1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: And money. Well than take vala. We are at all 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: things R and B ladies and gentleman. What's going on? 3 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: I am Tank Valentine and this Yeah this the RVY 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Money podcast, baby a glory on all things all, all 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: of it, R and B y Yeah, oh man, yeah 6 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: this is rare organic. Yeah, alcalin, alcalin R and B. 7 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: You you getting your fruits and badges? Yeah, you getting 8 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: your fruits and your waters you got Yeah. Very few 9 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: people go from child star, child superstar. You're grown man, 10 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: growing superstar. And this man has done it in all sectors, uh, TV, 11 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: film and music. Ladies and gentlemen, our brother our friends. 12 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: I loved one, Mr Marri Valentine. Thank you for having me, 13 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me yourself. Man. All is well, 14 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: All is well, and in alignment. Yeah yeah, you're using words. Listen, 15 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: I want to do I want to do a little 16 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: promoting off the top. Let's promote off the top of book. Yes, unbothered. Yes, 17 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: the power of choosing enjoy, the power of choosing joy 18 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: out right now. Yes, indeed, just give me give me 19 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: a couple of bars on that man, how did you 20 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: just what? What what made you take this road? And 21 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: upon completion. How do you feel with all of this, 22 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: have all this good stuff happening around this book? Yeah? 23 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: So you know, UM, my experience you know, with love uh, 24 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: in certain instances have been very public, you know. Um, 25 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: so my life truly inspired this book. You know. Um, 26 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: there is real power and you know, not allowing outside 27 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: forces to you know, cripple your mindset and your perspective. Um. 28 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Hence the you know drop title Choosing Joy and UM, 29 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, the fans dubbed me unbothered Mr Unbothered. You know, 30 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: they gave me that name, they gave me that title, 31 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: but it truly, uh, you know, gave a name to 32 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: a posture that I felt like I've been holding my 33 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: whole life, you know what I mean. So, UM, it's 34 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: journal prompts in there, it's meditation, it's um affirmation. UM, 35 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm really speaking from my personal experience and going through 36 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: this business and sharing the importance of you know, being 37 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: the master of your destiny, you know, UM, choosing you 38 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: know what's best for you. And because I went through 39 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: the things that I went through, you know, which was 40 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: pretty intense, seeing the value of being able to step 41 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: back and um not allow you know, people to control 42 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: my behavior is a powerful thing, you know. Um. I 43 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: feel like the culture really needs, you know, um, some 44 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: focus on emotional intelligence. You know, we all speak about 45 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 1: mental health, but it really truly starts with one step, 46 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, and that's you deciding, you know, um to 47 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: be where you will value to be, where you are appreciated, 48 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: UM to you know, um uh be unbothered. Yeah, there 49 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: goes a few bars for your tank. I think that 50 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: My brother Window used to tell me, don't let nobody 51 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: put your emotion. Mm hmmm. Don't let nothing or nobody 52 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: right put you in emotion. And in the beginning, it 53 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: started with you know, oh he's promoted to saying we 54 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: gotta or the people at the radio saying we gotta 55 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: said no, no, we'll move when it's time to move. 56 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: We don't have to react. Well, well, we'll let them 57 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: do what they're gonna do, and then we'll figure out 58 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. And then that's what we'll do, 59 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: not based on anything that's going on around us. But 60 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: when when you adopt it into your into your spirit, 61 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: into your everyday movements, it's like the choices you make 62 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: UM dictate how you live your life. You know what 63 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, so the choice that the underlying choosing joy 64 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: is a real choice that you have to make, you 65 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: have to want to make. They always called me the 66 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: glass half full, because that's how I choose to see 67 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: everything right. There is a reason for this, and within 68 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: this there's growth. There's going to be learning that understand 69 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: something in here for me, even if it's only one 70 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: little thing, I want to grab onto that and make 71 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: that the reason why I'm experiencing whatever this is. So, man, 72 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: I applaud you, Thank you, man, I applaud you, thank you. 73 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: You've seen the congratulations. Yeah. Um, hair your hair, yeah hair, 74 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: it's nice that you just did you for the pot? No? No, no, actually, um, yesterday, 75 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: Um I was on a Black Lady Sketch comedy show. 76 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: Yeah I just did that. Yeah, ball man, aren't they ball? Ye? 77 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: Don't don't? Yeah? Yeah, did you go crazy? No? Of course. 78 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: You know, when you get to be yourself, people don't 79 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: get you. Were get an opportunity in that space, and 80 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: I think I think those ladies for that where we 81 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: get to just change that fun straight up shout out 82 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: to Robbin, Yeah, Scott Robin is we just get to 83 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: let our hair down. Gabrielle get let our hair down 84 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: to have I mean, you let your here there, I'm 85 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: working on mine. I'm growing. I'm growing. It's some stuff 86 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: under here. I don't think. I don't think I ain't 87 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: got you know what I'm saying. I don't think I 88 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: ain't wavy. But all right, so listen, we've known you win. 89 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: But you know, we always treated as if there's somebody 90 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: watching for the first time, straight up, and they want 91 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: to know where did o'marion come from? Where? When was 92 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: the first time somebody said that boy good? When was 93 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: the first time you said in your mind, oh, ship, 94 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: I got something? Yeah, take us back to Inglewood, take 95 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: us back to the woods. Well, well, you know what, 96 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, Inglewood was a special place. And you know, 97 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: when you're from California, you know, back then, gangs didn't 98 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: look like what they look like now, you know what 99 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like gang gang. It didn't look like that. 100 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: It looked like brotherhood. It looked like being accepted in 101 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. You know, uh, you know, elders or o 102 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: g s looking after you, you know what I mean. Um, 103 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: so I was just an inner city kid, you know 104 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: what I mean? That love to you know, um, discover things. 