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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and Jackie and now he Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>I am saying this because I'm really afraid that my

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<v Speaker 3>country's going to be further weakened by this. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to see the end of American empire. Obviously

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<v Speaker 3>other nations would like to see that, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>a perfect way to scuttle the USS America on the

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<v Speaker 3>shoals of Iran, but it's also going to end, I believe,

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's presidency and effectively end it.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump responded to Tucker Carlson, call him kooky, and nobody

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<v Speaker 4>knows what he said, get a TV show. I think

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<v Speaker 4>he said Tucker has got way bigger following than if

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<v Speaker 4>he had a TV show. Actually, so if he had

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<v Speaker 4>a TV show, it would be very popular and he

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<v Speaker 4>would have his following online, so he would be bigger maybe,

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<v Speaker 4>But he's better. He's bigger than any of the current

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<v Speaker 4>TV shows out there.

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<v Speaker 2>He just is. It's just statistically true.

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<v Speaker 4>So this segment, we're going to really get into the

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<v Speaker 4>whole various shades of MAGA and that whole thing, And

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<v Speaker 4>is Trump betraying America first by wanting to go to

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<v Speaker 4>war with Iran, which he seems to be hell bent on,

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm I think he's right. And for instance, here's

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<v Speaker 4>Tulcy Gabbard in a hearing a little while back saying

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<v Speaker 4>Iran's not going to get a bomb.

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<v Speaker 1>The ICY continues to assess that Iran is not building

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear weapon, and Supreme Leader Kamani has not authorized

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<v Speaker 1>the nuclear weapons program that he suspended in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and three. The ICY continues to monitor closely if Tehran

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<v Speaker 1>decides to reauthorize its nuclear weapons program.

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<v Speaker 4>So I see the international community, that intelligence community, intelligence community. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's right. But anyway, here Trump was

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<v Speaker 4>asking about delusion. Yeah, here's Trump responding to his DNI,

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<v Speaker 4>the Director of National Intelligence, she has access to everything,

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<v Speaker 4>saying Iran's not about to get a bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what Trump says about that. How close do you

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<v Speaker 2>personally think that they were to get it on?

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<v Speaker 5>Because Tulsa Gartt testified at March the intelligence community said

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<v Speaker 5>Ran wasn't going into pure beverage.

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<v Speaker 2>What she said, I think they.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump says, I don't care what she said when she

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<v Speaker 4>testified that Iran's not closing to getting above Trump decided.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're very close to having one.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, yeah, So he's speaking about the intelligence around

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<v Speaker 4>the most important issue right now, in the biggest decision

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<v Speaker 4>of his entire presidency. The first person you would go

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<v Speaker 4>to would be the DNIS. Like I said, they have

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<v Speaker 4>access to all of it in all the different departments.

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<v Speaker 4>And he says, I don't care what she said because

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<v Speaker 4>she's wrong, right, He's basically just saying, I mean he's

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<v Speaker 4>he's basically saying, she's part of that non interventionists don't

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<v Speaker 4>ever attack anybody crowd that I kind of catered to.

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<v Speaker 5>But in this case, I don't believe is right. She

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<v Speaker 5>cannot be in her job a week from now.

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<v Speaker 4>But just to make it more complicated, I would agree

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<v Speaker 4>to make it more complicated. You got John Fetterman, Democratic Senator,

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<v Speaker 4>arguing that supporting Israel and taking down the regime in

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<v Speaker 4>Iran will be the key to lasting piece in Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>He's pro regime change, not just.

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<v Speaker 4>Bombing, but regime change, which of course is a dirty

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<v Speaker 4>phrase for a lot of people after.

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<v Speaker 2>Iraq, which I saw somebody point out earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a whole bunch of hosts on cable news

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<v Speaker 4>who are four years old when the regime change in

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<v Speaker 4>Iraq has because that was twenty three years ago, twenty

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<v Speaker 4>two years ago. So if you're twenty eight, you were

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<v Speaker 4>five when that happens. On it's say, it's history to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Another interesting wrinkle from Who's Where on Politics and Weird

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<v Speaker 4>Bedfellows Josh Rogan, who we generally really like, although I

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<v Speaker 4>don't agree with everything he said a lot from The

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<v Speaker 4>Washington Post said, if Trump attacks Iran based on a

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<v Speaker 4>flimsy claim of preemption, what after running on a foreign

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<v Speaker 4>policy criticizing Bush for attacking a raq on a flimsy

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<v Speaker 4>claim of preemption, he either has no core principles or

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<v Speaker 4>has no clue what he's doing, or both scary times,

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<v Speaker 4>How is it think comparing.

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<v Speaker 2>Those two is? It's a canard, It's not accurate.

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<v Speaker 4>How the hell is it a flimsy claim of preemption

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<v Speaker 4>when the IAEA and everybody has been reporting that they're

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<v Speaker 4>very close to getting a.

