WEBVTT - Omarion Part 1 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:14.319 And money. Well than take vala. We are at all 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:20.880 things R and B ladies and gentleman. What's going on? 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.880 I am Tank Valentine and this Yeah this the RVY 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:31.760 Money podcast, baby a glory on all things all, all 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:37.360 of it, R and B y Yeah, oh man, yeah 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:44.040 this is rare organic. Yeah, alcalin, alcalin R and B. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.880 You you getting your fruits and badges? Yeah, you getting 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:55.400 your fruits and your waters you got Yeah. Very few 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:59.840 people go from child star, child superstar. You're grown man, 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:04.880 growing superstar. And this man has done it in all sectors, uh, TV, 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.600 film and music. Ladies and gentlemen, our brother our friends. 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:18.320 I loved one, Mr Marri Valentine. Thank you for having me, 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:22.039 Thank you for having me yourself. Man. All is well, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:28.759 All is well, and in alignment. Yeah yeah, you're using words. Listen, 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.039 I want to do I want to do a little 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:38.880 promoting off the top. Let's promote off the top of book. Yes, unbothered. Yes, 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:42.360 the power of choosing enjoy, the power of choosing joy 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.280 out right now. Yes, indeed, just give me give me 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.040 a couple of bars on that man, how did you 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.640 just what? What what made you take this road? And 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.120 upon completion. How do you feel with all of this, 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.800 have all this good stuff happening around this book? Yeah? 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:04.440 So you know, UM, my experience you know, with love uh, 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.800 in certain instances have been very public, you know. Um, 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:13.240 so my life truly inspired this book. You know. Um, 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:17.160 there is real power and you know, not allowing outside 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:22.480 forces to you know, cripple your mindset and your perspective. Um. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.440 Hence the you know drop title Choosing Joy and UM, 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.040 you know, the fans dubbed me unbothered Mr Unbothered. You know, 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.040 they gave me that name, they gave me that title, 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.240 but it truly, uh, you know, gave a name to 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.200 a posture that I felt like I've been holding my 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:40.720 whole life, you know what I mean. So, UM, it's 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:46.240 journal prompts in there, it's meditation, it's um affirmation. UM, 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.320 I'm really speaking from my personal experience and going through 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:52.840 this business and sharing the importance of you know, being 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.720 the master of your destiny, you know, UM, choosing you 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:01.000 know what's best for you. And because I went through 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.720 the things that I went through, you know, which was 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.400 pretty intense, seeing the value of being able to step 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.000 back and um not allow you know, people to control 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:14.120 my behavior is a powerful thing, you know. Um. I 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:18.200 feel like the culture really needs, you know, um, some 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:22.200 focus on emotional intelligence. You know, we all speak about 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.239 mental health, but it really truly starts with one step, 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.320 you know, and that's you deciding, you know, um to 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.600 be where you will value to be, where you are appreciated, 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:37.560 UM to you know, um uh be unbothered. Yeah, there 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.200 goes a few bars for your tank. I think that 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.240 My brother Window used to tell me, don't let nobody 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:48.320 put your emotion. Mm hmmm. Don't let nothing or nobody 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:53.200 right put you in emotion. And in the beginning, it 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.240 started with you know, oh he's promoted to saying we 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.800 gotta or the people at the radio saying we gotta 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.520 said no, no, we'll move when it's time to move. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.880 We don't have to react. Well, well, we'll let them 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.119 do what they're gonna do, and then we'll figure out 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.200 what we're gonna do. And then that's what we'll do, 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.360 not based on anything that's going on around us. But 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.839 when when you adopt it into your into your spirit, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.920 into your everyday movements, it's like the choices you make 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:29.080 UM dictate how you live your life. You know what 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.840 I mean, so the choice that the underlying choosing joy 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.479 is a real choice that you have to make, you 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.279 have to want to make. They always called me the 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:43.680 glass half full, because that's how I choose to see 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:48.760 everything right. There is a reason for this, and within 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.080 this there's growth. There's going to be learning that understand 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:55.480 something in here for me, even if it's only one 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.680 little thing, I want to grab onto that and make 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:03.480 that the reason why I'm experiencing whatever this is. So, man, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.359 I applaud you, Thank you, man, I applaud you, thank you. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:14.520 You've seen the congratulations. Yeah. Um, hair your hair, yeah hair, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:24.919 it's nice that you just did you for the pot? No? No, no, actually, um, yesterday, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.840 Um I was on a Black Lady Sketch comedy show. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:36.159 Yeah I just did that. Yeah, ball man, aren't they ball? Ye? 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.600 Don't don't? Yeah? Yeah, did you go crazy? No? Of course. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.440 You know, when you get to be yourself, people don't 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.320 get you. Were get an opportunity in that space, and 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.200 I think I think those ladies for that where we 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:50.880 get to just change that fun straight up shout out 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:55.400 to Robbin, Yeah, Scott Robin is we just get to 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.080 let our hair down. Gabrielle get let our hair down 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.560 to have I mean, you let your here there, I'm 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:06.400 working on mine. I'm growing. I'm growing. It's some stuff 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.479 under here. I don't think. I don't think I ain't 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.360 got you know what I'm saying. I don't think I 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:17.840 ain't wavy. But all right, so listen, we've known you win. 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:22.239 But you know, we always treated as if there's somebody 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:26.840 watching for the first time, straight up, and they want 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:31.880 to know where did o'marion come from? Where? When was 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:35.359 the first time somebody said that boy good? When was 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.400 the first time you said in your mind, oh, ship, 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.520 I got something? Yeah, take us back to Inglewood, take 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:47.560 us back to the woods. Well, well, you know what, 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.240 you know, Inglewood was a special place. And you know, 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:54.080 when you're from California, you know, back then, gangs didn't 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.960 look like what they look like now, you know what 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.320 I'm saying, like gang gang. It didn't look like that. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.400 It looked like brotherhood. It looked like being accepted in 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:06.320 the neighborhood. You know, uh, you know, elders or o 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.000 g s looking after you, you know what I mean. Um, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:10.920 so I was just an inner city kid, you know 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:15.960 what I mean? That love to you know, um, discover things. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:17.800 You know what I'm saying. Um, I went to the 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.600 Boys and Girls Club, you know. Um, I would say 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:26.120 it started for me at UM this um this fine 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.080 art school called LAFA That's where I went to. And 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.800 when I went to Lafa UM for the summer program, 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.200 every day we did something different. You know. We did 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.560 like seven or eight different dance styles. Uh, singing was 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.160 a part of it as well. But that's when I 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:44.560 booked my first quote unquote gig as a performer, you 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.560 know what I mean. Um, I came in the game community. No, 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:51.720 actually through audition that was happening at the dance studio 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:56.480 I was at, Yeah, and that's actually where I met 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.200 Ro Road for the first time to you know what 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.920 I mean, on this audition a Road Cliff Um and 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.200 Ed Moore. You know what I'm saying. So before you know, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.800 I came even into my artistry. You know, I was 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:13.120 very much just you know, an inner city you know 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.280 kid that just you know, had the biggest mole and 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.960 you know, would try anything. You know what I'm saying. Um, 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.160 that's when I Um, I was thirteen, I booked my 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.600 first commercial, you know what I mean, My Pops commercial, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.400 which Uh was shot at Dorsey, which is the high 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:32.520 school my mom went to. You know what I mean. 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.160 When you're from l A, you know, it's it's a 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.199 lot of places, but it's real small too, you know 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:41.920 what I'm saying. So, um, my mom actually was a 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.280 hair stylus and she worked at a lot of the 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.880 prominent Um you know, she worked at Millennium. She used 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:50.640 to work at this other shop on Hollywood and Vine 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.280 called Afros of Hollywood. Um so yeah, man, I was 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.240 just an inner city kid, and you know what I mean, 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:01.080 I just you know, after my pop commercial, you know, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.360 I got into B two K. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:10.160 And okay, so so at the time, um, one of 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:17.400 the managers was married to my play aunt. So my 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.560 plate on invited me to a New Year's party and 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.200 of course, you know everybody was there. You know this 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.079 house on Cold Facts actually, um right here in the 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.600 valley and everybody would be there is Actually before B 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.360 two K even became who we were, you know what 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.719 I mean. We're performed for Destiny Child. Destiny Child is 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.480 to come through Black used to come through seven oh two. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:45.079 You know what I'm saying. All of the girls, Yeah, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.560 before you finished for the white people, Can you explain 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:57.440 to them with a plate? Okay, I know what you mean. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.480 I would like for you to explain to them what 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:06.600 you know your mama home. Let me break it down. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:10.120 Let me break it down. So my play on, um 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.480 was actually okay, well I have to take it back 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:18.120 because my nana, which would be my grandmother, was cool 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.200 with her mother, and you know, they used to run 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:27.400 this hair salon back in the day right off of Crenshaw. So, um, 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:31.360 that's how my play on. You know, and my mom 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.319 they were around the same age, so they essentially grew 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.320 up together. So you know, my mom had me at sixteen, 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.520 so she was like a child having a child, So 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.840 they grew up together. I grew up with him. So 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.000 that's how that's my play on. She's not literally blood, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.319 but you know, she grew up with my mom, so 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:54.720 that's the play on. It's important. I mean, I could 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.360 start so far back, you know, with this, but really, 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.280 you know, um, the highlight is is that you know, 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.800 I was just one of those type of kids that 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.800 was excited about life. You know, I had no fear virtually, 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.920 I could go anywhere I wanted to go, and you know, 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:14.760 I wanted to entertain. I wanted to be seen from 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:17.200 Um jump that you that you just can remember that 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.360 you were just that kid that like I was dancing 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:24.079 for people when you when you kid that literally, oh 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.000 come downstairs and do the flip. I was that kid. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:31.680 And also, um yeah, I was that kid. Oh do 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.680 that dance? Shut up? Oh MARII you know what I'm saying. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.200 I was just I had so much energy, so you know, 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.360 it was just bound to happen. And also too, because 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.959 my mom was a hairstylar. She used to uh do 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.160 God's Properties hair. She just a lot of people in yeah, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.839 in the industry hair. So I would be around that, 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.040 you know what I'm saying. Um, so yeah, I was 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.520 always like entertaining. I grew up in the entertainment business. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.160 You know what I'm saying. Shout out to your mom. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:12:01.240 Shout out for really giving you your first platform and 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.959 believing in it because a lot of times people's parents 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.640 they don't and this is something that that happens that 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.040 people don't speak about a lot. A lot of entertainers 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.720 were annoying kids like let's just be real, wait a minute, 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:23.800 that's that's a hilarious true. So when yeah, that's facts 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:29.480 work shut that, shut that, shut up. Yeah, yeah, you 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.679 know what I mean. So so when I'm paring you, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.080 he's saying they' worked to make no money, ain't right? 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.600 All these singing, all these damn songs. They're making no money. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.400 But but shout out to the parents though, for real, 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:50.360 that that let the kids be creative? Yeah and make noise. Yeah, 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:54.600 yeah for the neighbors tolerated, ain't tolerated? You know what? 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.040 Because that it's a lot of people's dreams that get 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.800 shut down. That's true because sometimes the parents are the 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:08.880 surroundings may not even understanding exactly like a lot of 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.880 us are just as bad ass kid that won't shut 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:16.200 up when in actuality, this is a kid that could 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:22.280 grow to change lives and and and again back to 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.800 this first generation thing. It's like my parents looking at me, 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.600 sit in my room all day and make beats and 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.160 sing and write songs. You know what I mean. It's 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.800 kind of weird and not eat. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.360 Did you eat to like? You know, I'm gonna eating 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:42.000 a second? Do you know what time it is? It's 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.560 a p M. You haven't eaten all day? I still have. 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.080 I just move on my wake up clothes. I'm in 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:52.800 my drawers, right. But I was so consumed with something. 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.000 I didn't know what it was. I don't know what 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.559 to do with it. I just knew that I had 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.720 to make a beat and I had to write a 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.200 song and I had to sing that. That's all I knew. Yeah, 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:08.559 I was making noise. I had real amps, you know 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.959 what I'm saying, like somebody my mother coming in and 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.800 kicking the door. Hey, hey, my nigga. But they got 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.040 you those amps. They bought them for me. So it 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.560 was like it was like listen. They didn't know how 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:24.400 to support it, but they also knew not to get 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:27.120 in the way. Right, he's working on something. I don't 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.560 know what he working on. Something didn't let him do 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.600 he go? Now? His kids be creative? Man, you get 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.320 him to be too, k What is that? What is 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.760 that conversation? Like? How does that conversation go? Easy? Moms 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:41.160 was like, Yo, do you want to be in a 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.480 group or what? Because you know, we was at the 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.920 New Year's um party and you know the other three 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.560 boys they started dancing and I'm like, oh, they like, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.240 you know, they're doing their choreography, you know what I mean? 