1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Welcome to this week's episode the PhD podcast 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: is Your Girl Every Name, And I am super excited 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: about this week's episode. Um normally I do a little housekeeping, 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: but this episode is gonna be really amazing, really informative. 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I found my long lost auntie. Um, 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: so before we began, didn't even paint the picture for 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: you guys. So I remember when I was growing up 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: and even til this day, like I've always been fascinated 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: with like drug dealers in the history and not so 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: not so much the part about that crimes and all 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: the other stuff, but I think I was just so 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: amazed because a lot of these men, and a lot 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: of them was black men. Um, they were so smart, 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Like a lot of these men have no type of education, 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: but they provided for so many people. And I was 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: just so amazed to see like a lot of the 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: man like a million dollars in a week, Like how 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: is that even possible? So my guest today is gonna 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: give us some insight because I feel like a lot 20 00:00:59,920 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: of us when we heard about the legends in our neighborhoods, 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: we heard from a man's point of view. But now 22 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: we have a woman here and I know all of 23 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: my guests are anonymous, but if you are interested in 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: learning more about her story and you want to read 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: her book with her book was like really amazing. I 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: finished it like in two days. Um, I had to 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: wait for the camera. Guys, UM, please email me at 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: hello at the professional homegirl dot com. So I remember 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: watching old movies back in the day, and I remember 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: seeing the lifestyle in Harlem, and I used to be like, yo, 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: these people are mad flower Like I want to be 32 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: like them. Like it just looked like it was just 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: mad fun back in the day. So what was all 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: What was Harlem like doing that the golden era? Um, 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Harlem in the eighties and nineties, Like I said in 36 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: a book, it was just fun. It was more community. Um. 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: Although the things things were going on out there, we 38 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: still had our elders there who was looking out for 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: us and we still respected them. But of course we 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: were still outdoing our thing, and the streets just seemed 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: to be fun. You can go out so much fun. Man. 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: It was like like I say that, it was the 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: stage and we just went out there and we just 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: had fun. We were able to have fun unlike today. Yeah, 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: so give us an insight on your background before you 46 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: was introduced to the street life. Um, grew up with 47 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: both of my parents Southern born mom like me and 48 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Kingslyn Jamaican born dad, and I grew up in a 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: strict household. You know, education was definitely a big part 50 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: of my household. My dad stayed on us when the 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: King the education. So education has been and will always 52 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: be a part of you know, my lifestyle, my life. 53 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what it was, me and my sisters 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: and you even really have the one thing thing I 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: really didn't, and my parents provided us with everything. I 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: never on it for anything, And whatever I did do, 57 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: it was because of choices that I chose to do 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: that out of need. Because I felt like when I 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: was reading your book, you were talking about your father 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: owned a couple of businesses in Jamaica, your mother was 61 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: a nurse. So I think that's what made for me 62 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: your story stand up how much more because, like you said, 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: it was a choice, because you really didn't have to 64 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: go that way. So by the time you were sixteen, 65 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: he was introduced to the world of drugs by your 66 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: uncle and you started selling dust. Tell us a little 67 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: bit about that experience, Okay, well, I was actually it 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: kind of introduced to the drug game by my boyfriend, 69 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: but not that he gave me anything. I just knew 70 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: he was doing something, you know, in the streets. So 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: that's how I look bad. But as far as getting 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: the dust, yes, that came from my uncle and I 73 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: asked him for it because I wanted to be out there. 74 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: I saw at that age how much money people can get, 75 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: so I wanted to go down to twenty third Street 76 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: was like the mecca of getting money. At harmm there 77 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: was so many street legends I knew, but I didn't 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: really know the street legends that I was really around. 79 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: It was crowded, so I know, okay, money is here, 80 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: but everybody was getting money like it was everybody got 81 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: a part of it. Yeah yeah, so yeah, I just chose. 82 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: I took the dusk, putting him a little Louis Vuitton 83 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: DEFL bag that I had, and um, that's when I 84 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: started I was saying, how didn't make you feel um 85 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: a part of something like I was like a big 86 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: part of something like Okay, I'm really doing something, So 87 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: yeah it made me feel like Okay, but were you nervous? No? 88 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: Not really, nobody can't say that I was you really 89 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: were selling I really wasn't because at that time I 90 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 1: probably didn't realize what I was really probably getting myself 91 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: into had something happened, But I was lucky. So, um, 92 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned your uncle was out, and so when I 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: was reading about him, I was like, yo, like he 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: was really good, that he was wilding out, like he 95 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: was just everything, and I would just so into his 96 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: I can't say character, but I was so into him 97 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: when he was telling your story. But then it made 98 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: me so fascinated by him because he was nineteen when 99 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: he passed away. So I was like, damn, Like you 100 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: had young boys really providing for families and neighborhoods. So 101 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: what's the difference between now and then? Because I feel 102 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: like back in the day was so easy to make money. 