105 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Um, I went to the 106 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Boys and Girls Club, you know. Um, I would say 107 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: it started for me at UM this um this fine 108 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: art school called LAFA That's where I went to. And 109 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: when I went to Lafa UM for the summer program, 110 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: every day we did something different. You know. We did 111 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: like seven or eight different dance styles. Uh, singing was 112 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: a part of it as well. But that's when I 113 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: booked my first quote unquote gig as a performer, you 114 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, I came in the game community. No, 115 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: actually through audition that was happening at the dance studio 116 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I was at, Yeah, and that's actually where I met 117 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: Ro Road for the first time to you know what 118 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean, on this audition a Road Cliff Um and 119 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: Ed Moore. You know what I'm saying. So before you know, 120 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: I came even into my artistry. You know, I was 121 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: very much just you know, an inner city you know 122 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: kid that just you know, had the biggest mole and 123 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, would try anything. You know what I'm saying. Um, 124 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: that's when I Um, I was thirteen, I booked my 125 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: first commercial, you know what I mean, My Pops commercial, 126 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: which Uh was shot at Dorsey, which is the high 127 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: school my mom went to. You know what I mean. 128 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: When you're from l A, you know, it's it's a 129 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: lot of places, but it's real small too, you know 130 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, um, my mom actually was a 131 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: hair stylus and she worked at a lot of the 132 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: prominent Um you know, she worked at Millennium. She used 133 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: to work at this other shop on Hollywood and Vine 134 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: called Afros of Hollywood. Um so yeah, man, I was 135 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: just an inner city kid, and you know what I mean, 136 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: I just you know, after my pop commercial, you know, 137 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: I got into B two K. You know what I'm saying. 138 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: And okay, so so at the time, um, one of 139 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: the managers was married to my play aunt. So my 140 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: plate on invited me to a New Year's party and 141 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: of course, you know everybody was there. You know this 142 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: house on Cold Facts actually, um right here in the 143 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: valley and everybody would be there is Actually before B 144 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: two K even became who we were, you know what 145 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: I mean. We're performed for Destiny Child. Destiny Child is 146 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: to come through Black used to come through seven oh two. 147 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. All of the girls, Yeah, 148 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: before you finished for the white people, Can you explain 149 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: to them with a plate? Okay, I know what you mean. 150 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: I would like for you to explain to them what 151 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: you know your mama home. Let me break it down. 152 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: Let me break it down. So my play on, um 153 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: was actually okay, well I have to take it back 154 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: because my nana, which would be my grandmother, was cool 155 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: with her mother, and you know, they used to run 156 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: this hair salon back in the day right off of Crenshaw. So, um, 157 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: that's how my play on. You know, and my mom 158 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: they were around the same age, so they essentially grew 159 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: up together. So you know, my mom had me at sixteen, 160 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: so she was like a child having a child, So 161 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: they grew up together. I grew up with him. So 162 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: that's how that's my play on. She's not literally blood, 163 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: but you know, she grew up with my mom, so 164 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: that's the play on. It's important. I mean, I could 165 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: start so far back, you know, with this, but really, 166 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, um, the highlight is is that you know, 167 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: I was just one of those type of kids that 168 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: was excited about life. You know, I had no fear virtually, 169 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: I could go anywhere I wanted to go, and you know, 170 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to entertain. I wanted to be seen from 171 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: Um jump that you that you just can remember that 172 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: you were just that kid that like I was dancing 173 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: for people when you when you kid that literally, oh 174 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: come downstairs and do the flip. I was that kid. 175 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: And also, um yeah, I was that kid. Oh do 176 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: that dance? Shut up? Oh MARII you know what I'm saying. 177 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: I was just I had so much energy, so you know, 178 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: it was just bound to happen. And also too, because 179 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: my mom was a hairstylar. She used to uh do 180 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: God's Properties hair. She just a lot of people in yeah, 181 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: in the industry hair. So I would be around that, 182 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Um, so yeah, I was 183 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: always like entertaining. I grew up in the entertainment business. 184 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to your mom. 185 00:11:55,280 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: Shout out for really giving you your first platform and 186 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: believing in it because a lot of times people's parents 187 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: they don't and this is something that that happens that 188 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: people don't speak about a lot. A lot of entertainers 189 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: were annoying kids like let's just be real, wait a minute, 190 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: that's that's a hilarious true. So when yeah, that's facts 191 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: work shut that, shut that, shut up. Yeah, yeah, you 192 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So so when I'm paring you, 193 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: he's saying they' worked to make no money, ain't right? 194 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: All these singing, all these damn songs. They're making no money. 195 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: But but shout out to the parents though, for real, 196 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: that that let the kids be creative? Yeah and make noise. Yeah, 197 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: yeah for the neighbors tolerated, ain't tolerated? You know what? 198 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: Because that it's a lot of people's dreams that get 199 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: shut down. That's true because sometimes the parents are the 200 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: surroundings may not even understanding exactly like a lot of 201 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: us are just as bad ass kid that won't shut 202 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: up when in actuality, this is a kid that could 203 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: grow to change lives and and and again back to 204 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: this first generation thing. It's like my parents looking at me, 205 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: sit in my room all day and make beats and 206 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: sing and write songs. You know what I mean. It's 207 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: kind of weird and not eat. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird. 208 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: Did you eat to like? You know, I'm gonna eating 209 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: a second? Do you know what time it is? It's 210 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: a p M. You haven't eaten all day? I still have. 211 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: I just move on my wake up clothes. I'm in 212 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: my drawers, right. But I was so consumed with something. 213 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know what it was. I don't know what 214 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: to do with it. I just knew that I had 215 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: to make a beat and I had to write a 216 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: song and I had to sing that. That's all I knew. Yeah, 217 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: I was making noise. I had real amps, you know 218 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like somebody my mother coming in and 219 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: kicking the door. Hey, hey, my nigga. But they got 220 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: you those amps. They bought them for me. So it 221 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: was like it was like listen. They didn't know how 222 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: to support it, but they also knew not to get 223 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: in the way. Right, he's working on something. I don't 224 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: know what he working on. Something didn't let him do 225 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: he go? Now? His kids be creative? Man, you get 226 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: him to be too, k What is that? What is 227 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: that conversation? Like? How does that conversation go? Easy? Moms 228 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: was like, Yo, do you want to be in a 229 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: group or what? Because you know, we was at the 230 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: New Year's um party and you know the other three 231 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: boys they started dancing and I'm like, oh, they like, 232 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, they're doing their choreography, you know what I mean? 233 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: And they're like, go ahead, Oh you know what I'm saying. 