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:56.280 And they're like, go ahead, Oh you know what I'm saying. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.320 I sing and then I dance and then I hit 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.880 my back flip and they like, back flip. I got 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.440 to hit the backflip. Now, how do you well? You 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.880 know what. I taught myself how to backflip, So I 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.600 want to say, um, I was well in my double 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:15.360 hand backhands spring vibe, but I was like maybe fourteen 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.880 when I met there. Yeah, fourteen only try to backflip points. No, 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:25.680 it didn't go with never did it again? Know I'm good. Yeah. 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.960 The front flip though, I can get that, which don't 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:31.800 mean ship you know what I mean? You know I 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.280 mean it doesn't with no hands, it doesn't mean anything. 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:41.400 Did you have hands? That's called a dive roll. I'm 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:45.680 about to show you these these hands in what you're 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:49.840 doing in my little front flip. Let me come out 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:54.600 a self taught flippers are damaged individuals. Our bodies are messed. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.080 Uh yeah. One time I did twenty hands springs in 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:02.680 the road at Sherman Park on the grass. Oh my lord, going, 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:19.000 come on, you're still playing for it today? About pick 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:25.200 your feet? I flipped off of a garage once over 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:29.680 rotated and landing on my neck. Yeah, I was the 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:34.080 daredevil too, so if anything, yeah, that was anything. Come 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.200 on like that was that was life though, straight up 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.320 what I'm saying, they got you in the group. It 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.880 just broke his damn neck. You actually stunching my growth. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.640 Now we're supposed to be six six man. That was real. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.880 This ship you see this monkey all off the back flip. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:17:00.560 This is out of control. That's crazy. Those pieces six crazy. 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.960 So yeah, now you're in the group. Ye now I'm 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.800 in the group. That's so that's literally your audition. Yeah 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.440 the party, yep, the party, like we got it. We 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.160 got young fellow, we need him. Yep. Come on you 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:14.440 you want to be in a group. Oh, you want 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.119 to be in a group. And I'm like thinking to myself, 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:17.959 like Dann, this would be dope. You know. I actually 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.880 was working on, um, you know, some solo stuff. I 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.040 was rapping. I actually did this song called I want 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.920 to be like Puff and I actually got my name 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.439 yeah I want to be like I was rapping. Yeah, 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:35.760 I started, I started rapping and did you have a wrap? Yeah? 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.000 I actually got my name from I used to be 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:42.040 in this rap crew with with all adults called the 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:46.080 Wild Kingdom. And um, there was this dude named Ruckets 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.240 that was in the group and he named me on Marian. 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:50.080 He was like, your name of Marian. I'm like, oh 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.120 did you what's the science? You know what I'm saying. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.960 And Ian king forever. You know what I'm saying, Marian 0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:06.239 came forever. So really it's just going back to your 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.760 rooms at this point, is what you're telling us. Yeah, 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:10.119 this is where it start, you know what what I'm saying. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:21.640 Wait minute, My name wasn't cool. It was just empt hurricane. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:24.679 It didn't have the didn't have no kings and queens, 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:32.800 it didn't have no motherland, no sense of origin, just 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.040 a hurricane. So that's where your name comes from. Yep. 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:40.880 And then my mom you know, um, the the guy 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.000 that she was with at that time, you know, um, 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.920 he used to like manage producers and stuff like that. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:50.800 So early on, you know what I mean, that machines, planning, fat, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.760 all of that. I was exposed to all that. The planet. 0:18:55.560 --> 0:19:01.800 Come on, think, come on, come on, you know all 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.880 around you as year is this though, Because I'm trying 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:11.680 to figure out I feel like I met you. I 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:17.440 met you in ninety. What do you what did you 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:19.920 do in the group? Did you join the group? It 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:23.720 was like it was like somewhere around there I met 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:28.800 you nine. Were you working with Dave Scott? Then we 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:34.359 played basketball together? Oh wow, I don't remember this. We 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.960 played basketball at a park close to More Park. I think, yeah, 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:42.800 something like that, because he was telling me that that 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:44.560 you you were in a group. It was I think 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.160 it was another another somebody else from the groups, like, yeah, 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.720 a dope, I'm working with him, be super dope. And 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:51.359 I was like, okay, cool, I'm you know, because I 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:52.879 was just trying to do my artist thing. But I 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.159 was fresh off the tours singing backgrounds with Genuine and 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.840 he was dancing with Genuine and him got rid of club. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:04.680 Oh that's crazy. Yeah we played basketball. Wow, that's crazy. 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.200 Before I think it was like a holiday or something 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:11.000 I was out here for like a Thanksgiving and yeah, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:15.240 that's still wow. So now you're the new lead singer, yes, 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.840 the group? And do they have a deal yet? No, 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.280 we don't have a deal. You know, this process up 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.560 leading up to us getting a deal was, you know, 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:29.240 the schooling in which you know that has been that 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.119 gift that has constantly, you know, give to me, you 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.520 know what I mean, like the drive, like working with 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:38.360 Dave because you know, I had took some dance classes obviously, 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:40.520 you know what I mean, but I never really worked 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.399 with an individual you know, like Dave, you know what 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:46.640 I'm saying. And he really helped me develop as um 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.280 you know, in that in that space, you know what 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.840 I'm saying. So it took like two to two and 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.119 a half three years of us just really being together 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.040 and like, you know, every day, you know, besides us 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:00.840 being in school. It was like, alright, for the weekend, 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:02.560 we're going over here, all y'all practice. All right. As 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.280 soon as y'all get up, anybody came through the door, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.360 was like beach k performed, you know what I'm saying. 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:10.159 So we really um a lot of work. Yeah, we 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:12.639 put we we were developed. We were developed, you know 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:17.280 what I'm saying. So that's it is. It is because 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.960 you guys, you guys, you guys were ready. Yeah. The 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:25.560 first time I saw you, I was like, yo, yo, 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:30.440 we did that a gazillion times, you know, like and 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:34.240 I attribute you know, even my staying power and being 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.879 able to continue to transform our art and having that 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.960 that essence. You know what I mean? That that that 0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.760 that eat you know that beginning time for me where 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.840 it was like okay, no, it ain't about getting it perfect, 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.080 It's about doing it over again. Now do it again. 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:50.359 Now do it again, Now do it again. You know 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:53.879 what I'm saying. And I feel like you know, um, 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.920 all artists you know have a knack for you know, 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:01.480 a type of perfection. And you know what I'm saying. Um, 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.120 So yeah, that's what we was doing. Man, we was perfect. 