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: It was. The difference between now and then is that 104 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: the game is over. You think it's over. Oh yeah, 105 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: it's definitely over, although you still have some I don't 106 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: think that's doing it. But the difference is the time 107 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: that they all going to get in jail and the 108 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: time that you're going to get in jail. Today isn't 109 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: worth the reward, Like the risk is not worth it. 110 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Back then the risk was worth the reward because the 111 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: reward was so much bigger back then. Today is not, 112 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: with the whole opioid epidemic and things like that, they're 113 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: not playing, So you gotta ask yourself, is it really 114 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: worth it to do all though some people in times 115 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: are completely different. It's different. You know, change is good sometimes, 116 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: but times have changed, and you know, it's times where 117 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, at some point it's like, Okay, we gotta grow, 118 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: we gotta try to do something different. And for those 119 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: of us who already had that life and understanding and no, 120 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: you know, we knew the money to be made, but 121 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: whatever we've done now we gotta try to legitimize we have, right, 122 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, wanta do something different and be a little 123 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: more business minded, right, And we got to teach the 124 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: youth of to day something different because there's nothing like 125 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: the youth of yesterday where yeah, I feel like nowadays 126 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: people are really wilding out for no reason, no reason 127 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: at all. It's reckless and this whole game mentality, it's 128 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: really scary, very much so, because I feel like now, 129 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: like as a woman, I feel like when I was younger, 130 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: my grandmother lived in East New York because I feel 131 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: like I was younger, like the men like protected the neighborhood, 132 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: like I canna walk down everybody, know who everybody was. 133 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: And I used to come up to New York every 134 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: sum So even like when the um, certain guys for 135 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: the neighborhood come around, knew what they were doing. They 136 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: would always just look out for us and not feel 137 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: like nowadays fast forwards where man, now I don't even 138 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: feel safe in my own neighborhood sometimes. Absolutely, it was 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: definitely different, and at that time we felt safe for 140 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: everybody knew one another. Um if things happened, but it 141 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: was specific to whatever happened between those two individuals. Now 142 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: it's just reckless and anybody are come at you or 143 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: come around your way and you just don't know what's 144 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: going on. You don't feel protected at home. Back then, 145 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: we felt protected at home as well as just moving 146 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: about in our neighborhoods because everybody knew each other. So yes, 147 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: it's definitely different. So, um, you were cool with a 148 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: lot of dudes in the neighborhood that we considered legends. Um, 149 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: where were some of your lessons you game from them? Um? Hm, 150 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: because you know being around him just I mean of course, 151 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: I'll learned how to get money, learned how to hustle, 152 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: and you know, just being layal and standing by what 153 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: I believe in. Um they also taught me as a 154 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: woman not to be disrespected. Don't let another man disrespect me. 155 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: So they definitely taught me some you know, drop some 156 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: jewels on me as far as being a woman out 157 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: of the industreet. Yeah. I remember you were saying how 158 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: your uncle Stan used to always say things to you 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: and be like yo, like, don't be doing stuff like 160 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: that like block. That's why I guess you always gave 161 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: me everything he mean, and bought the trucks that here 162 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: you drive that because it's like he was like, you 163 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: don't need a man for nothing, so he gave me everything. 164 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: So that's one thing is like, you know, I didn't 165 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: really have but even though I had my parents, but 166 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: if I felt the need, I really didn't have to 167 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: go out there and do anything, you know, to get 168 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: anything from another man because my uncle always provided it. 169 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: And you always showed me how to get my own money. 170 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: And that's real, yeah, because I feel like it comes 171 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: from home. Yeah. So um so, and you're book you 172 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: always talk about the power of pussy. So I was like, yes, Auntie, 173 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: tell us what it is, because you know it is. Um. 174 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: When I was single, men would do anything for you 175 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: just to have the thought of just getting close to you. 176 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: So when I was reading your book, I was like, yo, 177 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: she was really getting it. So where were some situations 178 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: that you felt like being a woman put you in better, 179 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: made you advanced better in certain situations? And where were 180 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: someone the like craziest gifts you used to receive. Why 181 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: the thing is, I learned early that men are really 182 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: more emotional than we are. Absolutely, So when I found 183 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: that out, I probably took advantage of that, you know, 184 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: because like you said, you know some they will do 185 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: sometimes anything to get you, and you just can't sell 186 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: yourself shure, you know, number one, you gotta let the 187 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: mode that you know your worth, that you respect yourself, 188 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: and that they need to respect you as well. So 189 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, those are the things that Um, I learned early, 190 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: and I used it to my advantage, especially when you 191 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: know that somebody wants you that bad and they're willing 192 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: to do anything. And then when you know you got 193 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: that good good, well, tell us a story, tell us 194 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: a story. I mean, I don't really have a story. 