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<v Speaker 1>Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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<v Speaker 1>for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the

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<v Speaker 1>confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco.

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<v Speaker 2>And now your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 3>Today is Tuesday, February twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, and

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<v Speaker 3>we are fifty eight days away from the NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 3>in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Welcome into the Draft Show, presented

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<v Speaker 3>by Miller Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Miller Time. It's also NFL Combined time. Players hit

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<v Speaker 3>the field in Indianapolis at Lucas Oil Stadium this week.

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<v Speaker 3>We are so excited to have something to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to the finality of these players. And

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<v Speaker 3>with that being said, we've got a lot of our

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<v Speaker 3>groups spread out across the country right now. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>some individuals in Indianapolis like Tommy and Nick. We've got

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<v Speaker 3>some individuals in Arizona for Ranger spring training like Zach

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<v Speaker 3>and Brian and Bobby. So we've got one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best to ever do it on the Draft Show, Vatch

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<v Speaker 3>Lombardi back.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, Fotch.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, We've got Aiasha Morrison back on the show

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time this year, I arnicles. I cannot

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<v Speaker 3>tell you how excited those that have been watching have

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<v Speaker 3>been on the mentions and on the Twitter waves and

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<v Speaker 3>the YouTube waves to get you back in the fold.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, Doug.

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<v Speaker 4>I was seeing all the mentions people have been messaging me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, did you feel a little pressure?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, star power, I'm gonna keep it the thousand on here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm like, y'all, you ever had people like

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<v Speaker 3>getting excited to have you on a show like that?

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<v Speaker 6>Means they cussing me and tell me I don't know what

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking about. They don't like me like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Why you gotta be faking like that? Do you know

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<v Speaker 4>people like you?

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<v Speaker 7>They tolerate me. They they put up with me. You

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<v Speaker 7>know like you you are you are a star are

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<v Speaker 7>to Aha, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 6>One of those.

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<v Speaker 4>It's nice to be back. The Draft Show means a

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<v Speaker 4>lot to me.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I definitely have some fomo not being in it,

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<v Speaker 8>But I've been paying attention to you guys. Get some

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<v Speaker 8>insight from you guys. It's been different for me because

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<v Speaker 8>you know, with the Draft Show is like I think

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<v Speaker 8>I have I'm going at a different pace this year,

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<v Speaker 8>which I actually am excited about because it's allowing me

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<v Speaker 8>to even go even more in depth than what I

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<v Speaker 8>was before.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm happy to be here, happy to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>With you guys, no doubt about it. And you and

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<v Speaker 3>I have taken a trip to the Combine together before,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know what that process is like. You were

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<v Speaker 3>at the Senior Bowl, so we got to catch up

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<v Speaker 3>with you out there for a little bit and mobiles,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know what that's like. I mean, you have

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<v Speaker 3>the experience, and you have the background now, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>an experienced NFL draft analyst vet in your own right,

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<v Speaker 3>so I kind of want to ask you just generalities

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<v Speaker 3>of this draft class. I mean, what are some of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that you've kind of latched onto and seen

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<v Speaker 3>across the way whenever you're doing your research. What's your

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<v Speaker 3>general feel about what twenty twenty five looks like.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm obviously one of the best running back classes we

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<v Speaker 8>have seen in a while. I think you can grab

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<v Speaker 8>a guy in the third, fourth, maybe fifth, and like

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<v Speaker 8>maybe beginning of the fifth and be like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 8>this guy can actually come in and play. Obviously, we

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<v Speaker 8>talked about the defensive tackle position and all the versatility

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<v Speaker 8>that is there.

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<v Speaker 4>I also too, like I.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, we're not gonna talk about it much today because

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<v Speaker 8>you know, it's a quarterback is quarterback, but I think

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<v Speaker 8>some of the gentlemen that you know, this quarterback class

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<v Speaker 8>is some a class that people have been down on.

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<v Speaker 8>But as you look within in the games and some

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<v Speaker 8>of those things, like, you do see some guys that

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<v Speaker 8>you're like, Okay, well maybe he will be, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>a bout Knicks type guy or have that type of impact.

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<v Speaker 8>So for me, it's really the running back class, the

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<v Speaker 8>defensive tackle class, and also too, I do think there's

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<v Speaker 8>some good guards out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not obviously not as rich as it was with

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<v Speaker 8>TA the tackle position as it was last year and

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<v Speaker 8>things like that, but m one of my things is

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<v Speaker 8>there's a lot of tackles in.

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<v Speaker 4>Disguise, a lot of guards in disguise as tackles.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 8>That's again I'm still very fresh in my study, but

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<v Speaker 8>those are some of the things I've noticed so far.

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<v Speaker 6>What y'all got, may I please? Right?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, we even got in our little group chat

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<v Speaker 7>situation texting about quarterbacks and I was like, by a humbug,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not here for quarterbacks, but the Cowboys probably have

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<v Speaker 7>to do something as far as young quarterbacks go.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that even something that y'all are on board?

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<v Speaker 8>Where?

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<v Speaker 7>And look, they don't care nothing about us, right, but

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<v Speaker 7>we got knees, we got stuff that I would like

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<v Speaker 7>to have, And Brother Jones came out and said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>we would likely entertain the trade and that could be

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<v Speaker 7>mean to trade in a fifth or sixth round pick

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<v Speaker 7>to go get like a veteran or something like that.

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<v Speaker 7>Do y'all even think that, Like, do y'all think that

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<v Speaker 7>it's room to draft a young quarterback just to sit

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<v Speaker 7>down and develop. With Dak Prescott having four years under

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<v Speaker 7>his contract coming up, Like, is that even worth it?

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<v Speaker 8>I kind of get your thinking with all the other

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<v Speaker 8>needs you have, because hater tots.

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<v Speaker 6>Give me another lineback's heavy.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, the amount of guys you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 8>especially with the injuries and then possibly resigning guys. But

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<v Speaker 8>I also will say, like, I think we saw that

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<v Speaker 8>David Moore reported that, you know, maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not gonna sign back Trey Lance.

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<v Speaker 8>So then it's like I saw a lot of people

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<v Speaker 8>comments on my post about Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Well what about Will Grier? He's on the rosters.

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<v Speaker 3>He's there, so I.

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<v Speaker 8>Would you is Will Grier an upgrade that If that

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<v Speaker 8>gets hurt, I'm going back in the draft mode for

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<v Speaker 8>twenty twenty six late, all right, And that would be

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<v Speaker 8>the reason why maybe they would be cool to get

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<v Speaker 8>in a quarterback in the later rounds.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't think of anything other that's.

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<v Speaker 6>The key though.

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<v Speaker 3>It's got to be the letter. Later rounds. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>talking top one hundred picks. We're not talking first, second,

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<v Speaker 3>third round. If you wanted to trade for a veteran

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<v Speaker 3>and make a move and package one of the four

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<v Speaker 3>fourth or fifth round picks you're gonna have, sure, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you could do that. I don't have any names that

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<v Speaker 3>even I would throw out there, even if I was

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<v Speaker 3>able to tamper and throw it out there, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have anybody that I would want. But the if you

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to maybe entertain that option with the fifth round pick, sixth,

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<v Speaker 3>seventh round picks that you have aboard, I'm I'm here

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<v Speaker 3>for it. I'm not here for another premium pick. You've

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<v Speaker 3>already wasted one fourth round pick. Yeah, because right now

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<v Speaker 3>it is, it's a waste. Trey Lance was a wasted

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<v Speaker 3>You tried it. You saw what he had, you thought

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you struck gold, And if you're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>resign them, then then it's west, plain and simple. So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do that again. I'm okay with

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<v Speaker 3>talking about later picks and throwing some out there, but

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<v Speaker 3>right now, when he said that yesterday, I get the

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<v Speaker 3>general sense that they would throw a dart at the

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<v Speaker 3>board maybe in the sixth or seventh.

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<v Speaker 7>Round question because I'm just not sure. There's an imaginary

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<v Speaker 7>team on the West coast allegedly allegedly and boy they

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<v Speaker 7>just got I'm just assuming they got this Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 7>pass catcher type character.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Like, is that a trade situation or is he

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<v Speaker 6>a free agent guy?

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<v Speaker 3>That would be a trade situation.

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<v Speaker 7>So would you rather Okay, somebody come and just said,

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<v Speaker 7>would you rather like Kyle McCourt Syracuse, right, would you

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<v Speaker 7>rather him? Or would you rather send a five to

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<v Speaker 7>some miscellaneous team for a pass catch that can help you?

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<v Speaker 3>I would rather do the second one.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even think it's room for like you both

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<v Speaker 6>of those.

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<v Speaker 7>Though you got five, you got four to fives four fives, man,

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<v Speaker 7>I need some linebackers because we hurt. I would love

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<v Speaker 7>maybe like another running back just because the running back

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<v Speaker 7>class is so fit.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you rather go get a veteran quarterack back, veteran

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback to back up Dak Prescott, or go get a

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<v Speaker 3>veteran linebacker to fill your linebacker room, because that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of what you're deciding.

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<v Speaker 8>Because I wonder what the veteran linebacker thing. I wonder

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<v Speaker 8>if there's even any interest in bringing back Kendricks. Obviously Kendricks,

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<v Speaker 8>like I felt like last year, he dealt with some injuries,

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<v Speaker 8>but towards the latter part of the season.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought we saw him kind of come together and

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<v Speaker 4>play better.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder a thirty three year old linebacker, I wonder.