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<v Speaker 5>Bomb, When both the Ayatola and the chief negotiator of

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<v Speaker 5>Haran said one thing we're not going to give up

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<v Speaker 5>is enrichment. You don't enrich uranium to get the light

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<v Speaker 5>bulbs to light up and have civilian electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>You do it to build a nuclear weapon. Period. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if Josh is off his rock or what,

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<v Speaker 5>but I completely disagree with him on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I will concede this point.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's a the idea that this could lead to

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<v Speaker 5>regime change in Iran than what?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 5>What is a penny door's box of Middle East style?

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<v Speaker 5>God help us?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have to? Well, Iran can't have the bomb.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's the bottom line, and that's what makes the

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<v Speaker 4>decision easier. No matter what happens, there's nothing that is

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<v Speaker 4>worse than letting them get a nuclear weapon, is there?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the question I think. I don't think it's possible.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't even imagine a scenario that would be worse

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<v Speaker 4>than Iran getting the bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker Carlson disagrees with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Even if it devolved into full Iraq chaos, which I

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<v Speaker 4>seems incredibly unlikely to me, that would be better, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>it than Iran getting a nuclear weapon?

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<v Speaker 5>Depends who ends up in charge. You know what happens

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<v Speaker 5>five ten years down the line. But no, I agree

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<v Speaker 5>with you. It's not an open and shutcase. But I agree.

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<v Speaker 5>A couple of notes very quickly from the online world.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, I came across this the great David Berg,

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<v Speaker 5>Iowahawk blogger. The worst consequence of the Internet is the

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<v Speaker 5>almost universal delusion that your opinions are shared by the majority.

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<v Speaker 5>Once again, the worst consequence of the Internet is an

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<v Speaker 5>almost universal delusion that your opinions are shared.

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<v Speaker 2>By the majority.

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<v Speaker 5>It's even worse than that, though, David, It's that my

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<v Speaker 5>opinions are shared by enough people that they're right anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>He says. The countdown of the top four sufferers of

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<v Speaker 5>acute delusions of popularity Number four, transactivists number three true

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<v Speaker 5>uh yeah, no kidding, and then the stupid idiot corporations

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<v Speaker 5>that believe that well they had the media in education

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<v Speaker 5>too anyway. Moving along, Number three Neo Nazi podcast bros.

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<v Speaker 5>Number two campus garbage babies.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a garbage baby?

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<v Speaker 5>It's your It's I don't know, it's your campus cafea

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<v Speaker 5>wearing dopes.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one Caitlin Clark haters.

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<v Speaker 5>An He mentions, there's this weird cult of paleo WNBA

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<v Speaker 5>fans who are literally trying to organize a boycott for

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<v Speaker 5>people to not watch games featuring Caitlin Clark.

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<v Speaker 2>Good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 5>That is the reason I bring that up is that's

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<v Speaker 5>a pretty good encapsulation of the Internet. It's an echo

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<v Speaker 5>chamber for everyone, no matter how stupid their opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>And the algorithms.

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<v Speaker 4>Algorithms are built to feed you people that agree with you,

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<v Speaker 4>to help reinforce it.

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<v Speaker 5>The whole for you, you know, section at Twitter for instance.

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<v Speaker 5>So anyway, as Maga America is at each other's throats

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<v Speaker 5>over the whole helping Israel thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Jacob, I gotta jump in on that because you just

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<v Speaker 4>said this drives me crazy. This is just the way

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<v Speaker 4>politics works. But you always claim that the other side

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<v Speaker 4>is doing something unique to them and it doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 4>with you. I watch MSNBC and CNNA fair amount lots

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<v Speaker 4>of discussion about the civil war within the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 4>and how was a problem from the get go that

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<v Speaker 4>the magamum Maga movement is a coalition of different groups

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<v Speaker 4>that don't agree and it's coming apart and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you gonna tell me the Democratic Party hasn't been

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<v Speaker 4>a coalition of groups that don't agree forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, give me a break.

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<v Speaker 5>Virtually every political party, every political party, yes, but the

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<v Speaker 5>Democrats especially. Oh yeah, yeah, what a trans people have

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<v Speaker 5>to do with militant Muslims in Hamtramck, Michigan, for instance,

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<v Speaker 5>church going boy in the same party. That's what they

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<v Speaker 5>have in common. Yeah, church go will go ahead and

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<v Speaker 5>finish that up.