195 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: But I mean, well, yeah, I got a few stories. 196 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't know when you have, you know, because I 197 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: just had a conversation with an ex point from come 198 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: on man, I said, oh, pussy is the same? Oh no, Mommy, 199 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: no mom, Because I guess we could look at it like, oh, 200 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: you know, people ain't the same. So he said, oh, 201 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: you're might be different. That's different. So when you know 202 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: that you got something, because you know the effects that 203 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: you have on people, right, you know, if you see 204 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: a man get to a certain point where he other 205 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: cries or he just gets upset. You see that from 206 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: different people. You like, Okay, I got it, and you 207 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: know when you got it because you was getting diamonds, 208 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: he was getting apartments. He was my daughter father, he 209 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: had it, and um so I got a lot from 210 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: that from you know that relationship. My boyfriend, my ex boyfriend, 211 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Donald God bless his soul. He treated me very well. Yeah, 212 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: I remember you told a story about how he held 213 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: the diamond necklace or something and I had left him 214 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: for somebody else and I ween you're staying with a man. 215 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I was like yes, and he was like, don't judge me, y'all. Yeah, 216 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: into her one day and he had this nice diamond 217 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: cross and I was like, oh, shoot, that's nice. And 218 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: I started playing and he said you won't When I 219 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: say yeah, next thing, you know, I guess even too. 220 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: You may. He went to Jersey it's a guy named 221 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: the Burg and brought me a nice diamond cross and 222 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: I was like wow, yeah, I was like what d Yeah, 223 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: I got another Domond necklace. I still have it today. 224 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: That a board. Why do you think men felt so 225 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: comfortable around you? I mean I know what I mean. 226 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: You first met I felt like we just instantly connected. 227 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: But I feel like you was a lot of men 228 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: like respecting you, like you was like the go to 229 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: STIs for everything. And it's so crazy because I still 230 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: have that to I think men knows that I understand them, 231 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: understand the street, I understand the game. I know that's 232 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: their attraction. Now. Back then it could have been something, 233 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: but what I can say now is um and this 234 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: is what they tell me. You know, I just have 235 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: that thing where they feel like, Okay, I'm good. People 236 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: have good energy. If I deal with you, I deal 237 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: with you. You know, I try to deal with everybody 238 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: the same way until you show me something different. You know, 239 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: sometimes you got to see what some people modelings ought 240 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: to be around you, because everybody definitely have a motor, 241 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad. But you know, I think 242 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: for the most part, they knew that he understood the 243 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: game and most of them were in it. So yeah, 244 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: and you know, these people were always I'm sorry to 245 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: people always just call you with certain things popped off, 246 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: or like people you would be walking down the street, 247 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,599 Speaker 1: somebody come up to you and tell you what was 248 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: going on, like this is a lot about your character. Yeah. 249 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: I have people that she had things that they don't 250 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: even tell the right hand man, you know, and I 251 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: keep it, you know. So I'm I appreciate that. I 252 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that people see that in me because 253 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm genuine and loyalty means so much to me. You know, 254 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm a genuine person. I don't do phony stuff. I've 255 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: never been a snake. I don't do stuff like that. 256 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: It's not in my nature, you know. So if they 257 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: if that's what they see in me, then you know, 258 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad because that's that's exactly what it is. Yeah. Um, 259 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: so there was a particular situation when you talked about 260 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: um the father of your onborn child was locked up, 261 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: so you had to take over. So I'm picturing because 262 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm reading it and I'm like, yo, she help her 263 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: pregnant and you're just you're handling business, Like how did 264 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: that makes you feel? Oh, tell us more about the situation, 265 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: because of course I know. Yeah, Well, my daughter father, 266 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: he and um a guy named Fritz, and Fritz was 267 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: considered the consign He was the consignment king at HALLM 268 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: and considered one of the richest men in HALLM and 269 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: a certain time, whoever was hustling or had the opportunity 270 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: to hustle, whether it was directly or indirectly, they got 271 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: their drugs from Fritz. So, you know, me and Ace 272 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: got into a relationship and it was like probably less 273 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: than six months or within six months, he ended up 274 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: getting arrested and died it for a murder that had 275 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: happened three years prior. So we're looking like what the hell. 276 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: So you know, I had already knew the game. I 277 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: knew what to do, and because I was his girl, 278 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm about to have a baby. I said, I don't 279 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: want nobody taking care of my money because I don't 280 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: wanta have to ask nobody for anything, you know, and 281 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: I know how the streets can go and how you 282 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: know dudes can act. So yeah, I started, Um, I 283 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: took over. I moved the operation to my mother's apartment. Yeah, 284 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: I remember you moved up. It was a safe and 285 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: some money and stuff to have. Why did you do that? Well, 286 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: I bought the safe because Fritz. Under the direction of Fritz, 287 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: he said, it's an all the aces going, I'm still 288 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: gonna make sure you get money. And that money had 289 