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.440 I mean we went to go see pretty much all 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.840 the labels. You know what I'm saying. We we we've 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:10.480 seen l a read. I speak about this in my 0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:15.040 book too. You know, um, that experience of you know, 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.600 being denied, of being told no. And then you know 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:21.359 that last meeting was with you know, DamID Fishing and 0:22:21.440 --> 0:22:24.280 Polly Anthony over at EPIC and it was like, Yo, 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:26.960 they had that conversation with us like yo, if y'all 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.119 don't get signed, and you know, like we pretty much 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:30.480 can't help y'all. You know what I mean. So we 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:34.719 was fourteen fifteen, you know, years old, dealing with all right, 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.200 you know, if y'all if you're gonna make it or 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.000 not you know what I'm saying, or you're gonna do 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.080 the best performance you'll ever had or not. Y'all want 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:43.920 this deal or not? And obviously we got the deal 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.000 and then that was it. So every other label turned 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.399 you down? Yeah, yeah, every other label. You know, l 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.600 A Read flew us out. You know, that's the first 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:54.840 time I've ever been to the fourth season I put 0:22:54.920 --> 0:23:02.119 on the road. Yeah yeah, yep, flew us out. We're like, oh, 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.440 we're signed, We're signed. Oh yeah, l A Read. You 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:08.240 know what was what was the label called at that time? 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:11.000 The face? Yeah, they was on fire, you know what 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.040 I'm saying. We was like, yeah, we're home, and it 0:23:13.160 --> 0:23:17.639 was like no, sir, no sir. Passed on y'all. So 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:23.240 at fourteen fifteen, how does that feel? How does that 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.639 feel when you feel like you went in front of 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.520 someone and gave your all, gave your best, You didn't 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.359 do like you said, you didn't practice this a gazillion times, 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.960 and you're like, this is my moment, and then you 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.880 get the phone call or after you perform, you see 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:38.639 the reaction and you're like, oh, I don't think this 0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:42.600 is it? Like what is that feeling like for you? 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.920 For for a fourteen, fifteen year old kid. Well, you 0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:48.760 know it kind of for me at that time, you 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:50.200 know what I'm saying, it kind of just went in 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:51.879 one air and went out the other, you know what 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:57.800 I'm saying, just because you know, um, I don't think 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:03.400 that you know, we focused so much on like, you know, failure, 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.640 you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, we were 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:10.080 kind of built in the you know space like all right, 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:14.560 let's you know, dissect this performance. Now, what could y'all 0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.280 have done better? You know what I'm saying, Like what 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:18.800 you know what I mean? So every performance was kind 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:20.760 of like that. It wasn't like it was the end 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.800 of the world, you know for us a moment. Yeah, 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:26.360 it was just like okay, whoa, Well they didn't want 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:28.600 to you know, and you know what I'm saying, not 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:32.240 really realizing or recognizing that, you know, the business was 0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.879 gonna be hinged on the people that were representing us, 0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.680 not understanding that as a kid, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.320 you know what I mean, but knowing like, yo, I'm 0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:43.280 coming here to give him of all. So okay, well 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.560 he didn't take us, that's fine. Well we got one 0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.880 more meeting, right, all right, cool, well we're about to Yeah, 0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:51.920 we you know, we was jumping on tables. That's really 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:53.399 how we got signed, you know what I mean. Like 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:55.920 when we were performing, we was like at you. You 0:24:55.960 --> 0:24:58.080 know what I'm saying, We're jumping off this doing it. 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.560 You know what I'm saying. So that's what essentially I 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.160 feel like I got ideal. But to answer your question, 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.359 I think it just felt like, all right, well whatever, 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:07.480 you know what I mean, let's keep it going like 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.280 that's a that's a great mindset. That's a great mindset 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.040 to not let these things knock you down. Yeah, you know, 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.560 because you just at the end of the day, it's cliche, 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:18.640 but it's true. You just need one the right Yes, yeah, 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:23.040 just just one, that one and y'all got that. Yeah, yep. 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.160 And from that point when you guys get signed to Epic, 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:31.440 how long until the debut album? Well we uh, we 0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:36.720 immediately started getting into recording, so they fast tracted. Yeah 0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:39.080 you know what I'm saying, They see TC we win 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.800 and got our diamond chains. Yeah yeah, we didn't got 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:46.240 the diamond chain and we got the locksmith. You know 0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.760 what I'm saying. We went to Jacob You see that 0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:54.879 was the first check knew that. Did you know you 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.199 were blowing it? Now? Did you think this was just oh, 0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.600 it's just part of the gave of Steve. Now you 0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:03.760 know what you count your money? Yet? Nah? We were kids, man, 0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.639 We're just like, oh, we want that. Okay, here you go, Oh, 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:08.480 y'all want this? Okay, Well I'm gonna get this. And 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.600 then you know, he likell, I'm gonna get this one 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:12.680 right here. You know what I'm saying. So, you know, 0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.560 just having access to that, we wasn't thinking about like, 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:19.159 hold up, I need this to stretch. Okay, I need this, 0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.680 I need it. You know, Yeah, we didn't. We didn't 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:27.880 know about Yeah, because you think you're coming out tomorrow. 0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.159 You think you think I was coming out to you? 0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:34.720 Got this is itching me. I gotta get I gotta 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.440 get out there. I gotta I have to show right. 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:41.959 I have to let everybody know. Okay, I'm up, I'm up. 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:49.320 What's good? I need rims and the chain my name 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.040 on it exactly just in case they don't know who 0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:55.119 I am. So, did you go to Fox Hills immediately 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:57.479 after you get your chain? No? Actually hit them all. 0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.280 We were we were in New York. You know what, 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:02.399 Jacob was my first my first jeweler, you know what 0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:06.000 I'm saying. So you know, we was Yeah, we was 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.439 introduced properly and like all right, y'all boys, go over here, 0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:11.000 and now we're gonna get you all in this outfit. 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.320 We're gonna we're gonna put you all up here right here, 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.080 and then y'all gonna do this and then it was 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.119 like heavy lit and it's funny. H Just to give 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.560 you this little nugget, we we I think we were 0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:24.720 staying at the Hudson Downtown, New York and uh, we 0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:28.520 get on the elevator and who's on the elevator. I 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:32.120 was about to say, ain't l a read? We were hot, 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:36.200 we most successful group. We get on the elevator. You know, 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:38.919 he's like, hey, what's up, guys. He was like, hey, 0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:43.000 congratulations man, y'all doing great. And it was like, oh boom, 0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.480 and that was a full circle moment for us. So yeah, 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.240 that was that was that was happening back then and 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.399 continues to happen. You know what I'm saying. All Right, 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:51.679 so let's let's I want to get to I want 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.840 to get to a song. Okay, I want to get 0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:56.760 to I want to get the guys to be. Okay, 0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:01.720 you're just gonna jump over, I don't mind. We can 0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.320 go back to bumpump Okay, all right, that was my joy. 