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Speaker 3: My boyfriend's ex showed up years later to tell him

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Speaker 3: he had secret twins.

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Speaker 4: Why are we keeping baby secret?

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Speaker 3: Maybe the babies were invisible? We'll find out soon. We

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Speaker 3: have been together for just over four years, so this

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Speaker 3: must have happened just before we got together, or else

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Speaker 3: we would have had to have an entirely different conversation.

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Speaker 3: I'm still working on finding out the exact dates of

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Speaker 3: when all of this took place. But I got a

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Speaker 3: message from a woman yesterday claiming to be the mother

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Speaker 3: of a set of twins that she says are from

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Speaker 3: my boyfriend.

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Speaker 5: Course okay o proof proof proof now proof Poof of course,

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Speaker 5: I had a ton of questions before I would believe her,

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Speaker 5: So this is.

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Speaker 3: What I found out from her. By the way, this

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Speaker 6: Someone someone got spawned somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I did not mean to summon whatever creature I summoned.

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Speaker 3: So here's the information. Tammy and my boyfriend Eric met

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and nine and started casually dating. They

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Speaker 3: were never exclusive. She said that she told Eric that

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Speaker 3: her birth control wasn't working for her and she'd stopped

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Speaker 3: taking it, but Eric still wanted to not use protection.

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Speaker 3: You're still up a week later, and then she found

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Speaker 3: out she was pregnant a month later. Use protection.

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Speaker 4: That's how that work.

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Speaker 3: That's why we used protection.

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Speaker 6: The learning lesson of the day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of all of these stories.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm out of all these stories.

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Speaker 3: Is guys protection when you don't want kids, don't want

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Speaker 3: secret twins used protection. She says that they ended on

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Speaker 3: terrible terms, quote unquote, and she didn't think it would

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Speaker 3: be in the best interest of the children to have

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Speaker 3: him in their life. She made it sound as if

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Speaker 3: she was afraid of him. She thought she could do

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Speaker 3: this on her own, and until a month ago she

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Speaker 3: was doing all right. She was living with her mother

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Speaker 3: and working full time as well and taking night classes

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Speaker 3: to finish school. Then her mother passed away and she

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Speaker 3: got laid off. Now she's homeless and has nowhere else

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Speaker 3: to turn to. Holy crap, that's a rough hand. She

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Speaker 3: sent me pictures of the two girls and a holy crap,

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Speaker 3: they look just like Eric. I don't know if that

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Speaker 3: is my mind playing tricks on me, but he is

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Speaker 3: from the Philippines, Philippins, Filipino boy spotted Philippins, we got

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Speaker 3: mentioned baby and has a very very distinguished face that

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Speaker 6: That's just all.

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Speaker 3: We all look alike this I'm wondering about beings just like.

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Speaker 4: They look exactly like him, and it's just like those

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Speaker 4: are those are just Filipino people.

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Speaker 7: Those literally like all Filipinos, like you could be cousin,

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Speaker 7: you can be brother, mother, father, we all know.

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Speaker 3: That's right, folks, It's crazy, that's right. They are the

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Speaker 3: spitting image of Eric. I have set up a breakfast

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Speaker 3: between me and her for tomorrow morning. The only reason

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Speaker 3: I'm holding this information from Eric right now is because

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Speaker 3: just last week we had the kids talk. We are

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Speaker 3: almost feel like I need to scope out this woman

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Speaker 3: will put him over the edge. He also has a

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Speaker 3: giant presentation in front of the board of advisors at

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Speaker 3: his work tomorrow, and he's already throwing up at just

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Speaker 3: the thought of how nervous he is.

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Speaker 4: That's fair to not tell, because I was gonna say

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Speaker 4: you should tell him, but like, maybe wait until after

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Speaker 4: the present.

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Speaker 3: It's just a little bit of good timing. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 3: what am I dealing with here?

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Speaker 6: Reddit?

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Speaker 3: I know I have to tell my boyfriend, But then what?

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Speaker 3: What are questions I need to ask this woman when

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Speaker 4: You have proof?

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Speaker 3: Right? Where's the proof? Give me the pudding? How do

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Speaker 3: I keep this civil? I don't know what it means

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Speaker 3: when she says they ended on bad terms. Eric is

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Speaker 3: ever being a person who would scare someone so much

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Speaker 3: that they are keeping his kids from him. I know

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Speaker 3: the first thing we have to do is get a

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Speaker 3: paternity test, but I'm already trying to plan for after

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Speaker 3: that because they look so much like him. This is

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Speaker 3: the man I want to spend the rest of my

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Speaker 3: will welcome them with open arms. But what would that mean?

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Speaker 3: I can see this getting extremely ugly, extremely quickly. Please

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Speaker 3: help me hold this together as best as I can

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Speaker 3: and at it. Even with the first few comments, I

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Speaker 3: can see that I need to tell Eric about this now. Ugh.

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Speaker 3: I have called him and asked that he comes straight

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Speaker 3: home from work to talk about it. Wait.

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Speaker 4: Know he has a presentation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have probably freaked him out, but I don't

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Speaker 3: want to do this over the phone, and he hardly

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Speaker 3: we'll keep updating after talking to him.

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Speaker 4: No, it lit his presentations tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Just wait a day. Listen to the wrong comments.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, dude, wait a day. Maybe some of the

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Speaker 3: comments were good. We have some comments here, Maybe some

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Speaker 3: of them were good. I would have waited as well.

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Speaker 3: Wait not very long.

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Speaker 4: Growing up from the presentation.

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Speaker 3: Just wait a day. Or maybe it's the maybe it's

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Speaker 3: the opposite effect. Maybe now he's he's throwing up about

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Speaker 3: the Board of advisors.