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to do with ACE operations because he was 290 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: a lawyer dude like that, and that's what friends and 291 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: partners do. They're gonna make sure that their partner's family 292 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: is okay. So he said, get them safe so you 293 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: can just put the money I give you for him, 294 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: so whenever he comes out, he got money. So yeah, 295 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: I had started doing everything at my mom's house because 296 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I didn't want nobody know where I lived that So, yeah, 297 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: things were going on. It was only about maybe four, 298 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: no more than five people who actually came to the 299 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: house to other pick up, bring me money, and you know, 300 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: continue doing what they're throwing back and forth. And one 301 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: day someone came to get some money from my father 302 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: in law, and when he left, it was a not 303 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: going to do like no more than five minutes, and 304 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: it was three masked people, two men and who are female. 305 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: And at that time, you know, like I said, I 306 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: wasn't nervous or scared. I was more because she was 307 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: talking was popping then, yeah, because I was like, I'm 308 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: being disrespected and I knew who just left my house. 309 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I know, we're trying to put two 310 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: and two together. And then when they say take it 311 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: to the safe, it's only, like I said, four or 312 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: five people who knew I had the safe in the house, 313 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: So I'm like okay, and um yeah, I just ended 314 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: up taking them to the safe, giving them what they 315 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: wanted once I knew that they were comfortable enough. And 316 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, at that time, I had to play the 317 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: cars that I was dealt because they said they wasn't 318 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: going to hurt me, but I had one that was 319 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: kind of feeling some type of way, feeling itchy. He 320 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: was very aggressive. Yeah, he was very aggressive, and I said, well, 321 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I made them comfortable by saying, Tommy up, 322 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try anything, just don't hurt me and 323 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: my baby. How many months you then I was about six, oh, 324 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: so he was definitely showing Yeah, I was about six, 325 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: and they busted it. I only hand on the brown 326 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: panties at the time, so they took everything. I opened 327 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: up the safe, they took the safe, they took old 328 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: my jury, they took a ledger. I think I had 329 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: like a big thing a week maybe it was a 330 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: FedEx package of man and they went on about their business. 331 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: I think what your story is also like how you 332 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: maintain a positive outlook on things, because at the end 333 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: of that story, you was saying, how your you thought 334 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: it was your sister that was coming over, so that's 335 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: why you just opened the door and didn't even like 336 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: really think about anything. And you were saying, how thank 337 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: god that your sister that wasn't in the in the 338 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: room with you, because she was supposed to come over, 339 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: but she was downstairs talking to some the neighbor or something, 340 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: and how everything could have went completely left if she 341 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: would have been there. Yeah, because maybe with my little 342 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: sister she lived there and I told her come up 343 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: at a certain time because and another reason I was 344 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: that my mom talked because I was sick about while 345 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 1: I was pregnant, like I had one of sickness. Every 346 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: day was the day. So I said, man, God must 347 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: have been watching over her and over me. Um. She 348 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: stopped at the elevator to talk to my best friend's brother. 349 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: I have no idea because this just didn't seem like 350 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: something that would happened, like she went staying there and 351 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: have a long conversation with him about what And had 352 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: she been there coming, my sister is a fighter like 353 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: anything that it would have just made her. She would 354 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: have been looking at it like they're not gonna let 355 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: us let and she would have tried to fight her 356 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: way about it there. But me being in and trying 357 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: to be calm and keep them calm, that was my 358 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: I was just happy that I was able to play 359 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: it that way. And I said God held her at 360 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: that elevator because when they ran out the door and 361 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: they ran down because we have long hallways. As a 362 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: twenty story we building long hallways. When she ran when 363 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: they ran down the hallway and down the stairs and 364 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: the stick Kay's door closed her and the guy Junior 365 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: came a on, it looked and nobody was there. Then 366 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: I was putting my clothes on and by the time 367 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: she got to the door and I opened the door 368 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: and she was standing ranked there said, they just roared me. 369 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: So we ran down the whole ran down the stairs 370 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: and I found their face mask and Hoodie's there, but 371 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: I said, God help her to elevated because he know her. Yeah, 372 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: she was so crazy. This is here you're talking about it, 373 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: just like because when I read it, I was like, y'all, 374 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: that's so crazy. You upstairs going through that situation, and 375 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: she's downstairs talking like y'all know she was on the 376 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: same floor, Yeah, in the same building. And then it's 377 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: a crazy because when my grandmother us always telling me, 378 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: is everything you're doing, the dark comes to light and 379 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: when you sit there in your book, I was like, 380 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: because then you later found out who it was, since 381 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: she is later I already knew, but it was confirmed. 