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<v Speaker 4>Church going black women who are the least likely to

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<v Speaker 4>support any of this trans stuff, or even gay marriage

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<v Speaker 4>for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>With all the other people with queers for Palestine, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>in the same political party.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, okay, Union leaders who had to hate illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's all kinds of examples, so really interesting

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<v Speaker 5>study of how this works. Jade Vance is just tweeted, Look,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm seeing this from the inside and admittedly biased towards

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<v Speaker 5>our president and my friend, but there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>crazy stuff on social media, so I want to address

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<v Speaker 5>some things directly on the Iran issue. Then he gets

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<v Speaker 5>into the whole enrichment thing and he says is he

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<v Speaker 5>said repeatedly this would happen one of two ways they

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<v Speaker 5>can't have I'm sorry. First, Potus has been amazingly consistent

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<v Speaker 5>over ten years that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 5>Over the last few months, he encouraged his foreign policy

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<v Speaker 5>team to reach a deal with the Uranians to accomplish

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<v Speaker 5>this goal. The President has made clear that Iran cannot

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<v Speaker 5>have uranium enrichment, and he said repeatedly that this would

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<v Speaker 5>happen one of two ways, the easy way or the

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<v Speaker 5>other way. And then he gets into the whole enrichment question,

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<v Speaker 5>which we've already dealt with. It's one thing to want

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<v Speaker 5>civilian energy. It's another thing to demand sophisticated enrichment capability.

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<v Speaker 5>It's still another thing to cling to enrichment while simultaneously

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<v Speaker 5>violating basic non proliferation obligations and enriching right to the

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<v Speaker 5>point of weapons grade uranium. Josh Rogan, I've yet to

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<v Speaker 5>see a single good argument for why Iran needs to

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<v Speaker 5>enrich uranium well above the threshold for civilian use. I've

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<v Speaker 5>yet to see a single good argument for why Iran

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<v Speaker 5>was justified in violating his non proliferation obligations. I've yet

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<v Speaker 5>to see a single good pushback against the IAEA's findings. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 5>the President has shown remarkable restraint in keeping our militaries

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<v Speaker 5>focused on protecting our troops and protecting our citizens. He

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<v Speaker 5>may decide he needs to take further action and Iranian enrichment.

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<v Speaker 5>That decision belongs to the president. And of course people

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<v Speaker 5>are right to be worried about foreign entanglements after the

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<v Speaker 5>last twenty five years of idiotic foreign policy tippiness.

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<v Speaker 2>Gap toward that crowd, which.

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<v Speaker 5>Is fine, it's a good point, But I believe the

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<v Speaker 5>president has earned some trust on this issue. Having seen

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<v Speaker 5>this up close and personal, I can assure you that

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<v Speaker 5>he is only interested in using the American military to

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<v Speaker 5>accomplish the American people's goals.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever he does, that is his focus. And so that

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>But the reaction, including some pretty significant accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>One guy says, yeah, it makes sense to me. Death

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<v Speaker 2>to America. He can't get away with it. Then this other.

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<v Speaker 5>Blue check mark Twitter account, he has a bunch of

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<v Speaker 5>tweets over the ears from Trump's from Trump in order

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<v Speaker 5>to get elected, Barack Obama will start a war with Iran.

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<v Speaker 5>Barack Obama will attack Iran in order to get reelected.

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<v Speaker 5>A year later, I've predicted President Obama will at some

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<v Speaker 5>point attack Iran in order to save face.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a list of them that he shows.

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<v Speaker 5>That's interesting, nice words, but it's still another war in

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<v Speaker 5>the Middle East provoked by the Israelis.

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<v Speaker 2>That will suck up a lot of resources.

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<v Speaker 5>People are just tired of seeing Israel first, not America first.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>So that other stuff about how he criticized Obama or

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<v Speaker 4>Bush forgetting US involved in wars, Okay, fine, leave that

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<v Speaker 4>to political historians or something. Let's get back to the

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<v Speaker 4>bottom line we started with. Iran can't have a nuclear weapon.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care who said whatever, doesn't make any difference.

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<v Speaker 4>Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. Now the President coming

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<v Speaker 4>out yesterday and saying, look, I invented America first, I

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<v Speaker 4>get to define it. It is America first to stop

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<v Speaker 4>around from getting a nuclear weapon. I Jack Armstrong agree

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<v Speaker 4>with that position.

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<v Speaker 2>JD.

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<v Speaker 4>Van and he doesn't need ever run again. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if he loses a chunk of people whatever JD. Vance

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<v Speaker 4>is in a different situation, he can't lose that hole.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't get involved in war'st crowd if he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to run for president in a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Interesting, The only pushback to JD that I've seen on

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<v Speaker 5>the IAEA thing saying that Iran is clearly trying as

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<v Speaker 5>fast as they can to get a nuke that's the

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<v Speaker 5>fing UN's conclusion. So JD says, I haven't seen a

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<v Speaker 5>single good pushback, and somebody says it was contrary to

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<v Speaker 5>what our own DNI says. Can you help clarify? Well, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Telsey Gabbard in March test. If I know they're not,

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<v Speaker 5>she's going to be gone by the end of the week.

