WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Tiffany Cross

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, ladies, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we get too far going on discussing, uh you

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<v Speaker 3>know versus episodes that have happened in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, listen, is welcome our guest today.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say that our guest today before I even do

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<v Speaker 3>our guests, Let's say hello to our actual show members,

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<v Speaker 3>Team Supreme.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at me, thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, Team supremes with us right now. This is

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<v Speaker 3>Quest Love, Quest Love Supreme host. In case you haven't

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<v Speaker 3>noticed by now, laya, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you today?

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<v Speaker 4>I am well, sir, thank you very well, Thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, no for how are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Do?

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<v Speaker 6>You know people don't really want to know to answer

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<v Speaker 6>to that question. They want the quicken the past and

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<v Speaker 6>be out so they can move to the next.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know what, you know what I what I

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<v Speaker 3>think the common thing is for post twenty twenty life.

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<v Speaker 3>People are actually being honest now, you know, before it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing? Nothing much?

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<v Speaker 3>Not much, just basically covered everything. People are now actually

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<v Speaker 3>being honest about it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm excited you're doing I'm exhausted.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm exhausted as a forty something year old woman, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>exhausted as a black person, I'm exhausted some days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>so I'm exhausted, but I'm happy to be here with

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<v Speaker 6>you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, shall we go into it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can say hi to everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well I'll get back to your exhaustion. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to acknowledge your exhaustion.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, thank you, thank you as a male, and

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<v Speaker 4>thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to acknowledge your exhausted. How are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to Sugar Steve? How's life?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm doing great, I feel good. I love this podcast.

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<v Speaker 7>I love Team Supreme, I love our guests today. And

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<v Speaker 7>the Sugar Network turned three years old this past weekend, So.

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<v Speaker 2>That is all happy. Three years in a row. La,

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<v Speaker 2>that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 8>Wait three, I gotta ask Sular the Sugar the Sugar

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<v Speaker 8>Network lasted longer than queeb.

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<v Speaker 1>It anyway, Unpaid Bill House, Life on the Street.

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<v Speaker 9>Uh, you know, fantastic. I've been looking forward to this

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<v Speaker 9>all day. I wrote a song about the letters today.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a good day. Wait, it just hit me

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<v Speaker 2>on Sesame Street.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to kind of recycle old ideas in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of the new ideas, Like so every day you have

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<v Speaker 3>a new challenge on your hand, like to to make

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<v Speaker 3>a song about the letter.

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<v Speaker 2>G or a mirror. That's where the genius lies. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, what do I look like? You said?

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's why they pay you the big get it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why they pay me barely enough to sustain my living.

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<v Speaker 3>I see, I see, fine, Ticolo, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cool, man cool, I'm tired, but I'm good though

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<v Speaker 2>he's exhausted to one one tired, one exhausted.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm still happy to be here

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<v Speaker 8>in the midst of all the tiredness.

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<v Speaker 1>But one.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Now I can say that our guest today, if

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<v Speaker 3>she's still there with us after that long intro, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you're there.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest today is basically dedicated her life to I.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess I could say, creating real change and especially how

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<v Speaker 3>black people are viewed in the press and in history,

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<v Speaker 3>not only just the present in history. She's been a

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<v Speaker 3>political analyst on various news outlets, but you know, she's

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<v Speaker 3>also written books about the effects of voter suppression, jerry mandering,

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<v Speaker 3>and and how political activism has affected or lack of

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<v Speaker 3>political activism has affected our people. Make sure you pick

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<v Speaker 3>it up, Say it Louder is the name of the book.

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<v Speaker 3>I myself can attest that she is an amazing host

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<v Speaker 3>of her new Saturday MSNBC show, The Cross Connection, which

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<v Speaker 3>I faithfully I've not dedicated myself to watch anything on

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<v Speaker 3>Saturday morning, this faithfully black since Soul Training.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a hell of a statement coming from Questland.

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<v Speaker 5>It is. I'm humble by that I'm up there with

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<v Speaker 5>Don Cornelius. Touches my heart, bless you in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>There's Don Cornelius and now welcome to the show, Tiffany

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<v Speaker 3>Cross to quest of Supreme.

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<v Speaker 2>My gosh, I'm so happy.

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<v Speaker 5>Is anyone? Is anyone going to ask me how I'm doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Now we can get what we wanted to Just are

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<v Speaker 2>you exhausted? How are you today?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, first of all, seriously, I'm very happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 5>I would just be doing this on my own on

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<v Speaker 5>the couch by myself, So I am happy to share

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<v Speaker 5>the screen with all you guys. Next week, y'all are

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<v Speaker 5>going to be like, why is Tiffany on the zoom Lenk.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't a weekly invite, it was just the one week.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how we got doing. Now, if you just around

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<v Speaker 2>you get the gig. That's how it works.

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<v Speaker 5>Just show up, I volunteer. But I'm also feeling hopeful.

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<v Speaker 5>I definitely relate to you, a forty seven year old

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<v Speaker 5>black woman feeling outraged and raged all the things. So definitely.

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<v Speaker 5>But I do have to say the vaccine has me

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<v Speaker 5>feeling a little hopeful.

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<v Speaker 2>That have you. God, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't, but I am open to getting the vaccine.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking forward to getting it.

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<v Speaker 6>Same here, same here, all right, No, I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 6>this opportunity while you're giving them.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to know how y'all feel about, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all take it back or something.

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<v Speaker 4>No yet, But talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>Talking about the vaccine, I just had a deep conversation

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<v Speaker 6>in group text with some DC friends who were fortunate

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<v Speaker 6>enough to get it, and I was curious, if y'all

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<v Speaker 6>are able to get it before you're eligible, will you

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<v Speaker 6>let the world know or will.

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<v Speaker 4>You just hang back?

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<v Speaker 8>Leads into my question, I'll go, oh, I was in

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<v Speaker 8>I probably wouldn't let the world know. I mean, so

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<v Speaker 8>the thing this is going around here, So in North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 8>we just got the Johnson and Johnson and the one

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<v Speaker 8>shot joint.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, supposedly supposed to. We got like eighty thousand of them.

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<v Speaker 8>And so the thing the word I'm hearing is that

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<v Speaker 8>and I heard this also from another one my homies

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<v Speaker 8>just in California. They have the restrictions and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the age settings and all that stuff, But the healthcare professionals,

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<v Speaker 8>the word I'm hearing is that they being relax on

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<v Speaker 8>it because they just like, look, anybody that wants the shot,

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<v Speaker 8>We're gonna get y'all a fucking shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we don't care, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 8>So in terms of skipping in line, I don't think

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<v Speaker 8>that's as much of an issue. I mean, I'm still

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<v Speaker 8>gonna like, wait my turn because I'm fortunate enough baby

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<v Speaker 8>from work from home, and not think people that work,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, essential workers and stuff should get that way before.

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<v Speaker 2>You know someone like right, that's fortunate enough.

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<v Speaker 8>But the word I'm hearing is that the auto medical

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<v Speaker 8>people they just like, look, man, anybody want this shit,

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<v Speaker 8>come get.

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<v Speaker 2>It, because we this shit too.

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<v Speaker 5>That's good. Actually, what about the rest?

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<v Speaker 6>What about you, Tiffany, if you if somebody knocks on

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<v Speaker 6>your daughter tomorrow says you want when you share it

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<v Speaker 6>with the world or feel Yeah, I think I will.

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<v Speaker 5>Just because I do believe in public honesty, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like I wouldn't want to fake like I'm like the

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<v Speaker 5>Trumps went and got that, Like I want to tell people,

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<v Speaker 5>yeah I got it, and I think it's okay if

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<v Speaker 5>it highlights you know, whatever slither or privilege I have.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I got a shot.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel bad. I don't want to tell no mony

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<v Speaker 4>talk about.

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<v Speaker 5>It though, talk about it because the vaccine, and you're

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<v Speaker 5>contributing to her immunity. Like the more people get it,

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<v Speaker 5>the virus has no place to go. So even Sufi

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<v Speaker 5>is like, look suck all that paperwork, get needles and arms,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, like get people vaccinated.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm with it.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I want to I want to do this

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<v Speaker 5>in person with you guys, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I want to go, like, where were you drinking afterwards?

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<v Speaker 2>You're officially joining us, Tiffany, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Serious tribute.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually believe you will take us on that offer

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<v Speaker 3>because you even after your show, you do these gargantuan

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<v Speaker 3>length post show conversations and I watch them all I'm like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>this shit's like seventy minutes. You talk to your drivers,

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff. I love that well, I was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>ask you guys, Okay, so right now in Philadelphia, I

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<v Speaker 3>was asked to participate in kind of like a PSA

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<v Speaker 3>thing because everyone's getting the memo that, of course black

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<v Speaker 3>people are just slightly a bit slow to be first

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<v Speaker 3>in line for good reason, right, for good reason. And

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<v Speaker 3>again like the preference is that I feel like, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>the medical industry of what was between three hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>let's face it, fifty years ago, it's slightly different than

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<v Speaker 3>what we're dealing with right now. And the thing was

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<v Speaker 3>is that I rejected, well, I rejected one because the

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<v Speaker 3>script really didn't address the skepticism. It's more like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>make sure you're vaccinating da da da da da. And

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<v Speaker 3>I try to explain to them. I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a history behind why we're not too eager to

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<v Speaker 3>do this first and the mistrust, you know, for you

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<v Speaker 3>to be effective and really want to reach black people,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to have to address.

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<v Speaker 2>I address that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have to address why we're so slow to

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<v Speaker 3>not be the first in line to do this. And

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of threw them for a loop, like people

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<v Speaker 3>are slowly learning right now. But it's it's like, what

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<v Speaker 3>is that conversation like what, how how can one do

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<v Speaker 3>that in a sustinct thirty second SoundBite, Like how do

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<v Speaker 3>you address that?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh, I was gonna say, Now I think you just

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<v Speaker 8>addressed it, like, hey, the Tuskegee experiment, Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 8>fucked up, but this ain't that get vaccinated.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's more than a particular experiment, people, just a

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<v Speaker 6>skibe experiment and everything that America has done to you

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<v Speaker 6>in the past, from the beginning, from the beginning, from

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<v Speaker 6>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Taking your mother's wombs and doing shit like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I know, Tiffany can articulate it better.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, I honestly, you took the words out of

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<v Speaker 5>my mouth. I mean, it was the scientific experiment on

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<v Speaker 5>black people during enslavement. It was a Henrietta Lack story.

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<v Speaker 5>It was even during the fifties that they would kicknap

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<v Speaker 5>black people and do scientific experiments on them. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>black people just go missing. Their lives are in value.

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<v Speaker 5>But the thing is, because I don't want to just

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<v Speaker 5>discount what what black people feel, but I do find

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<v Speaker 5>that when people say, oh, but what about the Tuskegee experiment,

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<v Speaker 5>and I asked them, you tell me what you think

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<v Speaker 5>the Tuskegee experiment is and people don't understand it right.

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<v Speaker 5>People think that they were literally injecting black men with syphilists,

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<v Speaker 5>and I have to explain to them, no, that's not

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<v Speaker 5>the case.

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<v Speaker 4>So what there's vaccine?

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<v Speaker 5>Right? Exactly what does thataccine? It's like people understandably are distrustful,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's like I know some of y'all out there

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<v Speaker 5>and bought some pre rolls. You don't really know what's.

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<v Speaker 6>In that, but you're still hold on Not Tiffany, we

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<v Speaker 6>do know what's in it because they tell you exactly

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<v Speaker 6>what are the ingredients and how much TSC TC.

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<v Speaker 5>The vaccine tells you. But the vaccine you can have

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<v Speaker 5>what specifically is in the vaccine, like.

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<v Speaker 4>You go and eat you know, beyond burd.