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:07.239 I got to be with my favorite. That's my favorite too, 0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:11.399 got to be come on, as you know, as a 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:16.320 church kid, as a little Steve, as a you know, 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.960 as a singer and a vibe artist. Yah, gots to 0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:28.399 be was a grown man period. Yeah, I knew you 0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.960 were serious when I heard that record, because I actually 0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.159 I hadn't met you yet. Yeah, I knew you were 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.760 serious at that point. Is that yeah? Yeah, yeah, for sure, 0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:38.920 for sure, going for the heads, going for the number 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:44.360 one spot. It was such a record for kids to have, 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:49.200 but like pandemonia, it felt like pandemonia, but it was like, 0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.080 oh yeah, it's it's about to turn all away into 0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:56.960 these It was like, listen, digital boys, these grown women 0:28:57.000 --> 0:29:01.960 ain't gonna be able to contain themselves with the vibrations 0:29:02.360 --> 0:29:05.880 that are connected to this guy's the big record. Right, 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:15.520 come on, this is a problem. Yeah, was it a problem? Yeah? Yeah, listen, listen, listen. 0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:23.600 I want to manage you and that's what come on? Yeah, yea, 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:27.800 I want to manage you hear me? Yeah, yeah, that's facts, 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:29.920 that's fact. And we was talking that talk and we 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.080 was walking that walk to yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Listen. 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:34.720 I was a young I was a young player out 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:39.680 here at that time, and y'all was definitely the little valance. 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:43.960 That's what they're doing. Okay, I like like, how was it? Like? Okay, 0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:47.160 we got bump bump ump, great? Going crazy? Um, you 0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:51.480 got going crazy? How is it? Going back to Inglewood? 0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.120 How is it? Man? It's so much love, It's so 0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.800 much love, you know what I mean? But all y'all 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.600 wasn't from Inglewood though. Everybody from parts of l a 0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.520 um yep, different parts of l a Um No, but 0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:10.280 everybody well not l A. You know, um songs from Compton, 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:13.320 something from West l A. And then yeah, I guess 0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:16.880 you could say l A. But yeah, going back to Inglewood, man, 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:18.600 you know what I mean? Because you know, I was 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.880 definitely tied to the soil on like my best friend, 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.280 you know, steal in Inglewood, you know what I mean. 0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.760 So I would be there all the time until until 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:31.280 I realized, wait a minute, I'm sitting out here on 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.160 the porch. I need to go back in the house. 0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.480 You know what I'm saying, because um, you know there 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.160 was a time you know what I mean, Uh, when 0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:42.160 when l A has just got real violent, you know 0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.040 as far as the game culture goes, you know what 0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.720 I'm saying. So I was going back, but I wasn't, 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:50.480 you know, like processing that's like, yo, you know, you 0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.480 got some shows in a couple of weeks, right and 0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:55.800 you know anybody could come over here and start shooting 0:30:55.920 --> 0:31:00.280 right now. But you know what though, when you grow up, yeah, 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.840 in that element, it takes a minute. It's hard to 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:09.200 process that you're what you're what you're really growing up in. 0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.240 These are the same streets out and ran up in 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:18.720 the tag and flipped off of that's and they were 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:24.240 at an age where friends start going different ways like 0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:29.960 that's that that teenage fourteen thirteen, fourteen fifteen is when 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.800 your homeboy. When y'all was tending eleven, y'all was just homies. 0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:37.040 Now he's from a different side of the street, are 0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:41.680 from another block block away, and now in in l A, 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.160 y'all have a whole another culture with the colors what 0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:49.640 I'm saying of like and people don't like most people 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:53.360 don't realize, like you went to school with Nip. Yeah, yeah, 0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.440 high school Joe Pottner growing up, you know what I'm saying. 0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:02.320 So I'm sure he's probably seen and you early on like, yo, damn, 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.200 that's my homie as he jumping off the porch. Though, 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.560 that's facts, that's facts, that's facts, you know what I mean. 0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:11.920 So it's just like you're saying, like that experience for 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.360 you being at home, where you seeing you fifteen, sixteen whatever. 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.640 At that point you're like, damn, the homies is really 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:22.400 out here, active, straight up, straight up and from different sizes. Now, 0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:25.000 that's facts, that's facts. You can't even pick a side. 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.480 You're like, yeah, I might just have to get out 0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.600 of here. Yeah, I mean, it definitely was fun though, 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.480 you know what I mean. Pulling up you know what 0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.320 I'm saying. All my whips in the hood, they're like, whoa, 0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.440 what is this? You have to do that? What is that? 0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:46.600 I'm like, come on, we out, you know, Yeah, that's 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.400 the first whip. What's the first? What's the first? My 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:54.720 first whip? I bought myself c O five hundred three TVs. 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.600 Y'all remember how we used to do it? You know, 0:32:57.840 --> 0:32:59.920 did you go to Global Times? I was I was 0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:08.960 a three ten. I was like, over have full sounds, 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.640 you know, swede headline to come on with the crown 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:15.440 in the headline. You know what I mean. He swayed 0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.400 on the seat, you know, he swayed on the floor. 0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:24.280 Oh yeah, eighteen eighteen yeah, eighteen out of control? Yeah 0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:28.600 for real? Playing jay Z. Excuse me? What's your name? 0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:35.480 Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, shot out to my potting to 0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:44.920 Chris Mills and three one all tis all the whips. 0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:48.360 Chris Mills was the coldest to ever. That's facts. That's 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.440 I've never seen nobody flip cars like him ever. That's facts. 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.080 And he was in a different one every day every day. 0:33:54.440 --> 0:34:01.520 That's facts. That guy brou With just the first guy saw, 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:06.880 first guy ever saw take off his shoes, his snickers, 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.840 put them in the in the lambow trunk which was 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.560 in the front front, and then put on his house shoes. 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:22.120 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, drive to drive his car. Watch him. 0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:30.239 I was like, that's different. Let's try that. You have 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:38.800 to team Broney yeah, ce L five man and but 0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:40.840 car has always been a part of my journey. You 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:42.720 know what I'm saying. I don't have so many whips. 0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.319 I'm saying cars always whips. You know what I'm saying, 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:54.440 I don't even gotta have nowhere to live, make all 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.440 I care about. I don't care somebody's gonna let me 0:34:58.440 --> 0:34:59.880 spend a night with You don't know where I'm going 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:10.719 to that town house? Like yeah, yeah, like trying to 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:20.160 back am I am? I clothed? Hilarious? Yeah so what Yeah? 0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:26.600 So now with the sixth, with all of the success, 0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:38.279 what is the inspiration or or what in fact makes 0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:45.600 you decide I'm going solo? Is solo before you guys said, 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.239 it's solo a thing that's like in the beginning, right, 0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:53.000 It's solo a thing like let's get these solo projects 0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.560 off and then let's get back to business or what 0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:01.719 Solo a thing where I'm like running course? Right? So, um, 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:05.400 it was like it was two phases from my personal 0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:09.000 perspective and experience, you know. And one was that we 0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:14.760 all were doing separate UM covers for the Pandemonium album, 0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:20.719 and you know, we all kind of felt away, you know, 0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:22.960 different about that. You know what I'm saying, Oh, I'm 0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.160 gonna have my cover or you're gonna have your cover, 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.480 or we're all gonna have covers. It's little you know 0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:29.719 what I'm saying, Oh, I'm about to go solo. You 0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:33.080 know what I'm saying. Um, that was kind of the conversation, 0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:35.200 you know what I mean. But it was it was 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.719 all It was all supported, you know, up until the 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:43.840 time that the group separated. And that was for me. 