234 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: I sing and then I dance and then I hit 235 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: my back flip and they like, back flip. I got 236 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: to hit the backflip. Now, how do you well? You 237 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: know what. I taught myself how to backflip, So I 238 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: want to say, um, I was well in my double 239 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: hand backhands spring vibe, but I was like maybe fourteen 240 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: when I met there. Yeah, fourteen only try to backflip points. No, 241 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: it didn't go with never did it again? Know I'm good. Yeah. 242 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: The front flip though, I can get that, which don't 243 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: mean ship you know what I mean? You know I 244 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: mean it doesn't with no hands, it doesn't mean anything. 245 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: Did you have hands? That's called a dive roll. I'm 246 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: about to show you these these hands in what you're 247 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: doing in my little front flip. Let me come out 248 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: a self taught flippers are damaged individuals. Our bodies are messed. 249 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. One time I did twenty hands springs in 250 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: the road at Sherman Park on the grass. Oh my lord, going, 251 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: come on, you're still playing for it today? About pick 252 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: your feet? I flipped off of a garage once over 253 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: rotated and landing on my neck. Yeah, I was the 254 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: daredevil too, so if anything, yeah, that was anything. Come 255 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: on like that was that was life though, straight up 256 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, they got you in the group. It 257 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: just broke his damn neck. You actually stunching my growth. 258 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: Now we're supposed to be six six man. That was real. 259 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: This ship you see this monkey all off the back flip. 260 00:16:54,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: This is out of control. That's crazy. Those pieces six crazy. 261 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, now you're in the group. Ye now I'm 262 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: in the group. That's so that's literally your audition. Yeah 263 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: the party, yep, the party, like we got it. We 264 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: got young fellow, we need him. Yep. Come on you 265 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: you want to be in a group. Oh, you want 266 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: to be in a group. And I'm like thinking to myself, 267 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: like Dann, this would be dope. You know. I actually 268 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: was working on, um, you know, some solo stuff. I 269 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: was rapping. I actually did this song called I want 270 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: to be like Puff and I actually got my name 271 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: yeah I want to be like I was rapping. Yeah, 272 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: I started, I started rapping and did you have a wrap? Yeah? 273 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: I actually got my name from I used to be 274 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: in this rap crew with with all adults called the 275 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: Wild Kingdom. And um, there was this dude named Ruckets 276 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: that was in the group and he named me on Marian. 277 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: He was like, your name of Marian. I'm like, oh 278 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: did you what's the science? You know what I'm saying. 279 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: And Ian king forever. You know what I'm saying, Marian 280 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:06,239 Speaker 1: came forever. So really it's just going back to your 281 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: rooms at this point, is what you're telling us. Yeah, 282 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: this is where it start, you know what what I'm saying. 283 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: Wait minute, My name wasn't cool. It was just empt hurricane. 284 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: It didn't have the didn't have no kings and queens, 285 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: it didn't have no motherland, no sense of origin, just 286 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: a hurricane. So that's where your name comes from. Yep. 287 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: And then my mom you know, um, the the guy 288 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: that she was with at that time, you know, um, 289 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: he used to like manage producers and stuff like that. 290 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: So early on, you know what I mean, that machines, planning, fat, 291 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: all of that. I was exposed to all that. The planet. 292 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: Come on, think, come on, come on, you know all 293 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: around you as year is this though, Because I'm trying 294 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: to figure out I feel like I met you. I 295 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: met you in ninety. What do you what did you 296 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: do in the group? Did you join the group? It 297 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: was like it was like somewhere around there I met 298 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: you nine. Were you working with Dave Scott? Then we 299 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: played basketball together? Oh wow, I don't remember this. We 300 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: played basketball at a park close to More Park. I think, yeah, 301 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: something like that, because he was telling me that that 302 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: you you were in a group. It was I think 303 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: it was another another somebody else from the groups, like, yeah, 304 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: a dope, I'm working with him, be super dope. And 305 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, cool, I'm you know, because I 306 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: was just trying to do my artist thing. But I 307 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: was fresh off the tours singing backgrounds with Genuine and 308 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: he was dancing with Genuine and him got rid of club. 309 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy. Yeah we played basketball. Wow, that's crazy. 310 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: Before I think it was like a holiday or something 311 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: I was out here for like a Thanksgiving and yeah, 312 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: that's still wow. So now you're the new lead singer, yes, 313 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: the group? And do they have a deal yet? No, 314 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: we don't have a deal. You know, this process up 315 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: leading up to us getting a deal was, you know, 316 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: the schooling in which you know that has been that 317 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: gift that has constantly, you know, give to me, you 318 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like the drive, like working with 319 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: Dave because you know, I had took some dance classes obviously, 320 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but I never really worked 321 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: with an individual you know, like Dave, you know what 322 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And he really helped me develop as um 323 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, in that in that space, you know what 324 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it took like two to two and 325 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: a half three years of us just really being together 326 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: and like, you know, every day, you know, besides us 327 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: being in school. It was like, alright, for the weekend, 328 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: we're going over here, all y'all practice. All right. As 329 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: soon as y'all get up, anybody came through the door, 330 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 1: was like beach k performed, you know what I'm saying. 331 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: So we really um a lot of work. Yeah, we 332 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: put we we were developed. We were developed, you know 333 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's it is. It is because 334 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: you guys, you guys, you guys were ready. Yeah. The 335 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: first time I saw you, I was like, yo, yo, 336 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: we did that a gazillion times, you know, like and 337 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: I attribute you know, even my staying power and being 338 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: able to continue to transform our art and having that 339 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: that essence. You know what I mean? That that that 340 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: that eat you know that beginning time for me where 341 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: it was like okay, no, it ain't about getting it perfect, 342 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: It's about doing it over again. Now do it again. 343 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: Now do it again, Now do it again. You know 344 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I feel like you know, um, 345 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: all artists you know have a knack for you know, 346 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: a type of perfection. And you know what I'm saying. Um, 347 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what we was doing. Man, we was perfect. 