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Speaker 4: He's like, the presentation means nothing now that I'm worried

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Speaker 3: And a lot of times when you get that nonchalant

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Speaker 3: nothing to lose energy, that's when you crush stuff the hardest,

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Speaker 3: Like hey guys, He's like, hey guys, I'm actually way

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Speaker 3: too busy thinking about my secret twins that I didn't

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Speaker 3: know about. I got two kids. Yeah, here we go.

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Speaker 3: I just I just woke up found out I had

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Speaker 4: Yeah, presentation, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I got to go.

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Speaker 4: What do we even do at this job?

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Speaker 3: Everybody pay attention because I got things to do. Coming.

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Speaker 3: Number one? This is fishy. Why would she message you

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Speaker 3: and not Eric? How does she know you're his girlfriend?

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Speaker 3: Opie says. I did ask her this. She said that

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Speaker 3: she has either blocked him or he blocked her on

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Speaker 3: He is listed, so she just didn't try hard enough.

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Speaker 3: Her weird answers just make me assume that she's either

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Speaker 3: so I was the next best option. Reply how did

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Speaker 3: she know you were his girlfriend? Though? That is my

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Speaker 3: main question. The big question is is she's stalking him?

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Speaker 3: You need to talk to him, Opie, dang, I didn't

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Speaker 3: even think about that on her Facebook. It says that

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Speaker 3: picked her location because of where he is. Reply, you

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Speaker 3: need to tell your boyfriend, asapp do not go to

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Speaker 3: the meeting. See what he has to say about her first.

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Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, don't go to the meeting with the stranger right.

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Speaker 3: If he has any reasons to believe the kids might

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Speaker 3: be his, you need to contact a lawyer immediately. Op

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Speaker 3: he says. I've called him and said he needs to

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Speaker 3: come home right after work to talk. But we should

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Speaker 3: what he wants to do about the meeting. Luckily, I

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Speaker 3: have an amazing lawyer who can help us if we

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Speaker 3: need it. And there's a second comment. But first of all,

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Speaker 3: I just want to say, could you have maybe told

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it didn't sound like you were breaking up with them. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean this is maybe I would have done.

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Speaker 7: He's Filipino, he's used to it. He loves the drama.

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Speaker 7: We love drama.

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Speaker 4: Dude, if we're doing like like day off, well, first

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Speaker 4: of all, I would have done a day off. I

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Speaker 4: would have done it post presentation. But if we're doing

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Speaker 4: I'm texting him like thirty minutes before it works over. Hey,

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Speaker 4: I just found out some serious news. You need to

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Speaker 4: talk about it with you. You could probably reassure enough

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Speaker 4: to be like, it's not really no one's injured, no

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Speaker 3: It's not necessarily an emergency. It's just very important. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I love you.

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Speaker 4: And I love you. We're good. Kisses. I'm making lazagna tonight.

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Speaker 4: Take notes, folks, Dude, I'm thinking of la over here.

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Speaker 4: I made a vegan lasagna like ten years ago and

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Speaker 4: it was so good. Wow, it had kite hill ricotta

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Speaker 3: Imagine how good it taste now that it's been fermented

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Speaker 3: for ten years. Like a wine, like a fine wine.

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Speaker 3: Lasagna wine coming. Number two. My guess is he's never

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Speaker 3: even met this woman and she's attempting to scam you.

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Speaker 4: Did she photoshop the children.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so are the children photoshop Like? They're literally your husband.

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Speaker 3: You're like, they look just like him, it's just his

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Speaker 4: Oh she did like the she did the thing where

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Speaker 4: you can combine your face with someone else's to make

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Speaker 3: Yeah. She she just did a straight up Facebook scam.

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Speaker 3: She probably emails a ton of people on Facebook simply

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Speaker 3: looking up their boyfriend's name and claims she's the mother

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Speaker 3: of the boyfriend's kids, and anyone who responds back she

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Speaker 3: gives the same story to for real. The other day

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Speaker 3: on here, someone had a post saying, Wow, a long

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Speaker 3: lost sibling contacted me, and it turned out to be

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Speaker 3: a scammer. The person never had a long lost sibling.

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Speaker 3: The scammer just used that lie to get people to

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Speaker 3: talk to him or her and eventually steal their personal

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Speaker 3: information or something I guess, to get them to send

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Speaker 3: them money. Definitely don't meet with her in person, and

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Speaker 3: I hope to goodness that you didn't give her any

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Speaker 3: personal information already via email communications coming through says ask

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Speaker 3: for a sample of DNA resemblance is not enough, and

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Speaker 3: there's an update here. I need to know.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a scam. I don't think these kids

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the other side of that. Ooh, it

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Speaker 3: is reloo isreal and that see who wins. Maybe in

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Speaker 3: his youth five years ago, little Eric used to be a.

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Speaker 3: you know what that means, Lasan. Yeah, that was cruel.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, what a crazy tale.

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Speaker 4: My boyfriend just discovered that his ex is engaged and

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Speaker 3: Oh maybe it's because he's so happy that he found you.

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Speaker 4: If you're not over your exes, don't get in new relationship.

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Speaker 4: That's obvious. I'm unsure of what to do since this

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Speaker 4: If you're not over your ex, don't get into a relationship.

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Speaker 4: I love him, but he's always seemed a bit distant

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Speaker 7: first significant relationship. It's always gonna stick with you. But

440
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Speaker 7: it's like, yeah, get it?

441
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Speaker 6: What did you wrap it?

442
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Speaker 4: Should I contact her and ask her if she has

443
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 4: any insight? Yeah, he's not over. I'm starting to think

444
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 4: that she must have said something to upset him like this,

445
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 4: because he didn't seem that bothered when his ex was

446
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 4: dating other people, dating and getting engaged just a little different.

