1060
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 13: They gotta have an eight to nine man front.

1061
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor.

1062
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Speaker 13: It's gonna be the toughest stretch of Jonathan Taylor's career

1063
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Speaker 13: these last couple of years.

1064
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Speaker 2: It's interesting that their carries are only one one off

1065
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Speaker 2: Taylor at two seventy two, James at two seventy one.

1066
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Speaker 13: And that has to be really two with Jonathan Taylor.

1067
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Speaker 13: Got has way more snaps than James Brook. James Cook.

1068
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Speaker 13: I would think that right, Like he's out there, He's

1069
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Speaker 13: out there the majority of the time.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's true. He does play on third down

1072
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Speaker 3: for them.

1073
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Speaker 4: I know that. Yeah. Hey, man, look James Cook for MVP.

1074
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Speaker 1: Baby, what about what about Offensive Player of the Year.

1075
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Speaker 4: I'll take it, yeah, yeah, I'll take.

1076
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Speaker 2: It because I think it's a good chance it goes

1077
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Speaker 2: to a running back again. This last year was Saquan Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's a good chance it goes to a

1079
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Speaker 2: running back again this year. Taylor is probably the front

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Speaker 2: runner right now. McCaffrey doesn't have the rushing yards, but

1081
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: he he's got a boatload of receiving yards out in

1082
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Speaker 2: San fran.

1083
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Speaker 13: Yeah, he was. He should probably get comeback Player of

1084
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Speaker 13: the Year.

1085
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Speaker 3: McCaffrey.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, okay, well yeah anyway, man, look, Cook's got to

1087
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Speaker 13: be in a discussion.

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00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 4: I don't care what nobody say. I'm on Cooks out.

1089
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Speaker 13: I mean, this guy is you know, they got off

1090
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 13: easy with paying him twelve million dollars. The guy's been bawling, man,

1091
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Speaker 13: and he this offensive line in him.

1092
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 4: They make they make this football team go. Yeah, they

1093
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Speaker 4: really do.

1094
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Speaker 2: I still don't think the offensive line has gotten its

1095
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: due credit this season and the job that Aaron Kromer's.

1096
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 3: Done with them.

1097
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 2: I know they got a little bit more credit when

1098
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: you know they executed the game plan they did in

1099
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh with two backup tackles.

1100
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: In the lineup.

1101
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 2: But I mean they manhandled that Patriots D line, which

1102
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 2: was not the case back in Week five.

1103
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: I mean they came and brought it.

1104
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the guy, they got their guys out there,

1105
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: the big defensive Williams.

1106
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: You take one guy out and that's it.

1107
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: It don't hurt that, It doesn't hurt you. I mean

1108
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: that they're their defense. Since Milton Williams went out, their

1109
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: defense fell off a cliff.

1110
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 3: Well, they're giving up a little over.

1111
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: It's he's having the same He had the same effect

1112
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: on them that Ted Washington did on the teams he

1113
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: played in. You take that guy off the field and

1114
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you can run a little bit.

1115
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: He's no Ted Washington, but he's good and that. But

1116
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: that's the kind of difference that one guy can make.

1117
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: Inside all of a sudden, everything's got to bounce. You

1118
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: can't go up inside the guards or tackles, and that's

1119
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: that's a big deal to deal. So I'm yeah, yeah, Bills,

1120
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: I know this. The Bills are gonna be able to

1121
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: run it on any team, including Philly, because they're versatile

1122
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: enough to do it. It's not gonna look the same

1123
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: against Philly as it did against say, Pittsburgh or anybody else,

1124
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, the teams are gonna have to bear up

1125
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: on and that's why they're gonna That's why the Bills

1126
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: score so much. I mean, that's We've been talking about

1127
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: it all day. Theirm the Bills score touchdowns. Man, they

1128
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: get it, they get the zone. Man, they go They're

1129
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: a problem. So it's that's got to be part of

1130
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: the recipe.

1131
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 13: Yeah, but I think really though, I mean, coming into

1132
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 13: this football game right here, I mean, man, let's not

1133
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 13: do this again and drop to their level of play.

1134
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 13: You know, they're what three and twelve team, and we

1135
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 13: can't be getting off to a slow start against a

1136
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 13: team like that. I mean, and they probably won't score either,

1137
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 13: but still you have to come out. You gotta come

1138
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 13: out and start performing better. And I think everybody in

1139
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 13: the first half at least, yeah, give me, give me something,

1140
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 13: a drive or two and then maybe a couple of.

1141
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 4: One, two, three points or whatever. Don't give me this, I.

1142
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: Mean, you don't. I think. The only the thing I

1143
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: worry about I do, and this is the same going

1144
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: into the Patriots game in the Cleveland game, is if

1145
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: the offense comes out and turns like they've done it,

1146
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: turn it over on the first series, right Uh, something

1147
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: bad happens or stumble out or get a bad penalty, whatever,

1148
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: stop themselves. This offense is built right now. If they

1149
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: don't get a bad off sides penalty or a holding penalty.

1150
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: They're hard to get off the field. And even in those,

1151
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: even this this last Patriots game where they were one

1152
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: two three and out, one two, three and out. They

1153
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: do it to themselves early. And that's to me, that's

1154
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: on the players. You it's not like coaching, game plan,

1155
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: play selection, none of that. It's on the players. You

1156
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: got to show up sharper than they've been able to.