348 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean we went to go see pretty much all 349 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: the labels. You know what I'm saying. We we we've 350 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: seen l a read. I speak about this in my 351 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: book too. You know, um, that experience of you know, 352 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: being denied, of being told no. And then you know 353 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: that last meeting was with you know, DamID Fishing and 354 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: Polly Anthony over at EPIC and it was like, Yo, 355 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: they had that conversation with us like yo, if y'all 356 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: don't get signed, and you know, like we pretty much 357 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: can't help y'all. You know what I mean. So we 358 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: was fourteen fifteen, you know, years old, dealing with all right, 359 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, if y'all if you're gonna make it or 360 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: not you know what I'm saying, or you're gonna do 361 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: the best performance you'll ever had or not. Y'all want 362 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: this deal or not? And obviously we got the deal 363 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: and then that was it. So every other label turned 364 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: you down? Yeah, yeah, every other label. You know, l 365 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: A Read flew us out. You know, that's the first 366 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: time I've ever been to the fourth season I put 367 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: on the road. Yeah yeah, yep, flew us out. We're like, oh, 368 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: we're signed, We're signed. Oh yeah, l A Read. You 369 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: know what was what was the label called at that time? 370 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: The face? Yeah, they was on fire, you know what 371 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We was like, yeah, we're home, and it 372 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: was like no, sir, no sir. Passed on y'all. So 373 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: at fourteen fifteen, how does that feel? How does that 374 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: feel when you feel like you went in front of 375 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: someone and gave your all, gave your best, You didn't 376 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: do like you said, you didn't practice this a gazillion times, 377 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: and you're like, this is my moment, and then you 378 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: get the phone call or after you perform, you see 379 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: the reaction and you're like, oh, I don't think this 380 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: is it? Like what is that feeling like for you? 381 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: For for a fourteen, fifteen year old kid. Well, you 382 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: know it kind of for me at that time, you 383 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, it kind of just went in 384 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: one air and went out the other, you know what 385 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying, just because you know, um, I don't think 386 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: that you know, we focused so much on like, you know, failure, 387 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, we were 388 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: kind of built in the you know space like all right, 389 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: let's you know, dissect this performance. Now, what could y'all 390 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: have done better? You know what I'm saying, Like what 391 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So every performance was kind 392 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: of like that. It wasn't like it was the end 393 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: of the world, you know for us a moment. Yeah, 394 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: it was just like okay, whoa, Well they didn't want 395 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: to you know, and you know what I'm saying, not 396 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: really realizing or recognizing that, you know, the business was 397 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: gonna be hinged on the people that were representing us, 398 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: not understanding that as a kid, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, 399 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, but knowing like, yo, I'm 400 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: coming here to give him of all. So okay, well 401 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: he didn't take us, that's fine. Well we got one 402 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: more meeting, right, all right, cool, well we're about to Yeah, 403 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: we you know, we was jumping on tables. That's really 404 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: how we got signed, you know what I mean. Like 405 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: when we were performing, we was like at you. You 406 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We're jumping off this doing it. 407 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's what essentially I 408 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: feel like I got ideal. But to answer your question, 409 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: I think it just felt like, all right, well whatever, 410 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, let's keep it going like 411 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: that's a that's a great mindset. That's a great mindset 412 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: to not let these things knock you down. Yeah, you know, 413 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: because you just at the end of the day, it's cliche, 414 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: but it's true. You just need one the right Yes, yeah, 415 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: just just one, that one and y'all got that. Yeah, yep. 416 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: And from that point when you guys get signed to Epic, 417 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: how long until the debut album? Well we uh, we 418 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: immediately started getting into recording, so they fast tracted. Yeah 419 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, They see TC we win 420 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: and got our diamond chains. Yeah yeah, we didn't got 421 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: the diamond chain and we got the locksmith. You know 422 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We went to Jacob You see that 423 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: was the first check knew that. Did you know you 424 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: were blowing it? Now? Did you think this was just oh, 425 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: it's just part of the gave of Steve. Now you 426 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: know what you count your money? Yet? Nah? We were kids, man, 427 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: We're just like, oh, we want that. Okay, here you go, Oh, 428 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: y'all want this? Okay, Well I'm gonna get this. And 429 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: then you know, he likell, I'm gonna get this one 430 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: right here. You know what I'm saying. So, you know, 431 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: just having access to that, we wasn't thinking about like, 432 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: hold up, I need this to stretch. Okay, I need this, 433 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: I need it. You know, Yeah, we didn't. We didn't 434 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: know about Yeah, because you think you're coming out tomorrow. 435 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: You think you think I was coming out to you? 436 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: Got this is itching me. I gotta get I gotta 437 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: get out there. I gotta I have to show right. 438 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: I have to let everybody know. Okay, I'm up, I'm up. 439 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: What's good? I need rims and the chain my name 440 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: on it exactly just in case they don't know who 441 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: I am. So, did you go to Fox Hills immediately 442 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: after you get your chain? No? Actually hit them all. 443 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: We were we were in New York. You know what, 444 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: Jacob was my first my first jeweler, you know what 445 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know, we was Yeah, we was 446 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: introduced properly and like all right, y'all boys, go over here, 447 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: and now we're gonna get you all in this outfit. 448 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna put you all up here right here, 449 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: and then y'all gonna do this and then it was 450 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: like heavy lit and it's funny. H Just to give 451 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: you this little nugget, we we I think we were 452 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: staying at the Hudson Downtown, New York and uh, we 453 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: get on the elevator and who's on the elevator. I 454 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: was about to say, ain't l a read? We were hot, 455 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: we most successful group. We get on the elevator. You know, 456 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: he's like, hey, what's up, guys. He was like, hey, 457 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: congratulations man, y'all doing great. And it was like, oh boom, 458 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: and that was a full circle moment for us. So yeah, 459 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: that was that was that was happening back then and 460 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: continues to happen. You know what I'm saying. All Right, 461 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: so let's let's I want to get to I want 462 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: to get to a song. Okay, I want to get 463 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: to I want to get the guys to be. Okay, 464 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: you're just gonna jump over, I don't mind. We can 465 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: go back to bumpump Okay, all right, that was my joy. 466 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 1: I got to be with my favorite. That's my favorite too, 467 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: got to be come on, as you know, as a 468 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: church kid, as a little Steve, as a you know, 469 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: as a singer and a vibe artist. Yah, gots to 470 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: be was a grown man period. Yeah, I knew you 471 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: were serious when I heard that record, because I actually 472 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: I hadn't met you yet. Yeah, I knew you were 473 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: serious at that point. Is that yeah? Yeah, yeah, for sure, 474 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: for sure, going for the heads, going for the number 475 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: one spot. It was such a record for kids to have, 476 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: but like pandemonia, it felt like pandemonia, but it was like, 477 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's it's about to turn all away into 478 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: these It was like, listen, digital boys, these grown women 479 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: ain't gonna be able to contain themselves with the vibrations 480 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: that are connected to this guy's the big record. Right, 481 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: come on, this is a problem. Yeah, was it a problem? Yeah? Yeah, listen, listen, listen. 