447
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Speaker 4: Relevant comments deleted. Oh right, okay.

448
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Speaker 3: I feel I feel like that's an appropriate response to

449
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Speaker 3: what I said.

450
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, don't contact her. Her job is finished. If

451
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 4: her X still has problems with the relationship, that's his

452
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 4: issue now, you, missy, do not play fix it here.

453
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 4: You can't fix the fact that your boyfriend is actually

454
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 4: still in love with another woman. You can be the

455
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 4: most perfect woman on earth, but while he still has

456
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 4: her as his dream woman, you don't have a crap show. Honestly,

457
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 4: and as hard as this may be, I'd talk to

458
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Speaker 4: him about it again, and then if there is no resolution,

459
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Speaker 4: I'd consider moving on. You deserve someone who thinks you

460
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Speaker 4: are the best woman on earth, not some distant X

461
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Speaker 4: from his high school years. Good luck, Opie, and big

462
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 4: hugs this stinkball, though this stink's balls and Opie responds,

463
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 4: thank you for your reply. I was insecure about my

464
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Speaker 4: boyfriend's relationship with his X from the start. They didn't

465
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 4: talk that often, but they catch up once every few

466
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 4: months through Skype or something. She lives on the East Coast,

467
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Speaker 4: and when Hurricane Sandy hit, he called her, texted her,

468
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 4: and messaged her on Skype, despite her having cut off

469
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Speaker 4: contact with him prior to that. I didn't even know

470
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 4: that he still had her phone number. Is this relationship hopeless?

471
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 4: I knew that he still had a bit of a

472
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Speaker 4: thing for her, but I didn't know the extent of

473
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Speaker 4: it until now. If he can't move on after all

474
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Speaker 4: this time, I don't understand why he got into a

475
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Speaker 4: relationship with me. I don't get it either.

476
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Speaker 6: He tried to fill a hole.

477
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: Men are weird.

478
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Speaker 6: Women do that too.

479
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 4: I'm talking about men right now.

480
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Speaker 3: Women are all so weird. We're all weird.

481
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Speaker 4: And who's this story talking about men?

482
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Speaker 3: Sorry? My men, there's a woman in that story.

483
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Speaker 6: Ladies, what's my week?

484
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Speaker 4: All are getting really different too, there's actually two women.

485
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Speaker 4: It's awfully defensive over here. I'm not talking about women, obviously,

486
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 4: women are doing it. I'm talking about the men in

487
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: the story. That are doing it and they're weird. You're like, well,

488
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: women do it.

489
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course they do it. You know, I mean

490
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: that you said there's no women in the story. I'm like, there's, well,

491
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: there's two. It is not what I said.

492
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Speaker 6: There is only one man.

493
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Speaker 3: I said.

494
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Speaker 4: They're not talking about a woman in the story. They're

495
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Speaker 4: I mean a man in the story, and there were

496
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Speaker 4: no women in.

497
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Speaker 3: The story.

498
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Speaker 4: Deleted. Sometimes we think we are more emotionally available than

499
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Speaker 4: we actually are. And I want you to know this.

500
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Speaker 4: It is not your fault. I find this happens with

501
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 4: people who run away from their feelings and don't process grief.

502
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 4: It all comes back and bites them in them big time.

503
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Speaker 4: We probably didn't know it at the time when he

504
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Speaker 4: got with you, that he was like this, and now

505
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 4: it's just spiraled out of control. Yeah, I'm gonna be

506
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 4: rough and I'm sorry. You sound like an exceptionally loving,

507
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 4: impatient girlfriend. Actually, to be honest, he sounds like a

508
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 4: bit of a knucklehead, putting his ex girlfriend before you

509
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 4: emotionally and no, I think in the long term you'll

510
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: find it to be an uphill battle with him. I

511
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 4: think a massive turnaround is highly unlikely. If he is

512
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 4: this bad three years into your relationship. Three years is

513
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 4: a lot to give up on, I know, but think

514
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 4: about it. Wouldn't you rather be with someone who thinks

515
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 4: you were the most amazing woman in the world? And

516
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 4: op says, sorry, no, I'll save that for later.

517
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Speaker 3: When in the middle of the thought.

518
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Speaker 4: No, it's vin Hope, he just responds, what's your thought?

519
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: Let's let him respond.

520
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: I'll get it, Opie says, I love him From the

521
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: moment I saw him. I knew that I wanted to

522
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 4: be with him. He's incredibly smart and charming. But you're right,

523
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Speaker 4: I've always felt insignificant in comparison to his ex, and

524
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Speaker 4: I don't think that I realized quite how much. If

525
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 4: I think about it, though, there were clues that I

526
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 4: didn't pick up on when we first started dating. I

527
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: told him at some point that he didn't seem to

528
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Speaker 4: want to open up to me, and he told me

529
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Speaker 4: that it was because his ex had taught him not

530
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Speaker 4: to become too vulnerable. I thought this would pass as

531
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Speaker 4: we got more serious about each other, and he did

532
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 4: open up a bit more, but whenever he caught up

533
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 4: with his ex, he'd be dissonant with me again. For

534
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 4: a while.

535
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Speaker 3: That's a terrible sign. That's a pretty big warning warning siren,

536
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: like a like a like a tornado just going off.

537
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: So this is a problem that I mean, we're talking

538
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: about the man, and this man has not and perhaps

539
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 3: did not even know he needed to move on from

540
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Speaker 3: this X.

541
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Speaker 4: No, of course he didn't, because he jumped. He probably

542
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 4: jumped into another relationship.