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<v Speaker 8>If you can get him for the lo lol lolo

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<v Speaker 8>or whatever and bring him back.

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<v Speaker 5>And as opposed to the lowe.

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<v Speaker 7>That's very low, goodbye, that means super low, just as

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<v Speaker 7>low as you no knock the Kendricks.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't get me, don't get me fired up.

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<v Speaker 8>But I personally think some positions require veteran and I

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<v Speaker 8>am sick and tired of this linebacker corps always being

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<v Speaker 8>in limbo because you do not have a steady veteran

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<v Speaker 8>to teach these guys to mentor these guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>and obviously we heard the players last year talk about

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<v Speaker 8>just even though Kendricks wasn't on the field all the time,

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<v Speaker 8>just the impact of having a veteran that's been there,

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<v Speaker 8>that's done it, that's seeing it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm ready for that.

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<v Speaker 8>I think there's some key positions you need veterans in,

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<v Speaker 8>and to me that would be defensive tackle, and it

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<v Speaker 8>would be linebacker.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm I'm always going to like if I could take

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<v Speaker 7>a pick and get a veteran with his young team,

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<v Speaker 7>everybody's you know, curious about leadership and all that. I

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<v Speaker 7>would love to bring as many old auxiliary type dudes

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<v Speaker 7>I can bring, because look, if Dak was on like

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<v Speaker 7>some one year contract or something, right then, in my mind,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going, okay, I'm gonna use one of these fives

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<v Speaker 7>as like a roll the dice, as like a you know,

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<v Speaker 7>like a lottery ticket type thing. Right that is here,

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<v Speaker 7>So if he's here, there's no young dude taking over

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<v Speaker 7>anytime soon. So it could be Kyle Youmans and i

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<v Speaker 7>Asha Morrison playing backup quarterbacks for me.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying, got.

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<v Speaker 3>A cannon son't watch out.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't if I need if I need a second

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<v Speaker 7>or third quarterback, I'm just not even interested anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, if Dak is out, then you're out right,

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<v Speaker 3>if that is as a team, If Dak is out,

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<v Speaker 3>then you're already down.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think Will Grier is gonna win us the

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<v Speaker 7>last eight games. If something bad happens.

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<v Speaker 8>That's how football go though, Like you lose your quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>The expectation drops significant.

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<v Speaker 8>It drops significantly. But I will say too, and again

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<v Speaker 8>this is not my perspective. I'm just speaking with Dak

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<v Speaker 8>Prescott and some of the history that he's had, Like

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<v Speaker 8>some of the injuries have been freak injuries, but some

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<v Speaker 8>of them are just legitimate injuries.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that something that they're thinking about.

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<v Speaker 7>And if that's the case, they think about If that's

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<v Speaker 7>the case, I want to do what the Eagles did

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<v Speaker 7>and get like a Kenny Pickett type type character, right,

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<v Speaker 7>like a like a higher up here type backup guy,

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<v Speaker 7>but a fifth rounder shooting the dice on him to

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<v Speaker 7>come in save us. If that gets I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 7>to do that. So if I'm trying to find the best,

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<v Speaker 7>and they probably tried to do that. They sent them

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<v Speaker 7>forth to get Tray and they hope that Trey was

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<v Speaker 7>gonna turn into something that was gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>Something that was that stab it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I get that.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, if and if there's not one of

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<v Speaker 7>those dudes available, because it ain't even thirty two starting quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 7>I like, so let alone go find some backups somewhere.

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<v Speaker 7>Unless you find me Jameis Winston or something, then I

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<v Speaker 7>can I can feel good like like like that type.

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<v Speaker 6>Of dude, you know what I'm saying. But if it ain't.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody that's gonna add to your locker room, even if

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<v Speaker 3>he's not playing that kind of.

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<v Speaker 6>Thing, James is gonna give us some damn content. You hear.

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<v Speaker 4>Other sidelines gonna be the best it's ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Alex Lilly, our editor in the back, is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be just beaming whenever we signed or trade for Jared.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if is he a free agent.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he is, hell yeah, could be, who knows.

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<v Speaker 7>But as far as them fives them fives, I'm drafting

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<v Speaker 7>another uh tackle on defense because that group is fantastic,

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<v Speaker 7>and drafting a running back. I'm sending that fifth to

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<v Speaker 7>go get a wire C from some damn team over there.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know whatever, and hell with the fifth word

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<v Speaker 7>is your oyster?

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<v Speaker 4>I have a question, man.

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<v Speaker 8>So when you talk about Shoddy coming in and taking

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<v Speaker 8>over obviously as the head coach, there is a gentleman

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<v Speaker 8>that is somewhere in Pittsburgh that is I personally, I'm

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<v Speaker 8>not sure what his contract situation is, but I do

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<v Speaker 8>feel like he is kind of in the latter part

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<v Speaker 8>of his career.

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<v Speaker 6>What alleged position he played.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh, the the one that have the ball a lot?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, okay, okay, yeah, okay, Cowboys ride, cowboys ride?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Would you be interested even in that?

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<v Speaker 5>Like again, think Pittsburgh is interested in that.

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<v Speaker 4>But are they?

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<v Speaker 8>Are they interested in keeping him? Because I was listening

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<v Speaker 8>at the same bowl I have him my ears little

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<v Speaker 8>to the ground. It sounds like they might be over it.

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<v Speaker 8>So for me, it's like, if they're.

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<v Speaker 4>Over it, there's history there with Shoddy and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>My question is who else did they have?

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<v Speaker 6>I take the other one, Yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Nugget, the other alleged young one that likes horseshoes a

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<v Speaker 3>lot and played in one.

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<v Speaker 8>But they're in a weird situation period right now at

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<v Speaker 8>that position to where I think they might be willing

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<v Speaker 8>to part ways with one of those humans if they are,

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<v Speaker 8>Are you interested in anyone of them?

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<v Speaker 7>If that's my backup, they can have a five. They

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<v Speaker 7>can have a five if that's my feeling.

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<v Speaker 8>Because I think both of those guys at this point

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<v Speaker 8>are in that range that you folks.

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<v Speaker 4>Are talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that idea.

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<v Speaker 6>I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I just was starting out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the I love how like we have to talk

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<v Speaker 3>in like code because half of our listenership is probably like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what was really like? That was that was funny.

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<v Speaker 6>How don't work man?

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<v Speaker 3>And then the other then the other half is like,

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<v Speaker 3>what the hell are they talking about?

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<v Speaker 6>The security? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Walking down? Uh No, all those players are free agents.

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<v Speaker 7>Case oh so justin justin Field, yes, and Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 7>can come right up in here.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's what I was missing. I'm looking at the

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<v Speaker 3>list right now, buddy. I'm not up to speed on

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<v Speaker 3>on Pittsburgh's free agents.

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<v Speaker 7>Russell Wilson making thirty eight dollars in Pittsburgh. They're not

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<v Speaker 7>gonna give him no money or whatever, you know what

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<v Speaker 7>I'm saying. So I think that'll be a prime you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know what I'm saying, do you think would you rather

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<v Speaker 3>have one or the other?

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<v Speaker 6>I would rather have Fields and Wilson rather have the nugget.

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<v Speaker 7>I would have the youth for you what I want.

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<v Speaker 7>I think he's physically better right now. He doesn't have

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<v Speaker 7>all the processing stuff that Russell has in the experience.

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<v Speaker 3>But and I also don't want the stupid like storylines

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<v Speaker 3>that would be around Russ at that, Yeah, because it

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<v Speaker 3>would be unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 6>This is gonna be dumb.

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<v Speaker 5>Regardless formidable that.

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<v Speaker 8>I think he would be a formidable backup at this

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<v Speaker 8>point obviously either one still needing to develop, still needing

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<v Speaker 8>some time. I think Dak would be a good fit

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<v Speaker 8>for him. There are some similarities in their game. How

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<v Speaker 8>would he fit here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's almost like taking the Trey Lance deal again, but

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<v Speaker 3>you're only sending a fifth instead of.

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<v Speaker 8>A fourth, and I do, but I obviously there's more

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<v Speaker 8>playing time there, there's more experience there. He's played in

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<v Speaker 8>multiple systems. I think maybe that would be a good

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<v Speaker 8>start for that part.

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<v Speaker 7>Justin Fields. In the well, you ain't got to send

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<v Speaker 7>a pick for him. So, yeah, he's better than any

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<v Speaker 7>quarterback you can get in Day three, especially in this draft.

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<v Speaker 7>This draft don't really stretch like that.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>Dylan Gabriel maybe a guy that you would assume because

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<v Speaker 7>you know, he's throwing some cool little pad, he's won

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<v Speaker 7>some games, whatever. But I'm you know, feels with the

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<v Speaker 7>athleticism in the arm.

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<v Speaker 3>Could you pair Let me think of it this way.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking back to BODENXT. You meant you brought him up.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the big pluses for boen X last year

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<v Speaker 3>is that he had his top college wide receiver go

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<v Speaker 3>with him to Denver. Is there a way you could

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<v Speaker 3>pair quarterbacks here with some of their bigger, uh more

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<v Speaker 3>utilized wide receivers. So like Dylan Gabriel, you can say,

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<v Speaker 3>Tess Johnson, Yeah, I think you know.

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<v Speaker 6>I like to.

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<v Speaker 8>But with Dylan Gabriel, one thing that I noticed at

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<v Speaker 8>the Senior Bowl, and this is something that I heard

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<v Speaker 8>numerous scouts say.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk about his.

