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Speaker 1: What's happening everybody. Welcome in to the Tuesday editione at

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access and yes we are in draft month.

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Speaker 1: Happy July. First man who is not excited about training camp.

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Speaker 1: Check your pulse. Welcome in to our very first July

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Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access from the other Texans Radio studios,

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Speaker 1: still the multile version. John Harrison playing on the Siloin

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Speaker 1: Reporter your host coming to you with plenty this evening.

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Speaker 1: We've got two Texans gonna join us, Damian Pierce Stepton

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Speaker 1: Studio with Mark and myself. That was a blast, and

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Speaker 1: rookie tight end Luke Leshe, very impressive guy NFL DNA.

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Speaker 1: In his background, his dad played was an outstanding off

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Speaker 1: its alignment Ohio State back in the day. We talk

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Speaker 1: about his dad calling games for Ohiose State that his

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Speaker 1: son was playing in for the opposition, the Iowah Haawkey.

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Speaker 1: So we get into a lot of that. So Damian Pierce,

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Speaker 1: Luke Liche a little later in the show. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna kick off the show with my good Pali reporter

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Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. One of the best you're gonna find.

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Speaker 1: Sal Capacio all right joining me now is one of

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Speaker 1: my great friends. Uh he is seemingly my brother from

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Speaker 1: an Italian mother. Sala capaccio, silent reporter with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: You still hear him on wg R in Buffalo and

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Speaker 1: you're not seeing this interview. But just prior to starting it,

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Speaker 1: you grabbed your Aaron Judge bobblehead behind me as if

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Speaker 1: to say, look at my guy, Aaron Judge. And yet

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Speaker 1: where are the Astros and Yankees right now? What's where

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Speaker 1: are they sitting right now?

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Speaker 2: I think the ass probably passed them now, the Astros

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Speaker 2: passed them. I think they have. Record wise, Yanks were

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Speaker 2: really hot and then they then they had a six game

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Speaker 2: losing streak. But we'll see what happens, you know again

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Speaker 2: come October, right. I mean I will respect. I'll say this.

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Speaker 2: I respect what the Astros have been able to kind

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Speaker 2: of retool here because for a while they were getting

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Speaker 2: a little older and then they those bragman you know now,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look where they are again. It's some I

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Speaker 2: have a lot of respect for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing they've been able to do. You know,

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Speaker 1: I poke at you. I mean, obviously there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of respect for Aaron Judge in this in this city

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Speaker 1: and for the Yankees, but just to see what they've

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Speaker 1: been able to do has been kind of nice. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I always like to jab at you with

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Speaker 1: the Astros, for sure, but I want to talk ball

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Speaker 1: with you, of course, and that being the pigskink kind.

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Speaker 1: I just got to get vibes in Buffalo right now.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, coming off MVP season, came up just short

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Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. I know this is all kind of

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Speaker 1: painful when you hear it in a sense. What's the

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Speaker 1: off season been like in Buffalo? What are the vibes

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Speaker 1: like in Buffalo right now as you headed into twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously there's only really one thing left to accomplish

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Speaker 2: on the field for the Bills, and that's too. I

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Speaker 2: would say, if you want to say two things, get

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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl they haven't done that yet, and

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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl, right. I mean, they've been here

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Speaker 2: many times and I think we've talked about this before,

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Speaker 2: but you know it grows every year, which is the

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Speaker 2: fan base's kind of I would say love hate a

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Speaker 2: kind of relationship with Sean McDermott because they love the

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Speaker 2: fact of what he's done for the organization. But there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of fans who believe that maybe they've hit

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Speaker 2: their ceiling with Sean McDermott. That's a lot of the

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Speaker 2: talk all the time, it doesn't matter what the Bills do,

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Speaker 2: what move they make. I will always hear from fans

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Speaker 2: them so far and then you make a change. I

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Speaker 2: don't agree with that. I think Shawn's an excellent coach.

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Speaker 2: Just because you lose to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 2: and the playoffs, who are you know, the the dynasty

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Speaker 2: of this you know AFC iteration. Yeah, I mean doesn't

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Speaker 2: know what, they've lost by a field goal each in

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Speaker 2: the last two years. But that's number one. Number two

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Speaker 2: here I think we see what the Bills have done.

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Speaker 2: They've resigned their own John and their own are pretty good, right,

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Speaker 2: but that was to get ready for this year. So

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Speaker 2: that's why I think Bills fans are happy about Christian

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Speaker 2: win a super Bowl with Josh Allen, That's why he

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Speaker 1: I think Christian Benford is the most underrated player in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I think he is absolutely fantastic. And I

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Speaker 1: that and perhaps there's some contract situations going on with

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Speaker 1: running back James Cook. So where do we stand with

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Speaker 1: James Cook and the extension and whether he'll come back,

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Speaker 1: whether he'll hold out. I know he's back for Mini

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Speaker 1: That don't care.

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Speaker 3: He's just great at.

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Speaker 2: What he does.

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Speaker 2: So James Cook, you know that's a situation where the Bills,

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Speaker 2: about Khalishakure, Terrell Bernard, Christian, Benford and James Cook all

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Speaker 2: And you know, I think I know that Joe Shane

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Speaker 2: because the Bills aren't paying Josh Allen fifty million dollars

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Speaker 2: a year to hand the ball off, right, That's not

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: As much as they love James Cook, I think there's

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Speaker 2: I have to always tell them. It's not the Bills

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Speaker 2: don't want to sign James Cook. They do. They love

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Speaker 2: James Cook, they don't want to sign up for what

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Speaker 2: he wants. The value is what matters here, right, they

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Speaker 2: You show up, you don't get fine, but you don't

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Speaker 2: do anything. However, his own actions and words about why

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Speaker 2: he was at mini camp, yes, I love my money,

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Speaker 2: and he said, and I think this one went a notice.

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Speaker 2: People said, well, you also could have just come here

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Speaker 2: and not got fine, but not done anything. He goes, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be a leader, and this is my

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Speaker 2: be at camp. I think he'll practice, but I think

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Speaker 2: the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen MVP last year. No, we saw him in

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Speaker 1: and that I feel like that was more about what

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Speaker 1: The Texans did that to Jerreed Goff, they did to

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Speaker 1: other than Will Levis seemingly and Lamar Jackson, that's a

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Speaker 1: different story. That didn't have success against the Texans that

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Speaker 1: Josh didn't. But from that game forward, Josh was tremendous.