482 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: I want to manage you and that's what come on? Yeah, yea, 483 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: I want to manage you hear me? Yeah, yeah, that's facts, 484 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: that's fact. And we was talking that talk and we 485 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: was walking that walk to yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Listen. 486 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: I was a young I was a young player out 487 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: here at that time, and y'all was definitely the little valance. 488 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. Okay, I like like, how was it? Like? Okay, 489 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: we got bump bump ump, great? Going crazy? Um, you 490 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: got going crazy? How is it? Going back to Inglewood? 491 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: How is it? Man? It's so much love, It's so 492 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: much love, you know what I mean? But all y'all 493 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: wasn't from Inglewood though. Everybody from parts of l a 494 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: um yep, different parts of l a Um No, but 495 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: everybody well not l A. You know, um songs from Compton, 496 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: something from West l A. And then yeah, I guess 497 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: you could say l A. But yeah, going back to Inglewood, man, 498 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because you know, I was 499 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: definitely tied to the soil on like my best friend, 500 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, steal in Inglewood, you know what I mean. 501 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: So I would be there all the time until until 502 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: I realized, wait a minute, I'm sitting out here on 503 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: the porch. I need to go back in the house. 504 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because um, you know there 505 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: was a time you know what I mean, Uh, when 506 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: when l A has just got real violent, you know 507 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: as far as the game culture goes, you know what 508 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I was going back, but I wasn't, 509 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, like processing that's like, yo, you know, you 510 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: got some shows in a couple of weeks, right and 511 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: you know anybody could come over here and start shooting 512 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: right now. But you know what though, when you grow up, yeah, 513 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: in that element, it takes a minute. It's hard to 514 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: process that you're what you're what you're really growing up in. 515 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: These are the same streets out and ran up in 516 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: the tag and flipped off of that's and they were 517 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: at an age where friends start going different ways like 518 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: that's that that teenage fourteen thirteen, fourteen fifteen is when 519 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: your homeboy. When y'all was tending eleven, y'all was just homies. 520 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Now he's from a different side of the street, are 521 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: from another block block away, and now in in l A, 522 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: y'all have a whole another culture with the colors what 523 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying of like and people don't like most people 524 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: don't realize, like you went to school with Nip. Yeah, yeah, 525 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: high school Joe Pottner growing up, you know what I'm saying. 526 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: So I'm sure he's probably seen and you early on like, yo, damn, 527 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: that's my homie as he jumping off the porch. Though, 528 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: that's facts, that's facts, that's facts, you know what I mean. 529 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: So it's just like you're saying, like that experience for 530 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: you being at home, where you seeing you fifteen, sixteen whatever. 531 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: At that point you're like, damn, the homies is really 532 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: out here, active, straight up, straight up and from different sizes. Now, 533 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: that's facts, that's facts. You can't even pick a side. 534 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I might just have to get out 535 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: of here. Yeah, I mean, it definitely was fun though, 536 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Pulling up you know what 537 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. All my whips in the hood, they're like, whoa, 538 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: what is this? You have to do that? What is that? 539 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, we out, you know, Yeah, that's 540 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: the first whip. What's the first? What's the first? My 541 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: first whip? I bought myself c O five hundred three TVs. 542 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: Y'all remember how we used to do it? You know, 543 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: did you go to Global Times? I was I was 544 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: a three ten. I was like, over have full sounds, 545 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, swede headline to come on with the crown 546 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: in the headline. You know what I mean. He swayed 547 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: on the seat, you know, he swayed on the floor. 548 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, eighteen eighteen yeah, eighteen out of control? Yeah 549 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: for real? Playing jay Z. Excuse me? What's your name? 550 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, shot out to my potting to 551 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Chris Mills and three one all tis all the whips. 552 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: Chris Mills was the coldest to ever. That's facts. That's 553 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: I've never seen nobody flip cars like him ever. That's facts. 554 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: And he was in a different one every day every day. 555 00:33:54,440 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: That's facts. That guy brou With just the first guy saw, 556 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: first guy ever saw take off his shoes, his snickers, 557 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: put them in the in the lambow trunk which was 558 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: in the front front, and then put on his house shoes. 559 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, drive to drive his car. Watch him. 560 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: I was like, that's different. Let's try that. You have 561 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:38,800 Speaker 1: to team Broney yeah, ce L five man and but 562 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: car has always been a part of my journey. You 563 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't have so many whips. 564 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying cars always whips. You know what I'm saying, 565 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: I don't even gotta have nowhere to live, make all 566 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: I care about. I don't care somebody's gonna let me 567 00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: spend a night with You don't know where I'm going 568 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: to that town house? Like yeah, yeah, like trying to 569 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: back am I am? I clothed? Hilarious? Yeah so what Yeah? 570 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: So now with the sixth, with all of the success, 571 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: what is the inspiration or or what in fact makes 572 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: you decide I'm going solo? Is solo before you guys said, 573 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: it's solo a thing that's like in the beginning, right, 574 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: It's solo a thing like let's get these solo projects 575 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: off and then let's get back to business or what 576 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: Solo a thing where I'm like running course? Right? So, um, 577 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: it was like it was two phases from my personal 578 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: perspective and experience, you know. And one was that we 579 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 1: all were doing separate UM covers for the Pandemonium album, 580 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: and you know, we all kind of felt away, you know, 581 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: different about that. You know what I'm saying, Oh, I'm 582 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: gonna have my cover or you're gonna have your cover, 583 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: or we're