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<v Speaker 8>Height, yeah, and the size obviously we talk about it,

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<v Speaker 8>but seeing it in real time, the guy can deliver

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<v Speaker 8>a ball. The guy has fantastic touch in those things,

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<v Speaker 8>but bebe he could not see over those offensive linemen

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<v Speaker 8>at the Senior Bowl. And I do think that that's

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<v Speaker 8>something that even we saw with.

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<v Speaker 4>Bryce Young. We saw with Bryce Young, We've seen we

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<v Speaker 4>saw with Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 5>Earlier in his career.

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<v Speaker 8>Drew Brees is that those guys eventually adapt and they

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<v Speaker 8>figure it out, like it takes them a little time

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<v Speaker 8>to figure it out. I really like, I really enjoyed,

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<v Speaker 8>have enjoyed Dylan Grey Brown what he's able to do,

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<v Speaker 8>and obviously too, he knows how to distribute the ball

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<v Speaker 8>across the stars, which I wouldn't be opposed to him

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<v Speaker 8>in the later rounds either.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think there's anything wrong with going for the

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<v Speaker 7>older guy though, because we've been seeing this emergence of

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<v Speaker 7>the old man. Q just kind of coming back. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>Baker's having a.

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<v Speaker 3>Business on that tam in California. I think, huh, there's

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<v Speaker 3>one on that team in California that you were talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>He wants some money though, Yeah, my money ain't no

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<v Speaker 6>free agent.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah huh.

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<v Speaker 3>We're making a reference back to the early part of

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<v Speaker 3>the episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're talking about the Boombox people.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no. The

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<v Speaker 6>other California team.

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<v Speaker 3>The one that happens to have like maybe a hypothetical

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<v Speaker 3>receiver that they are pass catcher that they want to

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<v Speaker 3>maybe like trade somewhere.

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<v Speaker 7>He like thirty eight used to be in some some

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<v Speaker 7>Midwest team being California, and I just want a super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 6>Its ago just allegedly.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter picking it up.

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<v Speaker 7>It just takes a long story short. I'm not drafting

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<v Speaker 7>quarterback in day three at is. I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 7>find defensive tackle because defensive tackle stretches.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So what position group that you've watched, Ayisha, that

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<v Speaker 3>has that same caliber, that depth in this draft class

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<v Speaker 3>that you think Dallas can wait pass the first three

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<v Speaker 3>rounds on, Because that's been a lot of our conversation

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<v Speaker 3>is how do you spin those first three picks, first, second, third,

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<v Speaker 3>round twelve forty four to seventy six because you have

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<v Speaker 3>to wait. Now you luckily get to stack the back

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<v Speaker 3>half of your board and you get to throw a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of darts at the dark board. However, what position

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<v Speaker 3>even gives you confidence that it can get there?

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<v Speaker 8>I think it's only like obviously to me would be

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<v Speaker 8>defensive tackle and maybe running back.

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<v Speaker 4>I do get it.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna hurt when there is a run on running

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<v Speaker 8>backs in the fourth round. Ind but no, I think

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<v Speaker 8>with the defensive tackle class, like I know we're gonna

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<v Speaker 8>get to it, but I mean, even I think about

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<v Speaker 8>a guy like Josh Farmer, who I think is gonna

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<v Speaker 8>go a little later because some people have some questions

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<v Speaker 8>about him, But I again, like he's not super flashy.

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<v Speaker 4>He does and always looks super pretty. But a player, you.

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<v Speaker 8>Can add, that's going to have impact to me almost immediately.

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<v Speaker 7>What you guys think, I will save my Farmer take

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<v Speaker 7>for the this or that, But you're absolutely right. But

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<v Speaker 7>just another unit that goes a little bit far. Just

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<v Speaker 7>looking at my at my board here, you saw all these.

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<v Speaker 6>Edges I got.

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<v Speaker 7>I was thinking the same thing. I got twenty six edges. Man,

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<v Speaker 7>And by the time we get to this, I can

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<v Speaker 7>only assume that some of your round three edges will

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<v Speaker 7>drop down the four in some of your round four

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<v Speaker 7>guys go to five. So by that time, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>Josiph Stewart, Michigan, Powell, Ryland, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>V take Joey Ivy like Jerry Ivy, joe Yavey, Joseph,

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<v Speaker 7>joe Ya, Joe. There's there's a there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>guys you Jared jarediy O Mess, There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>guys you could just lean on Tyler Bear in Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>You know so, Hugh Robinson Alabama, A couple of these guys.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to butcher his name, but the gentleman

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<v Speaker 4>out of U. C.

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<v Speaker 3>L a Ola Ola de Joel.

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<v Speaker 8>Seeing him at the at the Senior Bowl, y'all, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>every day, I was like.

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<v Speaker 4>In the world is ninety nine?

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<v Speaker 8>Like his pops off the screen, so much power, not

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<v Speaker 8>super bendy, but still has good balance. He's another guy

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<v Speaker 8>that I think people are gonna be because the motor

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<v Speaker 8>is just it runs.

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<v Speaker 6>He don't even know how to how to pass.

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<v Speaker 3>Rich He's got he got switched. Oh yeah, this this

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<v Speaker 3>place in the background.

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<v Speaker 7>Ye we got Phil, Yes, sir. He don't even know

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<v Speaker 7>how to pass. Russhit. This just all ball get off

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<v Speaker 7>burst as well. And he's fantastic in the run game

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<v Speaker 7>for a stand up uh you know, edgy type guy whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a big fan he is. I got him into four,

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<v Speaker 7>but I can see him going higher though. Somebody gonna

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<v Speaker 7>like him.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Same thing he told us at the Senior Bowl that

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<v Speaker 3>he started as a linebacker, was recruited as a linebacker.

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<v Speaker 3>Even some teams will still list him as a linebacker.

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<v Speaker 3>But that man has an edge rusher, no doubt about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I moved him. I had him kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>fourth or fifth round when before Senior Bowl, I had

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<v Speaker 3>him in the four, like four to five, that little

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<v Speaker 3>cheater grade back there, And when we saw him at

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<v Speaker 3>the Senior Bowl, I bumped him to a third. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>telling you, as an edge rusher, I think, like you said,

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<v Speaker 3>there's fundamental aspects of his game that aren't great. The handwork,

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<v Speaker 3>the footwork, the balance, the bend. But he has all

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<v Speaker 3>the natural ability if you could get him in the

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<v Speaker 3>right place and put him in the right position to

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<v Speaker 3>be successful where he's not doing that and he's not

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<v Speaker 3>playing off the second level and instead he's rushing from

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<v Speaker 3>the line of scrimmage. I think this dude's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a monster.

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<v Speaker 8>He's such a good mixture of power and speed, and

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<v Speaker 8>like you mentioned, he just working off of genetics to

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<v Speaker 8>be taught, like for someone to help him work his

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<v Speaker 8>hands more. I think he's going to be a problem.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, any other late round edge that you kind

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<v Speaker 3>of keep your eye on. I mean, I know Baron

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<v Speaker 3>Sorell was a Texas edge rusher, a little undersized, but

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<v Speaker 3>he was somebody at the Senior Bowl that stuck out.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be somebody in the day three range for me.

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<v Speaker 7>See man, At one point I did have him as

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<v Speaker 7>like a day three guy, but he just kept whopping folk.

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<v Speaker 6>He kept where's he at?

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<v Speaker 9>Now?

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<v Speaker 6>He's a he's a he's a three for me. He's

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<v Speaker 6>he's a high three for me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sight these edges.

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<v Speaker 7>The Currell Swinson Sawyer birching at or that where I

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<v Speaker 7>got him bunched up in there.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's a you say, Josiah Stewart.

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<v Speaker 6>Was Josiah Stu What you scrolling? Litte?

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<v Speaker 7>Josiah is in the is in the fourth round for me,

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<v Speaker 7>and he has some good tape. Also, if you watch

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<v Speaker 7>his USC game, he gave those children fits. But if

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<v Speaker 7>you watch some of his other games, you kind of see, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>well this is where he's gonna have some some problems there.

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<v Speaker 7>But very athletic, get up field kind of guy. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>he's not a technically refined That's another theme too. A

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<v Speaker 7>lot of these guys aren't gonna be technically.

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<v Speaker 8>Refined, and that's what people are looking for sure, and

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<v Speaker 8>they make me mad.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you can't have that, because why does it make

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<v Speaker 7>you mad? Why does it make you mad?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, first of all, it's frustrating because I do think

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<v Speaker 8>that a lot of people are looking for the finished

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<v Speaker 8>product with some of these positions. Then I'm like, dog,

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<v Speaker 8>do you understand the detail and being a defensive end,

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<v Speaker 8>do you understand what they're asked to do on a

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<v Speaker 8>consistent basis. I appreciate the fact like seeing guys that

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<v Speaker 8>because I look at a guy like John Joyner out

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<v Speaker 8>of Minnesota, super tall, again, not a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 8>bending things, but you can see that he has balance.

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<v Speaker 8>You can see that he obviously needs to improve some

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<v Speaker 8>of his hand movement, but the feeder quick, he has

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<v Speaker 8>some decent get off.

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<v Speaker 4>Why not? Like, do we develop anymore out here?

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<v Speaker 7>I ain't even seeing him, So you're just doing You're

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<v Speaker 7>doing your thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes I just picked people, so look, this is my thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It's like Keanu Benton all over again out.