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Speaker 1: He deserve the MVP, There's no question about that. But

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Speaker 1: there's always that, Yeah, But and he hasn't gotten to

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Speaker 1: it time you got us a championship? How much of

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Speaker 1: that is kind of being talked about or is it? Hey,

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Speaker 1: Josh isn't even the issue. This shouldn't even talked about.

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Speaker 1: Josh is the guy that gets us here. It's everything

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Speaker 1: else that has to improve around him. Which one is

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Speaker 1: it kind of for Josh Darren Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Totally the second piece, I'll go back to what I

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Speaker 2: said earlier, it's Sean McDermott. For everybody, it's Brandon Bean

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Speaker 2: in some ways, for everybody, it's not Josh Allen. It's

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Speaker 2: in fact, I would say people in Buffalo go so

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Speaker 2: far as to say that, you know, those guys because

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Speaker 2: of Josh is why they're even still in their position,

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Speaker 2: and you know they're the reason why that they're the

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think it takes all of them, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it. We talked about this for years of

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Speaker 2: past where from the ground floor building a quarterback right

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Speaker 2: of really having a plan for a quarterback and what

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Speaker 2: you guys did was CJ there a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: You see where everybodys on the same page, and if

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Speaker 2: you're not on the same page, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: make adjustments to make sure everybody's on the same page.

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Speaker 2: And the Bills had that when they came in, when

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Speaker 2: they drafted him with you know, Brandon Bean and Sean

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Speaker 2: I think it took everybody. But let's be honest, he is,

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Speaker 2: you know, unbelievable at what he does. He is arguably

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Speaker 2: players in the league. He's the league MVP for a reason.

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Speaker 2: No one here in Buffalo has any question whatsoever about

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Speaker 2: if Josh Allen can or can't get the Bills to

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. Yeah, I think the question is does

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Speaker 2: he have enough around him at wide receiver to get

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Speaker 2: him there? And do they have the right coach to

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Speaker 2: get him there. That's what people ask here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: That's where that goes. And it's funny going back to

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Speaker 2: that game. You're right, I think also that's why you

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Speaker 2: saw a few games of the Texans game. That's why

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Speaker 2: you saw it. Just a few weeks later, the Bills

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Speaker 2: traded for Amari Cooper. They needed more, they needed more

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Speaker 2: around Josh, And I think that that's been a bit

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Speaker 2: of a talk. You saw the clip Brandon Bean was

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Speaker 1: And that's a great question in which leads me to

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Speaker 1: Elijah Moore I think is a very underrated signing. I

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Speaker 1: when you look at what's there at receiver style, do

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Speaker 1: elevate him as well? Is they're enough there?

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Speaker 2: that might be lying in what kind of receivers you have?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: I think what Josh and what this offense lacked last

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean by that. That's what Stephan was.

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Speaker 2: That's what Stepan was for josh yep, and they moved

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Speaker 2: we're you got a wide receiver, he signs Elijah Moore, right,

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Speaker 2: So that happened. I do think that the Bills believe

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Speaker 2: and I don't think people realize it's a it's a

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Speaker 2: Gonna blow your mind, John, I don't think you've been

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Speaker 2: covering football a long time. I don't know if I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen this, and I don't know if you've ever

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Speaker 2: seen this. The Buffalo Bills have every single offensive player

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Speaker 2: That's it. They went out and they replaced them with

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Speaker 2: not talking about draft picks. They brought guys in a draft. Sure,

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Speaker 2: They have two changes, Joshua Palmer and Elijah Moore replaced

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Speaker 2: every season he's been in this league has been better

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Speaker 2: last year in Buffalo. Okay, I mean I'm talking you

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Speaker 2: think about this, John. The Bills have every single offensive

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Speaker 2: a really good offensive line. They set records with keeping

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Speaker 2: josh healthy. That's a big key for them. Keep josh healthy,

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Speaker 2: you have a strong running game that includes James Cook obviously,

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Speaker 2: and everything else will fall into place. That's their philosophy.

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Speaker 1: So to take the next step? Sal And that's the question.

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Speaker 1: You know, you and I are both asked. You know,

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Speaker 1: So in your mind, what is it that pushes them

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Speaker 2: Well, I think one thing is on the field, and

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Speaker 2: one thing that has stopped them, John, they have not

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: The Bills, because they couldn't get to Patrick Mahomes multiple

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Speaker 2: times of the playoffs cost them the game. That's the

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Speaker 2: difference between these teams winning and losing. The Bills offense

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Speaker 2: scored twenty nine points last year, they still lost to

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Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. So that's number one. And that's

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Speaker 2: why where Joey Bosa comes in. That's where Landon Jackson

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Speaker 1: Frown the university. Michaelot Brown University, Let's.

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Speaker 2: Go Canadian too. Is a Canadian guy. So is Joshua Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know it sounds kind of funny, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: they haven't done since this has all started. They haven't

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Speaker 2: that first week totally not getting that by and then

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Speaker 2: all you got to do is win one game. I

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Speaker 2: say it like it's easy, but all you gotta do

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Speaker 2: I mean that, That's really what it comes down to

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Speaker 1: This is an easy answer. I think, is there anybody

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Speaker 2: No, not scares you from a standpoint of do you

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Speaker 2: think they're actually good enough to compete from end to end,

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Speaker 2: But I think talent wise, Miami certainly has the ability

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Speaker 2: They still don't have enough playmakers, right. I really like

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I answered or asked us

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Speaker 2: So I think it's front office and ownership related more

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Speaker 2: You have a guy and Chris Greer who's been running

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Speaker 2: they're also trying to win at times. And I don't

431
00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,440
Speaker 2: think that's a really good formula. It's hard to do.

432
00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,119
Speaker 2: In the NFL. You almost have to go all in

433
00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,240
Speaker 2: or say no, this is yeah, you know it isn't

434
00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,720
Speaker 2: app I'll say it this way. You got to know

435
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,359
Speaker 2: who you are, and sometimes I don't know if the

436
00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,080
Speaker 2: Dolphins know who they are in that respect.

437
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. That's a good way of

438
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,399
Speaker 1: putting it. Man, There's no there's no doubt about it,

439
00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,560
Speaker 1: okay either or question, you could play the AFC Championship

440
00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,280
Speaker 1: game at home against and I think I know the

441
00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,200
Speaker 1: answer to this, but I want you to explain. You're

442
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 1: played at home against the Chiefs of the Ravens AFC

443
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 1: Championship sixty minutes Orchard Park. This is is this the

444
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,680
Speaker 1: last year or next year? Last year in the stadium.