all gonna have covers. It's little you know 584 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Oh, I'm about to go solo. You 585 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Um, that was kind of the conversation, 586 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it was it was 587 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: all It was all supported, you know, up until the 588 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: time that the group separated. And that was for me. 589 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: It was not initially my plan to be a solo artist, 590 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I was already a 591 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: solo artist. You know what I'm saying. I already was 592 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: developing myself in music, you know what i mean. So 593 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: once I got in the group, it was a conscious 594 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: decision that it was something that it was, you know, 595 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a part of this is zick. You know 596 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, you know, but right up until 597 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, it was like a lot of the business 598 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: was super convoluted, you know, Um, people had to pick 599 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: size you know. The boys was basically you know, like 600 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: on the other side, you know what i mean. And 601 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: it was like You're coming with us, and I'm like, 602 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: oh I am, and I'm like, okay, well I roll 603 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: with y'all, So I guess I gotta go back with y'all, 604 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: you know what i mean. Literally in the car, you know, 605 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, um, and then it kind of just 606 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: unfolded from there, you know what I mean. We went 607 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: through a lot of I guess, uh unnecessary you know, 608 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: tumultuous things because it was people in the middle, you know, 609 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: really kind of architecting, you know, are our differences, you 610 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and putting putting them against us, 611 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, yeah, yeah, 612 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: and I mean like yo, as soon as as soon 613 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: as as soon it was like, you know, we had 614 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: the situation that separated us. That was pretty much like yo, 615 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: oh was going with us, y'all do whatever y'all want 616 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: to do, you know, which in hindsight, I didn't know 617 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: what created in my city towards me, you know, from them, 618 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then I'm like in 619 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: the studio and then I'm hearing these niggas is on 620 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: you know what i mean, the radio station, and they 621 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: this in me. So now I'm like, y'all niggas, you 622 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm going again on my ship, 623 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um. And that's why you know, 624 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: not to go super fast forward. But that's why the 625 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: millennium tour was so special, you know what I'm saying, um, 626 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 1: because in hindsight, it was a lot of people in 627 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: the middle of of conversations that you know, we should 628 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: have had, you know what I'm saying, We should you know, 629 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: dealt with you know what I mean. But we were kids, 630 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So we didn't know how 631 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: to articulate, like, Yo, what's up? You know what I'm saying, Whip. No, 632 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: we didn't. And and you know, I I would say 633 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: that like my experience is with the group, it was 634 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: almost like it was really a lot of outside voices 635 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: controlling what was going on in the inside. But you know, 636 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: in the inside, it was up to us, you know, 637 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: to have that bond, you know what I mean. So 638 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: we didn't know how to be responsible, you know, with 639 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: each other, you know what I mean. It's like you 640 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: gotta bro, you know what I mean. But in hindsight, 641 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: it's like your bro lives in a separate household, so 642 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: his values and the way that he deals with things 643 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: is completely different from your growing up in your experiences, 644 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: and if you don't get an opportunity to reconcile that, 645 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's what essentially created the you know, um, 646 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: the you know, the head butting and you know the 647 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: disrespect and you know all of that. You know what 648 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, So yeah, I think, like you know, 649 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: it's difficult to backtrack in those type of situations when 650 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: so much, when so much has happened to lead up 651 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: to Yeah, the bad energy it was because it's like 652 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: as you say, with the with the with the architects 653 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: saying that we're trying to that have their own agenda 654 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: and needed to do whatever they needed to do to 655 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: make sure that things happen their way. You know what 656 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean? It created so much distance to where without 657 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: those conversations, without that communication and without that understanding, that 658 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: that distance was filled up with so much hate, negativity, 659 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: back and forth and things that nobody knew if they 660 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: really meant. But I gotta say something back or I 661 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: gotta feel something back. You know what I'm saying? What 662 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: what they say? But what do you say? What? And 663 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: and not one, not at one time did were you 664 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: able to? Because here's here's what happens. When you watched 665 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: The Godfather and the Godfather is talking to Michael, and 666 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: he says, whoever comes to you and tells you about 667 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: the meeting. He's the trader. So many times I'd oftend 668 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: whoever the person is coming to you saying, they were 669 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: saying yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right right yeah, well yeah, 670 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: is more than likely helping to orchestrate or continue to 671 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: orchestrate the division. Yeah between you, between you and or 672 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: between them, and like yeah, I don't wanna rock with 673 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: you like that? Like that got you though? Yeah whatever 674 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: that Yeah, And you know, that's been a large part 675 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: of my experience, even in maturing in business, you know 676 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, you know, just other agendas, you 677 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and things being convoluted and not 678 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: communicated properly, and you know, no real space to have 679 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: those important conversations, you know what I'm saying. And then 680 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,399 Speaker 1: in hindsight, you know, being a man now and having 681 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: a child and seeing you know, my son and then realizing, 682 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, when kids are young, how it's really like, 683 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: you know, your responsibility to make sure that you have 684 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: that environment for them to feel safe and for to 685 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: be protected and to learn you know what I'm saying. 686 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: And yeah, man, that's largely been my you know experience, 687 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: and that's why I've always you know, continue to just 688 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: take responsibility for myself and you know my endeavors and 689 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: what I say and what I do. You know that 690 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: is important to me because not always have I had 691 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: the opportunity to set the records strate you know what 692 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,919 Speaker 1: I'm saying. And also too, you know, just just looking 693 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: at my journey, you know what I mean, I'm like one. 694 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm the only artist other than Beyonce. You know. 695 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: Um that is like Michael Jackson, that comes from a group, 696 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: a shared space, a shared experience on stage. You know, 697 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: that's different from being a solo artist or deciding that 698 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: I my solo act. This is all about me, you 699 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So um, you know, I feel 700 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: like my experience is unique in that way, you know 701 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like where I come from, you know, 702 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: the group, and now I even share the stage with 703 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: my dancers, and it's a different experience for me as 704 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: a solo artist. And I love you, but I'm not 705 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: gonna let you forget Bobby Brown. Okay, you're gonna have 706 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,760 Speaker 1: to mention but but but you gotta mention but but Bobby. 