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<v Speaker 4>Of no or like I'm a watch him today.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you know whoever it is? You know me?

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<v Speaker 7>You Kyle, you you kind of are either going to

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<v Speaker 7>be floora guy or girl or ceiling guy. Like it

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<v Speaker 7>just depends on what you like. I happen to be

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<v Speaker 7>floora guy, I like the Okay, you know how to

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<v Speaker 7>use your hands already, you know certain little techniques already,

0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 7>I can kind of, you know, fix certain things.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>Jack Sawry is a great example of that, Like he's

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<v Speaker 7>ready to go right now, and Mike Hail Williams from

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<v Speaker 7>George is like the opposite of that, right, he's all ceiling.

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<v Speaker 7>But my problem is when you're so ceiling, guy, I

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<v Speaker 7>want to see you feel when you're so ceiling, guy,

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<v Speaker 7>I want to at least see how you win right now,

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<v Speaker 7>you know what I'm saying. I want to see you win,

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<v Speaker 7>But then I want to see room to grow. So

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<v Speaker 7>princely uh mam and.

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<v Speaker 3>Yelling umami, yelling, yep uma and yelling.

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<v Speaker 7>He's a double digit set guy right now and he's

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<v Speaker 7>ceiling and he's got room to go.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why he's a top pick. That's why he's a

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<v Speaker 3>guy that will probably sneak into the back half of

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<v Speaker 3>the first in my opinion, so second on my board,

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<v Speaker 3>but he'll probably be a pick in the first.

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<v Speaker 7>So I don't have a problem with the with the

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<v Speaker 7>not refined guys, I at least just want to see

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<v Speaker 7>you Okay, show me how you win right now, and

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<v Speaker 7>then I could teach you everything like the nuances later

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<v Speaker 7>on or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you talked about it. When you're a scout,

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<v Speaker 3>you either see it as a floor, you see it

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<v Speaker 3>as a ceiling. I'm probably as a media scout myself,

0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm probably more so a ceiling guy because I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>for traits and I'm also trying to pair it, like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, with production. As I'm riding my scouting reports

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 3>and putting it together, I'm looking at these guys and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, Okay, Wow, they were all acc they were

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<v Speaker 3>all sec they were doing all American things. They are

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<v Speaker 3>putting it all together, but I just don't see the

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<v Speaker 3>ceiling side of it. Where that That's where the floor

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<v Speaker 3>comes in, and that's where you end up having these

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<v Speaker 3>guys that end up with phenomenal college careers, but they

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<v Speaker 3>don't fit in with certain teams and they start dropping

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<v Speaker 3>down boards and they end up having great careers. Jalen

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<v Speaker 3>Hurts was one of those guys. Jalen Hurts was guy

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<v Speaker 3>where you a lot of teams didn't see a ceiling,

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<v Speaker 3>but they didn't need one from Jalen.

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<v Speaker 5>He had the floor don't start h please.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is true. But guess what, but hey win with him,

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<v Speaker 3>they will they find a way to do it. And

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<v Speaker 3>so and he's not the only example. That's just the

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<v Speaker 3>first one that came to mind, because I know we've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about him on this show before. So there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>elements to the way you scout and that's just going

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<v Speaker 3>to continue to develop as the draft class goes on.

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<v Speaker 8>A situational as well, Like a situational what type of

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:48.399
<v Speaker 8>depth do you guy like?

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<v Speaker 4>What type of guys you have?

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<v Speaker 8>Again, to help these guys develop and to help these

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<v Speaker 8>guys become absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 7>Give me a living, give me a living cow cow

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<v Speaker 7>Vin and we can go runt it. Just a guy

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<v Speaker 7>who's going to plan to leave for twelve years. Not

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<v Speaker 7>exciting at all, but just a hard working love ball.

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<v Speaker 7>Just I ain't got a gamble like Calvanoyd now is

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<v Speaker 7>who he was in Cottage Boy.

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<v Speaker 5>I just love to like him.

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<v Speaker 6>I love secures.

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty watch, you're talking about how excited you are

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't just pop up, you know, like you you've

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<v Speaker 3>got the You've got the hard work of the people

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<v Speaker 3>in the back, Guys like Chris Beam, Scott Purcell, Jasmine Marshall,

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Bastidis, Victor's back there. And that's not even the

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<v Speaker 3>end of it. There's a whole group of people that

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<v Speaker 3>are constantly cutting film, so much so that here as

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<v Speaker 3>we stand, fifty eight days away from the NFL Draft

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<v Speaker 3>on February twenty fifth, we don't have quarterback film.

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<v Speaker 6>The nerve of me to be like, got no specialty.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what they've got. They've got long snapper film.

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<v Speaker 3>Vach Lombardi, Botch Lombardi. It's long snapper film. This is

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you a little bit about this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Adam but Blankman, Brinkman, Brinkman. I mean, let

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<v Speaker 3>me tell you something about Brinkman.

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<v Speaker 8>Man.

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<v Speaker 7>I love how it stands. He got that right foot

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<v Speaker 7>behind his front foot. Look, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't watch Brinkman dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, you haven't watched him yet. No, dude, you're

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<v Speaker 3>behind man.

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<v Speaker 6>Special teams ain't real. That's not a position.

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<v Speaker 4>What's that?

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<v Speaker 3>What's that? The John foss On and Nick Scerton he'll work, John,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll working and all that.

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<v Speaker 6>But man, Man, I got I got real football to

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<v Speaker 6>watse Man.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a real football player, six foot four two

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<v Speaker 3>forty got a bel Air Maryland doing some work with

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<v Speaker 3>West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 6>Well around you got him?

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<v Speaker 8>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>The first absolutely.

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<v Speaker 8>To what place do you have to be into draft

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<v Speaker 8>a long snapper?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, you gotta be you gotta be great, you gotta

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<v Speaker 6>want to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Your team's gotta be really good.

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<v Speaker 6>I was thinking, like, you gotta win five in a

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<v Speaker 6>row and you can do what you wanted.

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<v Speaker 8>Gotta win draft and then be like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 8>matter of fact, you've got Alabama?

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<v Speaker 3>How about Alabama punter film? Would you be interested in that?

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<v Speaker 7>Last Your last name got to be Jones because ain't

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<v Speaker 7>nobody going to fire you for gobaz?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my goodness, I want to all get fired.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a I've got a scouting report on the

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<v Speaker 3>on the Alabama punter. Me two seconds, Yeah, give you

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<v Speaker 3>two seconds. This is Graham. Oh wait no, this is

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<v Speaker 3>James Burnip, the Red Shirt senior, one of the top

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<v Speaker 3>punters in the country, helped to tie the limited opponents

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<v Speaker 3>to less than one yard per punt return mark and

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<v Speaker 3>leads the nation fifth in the SEC for yards per

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<v Speaker 3>punt this past year.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's impressive.

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<v Speaker 8>Weapon.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was from the play by play boards. Don't worry,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't actually watch The Punter Film. Congratulations James Burnet.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we've got some time now, all right, welcome back?

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<v Speaker 3>Ay you sha hello? You remember this? You want to

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<v Speaker 3>cue the the What do we have coming up?

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<v Speaker 4>Twitter?

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<v Speaker 3>On the Twitter? Somebody I like echo the the first

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<v Speaker 3>one actually has a question for Are you sure?

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<v Speaker 9>Ask me?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they want to know who pet cat? Who's your

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<v Speaker 3>pet cat? So far going into combine week?

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<v Speaker 9>Huh?

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<v Speaker 3>All right?

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<v Speaker 6>What's the rule for pitt kit though? Go ahead and

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<v Speaker 6>get that together, Like, what's the rule? Like, it's gotta be.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody that you would be willing to stake your or

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<v Speaker 3>stand on the table for. Okay, to be a first

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<v Speaker 3>round guy if you really feel like it. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>probably more so you're not gonna stand on the table

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<v Speaker 3>for a first round guy. Okay, You're gonna stand on

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<v Speaker 3>the table for more of like a second, third, day

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<v Speaker 3>three guy.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Yeah, I guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably the later you get in the draft, the more

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<v Speaker 3>you're standing on the table for.

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<v Speaker 6>Talk about when the running backs you like?

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<v Speaker 4>I No, I don't want to do that. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>talk about wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 6>I like, go for it.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched Ricky White.

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<v Speaker 3>Last night, and man, we talked about him briefly the

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<v Speaker 3>somebody Else's nicky, big dog man.

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<v Speaker 8>He's fun, six to six' one, basically six to two,

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<v Speaker 8>little lighting the butt. He won eighty, but he put

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<v Speaker 8>on a show at the Shrine Bowl, and there's a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of buzz coming from him. What really stands out

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<v Speaker 8>to me is how willing of a blocker he is.

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 8>And he's not just and when you look across the

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 8>NFL and you look at some of the best offenses

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<v Speaker 8>in the league, they have guys that on the offensive

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<v Speaker 8>side that are willing to get up field, get to

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<v Speaker 8>the second level and to block. This is a guy

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<v Speaker 8>that can do that as well. You see his physicality.

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:24.479
<v Speaker 8>He's able to play through contact. He's a pretty steady

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<v Speaker 8>route runner. He displayed that at the Shrine Bowl. He

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<v Speaker 8>was cooking these folks out there.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's quick off the snap.