543
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Speaker 3: Well no, no, no, because because he's he's he's doing skype

544
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 3: catchups like every couple months, right, So it's like there's

545
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: no cutoff, no point. And one day he wakes up

546
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: and he sees some post that this ex girlfriend has

547
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 3: now a ring on her finger, and then everything comes

548
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 3: crumbling in around him in that one moment, and now

549
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: he's like, oh my god, I've missed out on the

550
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: love of my blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

551
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And this is just if you would

552
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 3: have properly processed the breakup at the beginning, yeah, this

553
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 3: would not have happened exactly. And that is a problem

554
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: with the man in the story, but it's also a

555
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: problem that can happen to every human being. Like if

556
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: we don't properly and that's well, it's it's fine. I'm

557
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: not and I'm not trying to defend this guy. Yeah,

558
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's watch.

559
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 4: Out, could happen to you?

560
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: It secretly like plant a little sleeper cell bomb in

561
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 3: your head that will go off one day you're like, why,

562
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: why is it doing it? And it's like, oh, because

563
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Speaker 3: I put it there. I didn't even know it.

564
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Speaker 4: Mysa says Opie is still so young. She has so

565
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 4: much more to live for than dealing with an emotionally

566
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 4: unavailable man who is not over his ex.

567
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, just leave? Do you just leave the guy?

568
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 4: Leave him mind, move forward, even him behind.

569
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: Times are our idealized versions of people that like we

570
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: see in our head or like the relationship that we

571
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: see yeah in three years from now is what makes

572
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: us stay. It wasn't you know.

573
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 4: You're gonna look back on it and you're gonna be like, wow,

574
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: definitely wasn't as good as I was thinking it was.

575
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you will.

576
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 4: People who aren't over their ex is aren't ready to

577
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: be in a good relationship, Like it's always all something's

578
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: always going to be off about it if they are

579
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 4: not over the person that was before you.

580
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, the most icky part is the X might be

581
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 6: from Jersey.

582
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 3: What just a new every girl thisss guy's ever dated

583
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: from New Jersey.

584
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: I don't know why is X cut off contact with him?

585
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 4: But after she did, he did seem more invested in

586
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: our relationship, and so I had hope for us. He

587
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 4: was the one that asked if I wanted to move

588
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 4: in with him. But now this happened and he barely

589
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 4: wants to talk to me. I mean she probably cut

590
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 4: off contact because she was in this relationship and she realized, oh,

591
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 4: he is not over me.

592
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, like once you realize as someone getting married that,

593
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 3: like you have a friend who's into you and is

594
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: not not into you, Like, I don't know, you got

595
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 3: to make a business decision at that point. Absolutely, this

596
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: is what's best for my current relationship.

597
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 4: But there is an update. Do you have any thoughts

598
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: before we get into it?

599
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: Pretty much? I unleashed my thoughts upon pot said the

600
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: comment section. Yeah, this is uh. You gotta be gotta

601
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: be vigilant of our own little mental land minds we

602
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 3: leave for ourselves.

603
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

604
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's they're both young when he's they're in

605
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 3: their twenties, like truly, Oh yeah, you're a confusing time.

606
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 3: Y'all need to talk about this, like just Frank, she said.

607
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: She said that like he was always so closed off,

608
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 4: like she tried to get him to open up about

609
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 4: things and he just didn't want to. And that was

610
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: already about sign. But there is an update.

611
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if he can't talk, that's an answer within itself.

612
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: So there you go.

613
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Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sam. We're go get back to the stories.

614
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

615
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Speaker 4: It's over. I think I called my dad after and

616
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: asked him to help me move back home. These last

617
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 4: two days have been really emotional. My boyfriend was gone

618
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: all day yesterday. He was gone when I woke up.

619
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: That's fine. I assumed he went to work early, but

620
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 4: he still wasn't home when I went to bed. I

621
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 4: texted him once I woke up to say good morning,

622
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: and twice at night, and one asking if he was

623
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 4: coming home for dinner and another asking if he was

624
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 4: all right. I also tried calling a cell, but he

625
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: didn't pick up. I thought that I deserved some answers,

626
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: so I decided to snoop, something I've done once before

627
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 4: when I was feeling insecure about his relationship with his

628
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: ex well. On his laptop hidden in a bunch of

629
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 4: subfolders was an MS document with his ex's name. Okay,

630
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: I read it, and I'm assuming that he just saved

631
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: the last conversation that he had with her right before

632
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 4: she cut contact with him. I see, I see you.

633
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: I now understand why she cut contact. It started out normally,

634
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 4: but then he asked her how her relationship with her

635
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Speaker 4: now fiance boyfriend was going. She said that I was

636
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: good and that she was happy, and then it got

637
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 4: weird because he said something like, really, are you sure.

638
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: And then she said, oh my god, now that you

639
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: mention it, I'm in love with you, with you for you.

640
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 4: She said yes and said that was a weird question,

641
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 4: and he said, I don't know. I don't believe that

642
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: you're that happy. I don't remember everything exactly because my

643
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 4: head was spinning, but he basically told her that her

644
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: fiance then boyfriend would never treat her as well as

645
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 4: he did, and that they've known each other X number

646
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 4: of years and managed to say friends after their breakup,

647
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: that they've helped each other grow as people, and that

648
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: she should really give them another chance.

649
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: Oof oof, big old oof. Oof.

650
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Speaker 4: He said that he's waited for all these years and

651
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: that he loves her and always believe they wind up together.

652
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: This was all while he was with me.

653
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Speaker 3: Ooh, big old oof. All right, maybe we don't all

654
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: do this. This is the you saved this in a

655
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Speaker 3: word document this exchange.

656
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 4: She called him an ale and told them that he

657
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Speaker 4: had a lot of balls to say all that to

658
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: her when she told them a long time ago they're

659
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 4: only ever going to be friends and that he's an

660
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 4: ever and that he's an even bigger ale for doing

661
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: this while they were both in relationships. She told them

662
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: to go to hack and to break up with me

663
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: for my sake, because I deserve better. That's not even

664
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 4: the worst part.

