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Speaker 3: All the way down to my core. I do not

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Speaker 3: believe that the NFL is sitting down trying to figure

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Speaker 3: out how to give the Kansas City Chiefs an advantage

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Speaker 3: over your favorite team. But I also believe that the metrics,

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Speaker 3: the eyeballs, all of these things, along with some actions

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Speaker 3: this comes from her she Rice. His hearing will be

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Speaker 3: on the thirtieth. It is likely at this point he

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Speaker 3: will play at least the first four games because of

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Speaker 3: the timing of his hearing and the suspension that he

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Speaker 3: will be facing for his accident and issue. But remember

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Speaker 3: he played guilty the same day that Jordan Addison did.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Addison is already facing his three games suspension, which

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Speaker 3: has everybody from fans to pro football talk saying this

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Speaker 3: looks suspicious and it just feeds a conspiracy theory conversation

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Speaker 3: about whether or not the league is biased towards the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Now you said earlier, I spent too much time on

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Speaker 3: social media. I will at least point out I'm a

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Speaker 3: Raiders fan all the way to my core. Everybody knows that, right,

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Speaker 3: you can't grow up a Raiders fan without just hearing

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Speaker 3: institutionally the league has it out for Vegas. I do

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Speaker 3: not believe, and I say this all the time. A

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Speaker 3: Raiders fans hate it. I don't believe the league has

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Speaker 3: it out for the Raiders. They don't need to have

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Speaker 3: it out for the Raiders. Like teams that suck just suck,

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Speaker 3: like the league doesn't have to help the team suck.

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Speaker 3: It's just the fact is the Raiders are cash grab

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Speaker 3: NFL actually likes it better when the Raiders are good. Now,

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Speaker 3: for years I heard well officials have it out for

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Speaker 3: we worked together at ESPN. I got my job at ESPN,

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Speaker 3: I'm working with them all the time. I saw them

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Speaker 3: on the morning show, pulled them aside on the halls,

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Speaker 3: and I said, Jack, do you believe that the officials

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Speaker 3: have it out for the Raiders? And he said no.

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Speaker 3: What I do know is that officials are assigned to

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Speaker 3: the matchups based on the quality of the matchup and

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Speaker 3: Happens all the time, So I believe what happens is

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Speaker 3: that there's a bias, when in fact it's just get

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Speaker 3: you get worse refs that just happens. We don't think

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Speaker 3: of that sort of context any of this conversation. Richie's

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Speaker 3: but not until he goes through this hearing. Well, according

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Speaker 3: to some reports, the hearing is happening because the NFL

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Speaker 3: already suggested a penalty and the Chiefs and the player

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Speaker 3: Like we don't know that that happened with Jordan Addison.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I don't buy into any of these series,

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Speaker 3: Like guess what nobody has to give the Chiefs an advantage.

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Speaker 3: They're really stinking good. They win games well.

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Speaker 4: And the other part of this is like, are you

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Speaker 4: advantage of whatever tools are at their disposal. It's kind

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Speaker 4: of like when we have off season discussions fitsie each

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Speaker 5: God knows.

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Speaker 4: We try to become capologists every free agency period. But

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Speaker 4: in time. Places like SPA Track and over the Cap

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Speaker 5: But of course we don't have every level of detail.

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Speaker 4: On what it is to maneuver the cap, all the

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Speaker 4: different loopholes that exist for lack of a better term,

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Speaker 4: or things like void years that I didn't know existed

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Speaker 4: There's all manner of things that teams have at their disposal,

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Speaker 4: in the fine details of the NFL's the NFL's governing body,

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Speaker 4: that would allow you to take advantage of things like this.

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Speaker 4: And if the Chiefs are doing it better than the

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Speaker 4: Vikings don't necessarily have, Yes, the optics of it externally

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Speaker 4: looks suspicious. But again, in all of these conversations context matters,

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Speaker 4: we cannot possibly have the full extent of information because

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Speaker 4: and send out a tweet about the league's conspiring against

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Speaker 4: every other team that's not named the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 4: that's frankly the lazier version of it. It takes more time, effort,

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Speaker 4: different reasons why this would become a thing, rather than

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Speaker 4: assuming the lowest common denominator, which is the league is

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Speaker 3: I years ago was having a conversation with Jim Dapolis,

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Speaker 3: And I walked away from that thinking so much about

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Speaker 3: that well, that official is obviously biased for Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: And then it doesn't get easier when you see the

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Speaker 3: rev asking Joe Burrow where you know where he got

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Speaker 5: God forbid.