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<v Speaker 8>I just like how he also how he attacks angles

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 8>and he makes people work. And when you think of it,

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<v Speaker 8>it's funny that like when you watch him. I watched him,

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<v Speaker 8>I saw some Ricky Pierso. I saw some of that style.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously not as dynamic, but still a gentleman that I

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<v Speaker 8>think is gonna I think he can really raise his

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<v Speaker 8>stock at the comp, well, if he's at the comp,

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<v Speaker 8>and I'm not sure, but yeah, I believe Ricky White

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<v Speaker 8>is a gentleman that I'm looking to really, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and obviously the yards after catch ability, so everyone wants

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<v Speaker 8>a guy kind of like what he is right now.

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<v Speaker 5>The size is okay, yeah, I like it so.

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<v Speaker 3>That that would that would be classified as a pet cake. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm probably a fourth round receiver. Maybe would you where

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<v Speaker 3>would you put him?

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<v Speaker 8>I would put Ricky maybe in the yeah, maybe the

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<v Speaker 8>beginning of the four late third, depending on how you feel,

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<v Speaker 8>depending on how the bought the board falls. I think

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to see a run on wide receivers, maybe

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<v Speaker 8>the middle of the first and then going into the second.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, yeah, wah Morris and Lady Jumps just step

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<v Speaker 7>right in and just whooping.

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<v Speaker 6>And she miss a day up in.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, not even a blink. Tell me a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>about what your pet who was your pet?

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<v Speaker 7>Cat offensive line for me? May y'all know people, Marcus

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<v Speaker 7>Bough from Purdue is that's the style.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just actually no, it's just bow like a bow

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<v Speaker 3>and arrow, but there's a silent m guarter. So it's Marcus.

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<v Speaker 7>Bow the m silence. Okay, so I ash, that's a

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<v Speaker 7>fantastic question, you know, glad you brought that up. People

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<v Speaker 7>have him as a guard. I don't like little bitty guards.

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 7>That's my you know, that's my my problem. He's about

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<v Speaker 7>two ninety damn. What I really like about Marcus Bao

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 7>man is that he's nuanced guy. I always talk about

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<v Speaker 7>Flora guy, and I'm you know, I'm Flooria guy. He's

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<v Speaker 7>Florida guy. Take a look at his technique, look at

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<v Speaker 7>how he look at how he gets to the landmarks,

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<v Speaker 7>look at how he fights, look at how he sets

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<v Speaker 7>guys up kung fu fighting counters and all that. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>I'm blown away by his by his movement outside zone stuff.

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 7>I love how he gets to the next leve. Look

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<v Speaker 7>at him just reaching over there, getting to the second

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<v Speaker 7>level and blocking linebackers and DB's and and and I

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<v Speaker 7>love the idea of Marcus Bao playing tackle. But he

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't have the long arms that people want from their tackles.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, I think he's fine.

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<v Speaker 7>If you're a tackling you don't have long arms, and

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<v Speaker 7>I think you'll just live in this world where you

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<v Speaker 7>could just learn how to hand fight he's a badass

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<v Speaker 7>hand fighter man.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of them in disguise as guards.

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<v Speaker 6>It's all good.

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<v Speaker 7>But but you know, I think he can't play guard

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<v Speaker 7>depending on the system, because of his athleticism, because you

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<v Speaker 7>know those reaches that I just mentioned earlier, right, But

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<v Speaker 7>in my mind, I think he's a guy that probably

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<v Speaker 7>gonna gain a little bit of weight, peanut butter, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>just you know, get him, get him till about three

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<v Speaker 7>fifteen at least. I don't know how it's gonna work

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<v Speaker 7>over two or three years or so. But let him

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<v Speaker 7>play where he's natural. He's a natural tackle to me.

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<v Speaker 6>He's just light. He's just small.

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<v Speaker 7>So sometimes he gives up a little bit of ground

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 7>when he's getting bull rushing things like that. But as

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<v Speaker 7>far as the hands in kung Fu fighter, nothing makes

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<v Speaker 7>me smile more than my tackle being a good handed

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 7>kung fu fighter. Marcus Bow it spelled m apostre bow,

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<v Speaker 7>but apparently the first M a silent.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there an apostrophe? It's just mbow. I could be

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with but it's just bo and bow and arrow

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<v Speaker 3>come out. The one thing about him from the Senior

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl that I remember is he had kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>reverse Tyler geydon timeline at the Senior Bowl, whereas Tyler

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<v Speaker 3>Goydon had a great first day and then really was

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<v Speaker 3>rough the second two days, and I think his confidence

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<v Speaker 3>was a little shaken going into the draft process because

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<v Speaker 3>of that. I think Bo did the opposite. He had

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<v Speaker 3>a really rough first day. I remember we interviewed him

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<v Speaker 3>one of the first days we were out there on

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<v Speaker 3>Radio Row. We sat down with him and had a

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<v Speaker 3>great conversation with them. Good dude, very smart players. Said

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<v Speaker 3>he was watching film on these guys coming into it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was really excited to try and show the preparation.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was rough. The first day was really not good.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably would have put him as maybe a bottom

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<v Speaker 3>five guy on my offensive lineboard in that moment. He

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<v Speaker 3>steadily improved. Second day was much better. Third day he

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<v Speaker 3>was dominant.

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<v Speaker 7>You want to know why, because when you had ex

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<v Speaker 7>jo because when you have technique, you can adapt. Right,

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<v Speaker 7>You're not just a one trick pony. I'm a great athlete,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm a one trick pony, right, Tyler guy and

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<v Speaker 7>got worse because he's a one tree pony and people

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<v Speaker 7>and I hate to even saying that, because he's here now,

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 7>but it just is what it is. But Marcus was

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<v Speaker 7>able to figure it out on the fly. And I

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<v Speaker 7>loved that, man. I loved toughness on these smaller good technique,

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<v Speaker 7>having guys another one for you, Willy Lampkin beaming them

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<v Speaker 7>in the back. I bet Charliet got what's cool Willy

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 7>Lampy from North Carolina to back over there. Willy Lampkin

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<v Speaker 7>being five ten five, he's probably gona be five ten

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<v Speaker 7>two eighty five playing guard for North Carolina. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 7>I know, damn where you ain't wrestling these three hundred

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 7>and fifteen pound people. But he's a wrestler, right like,

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<v Speaker 7>not not football rest like he wrestles for real wrestle

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 7>and then he and he puts that in football. I

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<v Speaker 7>love that on a resume for a lineman offensive.

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<v Speaker 4>Or defensive, undefeated, keep playing.

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:20.800
<v Speaker 3>You're trying to keep one of those guys that was

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 3>a wrestler back in the day. And no said, zoo

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<v Speaker 3>this offseason and.

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<v Speaker 6>Give him that. I want to see both of them rest.

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.800
<v Speaker 4>But feel, yeah, just good, That's how I feel.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know where the money coming from, but just

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 6>get to him.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you need?

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 6>Do I need?

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 4>We have too many of the stuff you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 6>That's they try to figure out.

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<v Speaker 7>I said that years ago, and it was it was pointed,

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<v Speaker 7>it's joy to figure it out that the Eagles can go,

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 7>and I keep bring them up because they just want

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<v Speaker 7>to super bow.

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 6>It is what it is. But they find a way

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<v Speaker 6>to bring everybody into their house.

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.240
<v Speaker 5>And pay them, so we should too, think about it.

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.959
<v Speaker 6>The Lions. The Lions paid pay, pay, pay six people

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<v Speaker 6>within two.

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Months they had all that cap for him though.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey hey we gonna find some hit your buttons.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt, all right, Josh wants to know. Doesn't raise

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 3>question for you that there is an increasing trend of

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<v Speaker 3>more players choosing to not participate at the combine and

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<v Speaker 3>either wait until they're pro day or not work out

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 3>at all. This is the only time we can pretty

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 3>much answer this question. Does that raise any eyebrows or

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 3>questions for you across?

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna let you go because I don't want to

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 8>take nobody off.

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 6>I want to see you compete.

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 7>I think it's uh, I'll call it counter competitive. If

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 7>you don't, you know, you just can't go out and

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 7>run me this. I'm the best, I'm the best rhetoric,

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 7>and I want to show people improving and go, I'm

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 7>not gonna throw to that throw my pro day. If

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 7>you really feel like you're the best, you should just

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 7>line up and go run it for the cardio there. Now, Now,

0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 7>I understand, you know, quarterbacks and Shador and he ain't

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 7>got arm talent and cam war got.

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 6>Thousands of it.

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:45.840
<v Speaker 7>But if you shouldore Leno what you do well and

0:37:45.880 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 7>place the ball better than him, Like, that's just how

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 7>I feel, you know what I'm saying. But football has

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 7>turned more and more into you know, I don't want

0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.640
<v Speaker 7>to say politics or whatever, but like agents have gotten involved,

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 7>and he wants the best pot damn, and he wants

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:02.320
<v Speaker 7>the best possible outcome. That he wants the best possible outcome.

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 7>So hey man, Shador, you know he's gonna throw it

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 7>his pro day where he's most comfortable. I want to

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.759
<v Speaker 7>hear a quarterback say, hey man, I'm comfortable with where

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 7>y'all want to throw the ball at it.

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 6>So you know it is that I'm.

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 4>On the fence.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:18.879
<v Speaker 8>I'm on the fence because I do understand what you're

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 8>saying in regard to the competitiveness and things of that nature.

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 4>But then I also do think I think we've seen guys.

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.279
<v Speaker 8>Go out not maybe not perform well at the Combine,

0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 8>get injured at the Combine.