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<v Speaker 5>Right exactly, like you if you trust those things, like

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<v Speaker 5>get the vaccine. And then you're asking adults to get vaccinated.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's like when we got vaccinated when we were kids.

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<v Speaker 5>You just don't remember like now as an adult, like

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<v Speaker 5>go get that needle in your arm, like every be

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<v Speaker 5>responsible for the next person's health.

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<v Speaker 3>So, to be honest with you, I'm also hearing more

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<v Speaker 3>from you know, the amount of unfollowing that I've been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>To hotep Twitter.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, it because I mean, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 3>more like, see, this is how they get the chip

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<v Speaker 3>in your arm.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know there's people still response Irresponse's working with

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<v Speaker 8>its working.

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<v Speaker 2>With conspiracy theory things. So like the chip is in

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<v Speaker 2>your own the chip is in your fucking pocket. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called your cell phone. Exactly. We done being lost that

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<v Speaker 2>war bro, It's over.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're not off the grid at all.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not just black people who are afraid of the vaccine.

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<v Speaker 7>Was not making a joke, Steve No. I mean I'm gonna,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna get it and everything. But I know I

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<v Speaker 7>know a whole slew of white people who are afraid

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<v Speaker 7>of the vaccine for other reasons, you know, obviously not

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<v Speaker 7>let us reasons. Just you know, the all the conspiracy

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<v Speaker 7>anti vaccine community.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot forgot shipping me in my arm. They're they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be able to track me.

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<v Speaker 7>They're gonna it's the aliens whatever, like you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>it's not there's there's a as.

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<v Speaker 2>What could be an auto Jenny McCarthy ship.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, the anti batter thing, and like you know,

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<v Speaker 7>hopefully that's there's not enough of them where it affects

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<v Speaker 7>her immunity. But there's a significant amount of people that

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<v Speaker 7>I'm seeing or hearing from, Wow, that are legitimately anti

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<v Speaker 7>vaccine in general.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not anti vaccination, but I definitely was pro

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<v Speaker 2>waiting two to three months before.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The street that's all.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, you get it now? Did you get it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I would definitely get it. I more or less

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<v Speaker 2>wanted for my family first. Yeah, right, same here.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but you but your mother it should be easy

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<v Speaker 6>for her. So once that's the thing, right, Like, once

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<v Speaker 6>the elders get it and.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get it, do you, that's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>whole nother one.

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<v Speaker 4>Hugging people.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean you all may have already talked about this,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm just really curious about it. I am a

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<v Speaker 5>huge fan of sly and the family Stone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what is your.

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<v Speaker 5>Love connection with sly Stone? And I'm so excited about

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<v Speaker 5>the documentary?

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<v Speaker 9>That was a weird See someone who works in television

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<v Speaker 9>and media, it's a really weird segue.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an awesome segue.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the wheel screens on.

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<v Speaker 2>That got it? All right, sly Stone, Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the weird thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally went from I went from I'll say in December,

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<v Speaker 3>I went from somebody should make I went from that

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<v Speaker 3>person like, you know, what would be a good idea,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody should make a documentary?

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this much.

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<v Speaker 3>This is probably the most I will say on my

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<v Speaker 3>plan for this project before and before we shoot it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have I have a deep desire to really dive into.

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<v Speaker 3>Self sabotage and black genius, and I feel like this

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<v Speaker 3>is my opportunity to do that because it would be

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<v Speaker 3>really easy to just concentrate on the chronic lateness, the

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<v Speaker 3>cocaine use, the heroin.

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<v Speaker 1>Use, the abuse, all those things like I gut, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to do.

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<v Speaker 3>A tragic musicians story would be like very easy to do,

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<v Speaker 3>Like this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a genius and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, oftentimes when you see documentaries of people

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<v Speaker 3>that are in that are of the genius ilk, especially

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<v Speaker 3>with black people, you really don't get to see the

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<v Speaker 3>scientific process of one what makes them genius into you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like this whole like natural ability and God given talent,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there's more too that. So yes, I do want

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<v Speaker 3>to explore his genius songwriting, his you know, all his

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<v Speaker 3>songs are damn near like nursery rhymes.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that he took nursery rhymes and made them

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<v Speaker 2>into hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Singles is one thing, but only because the film that

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<v Speaker 3>I previously did focused on such a victory lap for him,

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<v Speaker 3>him doing the Harlem Cultural Festival and then doing Woodstock

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<v Speaker 3>two weeks later, and often wonder like, Okay, so then

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<v Speaker 3>after you did Woodstock and you have the world in

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<v Speaker 3>the palm of your hand.

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<v Speaker 2>All you had to do was put the ball in

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<v Speaker 2>the basket, but you did, like if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember, Carlton and the Fresh Prince of Belly are like

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<v Speaker 3>stealing the ball from Will and throwing it the opposite

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<v Speaker 3>direction and missing, Like I want to know, why did

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<v Speaker 3>he sabotage that moment?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's only yeah, I do. And here's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>which leads into how many of you seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Billy Holliday's movie. The one good takeaway from the Billie

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<v Speaker 3>Holiday not the one could take away like it's a

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<v Speaker 3>bad takeaway, but the one sure fire takeaway that one

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<v Speaker 3>can get is that when you're living in this time

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<v Speaker 3>period like it's it's you're living in constant terror. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's no way for you to operate normally, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's almost like I think people think that, well,

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<v Speaker 3>because you're a celebrity or you're a successful singer, you

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<v Speaker 3>have these hit singles, then your life is great. And

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<v Speaker 3>what happens is is that you see how being raped

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<v Speaker 3>that ten affected her. You see how her seeing how

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<v Speaker 3>she wrote strange fruits, like seeing those dead bodies swinging

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<v Speaker 3>and all that stuff like that affects you. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think for it sly and for a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>black people, there's a lot of I deal with this

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, a lot of guilt, you know, I'll put

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<v Speaker 3>it this way. The night that I won Sun Dance, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually caught myself like trying to tell my publicist

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<v Speaker 3>to not send out press alerts because I was already

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<v Speaker 3>managing this person feeling in some sort of way or

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<v Speaker 3>that person or like a here is doing too much

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<v Speaker 3>and da da da da da. Like I found myself

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<v Speaker 3>almost going there, like undoing a whole year's worth of work.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think whatsly that will also answer the

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<v Speaker 3>question why we are dealing with the music that we

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<v Speaker 3>have today and why this person takes a decade or

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<v Speaker 3>more to make an album or that person takes two

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<v Speaker 3>decades more to make an album or this person has

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<v Speaker 3>a dependency problem, or this person keeps getting thrown in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Like why do we keep self sabotaging because.

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<v Speaker 4>Artist or people just like everybody else, and we all

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<v Speaker 4>have trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>We all have.

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<v Speaker 5>Trauma, generational trauma. Even so there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I was I wasn't separating like artists are no

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<v Speaker 3>different than regular people. But that's the thing, like artists

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<v Speaker 3>are regular people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's self sabotaged. I think it's just

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<v Speaker 2>mental illness.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's trauma not knowing how to deal

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<v Speaker 4>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean we just learned now how it was LaStone

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<v Speaker 6>doing it just self medicating, right, because and he didn't

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<v Speaker 6>even know there wasn't even a term called self medicating then.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it was just called drugs.

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<v Speaker 5>Mental illness or is it like just trying to manage

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<v Speaker 5>like our day, you know, like I think about everything

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<v Speaker 5>we're going through today, we're all collectively experiencing something traumatic

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<v Speaker 5>every day.

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<v Speaker 8>So well, the reason why that causes mental illness, I

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<v Speaker 8>think because we all are losing our damn minds.

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<v Speaker 3>When I'm researching, when I'm researching on him, is that, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the average black person in their professional career

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<v Speaker 3>off goes through. I mean, everyone has their level of

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<v Speaker 3>code switching that you have to do. Like your office

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<v Speaker 3>persona is different from you're in front of the mirror

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<v Speaker 3>in the shower persona, and your cousin's persona and your

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<v Speaker 3>next door neighbor, like you have different masks or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm now, you know, in doing the research, realizing that

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<v Speaker 3>Sly has to, you know, kind of code switch for

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<v Speaker 3>the panthers who are just starting out and pressuring him

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<v Speaker 3>heavily to stay black and stop doing this hippie shit.

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<v Speaker 3>But then on the other side of the bay, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like these counterculture hippies that Sly actually raised, Like I've

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<v Speaker 3>the one one part of his life I didn't study

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<v Speaker 3>that much was between sixty three and sixty seven when

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<v Speaker 3>he got his deal, was that he was he was

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<v Speaker 3>one of the first kind of post Timothy Leary counterculture

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<v Speaker 3>tune out, do what you want to do, like hip

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<v Speaker 3>voice of a particular radio station in San Francisco, which

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<v Speaker 3>basically informed like all those white counterculture hippies, like if anything,

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<v Speaker 3>like Sly actually built those hippies so to be to

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<v Speaker 3>to stay black or on one side of Oakland and

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<v Speaker 3>to tune in, tune in, tune.

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<v Speaker 1>Out with the hippies, uh in San Francisco, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then have to talk money and business with the squares,

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<v Speaker 3>like the people that are signed as checks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that can be exhausting as hell.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah yeah, yeah, So I mean we all we all

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<v Speaker 5>called twitch a little bit. I think I'm been intentional

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<v Speaker 5>to not do that, though honestly I try to. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure on some level I do, But at a certain

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<v Speaker 5>point it was just like not that you know, you're right,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't.

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<v Speaker 6>That's privilege. That's twenty twenty privilege. Yeah, That's why I

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<v Speaker 6>love you, because that's twenty twenty privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you guys follow what's her name?

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<v Speaker 10>She?

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<v Speaker 3>She's a Philadelphia news correspondent, la. I know her instagram

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<v Speaker 3>is miss news Lady, but she often does these, Uh

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<v Speaker 3>she does her tiktoks and her instagrams in which she's Dominican.

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<v Speaker 3>She's Dominican black. Yes, what's yeah, Janette Rays She's She's

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<v Speaker 3>a Philadelphia news broadcaster and her entire instagram is dedicated

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of coach switching because she's Dominican, So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a way she talks when she's with her Dominican

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<v Speaker 3>friends and then.

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<v Speaker 2>With her husband huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah anyway, and and then there's her news voice. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's the thing I was noticing. The first thing I

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<v Speaker 3>noticed about Tiffany was that you don't have a news voice.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also noticed that there's difference between like local

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<v Speaker 3>network news than it is for.

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:05.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, broadcast news.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, hit, the cable news is a bit different. That's true.

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<v Speaker 5>But I saw and I hear you like, because twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty one privilege of twenty like it is a thing.

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<v Speaker 5>But I still think people code switch. And I just

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<v Speaker 5>feel like this girl she was she designed a website

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<v Speaker 5>for me. This was like seven years ago. She's a

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<v Speaker 5>white girl, and she tweeted about it and she was

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<v Speaker 5>like gone and hit bat dat yeah. And she was

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<v Speaker 5>about twenty two years old, And I was like, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what, I'm twice this girl's age and she trying

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<v Speaker 5>to sound like me. I'm not close switching anymore.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>While everybody get used to it, why does she have

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<v Speaker 5>the privilege to tweet and talk like I do authentically

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<v Speaker 5>and she can appropriate it and comfort that I don't

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<v Speaker 5>have as my natural state of being.

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<v Speaker 4>It was abrupt.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, like I'm not doing that shit anymore. This

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 5>is it.

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<v Speaker 4>Deal with it.