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<v Speaker 4>So you take the word of Telsey Gabbard over the president.

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<v Speaker 4>I do know from that crowd though, because I know

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of people personally that a part of the

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<v Speaker 4>you know, maybe some of you, the Tucker, Candice Owens,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever crowd, Alex Jones, which we're about to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>They think I've had a person tell me this to

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<v Speaker 2>my face.

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<v Speaker 4>It proves that Trump is on the Epstein list and

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<v Speaker 4>they have information about him that he has now flipped

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<v Speaker 4>and had to go the other direction.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I don't even have time to refute that because

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<v Speaker 5>the people that hold the cards on the whole Epstein

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<v Speaker 5>thing have him dangling at the end of their puppet strings.

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<v Speaker 5>You are being manipulated by people who are smarter than you,

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<v Speaker 5>that know how to trip your trigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I know that's hurtful.

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<v Speaker 5>It's much easier to fools people than to convince them

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<v Speaker 5>they're being fooled, but they.

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<v Speaker 4>Are anyway going to get to some text four one, five,

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<v Speaker 4>two nine five k FTC you today with a decent

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<v Speaker 4>chance of drones driving. That's the Iranian NewsCap series.

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<v Speaker 2>In the middle of her uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Her report on the latest stoning at the soccer stadium

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever she was doing the Iranian news and the

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<v Speaker 4>drone hit from a Iran from Israel.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm enjoying some of the memes. It sounded like angry

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<v Speaker 5>ranting about how you will now we all not bow

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<v Speaker 5>to you. Alla will protect us, No bomb will reach us.

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<v Speaker 2>Kerbloey.

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<v Speaker 4>So we got a number of texts very interesting on

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<v Speaker 4>this topic of going to war with Iran or not.

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<v Speaker 4>I taken a decent amount of Candace Owens and Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Rogan and they are not saying Trump is doing this

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<v Speaker 4>due to the Epstein list. I just said, I know

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<v Speaker 4>two people that follow that world of Candas Owans and

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<v Speaker 4>Tucker Carlson and they and they have said that. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's interesting to me that this person lumps Candas Owens

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<v Speaker 4>and Joe Rogan together. I don't see that at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Rogan has those people on. But I've never got

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<v Speaker 4>the sense that he believes everything they say. Another text,

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<v Speaker 4>After trillion's and dollar dollars and thousands of lives wasted

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<v Speaker 4>over the years in Iraq and Afghanistan, you're really this

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<v Speaker 4>hung gung ho about the US jumping into the fray

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<v Speaker 4>and doing a repeat in Iran a repeat. The repeat

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<v Speaker 4>would be there were no weapons of mass destruction. So

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<v Speaker 4>you think there are no there's no nuclear program or

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>And you think Donald Trump's going to try to install

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<v Speaker 5>a Jeffersonian democracy in Iraq, like George w did, No.

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<v Speaker 5>I reject your premise. It's a dumb question.

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<v Speaker 4>Next, Alex Jones just tweeted out a picture of him

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<v Speaker 4>and Tucker as he was on Tucker's show. I am

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<v Speaker 4>proud that Tucker Carlson is standing his ground against the psychotic,

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<v Speaker 4>warmongering neo cons that have brought the world to the

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<v Speaker 4>verge of thermo nuclear armageddon.

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<v Speaker 5>By preventing Iran from having a new exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yes, we're bringing the world to the edge of

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<v Speaker 4>a nuclear war the country that doesn't have nukes because

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<v Speaker 4>we're stopping them from getting news.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly is that they've been making that plea about Russia

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<v Speaker 5>and Ukraine too.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and Russia does have nukes obviously, does Alex Jones

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<v Speaker 4>and Tucker Carlson do they believe that? Do they believe

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<v Speaker 4>things would be fine if you let a Ran get

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<v Speaker 4>a nuclear weapon?

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Alex Jones, in his famous lawsuit his trial, had to

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<v Speaker 5>admit that, look, I say all sorts of stuff. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't believe that's true. He did say that, right. Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like I'm playing a character. Yeah, I'm playing a character.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm pandering to a certain set of people who want

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<v Speaker 5>to believe certain things. So I tell them what they

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<v Speaker 5>want to believe, and I sell enormous amounts of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>subscriptions and advertising in the rest of that to them.

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<v Speaker 5>Now again, as I said the other hour, I guess

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<v Speaker 5>there are some people. I think our ninety percent grifter

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<v Speaker 5>and ten percent sincere, there's someho or the other, or

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<v Speaker 5>even one hundred percent since here.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just misguided and wrong. Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>It'd be interesting to see how this plays out over

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<v Speaker 4>the next couple of days, because it's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna happen, Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 6>Given the fact that Israel and Iran you're engaged in

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<v Speaker 6>a very active conflict right now in the short term,

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<v Speaker 6>How do you declare victory? What is or defined victory?