445
00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,200
Speaker 2: This is the last year we got. We got one

446
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,200
Speaker 2: season left.

447
00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so last game when you get up, Yeah, AFC Championship.

448
00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 1: You could pick your team to go to the Super Bowl,

449
00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,680
Speaker 1: Chiefs or Ravens.

450
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,040
Speaker 2: Without knowing the result. Like if I could, if I

451
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 2: could write the script on who they beat, it would

452
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,399
Speaker 2: be the Chiefs. But without knowing, without knowing, without knowing

453
00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,360
Speaker 2: the result, I'm picking the Ravens because I just think

454
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,880
Speaker 2: all the ghosts of the Chiefs are tough to play

455
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 2: against when it comes to the Bills in the playoffs,

456
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,960
Speaker 2: and it is Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, there's no

457
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,919
Speaker 2: doubt about that. I mean history matters, right. I know

458
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,920
Speaker 2: Lamar played a good game last year. He didn't play

459
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,239
Speaker 2: a bad game and made a couple He also made

460
00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 2: a couple of mistakes. And the talk is, once you

461
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 2: get to the playoffs, you know you forced Lamar and

462
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 2: a couple of mistakes. He wants to go overdo some things.

463
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 2: That hasn't been the case with you know, Patrick Mahomes.

464
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,560
Speaker 2: So I think if I could write the perfect script Hollywood, right,

465
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,080
Speaker 2: your daughter's are part of the movie here. If I

466
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,520
Speaker 2: could do that, I'm picking the Chiefs for the Bills

467
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,520
Speaker 2: to win the Hois Stuff the trophy. But if you

468
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 2: tell me you could knock the Chiefs out and you

469
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 2: get the Ravens, I'd rather have that scenario going into

470
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:27,879
Speaker 2: the game.

471
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that I've thought about which team I'd want to

472
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Speaker 1: see ANFC Championship game for playing at a home And

473
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Speaker 1: I don't know that there's a really good answer, because

474
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,960
Speaker 1: because Lamar is total kryptonite for us, we have never

475
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,280
Speaker 1: beaten Lamar. We have we have never beaten the Ravens

476
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,879
Speaker 1: with Lamar and in some cases, I don't even know

477
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 1: that any game has been close, not that I think

478
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 1: about it. And in fact, Christmas Day was just an embarrassment.

479
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 1: So it's almost like I'd rather face the Chiefs. Like

480
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,880
Speaker 1: even twenty twenty two we've played played the Chiefs at home.

481
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 1: We went overtime and we were terrible. We had a

482
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Speaker 1: number two pick in that draft. You know, last year

483
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,439
Speaker 1: we were in the ball game with them into the

484
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter and just that.

485
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 2: But if we're playing some of it is up here, right, John,

486
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 2: it's mental, I think that's what it is. I mean

487
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 2: to think about what you just said, which is amazing

488
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 2: to me. For the Texans, they take on the Ravens,

489
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 2: it's like, man, we can't beat this guy. You're already

490
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 2: kind of defeated in some way. Right, Absolutely, That's the

491
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Speaker 2: way it is with the Bills and the Chiefs in

492
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Even though the Bills beat him in the

493
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Speaker 2: regular season, you get to the playoffs is a totally

494
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Speaker 2: different story. Everybody's reminding you of that all week.

495
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Speaker 3: Yep.

496
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and it's a kind of the last place you

497
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Speaker 1: want to be. And then mentally, like I didn't just

498
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 1: think for us getting those games at home matters, and

499
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Speaker 1: I just don't want it to be a situation, well,

500
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Speaker 1: oh my god, we haven't been AFC Championship games since

501
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. Is the first one we've ever played

502
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: in this city. Mark and I have already talked about this.

503
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 1: Now it'll be when the Texas played the AFC Championship

504
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: Game in Houston. It'll be the most it'll be the

505
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Speaker 1: biggest game that's ever taken place in the city of

506
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Speaker 1: Houston ever from a football standpoint. Once you play the

507
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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game, that's a lot of that's a lot

508
00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: of freaking pressure that you know, hope we were passed

509
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,479
Speaker 1: and we're beyond. But you know, so be it got

510
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: to get there. I got maybe it's you and I.

511
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: Maybe it's you and I in late January for a

512
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Speaker 1: chance to go Super Bowl, which I would love in

513
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Speaker 1: eight l at the same time.

514
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Speaker 2: No doubt. I gotta tell you, we're doing a lot

515
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,400
Speaker 2: of stuff this year with the new the old stadium,

516
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 2: like the current stadium closing. Right, everybody's looking back and

517
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 2: it's been fifty two years John inside the stadium.

518
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Speaker 3: Right wow.

519
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Speaker 2: And you know, obviously not to bring up bad memories,

520
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: but people talk about the greatest comeback in the NFL

521
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: history as the greatest game ever played there. I actually,

522
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Speaker 2: I do think it might be one of the greatest moments.

523
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: The Bills winning to go to the go to their

524
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: first AFC Championship game in ninety to go to the

525
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Speaker 2: Super Boy. But they meet the Raiders fifty one to three.

526
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Speaker 1: Smoked them.

527
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

528
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Speaker 2: I was there as a senior in high school. It's

529
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Speaker 2: forty one to three at a halftime. I mean it

530
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: was a party in the second half. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

531
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 2: Getting that game at home and it was was unbelievable.

532
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Speaker 2: But I will tell you the other one that goes

533
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Speaker 2: under the radar. I was at the first ever game,

534
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 2: first ever playoff game inside this stadium. That was also

535
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: the Houston Oilers wild Card nineteen eighty eight. Curtis Duncan

536
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: gets the most stripped of him. Kurtis Duncan has a

537
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 2: ball stripped of him his college roommate Steve Tasker. Right,

538
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: I mean, but Houston Buffalo some and then obviously in

539
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 2: Houston the Bills go and lose in twenty nineteen. Right,

540
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: there's been some interesting and really memorable playoff moments.