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<v Speaker 5>And then it's like people make jokes and cultural references

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:12.399
<v Speaker 5>all the time that you know, that's not my cultural reference.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, are you're dropping a line from something that

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<v Speaker 5>I'll married like, oh classic, I'm like if I drop

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<v Speaker 5>a line from Harlem Knights or Coming to America, that's

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<v Speaker 5>my classic. You know, Like we experience what they find

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<v Speaker 5>funny all the time, like come, like why do we

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<v Speaker 5>have to have ours in a vertical you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>a separate tab. So I just say, yeah, if I

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<v Speaker 5>say a joke or reference something, you don't get it.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't for you.

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<v Speaker 2>And that wasn't for you.

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<v Speaker 4>At what point, at what point in your life did

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<v Speaker 4>you feel comfortable doing that?

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<v Speaker 11>Like when I went to be When I went to

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<v Speaker 11>be Eta, it was very unorthodox.

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<v Speaker 3>We never waited a half hour to actually get into

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<v Speaker 3>the story. Like I know, I was just thinking, we

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<v Speaker 3>go where do you grow up? We haven't gotten of

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 3>that ship yet, Like we skipped all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we just skip it, like we just went and

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<v Speaker 2>kicking it.

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<v Speaker 5>We just.

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<v Speaker 9>Switching codes and cultural approach ures just like way early,

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<v Speaker 9>it's hey, you're talking to the wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy, I've been doing it like he's making fun of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about let's talk about it. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>red light district.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to know how how you got in

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<v Speaker 2>the game.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean i've i've you know, I became aware of

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<v Speaker 3>you because you were always uh ms C m s

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<v Speaker 3>nb c's go to person when it came to well,

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 3>when I really started paying attention to m S NBC, say,

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<v Speaker 3>like the last two years of Obama's administration, you would

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<v Speaker 3>often be on as a talking head or whatever. Definitely

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 3>during the beginning of forty five's administration.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, how did how did you get your start?

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<v Speaker 4>And we find out where she's from. I just want

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<v Speaker 4>to know where she's from.

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<v Speaker 5>From Cleveland, but I grew up actually in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I hate me too. Yeah really no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah no, no, you can't. We said this last year,

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.360
<v Speaker 2>you can't clean three cities. But I graduated.

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<v Speaker 4>I've graduated from Clark Atlanta University. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>you do it is, I don't clean.

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<v Speaker 5>You claim it if twelve years, all right, I'll clean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but you claiming c a U. Yeah, yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 5>born in Cleveland, but I grew up in Atlanta, and

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<v Speaker 5>I've been in d C now for twenty years. Oh wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>twenty one years. Twenty one years and I came to DC.

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<v Speaker 5>I was with CNN in Atlanta and they relocated me

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<v Speaker 5>to DC to cover Capitol Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, I just you know, honestly, you guys, I

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 5>had a really rough time.

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't have any money. I didn't come from privilege.

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 5>I was in Atlanta. I was out there just on

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 5>my own, struggling. I was a bake teller at First Union.

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 4>That's a good, great college job, it is.

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 5>But I needed to make some money and I needed

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<v Speaker 5>to eat and I needed to live, you know. And

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<v Speaker 5>so it was a program director of v won O three,

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<v Speaker 5>the major urbanization.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, bid man, baby. I used to be his intern.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, I need to do the news. I begged my

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<v Speaker 5>way into doing the news for their Frank Sky Morning Shoe. Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I'm gonna tell y'all, I was like twenty one.

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 5>The program director said I could do it. I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>have a car, so I used to have to get

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 5>Tony Brown. He was because my uncle worked on way

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 5>back in the day. And I was like, you know,

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 5>my uncle, and I begged his ass, like, just give

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 5>me a chance. And I used to have to be

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 5>there at the crack of dawn with no car. Martin

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 5>started running on time. I mean I would get.

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<v Speaker 4>Were smart.

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<v Speaker 5>The hood.

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 4>Africans rapidly through Atlanta.

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 5>I like, no. My uncle was Marco Spoon, who's radio

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 5>personality in Houston.

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 5>He was in l A for a while. He was

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 5>in DC for a while, and he and Tony Brown

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 5>worked together and yeah, so Tony was like, all right,

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 5>you can do the news, and so I'm gonna tell

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 5>y'all when I got the news doing Frank C Morning Show.

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 4>I was like, Lord, I made it.

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 5>You have blessed me. You ain't got to do nothing

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 5>else for me. I'm about to get so much money.

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna push it hont A seventh one day on

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<v Speaker 5>I got a republic and make your great. And I

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 5>was in say, the Lord had a bigger vision for

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 5>my life than I did, because that was how I

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 5>got my foot in the door to do news. And

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 5>then after that I went to they You probably remember this.

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 5>The TSU Classic would take place in Atlanta and I

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 5>this is before everybody had email. So I used to

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 5>have to carry around paper copies of my resume just

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 5>in case, and I did, thank God. And I met

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 5>a black executive who worked at CNN, and I gave

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 5>him my resume and he said, I can't do anything

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 5>but guarantee you an interview. And I said, that's all

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 5>I need, brother, is an interview. And never since then

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 5>the rest is history. I was at CNN and I

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 5>worked my ass off. I worked seven days a week,

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 5>and somebody said you should go to DC, be a

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 5>good fit, and they relocated me here, and my whole

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 5>life I wanted to be the brown Murphy Brown. And

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 5>I got here and hustle, hustle, hustle, and I felt

0:29:57.160 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 5>real and welcome, though you guys like the news room

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 5>was not very well welcoming to a young black, twenty

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 5>seven year old woman who had thoughts and opinions. And

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 5>so I left. But I but I think when I

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 5>got to be ET, I was able to do a

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 5>lot more, you know. But BT was different because they're like,

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:15.720
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm here in DC trying to be very

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 5>serious in covery Bush administration. They're like, you know, Tiffany,

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 5>we need you to go out and like, you know,

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 5>do the red carpet at the Grammys. I'm like, you know,

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 5>twenty five and I'm like, no, you guys, because George

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 5>take yours out of the time, you know.

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I read that like I would go.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 5>But I was always very serious and all these like

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 5>famous people would be around and I'm all, like, you.

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:42.720
<v Speaker 2>Know, capet walk By, I was, but look I was

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 2>not on.

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 5>Air, Amir. I was a producer. So I used to

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 5>work with this on air talent who did all entertainment.

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Her name is Sharon Carpenter. She was British.

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 4>Yes, global grind, yes, yes, yes, Sharon and I my

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 4>girl father.

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 5>I love her. So she, Sharen and I we worked

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 5>together a lot, and she was like a beauty, you know.

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 5>So people would like push past me, always trying to

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 5>get this year, and and there was always somebody from

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 5>the entourage like trying to holler at me. And I

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 5>was very serious, you know, I'm like, excuse me, I'm

0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 5>on a phone call. Thank you.

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I want to cover he re lax.

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 5>I was so uptight, you know. So yeah, I was

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 5>always grinding, like I'm probably now just at the point

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 5>when I turned forty, I think that's the first time

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 5>I exhaled. I was clinched all the time.

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 4>So many follow ups today. Yeah, I was up tight.

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 5>I was up tight. I was just you know, but

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 5>anyway I did that. I started my own business for

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 5>a while, a news outlet that senter people the VDC.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Coffington Post to say that or yeah.

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 5>But it was except that it was all people of color.

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 5>It was black, Latino, Asian American and Native American and

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 5>so we had you know, writers, and that was our folks.

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:02.880
<v Speaker 5>And that's how cable newsbookers were like, why don't you

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 5>call on our air and talk about it? And thankfully

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 5>Joy read I went on her show and we became friends.

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 5>And she was just the way that Melissa Harris carry

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 5>passed dway to Baton. Joy said very early on, like

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 5>I want you to have this show.

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 4>So she was very very ill.

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 5>I weren't for Joy.

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 6>I could tell when they y'all were going through the

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 6>thing where everybody was just filling in and that spot,

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:26.400
<v Speaker 6>I was like, oh.

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Tiffany's she's a she's a favorite.

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 5>I didn't feel that way at the time. I didn't

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 5>know what anybody was thinking.

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 4>We were, Yeah, we were cheering me and my mom

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 4>weering for you.

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 5>Thank you, thank you. It's been a it's been an adjustment,

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 5>you know, being I was always a producer. I was

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 5>always you know, preparing for my talent. So going from

0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 5>that to being from the control room to the green

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 5>room and then from the green room to the anchor chair,

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 5>it's been an adjustment, you know. But everybody has an opinion.

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, what's the hardest part of that

0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 2>adjustment going from behind the camera to being on camera?

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<v Speaker 5>You I think people's opinions screaming in my face, you know,

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 5>all day is hurtful, you know, Like everybody has a thought,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 5>and I'm just not used to that. You know, I'm

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 5>real regular, you know, and so when people see me,

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm never like, you know, I'm like, yeah, what's good,

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 5>what's up?

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 10>You know why?

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you want to take a picture, let's do it.

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 5>Like I'm so weird to me that somebody would recognize

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 5>me and say something. And so when people like say

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 5>something off, I'm like, damn, I'm out here trying to

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 5>do it for the culture and uplift my people, and

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 5>you thought enough of me to email me something ugly.

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm just not used to that.

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, damn, you don't even know.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's no that right now.

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 4>Sorry, it's like a Twitter and stuff.

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 5>Twitter DM my my website that people email you know

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 5>I read those things.

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 6>So Tiffany, let me ask you, what's your new Do

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 6>you have a new way of upkeeping your armor? What's

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 6>your new armor upkeep?

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 4>And has Joy? What has Joy suggested in that price?

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 5>Joy is so amazing, Like I really we I probably

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.360
<v Speaker 5>talked to Joy every day. I'll tell you guys, we

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 5>have a group chat where all of us who have

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.879
<v Speaker 5>faces incoming. So it's me, Joy, Angela Roy.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Group you say, all the ship they get you

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 2>canceled in public. You have to have one. You have

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 2>to have one.

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 5>It's a very safe space for a bunch of black

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 5>women who have a lot of incoming. And you know,

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 5>I have my armor publably. But sometimes I'm like, damn, y'all,

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 5>somebody you know said my blouse was sucked up today

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 5>or like some things, I'm like, damn, that feels so hurtful,

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 5>But I mean I have to reject it. And thankfully

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 5>I have friends who like it wouldn't matter if I

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:52.839
<v Speaker 5>was you know, we've been up the street, like they

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 5>just love me a mirror. This is so this is funny.

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you guys. I was with one of my

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 5>closest friends. We were having and she was like, I'm

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 5>thinking about making this soup on Tuesday. You should come over.

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 5>And I was like, oh, man, I think I have

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 5>something to do.

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:07.239
<v Speaker 4>And I looked.

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, oh, I can't do it because I'm doing

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 5>this thing with plus love. And she was like, oh

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 5>my god, tell them. I said, Hi, my friend Rachel

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 5>and Emir are apparently pals.

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, I knew that was next.

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 5>Rich Rachel, Rachel Rachel of Caribbean rhythms.

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:35.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, Rachel chewy chewy. Yeah, how was she doing?

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 5>Literally I had my hat on because I was running

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 5>from her house. I was like, what time is she

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.319
<v Speaker 5>like a six to fifty. I was like, oh my god,

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 5>I have to go. She made me this wonderful meal tonight.

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.880
<v Speaker 5>She's so awesome. We sit outside at her fireplace. She's amazing.