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<v Speaker 6>What is your definition of victory?

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<v Speaker 4>Right now?

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<v Speaker 7>The ability to destroy Israel through nuclear weapons and ballistic

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<v Speaker 7>missiles is eliminator.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the victory. That's our victory.

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<v Speaker 7>And if the people in Iran then choose a different government,

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<v Speaker 7>it's going to be great for the entire Middle East

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<v Speaker 7>and really for the world, because the people of the

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<v Speaker 7>Middle East want normalization with Israel and Israel wants nothing

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<v Speaker 7>more than normalization with its neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an open question.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we went through the air spring just because

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<v Speaker 4>the regime has changed. The one that replaces it might

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<v Speaker 4>not be better for the world, So you can't state

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<v Speaker 4>that openly. But the idea that this ends when they

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<v Speaker 4>no longer can have a nuke that makes good sense

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<v Speaker 4>to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, your whole regime change statement is absolutely true

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<v Speaker 5>because we have made that statement to in reference to

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<v Speaker 5>you know, people who think you can like boot out

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<v Speaker 5>to the United States government or something and it'll become

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<v Speaker 5>this paradise or that paradise Marxist or whatever. Now, the

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<v Speaker 5>history of that sort of thing is bad. You destabilize things,

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<v Speaker 5>and the power vacuum can suck something even worse into

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<v Speaker 5>the seats of power, over and over again.

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<v Speaker 4>See France from seventeen eighty nine until Napoleon arrived.

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<v Speaker 5>And so the guy who asked is somewhat bligerent question

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<v Speaker 5>before the break that I answered rudely and dismissively. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure he's thinking, well, wait a minute, you're making my

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<v Speaker 5>point for me. Would you like to reset that briefly?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember it was about I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, the guy said, oh, so you wanna you want

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<v Speaker 5>to do another iraq? Hey, you want to get sucked

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<v Speaker 5>into another you know, quagmire of a just replicate a

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<v Speaker 5>rock and uh And I wish you had that in

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<v Speaker 5>front of you, because it was asked in the typical

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<v Speaker 5>online belligerent This is simple and if you don't get

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<v Speaker 5>this your stupid way, which is why I responded in

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<v Speaker 5>a yeah, you're stupid way. If I were to ask

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<v Speaker 5>that question more uh, reasonably and intelligently, it would be Dudes,

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<v Speaker 5>in what ways do you believe this is a different

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<v Speaker 5>situation than the weapons of mass destruction in a rock

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<v Speaker 5>or given the experience of a rock how can you

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<v Speaker 5>advocate for attacking Iran?

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<v Speaker 2>This seems similar.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, that's the way like a civilized human would ask

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<v Speaker 5>the question, and here's the response, and it's it's book length.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'll summarize. The One thing about the Iraq experience

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<v Speaker 5>is there are mistakes made so monumentally stupid it's difficult

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<v Speaker 5>to believe they happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Starting with, they had like three months of funding planned

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<v Speaker 4>for the war after Sadom was booted out, like it'll

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<v Speaker 4>be over, everything will be fine, and we'll just leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've got George W. Bush.

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<v Speaker 5>And and you know, if I had to leave my life,

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<v Speaker 5>my fortune, my children in the hands of one man,

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<v Speaker 5>George W. Bush or Donald Trump, it would well, if

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<v Speaker 5>it was my fortune, it'd probably be Trump. But in

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<v Speaker 5>terms of being a good, decent, moral human being, I

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<v Speaker 5>think George Bush wins by a mile sure, which led

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<v Speaker 5>him down the garden path.

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<v Speaker 2>He had this.

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<v Speaker 5>Unbelievably silly idea that the people of the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 5>including fundamentalist Muslims, just couldn't wait for Jeffersonian democracy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and you know Dick Cheney famously saying I think

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<v Speaker 4>will be greeted by liberators. Well, I think we were liberators. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but immediately they all, Okay, who's in charge. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in charge and no, no, no, you're not. I'm in charge.

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<v Speaker 4>And that happened, like it always happens. Somebody's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be in charge, and if you don't agree, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 4>got a war over it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called the Civil war.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, and the de bathification of the government of Iraq

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<v Speaker 5>was one of the most monumentally stupid moves that's ever

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<v Speaker 5>been made in world history. They essentially said, well, if

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<v Speaker 5>you're a member of the Bath Party, which is Saddam's party,

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<v Speaker 5>then you can't be part of the government. Well, that

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<v Speaker 5>was the entire government, from the people who like handed

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<v Speaker 5>out paychecks to civil servants, to the army generals, to

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<v Speaker 5>the school lunch program people. They were all in the

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<v Speaker 5>Bath part. It was a single party efing government. It's

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<v Speaker 5>such a to dismantle that and say all right, let's

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<v Speaker 5>restart now, except this Sar decision.