665
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh oh boy.

666
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: My boyfriend woke me up this morning by calling mysel

667
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: and telling me to come to the kitchen. He said

668
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: that he made breakfast. So I go to the kitchen

669
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 4: getting ready for a fight. He and I never fight,

670
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: but I am so gosh dang hurt. And he made

671
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 4: what honestly look like an amazing breakfast with a ring

672
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 4: box in the middle of the table.

673
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't eat that, You're like, we want to breakfast?

674
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: This isn't a candy ring. What are we doing here? WHOA, Yeah,

675
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: so that's not gonna work. Why do we do it?

676
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: He told me to open it?

677
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: I did.

678
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: He said something like these last three years with me

679
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 4: has been an adventure, and he hopes to keep making

680
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: new adventures with me. I guess around this time, I

681
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: snap out of whatever hayes I've been in, and I exploded.

682
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 4: I demand to know where he was all day yesterday,

683
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 4: why he wouldn't contact me, why he's been crying over

684
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 4: his ex for the last three months? Everything. He got

685
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 4: mad at me for being mad. He told me that

686
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 4: I should be happy because he was proposing, and wasn't

687
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 4: that what I wanted? I asked him why when it's

688
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 4: so obvious that he'd rather be with his ex. He

689
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: told me that she's obviously moved on, so it's time

690
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: for him to move on too. Why it's been time.

691
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: It's been three years of time. You should have moved

692
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 4: on ages ago. I have never been so angry in

693
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: my life.

694
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

695
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: I've been so incredibly patient with this man and done

696
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: my best to be understanding of a situation. I've literally

697
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: given him all that I had. But I'm not gonna

698
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 4: get married to him just to be his consolation prize. Yeah,

699
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 4: the only good consolation prize is that one song.

700
00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah nights. What song is it called cons prize?

701
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 4: Might be it's all consolation price, that.

702
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: One song called about consolation.

703
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah wait, what's it called conculations?

704
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? This is unhinged behavior to be like, well, I mean,

705
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: I guess she's just gone because she's like rejected me,

706
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: So I guess what, I'm going to marry you? Why

707
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: are you mad?

708
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 4: Like she's marrying someone else, so I might as well

709
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 4: marry you, but I can't have her.

710
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: You hit him with the if she broke up with

711
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: the fiance right now and asked you to marry her,

712
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: would you do it? And when he goes yeah, that's

713
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: when you you say, okay go or when he hesitates

714
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: for literally two seconds, you cannot hesitate that question. If

715
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: you hesitate at all, out be gone. He wants to

716
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: have a wedding before, Yeah, he wants to.

717
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: He has to one upper you.

718
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 6: Want, that's what he wants.

719
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, with a pathetic little bowl, that's.

720
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 6: What he wants to say.

721
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 7: It's that's that same mindset of like, oh someone, let's

722
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 7: have a wedding. I'm gonna do that right before them.

723
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 4: It's so ironic because had he proposed four plus months earlier,

724
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 4: I would have been ecstatic. Now it's just broke our relationship.

725
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I called my dad crying and he's on

726
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: his way down. We move back in with him and

727
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: my mom. That's it. I'm a wreck. But I think

728
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: it's just because everything wrong and twisted in this relationship

729
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 4: is hitting me and it took so long for me

730
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 4: to understand, and my ex is just sitting on the

731
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 4: couch with.

732
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: His laptop, dang, nonchalant.

733
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much for helping me see how

734
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 4: unfair this whole relationship was. I read all of the

735
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: comments and there are some relevant comments. But guys, we're

736
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: only halfway through the story.

737
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 3: Things are gonna get better for Op. I'm hoping they've got.

738
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 6: To get we're halfway.

739
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 7: We're only halfway through, and Op's already leaving this guy.

740
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: It's time for upswing.

741
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 4: He made a mistake. People have made bigger mistakes before.

742
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 6: You gotta eat the relevance.

743
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 4: Down voted deleted comment. Wow, he made a mistake. People

744
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: have made bigger mistakes before and overcome it. He was

745
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: putting you number one by.

746
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: Proposing to you. You said you had three years.

747
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 4: Of happy relationship together before this, Although he had a

748
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 4: temporary lapse in judgment.

749
00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: To watch you, it wasn't ten.

750
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: You're looking for an incredibly perfect fairy tale where everything

751
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: plays out exactly like you wanted it. After you break up,

752
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: you'll start to realize all the things he did to

753
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 4: say and show he loved you. Things that should trump

754
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 4: this revelation.

755
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: Is this him sounds like things are.

756
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: Your way or the highway. Hopefully, if another man loves you,

757
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 4: he'll be willing to put up with that.

758
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 3: So that's one hundred percent Op's X right there. That's

759
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: the only person who could have wrote that. God damn sheesh.

760
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 4: Opie responds, I thought that my relationship was a happy one, yes,

761
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: But I didn't know that my ex was declaring his

762
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 4: love for his ex girlfriend trying to win her back

763
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: while he was still with me. Nor did I know

764
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: that once she blocked him on Facebook, he was logging

765
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 4: into my account to keep tabs on her. If you

766
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 4: honestly believe that someone that's been crying for three months

767
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 4: over an nex's engagement really wanted to be with me, you're.

768
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: In the minority three months.

769
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 4: And also has been messaging her over the years. You know,

770
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: they've kept in calm so when the astro be with

771
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 4: him and he like, you know, lied and was like, yeah,

772
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 4: we'll just be friends, and then the whole time he's like,

773
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 4: but maybe one day, but maybe she'll she'll choose me, And.