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Speaker 4: They have human conversations like each and every one of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we just presumed that suddenly that official

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Speaker 3: Like that official is going to be graded based on

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Speaker 3: his performance in that game, which is going to impact

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Speaker 3: whether or not he gets playoff games, which impacts whether

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Speaker 3: if I could just you know, maybe all of the

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Speaker 3: would do that. That's why I shouldn't be an official,

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Speaker 3: right Like I would, I'd walk out in there and

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Speaker 3: I'd rip my official jersey off, and underneath it would

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Speaker 3: I'm not a professional, right, Like, officials work so hard

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Speaker 3: every single time we see this frame by frame, like

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Speaker 3: God forbids, somebody missed one call. Then all of a

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Speaker 4: There's too much money involved to think that the league

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Speaker 4: gambling dollars are all over the place.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: That's that, and that's a conversation that we can have,

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Speaker 5: But no, I'm not buying any of it.

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Speaker 4: I I get so fed up with the level of

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Speaker 4: discourse around these things that I, Fitzy, it's probably a

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Speaker 4: the objectivity or perceived lack thereof, that the NFL has

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Speaker 4: and how much you know, how much they're all over

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Speaker 4: the place, and how much success they've had, and all

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Speaker 4: the different things that success breeds that I just shut

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Speaker 4: out so much of this stuff. I'm so happy to

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't. I know it's not true, Like

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Speaker 4: I know it's not true, Fitzy. Every year, when when

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Speaker 4: you cover a team as a beat reporter the way

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Speaker 4: when the when the teams bring officials into officiate training

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Speaker 3: August buck. Let me let me ask you this. Aliens.

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Speaker 3: I'm not much of it. I'm not a conspiracy theorist

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Speaker 4: They have to, right, I mean, what what is the oh,

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Speaker 5: We can't possibly be the only things out here.

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Speaker 5: Surely not. If so, the universe is doomed.

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Speaker 3: But are they among us?

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Speaker 7: Well yeah, look at the ocean, Look at octopus. Look

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Speaker 3: Well, like, that's not as much fun if it's an

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Speaker 5: Well, and do the do the OCTOPI I believe in

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Speaker 4: They find us to be unintelligent because they are trying

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Speaker 3: And do we keep eating them and deep frying them? Well,

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Speaker 5: Send them to my homeland. Don't put that all. Get

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Speaker 3: And here we are well.

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Speaker 4: And also FITSI the hubris of you, the entitlement of

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Speaker 5: The one gentrifying there the other way around, all right.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, alien does not connote superpower. Like what

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you're powerful enough to get to

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Speaker 3: So now you're telling me that like aliens just sort

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Speaker 5: Purpose of advancement. Would you say that you're here for bud.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, I'm but I'm not an alien,

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Speaker 3: right like the aliens coming here would be the strong

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Speaker 3: disagree m that. Look, I just just I might be

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Speaker 5: Botox does not mean you're a vampire.

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Speaker 3: Oh, only one of us has had botox? Are you

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Speaker 3: related to Jonas? Uh? The the look buck out here

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Speaker 5: How uh? Thirty two? A couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: Every three months, baby, Wow two.

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Speaker 3: Do aliens get botox? Or do aliens do the botox?

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Speaker 3: I see this is where this is where people driving

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Speaker 5: I think the botox is the alien life form.

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Speaker 4: Uh nothing, nothing, nothing derived from humanity can can hold

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Speaker 3: I'll let the aliens figure it out. We'll figure out gambling.

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Speaker 3: He's buck rising up, Jason fitzbucking well. I mean we'll

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 4: Don't don't give him, don't give him the golf clap

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Speaker 3: Wow, this is this is We're barely an hour a

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Speaker 3: snippy on a Friday morning? What you mean?

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Speaker 4: I've just I've just started to wake wake up after

440
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 4: an hour and a half of radio. Now now I

441
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 4: can get to you know, Now I can be me

442
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 4: a little bit and you go, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

443
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. An hour and a half in. Now,

444
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 4: now I'm really feeling it now, so I'm now, I'm awake.

445
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 4: Now I'm I'm ready to rock. Now I can gain

446
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 4: more of me instead instead of this you know, sleepy

447
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 4: dope that just rolled out of bed.