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<v Speaker 4>It's such a crapshoot and so complicated. The Soviet Union falling.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like if you ran that experiment a thousand

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<v Speaker 4>times you would get the peaceful result we ended up with.

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<v Speaker 4>Once where the Soviet Union fell, and it didn't fall

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<v Speaker 4>into the hands of crazy oligarchs going to war with

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<v Speaker 4>each other and some of them had nukes or.

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<v Speaker 5>All kinds of different things that could happened, but it didn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that that's a separate discussion for another day. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>crazy interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just thinking about ill Ran if this, if this

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<v Speaker 4>regime falls, is it going to be Is it gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be like the Soviet Union where somebody steps in that

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<v Speaker 4>everybody recognizes, Okay, you're the leader, and law and order

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<v Speaker 4>in the streets continues, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is it going to be more like a rack.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's got to be approached with brutal realism, friends,

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<v Speaker 5>that's what's going to make it different, aside from some

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<v Speaker 5>of the particulars that are different, but it's got to

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<v Speaker 5>be brutal realism. You let anybody who's part of the

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<v Speaker 5>government structure that makes the country run that says, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad those mullas are gone. I'm gonna keep doing

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<v Speaker 5>my job and showing up. That's number one. You keep

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<v Speaker 5>the country functioning in a way that doesn't create an

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<v Speaker 5>enormous power vacuum in the streets. Secondly, you recognize Concentrated

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<v Speaker 5>enthusiasm is often how one group gets to power over

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<v Speaker 5>another one, and in the Middle East it's the fundamentalist

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<v Speaker 5>Muslim lunatics who usually have that concentrated enthusiasm, like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>What's his name? Al Baker or fat You remember fat

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<v Speaker 2>Head in Iran?

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<v Speaker 5>What was his name? I can't remember, It'll pop into

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<v Speaker 5>my head. She leader, He had very close ties to Iran,

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<v Speaker 5>the guy in Irakaman. Anyway, you've got to be brutally

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<v Speaker 5>realistic that those people are gonna come gun and for power,

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<v Speaker 5>and you have to have a plan to suppress them.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember being fed the line, and I think inside

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<v Speaker 5>the White House the actual Neokans believed this Iraq is

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<v Speaker 5>really a secular society. I mean people, I mean people

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<v Speaker 5>are sites and Sunni's like you're a Baptist and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>a Lutheran. Well that was because Saddam repressed them like crazy.

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<v Speaker 5>And now those lessons having been learned, you know, whether

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<v Speaker 5>Trump and the Israelis and the Gulf States just.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody has got.

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<v Speaker 5>To approach it in a realistic way and not make

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<v Speaker 5>the horrific mistakes of Iraq.

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<v Speaker 4>Even if you took a religion out of it, which

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<v Speaker 4>is a hell of an even if since it's a

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<v Speaker 4>theocracy for the last forty some years, Even if you

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<v Speaker 4>took that out of it. Though, whoever's in charge of

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<v Speaker 4>the army might decide I want to be the leader,

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<v Speaker 4>and the person who's in charge of the Revolutionary Guard

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<v Speaker 4>might say, no, you're not, I'm going to and they

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<v Speaker 4>go to war like you've hardly ever seen before for

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<v Speaker 4>the next ten years, trying to decide who's going to

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<v Speaker 4>run the place.

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<v Speaker 2>That's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 5>And then, you know you, folks, we historians are going

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<v Speaker 5>to say, would we better have been better off just

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<v Speaker 5>letting Iran have the new No, I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 5>Having to sign agreements non aggression packs like the other

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<v Speaker 5>nuclear powers on Earth an uneasy relationship, but blah, blah blah,

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<v Speaker 5>the difference being that the Mullas mean what they say.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of those people are actual religious fanatics.

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<v Speaker 4>But the classic Caesar crossing the Rubicon moment was he

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<v Speaker 4>decided to take his army after whoop an ass all

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<v Speaker 4>over the place. You know what, I'm going to run

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<v Speaker 4>the Roman Empire and crossed the river headed back into

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<v Speaker 4>the country and everybody knew, okay, it's on. He ended

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<v Speaker 4>up winning. But yeah, sometimes the generals decide they want

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<v Speaker 4>to be in charge.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I suspect that that's what will happen, So

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<v Speaker 5>it would be a fair question. Then if our questioner

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<v Speaker 5>were to follow up, he'd say, all right, so how

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<v Speaker 5>do you see the post regime change Iran taking shape?

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<v Speaker 5>That isn't way worse for humanity than if they got

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<v Speaker 5>the nuke.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great question. It's impossible to answer.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I could spin you out a scenario, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's unlikely to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It is a classic example of being caught between a

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<v Speaker 5>rock and a hard place, having two absolutely awful alternatives.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a certain school of thought you run into a lot,

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<v Speaker 5>especially online, that likes to pretend not making a decision

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<v Speaker 5>is not a decision in and of itself, that if

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<v Speaker 5>you don't make.