1157
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely agree with that.

1158
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 13: You know, when when has we when have we taken

1159
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 13: in the opening drive and took it down a field

1160
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 13: of score.

1161
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 1: It's been a minute.

1162
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 3: Got to go back to mid season, mid seasons year.

1163
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: There was a stretch there in the middle of the

1164
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 2: season where they were leading the league in points scored

1165
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 2: on first possessions, right, and then all of a sudden,

1166
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: the slow first half cropped up around week eight or nine.

1167
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it hasn't gotten.

1168
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were.

1169
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: They were really good at it early in this season.

1170
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: They did it consistently through you know that four to

1171
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: oh start, even four stars, even into the two and

1172
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: even into the plot where they were going to win loss,

1173
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: win loss. Then it started to it started to get.

1174
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 13: Them and and look it doesn't have to be a

1175
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 13: touchdown in the field goal every time. Just move the

1176
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 13: possession of the balls down the field, you know, get

1177
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 13: that advantage to where okay, let's pin them back at

1178
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 13: the ten year old line instead of you know, putting

1179
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 13: and they get it at the thirty other forty What

1180
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 13: have you.

1181
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 2: Thought them about how the passing game has been diversified

1182
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 2: in recent weeks utilizing the tight ends and the backs

1183
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: of a ton. Last week, for example, just as the

1184
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,959
Speaker 2: most recent example, Josh has nineteen completions in the game. Yeah,

1185
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: thirteen of them go to backs and tight ends, and

1186
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: they have three receiving touchdowns among all of them. Like,

1187
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: just explain what you think that does to an opposing

1188
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: defense when they see a passing game that diversifies in

1189
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: that way, because the production just hasn't been there from

1190
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 2: the receivers.

1191
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: So Joe Brady has pivoted. Yeah, and here we are.

1192
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1193
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 13: I think it's it frustrates the defense because you're wanting

1194
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 13: to prepare for these wide receivers downfield or whatever, but

1195
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 13: you're paying now you've got to prepare for the tightens

1196
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 13: and the back. So it's like a whole new system

1197
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 13: that You're going at, like, who do we choose to

1198
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 13: take away from this system?

1199
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,479
Speaker 4: Are we double teaming in the wide outs?

1200
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 13: Are we double team the tight ends or the back

1201
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 13: So it it creates a lot of problem inn and

1202
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 13: when you look at throughout the season, I mean it's

1203
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 13: kind of been that way. It hasn't been any particular

1204
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 13: like the wide receivers got.

1205
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 4: Twenty five or thirty targets. It hasn't been like that.

1206
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: Is there Anything's the only guy that's really produced there

1207
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: on a relatively consistent basis at the receiver position.

1208
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: I'll bet I'll ask both of you this because I've

1209
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: been thinking about it. The Bills are doing it because

1210
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: to us, it's like you kind of evolved to that

1211
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: because those are the guys that have been productive, Knox, Kincaid,

1212
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: Cook and Khalis Shakir, the inside close, you know, the

1213
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: slot guy. Could there be something to the fact because

1214
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: we know this was this was true for the Bengals,

1215
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: But is there something to the fact that all these

1216
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: teams around the league go out and get that CB

1217
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: one and the CB two and they're they're out on

1218
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: the edges and they put all their you know, they

1219
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: put some assets on talent, and they pick talent, and

1220
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: they sput and they spend the money on the outside.

1221
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: So now you're hitting them from the you know what

1222
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're seeing the guys. These are the guys

1223
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: that you know, the secondary athletes. You know, is the teams,

1224
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: the rosters are built defensively to guard the edges because

1225
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: you're every year, every week these guys are playing, you know,

1226
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb and Jamar Chase and t Higgins and Justin

1227
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: Jefferson and Puka Nakua and all these big time receivers.

1228
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, teams are building their defenses that way,

1229
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: a little bit like it was where everybody was built

1230
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: to run and cover defensively. Now teams, you know, Derrick

1231
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: Henry now James Cook and our offensive line teams are

1232
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: starting to bully him a little bit because they're light

1233
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: up front, because they're built to cover. Is there any Yeah,

1234
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1235
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know exactly what I mean.

1236
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 13: It's like, you know, ten to fifteen years ago, you

1237
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 13: needed pass rushers, right, you needed pass rushers, and now

1238
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 13: you got all these receivers or whatever, and we don't

1239
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 13: have one, right we have I mean at the beginning

1240
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 13: of the New England game.

1241
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 4: I mean we were lining up already in two tight

1242
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 4: is right.

1243
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 13: I mean that's how the game started off and with

1244
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 13: it and they they weren't gonna even mess with it.

1245
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 4: It's going to.

1246
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 13: Work because they have that running game, and I think

1247
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 13: this offensive line is really I think their best job

1248
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 13: probably was against New England as far as pass blocking,

1249
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 13: and I mean the one that he threw to Knox

1250
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 13: was I mean, the whole front four was on the

1251
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 13: left side of the field. Nobody was even around Josh.

1252
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 13: So I think with them doing all and you talk

1253
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 13: about going back to that phrase, everybody eat, everybody's eating

1254
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 13: right now, everybody, And it could be the wide receivers

1255
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 13: group this coming up week.