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.800
<v Speaker 5>She's a homemaker now. She has three kids. Her oldest

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 5>is like twenty. She has a set of twins who

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 5>are like seventeen. She still dropped it. Gorgeous, Yeah, like

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 5>walking embodiment of love. Like to know. She's the kindest,

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 5>sweetest person in the whole wide world. And I talked

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.440
<v Speaker 5>to her fifty times and I was literally on her

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.520
<v Speaker 5>couch outside telling her like how stressful it is, you know,

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 5>like I have to, you know, try to kill it

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 5>on my show every Saturday, and you know, try to

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 5>make sure I'm being culturally responsible to the rising majority

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 5>of this country. And because she's been in the spotlight

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 5>and had a whole different experience than I did, it's

0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.240
<v Speaker 5>just really nice to have that sisterhood and that away

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 5>time where we can just come and be our vulnerable

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 5>selves and talk unfiltered, you know. So that's how I

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 5>maintain my sanity, really, but I want to hear how

0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:38.359
<v Speaker 5>do you how do you guys maintain some some other

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.720
<v Speaker 5>methods of hoping it's.

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 2>The same thing.

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 8>You definitely have to have the clubhouse. You have to

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 8>have the clubhouse, the group chat, clubhouse. Pressure is just

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 8>this is just the rock nation brush that.

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Our goal. You should be. You should be in marketing, bro, Like,

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:09.399
<v Speaker 2>I just it's too much, brother, I'm wearing your shirt. Brother.

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's it's it's like when it when it

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 2>first up off, it is like let it like.

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:23.959
<v Speaker 4>That ship is hate.

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:25.919
<v Speaker 2>I hate when tells the truth.

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 10>Man.

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 8>No, it's just you know, if you're into that, if

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.399
<v Speaker 8>you missed the mixers and the label things, it's cool,

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 8>but not so now.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 2>The group chat definitely helps. Having a group chat where

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 2>you can.

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 8>See it won't get you can and won't get your

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.399
<v Speaker 8>cancel group. Just to get those thoughts out, that's good

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 8>I have. Also for me, it's been helpful. Like just walking,

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 8>it's been helpful. I like try to get some air

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 8>sunshine every day. Just get a good old walk in

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 8>and marijuana.

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 5>I the way my direct deposit is set up, I'm

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 5>not gonna understand, but I a.

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 4>Wave that your direct deposit is set up now.

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 2>That is.

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's certain a job. But from from a policy perspective,

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 5>let me just say that I'm very excited that they're

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 5>exploring moving marijuana off the Schedule one drugs as it

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 5>should be.

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 2>At the same time.

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 4>If you, if you could you live in Jersey.

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm just saying that we're two employees of NBC.

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 7>I just never knew if Yeah, so hold on, I've

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 7>been writing this entire it's the entire last thirty years. Yes,

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 7>all right, sorry, Yeah, everything that Fantees said, It's true,

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 7>uh walks Uh.

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.399
<v Speaker 1>Meditation is also yeah, big one.

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to get into it.

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.439
<v Speaker 4>My mind is always going a mir what's that? What app?

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Are you an app? Dude? Because or are you just

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 4>even bigger than that which you breathe.

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Is some one called breeds? I made that up right now,

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 2>my guy YouTube, my guys.

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Doctor Joe despends it. I was you, Tiffany, like I

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 3>can't sit silent for you know, for these amount of times.

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 3>And you know, the first when I started was like,

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 3>all right, fifteen minutes. Can I sit there for fifteen minutes?

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:15.359
<v Speaker 4>That's long?

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, slight disclos with my girlfriend says I go overboard,

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 3>like not even you know, not not even you know

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.640
<v Speaker 3>the Deepak Chopri would meditate for three hours a day.

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 4>So three hot kind of who's got that kind of time?

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Sh Yeah? This guy.

0:39:32.920 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 9>You see what my ear was like last year you

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 9>got you missed the knightety jobs, you have three hours

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 9>run fucking up?

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 2>See he let my victories this year? Yeah yeah, all right, yeah.

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 3>Trying to do ship except for meditate three hours every

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.800
<v Speaker 3>day since March thirteenth.

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Well aren't you well, can.

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:52.800
<v Speaker 6>I just say, Tim, if you do think about meditating,

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 6>I just the baby step would be.

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 4>I kind of started with headspace. They started like three minutes.

0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 6>You can go three, five, T twenty and they teach

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 6>you kind of how to go through the process, close

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 6>your eyes and rid of the out space, you know

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 6>what I mean, Like it's a whole process, and they

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 6>bring you back. So a lot of you know those

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 6>apps I'm not going to say specifically helps you.

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, look up doctor Joe Despenser. He's he's

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 3>the one that kind of pulled me off the ledge

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 3>of this is dumb. Like at first it's like this

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 3>is dumb, and then I can't do.

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.399
<v Speaker 4>This, doctor Joe dispensa.

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Joe Dispensa.

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's he was the the entry to me really

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 3>under and he explained it in a way that you

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 3>know that I got it. And now I absolutely believe

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:50.320
<v Speaker 3>that that is single handedly why the things that have

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 3>been happening have happened. I've had zero I've had I

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 3>had zero plans for none of this shit that's happened.

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, and when you do three hours as

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 2>a three continuous hours, or do you break it.

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Up I do two hours in the morning and I

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:08.399
<v Speaker 3>do an hour at night before I go to bed,

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 3>because they said it's important for you to not go

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 3>to sleep immediately after like you watch the news. Normally

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 3>I would go to sleep after Rachel, Like after Rachel

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 3>goes on, then I go to sleep. And that's the

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 3>worst thing to do, Okay, Rachel be on to be

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:30.800
<v Speaker 3>on right, and or I sleep the MSNBC and that's

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 3>not or just watch a movie. So it's almost like

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 3>you gotta clean It's like showering. You gotta cleanse and

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 3>just sit in silence for that time period.

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 10>You know.

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 3>First I started with the listing things I want to

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 3>achieve in life, and then now I'm just in the

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 3>stage where I just sit silently, and yeah, I think

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 3>that that's that's the key because the thing is literally

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 3>I can't stress it enough that and I gotta get

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 3>out this thing.

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Crystals to a mirror.

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 6>Though you got things for your energy, Like, don't let

0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:08.440
<v Speaker 6>Timny just think you got the meditation, You got the crystals,

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 6>like you.

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:10.120
<v Speaker 4>Want some stuff.

0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:14.919
<v Speaker 5>Your house looks very psychedelic.

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's because my girlfriend is very psychedelic. This isn't

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 3>no different world. What's what's your name, Freddie and uh shaka.

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 10>No.

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 5>It feels like you know, it feels like when Charlie

0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 5>Murphy saw Princess Aura, like right now, Yeah, that's what

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 5>it looks like.

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 4>But working out, working out too, TIF working out helps.

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I do. I find when I'm walking that helps.

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 5>I have this like ad machine that I do that helps,

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:58.120
<v Speaker 5>and other things, you know, other things. It's challenging though,

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, like everything. I think it's a stress and

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.680
<v Speaker 5>the news, like I can understand, like not being able

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:05.560
<v Speaker 5>to sleep after you watch the news because the news

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 5>is often challenging, you know what, what's happening in the world.

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:11.919
<v Speaker 4>Most of our parents that's how they go to sleep,

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 4>most of our parents.

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 8>There, I can't do it. I don't see I don't

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 8>keep it. I don't keep a TV. I never had

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:23.800
<v Speaker 8>a TV in my bedroom, so that was like, yeah, please,

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 8>what Grace been trying to get you to get get

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 8>it out? That's that's so hard. That's one of the

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 8>main issues right now with the new spot.

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 4>No Adult Swim at night.

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I want a TV in my bedroom and I think

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to lose this battle.

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm telling it's for the best man, like it's

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 8>true best because it's just yeah, like.

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Because you you learned like in the space.

0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 8>And this was particularly important with the pandemic when we

0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 8>were all at home and it was just the thing

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:58.879
<v Speaker 8>of training your mind to get used to having every

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 8>space has its specific function. So when my son had

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 8>to do his uh like school, you know, my wife

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 8>she was like, well, baby, we can just do it

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 8>at the kitchen table.

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I was like, nah, this is where we eat dinner.

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 8>So we bought him a desk, so you know, you know,

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 8>to sit down at this desk that tells your mind

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 8>it's time to go to work.

0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:20.799
<v Speaker 2>And when you're in the bedroom, you know, I don't

0:44:20.840 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 2>want like TV. That's the place for me. It's time

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.439
<v Speaker 2>to go to sleep or to work, depending on the doe.

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:26.479
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 10>You know.

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 8>So yeah, it's just that it's something that's been super helpful.

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:32.879
<v Speaker 8>But yeah, I never kept a TV in the bedroom. Man,

0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 8>it you get a lot.

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 3>You sleep so much better really in your life or

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 3>in your adult life. In my life, like, I never

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 3>had one games.

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean I would play them, but then when it

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 2>was time to go to bed, and I was like,

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 2>all right, cut it off. I just cut it off

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and that was it, you know what I mean.

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 8>But I couldn't go to sleep to like noise, like

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 8>because the thing is like I could sleep to music,

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 8>but I can't sleep to TV because it sounds like

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.000
<v Speaker 8>it feels like somebody is trying to have a conversation

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 8>me while I'm trying to go to sleep, like I'm

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.280
<v Speaker 8>trying to go to sleep in a niggas like, hey man.

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Sleep Remember that time we was just like the fun up.

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 2>So I just I just do music, but I don't

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 2>do TV.

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Uh see before yeah, before she moved in, I'll say

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:20.840
<v Speaker 3>that I kept TV constantly running because it was like

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 3>a roommate, you know, this companionship. And I hated the

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 3>sound of silence like that was you know now, I

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:34.800
<v Speaker 3>can't wait for silence. But before me both yeah, before

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.720
<v Speaker 3>Grace moved in, I couldn't stand silent.

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:38.800
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna ask Tiffany not to be in her business.

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 4>But do you have a partner, a COVID partner?

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 5>No, I live alone. And I was curious when you

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 5>were in your girlfriend moved in. I'm like, I can

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna tell you, guys, I cannot imagine being stuck

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 5>in this house with another human being. It's a two bedroom.

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 5>I mean it's upstairs downstairs, so I guess one person

0:45:57.360 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 5>could be up But I just like doing what I

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 5>want to do, you know what I mean, Like I'm

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:03.680
<v Speaker 5>not negotiating over what I want to watch on the TV.

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 5>What I want to be, you know. And I think

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 5>it would be a really big adjustment to do that.

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.879
<v Speaker 5>But I'd be open to like a relationship where we're

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 5>married and my husband lives across the street and he

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:19.160
<v Speaker 5>can come into my ship anytime he wants, he wants exactly.

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 4>They did that.

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 2>A lot.

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.719
<v Speaker 4>There's there's another couple you hear about that. They did

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 4>a lot.

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 3>They did a lot.

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was it was open. They had an open

0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 2>word for a little bit. I don't know. They swing.

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 4>I was when swingers, but yeah, yeah, tiny without all

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 4>the Oh my.

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 2>God, I just said, I said, they made CNN it

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 2>just mean white people news love what.

0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 4>Gets the word Wait a minute, bills it again?

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 8>I said, I said what No, I said, see it

0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 8>and loves it when I gets off up with white people.

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 4>That's all right, it's the truth, it's all.

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 2>But they took him out of being said hold on,

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 2>They took him out of Iron Man. Not iron Man.

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 2>They took him out of a Man three. I think

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I saw they just.

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 5>The mar world.

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.560
<v Speaker 4>Oh, this ain't good because you know once you went

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 4>in to the Marvel world.

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Although waking up, this is this role play going wrong.

0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 9>T I and Tiny denied sexual assault allegations as attorney

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 9>seeks investigation of them.

0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:39.440
<v Speaker 6>How there was an amazing theatrical re enactment of all

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 6>the accusations that it's combined into a movie that you

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 6>will see. I just saw that on the block. I

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 6>will send it to you, but there.

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait for this.

0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:50.879
<v Speaker 6>Everything talking about each separate incident and what happened. I'm

0:47:50.920 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 6>talking about from interns to an ex military girl.