382 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: So a lady stopped me in my lobby saying, so 383 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: she didn't even know you, She didn't really know me 384 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: like that, but she's like I grew up with her daughters, 385 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: like she was in and out, but she always kind 386 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: of lived in another state but always came back to 387 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 1: the building. And someone who also lived in my building 388 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: was there and knew the whole plan of how it 389 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: was going to go down and she told the lady, 390 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: but they got bad at her and told me. So 391 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: that's how I knew the guns they had, who was 392 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: related to who? And then she was bold and that 393 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: the was she kind of she was kind of a 394 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: gangster yourself. She was in again. You know the lady 395 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: that told me, she's not the one who told her. Yeah, 396 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: but then you said she was on crack. Yeah she was, 397 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: so she could have told her during one of those episodes. 398 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: I said, Wow, that's crazy. It is just confirmed everything. 399 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: And then when on that story, I like to how 400 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: you talked about like the rage. She felt like like 401 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: you was ready to like any means necessary. Everybody was gone, 402 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: And that's how I felt at the time. You know, 403 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: I put hits out and I was able to do that. 404 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: I had people who did that and serious people too, 405 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: So I was like listening, want this one for And 406 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't really mad at the people that came in. 407 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: You had the person who sent them exactly exactly they 408 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: was just doing and you know, for the love of money, man, money, yeah, 409 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: man make people do some crazy things. Yo. That's yo. 410 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: One of the craziest things that you said. Yeah, I 411 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: was so into this book, y'all, because I love to 412 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: read so and I'm trying to read like a new 413 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: book every week because there's just so much information and 414 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: knowledge out there that's in a textbook, but they don't 415 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: tell us to read or promote the reading wants to 416 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: watch these games. And I was on the bullshit, but 417 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: money does make people do a lot of crazy things, 418 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: because you even said that it was this guy, Um, 419 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: he pretty much was paid to kill somebody on his 420 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: own crew. And I'm just thinking, like, yo, where is 421 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: the loyalty yet? Like that was so insane to me 422 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: because you can't even trust people that's around you, not 423 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: at all, not at all. And yeah, that was a 424 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: situation with my little brother Jermaine, and he had an 425 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: issue may he rest in peace with someone and it 426 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: got kind of crazy when it would shoot out here 427 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: and then want somebody on his side got shot. I 428 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, now this is a serious and the 429 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: room was that he allegedly put a bounty on someone's 430 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: head and that person's own man said oh, I'll take it, 431 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: and he did. Yeah. I said, wow, you can't trust 432 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: nobody again the money. But did that make you think 433 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: like if he's willing to do that to his own people, 434 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: What is he willing to do to one of us? Right? 435 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: If somebody probably would have put that money up in 436 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: sad since you're doing it like that. We got over 437 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: here because a lot of people were at some point 438 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: kind of hating him, hating Jermaine or disliking him because 439 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: he was just coming becoming so big and so powerful 440 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: in the streets. And I guess they didn't like it. 441 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: But you know, if it's jealousy. For the most part, 442 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: wasn't like he was really out there in bolling anybody 443 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: unless it came his way. But yeah, but you're right, 444 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about something to the events 445 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: that led up to you wanted to change or get 446 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: out of the game. Um. One thing I've noticed in 447 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: your book that almost said every chapter you name at 448 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: least four or five people that passed away. Yeah, how 449 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: was that? Because I know for me, I mean, I 450 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: don't know these people, but I was even getting emotional 451 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: because I was like, damn, like Auntie really been through 452 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: some stuff, Like you've seen a lot of people lose 453 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: their lives. I'm sorry, Auntie, I'm sorry trying. Um, yeah, 454 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of death, and it was a 455 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: lot of people around me that was going. But for 456 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: the most part, once Jamine got killed, that was it. 457 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: Like the streets wasn't fun. I'm not saying that it 458 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: was fun when I was, you know, just seeing other 459 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: people get killed. It wasn't that. But it's like, Okay, 460 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: things are serious. Things really hit home. Even though I 461 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: had had people close to me prior to that, you know, 462 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: pass away, but he was somebody that I loved dearly. 463 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: He became although him and my sister were boyfriend and 464 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: girl from when they were kids, and after they broke up, 465 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: we all were still a family, like him and her, 466 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: like he still loved her to death, like we loved 467 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: each other and we protected each other. So you know, 468 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: once he passed away, that was it. I was like, okay, 469 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: I gotta get it together. Almost was my mind. Yeah. 470 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: I took that really, really, really hard because I know 471 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: I was really close. Yeah, and I know that's not 472 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: what he wanted because you can have people out there 473 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: and they live in a certain kind of way. But 474 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: when he told me on his own mouth, he was 475 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: like her, sis, I'm tired of this, And that was 476 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: so like, oh my god, I was just so into 477 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: that moment because I was just thinking, like damn, like 478 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: y'all literally had a conversation about how he was saying, 479 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: how he was just he was through with it. Yeah, 480 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: he was like I ain't ready to that, Like I'm 481 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: tired because he was getting money, you know, you wanted 482 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: to enjoy It was like, yeah, yeah, he warded to 483 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: enjoy his life. And it's like things was getting hectic. 