1256
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 4: You never know.

1257
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 2: What do you think of Joe Brady's ability to kind

1258
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: of play off some of their tendencies, Like the success

1259
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 2: of the Bill's run game is something that I think

1260
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: Joe Brady is using as a tendency breaker to keep

1261
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: defenses off balance.

1262
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: Like you look at that couple of plays.

1263
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 2: In the red zone last week where they're using that

1264
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: play action and everybody's expecting Cook to run it in

1265
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 2: from five yards out and all of a sudden, Josh

1266
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: is rolling out and he's throwing it out to Knox

1267
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 2: as he makes a run across the goal line to

1268
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: the pylon.

1269
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: How has Joe? Are you happy with how Joe Brady.

1270
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: Has kind of used some of Buffalo's own tendencies against

1271
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: the opposing defense.

1272
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 4: I'm very happy with it.

1273
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 13: I mean I haven't really seen anything like Joe Brady

1274
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 13: in the last couple of weeks, right, I mean, because

1275
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 13: he is.

1276
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 4: I think he's done an outstates.

1277
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 13: It haven't been much to complain about it, and I

1278
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 13: think he's done an outstanding job of really just you know,

1279
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 13: with with what he has, He's using the best of

1280
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 13: his ability. He's looking at the defense and seeing who

1281
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 13: can I take advantage of, whether it's a defensive lineman

1282
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 13: that always crashes down or is it a linebacker that

1283
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 13: flows to the flat very well, I mean just doing

1284
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 13: different things with these tight ends.

1285
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 4: And I mean you're up there and in some of

1286
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 4: these passing plays, I mean you see the wide receivers

1287
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 4: right next to the tight end.

1288
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 13: Like it's almost gonna be like it's gonna be a

1289
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 13: run play and they're gonna have to block and everything.

1290
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 13: The wide receiver has been done an excellent job of

1291
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 13: running blocking downfield for a lot of these runs that

1292
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 13: James Cook and the rest of the running backs have

1293
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 13: been getting.

1294
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 4: So you know, I'm happy with it.

1295
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 13: I think everybody's happy with I mean, we continue to

1296
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 13: score thirty thirty five points a game, we're gonna be

1297
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 13: hard to beat. Then just give it given that, like

1298
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 13: our defense, let's score.

1299
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 4: Let the scored ten points after they scored twenty one.

1300
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: We're still just We're third in the league and scoring

1301
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: per game, behind LA and Detroit. But that going five

1302
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: out of five in the red zone last weekends New England,

1303
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: you know that was that was big. And I think

1304
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, this Cleveland defense, it's Miles Garrett is the centerpiece,

1305
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: no question about it. But it's not like they're bereft

1306
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: of talent around him. I mean, it's not just him

1307
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: and a bunch of guys. They've got some guys out

1308
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: there too. So it'll be interesting to see whether our

1309
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: defense can rise up, hold them off the scoreboard, and

1310
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, go from there. I mean, Buffalo is obviously

1311
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: the better team in this matchup, but we've seen it

1312
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,479
Speaker 1: too lot. That ain't enough.

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01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I mean it's gonna be a big

1314
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 13: game for the offense again, you know, especially in the

1315
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 13: passing down. I mean, you got a guy here that

1316
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 13: he's been in that Jim Schwartz defense to why nine

1317
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 13: now for the last six or seven years. And we've

1318
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 13: seen some of that Jim Schwartz defense when he was

1319
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:05,959
Speaker 13: defensive coordinated here.

1320
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: So some of the best sax seasons in team history.

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01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 4: I mean, we had like three or four guys that

1322
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 4: had all ten sacks.

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Speaker 13: Guy, and that's kind of you know, what they have

1324
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 13: with their defense. That's the type of defense that he

1325
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 13: plays all the time. And I think one of the

1326
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 13: most under one of the underrated guys is Denzel Ward.

1327
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 13: I think he's been an outstanding cornerback you know, for

1328
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 13: them throughout this and his entire career for the Cleveland

1329
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 13: It's just that that team has not gone anywhere or

1330
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 13: done anything. And you got a really top player in

1331
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 13: Miles Garrett who creates problems for everybody, but there are

1332
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 13: some lapses on his part where you know, talking to

1333
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 13: Bruce Smith a couple of years ago about him pursue

1334
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 13: pursuing the play away from him, like he doesn't Yeah,

1335
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 13: he's not going high motor all the time as to

1336
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 13: where Bruce would Bruce would make that tackle.

1337
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: On the other side of the field, you know, And

1338
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: we didn't get enough credit for that.

1339
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 4: I know he did not. Bruce was al.

1340
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: Man guy. Yeah, I loved him for that.

1341
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: And I know that a lot of offensive coaches say,

1342
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: when you have a pass rusher of Miles Garrett's caliber,

1343
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: sometimes you run right at him and make him do

1344
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: the part of his job that he doesn't like. He

1345
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: likes rushing the passer, maybe he doesn't like stopping the

1346
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: run as much. The problem is, Miles Garrett's two hundred

1347
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: ninety five damn pounds. He's not this two hundred and

1348
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: fifty five pounds speed guy off the edge.

1349
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:32,919
Speaker 4: He's ninety five.