541
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Speaker 1: There definitely has. Yeah, it's funny. I have a friend

542
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: of mine, Jeff Bloomquist. Jeff's the best. He was a

543
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: year behind me, so he was your year and he

544
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget when I saw him. He was a

545
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: he was a defensive back like Iowa. So we are

546
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: in defensive being defensive back, meeting rooms and such, and

547
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: he goes John because I was walking out the door

548
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: and he said his buddy wanted to get another beer.

549
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Speaker 1: And he's like, that's what caused him to stay for

550
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: the first few minutes after the interception made three and

551
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: he ends up staying for the game and he just

552
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: is telling me the story and I was like, I

553
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: just I want to punch you right now, because reliving

554
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: that game is something nobody in the city of Houston

555
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: to do, and really, in all honesty, for Houston fans,

556
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: it probably would do them some good to beat Buffalo

557
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship. You know, the wildcard win was

558
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 1: great and that helped, but there's still plenty of them

559
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: in my demographic that are like, they want to beat

560
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: the Bills to kind of cleanse themselves from that moment.

561
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: But I think it's kind of the same for us.

562
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people here just want to

563
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs. It's can we be the team? And

564
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys feel this way. Can we be

565
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: the team that knocks off the Chiefs, that ends the run,

566
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: that stops the rain. It's all over, and it's because

567
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: of us. There's a part of me that wants us

568
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: to be that team, to be able to do it.

569
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: I don't imagine there's a little bit of you guys

570
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Speaker 1: that wants to do it. Other than just getting the

571
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I want to be that team that shuts

572
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: it down. It's done, it's over. That day we do

573
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: you know what I want?

574
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 2: I want someone from the freaking AFC West to step up.

575
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 2: That's what I want someone, Theos, right, Broncos, Chargers, whoever

576
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: it is, do something to step up to not allow

577
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: that team. You know, it's funny because the Chiefs were

578
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: winning all these late lucky quote unquote games last year, right,

579
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 2: and the Bills had a really good record all year,

580
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 2: and we're all like, yeah, they're gonna eventually catch them.

581
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: And then they even beat them, and they couldn't catch

582
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: them because of it, which is what cost them having

583
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 2: the one seed at the end of the day, no

584
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: doubt about it. What you said about wanting to beat

585
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: that team, exercising demons, that's what it was for Bill's

586
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: Patriots for many years, right, And you know what happened.

587
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: They finally came to Buffalo in a playoff game, and

588
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: I know that Brady had moved on and it was

589
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: Mac Jones. But that's when we call the perfect games.

590
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 2: Bill score seven straight times and the demons were just

591
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: exercised and that was it. And I think everybody felt

592
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: so good and cleansed about that.

593
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think each team's got to go through that,

594
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. Well said my friends. SalCo Paccio Salom

595
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 1: reporter for Buffalo Bills. You can hear them on WGR

596
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: and Buffalo does some incredible work. There's no doubt, Sally,

597
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: you're the best brother. Have a great rest of the summer,

598
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: and I know we'll catch up soon, maybe training camp.

599
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: My friends, you got it too, buddy.

600
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

601
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Speaker 1: As I was editing our interview for the air this evening,

602
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: I realized we had another, like I don't know, ten

603
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Speaker 1: minutes of discussion and we were diving to all kinds

604
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Speaker 1: of things Hard Knocks Greenbrier. He was asking me what

605
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: it was like with Hard Knocks. I I had a

606
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: problem with Hard Knocks. All they did they took over

607
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: our radio studio where our rio studio is now, and

608
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: that became command center. That was pretty cool. We were

609
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Speaker 1: in the radio studio next door and it was fine.

610
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they never felt intrusive. In fact, they got

611
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: to know the NFL films guys a little bit. I'd

612
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: see me on the road like, hey man, you know

613
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: they were there for so long, so you know, they

614
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: got a trip to Richmond and one of the I

615
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: think one of my favorite Hard Knocks moments I think

616
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Speaker 1: I've ever ever seen, and it just happened to be

617
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: that first episode. There was so much packed in that

618
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: first episode of Hard Knocks, and then at the very end,

619
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Speaker 1: we're up in Richmond and that third day. Don't know

620
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Speaker 1: why we did a third day of practices. That was

621
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Speaker 1: kind of dumb because my third day, all this is

622
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: just you're trying to right right scores from the previous days,

623
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Speaker 1: right the wrongs from the previous days, and you know,

624
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: you got oh man twenty three did me wrong yesterday.

625
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get him. And so it turned in

626
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: to the brawl and it was like seeks two degrees

627
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: and it was rainy cold. I remember Drew and I

628
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: were off of the corner watching practice together. We had

629
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Speaker 1: our hands and our shirts and just dying, and all

630
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: of a sudden, this big fight breaks out. So in

631
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks they got all this going on. They got

632
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff from that joint practice session

633
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: with at the time the Redskins. And then right at

634
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: the very end, you see Jjo standing next to Kareem,

635
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: which was absolute. They were those two hours next to

636
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: each other, and Jjo's like, man, let's get the bleep

637
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: out of Richmond. Fade to black, just like right there,

638
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: It's like it was the perfect way to end that

639
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: particular Hard Knocks episode, and it ended up out. The

640
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: Texans episodes in twenty fifteen were great, and then in

641
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: the last one you can hear me call the game

642
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: with Mark. Before that case, Andre at a college game

643
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: he had to do, and so I got a chance

644
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: to have my voice on Hard Knocks, which was very cool,

645
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: and Sala was very envious to that. But then again, Salzman,

646
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Speaker 1: I'm the McAfee, so you know, to each their own.

647
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: So anyway, Saco Paccio saw the reporter for the Buffalo Bills.

648
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Speaker 1: I hope you guys appreciated that. Trying to bring out

649
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,479
Speaker 1: some dudes that I love that no ball and it's

650
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: always fun no matter what team they cover, if they

651
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: know a ball, they can make it very interesting. And

652
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: South definitely does that.

653
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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, we got a two on one with one

655
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: of our favorite people in the building. He's also a

656
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: guy that I get asked about probably more than any

657
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: other player, and I'm not talking just people I see

658
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: in Houston. The two interviews that I was able to

659
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: do yesterday, one with James Palmer and one with sal

660
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: both of them asked about Damien when we were off

661
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: the air, both of them. Damian Pierce is that guy?

662
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: So many people want to know, Hey, what's going on

663
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: with Damien? How are things with Damien? He gonna be healthy,

664
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: gonna be ready to go, Like, is there something up?