484 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: But then when, like I said, when somebody shot at 485 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: somebody that was close to him, he was like, Okay, 486 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: it's getting kind of serious. And he said, like I said, 487 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: allegedly he put the bounty on somebody's head, and then, 488 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: like I said, the Boogeyman came in and got him, 489 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, probably for that. And you know, it took 490 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: me a long time to get over it. Like I said, 491 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 1: eight years later, I was in my house and um, 492 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: in my apartment in Atlanta, and I literally got on 493 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: my knees and had to forgive the person that killed 494 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: him because I was angry for like eight years. Yeah, 495 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's so funny. Um, it will be four 496 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: years since my grandmother passed away on Friday, right, So 497 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: I always get these emotions and weird. I'm pretty sure 498 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: you get the same thing around the Anniversity of Jermaine. 499 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: And my grandmother was like mad close to me, and 500 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: I always talked about my grandmother and like till his day, 501 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: like around this time, like it takes a lot. So 502 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: when you can see your emotion, because I know what 503 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: the emotion is because to me, it's just like when 504 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: I read that part, I'm thinking, like, damn, I remember 505 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: the last time I had a conversation with my grandmother. 506 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: And next thing you know, I got a call saying 507 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: she passed away. So that's really like did you go 508 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: to therapy or like who did you talk to about 509 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: stuff like this? I never know As far as that, 510 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: I didn't. My favorite people was the book. Yeah. I 511 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: had to get it out because it was it was 512 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: a lot in you. Yeah. Once once he went, then 513 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: I realized, oh my god, so many other things happened 514 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: to me in my life. I was like, oh, so 515 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: let me just get it out, put it on papers. 516 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: I spoke to his mom. I said, I I think 517 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna write a book. She's like, do what you 518 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: gotta do. Because we was all close, you know, we 519 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: were all closed. So she was like to do what 520 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: you gotta do, because she know, you know, the up 521 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: that we had between each other, And I understood what 522 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: you meant by because I know when she passed what 523 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: I went crazy, Like I was oppressed. My hair was 524 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: falling out, like I was like a walking zombie. Like 525 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: if I saw an older lady with a child, I 526 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: used to cry thing and that's their grandmother's stuff like that. 527 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: So like I can imagine how it felt for you 528 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: and you see certain things. So even like writing this 529 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: book just bought back all a lot of good memories 530 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, you're writing the book was therapeutic because 531 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: I needed to get it out. Then there was a 532 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: time where, like I started writing around two thousand and five, 533 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: for maybe three or four years, I didn't touch it 534 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 1: because then it came the pain came back. Like I 535 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: would open up my laptop and if I started reading it, 536 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: I got nauseous to my stomach because you know when 537 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: you're writing something and now you feel like, Okay, I'm 538 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: gonna put this into a book. It's repetitive. You have 539 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: to read it over and over again, and it became painful. 540 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: So I literally didn't touch it for years. Mm hmm. 541 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: Wow um so that goes into the same question. What 542 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: about the time when you um when you got shot. Yeah, 543 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: because when you were talking about that, I was like, 544 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: I think you said you ran to the dot, the 545 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: hospital or something, you got it, And I'm like, what, 546 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm a strong woman, Yes you are, man or it's 547 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: not like that. But I owed all to God because 548 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: I know he get your your mama. You work hard, 549 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: you know, I said, That's how said he was not 550 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: snatched me up by my wig for all my life 551 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: getting me up out of trouble. But yeah, yeah, but 552 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: you never fold. You never fold though, Like you really 553 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: held it down the strength that I have, like I 554 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: should be really walking around taking medication half crazy. Yeah, 555 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: she looked good after all of the things that I've 556 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: been through and have seen. Yeah, but yeah, that day 557 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: I got shot, how were you? I was twenty four, 558 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: I may have been twenty three going on twenty four. Uh. 559 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: In a split second, I was on the ground. But 560 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: they had came to shoot or kill a guy from 561 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: a block because of an incident had happened maybe a 562 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: day or two before. And when I seen the combination 563 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: of the guy from my block and who he was 564 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: talking to, I know it was a bad combination. So 565 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: I was trying to go. I was going to jump 566 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: in the cab and go tell the boys of that 567 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: crew because he was my daughter's godfather. But before I 568 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: could do it, I heard the shots and the guy 569 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: was running towards me, which was a friend of mine. 570 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: I yelled out one of the shoot his names, like 571 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And then I just started running. 