1350
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: You can't single him and think you're, yeah, we got him,

1351
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: you know him on a rundowns even so, Yeah, it's

1352
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: you gotta double him on pass downs and or have

1353
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: the ball come out really.

1354
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 13: Fast, right exactly so we'll see. I mean, it's like

1355
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 13: I can see it's a good matchup for us. I

1356
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 13: guesst a team that we should that we should beat,

1357
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 13: that we should dominate from start to finish, you know, so,

1358
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,959
Speaker 13: and just don't what do you, what are.

1359
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: Your thoughts about if the Bills go into Cleveland and

1360
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: Shadure Sanders taking snaps for them, And I mean we knew.

1361
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 3: John has a lot of success against rookie quarterback.

1362
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 1: They had four guys in camps. They traded the guy

1363
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: that was their opening day starter and Joe Flack go

1364
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: away to clear the decks a little bit so they

1365
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: could start evaluating the other guys. Dylan Gabriel he couldn't

1366
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: last because he got hurt. Then Shaduur was in and

1367
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: here we go. He's been a little up and down,

1368
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: but he's been steady at least and made some good throws.

1369
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 13: Well, I'll tell you what, from looking at some of

1370
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 13: the film and some of the highlights, it could be

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01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 13: an awesome day for our past rushers.

1372
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 4: I can tell you that right now.

1373
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because I think.

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01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 13: It's because of their old I think it's because his

1375
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 13: injury really really bad and.

1376
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 3: So like they've lost both their tackles.

1377
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 4: Ye should do it.

1378
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 13: I mean, he's you know, I think from where he

1379
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 13: came fifth round draft pick and how they treated him

1380
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 13: the first ten weeks or whatever it was, and you

1381
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 13: know he still comes out and through for three hundred

1382
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 13: and sixty yards or whatever he has, you know, had

1383
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 13: a couple last couple of weeks.

1384
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 4: You know, they're still searching, and but he believes in himself.

1385
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 13: He believes that he could, that he's gonna be a

1386
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 13: top quarterback in this league. And I think that comes

1387
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 13: along with being from who his dad is, Dehaon Sanders.

1388
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 13: I mean, he has the confidence and the beliefs that

1389
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 13: he can go out there and win a football game.

1390
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is playing.

1391
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is a good deep ball thrower. That's like

1392
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 3: one of his best assets.

1393
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: His problem is that short to intermedia game. And after

1394
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: watching the way Bobby Bavage and Sean McDermott had Drake

1395
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: may crossed up in the second half last.

1396
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 3: Week, right, you would think that a guy that's even less.

1397
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 2: Experienced might be even more confused at times padding the

1398
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: ball back there or running around, because that's one thing

1399
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: Shador will do. He wants to make the big play

1400
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: so badly. He'll hold on to the ball too long

1401
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 2: and scamper around and then before he knows that he's

1402
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,439
Speaker 2: on the ground and it's a loss of nine.

1403
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 13: Well, yeah, they're still confusing by giving him the wrong

1404
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 13: play tag to go out there on the football field.

1405
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, good luck with that. Unbelievable.

1406
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: Did you read about that about the having the wrong Yeah.

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01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 4: Come on, head coach the offensive coordinated to I mean.

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not.

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski's not calling the plays anymore. Tommy Reese is

1410
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 2: doing that the o C.

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01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 3: So they do have.

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01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 2: They have had a new play caller the last few weeks.

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01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: We'll see if it makes a difference for them. On Sunday,

1414
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,560
Speaker 2: Bills are eleven and a half point road favorites.

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01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 13: Yeah, they gotta get they gotta get after They gotta

1416
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 13: get after it right away.

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01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 4: I mean from the start. I mean I'm talking.

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01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: They don't have to win by eleven and a half.

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01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: All I gotta do is win.

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01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 4: I want them to win by a comfortable margin. Yeah,

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01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 4: that's our.

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01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: Topic of the day. What do you think that Bill's

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01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: win needs to look like? You think it needs to

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01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 1: be comfy? Uh?

1425
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 4: Thirty one seven?

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01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're looking for a Carolina Panthers Week six.

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01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 4: Game pretty much? Yeah?

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01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: Before we go, we want to remind you folks out there,

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01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: it's only two home games left in the regular season

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01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: at high Mark Stadium, and these two guys were nice

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Speaker 2: enough to join me for a video series we've put

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Speaker 2: together on The Bill's YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Channel called Games to Remember.

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Speaker 2: Thurman's episode, episode four is up right now this week

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Speaker 2: on the Bill's YouTube channel. Talk to Thurman about the

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01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,719
Speaker 2: final AFC Championship game of those nineties teams when Thurm

1438
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: went off for one hundred and eighty six and three touchdowns.

1439
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 2: Talk to Steve the previous week about the eighty eight

1440
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 2: divisional playoffs. You can go to The Bill's YouTube channel

1441
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 2: and check that out. Just look up Games to Remember

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01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 2: in the search window. Some interesting conversations with the field

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01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: behind us across the way. If you're too young to

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01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 2: remember some of those games, check it out. It's worth

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01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: it's worth checking out. And these guys give some special

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01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: insight on exactly what went down in some of those

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Speaker 2: games that you may not have heard of before, So

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Speaker 2: be sure to check that out.

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Speaker 3: Games to Remember, and guys, thanks for doing that for us.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate it.