774
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: That makes him an a hole.

775
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: And an emotional cheater. And judging by the fact that

776
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: he had bought the ring the day before he proposed,

777
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: he really hadn't planned anything at all. I'm astounded by

778
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: your post.

779
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 3: Honestly, me too, op, me too astounded.

780
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 4: There is an update three weeks later, but uh, wow, wow, wow.

781
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 3: Wow wow. Don't be this man. Be better, and don't

782
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 3: be that commenter.

783
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 4: Don't be that commenter either, who maybe is also that man?

784
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 3: Certain is that man?

785
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: Maybe one and the same.

786
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm trying to process what has to happen to a

787
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: person to move on to to make a comment like

788
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 3: that is it has to be this, I.

789
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: Mean, you have to be not that person also has

790
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: to be not over their ex.

791
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: In a different scenario, I'm like, maybe this is actually

792
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: that's not even wrong. If there aren't any messages, if

793
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: they're not staying in contact if it is just like

794
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 3: a weird like, dude, I don't know, I saw this

795
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: in freak me out. I don't know what's going on.

796
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 3: Let's talk it out. We can figure this out. That's

797
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 3: for sure doable the whole like saving your final message

798
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: in a Microsoft word document and it's not good and

799
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: you're that's like a toxic fixation. Yeah.

800
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 4: I feel like there is sometimes this like thought pattern

801
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 4: that when you're when you get out of a relationship

802
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 4: or just like any sort of situation, you know, romantic situation,

803
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: that you won't be able to get over it until

804
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: you get with someone new. And that's not true if

805
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: you take the time, no matter how hard it feels,

806
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 4: and no matter how much it feels like you won't

807
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 4: ever get over it, give it time and wait until

808
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: you do feel like you're over it before getting into

809
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: another relationship. Because I've been through it and I was like, wow,

810
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: I'm never gonna be over this until I give us

811
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: someone else. No, it is not true. One day you're like, oh, yeah,

812
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 4: I actually don't care about that anymore. So dude, get

813
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 4: over your relationship. That's my friendly advice to that. The

814
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: man in this story.

815
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, ope, he's X. And if you really can't after

816
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: years and years and years, you gotta get help.

817
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: You gotta go to therapy because you're obsessed. You are

818
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 4: dealing with obsession.

819
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just bad for you. It's bad for

820
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: you and bad for everyone around you in your life.

821
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 3: It's like a partner. It's just all bad.

822
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 4: And kim Von commases. I mean, when I saw that

823
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: my ex from ten years ago got married, it definitely

824
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: made me feel weird, but I'm also not a relationship.

825
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: Weird is different than sobbing for three months.

826
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 6: I don't twice twice a week.

827
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 4: I think most people would feel some sort of way

828
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: about seeing their ex getting married. I think most people

829
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 4: would feel at least a couple emotions. Sobbing for three

830
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 4: months should not be one of them.

831
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 3: This is true.

832
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: I don't think that feeling weird about your ex getting

833
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 4: married is not being or is not not being over them.

834
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 4: I think you can still be over them and feel weird. Yeah, no,

835
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 4: it's yeah, getting over someone like an ex doesn't mean

836
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 4: that you have literally no thoughts or feelings about them.

837
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: It just means that, like you're not I don't know

838
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 4: it means.

839
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 3: That you're not sending messages like are you really happy

840
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 3: with the guy right now?

841
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 4: I'm still emotionally invested in everything they do. But there

842
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: is an update. My ax went more or less crazy

843
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 4: after I moved back home. I locked him from essentially everything,

844
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: changed all my passwords, and deactivated my Facebook, so he

845
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: had no way of reaching me aside from literally driving

846
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 4: to my parents' house to see me. Apparently, he started

847
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 4: sending messages to my friends, some of them are mutual friends,

848
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 4: asking to use their Skype accounts to talk to me.

849
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: He told them that I stole some things from him

850
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: when I moved out, and he wanted them back. I

851
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: got a few phone calls from my friends asking me

852
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: about this. They told me that they knew that I

853
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 4: didn't steal anything from him, because that's not like me

854
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: at all, but they wanted to know why he was

855
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 4: so desperate to contact me. I wasn't ready to tell

856
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 4: the whole story, Honestly, I don't think anyone would believe me,

857
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: so I told them that I didn't know what was

858
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 4: going on, but asked them not to give their Skype

859
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: accounts by any means. A few days after that, the

860
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: phone calls started, all from a few different numbers that

861
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: I didn't recognize. I didn't pick I didn't pick any

862
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: of them up, but one day I'd have about twenty

863
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: miss call from one number, then another twenty plus from

864
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 4: a different number. I had to set my phone to

865
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: only allow calls from specific numbers, otherwise it would go

866
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: straight to voicemail. After the fifth day of the phone calls,

867
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 4: I broke down and told my mom everything that happened.

868
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 4: She didn't say much, she mostly let me talk. Afterwards,

869
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 4: she told me that I made the right decision, but

870
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 4: there's absolutely no reason why I should be going through

871
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: this alone. She said that she didn't want to push

872
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: me to tell her what happened until I was ready,

873
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: but that the best thing that I could be doing

874
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 4: right now is spending time with people that love and

875
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 4: support me. So after going with me to get my

876
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 4: phone number changed, she encouraged me to start calling my

877
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 4: friends and telling them what happened, and to just hang

878
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: out with them more. In general, I had it stuck

879
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 4: in my head everyone would side with my ex and

880
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: tell me that I made a terrible mistake, that his

881
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: intentions were good, and I blew things out of proportion

882
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 4: by insinuating that he only proposed because his ex girlfriend

883
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 4: got engaged.

884
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: But that's exactly why he did.