707 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: But Bobby still was in a closer error than than Mike. 708 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like his error was still closer, 709 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, I mean he directly influenced you know, Bobby. 710 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, we were 711 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: come in generations, you know, at least two or three 712 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: down generations. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, for sure, 713 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: you show, you gotta mention, you know, you gotta miss 714 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: your boy there he might trap like I had to 715 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: break up a fight between by I don't want that 716 00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: to No. We we we we definitely, we definitely. But 717 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean even his experience was a little bit different. 718 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: You know, he was in the group, and then that's true, 719 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. Well, yeah, I don't know the 720 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: full story. I don't know the full story. We couldn't 721 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: let Bobby go. We thought he was a major talent. 722 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: Felt like we felt like we could do something with 723 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: this kid. He was a special kid, and we gave 724 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: him an opportunity to go solo. So so because of 725 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: that experience, you know what I mean, Like my me, 726 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: me stepping into being a solo artist was completely different 727 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: from you know, Bobby and my and my um and 728 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: my personal uh you know experience, you know what I'm saying, 729 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: Like b two K you know, not up until you 730 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: know the docu and this last fifteen year you know, 731 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: reunion that things feel like, Okay, it's not undone. You 732 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Okay, you know we can perform. 733 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 1: This is this is about us. This is not about 734 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, any outside business people. It's up to us, 735 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that was something that 736 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, Um, I feel like, you know, it was 737 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: unique to me, you know what I mean, because uh, 738 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 1: you know, I guess you know, justin you know, it's 739 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: one too, justin this one too, now that I'm thinking 740 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: about it, justin this one too. Um. But yeah, you know, 741 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: stepping in the solo start you know into that. It 742 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: wasn't planned, you know, it wasn't something that I remember. 743 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: I remember like obviously we were first. Yeah, I remember 744 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 1: just us building our bond and me seeing you hurt 745 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: like you were hurt by that. If I can say that, 746 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Of course, like a lot 747 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: of people think that it's just like, oh, you know, 748 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: he got a new deal and now he's just he 749 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: forgot about it. He up and and no. But it's 750 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: like it's a brotherhood connected to the there are you know, 751 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: they're family bonds there, you know. I mean, there's just 752 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: it's more than just music. And I remember just meeting you, 753 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: right I think ship it felt like it was right there. Yeah, 754 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: it was. It was right there, you know what I mean, 755 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: And and us having those conversations and you just really 756 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: being like like, I'm here, but it's my dogs though, 757 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's my guys, and 758 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 1: now I gotta do this album. And literally it was 759 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: like you just got thrown into it, fact facts, facts quick, 760 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: and from us, from the from the creative side, from 761 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: the writing and producing side, uh with with with us 762 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: and the other dogs. It was more so like, okay, 763 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: how do we help this young fellow man, you know, 764 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: moving to this new space to this And the craziest 765 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: thing that you probably don't know what Nickas didn't have 766 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: no records for you. Okay, No, I didn't know that 767 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,719 Speaker 1: y'all made them right there. Yeah, But it wasn't like 768 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't even no real prep for you. Because I 769 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: think now looking back on it, since all that was 770 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: happening so fast, you got thrown into the sessions that 771 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: we were already doing. There were already projects that we 772 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: were working on that, the building the machine of the 773 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: Underdogs was working on and then it was just like damn, there, 774 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: marian is coming almost on some favorite ship y'all know, 775 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 1: the young fellow right from the group. Like it was 776 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: that and the craziest thing, bro, you know, twenty years 777 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: later we can have a full conversation. Is Nikkas wasn't 778 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 1: trying to do record for you? That's crazy. You're looking 779 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 1: at the two niggas who were who end up doing them. 780 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: That's facts on the All Star we can we talked 781 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: about it before, you know what I mean, on some 782 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: on some prior podcast, we didn't. We didn't go in 783 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,439 Speaker 1: depth because we knew you were coming, so we would 784 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: have the real conversation with you here. Now that's amazing, 785 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: And you know what, that makes sense. That makes sense 786 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: because I was there when the Underdogs broke up. I remember, Okay, 787 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: I remember the niggas was about to fight. Yeah yeah, 788 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 1: I remember, and you know I got a little Roger 789 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: come on, Mr Rogers, this is come on, my nigh 790 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: come because because because Mario was coming, yeah yeah yeah, 791 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: And you don't understand what working for you, working on 792 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:19,239 Speaker 1: your project did for me at that time. Um, that 793 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: was your Oh was my first sign of freedom, of 794 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: being free, being back able to create, not being bogged 795 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: down with with with the pressures and the you know, 796 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: I was going through a thing. I could not make songs, 797 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: I could not make a beat. Nothing was landing. And 798 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: one day I had to be honest with myself. I said, 799 00:49:52,560 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 1: this isn't working for me. I'm out. That's what came 800 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:14,399 Speaker 1: from it. The same day we knocked that wall down together. Yeah, sir, 801 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the same garling. It's going through lady singing, Oh, 802 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 1: come on up next, same on me. I'm glad so 803 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: you can say oh the mon oh in the night 804 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: saying on me, come on this. This is this that's 805 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: represents so much. I was free. Yeah, these guys made 806 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 1: me at the studio and we was like on the weekend, 807 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: it was just us dark empty, Tony Dixon, Eric Dawkins, 808 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: tank and that's facts. He was like, listen, listen, this 809 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: is this is it. We just then it was then 810 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:23,919 Speaker 1: it was yeah, yeah, he was just like the day, Yeah, 811 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:43,720 Speaker 1: that's nothing that Jack. It's like, hey, I was still around. 812 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: I was stealing around, my long around. I was still 813 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 1: see from being the reason we turned out this way, 814 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: act like I don't want to be with you, man, 815 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: Why don't won Come on? It was down, it was 816 00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: going down. I was back in my bag. Come on, 817 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,879 Speaker 1: come on. I was not in my bag before then. 818 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: I was hurting before then. And that was those sessions. 