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 2: We'll take a break here, Steve and I'll be back

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01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,599
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Speaker 2: This week's winter is Jim, who asks how challenging is

1465
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: it to field a punt, especially on a windy day,

1466
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: at the same time trying to not get your head

1467
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 2: taken off by a gunner. Curious of the nuances to this,

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01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 2: thanks Steve, Go Bills.

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Speaker 1: It's not easy. It's the worst job. I said this

1470
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: yesterday's first job in football, because the whole team could

1471
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: be playing like Gangbusters and you could muff a punt

1472
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: and it's all over right. That's that's the problem.

1473
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:31,759
Speaker 4: So it's.

1474
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: Every guy who's back to return a punt in the

1475
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 1: NFL is a better athlete than anybody you've ever met

1476
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 1: for most fans, and that's just that's the job qualifier

1477
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: that gets you on the field. That doesn't make you special.

1478
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: You're not special anymore, right, You're just another guy out

1479
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 1: there who's catching punts. The difference is in the decision

1480
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: making process, and knowing when to feel the punt and

1481
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: when not to feel the punt is crucial. How to

1482
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: feel it, whether they're catch it all those decisions are

1483
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 1: really the part and parcel of what makes one guy

1484
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: great and another guy just a guy, because they can

1485
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: both run fast, catch the ball, and make guys misbreak tackles,

1486
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: all of that to outrun people. They can all do that,

1487
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: but the difference is they're decision making and the ability

1488
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 1: to catch the thing. There's priorities in special teams. The

1489
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: first priority is, no matter what happens at the end

1490
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: of this play, priority number one is for our team

1491
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: to have the ball, and that means whether you're kicking

1492
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: it away to cover the punt or kicking the kickoff

1493
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: to the other team, the priority is getting it back right.

1494
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 1: Priority number two is field position. You gotta have the

1495
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: ball and then have it in the best place possible.

1496
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: So if you can get a return and get it

1497
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: up the field, that's the best. Get a touchdown is

1498
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: even better, but the different But the priority number one

1499
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: is just make sure you finish the play with the ball.

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01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: Everything that happens after that is gravy and that means

1501
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: for the covering team the field position is. It's not

1502
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: just about making the tackle after the guy catches it,

1503
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: but it's also from it's also drawn a penalty because

1504
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 1: he gets that tacked on right. It's all the stuff

1505
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,879
Speaker 1: you can add on to that play that makes it crucial,

1506
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: and it all starts with having the right guy back

1507
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: there who can make the right decision, who can make

1508
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 1: sure that your team has the ball at the end

1509
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: of the play and gives you the best chance for

1510
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: field position after he catches it. It is zero fun

1511
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: returning punts in the National Football League.

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01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 3: Zero that.

1513
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: Listen. I was an eleven year veteran in the National

1514
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: Football League. I was the pre eminent special teams player

1515
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: maybe at that point, maybe of all time. Bruce de

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01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: Haven came to me in my eleventh year. Midway through

1517
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: the eleventh year. He goes, Hey, I need you to

1518
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: return punts this week. All right because we got we

1519
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: have some injuries. And I go, yeah, okay, Bruce, I

1520
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: did it. This was on a Wednesday. I couldn't sleep

1521
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: Wednesday night, I couldn't sleep Thursday night.

1522
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 4: I was.

1523
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: I was beside myself with stress about having that job

1524
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: dropped on my lap, knowing idiots like me were coming

1525
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: down to get me, right I was. I literally could

1526
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: not sleep two nights during that week after he had

1527
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: told me I did it. And then I took a

1528
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: deep breath. I said, wait a minute, wait minute, wait

1529
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,520
Speaker 1: a minute. Let me just get my mind around this. Okay,

1530
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: this is a chance for me to show off. This

1531
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: is a chance for me to like, this is an opportunity,

1532
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: this is let's go. I'm gonna take you know what.

1533
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you know what I mean. Then I

1534
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: turned it around, said I talked myself into it. Then

1535
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm fine, I'm fine. I'm gonna

1536
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 1: be fine. But man, I'm telling you, for a for

1537
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 1: a hot minute, it took me a minute to transfer

1538
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: over to being a return man again rather than the

1539
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: guy head hunting. It took it took me a couple

1540
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: of days. So it's not it's not a little thing.

1541
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 1: It's the most stressful thing you can think about it.

1542
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: And I because I knew better than anybody what was

1543
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: on my mind as a coverage guy. It was a

1544
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: it was a it was a death trap being a

1545
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: return and it took me literally, I'm I'm not exaggerating.

1546
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep Wednesday night or Thursday night of that week.

1547
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: I was. I was worried. And then you know, I

1548
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: kind of deep breath and I was like, you know what,

1549
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: I could really help. I could really help more if

1550
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing let's go and I and I talked myself

1551
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 1: into and I actually I did really well after that

1552
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: was fine, But I'm telling you, you gotta have a

1553
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: message with your mind. That's like an understatement. I was,

1554
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: I was the pre eminent maybe of all time, the

1555
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: pre eminent special teams player of all time, and I

1556
01:15:57,439 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: was sick.

1557
01:15:58,479 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1558
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: It's oh yeah, fair, It ain't easy.