448
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 5: You know you screaming about Shador's sanders at me.

449
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So to recap, you said your words were not

450
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 3: slurred in the first hour because you went out. You

451
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 3: said that you went to Magic City Wings or Magic

452
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 3: City for the Wings and only the Wings that you

453
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 3: stayed in last night. And now suddenly it's seven thirty

454
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 3: Eastern time. Now you're feeling froggy. Now you're feeling awake

455
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 3: and glorious. But there was no reason that you were

456
00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: tired when the show started.

457
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Speaker 5: There in a hanging.

458
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 4: Listen, I have had six damn days here in Atlanta

459
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: to go get my strip club wings, and I have

460
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 4: taken full advantage at this point in time. No, I

461
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 4: I waddled downstairs to the God help the people that

462
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 4: are that are also staying in this hotel that I've

463
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 4: just been screaming into a microphone in my room. For

464
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 4: for the last five or five or six days straight

465
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 4: having to hear Shador Sanders rants and conspiracy theories about

466
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Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs.

467
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 6: No.

468
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 4: I waddled downstairs to the to the common area. I

469
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 4: got my cup of coffee in a banana. I've my

470
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 4: headache that I woke up with has dissuaded. And not

471
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 4: because I'm hungover because of the strip club wings, but

472
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 4: because for some reason, Fincy, I just wake up with

473
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 4: a with a not a hangover with with a headache anymore.

474
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 5: I don't know what to do about that.

475
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 4: Perhaps I should be taking advantage of the fine people

476
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: at Mattress Firm that way.

477
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 3: Maybe you should, you know, instead of uber eats stripper wings,

478
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 3: maybe you eat your way, maybe be your way over

479
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 3: to a gym and just work that out, buddy, and

480
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 3: then you'll feel better. You'll sweat it out. Just got

481
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: a lot of I'm dripping with judgment and the look

482
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: I'm getting from book rising.

483
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 4: Right now, I don't want to hear you dripping with anything.

484
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 4: Oh God, whatever the hell is holding up your alien

485
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 4: life form hair.

486
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 3: It's perfect already, you know, just wakes up this way.

487
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: Now you get to see it, Okay.

488
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 5: So look like you got electrocuted. Maybe wakes up this way.

489
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is what happens. Look, you come at me, buddy,

490
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: Come at me, see me when you're almost fifty, and

491
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: we'll figure out if your hair looks this good, buddy.

492
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 3: Let let we'll just we'll figure that out.

493
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 4: I will have taken three trips to Turkey to make

494
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 4: sure my hair looks that good.

495
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 5: By then that is that is fus.

496
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, just you're gonna start saving up for that trip.

497
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: Now that's that's the way it's done. I'll use my

498
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: gambling winnings to get there. And gambling has me thinking

499
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 3: about Michael Porter Junior, who I'm I'm a little man.

500
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: I'm a little shooketh that Michael Porter Junior, who I

501
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 3: love the fact that he just says what is on

502
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: his mind when he's on his mind. But he was

503
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 3: on one night with Steiny the podcast and he talked

504
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: about sports gambling with his friends, and look, it's pretty

505
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: staggering when he starts talking about the advantage that it

506
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 3: can create when you can just look at your buddies

507
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: and say, hey, you know what, maybe play the under tonight.

508
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: And then you get injured and like your one buddy

509
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 3: can make ten grand, and another buddy can make ten

510
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: Brandon grand, and he's talking about this buck, and I

511
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: just I'm stunned because I cannot believe that a player

512
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 3: in the league doesn't understand the systems that are in

513
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: place to catch that exact thing, like if any sports

514
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: but there's a national register that looks at all bets

515
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: that are placed if any sports books. He's an unusual

516
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: amount of activity being placed on the under of Michael

517
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: Porter Junior for you know, ten thousand dollars and there's

518
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 3: five or six bets on it, and they see it.

519
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 3: There isn't a chance in hell that doesn't get flagged.

520
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 3: Like these are the moments that I keep looking at

521
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 3: everybody saying, hey, the gambling issue when it comes to players.

522
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: The fact that we're getting people flagged all the time

523
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: shows you that the guardrails are actually working.

524
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 4: Let me let me hear the full or the audio context.

525
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 4: If I could lay from the One Night with Steiny podcast.