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<v Speaker 2>It, that Obama's really right? Is Obama? Don't do stupid s?

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<v Speaker 2>Was their motto?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, not doing stupid s allows Russia to just

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<v Speaker 4>keep gobbling up land.

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<v Speaker 5>For instance, the late great Neil peart, if you decide

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<v Speaker 5>to this is well, if you don't make a decision,

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<v Speaker 5>you've still made a choice. And there is a belief

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<v Speaker 5>I think that if you just don't act, everything's frozen

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<v Speaker 5>in amber, and that the status quo continues.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>True, no, no, in your child rearing, marriage, career, whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, two miserable options. Pick one. That's life.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Mark Alpern wrote this today. I think we

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<v Speaker 4>agree that the most likely scenario is the United States

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<v Speaker 4>is going to help Israel here in the next forty

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<v Speaker 4>eight to seventy two hours bomb the but Jesus out

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<v Speaker 4>of Fordoh to the point that it can't make a

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear weapon, and and we're gonna we're going to help

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<v Speaker 4>in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I assume at that point we're done.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there will be diplomacy and aid and that sort

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<v Speaker 5>of thing, and pulling of strings behind the scenes, trying

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<v Speaker 5>to either get a more friendly regime in place, or

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<v Speaker 5>just saying, all right, mullas, if you can still run,

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<v Speaker 5>if your people will still let you run the place,

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<v Speaker 5>go ahead and run the place. Just remember what happened.

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<v Speaker 5>If you try to get a nuke again, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>happen again. You want to keep to yourself and like

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<v Speaker 5>revive your economy and be reasonably friendly to the nations

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<v Speaker 5>around you, Go ahead, knock yourself out. Don't try to

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<v Speaker 5>get a new kigin.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to be open minded for the other side

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm pretty hard shore. I think this is a

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<v Speaker 4>good idea. You know, nobody saw what was coming in

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<v Speaker 4>Iraq in that Isis was gonna get created and become

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<v Speaker 4>a thing. Maybe there's some sheite version of that that

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<v Speaker 4>comes out of Iran when you unleash the dogs of

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<v Speaker 4>war that nobody could possibly imagine with a year's long

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<v Speaker 4>insurgency of a deaf Cultis sheeite version of this?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 5>Not impossible. Nope, I didn't see ices coming to anybody else.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't disband the army that would.

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<v Speaker 4>Help let them go to work. And she said it'd

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<v Speaker 4>be better than isis anyway, we will finish strong next.

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<v Speaker 4>You can always text on this topic. This is a

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<v Speaker 4>thorny one.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a big deal. This is I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I absolutely agree with the idea that this is the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest decision of Trump's life that he's going to be making,

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<v Speaker 4>depending on how it plays out. Our text line is

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<v Speaker 4>four one five two nine KFTC.

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<v Speaker 8>A man was recently arrested at a Florida strip club

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<v Speaker 8>after he allegedly called nine one one from a private

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<v Speaker 8>room to complain that he had to pay three hundred

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<v Speaker 8>dollars but the dancer refused to have sex with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's still Florida.

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<v Speaker 8>Nine one one, so I'm sure they were like, try

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<v Speaker 8>five hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>So God, it's hard to not continue on this same theme.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't usually cover one topic this much, but this

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<v Speaker 4>is new. President Trump just tweeted out he actually did

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<v Speaker 4>a different whatever I'm gonna call everything a tweet that

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<v Speaker 4>comes out like this fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump said.

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<v Speaker 4>We now have complete and total control over the skies

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<v Speaker 4>over Iran. I read that and said to Joe, I

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<v Speaker 4>think the key word there is we. So somebody apparently

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 4>thought the we stuck out. Also, he didn't say Israel

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<v Speaker 4>has complete control over the skies over ran, so somebody asked,

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<v Speaker 4>According to a White House official, though we that President

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<v Speaker 4>Trump is referring to here is the United States, not Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>HM.

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<v Speaker 4>So so Trump meant to say, we, the United States

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<v Speaker 4>now have complete control over the skies of Iran.

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<v Speaker 5>Therefore, we are willing to send in our b twos

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<v Speaker 5>with the moab bombs. I got is the unspoken end

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 5>of that sentence. I guess, so my final thought on

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 5>the previous discussion is that there's got to be something

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<v Speaker 5>transitional if indeed the current regime falls, and you've got

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<v Speaker 5>to it's got to be a temporary quote unquote military

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<v Speaker 5>dictatorship with people we can work with. We assure there's security,

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<v Speaker 5>tell them you just keep stability, don't try to go

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<v Speaker 5>for a bomb. We'll make sure none of the Arab

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 5>states decide they want snatch up your oil refineries or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>And you go forward from there. It's a likely choice,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's a good one. Greed heads because the military

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<v Speaker 5>Iran is a bunch of greed heads. They make tons

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<v Speaker 5>of money. They have a like a societal hold on

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<v Speaker 5>big chunks of the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>There are number of countries that are like that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very typical.