1559
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: Good question there for excuse me, mister Tasker. We are

1560
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: discussing Bill's Browns and asking you today what kind of

1561
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 2: win do you need to see against the Browns from

1562
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: your bills eight oh three h five fifty one eight

1563
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number to

1564
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 2: get on board. Can also hit us up on the

1565
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 2: tweet sheet of One Bills Live. But let's go to

1566
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: Rick in California next.

1567
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 3: What's up Rick?

1568
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 5: Any, Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thank you so much for taking

1569
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 5: the call. Yes, sir, so I do have a little

1570
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 5: concern about this game, I'll be honest, because in the

1571
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 5: last couple of years, whenever we face an inferior opponent

1572
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 5: where we are double digit favored over them, we always

1573
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 5: seem to find the ways to screw ourselves as far

1574
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 5: as like penalties or turnovers, you know, and stuff like that.

1575
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 5: So I honestly believe that, you know, we got to

1576
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 5: buckle down here because on a game like this, everybody's

1577
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 5: gonna be a little more relaxed knowing that, you know,

1578
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 5: the Browns. Yeah, they might have a decent defense, you know,

1579
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 5: but we always seem to take our foot off the

1580
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 5: gas a little bit against teams like this. I am

1581
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 5: a little worried about that. But and also I don't

1582
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 5: know if you guys already talking about this, but is

1583
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 5: Ed Oliver still on the verge to come back if

1584
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:07,480
Speaker 5: we make the playoffs?

1585
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1586
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 3: Postseason? Postseason is the designated return time.

1587
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: He's before And I'll say this about Ed. Brownie and

1588
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: I are banging around the building, we go for coffee.

1589
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 1: So Ed's working hard at it. Yeah, he's trying to

1590
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: get back. He's working really hard at being ready. You

1591
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: can imagine his desire to get back on the field

1592
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: for this run, right, But you know there's only so

1593
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 1: much he can do. The last I heard, the first

1594
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: possible game is the wild card round. That's another month.

1595
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: So well, it's because that's generally deemed to be a

1596
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: ten to fourteen week injury. Last year, Milano missed thirteen

1597
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 2: weeks before he came back from a bicep injury, and he.

1598
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: Wasn't the same even when he came back.

1599
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 2: Ed did it in Week six at Carolina. So thirteen

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01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: weeks from week six, Week nineteen.

1601
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 3: Wild card week.

1602
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 4: There you go.

1603
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: So it's probably gonna be first postseason week for Ed

1604
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 2: if if everything goes according to plan, maybe it's a

1605
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 2: week sooner.

1606
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1607
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see. Eight oh three, five

1608
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: point fifty one, eighty eight, five fifty two, five point

1609
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 2: fifty those are the numbers to join us. You let

1610
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: us know what kind of win you need to see

1611
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 2: from the Bills this Sunday against the Browns.

1612
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 3: Uh, let's crack open the tweet sheet real quick here.

1613
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: Tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the

1614
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 2: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Where MBCB says,

1615
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 2: get off to a fast start for once and coast

1616
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 2: to a win. Stop relying on fourth quarter comebacks. No

1617
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 2: more first down handoffs to cook to start. Everyone knows

1618
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 2: that play well they ran first down of the game

1619
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: was a play action to Cooks and he didn't catch it.

1620
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: Didn't he bobble it was wasn't it didn't they That

1621
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: was two weeks ago.

1622
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 3: Two weeks ago. Yeah, that was to Knox right thirty

1623
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 3: two yards.

1624
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get it. Everybody knows that. That's when

1625
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: you take advantage of him. That's what the Bills have

1626
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: done the last couple of weeks. They fake a handoff

1627
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: on first down and go over the top. It work,

1628
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: except for Cook's bobble it twice and got out of bounds.

1629
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 2: JG says, any win, this is the type of game

1630
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 2: the Bills usually drag through. After some big wins, they

1631
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 2: sometimes drag their feet. Just win, baby, That's what I said.

1632
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 2: You gotta adopt the Al Davis mantra. Doesn't have to

1633
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 2: be pretty. We're not looking for style points. Just win

1634
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: the game. This is like March Madness mode. Now survive

1635
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 2: in advance, win the game, stack another win, stay in

1636
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: that wild card race at the very top, and maybe

1637
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,720
Speaker 2: New England slips up and you benefit even more. That's

1638
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 2: that's what you gotta do. Just put your head down,

1639
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 2: keep winning games. Pick your head up at the end

1640
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 2: of it. See where you are. Dean says, complete team

1641
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: win and allan out by the start of the fourth

1642
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 2: quarter to be ready for Philadelphia. He wants Josh Holden

1643
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: a clipboard and with a baseball hat on.

1644
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: It's almost it's almost a no win situation. The Bills

1645
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: are supposed to win. They're gonna if they win by

1646
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: a narrow margin. They played down to their compet tian.

1647
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: No matter how good or bad the Cleveland Browns are,

1648
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: or how good they're or bad they play, and if

1649
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: they blow this team out, there will still be some

1650
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: criticism for play selection or bad play here or there.

1651
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: It could have been an even bigger win or there's

1652
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: all of that going on too. And that's exactly what

1653
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: or at best, that's how it should have been, right.

1654
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: So I've been in locker rooms like this, and it's true.