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:48.480 It was not initially my plan to be a solo artist, 0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:50.560 you know what I'm saying, because I was already a 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.440 solo artist. You know what I'm saying. I already was 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.200 developing myself in music, you know what i mean. So 0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.000 once I got in the group, it was a conscious 0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.600 decision that it was something that it was, you know, 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.000 I'm I'm a part of this is zick. You know 0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.120 what I'm saying. Yeah, you know, but right up until 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.200 you know, it was like a lot of the business 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.719 was super convoluted, you know, Um, people had to pick 0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.560 size you know. The boys was basically you know, like 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.320 on the other side, you know what i mean. And 0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.040 it was like You're coming with us, and I'm like, 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.879 oh I am, and I'm like, okay, well I roll 0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.000 with y'all, So I guess I gotta go back with y'all, 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:26.759 you know what i mean. Literally in the car, you know, 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.360 what I'm saying, um, and then it kind of just 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.319 unfolded from there, you know what I mean. We went 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:39.400 through a lot of I guess, uh unnecessary you know, 0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:43.840 tumultuous things because it was people in the middle, you know, 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:50.680 really kind of architecting, you know, are our differences, you 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.840 know what I'm saying, and putting putting them against us, 0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:58.919 you know what I'm saying. So you know, yeah, yeah, 0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:00.879 and I mean like yo, as soon as as soon 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.879 as as soon it was like, you know, we had 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.400 the situation that separated us. That was pretty much like yo, 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.279 oh was going with us, y'all do whatever y'all want 0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.800 to do, you know, which in hindsight, I didn't know 0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.759 what created in my city towards me, you know, from them, 0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.040 you know what I'm saying. And then I'm like in 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:19.840 the studio and then I'm hearing these niggas is on 0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.480 you know what i mean, the radio station, and they 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.960 this in me. So now I'm like, y'all niggas, you 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:27.359 know what I'm saying, I'm going again on my ship, 0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:30.680 you know what I mean. Um. And that's why you know, 0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:32.520 not to go super fast forward. But that's why the 0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:35.759 millennium tour was so special, you know what I'm saying, um, 0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.840 because in hindsight, it was a lot of people in 0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:43.839 the middle of of conversations that you know, we should 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.080 have had, you know what I'm saying, We should you know, 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.080 dealt with you know what I mean. But we were kids, 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:49.600 you know what I'm saying, So we didn't know how 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:55.160 to articulate, like, Yo, what's up? You know what I'm saying, Whip. No, 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.680 we didn't. And and you know, I I would say 0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:00.880 that like my experience is with the group, it was 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:04.040 almost like it was really a lot of outside voices 0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.400 controlling what was going on in the inside. But you know, 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.239 in the inside, it was up to us, you know, 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.360 to have that bond, you know what I mean. So 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.440 we didn't know how to be responsible, you know, with 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:19.480 each other, you know what I mean. It's like you 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.200 gotta bro, you know what I mean. But in hindsight, 0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:24.960 it's like your bro lives in a separate household, so 0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.719 his values and the way that he deals with things 0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.319 is completely different from your growing up in your experiences, 0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.840 and if you don't get an opportunity to reconcile that, 0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:38.040 you know, that's what essentially created the you know, um, 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:41.960 the you know, the head butting and you know the 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.080 disrespect and you know all of that. You know what 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.160 I'm saying. Um, So yeah, I think, like you know, 0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.279 it's difficult to backtrack in those type of situations when 0:39:53.400 --> 0:39:57.880 so much, when so much has happened to lead up 0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:04.400 to Yeah, the bad energy it was because it's like 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.600 as you say, with the with the with the architects 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:10.480 saying that we're trying to that have their own agenda 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.440 and needed to do whatever they needed to do to 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.680 make sure that things happen their way. You know what 0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:23.440 I mean? It created so much distance to where without 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:27.880 those conversations, without that communication and without that understanding, that 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:33.000 that distance was filled up with so much hate, negativity, 0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:38.040 back and forth and things that nobody knew if they 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:42.279 really meant. But I gotta say something back or I 0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.880 gotta feel something back. You know what I'm saying? What 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:49.680 what they say? But what do you say? What? And 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:52.680 and not one, not at one time did were you 0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.600 able to? Because here's here's what happens. When you watched 0:40:56.600 --> 0:41:02.279 The Godfather and the Godfather is talking to Michael, and 0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:06.960 he says, whoever comes to you and tells you about 0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:11.520 the meeting. He's the trader. So many times I'd oftend 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.759 whoever the person is coming to you saying, they were 0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.799 saying yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right right yeah, well yeah, 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:25.719 is more than likely helping to orchestrate or continue to 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:30.560 orchestrate the division. Yeah between you, between you and or 0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:34.480 between them, and like yeah, I don't wanna rock with 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:37.200 you like that? Like that got you though? Yeah whatever 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.239 that Yeah, And you know, that's been a large part 0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.320 of my experience, even in maturing in business, you know 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:47.360 what I'm saying, like, you know, just other agendas, you 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:50.520 know what I'm saying, and things being convoluted and not 0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:55.560 communicated properly, and you know, no real space to have 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:58.400 those important conversations, you know what I'm saying. And then 0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.399 in hindsight, you know, being a man now and having 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.680 a child and seeing you know, my son and then realizing, 0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:08.880 you know, when kids are young, how it's really like, 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.239 you know, your responsibility to make sure that you have 0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.920 that environment for them to feel safe and for to 0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:17.719 be protected and to learn you know what I'm saying. 0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:22.160 And yeah, man, that's largely been my you know experience, 0:42:22.239 --> 0:42:24.840 and that's why I've always you know, continue to just 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.680 take responsibility for myself and you know my endeavors and 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:31.560 what I say and what I do. You know that 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.719 is important to me because not always have I had 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.560 the opportunity to set the records strate you know what 0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:40.919 I'm saying. And also too, you know, just just looking 0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:43.279 at my journey, you know what I mean, I'm like one. 0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:47.960 I'm I'm I'm the only artist other than Beyonce. You know. 