885
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: He didn't have the ring until a day before he proposed.

886
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: He didn't move until he got shut down by the

887
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: X complete, completely and totally, with no chance of recovery.

888
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 4: Apparently, my ex had been telling everyone that we broke

889
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: up because I had major jealousy issues over his ex.

890
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 4: But once they heard my side of the story, I

891
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 4: was actually shocked by how many of them said that

892
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 4: it made sense. Yeah, because it's pretty easy to tell

893
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 4: who's the crazy one. They've all told me that I've

894
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 4: done the right thing and that they backed me up

895
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: no matter what they're.

896
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, we did all find that shrine in the

897
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: back of his closet.

898
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 4: Weird, But you know, he said that you were obsessed

899
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 4: with him, so yeah, I don't know. You know what's funny,

900
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: not funny, scary? Maybe I think, oh, he's replacing the

901
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: previous ex.

902
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 6: I was gonna say.

903
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, you know, like I think this is the

904
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 4: this is the new person.

905
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 6: That He's not gonna give it a couple of weeks,

906
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 6: maybe a month. He's gonna start making that letter to

907
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 6: you and.

908
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: Like they've all told me, and I'm just going, oh,

909
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: now you've You've been replaced. Now the shrine will be

910
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 3: of you.

911
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: I just felt this huge sense of relief, and I've

912
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 4: been making an effort to go out more. I will

913
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 4: be honest, though there are times where I wonder if

914
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 4: I was wrong. Sometimes I think that maybe my ex

915
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: had been grieving over his old relationship and proposing to

916
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: me was his way of starting over. You were not

917
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 4: the starting over point.

918
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: Though.

919
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 4: Proposing should not be starting over from the old relationship.

920
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: It should be like you progressed within this relationship to

921
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 4: a point where you, guys feel really strong.

922
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 7: It's like he proposed, like, oh wow, I'm over here, amazing.

923
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 3: Oh that's all I need to do.

924
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 4: He's like, babe, would you make me the happiest man

925
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: who is Now? I can happily say over his ex.

926
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: Also marry me, I guess because she won't won't marry me?

927
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: Will you marry me because she won't?

928
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: No, Oh well, I guess I'll find a new U

929
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: and then you can be my new ex.

930
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: Maybe one day you'll marry me.

931
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: Sometimes I think that I turned down the only marriage

932
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: proposal that I'll ever get girl, You're like, how old

933
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: is she?

934
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: Twenty one?

935
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 4: Girl, you're twenty two if that's the only marriage proposal

936
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 4: that you'll ever get, like everyone else is not getting married.

937
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: Because yeah, no one's getting married.

938
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: And sometimes I think that maybe I should have accepted

939
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 4: because I loved him, and you don't often find people

940
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: that you truly love. That's because right now you aren't

941
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 4: over him. Takes time, takes time, but sometimes you get there.

942
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 4: Eventually you get there. But then on the days that

943
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: I'm feeling wiser, I remind myself how bizarre are last

944
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: few weeks together were, How I always knew deep down

945
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: that I was second best for him, and how he's

946
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: been behaving since we broke up. I've never seen him

947
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: so unstable. He was always so calm and logical, so

948
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 4: this is completely new to me. I knew deep down

949
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: that I did the right thing, but sometimes what you

950
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 4: know in your head and feeling your heart, you're so

951
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 4: completely different. So that's basically it. I'm just going through

952
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: the motions and I'm gonna make an appointment with the therapist.

953
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: Yes who Yes, I.

954
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 4: Wish that I had something more profound update with you guys,

955
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 4: but I don't My best advice for anyone going through

956
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 4: something similar is what my mom told me. Surround yourself

957
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 4: with people that love and support you. And there is

958
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 4: a I think somewhat final update, maybe nearly two months.

959
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: After your mom had some banger advice right there. All right,

960
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 3: and we've gone two months into the future. Op, he's

961
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: got a new life. Yeah, things you're clicking into place,

962
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: and she's gonna meet.

963
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 4: The Okay, well maybe not the love of her life.

964
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 4: You more time, the love of your life, but then

965
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: she's not gonna get with him, and they're.

966
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: The queen of France. What okay? Right?

967
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 4: First, my ex mailed me the engagement ring that he

968
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: brought that he bought shortly after my last update. I

969
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 4: didn't know what to do with it. I wasn't sure

970
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: if the ring was what he had been claiming that

971
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 4: I stole. Oh, so he was trying to mail you proof.

972
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 4: I also felt weird about mailing it back because what

973
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: if he claimed that he never got it. So my

974
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: dad volunteered to personally deliver the ring back to him,

975
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 4: and you should like record it, do some blogging. Yeah,

976
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 4: I don't know if anything was said when my dad

977
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 4: brought it back and I never asked. Second, I heard

978
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: from some friends that two weeks ago my ex bought

979
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 4: a ticket and Fluton, NYC to try and talk to

980
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: his Somehow he found out the name of the company

981
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 4: that she worked for, looked up ats location, and waited

982
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 4: in front of the building all day.

983
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,439
Speaker 3: That's what so, brother, I hope it was her day off.

984
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 4: I have no idea what happened, but apparently there aren't

985
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: any signs if you're coming back, so I'm assuming that

986
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 4: i'd go very well. I can't believe that he did that,

987
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: and I can't believe that I dated someone that was

988
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 4: that crazy for three years. As well as it helps

989
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: every time that I hear about something like this because

990
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 4: it reinforces the fact that I did the right thing.

991
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 4: Sometimes get you know, you just need to get the egg,

992
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: and then you're like, oh, I'm actually yeah.

993
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 6: I mean there's a lot of I.