572 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: So I fell and my friend fell in front of me. 573 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: But for some reason, I knew I was hit. I 574 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: don't know how I knew. I'm not sure. I can't 575 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: remember feeling a bullet, to be honest with you, but 576 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: I knew. And I told my cousin, who was standing 577 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: there in shock, but she wasn't hearing anything. She was 578 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,959 Speaker 1: just you know, she wasn't shock. And that split second, 579 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: all I thought about was my baby upstairs. Her daddy 580 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: is away, and I couldn't die on the streets. So 581 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: I got up because she wasn't hearing anything. I'm calling 582 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: her name, So I got up. It was a guy 583 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: from my block name John, getting a cab because I 584 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: was like, yo, I'm hit. I just knew it, and 585 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: we got the cab home. Hospital was about maybe three 586 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: blocks down and one block over, so a camp happened 587 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: to be right there on the corner. As god, yeah, 588 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, so I jumped in a cab. We got there. 589 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: They immediately started hearing my clothes off. The bullet went 590 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: straight through about that maybe maybe an inch away from 591 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: my spine, and it came out of my breast um. 592 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: And um. They just started to operate. Not no, not operate. 593 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: They cut me under my own. They give me a 594 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: chest too, because I actually was bleeding internally. So had 595 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: I laid on the ground, my lungs would have filled 596 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: up like every little minute. Yeah, I would have his 597 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: mother to death, especially when fifty fell in front of me. 598 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: His name is fifty, And that's a second when I 599 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: imagine my daughter stays her daddy. As a way, I've 600 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: seen white sheets all my life on the ground, and 601 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not gonna be on the white 602 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: sheet on this ground like my parents and my fair 603 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: They not see that. So that's what made me get 604 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: to the hospital. Man. They did good. Yeah, they did good. 605 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm still here. Yeah, I'm telling y'all. When I was 606 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: reading your book, I was like, this is a strong 607 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: woman like and I'm just so happy that you came 608 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: out with your story because, like I said, we don't 609 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: really hear this one a lot. I think you're the 610 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: only woman that I ever heard about back in the day. 611 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: Like you don't really hear the women who did talk 612 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: about it, they was either doing the drugs or they 613 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: was messing with the guys. But like you was really 614 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: a part of it. And like for you to be 615 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: here now and telling your story and like encouraging people 616 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: and to go the opposite way because it's not what 617 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: it used to be in and then it's we're good. 618 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: It's really not that it's not what it used to be. 619 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: It's not what everybody thought exactly because they looked at 620 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: it from the outside looking in. Okay, from the outside 621 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: you will see calls first, you'll see guys getting money. 622 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: But on the inside, even me being the girl or 623 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: the wife of somebody in it, their stresses. You know, 624 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: you have to think of you have to think about 625 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: the people who the snakes, like the ones that volved me. 626 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: You know that that business wasn't you know, they see 627 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: the glamor of it, but they don't see the hard 628 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: work and the stress behind it, and the danger is 629 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: behind it. So That's why I sit in a book. 630 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: You know, was it all worth it? You know, going 631 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: through the things that were going through the people that 632 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: we lost from the game. Um So, I know we 633 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: just spoke about your brother, your brother's passing, and to 634 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: this took still to this day, is still affects you. Um, 635 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: I know you spoke about the shiny suit man in 636 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: his situation. How does it feel when you still see 637 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: him the shiny suitman now and he's portraying a different 638 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: story to what the story you actually live? It sometimes 639 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: makes me laugh. It I wouldn't say I get mad. 640 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: It only angers me because you wasn't That wasn't your life. 641 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: I know why you ran, and everybody else knows because 642 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: you wasn't built like that And it's okay because everybody 643 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: is not a gangster, and it's okay. And you definitely 644 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: said that too, you know. So when I see him 645 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: and he says, oh, nobody chased me out of New York. 646 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: Who leaves a flourishing rap career, who ends up with 647 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: their own label that's flourishing, to just disappear, to go 648 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: completely the opposite up New York, become a preacher or 649 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: a reference and then after you think the smoke clears, 650 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: you come back on that racket, right, It's like, come on, 651 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: just like free yourself from that because I know he 652 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: still walks with that all the time. Because you know 653 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: why you left, you know, hopefully made him get down. 654 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: You know, we could sit down and talk. Don't think 655 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: you're bothering you though I had gave it to go 656 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: on a long time ago. Yeah, I mean, I know 657 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: Tim Hills everything, but you know, certain things like somebody's 658 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: not being here anymore that was very close to me, 659 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: Like like I don't know because I feel like certain 660 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: things bothered me. That happened a couple of years ago. 661 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: So I can imagine with this situation, especially somebody truly 662 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: and firmly believed that they have anything to do with 663 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: it right now, for him to keep up the lie 664 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: and to sit with me and say that's not why 665 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: when you know it is, it's like you. That would 666 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: be impossible for him to do because I was there, 667 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: you right, I messed up and I ran because of that. 668 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, but don't get up on all these 669 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: radio stations and safe because it's just even cool. Yeah, 670 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: me and him go way back because I know who 671 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: you were saying that. One day you was walking, he 672 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: came up to you and he was expressing to you 673 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: how like he's taught people always with their hands out 674 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: and all this other stuff. My uncle, he always say, 675 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: my uncle staying was the first person to buy him 676 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: some sneakers when he was playing ball. So we go back, 677 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: you know. Uh so you know, me and him can 678 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: definitely sit down and have a conversation, but it would 679 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: have to be a conversation where everybody's sitting there being 680 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: totally honest, because I think that if the platforms that 681 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: he'd go on, like the Breakfast Club on Andy Martinez Show, 682 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: and if he was to say, listen, somebody that I 683 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: know was out the industry that was killing up stuff 684 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: or had the ability all the money to do it, 685 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I ran everybody in the room was going 686 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: to respect that, because who's going to stay there and 687 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: get killed. You're not a gun slinger. You you did 688 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: the smart thing. He did the smart thing. I don't 689 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: know what was going to happen to him, if anything was, 690 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: but the fact that my little brother felt disrespected, because 691 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: I believe him and his I believe Jimmie's girlfriend and 692 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: Mace had a relationship, right, Yeah, maybe some years ago. 693 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: It was a song with some kind of disrespect that 694 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: went on and he felt like I need you as 695 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: a man to come and talk to me, and that 696 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: didn't happen, and that's why this whole thing kind of 697 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: spiraled out of control. Well, you definitely said that money 698 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: and pussy was the two ways of having issues with people. 699 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: As far as men in the game, money and pussy 700 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: will do it. Yeah, that's a fact, especially when you 701 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: have women who you're trying to get head, so they 702 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: all set anybody up or just to be malicious. Um, 703 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: would you say was it all worth it? M hmm, Yeah, 704 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: that's a whole question. Was it all worth it? I 705 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: would say I would say no, But then I don't 706 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: want to say that because, like I said, I wouldn't 707 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: have a story today to tell people what really was 708 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: going on from a woman's perspective, who was there? And 709 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: was it all worth it? If my story can help anybody, Yeah, yeah, 710 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you man. Um, well, that's not advice you 711 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: would have gave to your younger self. Looking back. Oh 712 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: my god. I graduated high school in eight seven. I 713 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: went to college for nursing. I would have told my 714 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: younger self, even though I was in there, I still 715 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: could have continued with college and I probably would have 716 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: been a nurse twenty five something years in the game already. 717 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: But at that age, in around like eighty nine when 718 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: I got with my or ninety when I got when 719 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: my daughter's father, and back then, none of us knew 720 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: or even thought the money would stop or come to 721 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: an end. You know. That's why a lot of us 722 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: stayed in it, or a lot of men, because the 723 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: money was coming so fast and so plentiful. It just 724 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: looked like it would never stop. Wow. But the reality 725 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: is that it would or somebody would either killed you 726 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 1: for it. So you know, my money my problem. Yes, absolutely, 727 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: so I definitely would have stayed in school. Yeah, and 728 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: you know, I really had a career in nursing because 729 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: I love helping people. You know, I love that you're 730 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: in the same field. But yeah, so, last, but not least, 731 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: what if some advice you would give to women out 732 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: there that want to be a part of the mix 733 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: of what I was in before. It doesn't exist. It's 734 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: not worth it. The money back then, for all of 735 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: us chaps that was in it, it was worth it. 736 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: But now to deal with that, I would say, it's 737 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: really nothing to get into you know, if you if 738 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: you mess with it, has really changed that much? Yes, 739 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: I have, Yes, I think so. I think any hustler, 740 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: real hustlers say is definitely not the same. Not saying 741 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: that people are not getting money out there, because they 742 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:33,280 Speaker 1: still are. But is the risk worth the reward because again, 743 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: like with the whole opioid situation, they are sending people 744 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: away for a long time. Although there's a new bill 745 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: that was passed as far as the Fear is the 746 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: Fear Sentencing Acts, so you can't get so much time 747 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: for it. But is that something that you really want 748 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: to do? Like I said, if you're smart enough to 749 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: run a drug operation, you can run a legitimate business. 750 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: I always say that if you want to legitimize your money, 751 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: you want to do your little one to step in 752 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: legit minage your money. Okay, mm hmm, do it and 753 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: teach your kids something, teach to lead around something something. 754 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, legitimize your money. It's not 755 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: really worth you know, the risk and somebody killing you 756 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: today over a couple of dollars. No, Yeah, that's crazy 757 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: because I remember when you was in your book, you 758 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: were saying like you have bags, some money like and 759 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: then for people to rob you for what, to risk 760 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: somebody life for what? Well, guys, I am excited. I 761 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: cannot wait to hear your feedback. UM. If you want 762 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: to know more about my guests and her book, please 763 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: email me at hell out the Professional homegold dot com. 764 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 1: Telling y'all, her book was amazing. It's a good read, 765 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: very informative. I think you're gonna be able to put 766 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: a lot of pieces together, especially if you're fascinating or 767 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: just want to know more about this culture. Um, and 768 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: that's it, Joab. I'm really excited by today's episode. This 769 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: is like one of the best episodes over. Um, until 770 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: next time, guys later. Okay, seems