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot, you know, but it's it's actual testimony.

0:47:59.760 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but they're actors, Okay.

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was, like you remember when they used

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.960
<v Speaker 3>to do the sort of animation version of things, like

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 3>when Tiger Woods had his first car crash reenactment.

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was that.

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 4>That ain't gonna be on. You wouldn't.

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 6>That's ill, because like, is it hard to pick and

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:25.719
<v Speaker 6>choose hm as a as a black person and so consciously.

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:32.279
<v Speaker 4>Excuse this term woke, woken, Yeah, what stories because you

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying, Yeah, I do. You know, it's

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:37.279
<v Speaker 4>not hard for me.

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 5>What's hard is convincing the people around me to trust me,

0:48:42.400 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, because I think cable news has become such

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 5>an echo chamber and it's like, oh, but like these

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:50.320
<v Speaker 5>are the four topics that we're talking about today, And

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:52.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, no, I get that, but these are the

0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 5>black ass topics I'm going to talk about today And

0:48:55.480 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 5>can we meet somewhere, you know, in the middle, like

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 5>I'll you know, have a different like panelists on that

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:02.839
<v Speaker 5>you want, but this is what I want to cover.

0:49:03.160 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 5>Like I did a whole thing on All Star last

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 5>weekend because I'm like, I know people who are traveling

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.480
<v Speaker 5>to Atlanta. But it was like I got to convince

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:13.080
<v Speaker 5>y'all that this is a story to do.

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.560
<v Speaker 4>You know. I'm like, I get nobody else is.

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:18.799
<v Speaker 5>Talking about it, but I promise you on my timeline,

0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 5>like All Star Weekend is a story of discussion. So

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 5>we had Jamil Hill and Carrie Champion on to talk

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 5>about that, and to me, it was a no brainer.

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 5>But there are people, you know who operate from a

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.640
<v Speaker 5>spirit of fear and it's like, but this is what

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 5>we do, and this is what we have always done.

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.800
<v Speaker 5>And you know something people don't realize. A majority of

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 5>cable news viewers are white men over the age of sixty,

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 5>and so it's still now. MSNBC does enjoy a disproportionate

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 5>amount of black viewers, the highest amount of viewers among

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:52.040
<v Speaker 5>any other network, and not just any other news network,

0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 5>but any other cable network. So that includes bt TV

0:49:55.840 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 5>one like everything. More black viewers tuned in MSNBC, but portionately,

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.319
<v Speaker 5>most of the viewers are white men over the age

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 5>of sixty. So it's a constant reminder that you want

0:50:06.920 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 5>to bring the white men over the age of sixty,

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 5>you want to bring them along with the content. But

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 5>it's for me, it's a constant reminder like you, guys,

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 5>realize those people are not immortal. So you're ignoring the

0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:22.040
<v Speaker 5>rising majority of this country, who you know, might not know,

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 5>you know what, when you say the d D, they

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 5>might not immediately know what that means.

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:28.479
<v Speaker 4>Or when you talk about, oh.

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.479
<v Speaker 5>Well, the Gang of Age is gonna, you know, meet

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:33.759
<v Speaker 5>with President Biden if now off the top of their

0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 5>head knows what the Gang of eight is, you know,

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:37.360
<v Speaker 5>So it's like, how can we slow this down and

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:41.000
<v Speaker 5>inform people? And it is cable news, so entertain people

0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 5>and reflect people back to them, and to be honest

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 5>with you guys, like I'm still you know, I'm doing

0:50:46.840 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 5>the best I can, but I'm still figuring out some things.

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:52.919
<v Speaker 5>Because when Melissa hars Perry took this or created this show,

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 5>it was during the Obama years, and she was very professorial,

0:50:56.160 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 5>very cerebral. When Joy took over from MH it was

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:06.799
<v Speaker 5>during the beginning of Trump and Brains, you know, and say, yeah,

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 5>you guys are crazy. So now that I'm coming in

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:13.360
<v Speaker 5>during the Biden Harris administration, it is a you know,

0:51:13.520 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 5>like what do I want this show to be? And

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.279
<v Speaker 5>a part of what I wanted to be is the

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.080
<v Speaker 5>mirror that America needs to see, you know, Like I

0:51:20.239 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 5>might ruffle some feathers on the left because sometimes even

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 5>allies are a problem, or maybe I'm not the most

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 5>alike in some of my questions, you know, but like

0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:33.840
<v Speaker 5>these are questions that people want answers to, you know,

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:36.280
<v Speaker 5>when people are like, oh, I was a regular Republican

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:39.040
<v Speaker 5>fian you know how awful he was? Thank you, Thank you,

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:42.240
<v Speaker 5>my allies, You know, I like to send your position

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 5>and I want to have conversations about unity, but we

0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:47.000
<v Speaker 5>can't talk about that shit. And we're not going to

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 5>talk about the years, the centuries fucked up shit that

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 5>you know has already been happening. So at least respect

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:55.640
<v Speaker 5>me enough to say, hey, you know what, you're right

0:51:55.920 --> 0:51:57.879
<v Speaker 5>that shit was really racist or that shit was sucked

0:51:57.960 --> 0:51:59.480
<v Speaker 5>up and we shouldn't have done it. When I have

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:02.040
<v Speaker 5>to start from a place of you're you know, pissing

0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 5>in my face trying to convince me it is raining,

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 5>then it's like, what am I talking to you for?

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:09.359
<v Speaker 5>You know, they's not on six Change, Like I'd rather

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 5>talk about our star weekends?

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Can I can I ask? How how.

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Much control do you have over the driver's seat of

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>your show? Do you can?

0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 6>Like?

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Is it hard for you to not to be producer

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and the host of the show?

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 5>Very I mean, I think people remind me all the

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:35.160
<v Speaker 5>time you're not an executive producer anymore, you know, like

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 5>trust us to support you and lead you. But I

0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:42.319
<v Speaker 5>have a very strong committed vision to what I want

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 5>this show to be. So it is a battle, like

0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, a lot of weeks, it is a battle.

0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Did you get your producer.

0:52:50.600 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 5>No, so I'll tell you we're actually looking for an

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 5>executive producer now, So a mirror if you're open, you

0:52:56.680 --> 0:53:01.120
<v Speaker 5>know you're enjoying Jimmy, but.

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 2>You can get it in right.

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:12.960
<v Speaker 5>Exactly exactly. No, it's been hard a new executive producer

0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:14.799
<v Speaker 5>because we're you know, trying to use some different things

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 5>that I'm hoping to have somebody come in who's like

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 5>gets who doesn't operate from a spirit of fear, you know.

0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:23.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, I didn't want to get into the business,

0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.399
<v Speaker 3>but I there. That's why I wanted to know when

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 3>you came into the fold, what is what's the tug

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 3>of war situation? Like on what you wanted to be?

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.839
<v Speaker 3>Like who is because your name is on the show

0:53:35.960 --> 0:53:37.759
<v Speaker 3>that you get the final word or.

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:41.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, I mean it's still a battle, Like nobody

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 5>has Carte Blunt, you know, everybody has a boss and

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:44.880
<v Speaker 5>so and it's.

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:47.000
<v Speaker 4>A new show too, right, So yeah, it comes with

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 4>being a news.

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:49.799
<v Speaker 5>So there's some breathing room, but there also there's also

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:52.800
<v Speaker 5>something strange. So like Caesar Conde is the chair of

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:56.200
<v Speaker 5>NBC Universal News Group, and he's been very supportive, like

0:53:56.280 --> 0:53:59.440
<v Speaker 5>go create Rashida Jones is the first black woman to

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.160
<v Speaker 5>be a president the cable news network. So it's an

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:04.759
<v Speaker 5>honor and thrill to work for her, and she's been

0:54:04.880 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 5>very supportive. You know, everyone around me is an ally.

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 5>But then you know, you get to middle management because like,

0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:13.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, the chair doesn't have time to be looking

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:16.320
<v Speaker 5>at her a blocks, you know, but yeah, y'all go

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:19.640
<v Speaker 5>figure that out. And then middle management is like, yeah,

0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 5>we know what you want to do, but you know,

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:22.880
<v Speaker 5>here's what we do, and you have to you know,

0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 5>it's a give and take. I think my challenge is

0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:30.160
<v Speaker 5>I've been on both sides. I trust. I mean, I'm

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:33.120
<v Speaker 5>a bet on myself every time, and I have studied

0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:35.520
<v Speaker 5>the trends of cable news viewers and I see where

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:37.840
<v Speaker 5>this is going. I mean, you got to consider broadcast.

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.760
<v Speaker 5>We are all at the president's digital click yank everybody

0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:42.800
<v Speaker 5>under you know, and everybody's not gonna win in the

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:46.680
<v Speaker 5>streaming game. So it's like, why and do do something

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:48.399
<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump is wanted.

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 4>People want to get it.

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 5>But he did give cable news that they needed, and

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.759
<v Speaker 5>so it's like what else. People don't have that appetite

0:54:55.800 --> 0:54:57.759
<v Speaker 5>for that anymore, So what else can you give them

0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:00.200
<v Speaker 5>and if the cable news ratings across the border want

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:04.359
<v Speaker 5>to go down, then give them. Why not try something new?

0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.360
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'd rather be the needle and not the haystack,

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 5>Like why do I want to look at I'm never

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:10.840
<v Speaker 5>gonna out see an n CNN. I don't want to.

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, I worked there before. I don't want to

0:55:12.960 --> 0:55:14.880
<v Speaker 5>do what I did there. We're not going to be

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 5>Fox News, you know. So it's like, let me create

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:22.759
<v Speaker 5>an experience, an authentic experience where people feel like they're

0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:25.400
<v Speaker 5>either eavesdropping on a conversation or they're a part of

0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 5>the conversation, and I know what people are talking about.

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:33.440
<v Speaker 5>And sometimes I think people, you know, I think they

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:37.840
<v Speaker 5>think they know the community best, and I know I

0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:42.880
<v Speaker 5>know the community past. So there is every week a

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:48.719
<v Speaker 5>lot of healthy exchange of ideas and ideology. But just

0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 5>so people know, I am like, if I'm not going

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:53.000
<v Speaker 5>to talk about something on Earth, I'm not going to

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 5>say something on the ear that I don't believe, and

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm not going to talk about something that I think

0:55:56.800 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 5>is damaging, you know, like if there's some clown on air,

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 5>like you know it's a black Republican who was on

0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:05.239
<v Speaker 5>you know, some show who was saying a bunch of

0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 5>dumb ship. I don't I don't want to put that

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 5>person on the air because who do they represent? You know,

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 5>like there is a random why would I you don't.

0:56:13.000 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Want to give them a platform?

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:14.239
<v Speaker 10>Right?

0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Why you amplify?

0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And they often want you to have people that have

0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.239
<v Speaker 1>opposing point of view to right.

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 5>But any elected Republican is more than welcome to come

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:24.640
<v Speaker 5>on my show, you know.

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 6>But they do is that where Candace Owens is on

0:56:27.560 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 6>staff is MSNBC's on staff. Where I was at MSNBC,

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:36.040
<v Speaker 6>the MSNBC, CNN, I hope not an official correspondent.

0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:43.279
<v Speaker 4>She yeah, like she's one of their go to apologies.

0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:48.280
<v Speaker 4>Are you sure I'm sorry not Candace Owens?

0:56:48.400 --> 0:56:48.440
<v Speaker 6>No?

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:58.200
<v Speaker 4>Utah, okay me a love, me a love That's what

0:56:58.320 --> 0:56:59.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, apology.

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:03.080
<v Speaker 5>See that she's at CNN. But there is an encouragement

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:05.800
<v Speaker 5>to get Republicans on the show, and you know, I

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 5>think sometimes there's this underlying like, you know, like don't

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:11.799
<v Speaker 5>be so you know, like you have to create an

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 5>environment where Republicans feel safe.