1655
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: Hard to dredge up the passion for a game that

1656
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: you can't win. You know what I'm saying. You win

1657
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: the game on the scoreboard, and you still don't win

1658
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: because you were supposed to do that.

1659
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 4: Right.

1660
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 3: Let's go to Joe in Hamburg next. What's up, Joe?

1661
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 9: Hey, are you doing good? Steve watching in the nineties,

1662
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 9: and just to comparing the nineties to the two thousands bills,

1663
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 9: I just I have a special feeling that what you're

1664
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 9: seeing in front of us, what's transpiring, is something that's

1665
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 9: just as special.

1666
01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 8: As the nineties.

1667
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 4: And a win is a win. Just I'll hang up and.

1668
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: Listen, Okay, a win is a win. So not looking

1669
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: for anything in particular.

1670
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of I'll say this too, and

1671
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: we can all people of a certain vintage can go

1672
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 1: back and remember the times in this stadium as we

1673
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: close it out. You know, the comeback game, the seventy

1674
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: seven second game, the Sunday night games, all that championship games.

1675
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 1: We all remember those moments. But I'll say this too,

1676
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, the nineties were great and there was a

1677
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. And I tell people my line is

1678
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: when people come up and say what you just said,

1679
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: Joe is hey. It was fun while it lasted right

1680
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: the nineties, that team back then with Jim and Thurman

1681
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: and Bruce and Andre. It was fun while it lasted.

1682
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 1: It was great. We loved it. The fans loved it.

1683
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: The fans loved the players. The players love the fans,

1684
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: and we still do. This current team has had I

1685
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: get choked up talking about this. Has had some phenomenal moments,

1686
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: some unbelievable, joyous moments. I'll never forget Taron Johnson's pick

1687
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: six against Baltimore. I was doing the radio at that

1688
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: time because of COVID, and it was the accomplishment of

1689
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: my life to keep my mouth shut so Murph could

1690
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: make the call. I would you know what I mean?

1691
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: The moments when they when Sean McDermott and Tyrod Taylor

1692
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: broke the drought with a with a tank roster. Was

1693
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 1: called a tank roster this three weeks ago, when they

1694
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 1: when they were ten down halfway through the third fourth

1695
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: quarter and now they're eleven up, same same as one,

1696
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 1: same as the seventy seven second game. And then Week one,

1697
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: fifteen down with four men or four and a half

1698
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: minutes to go against Baltimore and count the Rams game.

1699
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: The twenty twenty game against the Rams, when Josh stiff

1700
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: arms Aaron Donald off him like a little throws it,

1701
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: gets a penalty for face masking Aaron Donald and because

1702
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,799
Speaker 1: of the extra down, wins the game. On that series

1703
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: to he throws a little soft pass to Tyler Croft

1704
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: in the corner of the moments like that, Yes, this

1705
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: team is. I know there's never we haven't there haven't

1706
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: been a Super Bowl. I know they haven't won a championship.

1707
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: I know all of that, but man, oh man, you

1708
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: talking about moments that that move you as a fan

1709
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: base and as a person, and you're always gonna remember then.

1710
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: These guys have got a ton of them, and I've

1711
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: loved all of them. And I know this. Bruce and

1712
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: Jim and Andre and Thurna, all the old guy Marv,

1713
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: they have loved him just as much too. You'll never

1714
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: find a more passionate group of fans than the guys

1715
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: from the nineties cheering for these jokers. Uh, we're all

1716
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,559
Speaker 1: in it together, and it has been that has been

1717
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: the biggest gift to me and the old guys, is

1718
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,799
Speaker 1: how good these guys are and how much the fans

1719
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: love them, and how much these guys love these fans.

1720
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: It has been an absolute joy ride. So I'm with

1721
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: you one hundred percent, Joe. The nineties were great, and

1722
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,639
Speaker 1: they were great, but man, this group here has been

1723
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: just as fun, even though they haven't gone to the

1724
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: super Bowl yet.

1725
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: Got to take a quick break here. We'll try to

1726
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 2: squeeze in a phone call or too when we get back.

1727
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 2: On a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. Stay with us,

1728
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 2: all right, back for one more segment here on a

1729
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,880
Speaker 2: Thursday edition of One Bills Live, And I'm gonna zip

1730
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 2: back to the phones and talk to Mark and Tanawanda.

1731
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 3: What's up Mark, Good.

1732
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 14: Morning, guys. Thanks t having me on afternoon. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah,

1733
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 14: I just want to see ah. I want to see

1734
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 14: a McDermott win. What I mean by that is the

1735
01:24:54,520 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 14: defensive coach Shudor Sanders. I don't think is good brown

1736
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 14: stink Sean mcdermoty's defense. He had to win this game early.

1737
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 14: Let this be a Josh Allen clock management, not superhero,

1738
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 14: you know, Josh Allen performance.

1739
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 5: Get out of here.

1740
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 14: With the win, That's what I want to see. Just

1741
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 14: a total defensive blowout is what I'm looking for. But Mary,

1742
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 14: Christmas to you both. Thanks for having me on Fellows.

1743
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah you better.

1744
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 3: Christmas to you too.

1745
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: You know, there's an interesting mark that Sean McDermott can

1746
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: achieve with a victory on Sunday. If the Bills win

1747
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 2: the game on Sunday, Sean McDermott will pass Hall of

1748
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: Fame head coach Paul Brown for the most head coaching wins.