665
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna see him. What's going on? Well, let the

666
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: man tell you himself. Damian Pierce coming up next right

667
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Speaker 1: here at Texans All Access. Step and everybody walking back

668
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: to this Tuesday edition of Texans All Access from Monday

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris, your host football

670
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: and US side. I lot a reporter for your Houston

671
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: Texans and out on the West Coast as we speak. Actually,

672
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even I shouldn't say that. I'm not really

673
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: on the West coast. I've been on the West Coast,

674
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: but now I'm actually making my way back and hopefully

675
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: being Houston over the next few days. But doesn't matter.

676
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: We got you covered on the show this evening. Now,

677
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: as I was out in La one day, my daughter

678
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: had some work to do and I kind of had

679
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: a i don't know, an hour or so to kind

680
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: of kick around finally and just kind of sit down.

681
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: And so I was just going down a wormhole of Texans.

682
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: I saw one YouTube video that was Texans Bill's crazy ending. Oh, okay,

683
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: let's remember this, let's watch this, and so it was

684
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: like the last game minutes, three minutes and nineteen seconds,

685
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: and so I went back and watched that. Then it

686
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: was like, oh, watch this ending, and I can't remember

687
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: who was. Then it was like Texans Bengals, like, oh,

688
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: I gotta watch this ending, and then it was I

689
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: think it was Texans Broncos from twenty twenty three. And

690
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: as I'm watching, there's Damian Pierce. I see Damien make

691
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: a couple of really nice runs. I'm like, oh, that's

692
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: a nice run.

693
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Speaker 3: I like that.

694
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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good run Damien. Oh man, look at

695
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: the juice on this. They got me thinking about Damian Pierce,

696
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: and that made me essentially want to put Damien in

697
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: the show this evening because we had a chance to

698
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: catch up with Damien Mark and I did. It was

699
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: a fun interview. A lot of people ask me about Damien.

700
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about just in Houston. I said it earlier.

701
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: Both James Walmer Sack Paccio both asked me about Damien, like, Hey,

702
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: what's the deal with Damien. He's very intriguing. People want

703
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: to know, especially after that good Ricky year. But man,

704
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: I was watching those games from twenty three and seeing

705
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: him run the bottom. I'm like, man, we get that

706
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce at twenty twenty five. Man, there's a chance

707
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: to have one of the better running games in the NFL.

708
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: If that were to happen and Nick Chubb stayed healthy

709
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: and obviously Joe staying healthy. You gotta you get three

710
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: guys that can run the rock like that. Now we've

711
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: talked about how difficult this is of a cut. It's

712
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna be at running back, but Damian Pierce, unfazed, just

713
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: gonna come back, do his work and let the results

714
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Speaker 1: speak for themselves. Here's Damian Pierce with Mark and myself.

715
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Speaker 5: In studio right now.

716
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Speaker 6: Damian Pierce, what a pleasure it is to see in

717
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Speaker 6: my friend.

718
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 5: How's it going, man?

719
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Speaker 4: What a pleasure to be batman. Everything's amazing, man, All right,

720
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: great to see it.

721
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Speaker 6: And let's let's talk a little bit here because this

722
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 6: a new season, new kickoff rule too, or adjustment we

723
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 6: had it last year, adjustment to this year. And look,

724
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Speaker 6: your job description includes so many different things, but you

725
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 6: gotta be excited about that.

726
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 5: We'll get to all of it. But how are you

727
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 5: feeling coming into twenty twenty five?

728
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Speaker 7: Here?

729
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Speaker 3: Dad, coming to twenty five.

730
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Speaker 4: Man, it's just like I say, Man, it's another year,

731
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: had a long had a long offseason, had a productive

732
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 4: off season. I actually say that, you know, getting back home,

733
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: getting backgrounded, coming back here, ready to work. So I

734
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 4: wanted to get here thing out to wat When I

735
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 4: hit Houston, I can hit the ground.

736
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Speaker 3: Rnny.

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Speaker 1: This is year four. Like Mark and I have to

738
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: pitch ourselves like, wait, it's year four. I mean stinging

739
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: year four, Petrion, year four. I mean, it feels like

740
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: you've been here for a while, but it feels like

741
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: you just got here. So I'm asking this question We've

742
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: been asking people all along. Damian Pierce going into year four,

743
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: flash back to your rookie year, Damian Pierce. What piece

744
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: of advice would fourth year Damian Pierce give to rookie

745
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce. One piece of advice? One just one, just one.

746
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: That's your best part, my best one. If you're early

747
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 4: on time, okay, Okay, I know that I know where

748
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: that one's going.

749
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: I know where that's going.

750
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: Okay.

751
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: So be on time, be early, early, early on time.

752
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 5: Yea, Damien. I think everybody wants to know this.

753
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 6: Last year, well, we all saw what you did in

754
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 6: your rookie year, and we all saw what you did

755
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 6: against Tennessee last year. This offense the way you understand

756
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 6: it right now, because I know we have a long

757
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 6: way to go, your training camp and everything, but the

758
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 6: way you understand things to be with this offense, how

759
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 6: do you fit? Does it fit you better? Perhaps? Or

760
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 6: am I putting too much into that? You tell me?

761
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: I think you putting just a little, just a little

762
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: too much.

763
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: It just comes down to how coach Kayley has organized

764
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 4: and taught the playbook. You know, it's a it's one

765
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: thing to have a lot of plays and you know,

766
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: have a lot of players that you're disposed, Oh we

767
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 4: got this for that situation. But if everybody don't understand

768
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: it and they don't click and stick, it's kind of

769
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 4: hard to go out there on game, big game. They'd

770
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: be completely confident in what you're doing. So coach Kelly

771
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: has done a great job of you know, micro managing

772
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: the playbook these these last three weeks, you know, with

773
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: phase one, Phase two, Phase three, you know, he's just

774
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: been introducing bit by bit and we've just been understanding

775
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: the whole picture as offense just that way. And he's

776
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 4: you can tell him, man, he brings the juice every day.

777
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: He's enthusiastic about what he does. He believes in what

778
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: he does, and that's what we binding too. That's what

779
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 4: we're doing right now. This ot ot a is for

780
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 4: like we're buying there now. We're trusting what he got

781
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: got on the paper. And everybody seemed comfortable to me.

782
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: That's one thing I can definitely tell you from last

783
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 4: year coming this year, everybody seems comfortable. Everybody seems confident

784
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 4: in what they're doing. And man, we got some good

785
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 4: things growing up day.