526
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 8: You get mad at these dudes like they do the

527
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 8: sports betting, but think about it, if you could get

528
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 8: all your homies rich by telling him, Yo, ten thousand

529
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 8: dollars on my under, you know, this one game, I'm

530
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 8: gonna act like I got an injury and I'm I'm

531
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 8: gonna sit out. I'm gonna come out after three minutes

532
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 8: and they all get a little bad because you did

533
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 8: it one game like that is so not okay. But

534
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 8: some people probably think like that. They come from nothing

535
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 8: and all their homies have nothing, and they're like, Bro,

536
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 8: if I if I come out of this game after

537
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 8: three minutes and y'all all hit on my under we're

538
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,479
Speaker 8: all getting a little bad, you know what I mean.

539
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 8: And I obviously my brother went through his situation. You know,

540
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 8: Malik Beasley's going through a situation right now. Terry Rozier

541
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 8: was in some hot water. But the whole sports gambling

542
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 8: like entity, Bro, it's it's it's bad, and it's it's

543
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 8: only gonna get worse. Bro, Like we we really do

544
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 8: get death threats, so that is courtesy.

545
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: That's Michael Porter Junior on the One Night with Steiny

546
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: podcasts discussing and he talked about a variety of different subjects.

547
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 4: This is a pretty pretty interesting listen if you haven't

548
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 4: caught the full podcast yet. He also talked about like

549
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: dating in NBA circles and the impact of gambling on that,

550
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: but is is larger point about the betting impact going

551
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: to get worse, and you know how much of this

552
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: has detracted from the integrity of the game or the

553
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 4: enjoyment of the game, specifically on the professional athletes sides

554
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: Like I, I don't disagree with him, especially when you're

555
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 4: you've got so many these these gambling entities that are

556
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 4: promoting themselves on college campuses and things like that, and

557
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 4: they're there are the instances are few and far between,

558
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 4: like the guardrails to your point, and I believe you

559
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 4: mentioned this earlier, or if not, you've you've mentioned off

560
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 4: air or in previous shows that we've done together, that

561
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: the system is working to make sure that we catch

562
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 4: these things and there are very few and far between

563
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 4: instances that these things are actually happening. So it's just

564
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 4: are you Are you smart enough to avoid the temptation

565
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 4: of what of what Michael Porter Junior has just described there,

566
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: Even though yeah, it sounds all pretty routine, it could

567
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 4: cost you what ten grand you could make for you

568
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 4: and your buddies if you're faking an injury and hitting

569
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 4: you're under, or betting you're under and faking an injury

570
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: and then making sure that that under hits you cost

571
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: yourself so much more in the long term as far

572
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: as earnings. How could you possibly rationalize it that way?

573
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 5: Like, I get that, and.

574
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: Ten thousand dollars is not an amount of money to

575
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: turn your nose up at, even if you're a professional athlete.

576
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 4: But like that logic to me what he's describing it,

577
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 4: it simply does not make sense, especially when you talk

578
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 4: about the NBA and the amount of money that even

579
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: fringe like you know, seventh or eighth guys off the

580
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: bench are making relative to ten thousand dollars, that's a

581
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 4: drop in the bucket.

582
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 5: That's couch that's couch cushion change.

583
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the the hard part about this is again,

584
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 3: there are national systems.

585
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 5: You know.

586
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: It's funny. I like to watch old Law and Order

587
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: and you know, the like the early nineties.

588
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 5: Original law were making new law and orders.

589
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, they still make law order. Yeah yeah, you can't

590
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: stick Yeah, no, of course it's not peacock like I

591
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: haven't gotten I listened to Law and Order. I literally

592
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: listened to Law and Order every day while I'm in

593
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: the gym. That's it. I don't like rage music when

594
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: I work out, and so I just like to go

595
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 3: into like a weird spot where like I don't think,

596
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: and I've watched every episode of the old Law and Order,

597
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 3: so I just started season one earlier this year. I'm

598
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: up to like season seven now. So yeah, there's new

599
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: new seasons. But the funny thing is I literally saw

600
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: an episode from I think season four or five where

601
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: one of the new cops was having to teach everybody

602
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: how to use email and the internet because they didn't

603
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 3: even realize that existed. And part of what they're starting

604
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: to do in these old season and say, hey, we

605
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: can cross reference to this person and see if they're

606
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: wanted in another state, because that didn't really exist in

607
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: an easy way in the early nineties. If you're you know,

608
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: if you're a junkie for true crime and serial killers,

609
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: you'll see that. Back in the seventies and eighties, like

610
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: they would be all over the place, and because there

611
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: wasn't an easy way for anybody to communicate from Washington

612
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: to Florida, it became really hard to catch people like

613
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: Ted Bundy. Like that's because technology didn't exist the way

614
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: that it exists today. Well, now technology is such that

615
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: gambling is the databases that exists for regulation exists nationally.