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<v Speaker 5>But you deal with the greed heads, not the religious fanatics.

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<v Speaker 5>The greed heads you know how to deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>If there's an LCC in Iran like there was in Egypt,

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<v Speaker 4>to take over after m bark the dictator fell, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if there's one person or they'll be warring

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<v Speaker 4>amongst themselves as we talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Ol There may have been last week, but they're all

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<v Speaker 2>on now.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't follow OSI in t Defender Open Source

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 4>Intelligence Defender. On stories like this, you're missing out. You

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 4>will know so much, so much, sooner than you'll ever

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 4>get it from cable news or the newspaper.

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<v Speaker 2>I look at it constantly anyway. They have this, Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll like this.

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<v Speaker 4>Internet and cellultor outages occurring right now across Iran admitst

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 4>reports Iran Cyber Authority that they are currently under a

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 4>large scale cyber attack from Israel. So their cellutor outages

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 4>and they're in celliator and internet has gone down. That

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<v Speaker 4>might be the leading thing before we start bombing today,

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<v Speaker 4>like in the next couple hours.

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<v Speaker 5>They have Israel has the cyber equivalent of a pager

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<v Speaker 5>in every network, every system in Iran, and it's about

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<v Speaker 5>to shut it down.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my guess, something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Before we, along with Israel bomb the but Jesus out

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 4>of them. Can you say when you got Jews bombing Muslims?

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<v Speaker 5>Probably not, Yes, you can, you can absolutely free speech,

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<v Speaker 5>my friend defended.

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<v Speaker 2>Final thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew

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<v Speaker 5>to wrap things up for the day. There he is

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<v Speaker 5>Michael Angelo pressing the button as Michael Well.

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<v Speaker 2>That news kind of ruined my final thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I was gonna guess that they were gonna text everybody

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<v Speaker 5>if they had wont to prize, send them.

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<v Speaker 2>All to one building and the blow up the building.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give the Super Bowl tickets. This classic Katie Green knows.

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<v Speaker 5>Something about law enforcement and that sort of thing. Our

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 5>esteemed newswoman, Katie final thought has nothing to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do with law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 4>But I did just write grape nuts down on my

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 4>grocery list for today.

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I love grape nuts. Yeah, I hope you your teeth

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 2>are good and harden.

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<v Speaker 4>They are bland and you need tough teeth. Jack final

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<v Speaker 4>thought for us, I'll look into the picture of Tucker

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<v Speaker 4>Carlson with Alex Jones. Alex Jones lost a ton of weight,

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 4>looks fantastic, and he's no zimpic guy, I think, or

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<v Speaker 4>one of those drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Why aren't we all doing that? We all got

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<v Speaker 2>to get on that. My final thought. You know me,

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of a real estate freak. I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>If you were thinking of purchasing a property anywhere near

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<v Speaker 5>the fod Oh reactor in Iran, I would hold off.

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<v Speaker 2>I would go ahead and wait week before you sign

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<v Speaker 2>that contract.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you're going to vacation and do an airbnb

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 4>somewhere near.

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<v Speaker 2>There, right, get a tour of the reactor. That sort

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 2>of thing in Richmond's.

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<v Speaker 4>Site Armstrong and Getty wrapping about. Oh they're grueling for

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<v Speaker 4>our workday.

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 5>It's housed within a mountain that's soon to be a

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 5>former mountain. So many people who thanks so little time

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 5>go to Armstrong geddy dot com hot links. Are there

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<v Speaker 5>our email address that we linked to a mail bag

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 5>at Armstrong and geddy dot com. You disagree, we want

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<v Speaker 5>to hear from you. Make your points.

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 4>You know that will be a spectacular show if it

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 4>goes down the way we think our planes with some

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<v Speaker 4>of the biggest bunker busters that exist.

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<v Speaker 2>On Earth, over and over and over again. That'll be

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<v Speaker 2>something to watch. We'll see tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>God bless America.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm strong and ghett.

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<v Speaker 5>He has to stop like the day before yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you sure? Oh? Dead show audio smofo, fuzzo ye

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<v Speaker 2>and boom goes to dynamite. You made it rights riding

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<v Speaker 2>a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>One final message, Maybe the joke we've been making forever

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 4>will come true.

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Everybody's beard will explode.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on your beard, your beard, ah, and they run

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<v Speaker 4>out of their room.

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<v Speaker 2>Beard's on fire, armstrong and getting