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 4>But also to there's so many details in what the

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 4>Combine is. It's not just they go show up and play.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a whole week and it's and it's.

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<v Speaker 8>From talking to the players and understanding it. It is

0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 8>a test of their their will and to an extent,

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 8>I mean, there are tactics, there are things that are

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 8>done for them to not here at a certain time

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 8>or work out or go through medicals right away and

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 8>then have to get on the field.

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 4>There's there's little tests.

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.240
<v Speaker 8>That are in there that I think that some players

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 8>just want to x out and I and I don't

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 8>know if it's necessarily a bad thing, because obviously these

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 8>teams are meeting with you, they got meetings, meetings, meetings,

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 8>they got workers, work like, they're doing all these different things.

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 8>I personally kind of understand some of why some of

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 8>these players want to x that out and also to say, hey,

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.640
<v Speaker 8>like I don't want one day to predicate predicate so

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 8>much of what I've done this past year. Although I

0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 8>do understand what you mean when you say that you

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 8>want them to keep compete, but what is what are they?

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:27.279
<v Speaker 4>What's the competitive part there?

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 7>So even if it's not just throw versus throw right,

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 7>I still want just whoever, just my player, to bring

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.720
<v Speaker 7>mental toughness and just show.

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:36.680
<v Speaker 6>Me that you could be mentally.

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:37.959
<v Speaker 5>Touching scientest that sure.

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:41.399
<v Speaker 7>So if you've been running around all day, you ain't

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 7>eight all week. You had to throw here and you

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 7>gotta go get measure. You got to walk around naked,

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 7>and doctors look at you, and you walk in my

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 7>building and I just asked you goofy little questions or

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 7>whatever I want to see you look at man your question. Man,

0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 7>let me answer to your question. Because Dak Prescott is

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 7>one of the most mentally tough people I know, and

0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 7>that that wasn't really a part of my draft evaluation

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:03.399
<v Speaker 7>for real at first. I've grown into that. Even Jayleen Hurst,

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 7>I know it just kind of cracked on a little early,

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 7>but that dude stays even that dude stays cold, you

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 7>know what I'm saying. So I think you know, sure,

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 7>I see your part of it as well, but it's

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 7>just great to know that, man, this dude been walking

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 7>around neked in front of the doctors, even running and

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 7>jumping around, and he stood right here and answered what

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 7>his favorite ice cream is and applied at the football.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 6>I think that's fire.

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 8>No, I agree, And then obviously too, we see guys,

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.600
<v Speaker 8>I remember when we went. You see some guys skip interviews.

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 6>Yep.

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 8>You see some guys not do well let the podium

0:40:33.600 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 8>taking questions, and that does give information as to who

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 8>they are. Especially you talk about the quarterback position, how

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 8>does he handle a crowd? How does he handle all

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 8>of the pressure? And these people come in and I

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 8>get it, But then I also understand that players are

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 8>starting to try to preserve themselves, and it's just like

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 8>who not to say no?

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 6>Plus two, this is Dallas.

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:53.960
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, Facts like no, no, You're

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna deal with it.

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 6>Get ready.

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you do need to get an idea how they

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 8>can handle that stuff.

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 7>Plus I would like to know what time. I'm not

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 7>gonna point in nobody that got drafted recently over the

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 7>last two or three years or whatever. But I would

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 7>just love to know how you handle stress. I would

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 7>love to know just how you handle stress.

0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 3>That's just in general, like in life.

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 6>In life, this will probably never happen to you, but

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:16.160
<v Speaker 6>just how do you have it? You know what I mean.

0:41:16.640 --> 0:41:19.040
<v Speaker 7>I think that's just more important thanform it. If they're

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 7>just gathering information, these coaches and gms and even our

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 7>media guys out there and gals, they just gathered information.

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 8>But also too with a lot of kids going to

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:27.800
<v Speaker 8>their pro day instead.

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 4>I think we have obviously we've.

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 8>Seen an uptick in that in the last couple of years.

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:34.240
<v Speaker 8>It's obviously because it is a more controlled environment.

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 6>Thirty eight yard dashes.

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 4>It's a more controled environment.

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 8>The coaches have more say so you have a better

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 8>idea of what to expect and things like that, and

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 8>it's the familiarity of being in your building and those things.

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 8>So it's hard because it's like, we don't want you familiar,

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 8>we don't want you comfortable. And then it's like, but

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:52.839
<v Speaker 8>then if they're comfortable, maybe they performed well.

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 4>So it's it's it's I'm on the.

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 3>Fence, yeah, Sean, with a question that Shu kind of

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:00.840
<v Speaker 3>goes back to what you guys had the sidebar on

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 3>with os Aigi Zoo a moment ago, which scenario would

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.680
<v Speaker 3>you prefer? And you can only choose one out of

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 3>these two resign Osigi Zua and draft Marcus Harriston from

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky or insert corner on day two here. So whatever

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 3>corner you feel like would fit day two, okay, Or

0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 3>you can re sign Jordan Lewis and draft let's say TJ.

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Sanders or whatever similar defensive tackle from day two that

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 3>you would like to draft.

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 7>So that's the summing that we that we can't sign

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 7>Osa and K and George.

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 3>This is one or the other, or Jy Lou and

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 3>you draft the other's replacement.

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, because I think we're looking at Harston as Nicol.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, tracking.

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.680
<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you what, man, we got a lot of Sanders.

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:48.839
<v Speaker 3>It's like a three tag checking.

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 6>We have a lot of corners.

0:42:49.880 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 7>We've got a lot of tackles, but I think we

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 7>have a lot more ones than threes. So and I love,

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 7>I love Jay Lou depiece, but in this particular situation,

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 7>maybe I'll draft a corner because you can hide that

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 7>a little better and keep my We'll call it a

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 7>dominant three tech or am I ready to go three tech?

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 7>I think if you draft a three tech, I mean,

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 7>unless it's Mason Graham or something.

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 6>We got to talk about. How to hell he's following

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:18.280
<v Speaker 6>down draft bars allegedly.

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:21.879
<v Speaker 7>But unless it's a Mason Graham type character, I don't

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 7>see a three tech that's gonna step in. They want

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 7>to give you something similar, and we're a quasi rebuilding team,

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 7>but we're trying to compete for real, for real, So

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:33.240
<v Speaker 7>I would rather my three tech be grown man body

0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 7>ready to play right now, and we can get a

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 7>corner that I mean because look, because look, even if

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 7>that's the case, we can draft the outside guy and

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:44.360
<v Speaker 7>put blayd a Nickel. You know what I'm saying, Like

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 7>we can like we have options. I feel like we

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 7>have more options at corner than we do at d line.

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:53.280
<v Speaker 3>That's the right answer to me. I think so because

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 3>you have Kaitlin Carson. Sure, the only thing that even

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:58.879
<v Speaker 3>gives me a little bit of pause is the health

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 3>of Trayvon Diggs. Sure, that's the only thing that gives

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 3>me a little bit of pause. But if you're drafting

0:44:02.800 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 3>a Nickel, that doesn't really solve that problem one way

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 3>or the other. You're going to have to address that

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 3>in a different element. So I I yet no doubt,

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:14.359
<v Speaker 3>And I think this isn't just love loss for j Lou.

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 3>It's just the nature of the of the positions that

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about. If you have a dominant pass rushing

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 3>ability from the three tech that Matt Eberflus comes in

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:25.600
<v Speaker 3>and says he's one of the top priorities that we're

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 3>going to try and resign this offseason, then I think

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 3>you go with that and you draft the nickel to learn.

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you drafted Deron Bland as a fifth round

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 3>nickel to learn and he ended up being your boundary

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 3>guy in an all pro in the same sense, so

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 3>you can find it. Does it make me comfortable with

0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 3>the nickel spot. Absolutely not. I would rather have both

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 3>guys back, and I would rather do it. But since

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 3>we're playing this hypothetical scenario or you can only have one,

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 3>which might not be a hypothetical at the end of

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 3>the day, I would take I would take Osa, and

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 3>I would draft the corner.

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 6>Oh is younger too, like what six?

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, this is only his second also being around

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 3>for a four.

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 8>While Yeah, I got a lot of respect for Jordan Lewis.

0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 8>But I also do agree that Listen, I don't know

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 8>how many times we got to.

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 5>See it that if you can win with four, you

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:10.959
<v Speaker 5>can win up.

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 8>Front, then it's gonna make everybody life easier exactly. And

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 8>I think you know, obviously with an EVA flucid system

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:18.160
<v Speaker 8>in the way that he likes to do things, he

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:22.239
<v Speaker 8>expects to get pressure with four and Osa is one

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 8>of those gentlemen that I believe is you know capable

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 8>of that, and you are You ain't got no three texts?

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:28.719
<v Speaker 4>Stop playing these games with me?

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 7>Hey man, Devil's advocate over man Jay Lootens showed up

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 7>at your best corner two years in a row.

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, no doubt.

0:45:36.200 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 4>It's difficult. But also to you talked about the fact

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 4>that you.

0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 8>Can You talked about you can bump dron bland outside.

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:45.799
<v Speaker 8>I know that's not something that people like to see

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 8>often from Jordan Lewis, but he didn't die when you

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 8>asked him to do it.

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:50.800
<v Speaker 4>And don't get it twisted.

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 8>This is what that what that was His original position

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 8>was outside corner.

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it sucks either way. If you're losing Osa, it's

0:45:58.480 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 3>gonna be awful.