819 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: Working with you, working with Jay, working with Tony, and 820 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: working with Eric that one weekend put me on a wave. 821 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is bro and I don't think 822 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: we've ever told you this. Ultimately, that was our first 823 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:40,520 Speaker 1: sessions together. Those are our first records writing together. Because 824 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: you know, I think you know the original Underdogs were 825 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: Damon Harvey and me. No, I don't think I knew 826 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: that we started together. I made up to name. First 827 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: record is Tyrese. I liked them girls, first ever underdog record, 828 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: and I left. I left the first time. They didn't 829 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: want to make me a partner, which now I understand 830 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: as I got older what I meant to them at 831 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: that stage. All I really brought with sweat equity, you 832 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm kid, I'm like eighteen nineteen 833 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 1: years old when when we make up the Underdogs and 834 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: when I came back, Damon had called me and we 835 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: just wanted me to come by the studio. At this point, 836 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: I went done in singing, I got cracking, I'm doing 837 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: my ship and this nig is there and this is 838 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 1: all literally in the same week or two to come 839 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: on to you show up. So those were the first 840 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: records that Tank and I worked on together. Wow, that's crazy, 841 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: yo album. It seemed like it wasn't that long ago though, 842 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,319 Speaker 1: because I remember being in the studio, you know, even 843 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: with just you and I. It was some sessions where 844 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,120 Speaker 1: it just was me and you. You know what I'm saying, 845 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,240 Speaker 1: recording records, you know what I'm saying. And I remember 846 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: coming to see you in the back room, you know 847 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 1: what I mean, like, Yo, hold up, let me go 848 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,640 Speaker 1: see this, because it was just like we can click. Yeah, 849 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 1: we clicked, you know, I mean we laughed about it. Man. 850 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember. And then you remember 851 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 1: like we shot Dice yeah yeah, yeah, yeah me and 852 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,160 Speaker 1: you're a little roddy. Yeah. I kept telling you not 853 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 1: to shoot. I told you, yeah, yeah. I was like, no, not, 854 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 1: I feel fast. It's like that's what I do, not 855 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 1: I said, let me get that. But no, no, this 856 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: is a wild ship and were all young niggas at 857 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: the time, but I think you're like eighteen eighteen years old. 858 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm making me maybe twenty one whatever, and you just 859 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: came from doing the B two K shows by yourself? 860 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: Can you flost me? Lost me? Just it was it 861 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: was like, it was like, how did He was like, yeah, 862 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, because we saw about shooting Dice. I was like, 863 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: you got I was a niggy. What you got on 864 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: you Nike sho you like, I don't really got no cash, 865 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 1: but you know I got this and the check was 866 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 1: for a honey bum. I said, nigga, your money good? 867 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. I was acting up back then. Oh 868 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:23,919 Speaker 1: your money is good? Nick Cashers right here? Yeah yeah, 869 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: oh my good list Yeah I was. I respected it 870 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: with a snapper and he still rolled them. Don't do 871 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: this with him. I don't know how he does it, 872 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: but he always wins. Yeah. R listen. It was this 873 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: funny ass picture. I gotta find it. I want to 874 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 1: computer somewhere because we have been shooting Dice all night 875 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: and got late. You just left and you left a 876 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,720 Speaker 1: couple of your rings. Oh I put them motherfucker's around 877 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 1: like a uh like an ox chord, like like an 878 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: ox cord and wrote on the sign, I want my 879 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand and two dance moves. Oh my goodness, Oh 880 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 1: you'll never see a ring again. I need to see that. 881 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send this. I gotta find it. Here's a 882 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 1: part that that was really awesome to me. Um And 883 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: within your artistry Rural to me at that time was 884 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 1: like god dancer. It was like he was like I 885 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: just thought he was the best thing since since she's 886 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying, since the Patty Meil. 887 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: I was like that, you're you're different. And I tried 888 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:52,560 Speaker 1: to do his choreography. I don't know if you, I 889 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,479 Speaker 1: don't know. Everybody told you choreographph that video, the freaky video, 890 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 1: don't look that up, don't look like that. But I did. 891 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,399 Speaker 1: I did well. I did well. The song didn't work, 892 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: but I did well. Something about me dancing the songs 893 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: don't really anyway, So he's not you. Um And And 894 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: I used to always watch ro Road do choreography, and 895 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: I would always watch the dancers due to choreography, and 896 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:27,320 Speaker 1: I'd be like, it just didn't it didn't catch, it 897 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: didn't match, it didn't And then I saw you doing 898 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: ro Roast choreography, and I said, he's row row. Yeah, definitely, 899 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't know how you was one of my 900 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 1: blands morphed into that, but I haven't seen You were 901 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: the first. You were the you were the you. You. 902 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 1: You did it the most you. You. You absorbed the 903 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: style of the most there. With Jacob Latimore, who really 904 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: shout JA, I was like Jacob, he's he's tough, but 905 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: you were the first person I've ever seen be able 906 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 1: to absorb that style, like like Nuance for Nuance, it 907 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: wasn't just the moves. You got a sauce. Yeah, you 908 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 1: gotta yeah, got a sauce. Because because I used to listen, 909 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: we used to I'm from record playing to the Underdogs. 910 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: I used to watch you give Mr Chris Brown a 911 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: lot of business. Chris is so competitive, like he was like, fuck, hey, 912 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 1: when you do that? He and Din he could work 913 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And did 914 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 1: he come back with more for you? Yeah? That was 915 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: a time. That was the time that I was watching 916 00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,080 Speaker 1: two Titans, and especially at Record Plane, y'all was in 917 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: the hallway about a hour. That's true. It's crazy, that's true, 918 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 1: that's true. And that was earning, sharpening iron like in 919 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 1: those moments, Gabe put Chris on a mission. You know 920 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: that that put Chris on a mission, Like I'm going 921 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,680 Speaker 1: to get him. Yeah, I'm gonna get him. It wasn't 922 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: about nobody else. And I'm like, we'll ask him personally, 923 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: did anybody else make you mad? You made him mad? 924 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 1: Shout out to CB. I just saw some interview that 925 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 1: he did and he was, you know, definitely complimented me 926 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 1: about my dads and my journey. So salute to see. 927 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: B R and b Money is a production of the 928 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: Black Effects podcast Network, but more podcasts from I Heart 929 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 1: Radio visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or 930 00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 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