786
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Speaker 1: One thing consistent in your four years here is Danny Barrett.

787
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: He's been there for all four years. Man, what's DV

788
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: meant to use?

789
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: Paul Man?

790
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: I talked a look, I talk a lot of look.

791
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 4: I tell him this to his face. I talk a

792
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: lot to jalk about my coach. But that's my dog though,

793
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 4: and I know I know he got my bike, and

794
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 4: I know he has my best interest at heart, and

795
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: every day he demands the best of me. You know,

796
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: as men, you know they figure that we got in

797
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: our life, the guy that's always on us, you know,

798
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: we kind of kind of bump heads a little bit.

799
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: But looking back from rookie year to now, I definitely

800
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 4: appreciate everything he's done.

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Speaker 6: For sure, Damien, I feel like I should be your

802
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 6: agent because I've been advocating that they throw the ball

803
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 6: to you a little bit more, right, maybe a lot

804
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 6: more because you catch the ball.

805
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 5: Well, you got to take some pride in that.

806
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 6: And I've seen training camp catches where it's like there's no, oh,

807
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 6: he caught it, you know, or you make even a

808
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 6: ball might be a little behind you somehow you snag

809
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 6: at one handed reel it in gathered in. You tell

810
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 6: me about catching the football and how important that is

811
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 6: to you.

812
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: Uh me, I've always just been a football player. That's

813
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: the first thing everybody learned playing football, playing catch. That's

814
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: how That's how everybody got introduced to playing football. And

815
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 4: one thing about me, the way I approach catching the

816
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: ball is kind of fun.

817
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: You know.

818
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 4: You know, every ball is not gonna be the best ball,

819
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: Like I remember growing up, well, we used to play

820
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 4: a lot of games of all in football, but one

821
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: of them used to be like we used to kind

822
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 4: of like it's kind of like the same theme as

823
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 4: like the ground is love. So if the ball touched

824
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 4: the ground, you out so the other so the ject

825
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: of of us was like to throw you the craziest ball,

826
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 4: like it was no good balls in that drift. So

827
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: like we'll be in the square, throw it low, throw

828
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: it high, like just try to make you do these

829
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: crazy catches and like that's like we used to bet

830
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 4: on that.

831
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: Like we'll probably put everybody put.

832
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 4: A dollar in and you know what I'm saying, Or

833
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 4: we'll put the what they called the fruit by the

834
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: foots I remember we have fruit by the foot Slam

835
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 4: Jim and ring Poppy at one time. So I just

836
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 4: handy up with the ring pop Yeah, man, you already

837
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: know so uh, just catching the football, you know, I

838
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: take a lot of like you said, is it's a

839
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: thing that comes natural to me. You know, I don't

840
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 4: fill out of place not catching the football. And he personally,

841
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 4: I like being open space. I like me one on

842
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 4: one sure.

843
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: One of the things you do in open space is

844
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: return kickoffs. That's something that's developed over the last few years.

845
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you had to run back in twenty

846
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: three against the Browns. But when you know it or not,

847
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: you've developed into a really good kick returner. What has

848
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: made what has given you that success? Damien? Like you

849
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: talk about running in space, but that's kind of both

850
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: running in space but also kind of running between your

851
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: tackles the way that you were to kids. What's what's

852
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: that been like for you and how have you kind

853
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: of adapted to it?

854
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: It really not so much adapting because I was a

855
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 4: great return in like my whole life. It just got

856
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: to a point in high school where like theyll on

857
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: side kick it rather than kicking than me. So my

858
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 4: coach was like, bro, you know it, don't eywhere they're

859
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 4: gonna do all this.

860
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: We just go keep you So, you know, kick.

861
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: Return is just like me and Coach Frank to call

862
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: it a longer run play. Yeah, that's all it is.

863
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: Like it got to the point where Coach Frank, you know,

864
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: we was we was think about this, adding this in

865
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: the scheme, adding a little fold here, and then one

866
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 4: day he was just like, man, you know a DP,

867
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna I'm just gonna tell you which two

868
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: guys we double team, and we're gonna go from there.

869
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: Like he he has that trusted me and I have

870
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 4: that confidence in him to put me in the right

871
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 4: position as well. So, you know, being with coach Franklin,

872
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: like you said, over the years, just gaining that trust

873
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: and building that relationship and seeing it, you know, manifest

874
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 4: on the field has been great.

875
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 6: So Johnny asked you what advice you'd have for your

876
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 6: younger self? What advice do you have for the younger players?

877
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 6: Because we've seen Jawaran here going into year two, we

878
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 6: had Woody in here earlier today, and you never know

879
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 6: what's gonna happen because JJ's carrying the ball in the

880
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 6: game last year and stuff, and you know, different things

881
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 6: can happen, team signs, different talent, veteran or whatnot.

882
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 5: So what advice do you have for younger players?

883
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 6: Uh?

884
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: My thing is like, whenever you know they come to

885
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 4: me a with advice, always end off with saying, do

886
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 4: whatever makes you feel, you know, do whatever gives you

887
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 4: the most confidence to perform on the field. So if

888
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: my version of that is I feel like I got

889
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: to stay back a little a little longer after practice

890
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: to get in the playbook, so I'm ready for tomorrow.

891
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 5: Do that?

892
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: If your version of that is I don't use your

893
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 4: cold tub, but I'm gonna start cold tubbing.

894
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: Then do that.

895
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 4: If you know, did hasn't been your biggest strong hole,

896
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 4: do that because it's the little things that people don't realize.

897
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 4: And that's another thing I've gained from four years in NFL. Man,

898
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 4: It's like the little habits that get you in is

899
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 4: it be the little things that add up and then

900
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 4: it becomes a big thing in the season.

901
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 3: It's not the time to fix it. You gotta kind

902
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: of deal with it, you know what I'm saying.

903
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 4: So try to be proactive in trying to be proactive

904
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 4: in your approach and stick to it. And that really

905
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 4: turns out great for anyone.

906
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: What's the one meal that you would be walking around

907
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: with that you would want lad to see no part

908
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: of aka your cheap meal.

909
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 4: Man, I'm going to Lanta. He gonna hear it. Anyway,

910
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 4: every third I think, uh, whenever we have anytime we

911
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,479
Speaker 4: have rice and steak on the same day, or rice

912
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 4: and chicken on the same you know, me and me

913
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 4: and Chelf.