1749
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 3: In a head coach's first eight seasons.

1750
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,879
Speaker 2: Is it eight seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenties one fourth nine seasons?

1751
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 2: Most wins in his first nine seasons, They are tied

1752
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 2: right now, ninety six each. He would pass Paul Brown

1753
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 2: against the team that he founded, the Cleveland Browns. So yeah,

1754
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: just little note there for Sunday.

1755
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

1756
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: That's very cool.

1757
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 3: Let's go quickly to Mark in Rochester before we're out

1758
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 3: of here. What's up Mark?

1759
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 12: Thanks for taking my call, gentlemen. I've been reading a

1760
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 12: lot of stuff about this being a trap game, and

1761
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 12: it has all the lookings of a trap game. But

1762
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 12: I think with this team this year, they've been through

1763
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 12: a couple of these this year, and I think, what's

1764
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 12: that stake now is a lot bigger than what would

1765
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 12: that stake in the middle of the year, the first

1766
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 12: quarter of the year. And I think these guys know,

1767
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 12: you know, there's no time to mess up this. This

1768
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 12: can't be a trap game for these guys. So I'm

1769
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 12: expecting those guys just to come out full board and

1770
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 12: just lay it to them, you know, and take them

1771
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 12: behind the woodshet as you would say, and then real

1772
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 12: quick and Steve correct me if I'm wrong. But weren't

1773
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 12: you the only Special Teams player to win Pro Bowl MVP?

1774
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still am. Yeah, that's great, Yeah, that's right.

1775
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 12: That alone should get you win the Hall of Fame.

1776
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I appreciate pumped the brakes on that.

1777
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: I mean that I made two plays in one game

1778
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: or three plays in one game that to give me

1779
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: the MVP. It should take more than that to get

1780
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,759
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Well, let me say, still,

1781
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: it is what it is. Yes, uh, it is what

1782
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: it is.

1783
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 3: Forced.

1784
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, look at the.

1785
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 2: They got forced to fumble, blocked to kick, you know. Yeah,

1786
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 2: so you got everybody in the AFC more money for

1787
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 2: winning the game.

1788
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:33,200
Speaker 1: That that's true. This is the play that everybody looks at.

1789
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 1: It's Albert, Shelley and Dion are getting me, and they

1790
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: they rolled me up pretty good, and I just kept

1791
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 1: playing and forced this humble. The thing that gets lost

1792
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: in all of this, we threw a pick on the

1793
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 1: next next play a way down the field, so we

1794
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 1: got an arm punt out of it. Yeah, but then

1795
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: this is yeah, Elbert really lit me up there, and

1796
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: then Dion just kind of stopped and started watching and

1797
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: I ran, Uh, I ran Bailey down and got the

1798
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: That's the play that everybody because I got got cartwheeled

1799
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 1: and then got back up and made that. And then

1800
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: later on I went between Reggie White and Mike Singletary

1801
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: blocked this kick from Morton Anderson, who still brings it

1802
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: up to me, you're not supposed to block kicks in

1803
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, and uh, that's gave us the lead

1804
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: and we actually got it to overtime and wanted in overtime. Yeah.

1805
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: That that I still think about that block kick in

1806
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: that game because I went because I went between Reggie

1807
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: and Mike Singletaire, pretty big names. Yeah, right. And then

1808
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: this play right at the start of overtime. I tackled

1809
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 1: Dion and got him and made him start from like

1810
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 1: the ten yard line, so that was that was a plus.

1811
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 3: It's a good day, for sure.

1812
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 4: It's a good day.

1813
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 2: I think Mark in Rochester's right though. The Bills tend

1814
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 2: to play their best football in December in the regular

1815
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 2: season because the picture is clearer as to what they

1816
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: need and what they need to remind themselves of is

1817
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 2: whether Cleveland's a good team or.

1818
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 3: A bad team.

1819
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 2: This is an opportunit, opportunity to get another a FC victory, Yeah,

1820
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: which is the first tie break in the wild card

1821
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 2: after one loss record for seating. You need as many

1822
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 2: conference wins as you can get, right.

1823
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: You're chasing something tangible that has nothing to do with

1824
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 1: this game, and that helps. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1825
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 1: It's not just about getting another win or you know,

1826
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: beating the Steelers out of division or whatever way back

1827
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: in Week eight or whatever it was, any of those games.

1828
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,799
Speaker 1: So it's yes, you can you can sense the importance

1829
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: of these games as you close up.

1830
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 2: I mean, you could make the argument that this week's

1831
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: game against Cleveland is more important than next week's game.

1832
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 3: Against the Eagles.

1833
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 2: This is an AFC conference game. The NFC game doesn't

1834
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 2: matter unless you're getting down to common games on a

1835
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:37,439
Speaker 2: time bread.

1836
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 4: That's right.

1837
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 1: So that's it for us today.

1838
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,640
Speaker 2: Tomorrow is an obl Friday fan mailbag edition to One

1839
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, So get your questions in now for Steve

1840
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 2: and I to answer tomorrow, and we'll obviously have Greg

1841
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 2: Cosel with a senior producer from NFL Films to talk

1842
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 2: x's and o's on Bills Browns Well see tomorrow at

1843
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 2: one