616
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: So even if you've got one body over here in

617
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: Maine and one body over here in Wisconsin and you're

618
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: telling them to put that ten thousand dollars out, it

619
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: is going to cause a flag. And this is where

620
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: I come back to, you know, my childhood. I grew

621
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: up in Las Vegas as a kid, and my parents

622
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: were both casino managers. And you know, I remember when

623
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: we left Vegas, everybody would always ask my parents, like

624
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: we'd be sitting around with you know, friends and friends, family,

625
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: and it was always all man, you know, casinos they cheat,

626
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: don't they. Now this is you know, post mob era

627
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: or the mob are a very different post mob ere

628
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: And I so distinctly remember my mom, who's always been

629
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: blunting in communication, saying, no, casinos don't have to cheat

630
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: because people are stupid. And the whole point that she

631
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: constantly made is that regulations exist where everything is tracked,

632
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: and you can't cheat in a casino even if you

633
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: want to, because it's not worth the risk. Casinos are

634
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: so wildly regulated, just like sports gambling is all you

635
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: gotta do is rely on people to lose self control

636
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: and so when the advantage always goes to the house,

637
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: eventually people will make a bet they shouldn't make, and

638
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 3: the house always wins. There's a reason those big fancy

639
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: casinos exist in Vegas. The house always wins. Like DraftKings

640
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: isn't here taking bets because most people get the best

641
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: of DraftKings. They're taking bets because they're making money hand

642
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: over fist. So all of these companies are making money

643
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 3: because most people are out there just playing parlay after

644
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: parlay after parlay, and they show you the one ticket

645
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: that won, but they don't show you the one hundred

646
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 3: tickets that lost over the course of the year.

647
00:30:59,160 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 5: Right.

648
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: That's that's the way this whole gambling thing works. So

649
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: for athletes that are sitting here saying, oh, I'm gonna

650
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 3: go make ten grand for my friend because I have

651
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: insider information, at what risk, at what costs? Because the

652
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: regulations will find you and they have found them. Like

653
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: the reason that two Cleveland Guardians pitchers are under investigation

654
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: is because you can't do these things without people figuring

655
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 3: out quickly, especially if there's any real money. So if

656
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Speaker 3: you're placing any actual dollars on any of this, it's

657
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Speaker 3: simply going to flag somebody, and if you're not placing

658
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Speaker 3: any actual dollars on it, then it's not worth the risks.

659
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Speaker 3: So I just think that we're turning something that's actually

660
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Speaker 3: being positively regulated into some sort of a massive chaos,

661
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: like massive crisis that I just don't think exists.

662
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Speaker 4: You know what I think is more detrimental to athletes

663
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 4: than the gambling environment right now, go on podcast appearances,

664
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Speaker 4: listen as people who's speaking to microphones for a living.

665
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Speaker 4: I acknowledge that we are guilty of oversharing, but like

666
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Speaker 4: some of these, some of these conversations that are being

667
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Speaker 4: had by athletes where where you would never never in

668
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Speaker 4: a million world, in a million years, FITZI. You know,

669
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Speaker 4: I do postgame locker room stuff all the time. As

670
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Speaker 4: a beat reporter. I cover a team on a day

671
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Speaker 4: to day basis. I'm in the locker room probably four

672
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Speaker 4: days a week. In press conference settings like these things

673
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 4: would never be said in front of media that way.