914
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: Mike got this little.

915
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: Pack dad, Yeah, Michael, take care of you now exactly.

916
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: So I gave it the chef Mic, what started out

917
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 4: as a bowl and rice and steak turns into a

918
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: botch a botchi fried ricef Mike, so self, I can

919
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 4: get the regular rice fried up swist sauce. Yeah, I

920
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 4: just made I just made show on quick whatever. I

921
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 4: try to get out the cafe for that.

922
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 5: That one. Oh, why is that so bad?

923
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: Though?

924
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 6: I mean to me, that's helpful. But you guys gotta

925
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 6: be very careful. Do you find that you have to

926
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 6: be even more careful as you get a tiny bit older.

927
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 6: You're still such a young man, but you know, going

928
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 6: into the year four, it's changed for you how you

929
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 6: take care of your body and side.

930
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: Oh you want to know what's crazy?

931
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: He's like the older I got, I don't know why,

932
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 4: but the less appetite I have, Like I've been eating

933
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 4: less actually, so it's kind of been hard for me

934
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 4: to kind of eat really like I don't got I

935
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 4: don't got to a point where, man, I'm probably eating

936
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: twice if I'm eating three times a day, it's three

937
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: small meals for sure.

938
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 3: But like as I got older, man, it's just getting

939
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: the food in me.

940
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: I want your metabolism, man, burn some calories, that's the thing.

941
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: No doubt. I'm not burning calories all right.

942
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 5: So break prior to training camp, it's a long break.

943
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 5: How do you handle that? What do you do?

944
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 6: Because been a lot of opinions in this room as

945
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 6: we've talked to players, and a lot of guys are saying,

946
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 6: there's no break. Really, it's it is time off from

947
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 6: the building. But you're gonna be working out a lot, Yeah.

948
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: For sure, for sure.

949
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 4: Probably, Uh, the only time you really relax it's probably

950
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 4: the break before OTAs because you know, you come back

951
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 4: ot SO, you got an acclamation perer, you got phase one, phase,

952
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 4: you got time.

953
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: So but when we like this break, we're gonna have upcoming.

954
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: Nah, It's really not the time to pump the brakes

955
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 4: because the expectation you want to have as an athlete

956
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: coming back is I want to be able to hit

957
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: the ground running day one.

958
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 3: I want to be able to come.

959
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: Back full pad, full pad of practice three days in

960
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 4: row right now if that was the case. So I

961
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: feel like just preparing, just keeping that in mind and

962
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: having that preparation, you know that that that aids me.

963
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: But the only thing really outside of training for me

964
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 4: in this period will probably be like my little girl birthday,

965
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: and then I got a football camp.

966
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: So after that, I'm it's all football.

967
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: Which football camp tells people? Where is it? Back home?

968
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 5: Oh?

969
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, back home Vanmage, Georgia. Man, it's a love filth. Man,

970
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: y'all come out, y'all show some love. I got the

971
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: whole city coming out. I got I got the rec center,

972
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: I got vendors, I got everybody free promo. It's just

973
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: just a whole thing for like just it's just my

974
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: way of getting back to the community that helped raise me.

975
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: In what so one?

976
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: Did you just talk about it?

977
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: That's pretty that's awesome. How how many years you've been

978
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: doing that?

979
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: This is my first one. This is the first one.

980
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: So I'm excited. Sure, yeah, because I wanted to do

981
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 3: it right.

982
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: Like it was one thing to like, yeah, anybody to

983
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 4: go print some T shirts and get a cool little

984
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: gatorase and go run around Cones. But nah, I really

985
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: wanted it to be like something that the whole city

986
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: can of George, just not to select few, because like

987
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 4: if it was up if it was up to me,

988
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 4: I let everybody join, But that way it'd be like

989
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: seven hundred kids. I'm like, nah, this is my first one.

990
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 4: So I got limited to one fifty. You know what

991
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 4: I'm saying, one fifty, but uh do it right, Yeah,

992
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But I got I got

993
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: something set up, so like I got to set up

994
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: the way everybody who couldn't who couldn't enjoy themselves. I

995
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 4: kind of got like a two hour window just set

996
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 4: after the count where you know, parents more to welcome

997
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 4: bringing their kids, You meet and greet, got vendors, still

998
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: have a little activity set up flags, footballs.

999
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: You know, y'all just come kick it with man, Just bring.

1000
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 5: The sit up, all right, what's the stuff?

1001
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: Man?

1002
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 5: Thanks so much for joining us. Best of luck for sure,

1003
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 5: Thank y'all, man, thank you for having me.

1004
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: He's the best man. Absolutely love some Damien Pierce all right.

1005
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: Coming up on the other side, Luke withhe rookie tight

1006
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,959
Speaker 1: end University of Iowa joins us for the very first

1007
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: time for you. Next in Texas Access, we got one

1008
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: final segment this Tuesday edition of Texans All Access, John

1009
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: Harris Football anal sideline report of your host for this evening.

1010
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: Shut right end, Luke Leche, rookie tight end for the

1011
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: University of Iowa.

1012
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 6: When you were acquired by the Houston Texans and the draft.

1013
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 6: I said that Johnny, don't please, no, not another son

1014
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 6: of a former player making me feel old. And I

1015
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 6: was a big Charger fan years ago, like when Fouts

1016
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 6: played for them, all right, so you know I remember

1017
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 6: your dad playing for them in Washington and everything.

1018
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: But here you are.

1019
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 5: This is about your journey.

1020
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 6: So your reaction to getting selected by the Texans and

1021
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 6: so far, how's it going for you?

1022
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1023
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 7: I was super excited first off to be drafted by

1024
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 7: the Texans. It was an amazing opportunity for me and

1025
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 7: just super grateful to have received that phone call. And

1026
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 7: things have been going great, you know, just learning and

1027
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 7: getting to know.

1028
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: The guys in the city.

1029
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 7: It's been fun.

1030
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: So did you have any idea of Houston?

1031
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 5: Honestly, no, not really really.

1032
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 7: I mean, like, you know, my agent told me, you

1033
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 7: know that they had heard some you know, good feet

1034
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 7: back from them, but other than that, I didn't have

1035
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 7: any like pre draft meetings.

1036
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: Uh, you know.

1037
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 7: I did interview with them at the uh the Shrine Bowl, Yeah,

1038
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 7: did something there, But other than that, it was it was, uh,

1039
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 7: you know, just I didn't really know.