0:57:15.160 --> 0:57:18.760
<v Speaker 4>And America America.

0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:24.880
<v Speaker 5>Let's let's tell the black woman to make the Republican

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 5>part right yo, or even these conversations about the future

0:57:28.640 --> 0:57:30.560
<v Speaker 5>at a Republican party. I care about the future at

0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 5>the community, you know, like I just talk about that.

0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 4>Tiffany.

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.800
<v Speaker 6>Can I tell you a moment that you inspire my

0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 6>fear to go down? Because not for nothing. I have

0:57:38.160 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 6>been allowed black woman for a long time, and people

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 6>have been trying to shut me up for a long

0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:43.800
<v Speaker 6>time to where it's finally studied to take effect.

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, I shut up.

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 6>It's real, because I do I be wanting anyway, Tiffany,

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 6>you I was going to say the moment that you

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 6>were on the View and we were they were talking

0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.040
<v Speaker 6>about you know this moment I'm just gonna explain to

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:01.600
<v Speaker 6>the audience when and you were talking. You were talking

0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:04.640
<v Speaker 6>about female other females that should be running as beep

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 6>at that Biden should pick us VP, and Woopy Goldberg

0:58:07.800 --> 0:58:09.280
<v Speaker 6>said to you, it should be just be a woman

0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:12.080
<v Speaker 6>of color, what about Tammy Duckworth, And you went into

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:15.959
<v Speaker 6>an amazing diatribe about why it should be a black woman.

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:19.080
<v Speaker 6>And that moment was to meet such a fearless moment

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 6>because as easy as that sounded for you to do,

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:23.919
<v Speaker 6>It's just it wasn't.

0:58:24.600 --> 0:58:28.120
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't Yeah, everybody. Everybody would responded that way. Somebody

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:29.960
<v Speaker 4>would have just been like, well, you know what, Whoope,

0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 4>you got a point a woman of color.

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:35.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, I you know, it was not challenging

0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 5>for me to do because I believe so passionately, and

0:58:38.240 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 5>I think Whoopee has a different lived experience than I do.

0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 5>And this is no disrespect to Whoopee, because I admire

0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 5>her work and what she's done. But and I know

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 5>that she has an authentic experience as a black woman,

0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:54.040
<v Speaker 5>So I don't take that away from her. But I

0:58:54.160 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 5>will say very respectfully, I think some people don't understand

0:58:57.760 --> 0:58:59.960
<v Speaker 5>the difference between a black face and a black voice.

0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:02.960
<v Speaker 5>And I think on that show, Whoopee is not always

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<v Speaker 5>speaking on behalf of the community, but she's speaking on

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:10.960
<v Speaker 5>behalf of her unique lived experience that consistent mostly of Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, different experiences than entertainment, and not what

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<v Speaker 5>the streets are saying, not what you know we're sitting

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<v Speaker 5>around our kitchen table saying. So again, I'm not dissing Whoopee,

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<v Speaker 5>but yeah, I think I'm speaking for you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of people who feel like Black people have given

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<v Speaker 5>it all, So why can the gun lobby come in

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<v Speaker 5>and make demands of an incoming administration. The religious right

0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:43.920
<v Speaker 5>can make demands of an incoming administration. People who are

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<v Speaker 5>sucking against stem cell research can come again come in

0:59:46.840 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 5>and make demands. But black folks who built this motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 5>we can't come in and.

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<v Speaker 4>Like are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Like we ought to be able to.

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<v Speaker 5>Make every demand that we want to. Our ancestors felt

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<v Speaker 5>this bitch, and we still don't feel well. We're still

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<v Speaker 5>spilling blood in the streets, and you know, I find

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<v Speaker 5>it disheartening that sometimes people are like, oh, please, don't

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<v Speaker 5>ask for too much, and it's like, yes, harness our power.

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<v Speaker 5>We're not asking at this point, like we delivered you

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<v Speaker 5>to the White House and this is what we need,

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<v Speaker 5>and ask for that shit unapologetically with some you know,

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<v Speaker 5>put it in your test and then make a demand

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<v Speaker 5>I needed.

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<v Speaker 2>You're basically running for president in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Correct pass that I would never pass that.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that actually happened so we could play this

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<v Speaker 2>episode back for you. Ye I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Lately I stalk you Saturday mornings just to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>that you're going to be on air or whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>But when does your day start? And preparing for your

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday show?

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<v Speaker 5>So honestly, because what's your routine. I'm obsessed. And like

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<v Speaker 5>I said, I was an executive producer before, so I'm

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<v Speaker 5>trying to produce myself and you know, I have to

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<v Speaker 5>learn how to take a break. But really, like Saturday,

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<v Speaker 5>when the show is over, I chill. I usually go

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<v Speaker 5>to Rachel's house, like I'm on her patio all day. Sunday,

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<v Speaker 5>I start reading the papers and thinking about what's upcoming.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's unique trying to find you know, politics

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<v Speaker 5>and culture and authentic conversation and panelists. So I start

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<v Speaker 5>thinking through who'd be a great guest. I pull a

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<v Speaker 5>run together or run down together by Wednesday, So I

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<v Speaker 5>usually Wednesday and my start around five am. I'm up.

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<v Speaker 5>I read about eight papers before the sun comes up,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I spend the rest of the day like

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<v Speaker 5>this weekend, I know, I want to do something. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>voting rights and so, you know, trying to find the

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<v Speaker 5>unique perspective that wasn't covered to death, you know, so

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<v Speaker 5>like something everybody's gonna talk about, like the Brandan Center

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<v Speaker 5>for Justice and Policy. I'm wondering like what's more than

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<v Speaker 5>a vote? Laron James's organization, Like what we're all doing

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<v Speaker 5>now that? What's Michelle Obama? You know when we all vote,

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<v Speaker 5>what are you all doing now? So maybe have representatives

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<v Speaker 5>from those organizations on talk about through the lens, like

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<v Speaker 5>the celebrity squad voting engagement. What does that look like

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<v Speaker 5>during an off year? But we'll see it changes every day.

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<v Speaker 1>What what's your preferred uh outlet of information?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I knew you have to read everything to see what

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<v Speaker 2>they're seeing.

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<v Speaker 5>So I will start with the New York Times. I

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<v Speaker 5>always read the New York Times first, and then I

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<v Speaker 5>go to the Post, and then after that. It's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of a free for all, so I can read the Hill,

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<v Speaker 5>I can read the a jac the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

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<v Speaker 4>This is deep because you live in d C. And

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<v Speaker 4>you ain't mentioned the Post.

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<v Speaker 5>I did, I said, New York Times, then the Post.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I thought you meant the New York Post, but

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<v Speaker 4>you mean.

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<v Speaker 5>The Grio and the Route Michael Harriet at the Route

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<v Speaker 5>is amazing, is amazing the Atlantic. You know, I could

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<v Speaker 5>take a time to read a think piece in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>There's also a blog that I love it's called Angry

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<v Speaker 5>Asian Man, and it's pretty much like everything happening in

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<v Speaker 5>the Asian American Pacific Islander community. But it's like hip hop,

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<v Speaker 5>pop culture, politics, and he assembles all of this. I've

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<v Speaker 5>had him on the show before, so I like reading

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<v Speaker 5>his stuff. You know what's going on with to other

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<v Speaker 5>communities of color, Indian Country, to know what's happening with

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<v Speaker 5>Native Americans. Because I try to make sure all these

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<v Speaker 5>voices are represented on the show. I will never My

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<v Speaker 5>goal is to never do a show where the voices

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<v Speaker 5>of the rising majority are not reflected.

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<v Speaker 4>Like rising majority. That sounds so much better minority. I

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's actually I've removed minority from my lexicon. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>say it. By twenty forty four, we will be the

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<v Speaker 5>will be a minority majority minority country. So we are

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<v Speaker 5>the rising majority.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's like enslaved people, not slaves exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>And words matter so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Language, so much language, you guys, I want to.

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<v Speaker 5>Be in person, it would be so great, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And holiday? Can you do the drunk Holiday show with us?

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<v Speaker 10>Are?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm gonna be offended if I'm not invited to

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<v Speaker 5>do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to DC.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to d C, like John or maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>pandemic will be over.

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<v Speaker 2>Now wait if.

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<v Speaker 4>Mayor that's the question, Well when will Fonte come out

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<v Speaker 4>the house?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the question of summer twou it. Let's go Toda's house.

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<v Speaker 2>Come up, like you said, you know you do this

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<v Speaker 2>out on the old Man, I'll do. We'll be out.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be out back on the we do it on

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<v Speaker 2>the deck, the grill.

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<v Speaker 6>Even if I'm even if even if I'm vaccinated, even

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<v Speaker 6>if I'm facinated.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I mean if we're all vaccinated, then I

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<v Speaker 2>think we'll be cool.

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<v Speaker 8>But I'm just saying under regular COVID life, Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 8>know something out on the back, I throw some real we.

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<v Speaker 1>Can do has suits nice?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait tifth So if times are different, would d C

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<v Speaker 3>still be your home base for recording the show. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>only assuming that a majority of you do the DC

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<v Speaker 3>home based thing because of where we are now with

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<v Speaker 3>the pandemic. Because I used to see everyone at thirty

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<v Speaker 3>Rock in New York City doing their shows, and then.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's a studio here, so I have a I

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<v Speaker 5>don't shoot from home. I actually go into our studio here.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, this is I love DC, like I, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>my whole career, I've been between New York and DC,

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<v Speaker 5>but this has always been my home base. But I

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<v Speaker 5>used to spend you know, two weeks at it's out

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<v Speaker 5>of the month in New York. But no, thirty Rock

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<v Speaker 5>has enough studios, and because we're a political and culture field,

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<v Speaker 5>they and we built this brand new, huge studio. They

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<v Speaker 5>want to get used out of that space. But I

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<v Speaker 5>would think I would be in New York a lot more,

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<v Speaker 5>like if they want to be to fill in for

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<v Speaker 5>somebody or if it's a meeting, Like I still think

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<v Speaker 5>I would have come up there a lot more had

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<v Speaker 5>it not been for COVID. I used to complain all

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<v Speaker 5>the time about give them that a sella you know,

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<v Speaker 5>being at Penn State, and now I miss it. I

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<v Speaker 5>miss it a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of us used to fly from the West coast

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<v Speaker 4>to the East to do a podcast, and I dare

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<v Speaker 4>say I missed that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I can see that. I can see that. I

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<v Speaker 5>miss strangers. I miss sitting at a bar, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>next to people. I miss uh, running through airports, all

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<v Speaker 5>of it. I'm just ready for the world to open

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<v Speaker 5>up again.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, That's that's great. I don't miss any of those things. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing I mean the two week of the

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<v Speaker 3>most unsentimental motherfuckers I've ever met, Like, not the things

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<v Speaker 3>that I missed something or anything that you have to

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<v Speaker 3>miss with great.

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<v Speaker 8>No, I was gonna say so, the only thing I

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<v Speaker 8>miss is that I would like So my goal for

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<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty one, but I would consider a win is

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<v Speaker 8>if at the end of this year, if me and

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<v Speaker 8>my family can have Thanksgiving, like if we you know,

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<v Speaker 8>like maybe like five to ten of us, if we

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<v Speaker 8>can gather you know what I'm saying, if we all

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<v Speaker 8>vaccinate whatever, and we can actually be in the house

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<v Speaker 8>and just have a meal together. That's about all the

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<v Speaker 8>people I need. I'm with you right now. How can

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<v Speaker 8>I miss you and I'm sitting there with you hug

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<v Speaker 8>and well, well yeah, I mean yeah, we'll hug. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm totally cool with quests, brings, remaining mobile, this is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Ship is amazing.