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.799 Um that is like Michael Jackson, that comes from a group, 0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:55.520 a shared space, a shared experience on stage. You know, 0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.719 that's different from being a solo artist or deciding that 0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:02.200 I my solo act. This is all about me, you 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:05.080 know what I mean? So um, you know, I feel 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.920 like my experience is unique in that way, you know 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.759 what I mean, Like where I come from, you know, 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.440 the group, and now I even share the stage with 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.759 my dancers, and it's a different experience for me as 0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:18.520 a solo artist. And I love you, but I'm not 0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:21.840 gonna let you forget Bobby Brown. Okay, you're gonna have 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.760 to mention but but but you gotta mention but but Bobby. 0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:29.080 But Bobby still was in a closer error than than Mike. 0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:32.000 You know what I'm saying like his error was still closer, 0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:35.920 you know, I mean he directly influenced you know, Bobby. 0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.160 You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, we were 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.520 come in generations, you know, at least two or three 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.960 down generations. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, for sure, 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.799 you show, you gotta mention, you know, you gotta miss 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:52.239 your boy there he might trap like I had to 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:56.239 break up a fight between by I don't want that 0:43:56.280 --> 0:44:01.480 to No. We we we we definitely, we definitely. But 0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:04.360 I mean even his experience was a little bit different. 0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:10.719 You know, he was in the group, and then that's true, 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:14.800 that's true, that's true. Well, yeah, I don't know the 0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:24.160 full story. I don't know the full story. We couldn't 0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.040 let Bobby go. We thought he was a major talent. 0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:30.440 Felt like we felt like we could do something with 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:33.239 this kid. He was a special kid, and we gave 0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:37.040 him an opportunity to go solo. So so because of 0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:39.960 that experience, you know what I mean, Like my me, 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:45.400 me stepping into being a solo artist was completely different 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:50.600 from you know, Bobby and my and my um and 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:54.120 my personal uh you know experience, you know what I'm saying, 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:57.719 Like b two K you know, not up until you 0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:01.680 know the docu and this last fifteen year you know, 0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:06.400 reunion that things feel like, Okay, it's not undone. You 0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.360 know what I'm saying. Okay, you know we can perform. 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:11.760 This is this is about us. This is not about 0:45:12.239 --> 0:45:14.920 you know, any outside business people. It's up to us, 0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:16.640 you know what I'm saying. And that was something that 0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.200 you know, Um, I feel like, you know, it was 0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.080 unique to me, you know what I mean, because uh, 0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:27.719 you know, I guess you know, justin you know, it's 0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:31.120 one too, justin this one too, now that I'm thinking 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.520 about it, justin this one too. Um. But yeah, you know, 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.640 stepping in the solo start you know into that. It 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:50.000 wasn't planned, you know, it wasn't something that I remember. 0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:56.040 I remember like obviously we were first. Yeah, I remember 0:45:56.120 --> 0:46:00.439 just us building our bond and me seeing you hurt 0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.719 like you were hurt by that. If I can say that, 0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:06.000 you know what I'm saying. Of course, like a lot 0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:07.880 of people think that it's just like, oh, you know, 0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:11.000 he got a new deal and now he's just he 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:13.759 forgot about it. He up and and no. But it's 0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:17.040 like it's a brotherhood connected to the there are you know, 0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.239 they're family bonds there, you know. I mean, there's just 0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:23.000 it's more than just music. And I remember just meeting you, 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:27.640 right I think ship it felt like it was right there. Yeah, 0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:29.719 it was. It was right there, you know what I mean, 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.000 And and us having those conversations and you just really 0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:36.640 being like like, I'm here, but it's my dogs though, 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:38.239 you know what I'm saying, Like, it's my guys, and 0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:42.160 now I gotta do this album. And literally it was 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:47.080 like you just got thrown into it, fact facts, facts quick, 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.759 and from us, from the from the creative side, from 0:46:49.880 --> 0:46:53.640 the writing and producing side, uh with with with us 0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:55.560 and the other dogs. It was more so like, okay, 0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:57.719 how do we help this young fellow man, you know, 0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:04.680 moving to this new space to this And the craziest 0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:11.239 thing that you probably don't know what Nickas didn't have 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.640 no records for you. Okay, No, I didn't know that 0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.719 y'all made them right there. Yeah, But it wasn't like 0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.320 it wasn't even no real prep for you. Because I 0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:26.000 think now looking back on it, since all that was 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:29.719 happening so fast, you got thrown into the sessions that 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:33.640 we were already doing. There were already projects that we 0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:38.239 were working on that, the building the machine of the 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:42.120 Underdogs was working on and then it was just like damn, there, 0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:49.000 marian is coming almost on some favorite ship y'all know, 0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:50.800 the young fellow right from the group. Like it was 0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:55.239 that and the craziest thing, bro, you know, twenty years 0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:58.680 later we can have a full conversation. Is Nikkas wasn't 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:04.960 trying to do record for you? That's crazy. You're looking 0:48:05.080 --> 0:48:08.399 at the two niggas who were who end up doing them. 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:12.839 That's facts on the All Star we can we talked 0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:14.680 about it before, you know what I mean, on some 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.279 on some prior podcast, we didn't. We didn't go in 0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.439 depth because we knew you were coming, so we would 0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:22.480 have the real conversation with you here. Now that's amazing, 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:24.960 And you know what, that makes sense. That makes sense 0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:31.240 because I was there when the Underdogs broke up. I remember, Okay, 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.600 I remember the niggas was about to fight. Yeah yeah, 0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:50.120 I remember, and you know I got a little Roger 0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:55.560 come on, Mr Rogers, this is come on, my nigh 0:48:57.200 --> 0:49:02.040 come because because because Mario was coming, yeah yeah yeah, 0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:10.840 And you don't understand what working for you, working on 0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:19.239 your project did for me at that time. Um, that 0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:27.560 was your Oh was my first sign of freedom, of 0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:36.320 being free, being back able to create, not being bogged 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:40.480 down with with with the pressures and the you know, 0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:43.800 I was going through a thing. I could not make songs, 0:49:44.520 --> 0:49:49.120 I could not make a beat. Nothing was landing. And 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.640 one day I had to be honest with myself. I said, 0:49:52.560 --> 0:50:00.640 this isn't working for me. I'm out. That's what came 0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:14.399 from it. The same day we knocked that wall down together. Yeah, sir, 0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:22.960 that's gonna be the same garling. It's going through lady singing, Oh, 0:50:24.880 --> 0:50:29.840 come on up next, same on me. I'm glad so 0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:34.759 you can say oh the mon oh in the night 0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:40.160 saying on me, come on this. This is this that's 0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:46.440 represents so much. I was free. Yeah, these guys made 0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:48.360 me at the studio and we was like on the weekend, 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:53.480 it was just us dark empty, Tony Dixon, Eric Dawkins, 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:58.680 tank and that's facts. He was like, listen, listen, this 0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:02.319 is this is it. We just then it was then 0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:23.919 it was yeah, yeah, he was just like the day, Yeah, 0:51:28.480 --> 0:51:43.720 that's nothing that Jack. It's like, hey, I was still around. 