1040
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, what is all that like when you're interviewing with teams,

1041
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 6: and you're interviewing the Shrine Bowl. Then you have the combine,

1042
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 6: you have all the workouts, everything involved in that, and

1043
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 6: you really want to put your best foot forward for

1044
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 6: all the teams.

1045
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 5: It's got to be exhausting to handle all.

1046
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: These Yeah, it is.

1047
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 7: It's exhausting because, yeah, you're trying to present your best

1048
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 7: self every day and that's all the advice that we

1049
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 7: would get. You know, we did a lot of training

1050
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 7: with it through my agency, and uh, yeah, we just

1051
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 7: I just tried to be the best person in the

1052
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 7: best version of myself I could be every single day.

1053
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: So for Texans fans that didn't watch the Hawkeyes, which

1054
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: they missed out watching you guys offensively, what does Luke

1055
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: was bring it to Houston?

1056
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 7: Uh, you know, I bring in bringing somebody that's a

1057
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 7: team player. Uh, someone that's gonna go and do whatever

1058
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 7: he's asked of. And and you know, that's that's what

1059
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 7: I really try to to bring to my game and

1060
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 7: somebody that's going to go and make plays. You know,

1061
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 7: I feel really confident in what I can do on

1062
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 7: the field, and you know, I just got to continue

1063
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 7: to work and run routes and get the details down

1064
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 7: and everything like that.

1065
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: So we were talking to Smith a little bit earlier,

1066
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: and Mark and I have talked about this a bunch.

1067
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: Tight End doesn't really do a justice. You say, somebody

1068
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: plays tight end and there can be four guys in

1069
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: here and they all look different. Yeah, but they all

1070
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 1: play tight end. They're in line guys. There are move guys.

1071
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: There are more receiving types, there are more blocking types.

1072
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: Which one do you kind of fit into, Luke, what

1073
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: would you put? What would you because I probably look

1074
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: at it a little bit differently. Maybe I don't know

1075
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: what would you look at and say you are it's

1076
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: a tight end?

1077
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I feel like, you know, I'm someone

1078
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 7: that's going to be in line and you know be

1079
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 7: you know, probably that start just like blocking a lot.

1080
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 7: But at the same time, I feel really confident in

1081
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 7: what I can do with the ball and you know,

1082
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 7: running routes and everything like that, So I feel like,

1083
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 7: you know, I can do both of them.

1084
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 6: Okay, what's it like playing for Kirk Ferrence? Because he's

1085
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 6: been coaching for a thousand years or two. You know,

1086
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 6: he's had opportunities to go, but he stays there. And

1087
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 6: as you went there. I mean, obviously you realize all

1088
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 6: of this, he's the guy recruiting you are, I know,

1089
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 6: others get involved, but that experience for you being there

1090
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 6: at Iowa, Yeah.

1091
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 7: I was amazing. He's such a great coach and you know,

1092
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 7: even an even better person. And he's just someone that

1093
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 7: you know, I can I can call right now if

1094
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 7: I wanted to pick up and you know, give me

1095
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 7: advice or you know, just talk. And so he just

1096
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 7: he's just an amazing coach, an amazing family that he has,

1097
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 7: and just uh, you know, just built such a great

1098
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 7: culture at Iowa. And I'm really really grateful for him.

1099
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: Luke, did you pick Iwa? Have was tight end always

1100
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: in your future? Was that what you wanted to do?

1101
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: And if so, was Iowa? Did I what matter? Because TJ.

1102
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: Howkins and George Kittles some great tight ends had played

1103
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: in that system and were developed as tight ends. There's

1104
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: where you wanted to go to Iowa?

1105
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean in high school I played wide receiver,

1106
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 7: and so I knew I was a little bit too

1107
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 7: tall and not quite fast enough to play wide receiver

1108
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 7: at the next level. So I had to go somewhere

1109
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 7: that would develop me. And you know, help me be

1110
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 7: the best player that you were going to be a

1111
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 7: tight end. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Also I was being

1112
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 7: recruited as so Iowa was the best fit, you know,

1113
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 7: their developmental program and uh obviously they that that the

1114
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 7: year I got an offer from them, Noah Fan and

1115
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 7: t J. Hockinson both got draft from the first round,

1116
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 7: So it was that was a good selling point and

1117
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 7: definitely opened up my eyes. But then I did a

1118
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 7: lot of research and saw the other great tight ends

1119
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 7: that are there, and you know, they they just do

1120
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 7: a really great job of you know, getting the tight

1121
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 7: ends the ball and just teaching him how to run block.

1122
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 5: So your dad does he still do radio for the Buckeyes?

1123
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: He does?

1124
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right with with Paul Steele Keels. Yeah, sorry Paul.

1125
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: To build off of that, which you're about to ask, so,

1126
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: what was it like when your dad is calling a

1127
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: game against Iowa? Yeah you're playing?

1128
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: Was that weird? It was cool?

1129
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was super cool because you know we the

1130
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 7: only two times that happened.

1131
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: What was i Ohio State?

1132
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, and obviously I grew up one of those games,

1133
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 7: so I knew exactly which booth he was in, so

1134
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 7: I could look up there and I saw him up there,

1135
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 7: and you know, it was a really cool, you know,

1136
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 7: cool experience for my family. We always had a lot

1137
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 7: of people come back for those games. Uh, you know,

1138
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 7: it was just it was just awesome. And he would

1139
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 7: always you know, he wouldn't wear any Ohio state colors,

1140
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 7: he wouldn't wear any Iowa colors.

1141
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: He just you know, he's even black or gray. You know,

1142
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: it's just neutral.

1143
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 5: So it's a better question for him, probably, Yeah, yeah.

1144
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: It probably is.

1145
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 7: But you know, I can tell you he had a

1146
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 7: lot of fun.

1147
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 6: He probably told you all the hayten Fry stories in

1148
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 6: the big locker room and everything, all that stuff see

1149
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 6: about Iowa.

1150
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's wild.

1151
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: All right.

1152
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 5: Well, it's great to visit with you. Best of luck,

1153
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.

1154
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.

1155
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: Polish, smart, good hands, everything you want in a tight end.

1156
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: And he went to the University of Iowa. Appreciate Luke, Damian,

1157
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: my Man Saca Pachia for joining. We'll see tomorrow. Bout

1158
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: it in as always, Go Texans.