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<v Speaker 8>Quarter the coda, I got a mic like the Quarter

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<v Speaker 8>except there and Patrick Swace and Patrick Sway.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, madam. That's all.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of which, why why did I watch uh Dirty

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<v Speaker 3>Dancing for the first time last night?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the first times, weird ship watty dancing, you're a

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<v Speaker 5>cat person.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much going on, dirty dances, like one of

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<v Speaker 1>them films.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like one of those classics where you felt you've

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<v Speaker 3>seen it, but I don't know if I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I believe that I've seen it elf in a

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<v Speaker 3>complete setting, but I don't remember every sing else. It's dirty,

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<v Speaker 3>but no yo, like I had thirty years later that

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that film is aged well because none

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<v Speaker 3>of them ships have aged well.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro, none of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Them trying to explain like they're they're like easy underground dancing,

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<v Speaker 3>like not one of them mentioned like we stole these

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<v Speaker 3>moves from Harlem, Like the music all the way up,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in the music there's like to say that

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's drum machines and like the songs.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wait, isn't this nineteen sixty three? Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the.

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<v Speaker 4>Want?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you was even a thing in.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it was nineteen sixty three and there were so

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<v Speaker 3>many rules broken in I'm like, how did America adopt.

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<v Speaker 2>This movie as there?

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<v Speaker 8>I think it was just the time. I think it

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<v Speaker 8>was just the It was a moment because so it

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<v Speaker 8>was dirty dancing. And then we had the other white

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<v Speaker 8>people America moment with.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lombardi you remember the early nineties.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 9>An array of white people dance movies that break all

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<v Speaker 9>the rules, all the rules of everything true, but of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Big t.

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<v Speaker 5>It wasn't a dancer. But watch that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying Jessica album it's wait.

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<v Speaker 1>The was off faul too.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, it was nobody was going to fucking Lombarda. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hispanic people were doing that ship. That was like

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<v Speaker 2>because it was that movie.

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<v Speaker 8>It was that movie called The Forbidden Dance Jeff Speakman

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<v Speaker 8>and like it was like the guy he was like

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<v Speaker 8>a fucking math teacher and like but he danced in

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<v Speaker 8>the club at night. And then the ship ended with

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<v Speaker 8>like this math competition. It was like dirty dance and

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<v Speaker 8>meet Standing Deliver meets.

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<v Speaker 2>La Bamba.

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<v Speaker 1>Lovada was the Forbidden Dance.

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<v Speaker 8>That was another that was another well, it was a

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<v Speaker 8>forbidden dance. That was the name of the movie. It

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<v Speaker 8>was called the Forbidden Dance. And that was the one

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<v Speaker 8>about like the math teacher that like the dance it was, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>it was there was that other lean on Me esque.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>The Principle, like the Principal where.

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<v Speaker 2>He talked them how to dance? How excited looking up?

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<v Speaker 2>I used to watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, he was he you don't remember, Like Guru

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<v Speaker 3>was a thug in one of these, like from the

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<v Speaker 3>Wrong Side of the Tracks, like one of them films

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<v Speaker 3>in which John Claud van Dam.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, oh teacher, that.

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme, that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that one in the universe.

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<v Speaker 8>These were all the movies that used to come on HBO,

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<v Speaker 8>like when I would come home and like just you know,

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<v Speaker 8>Latchki kids just waiting for to show up, and like

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<v Speaker 8>I would watch that and like the movie that I

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<v Speaker 8>will still watch no matter when it comes on.

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<v Speaker 2>I will watch The Top of the Bottom Roadhouse House.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched shank to but Road of the Mind always on,

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<v Speaker 2>Enemy Mind with Yes, it was always on. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a weird movie. I didn't watch. It was scary, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he was it was alien it was the thing was Tiffy.

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<v Speaker 2>What was your eighty eighties joints to come.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Yes, and they gotta get out Yeah tops all

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<v Speaker 4>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>First one, the first one, the second one was like

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<v Speaker 2>and then the third one was just like, okay, why.

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<v Speaker 4>Disney World Wonder World.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh Fante, Yeah, Guru's movie was called it was the

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<v Speaker 3>substitute to Schools Out.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the substitute. I never saw the sequel.

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<v Speaker 9>The guy from Terminator was in the substitute, wasn't he

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<v Speaker 9>the substitute the guy who played Terminator two?

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<v Speaker 2>Think of the same one.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is would treat Williams.

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<v Speaker 8>Williams Williams, Jeff Speakman, and that nigga Michael what was

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<v Speaker 8>his name?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 8>He was the other eighties dude. That was like on

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<v Speaker 8>HBO Thursday Night Prime, the Actually it was all it

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<v Speaker 8>was all the b rate niggas on the movies. You

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<v Speaker 8>sound like, wait a minute, has made a lot of movies.

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<v Speaker 5>Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a thing called train Ride three, a m urban massacre.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all sounding like winners.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a y p D blues stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have a showing when we go to Fante's backyard

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<v Speaker 3>slash slash Jesus Christ with anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Tiffany, you promise you come into house.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael. That was his name, Michael, Michael, Michael.

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<v Speaker 5>You're familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>What's on your show?

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<v Speaker 2>Tiffany?

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<v Speaker 4>Be honest, wait that name?

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<v Speaker 10>I know?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you forget you? That's a lot of names. Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yeah, oh god, wait, I gotta I see

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<v Speaker 2>this person.

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<v Speaker 10>Yo.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what Fante Michael Dodakov is the white ver

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<v Speaker 3>version of who's the black actor that somehow always finds

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<v Speaker 3>himself that having to wear drag?

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<v Speaker 1>And he was in Joanna Man.

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<v Speaker 8>Migueluel. Are the actors who I know their faces? Do

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<v Speaker 8>not know their names?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Yeah? Weird?

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<v Speaker 4>Can I just ask dam MSNBC question before we wrap? Yo?

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<v Speaker 6>Does does Ari Melber ever try to challenge your hip

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<v Speaker 6>hop prow like? How does is everything hip hop all

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<v Speaker 6>the time?

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<v Speaker 4>How does that?

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<v Speaker 5>Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Aute?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait wait, I just want to let our listeners know

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<v Speaker 3>that the way that was asking the question, she was

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<v Speaker 3>doing the uh the black woman hand thing where goes

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<v Speaker 3>back and forth back and do the hand thing. There's

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of startcasts.

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<v Speaker 4>Just I love Ari and Ari in this.

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<v Speaker 1>Hip hop part is very strong.

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<v Speaker 4>And you'll be like, god, damn everything at a verse.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm just curious if you have one time I

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<v Speaker 3>heard him and like my friend Bom Thugs always says.

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<v Speaker 2>Boom boom boom boom boom, what what does this have

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<v Speaker 2>to do with?

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<v Speaker 10>Way that was said out loud? He will always get

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<v Speaker 10>him pull some that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I swear to God like like even doing like the

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<v Speaker 3>the uh impeachments, like in you know, the Morning Words

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<v Speaker 3>of Flavor.

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<v Speaker 1>Flav Yeah, boy, like twice like I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, we get it.

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<v Speaker 4>He's gonna be mad had him here yet. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I feel his razed man.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll he'll come in in New York, trust me, he'll.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be more.

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<v Speaker 5>He has never he has never challenged my hip hop.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be preposterous. That would be like that would

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<v Speaker 5>be like Blant Devereux challenging beyond dancing, you know, like

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<v Speaker 5>it's that lovely metaphor.

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<v Speaker 2>I love with good white people metaphor. Yeah dope.

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<v Speaker 5>It's really a favorite art because I feel like if

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<v Speaker 5>you start, like, you know, a beef with a person

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<v Speaker 5>who's better known than you, then you know, so I'm

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<v Speaker 5>declaring beef with Ari.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah fired.

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<v Speaker 4>And the beef AT's house and Christmas.

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<v Speaker 5>Artists show too does all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets fatos like a constant Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, really, I haven't got my invite yet and

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in that building for twelve years.

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<v Speaker 5>You might not a mirror. If you do ri show

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<v Speaker 5>before you do my show, I will never talk to

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<v Speaker 5>you again. To you, I'm just thank you, thank you

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<v Speaker 5>to you. We gotta talk about Slide in the family Stone.

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<v Speaker 5>Whatever you want to talk about, you come on and

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<v Speaker 5>talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I will glad we come on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I was, y'all never said that. Y'all just broke

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<v Speaker 4>in the conversation about Slide.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's the second film I'm about to direct.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. And it was on the GRAM and I

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<v Speaker 5>saw it and I loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>And she don't follow me on the GRAM show I do.

1:17:32.479 --> 1:17:36.320
<v Speaker 4>But he posts a lot and he writes a lot, got.

1:17:36.160 --> 1:17:38.519
<v Speaker 2>A lot to say when he's you know, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 2>what you're watching on TV? Tiff? What what you want?

1:17:41.040 --> 1:17:41.720
<v Speaker 2>What you do to watch?

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<v Speaker 5>I tell you. So I'm rewatching My brother is a

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<v Speaker 5>truck driver, so he has to like pull over and

1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:50.880
<v Speaker 5>watch it. And he was like watching the Wire. He's like,

1:17:50.920 --> 1:17:53.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna watch Sopranos and I'm like, Negro, can you

1:17:53.840 --> 1:17:55.800
<v Speaker 5>watch some current ship so I can watch it with you?

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<v Speaker 5>So I am rewatching Atlanta with him watching it, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I might see one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>He does.

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<v Speaker 5>He loves it. He loves it, and I'm just experiencing

1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:09.439
<v Speaker 5>it again for the second time. Like Donald Lover like

1:18:09.520 --> 1:18:12.960
<v Speaker 5>gave us a lot of gems in this show, but he's.

1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:16.680
<v Speaker 4>He broke our heart with that job. He never coming back.

1:18:17.160 --> 1:18:20.639
<v Speaker 4>Them people gone the season three, but they chasing three.

1:18:21.240 --> 1:18:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Season four are going to be completed. We don't know

1:18:24.680 --> 1:18:29.800
<v Speaker 3>after that, but you know are yelling? Are they They're

1:18:29.880 --> 1:18:34.360
<v Speaker 3>they're committed? Okay, so what what's the okay? Because everyone

1:18:34.439 --> 1:18:38.599
<v Speaker 3>that gives the intelligent, like great answer of what they're watching.

1:18:38.880 --> 1:18:41.840
<v Speaker 3>But then I also noticed that there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>of of unsavory shows that we've fallen into. Admitted about

1:18:47.240 --> 1:18:52.360
<v Speaker 3>selling Sunset long ago, and I just recently fell into

1:18:52.479 --> 1:18:53.360
<v Speaker 3>in the evening Verse.

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<v Speaker 1>No, man, I fell into the worst show of I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even believe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm about the mid this on.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so curious what you're.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how damn is that with the preamble

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<v Speaker 3>just say it. I started watching The Oval.

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<v Speaker 4>Wat you gotta be real black?

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<v Speaker 9>Here's the thing, white people, what's the Oval?

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<v Speaker 2>Watching that sh scandal minus one hundred? It's okay, dancing,

1:19:32.800 --> 1:19:33.680
<v Speaker 2>moving on? What's there?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So Grace got on me, Grace got on me about

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<v Speaker 3>my constant slander sland duration of.

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<v Speaker 1>Of oft Perry are are are our savior? Mister Perry.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't just go tall with dog on them because

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<v Speaker 4>he'd be doing some good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, And she you know, and I don't know.

1:19:57.720 --> 1:20:00.479
<v Speaker 3>I'm running out of shows for lot of people that

1:20:00.680 --> 1:20:05.240
<v Speaker 3>have been super binging during quarantining, like you know, started

1:20:05.240 --> 1:20:07.240
<v Speaker 3>off intelligent, watching all the right and then like you

1:20:07.360 --> 1:20:09.280
<v Speaker 3>run out of options and now you're at the bottom.