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.400
<v Speaker 5>If I'm losing and Jyleen lie down the wall, Yeah.

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:05.319
<v Speaker 3>It's unfortunate. All right, we're taking our second break. When

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.920
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0:46:08.080 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna pair some prospects against each other and see

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.200
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0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:14.480
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<v Speaker 6>And we just walk around outside.

0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:06.839
<v Speaker 3>Walk around outside and you Marty crawl. You go back

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.080
<v Speaker 3>and forth. There's like concrete Cowboy and uh, Tricky Fisher's

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 3>got a bar, Mikosin has got some mambo taxis over there.

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.839
<v Speaker 3>You got a got all, You've got Pietez piano bar,

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 3>sidecar social.

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you gotta throwing beads over there.

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's what it sounds like.

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:23.839
<v Speaker 6>I take my shirt off because bees.

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 7>Please, Like I said, I don't work.

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 6>I don't my car got one button and I ain't

0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:35.479
<v Speaker 6>got five?

0:49:35.640 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Like, yo, what.

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 7>Start and stop? I walk in, I get here, and

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:45.400
<v Speaker 7>I want right right back up. I go through security

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 7>one time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, I like it all right? Before we leave,

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 3>we've got to get some this or that out of

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 3>the way. Let's start at the wide receiver position. Okay,

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 3>let's go with Trey Harris ole miss wide receiver, deep

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:05.359
<v Speaker 3>rad outside receiver true X. Well, let's go with Jaden Higgins.

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Jayden Higgins. Are the two or Trey Harris? Which one

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 3>you got?

0:50:10.920 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 6>I got a three on Tray, I got a full

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:19.320
<v Speaker 6>on Higgins. Both these yeah, both both these characters.

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 7>These gentlemen think both these characters gonna be your X

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 7>receiver type guy, your bigger body type guy. I do

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:30.879
<v Speaker 7>like that Higgins for being so so tall and long

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 7>that he kind of knows how to navigate zones and

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 7>they line them up in the slot a bunch and

0:50:35.040 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 7>and that was off putting to be like a large

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.919
<v Speaker 7>human uh playing playing that. But I was like, hey, man, cool,

0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:43.439
<v Speaker 7>that's impressed. But going to do that though, they're gonna

0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 7>want to do it. But I just think Trey Harris

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 7>what he does well. I just think he does better.

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.879
<v Speaker 7>And that's as like physical dude, Uh you know, get

0:50:51.880 --> 0:50:54.360
<v Speaker 7>some yac after a catch or just jump over somebody.

0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:56.719
<v Speaker 7>I think Trey does that really really well, and he

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 7>kind of got a black belt in that. Neither one

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.120
<v Speaker 7>of them gonna run really well. I think Higgins might

0:51:01.200 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 7>run better than Trey. But you know, if I had

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:05.840
<v Speaker 7>to pick, I got a four on Higgins in a

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:07.959
<v Speaker 7>three on trace. So being a fair to my board, I'm.

0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 8>Taking yeah, I would agree with your evaluation of Trey

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:15.640
<v Speaker 8>Harris a six three two ten. You mentioned the ability

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 8>to you know, track the ball in the air, the

0:51:17.239 --> 0:51:21.760
<v Speaker 8>big playability. This is a red zone threat and uh,

0:51:22.280 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 8>he's he's also versatile to as well, though, like he's

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 8>a guy that now they do some inside out with

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:29.600
<v Speaker 8>him as well. Obviously you see the catch radius. I

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:31.799
<v Speaker 8>love the way he snatches the ball out the air.

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:34.400
<v Speaker 8>I love a receiver that snatches the ball out of

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 8>the year with an intent. I I also feel like

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:40.839
<v Speaker 8>you can see him set up dbats. You see him

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:43.439
<v Speaker 8>reading the dB That's something that I haven't I didn't

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.439
<v Speaker 8>see as much from a Higgins. Obviously, like you said,

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:50.360
<v Speaker 8>they're both contested catchers. I think the Higgins is a

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 8>little bit more fluid as far as like just.

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 4>The movement looks weird.

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:58.040
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, just as a as a route runner. Trey Harris

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 8>can look a little choppy sometimes, but he's effective. Like

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:05.120
<v Speaker 8>he's effective, and he was very productive of Jayden Higgins

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:07.120
<v Speaker 8>at Iowa State, and I thought he had some good

0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 8>days at the Senior Bowl. But I would be going

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.440
<v Speaker 8>with Trey Harris as well in this situation just because

0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:14.480
<v Speaker 8>of some of the consistency, more importantly, the yack ability.

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 8>Is there a little bit more there with him as

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 8>well to.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, So I'm gonna go with Trey Harris. I think

0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 3>both these guys are great. I've got a four on Higgins.

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 3>With Harris, I'm call me crazy. Go ahead. I think

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 3>he's a top five receiver in this dress crazy, call

0:52:28.560 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 3>me crazy.

0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 8>And it goes back to this, some people really like

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 8>him like that though it.

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Comes to the it comes to the ceiling conversation we

0:52:36.200 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 3>had earlier. Right, So, when I'm looking at Trey Harris,

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at a guy that has the ability with

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:44.319
<v Speaker 3>breakaway speed decent but not perfect route running. But what

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 3>can you teach at the NFL level footwork and route

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 3>running to something that area. I see Trey Harris as

0:52:52.400 --> 0:52:54.759
<v Speaker 3>having all of those trades, all of those tools, and

0:52:54.800 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 3>the one knock he didn't have is he didn't necessarily

0:52:57.760 --> 0:52:59.799
<v Speaker 3>have a full season to put it all together because

0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:02.440
<v Speaker 3>he's got some medical red flags. I think if he

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:06.360
<v Speaker 3>didn't have the wide or the excuse me, the lengthy

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:09.720
<v Speaker 3>time off and the sporadic injuries that he had throughout

0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:12.439
<v Speaker 3>his final two years in Oxford, I think we're talking

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:14.439
<v Speaker 3>about him as a first round wide receiver.

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:17.879
<v Speaker 8>And the body control is there, But I I want

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 8>to ask you to do you guys think now? I

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:24.320
<v Speaker 8>feel like the last couple of years, the X receiver

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 8>to me is starting to become goal. It's starting to go, but.

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:32.239
<v Speaker 4>It's went away.

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 8>But I will say within this draft there's a few

0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 8>more than we've seen in previous drafts. Do you think

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 8>that's gonna possibly affect Like we're talking about Trey Harris,

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 8>you're saying you got a third on him, Yeah, because

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 8>of the demand for having an X receiver again, if

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:49.200
<v Speaker 8>someone wants to go that route, do you think that

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:51.959
<v Speaker 8>that could play into any of these ex receivers going

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:52.839
<v Speaker 8>up or down?

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think it does because it kind of goes

0:53:55.440 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 3>back to running back in the draft like this, where

0:53:57.200 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 3>you've got a running back class, some teams might be

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:01.839
<v Speaker 3>willing to wait because they know they can snag one

0:54:01.920 --> 0:54:04.200
<v Speaker 3>later X receiver that you don't have those guys. You

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 3>got a lot of small receivers again, kind of like

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 3>the last couple of drafts, and we've seen it before

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 3>that these bigger, more physical outside receivers will go earlier

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:17.600
<v Speaker 3>than we anticipated. I'm thinking back to Michael Pittman a

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 3>couple of years ago out of in the USC good player.

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:23.279
<v Speaker 3>Was he a first round talented player? It depends on

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:25.840
<v Speaker 3>who you talked to, but he ended up going earlier

0:54:25.880 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 3>than anticipated because he's got big body to X receiver.

0:54:28.719 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Did he actually work out in the NFL? I mean,

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.280
<v Speaker 3>he's had a decent career, He's been pretty good at times,

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:37.320
<v Speaker 3>he's battled some injuries. But I see that same level

0:54:37.520 --> 0:54:40.400
<v Speaker 3>of impact from these extracities, Like.

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 7>It's just a name a few of them. You got McMillan, Beish,

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:48.279
<v Speaker 7>williams Ao Manner depend on if you really feel like

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 7>you know, feel about him in that way, Trey Harris,

0:54:50.600 --> 0:54:53.520
<v Speaker 7>pet Bryant and Higgins. So those are my exes, like

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 7>my true exes, not like move guys that can play xes,

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 7>but like Matthew Golden is a move guy, but he

0:54:58.520 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 7>can't play it.

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:01.880
<v Speaker 3>He can't with Burden from Missouri.

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:05.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but as far as true to your point, since this,

0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:07.880
<v Speaker 7>you know, since we don't always get true exes, they

0:55:07.920 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 7>may they may run this year sol fair enough.

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah, I'm a little higher on Trey Harris

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.359
<v Speaker 3>than I think most people probably are. I would put

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:17.880
<v Speaker 3>him in the I would be okay drafting him at

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 3>forty four. That would be perfect value for me.

0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:22.440
<v Speaker 8>Honestly from some of the articles I read and stuff,

0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:24.520
<v Speaker 8>there are some people who are high on him, so

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 8>I'm not surprised.