674
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Speaker 4: And yet you know, an athlete gets in a podcast

675
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Speaker 4: setting in a situation where they're probably surrounded by people

676
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 4: that they trust far more than you know, the media

677
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: vultures like myself, and things like that, and they overshare

678
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: or share some of the most bird brain stuff you've

679
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Speaker 4: ever heard. I think, I think that the podcast appearances

680
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Speaker 4: and how many people have these different platforms that will

681
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: get aggregated like this far more detrimental to the to

682
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: the to the well being of these of these athletes

683
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: than anything else, because you, even if you believe some

684
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 4: of this stuff, or even if you are feeling this

685
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: type of way, like there is there is something to

686
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Speaker 4: the oversharing of it that will that will allow your

687
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Speaker 4: words to be twisted or or give your words more

688
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: meaning than you actually intended them to have, because your

689
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: words do matter, and now they're being documented and literally

690
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 4: every platform. And I'm not against people having podcasts, like

691
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Speaker 4: I like hearing more transparency from athletes. I like I

692
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 4: like getting a better look at how they actually feel,

693
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: because God knows, they're not willing to share it with

694
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Speaker 4: a lot of us who are asking them these questions

695
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Speaker 4: on a day to day basis. And and you know,

696
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 4: most of it well intentioned. Some some people are out

697
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: to get you for for clickbait and otherwise, but just

698
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Speaker 4: I find it so funny that athletes are so guarded

699
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 4: in certain settings and then you know they sit down

700
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Speaker 4: on a on a couch with a couple of sure mics,

701
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Speaker 4: and and all of a sudden, it's it's everything's fair

702
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: game and no rules apply, and logic and reason don't

703
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 4: actually matter here.

704
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: You forget where you are sometimes. The very first digital

705
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: livestream show that I did at ESPN at the time

706
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: with Mina Kimes, like, there was a bunch of us

707
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: for the NFL and we were live and we were

708
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 3: not on any sort of a delay because we're all pros.

709
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 3: We've all done TV and radio and there's no big deal.

710
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: Thirty seconds in, Mina drops an F bomb because and

711
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: she immediately says, she's like, I'm so sorry, but like

712
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: we were all sitting on the couch just shoot, like

713
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: it felt like the night before when we were sitting

714
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: on you know, Michael of Junior scouch having the same conversations.

715
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: This time there were just microphones and you forget, And

716
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: that is that is absolutely part of this. Like you

717
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 3: get comfortable, and when you're comfortable, you say something maybe

718
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: maybe you shouldn't. One thing that I'm certain of is

719
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 3: when you get comfortable, it's always good time to eat

720
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Speaker 3: some free hamburgers. Free hamburgers have taken Baseball black stom.

721
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Speaker 3: We'll tell you about it next. Yeah, yeah, what what?

722
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Speaker 3: What are you looking at me like?

723
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Speaker 5: Not playing America's favorite game show?

724
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Speaker 3: Are we doing that?

725
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 5: Next? Oh? We could do?

726
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: Would you rather next?

727
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Speaker 5: I didn't you want to?

728
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Speaker 3: You never responded to the group text this morning asking

729
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: about it. I don't know what this? Would you rather?

730
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 3: The best game show in the history of sports talk

731
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: radio is next? Unless I kill Buck Rising, We'll do

732
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: it Fucking Fits on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.

733
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

734
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

735
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

736
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Speaker 3: He's Buck Rising on Jason Fitz Bucking Fits takeover. Don't

737
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: forget with the iHeart Radio app. You can stream us

738
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: wherever you happen to be. Who doesn't love that? Catch

739
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: us in all our Fox Sports Radio shows live twenty

740
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 3: four to seven in the new and improved iHeartRadio app.

741
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio in the app. Stream us

742
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: live all day, every day, and be sure to select

743
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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets in the

744
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: iHeart app so it will always pop up on the

745
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: top of your screen presets in an app kind of

746
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: like radio. What's old is New again? In society? Got like,

747
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: I just want one service that bundles everything together. And

748
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: what do you know? That's called cable? Okay, it is

749
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 3: time for the single greatest grant game show in the

750
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: history of sports talk radio. Right to get out of Look, look,

751
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 3: this is this is gonna be. Our relationship is hanging

752
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: on by a thread. Here are you ready for this book?

753
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: It is time for wo you.

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Speaker 6: Rather?

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00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: It's easy? Guys, don't think too hard on Would you

756
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 3: rather bucket, touch or fix it? All right, Producer Lee's

757
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: gonna come in, give us a question. We'll figure out

758
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 3: would we rather Lee?

759
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 5: What do you go for us?

760
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 3: Guys?

761
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 7: Would you rather have your name forever misspelled on your

762
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame plaque or be remembered only for your

763
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 7: blooper real?

764
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 3: Remember those old NFL folly films?

765
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 5: Brother, I covered Will Levis for a season.

766
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 4: All I know is is miscues and gaffs and memes

767
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: from a from a whole NFL season.

768
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Speaker 5: Man, that's a.