1:20:09.800 --> 1:20:12.160
<v Speaker 3>So I was just like, all right, I'm I'm gonna

1:20:12.200 --> 1:20:15.680
<v Speaker 3>watch all these Tyler Perry shows. And I skipped the

1:20:15.680 --> 1:20:17.640
<v Speaker 3>comedies and just wanted to go to the dramas and

1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:21.519
<v Speaker 3>see what was up. And so I started watching What

1:20:21.920 --> 1:20:27.040
<v Speaker 3>Watch Sisters last year? And now I'm watching The Oval.

1:20:27.400 --> 1:20:28.640
<v Speaker 4>You watched good for you?

1:20:28.760 --> 1:20:29.000
<v Speaker 6>You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, you know, can you just like give

1:20:31.000 --> 1:20:33.040
<v Speaker 2>like a two second version of what the Oval is about?

1:20:33.160 --> 1:20:37.479
<v Speaker 3>The Oval is a re imagining of I mean, it's

1:20:37.560 --> 1:20:41.639
<v Speaker 3>kind of his version of Scandal. It's a white president

1:20:41.800 --> 1:20:47.000
<v Speaker 3>and his black wife. There are two biracial kids, a

1:20:47.240 --> 1:20:53.400
<v Speaker 3>black white house staff. But it's like drippeding eighties dynasty.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck Chris.

1:20:57.920 --> 1:21:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is, Bill.

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<v Speaker 4>You watch want No Piercer first Na, snow Piercer NA. No,

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<v Speaker 4>really good. I'm just okay because I'm.

1:21:13.360 --> 1:21:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Also watching Snowfall right now.

1:21:17.920 --> 1:21:21.760
<v Speaker 3>I like, Yes, I started Snowfall two weeks ago, so

1:21:22.240 --> 1:21:23.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm still there.

1:21:23.200 --> 1:21:30.120
<v Speaker 2>But good for you Oval God, Yeah it's I'm gonna

1:21:30.120 --> 1:21:32.479
<v Speaker 2>put it low on the list, don't. Yeah it's.

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<v Speaker 3>It's but it's one of those things where it's like,

1:21:34.840 --> 1:21:38.040
<v Speaker 3>you know it's bad, but you're still watching it.

1:21:39.320 --> 1:21:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's effective, and I.

1:21:42.200 --> 1:21:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Can't get out of that. I can't walk away from.

1:21:45.160 --> 1:21:47.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'd like to, but.

1:21:48.600 --> 1:21:51.840
<v Speaker 5>You know, I need a new series, and I'm not

1:21:52.080 --> 1:21:55.320
<v Speaker 5>so convinced on them.

1:21:56.760 --> 1:21:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Did not build a whole too?

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<v Speaker 10>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>There it was.

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<v Speaker 10>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that. Right now I'm stuck and watching

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<v Speaker 2>like really bad ship.

1:22:07.040 --> 1:22:10.800
<v Speaker 4>And you've always catch up with some good HBO shows,

1:22:10.800 --> 1:22:14.400
<v Speaker 4>the cable shows like I Made, Just Made.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched that Woody Allen Be a Pharaoh doc. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you watched that yet?

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<v Speaker 9>I watched the Yeah, motherfucker, it's a total rethink of

1:22:24.280 --> 1:22:25.519
<v Speaker 9>everything you think about that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Just do it?

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<v Speaker 5>Really?

1:22:28.840 --> 1:22:29.760
<v Speaker 4>I only thought he did it?

1:22:29.840 --> 1:22:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Is it gonna make me think you would figure my

1:22:31.720 --> 1:22:32.240
<v Speaker 2>judaism with.

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<v Speaker 9>I do not love Woody Allen, and I particularly do

1:22:35.680 --> 1:22:37.880
<v Speaker 9>not love him after watching his documentary go watch it?

1:22:37.960 --> 1:22:39.840
<v Speaker 4>How do you love Woody Allen? When we have Roan

1:22:39.880 --> 1:22:42.479
<v Speaker 4>ferroll on here and he even he was like, I mean,

1:22:42.520 --> 1:22:43.280
<v Speaker 4>you know, I said.

1:22:43.120 --> 1:22:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't love I'm like a Jew that doesn't like

1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:50.519
<v Speaker 2>sorry Jews, Like I'm not into it. I don't get it.

1:22:51.040 --> 1:22:54.479
<v Speaker 2>He's annoying. He's like, he's like a baby fucking Larry David.

1:22:54.560 --> 1:22:55.679
<v Speaker 2>Like I can't take it. I can't.

1:22:58.400 --> 1:22:59.400
<v Speaker 4>I love Darry David.

1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:04.799
<v Speaker 6>I love Oh my god, there's something a little sexy

1:23:04.840 --> 1:23:07.040
<v Speaker 6>about Larry if you keep oh my.

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<v Speaker 9>God, wait, tell me why Larry David is attractive, Tiffany, Go,

1:23:15.720 --> 1:23:16.519
<v Speaker 9>you have ten seconds.

1:23:16.560 --> 1:23:20.960
<v Speaker 5>Go because funny, because because he's honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, your turn.

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<v Speaker 9>That was lame.

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<v Speaker 2>Your turn.

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<v Speaker 6>Because he's honest, he's awkward, he's funny, and he's still tall.

1:23:32.920 --> 1:23:33.439
<v Speaker 2>So he's me.

1:23:35.240 --> 1:23:37.719
<v Speaker 4>Actually yeah, actually perfect.

1:23:38.160 --> 1:23:40.879
<v Speaker 10>I just wanted to know what I thought I knew'body,

1:23:42.560 --> 1:23:43.400
<v Speaker 10>You're not awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the first time I've ever heard that in

1:23:45.479 --> 1:23:45.840
<v Speaker 2>my life.

1:23:46.560 --> 1:23:50.639
<v Speaker 3>All Right, Tiffany, we I feel like you, you actually

1:23:50.760 --> 1:23:52.800
<v Speaker 3>might be stuck with us. In the beginning, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be funny. At a seventh person to the show, im.

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<v Speaker 5>Volunteer, as I thought, this was my audition with the

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<v Speaker 5>PR people, and an audition we start, we start with like.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe once once a month, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>schedule too much.

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<v Speaker 9>I feel like it's good to have someone on the

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<v Speaker 9>show who actually knows what they're talking about, and I

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<v Speaker 9>feel like Tiffany might be that person.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, Okay, we're not asking you to marry us,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're definitely going to court you a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>on this process in and got a ring.

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<v Speaker 4>I will wear it, all right.

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<v Speaker 10>You heard it.

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<v Speaker 3>You heard it, ladies and gentlemen. We just might and

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<v Speaker 3>Tiffany cross into the circle of Q. Sean will not

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<v Speaker 3>be happy about this.

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<v Speaker 4>That's gonna that's gonna cost you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, it's cost me, now, trust me, nobody else.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody tell Tiffany. People usually start on this show for free.

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<v Speaker 9>Bill tell us, Yeah, Tiffany, I used to be called

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<v Speaker 9>unpaid Bill, because well, you can you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Differ from what.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not cool Bill.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I had to.

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<v Speaker 9>I had to get my lawyers on it now here

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<v Speaker 9>I am, you know, four hundred later, it's all happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It is happening. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it Tony's Grammys and me's bucket.

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<v Speaker 3>Bucket, I got this money, this request love money a man.

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<v Speaker 3>This is how you're going to get your You got

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<v Speaker 3>your your, what you got left left for you?

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<v Speaker 2>You got to get Oscar, I don't this year. I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 8>You got your get Yeah, and you guys, this is

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<v Speaker 8>your because this is what what you got coming, because

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<v Speaker 8>what's nice is coming with me an Oscar, Let's let's

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<v Speaker 8>see what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>Says that I got a homie that says that, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, I need to catch up.

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't watched some season two of Euphoria yet. Is

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<v Speaker 5>anybody watching?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I gotta finish season one. I gotta finish season one.

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<v Speaker 1>But you haven't watched it at all? Front I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the season what not the season?

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<v Speaker 8>I watched the episode, Uh, just kind of the bottle

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<v Speaker 8>episode with her and old boy just at the at

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<v Speaker 8>the at the diner.

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<v Speaker 2>They just want that little thing that they got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta watch the show first, and then I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go back to finish one.

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<v Speaker 3>That that that showed to me perfectly explained, like epigenetics

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<v Speaker 3>and how that affects. Okay, so I mean it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a spoiler, it's not a spoiler alert, but epigenetics. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like how you inherit you scientifically can inherit things from

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<v Speaker 3>your things from your parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was born. She was born on nine to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven in two thousand and one.

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<v Speaker 3>And because they had the television on for four days

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<v Speaker 3>in a row, it's very much possible that those four

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<v Speaker 3>days of constantly ingesting that bad news and that that

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<v Speaker 3>that terror turned her into the person that the problem

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<v Speaker 3>person that she is an addict now yea, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it explains it. I how you recommend you know what

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<v Speaker 3>else Tiffany on the show because she can wrap up

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<v Speaker 3>a mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>See, it was like Rodley and Trauma. We got it,

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<v Speaker 2>we got it, thank you, said Tiffany. Will you please

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<v Speaker 2>take us, ladies. This is another episode of course of

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme on behaf of Light.

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<v Speaker 3>Unpaid Bill. Wait, Bill, you had another title. I forgot

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<v Speaker 3>what we called you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Fela Kutstein. That was that was Ktstein.

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<v Speaker 4>Our bill used to be in a West African band.

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot about the people don't know and in

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<v Speaker 1>step up is Jamaica.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and our future member Tiffany Cross, thank you very

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<v Speaker 2>much for doing our show.

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<v Speaker 5>This awesome cross connection.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we totally to like that.

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<v Speaker 10>I like it.

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<v Speaker 5>Tell everybody to tune into my show. Yes, yes, at

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<v Speaker 5>Saturday mornings ten am Eastern Standard time. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 5>what you're talking about, and we do it for the culture.

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<v Speaker 5>So tune in MSNBC ten am. Yes, exactly. Oh and

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<v Speaker 5>the book Say It Louder, Black Voters, White Narratives and

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<v Speaker 5>Saving Our Democracy is available everywhere books are sold. And

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<v Speaker 5>if you'd like something that I did, there's an audio

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<v Speaker 5>version that I read myself. And if you do watch

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<v Speaker 5>the show and like what I say, hit me and

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<v Speaker 5>let me know tweet. You can follow me on all

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<v Speaker 5>my platforms at Tiffany D.

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<v Speaker 2>Cross and send you something nice because she gets enough bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>She reads it all. Don't read anymore the negative stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Well it's not overwhelmed because I'm not, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't have like millions of people follow me, so

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<v Speaker 5>it's not overwhelming. You know, it's like one hundred email

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<v Speaker 5>and like they're all like, oh, we like your show

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<v Speaker 5>and then three are like, you suck and your voice

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<v Speaker 5>sucks and your show sucks, and I'm like, people don't

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<v Speaker 5>like me. You guys, the loudest voices stand out. So yeah, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 5>thank you. I love you guys. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>This has been may in my night. I feel this

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<v Speaker 5>is what I would have been doing anyway, just by myself.

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<v Speaker 5>Do one other thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Tell Rachel, Rachel, we said, what's up? And if you

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<v Speaker 6>want to catch up, we have Caribbean.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what can I bring and when I come back,

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<v Speaker 5>can I bring her back? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, all right, I'm bringing her.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm married you officially in now you heard that? All right,

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<v Speaker 3>you show. Thank you very much for listening to Quest

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