0:55:25.600 --> 0:55:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I think if he wasn't hurt, he would be in

0:55:27.480 --> 0:55:30.719
<v Speaker 3>the conversation with not with McMillan. I think he's far

0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:32.800
<v Speaker 3>and away my favorite receiver of this draft. But I

0:55:32.800 --> 0:55:34.840
<v Speaker 3>would put him right there with Burden. I'm not going

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 3>to do that because I think there's still parts of

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 3>his game that are are unpolished. And if you're talking

0:55:40.200 --> 0:55:43.359
<v Speaker 3>about Burden, he's a polished receiver, So that's a different one,

0:55:43.400 --> 0:55:47.520
<v Speaker 3>all right. Second, this or that of the day, we've

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 3>got Josh Farmer or Omar Norman Lott a couple of

0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:55.880
<v Speaker 3>defensive tackles here to go with. What do you think, fotch?

0:55:57.239 --> 0:56:01.080
<v Speaker 7>Josh Farmer got so many tools and boy, it's just

0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 7>come down all you floor guy's ceiling guy man Omar

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:05.520
<v Speaker 7>Omar Okay, So let me say this.

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:07.759
<v Speaker 3>They both are armored by the way from Florida state

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.080
<v Speaker 3>to state, and Omar Norman Lot is from Tennessee.

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 6>So they both are.

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:17.920
<v Speaker 7>Get off the ball guys, first step guys, disruptors, penetrators.

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 7>They're probably going to be gap guys. Three texts where

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:24.319
<v Speaker 7>they're kind of different. What goes into my conversation, right,

0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:27.760
<v Speaker 7>Omar Norman Lot. I think he has a better feel

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 7>for the nuance of what his job is going to

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 7>be like. His job is going to be most likely

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:34.879
<v Speaker 7>pass rusher, and he knows how to kind of work

0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:37.759
<v Speaker 7>his hands a little bit better. Josh Farmer, who has

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 7>more tools than most of these guys as far as

0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 7>size lengthy's powerful. He don't use his hands at all.

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:48.279
<v Speaker 7>So Josh Farmer is full blown ceiling guy.

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:51.440
<v Speaker 3>To me, strong sixty three three fifteen is what he

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 3>measured measured in at the combine.

0:56:54.360 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 7>He is toosy arm length and everything, but he's chicken

0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:00.920
<v Speaker 7>winging people, and chicken wing is a real life football term.

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 6>Trust me.

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:03.799
<v Speaker 7>He's out there chicken winging people, but he's whipping people

0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 7>chicken winging people, and he's gotten more and more sacks

0:57:06.440 --> 0:57:10.799
<v Speaker 7>every single season. It's a teachable chicken winging. We we

0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 7>think that's what I'm saying you. Unless you're gonna go

0:57:13.680 --> 0:57:15.360
<v Speaker 7>to the league and be a dude that chicken wings

0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:17.680
<v Speaker 7>for ten years or whatever, that's the that's the the

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 7>dice road that you that you end up with. So

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 7>Farmer incredibly talented. If you got a coach that can

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:26.440
<v Speaker 7>teach him how to extend so that he can use

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 7>some of those long arms and hell yeah, man, you

0:57:28.280 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 7>on something. And I think once he figures out how

0:57:30.320 --> 0:57:32.000
<v Speaker 7>to use the arm length, I think he'll be even

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:35.040
<v Speaker 7>better versus run, even better disruptor and he'll start to

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:37.040
<v Speaker 7>use his length and separated. Maybe you could teach him

0:57:37.040 --> 0:57:39.360
<v Speaker 7>how to two gap if you like. But right now

0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:41.439
<v Speaker 7>he's chicken winging. He's getting chests to chess with guys

0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:43.240
<v Speaker 7>because he's just running down the middle of him Almar

0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:45.240
<v Speaker 7>Norman Lot he knows how to pass rush he knows

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:45.880
<v Speaker 7>how to get busy.

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 6>He knows exactly what it is that he.

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:51.000
<v Speaker 7>You know, like his role amongst that D line and

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:53.240
<v Speaker 7>Tennessee got some weird numbers on that line, just Jersey

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:56.800
<v Speaker 7>numbers or whatever. But anyway, I got Norman Lott in

0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.200
<v Speaker 7>the third round and I have Farmer.

0:57:58.960 --> 0:57:59.440
<v Speaker 6>In the fourth.

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:00.680
<v Speaker 3>But I have both of those.

0:58:00.760 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 7>But if Farmer was not a chicken wing guy, he

0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 7>could be a second round guy.

0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:04.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:06.520
<v Speaker 8>I mean you mentioned the fact that both of them

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:09.000
<v Speaker 8>are get off guys, very disruptive.

0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:12.520
<v Speaker 4>But with Norman, is it Norman lot Yeah, with him,

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 4>got to.

0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:15.520
<v Speaker 8>See him at the senior boat, and obviously the get

0:58:15.560 --> 0:58:17.520
<v Speaker 8>off is there. But I was looking at the fact

0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 8>that I think the change of direction to me is

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 8>better than Farmers in my opinion, I think some of

0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:25.760
<v Speaker 8>the lateral quickness is a little bit better. This gentleman

0:58:25.840 --> 0:58:28.920
<v Speaker 8>just has the ability to ruin your interiors day.

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:29.760
<v Speaker 4>And obviously too.

0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 8>Something that I want to point out was then when

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:34.520
<v Speaker 8>he was in Tennessee, he was playing behind quite a bit.

0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 4>Of depth, so he did what he did.

0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:39.800
<v Speaker 8>As far as his productiveness, I believe he had close

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 8>to like a twenty two percent pressure rate on limited

0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:45.040
<v Speaker 8>snaps when you talk about.

0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 4>Ceiling and all that stuff.

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.439
<v Speaker 8>I'd look at him and I look at the fact

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:53.000
<v Speaker 8>that this is a guy that you can continue to develop,

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:55.320
<v Speaker 8>like you were saying, Vatch, but also too, like the

0:58:55.360 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 8>motor is legit and it's not scared of no mileage.

0:58:58.160 --> 0:58:59.560
<v Speaker 3>I think both of these guys have good motors.

0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 8>Yes, but I wrote down here I said that he's

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 8>a natural pass rusher.

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<v Speaker 4>It is natural, it.

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<v Speaker 8>Doesn't look and again Josh Farmer, heyes, very smooth, and

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<v Speaker 8>Josh Farmer is versatile and all those good things. And

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<v Speaker 8>I think because of his size and the feet, like

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<v Speaker 8>the feet, he's able to be sudden.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that if you're trying.

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<v Speaker 8>To look for maybe some longevity and be able to

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<v Speaker 8>develop more tools, I would go with a Norman lot

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<v Speaker 8>as well. But Josh Farmer is not nobody the snuff

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<v Speaker 8>at and we already know that FSU pushes out good

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<v Speaker 8>defensive lineman. I was seeing some of the things he

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<v Speaker 8>was doing where it looked like he was almost like

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<v Speaker 8>jump cutting himself to make tackles, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 8>what am I looking at right now? You're a defensive tackle, fantastic,

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<v Speaker 8>You're a huge human so anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I would go I would agree.

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<v Speaker 8>With you on Norman lot, but Josh Farmer's not far behind.

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<v Speaker 8>And I do think if somebody gets ahold of them,

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<v Speaker 8>they're going to be able to really impact his hands

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<v Speaker 8>in his toolbox.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you were saying.

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<v Speaker 7>And Farmer, I think he has the size and the

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<v Speaker 7>bulk or whatever to place once take if you need it.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, Norman, that's probably going to be a guy

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<v Speaker 7>that's not going to be an eight gap too much.

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<v Speaker 6>But maybe you go line up at five.

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<v Speaker 8>And maybe that and maybe that boosts Farmers. I think

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<v Speaker 8>maybe that boosts him because a nose, a guy being

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<v Speaker 8>able to play nose, and then a guy being able

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<v Speaker 8>to play like you know, the three and four, that's

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<v Speaker 8>something different. I don't know how many noses true noses

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<v Speaker 8>do y'all think is in this draft?

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<v Speaker 6>True noses?

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<v Speaker 7>So you know what I don't. I don't think the

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<v Speaker 7>three hundred and fifty pound nose exists anymore.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and that's what's the defenses don't want to get.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's a whole other thing.

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<v Speaker 8>So that that's why I think that a guy like

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<v Speaker 8>Josh Farmer, even though we're talking about a lot like oh,

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<v Speaker 8>well he has this, this, this, but he might be

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<v Speaker 8>more valuable. Some teams might look at Josh Farmer and

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<v Speaker 8>be like, I can line him up virtually anywhere.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sure, that's valuable.

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<v Speaker 6>He got that weight technically.

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<v Speaker 7>Graham, Grant, Williams and Harmon are noses, but they're athletic

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<v Speaker 7>enough to go play.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't say that's like a true nose. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I could play three, they could play. They can push

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<v Speaker 3>them out to a five. If you want to.

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<v Speaker 7>Trash cans doon't exist normal, trashcanflid dirt. Guys on exist normal.

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Quentin Bohanna, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 4>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a fun Joe fun show. You want to

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<v Speaker 3>do it again Thursday. Yeah, let's do it again Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be back at eleven am Central time. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit about who you should expect to tear

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<v Speaker 3>up the combine, who are some of the guys that

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<v Speaker 3>we're keeping an eye on whenever they hit the field

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<v Speaker 3>in Indianapolis. And then continue to send in your draft questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Vach Lombardi, Ayusha Morrison myself always answering those on Twitter

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<v Speaker 3>on the twenty. That does it for us here from

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<v Speaker 3>the Draft Show Special. Thanks to Chris Beam in the

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<v Speaker 3>back for getting up all.

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<v Speaker 7>Show today.

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