769
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Speaker 4: I would probably rather have my name misspelled, like I

770
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 4: could get over that. People are gonna misspell my name anyway,

771
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 4: and honestly, they'd probably pronounce it correctly more often if

772
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Speaker 4: it was misspelled, because rising is spelled r E I

773
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Speaker 4: s I n G, And more often than not, I

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Speaker 4: hear people call it.

775
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 5: Recing or reestling, like the lines I might do that.

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Speaker 5: It's okay, there's nothing wrong with it. I get it.

777
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 5: It's human error.

778
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: So maybe the mispronunciation would act or the misspelling would

779
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 4: actually lead to better pronunciation.

780
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: You know, you could just change the way your last

781
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: name is spelled for purposes and being on air would

782
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: make life easier. Oh, my last name is only fits

783
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: f i Tz. That's it. It's not Fitzgerald, fitz him as,

784
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 3: not any of those things. It's only Fits. The amount

785
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: of mail I get for Jason Fritz Frigz always makes

786
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: me laugh, But like that feels fitting to me. It

787
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: feels appropriate that you would have a hall of fame.

788
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 3: But if I ever had a hall of fame, black

789
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: for anything, my name should be misspelled. I'll go with

790
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 3: the miss spelling.

791
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 5: Buckling and Jason Fritz.

792
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 3: I think you should be only fits fans man feet

793
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Speaker 3: mixed coming at.

794
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Speaker 5: So would it be fetould? I think I could be

795
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Speaker 5: a hand model.

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Speaker 3: Look.

797
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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: I Like, every time I hear somebody talk about what

799
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: OnlyFans the models make on their feet, I look down

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00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: at mine. I'm like, yeah, fitz feet Maybe that's what

801
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: like FITZI feet feet by fits, I don't know, Like

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm work shopping this fits. I mean, I'm work

803
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: shopping this. But let's just, you know, let's just see

804
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: if things get My toes are going out on only

805
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: fans go ahead, but only feet, fellows.

806
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 7: Would you rather have to use only sports commentary, catchphrases

807
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 7: and voice in every conversation or only be able to

808
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 7: answer questions in the form of stadium chants?

809
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: Oh, answer answer questions in the form of stadium chants,

810
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: because that will just absolutely infuriate my co host. Like

811
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: if every time he's like, what do you want for

812
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: dinner and I'm like, I want ways, I want waits, No,

813
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: i want ways, Oh my god, yeah, I'm allay, no, give.

814
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Speaker 5: Me the other one, that that would be so obnoxious.

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00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 4: Also, there's just not creative like stadium chance we are,

816
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 4: at least in American sports, like at least at least

817
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 4: international soccer and stuff like that, Like they're creative with

818
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 4: that their songs are fun and things like that, you

819
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: get the.

820
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Speaker 5: Whole stadium going.

821
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 4: Like just repeating the same inane thing over and over

822
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: and over again makes me insane.

823
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Speaker 7: Guys, would you rather only be able to watch w

824
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 7: NBA games or preseason football?

825
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 5: Preseason football? I listen.

826
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 4: I It's it's nothing against it's nothing against the women

827
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Speaker 4: that play in the w NBA or anything like that. Like,

828
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Speaker 4: I just I have not gotten myself to be interested

829
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: in the w NBA, and that's that's a personal preference.

830
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 5: It's if you're down for that, it's fine.

831
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are talking about the

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00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 4: w NBA as if they actually watch it without actually

833
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: watching the w NBA, which is always funny for me

834
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 4: to listen to that level of analysis. But I'm already

835
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 4: I'm already going through preseason football anyway. At least that's

836
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Speaker 4: something that I enjoy.

837
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say, by the way, the amount of

838
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Speaker 3: people that say they hate the W that have never

839
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: watched it, or say they love the w that have

840
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: never watched it is really alarming to me. True sermon

841
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: in my ain is probably preseason football because I just

842
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 3: I do what I do because I love football, Like

843
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: I think we can all admit that, like, that's okay

844
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: to admit I I do watch more w than most people.

845
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 3: I'm also willing to admit that, but also I wish

846
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 3: we could be more fair in the way we cover it,

847
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 3: sometimes good and bad. All Right, Buck mentioned it. The

848
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Speaker 3: ap pole is out. We'll tell you who's overrated.

849
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 5: Next.

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00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: Two pros and a cup of Joe.