0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:48.160 I was stealing around, my long around. I was still 0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:54.000 see from being the reason we turned out this way, 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:58.680 act like I don't want to be with you, man, 0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:03.279 Why don't won Come on? It was down, it was 0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:08.520 going down. I was back in my bag. Come on, 0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:12.879 come on. I was not in my bag before then. 0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:19.040 I was hurting before then. And that was those sessions. 0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:22.440 Working with you, working with Jay, working with Tony, and 0:52:22.560 --> 0:52:27.040 working with Eric that one weekend put me on a wave. 0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:30.319 And the crazy thing is bro and I don't think 0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:34.759 we've ever told you this. Ultimately, that was our first 0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:40.520 sessions together. Those are our first records writing together. Because 0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:45.279 you know, I think you know the original Underdogs were 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:49.239 Damon Harvey and me. No, I don't think I knew 0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:54.600 that we started together. I made up to name. First 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:58.440 record is Tyrese. I liked them girls, first ever underdog record, 0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:04.560 and I left. I left the first time. They didn't 0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:06.440 want to make me a partner, which now I understand 0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:10.000 as I got older what I meant to them at 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:12.960 that stage. All I really brought with sweat equity, you 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:14.880 know what I mean. I'm kid, I'm like eighteen nineteen 0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.160 years old when when we make up the Underdogs and 0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:21.640 when I came back, Damon had called me and we 0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:24.040 just wanted me to come by the studio. At this point, 0:53:24.120 --> 0:53:26.759 I went done in singing, I got cracking, I'm doing 0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.880 my ship and this nig is there and this is 0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:36.960 all literally in the same week or two to come 0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:41.040 on to you show up. So those were the first 0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:46.040 records that Tank and I worked on together. Wow, that's crazy, 0:53:46.200 --> 0:53:49.120 yo album. It seemed like it wasn't that long ago though, 0:53:49.160 --> 0:53:52.319 because I remember being in the studio, you know, even 0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:54.160 with just you and I. It was some sessions where 0:53:54.200 --> 0:53:56.120 it just was me and you. You know what I'm saying, 0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:59.240 recording records, you know what I'm saying. And I remember 0:53:59.280 --> 0:54:00.880 coming to see you in the back room, you know 0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.279 what I mean, like, Yo, hold up, let me go 0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:07.640 see this, because it was just like we can click. Yeah, 0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:09.799 we clicked, you know, I mean we laughed about it. Man. 0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:11.960 I don't know if you remember. And then you remember 0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:16.840 like we shot Dice yeah yeah, yeah, yeah me and 0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:19.160 you're a little roddy. Yeah. I kept telling you not 0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:25.440 to shoot. I told you, yeah, yeah. I was like, no, not, 0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:29.800 I feel fast. It's like that's what I do, not 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:34.520 I said, let me get that. But no, no, this 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:37.560 is a wild ship and were all young niggas at 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:40.400 the time, but I think you're like eighteen eighteen years old. 0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:45.200 I'm making me maybe twenty one whatever, and you just 0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:48.719 came from doing the B two K shows by yourself? 0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:53.960 Can you flost me? Lost me? Just it was it 0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:58.239 was like, it was like, how did He was like, yeah, 0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:00.200 you know, because we saw about shooting Dice. I was like, 0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:02.400 you got I was a niggy. What you got on 0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:04.600 you Nike sho you like, I don't really got no cash, 0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:07.360 but you know I got this and the check was 0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:13.880 for a honey bum. I said, nigga, your money good? 0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:18.120 Oh yeah, yeah. I was acting up back then. Oh 0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:23.919 your money is good? Nick Cashers right here? Yeah yeah, 0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:31.960 oh my good list Yeah I was. I respected it 0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:35.960 with a snapper and he still rolled them. Don't do 0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:39.279 this with him. I don't know how he does it, 0:55:39.800 --> 0:55:47.960 but he always wins. Yeah. R listen. It was this 0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:51.560 funny ass picture. I gotta find it. I want to 0:55:51.600 --> 0:55:55.239 computer somewhere because we have been shooting Dice all night 0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:58.360 and got late. You just left and you left a 0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:02.720 couple of your rings. Oh I put them motherfucker's around 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:06.560 like a uh like an ox chord, like like an 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:09.920 ox cord and wrote on the sign, I want my 0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:16.279 fifteen thousand and two dance moves. Oh my goodness, Oh 0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:22.400 you'll never see a ring again. I need to see that. 0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:26.880 I'm gonna send this. I gotta find it. Here's a 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:30.920 part that that was really awesome to me. Um And 0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:35.200 within your artistry Rural to me at that time was 0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:41.320 like god dancer. It was like he was like I 0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:44.560 just thought he was the best thing since since she's 0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:46.920 and you know what I'm saying, since the Patty Meil. 0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:51.040 I was like that, you're you're different. And I tried 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:52.560 to do his choreography. I don't know if you, I 0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:56.479 don't know. Everybody told you choreographph that video, the freaky video, 0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:00.880 don't look that up, don't look like that. But I did. 0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:03.399 I did well. I did well. The song didn't work, 0:57:03.800 --> 0:57:06.200 but I did well. Something about me dancing the songs 0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:14.279 don't really anyway, So he's not you. Um And And 0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:19.160 I used to always watch ro Road do choreography, and 0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:22.360 I would always watch the dancers due to choreography, and 0:57:22.400 --> 0:57:27.320 I'd be like, it just didn't it didn't catch, it 0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:32.840 didn't match, it didn't And then I saw you doing 0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:39.600 ro Roast choreography, and I said, he's row row. Yeah, definitely, 0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.320 Like I don't know how you was one of my 0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:49.000 blands morphed into that, but I haven't seen You were 0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:51.680 the first. You were the you were the you. You. 0:57:51.840 --> 0:57:54.040 You did it the most you. You. You absorbed the 0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:57.840 style of the most there. With Jacob Latimore, who really 0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:03.280 shout JA, I was like Jacob, he's he's tough, but 0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:06.120 you were the first person I've ever seen be able 0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:11.240 to absorb that style, like like Nuance for Nuance, it 0:58:11.360 --> 0:58:14.520 wasn't just the moves. You got a sauce. Yeah, you 0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:18.560 gotta yeah, got a sauce. Because because I used to listen, 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:22.440 we used to I'm from record playing to the Underdogs. 0:58:23.600 --> 0:58:28.680 I used to watch you give Mr Chris Brown a 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:37.360 lot of business. Chris is so competitive, like he was like, fuck, hey, 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:42.160 when you do that? He and Din he could work 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.640 on it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And did 0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:51.840 he come back with more for you? Yeah? That was 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.920 a time. That was the time that I was watching 0:58:55.040 --> 0:59:00.080 two Titans, and especially at Record Plane, y'all was in 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:06.480 the hallway about a hour. That's true. It's crazy, that's true, 0:59:06.640 --> 0:59:11.440 that's true. And that was earning, sharpening iron like in 0:59:11.520 --> 0:59:15.120 those moments, Gabe put Chris on a mission. You know 0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:18.360 that that put Chris on a mission, Like I'm going 0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:21.680 to get him. Yeah, I'm gonna get him. It wasn't 0:59:21.720 --> 0:59:24.960 about nobody else. And I'm like, we'll ask him personally, 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:29.600 did anybody else make you mad? You made him mad? 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:36.200 Shout out to CB. I just saw some interview that 0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:38.600 he did and he was, you know, definitely complimented me 0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:41.360 about my dads and my journey. 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