994
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 4: Met with two therapists. I wasn't a huge fan of

995
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: the first one. Every time I said something, he'd ask

996
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: and how do you feel about that? No feedback or

997
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: suggestions whatsoever. At the end, he suggested that I was

998
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: depressed and might want to consider a few different medications.

999
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: I don't intend on seeing that guy again.

1000
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, hey, maybe.

1001
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 4: There's no way that you can say that someone's depressed

1002
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 4: after one meeting.

1003
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 3: Was it just one?

1004
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the first meeting with that guy. I

1005
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: don't think that's that's crazy to me, like to not

1006
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: only say that a person's depressed, but also to like

1007
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: medic you know, you like prescribe medication. I feel like

1008
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 4: you got app more than one.

1009
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 3: It was it really only one? Yes? He was only one? Yeah?

1010
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 4: No, she was saying that she met this guy and

1011
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 4: she was like, I'm not going.

1012
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: Back to him. Yeah, that sounds swack. Yeah. Not all

1013
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: therapists are created equal.

1014
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 4: I met the second one last week, though, and I

1015
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 4: liked her a lot. She told me that she doesn't

1016
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 4: think that I need to see her regularly, but to

1017
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 4: feel free to make appointments whenever I'm feeling especially down

1018
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 4: or stressed. So I think I'll do that. A few

1019
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: people asked why I wanted to see a therapist on

1020
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: my last post, because I seemed to be doing the

1021
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: right things. Well, the problem was that even though I

1022
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 4: knew I was doing the right thing, I didn't necessarily

1023
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 4: feel that they were right. I mean, therapy is always good,

1024
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 4: I still doubted myself and I felt like a different

1025
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 4: person than I used to be prior to this mess.

1026
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 4: I was always very optimistic and happy in general. I

1027
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 4: always try to make the best of things, but at

1028
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: the time of my last post, I felt down, and

1029
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 4: even though I was making an effort to see friends,

1030
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: I wasn't really enjoying it anyway. This brings me to

1031
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: where I am now. I started a paid internship with

1032
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 4: the chance of getting a hired full time almost a

1033
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: month ago, and I love it. I love the people,

1034
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 4: the work itself, and the fact that I'm getting beat

1035
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 4: back into her team. I'm a little embarrassed to say

1036
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 4: that I'm attracted to the guy that hired me. Is

1037
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 4: about my age.

1038
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say that I'm gonna put I'm gonna put

1039
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 7: a fork an no one, you don't do that in

1040
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 7: the workplace.

1041
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 6: That's true. Sorry, but that's good.

1042
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 3: You're moving on. I've never heard of a single example

1043
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: of workplace romance going like yeah, mic drop or like

1044
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: the scratch, like hold on have you well? No, never

1045
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 3: mind a spoiler. I don't want to spoil anything.

1046
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 4: But spoiler alert. You guys can listen to full episodes

1047
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 4: of stories just like this. It's got a Spotify, Apple podcasts,

1048
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: or iHeartRadio and search up. Okay, story time, But there

1049
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: is a little bit left to this story.

1050
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: Find a laugh poo. That's about it.

1051
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's about it. Mine. I feel like I've gotten

1052
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 4: all my thoughts in this man.

1053
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 3: He went to New York, New York City. I deeply

1054
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 3: hope that she was off work that day and he

1055
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: stood out all day for nothing, because that you should

1056
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: be go to jail, Go to jail for that, Straight

1057
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: to jail, Go straight to jail.

1058
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: There's nothing going on, and I definitely am not ready

1059
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 4: or willing to be in a relationship good. It's simply

1060
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 4: the fact that he's the nicest, best mannered person that

1061
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: I've ever met. And sometimes it's just nice to have

1062
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 4: a cute person there to look at the same time,

1063
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 4: and sometimes you just need some mine.

1064
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: Where they are right there, there, they are right there.

1065
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 4: He's always positive, polite, and smiling, so it's impossible not

1066
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 4: to be in a good mood around him.

1067
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 6: She got butterflies.

1068
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 4: So it's not that I think my next relationship to

1069
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 4: be with him, or that I have feelings for him.

1070
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 4: It's just that I realized that the type of person

1071
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 4: that I should be looking for is someone that makes

1072
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 4: me feel good just by being around them. Dude, you

1073
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 4: know what, girl, I'm gonna let you kid yourself. But

1074
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 4: I've done this before where I this was in college

1075
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, this person is

1076
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 4: so nice, Like, doesn't everyone like whenever you talk to them,

1077
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 4: don't you all just like fall in love with him

1078
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 4: a little bit? And everyone was like no, And I

1079
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: was like, no, like, you know, when you talk to

1080
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: you just fall love with a little bit. And they're like,

1081
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 4: I think that's just you, and it was it was

1082
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: just me gotta love that we're not falling in love

1083
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 4: with the same guy every time his mouth moves. But

1084
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 4: I was like genuinely convinced that I didn't have a

1085
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: crush on him. That I was like, he's just so

1086
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 4: nice that everyone loves him.

1087
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: Guys all know the butterflies you get in your stomach

1088
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: when he talks to you.

1089
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just think about him all the time.

1090
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, but I don't have a crush on him.

1091
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 4: And they were like, I think you got a crush

1092
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Speaker 4: I don't give much thought to my ex anymore. It's

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Speaker 4: amazing how much life changes over the course of a

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Speaker 4: few months. But I think that everything is turning around

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Speaker 4: for the best. And that is the end of that story.

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Speaker 3: For the best. Charles.

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Speaker 4: I got a membership today specifically to watch this live,

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Speaker 3: To a stream too many kids. Thank you for being

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Speaker 3: You're gonna start putting the lines like the red lines together.

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Speaker 3: It's all made up a cat in this economy.

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Speaker 4: give us one.

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