WEBVTT - East Finals Highlight The Importance Of Coaching

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<v Speaker 1>So the topic of the day, maybe the week, probably

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<v Speaker 1>the entire.

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<v Speaker 2>Offseason, if we're honest, considering.

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<v Speaker 1>How bad things are right now for the Celtics is

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<v Speaker 1>just how bad of a job Joe Miszula has done

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<v Speaker 1>coaching the Boston Celtics in the postseason?

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<v Speaker 2>How bad is it?

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<v Speaker 1>The Athletic has three articles written on it, like, aren't these.

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<v Speaker 2>Writers checking in with each other?

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<v Speaker 1>Three articles on Joe Mizzoula being a dumpster fire in

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason as a coach. You got Bill Simmons devoting

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<v Speaker 1>many numbers of podcasts hours to it. Twitter is a

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<v Speaker 1>is just an absolute mess in the comment section on

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<v Speaker 1>how Spoe is absolutely out coaching Joe Missoula.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, though, is what nobody is talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Were witnessing in this Eastern Conference finals is to me

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest NBA science experiment in the history of the league. So, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>last year, right, emay Udoka takes over a Celtics team

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<v Speaker 1>and it only takes him about a half a season

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<v Speaker 1>to completely change the culture there. As we know, emay

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<v Speaker 1>Udoka was bearing these kids in the media saying, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're soft, they're not passing the ball. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>mess and all of a sudden things clicked in the

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<v Speaker 1>postseason to the point where they get to the finals

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<v Speaker 1>and they lose a hard fought series to the Warriors. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you may not like the drop coverage that emay Udoka

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<v Speaker 1>played on Steph Curry. Fine, fair, but I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can all say that emay Udoka is an elite coach. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course emai Udoka got quote unquote suspended for the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Aka got fired for not being able to I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>just like keep it together yeather, and he had some

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<v Speaker 1>sexual relations with one of the members of the Stack,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that to me creates a perfect storm of

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances we've never had in the history of the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>A head coach who gets fired after leading his team

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<v Speaker 1>from five hundred to the brink of a championship. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Stevens took this team to the Eastern Conference semis

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times, but let's be real. The Brad Stevens move

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<v Speaker 1>to the GM position, it was because he was not

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<v Speaker 1>ready and able to coach these men up. This wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Nurse getting fired after four years after winning a CHIP.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a coach everyone said was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best minds in basketball. Completely change the culture of Boston

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<v Speaker 1>and he shockingly gets let go.

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<v Speaker 2>He would have been the Boston head coach for a

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<v Speaker 2>decade or more. And on top of that, the kicker

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<v Speaker 2>is that the Celtics didn't change their roster. This was

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<v Speaker 2>a team that they thought they were gonna run every

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<v Speaker 2>everything back.

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<v Speaker 1>They ended up actually getting better, getting the sixth man

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<v Speaker 1>of the year in Malcolm Brogden.

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<v Speaker 2>They added him to the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>So this team, this Celtics team, has actually improved from

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<v Speaker 1>last year, the one that we already know is good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to win it all I already know is good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to go to the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>And then all of a sudden they get handed one.

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<v Speaker 1>Of EM's assistants, not some random coach that comes in

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<v Speaker 1>and has to take over a team that's already built

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<v Speaker 1>a scheme and a system. No, thirty four year old

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mizula was there for the entire process under Ema Udoka.

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<v Speaker 1>So now we get this beautiful opportunity to compare bad

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<v Speaker 1>for Joe Miszula.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, because we.

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<v Speaker 1>Really have all of the same factors that are consistent

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<v Speaker 1>except for the coach. We can compare how this team

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<v Speaker 1>compares to last year's team because they're pretty much the same,

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<v Speaker 1>and even better in our science experiment, they get to

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<v Speaker 1>play the Miami Heat again, the team that they went

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<v Speaker 1>toe to toe with in the playoffs last year, a

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<v Speaker 1>team that is largely the same as it was last year,

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<v Speaker 1>only slightly worse. They're missing Tyler Hero, They're missing Victor Oladipo.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, Hero averaged twelve four and three

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<v Speaker 1>against the Celtics in the games he played in the

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Conference Finals, and the Heat won two of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Ola Depot came in and averaged ten three and three

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<v Speaker 1>in all seven games. So this is actually a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>perfect storm. The same two teams play against each other

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<v Speaker 1>in two consecutive years, two consecutive Eastern Conference finals.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, and the only difference really.

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<v Speaker 1>Boston changed coaches. And now the truth has come to

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<v Speaker 1>light and the world is being debunked because there are

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<v Speaker 1>for many years, people have said coaching doesn't matter in

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a star driven league. Stars do star things.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, people. What we're seeing is the coaching matters

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Coaching matters on every level.

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<v Speaker 2>We have never had.

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<v Speaker 1>The ability to see how stark it would be if

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<v Speaker 1>a brilliant coach left. When coaches get fired, they're usually

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<v Speaker 1>not brilliant. They're usually not very good there. Usually you

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<v Speaker 1>see their ceiling. Teams are bad, teams have failed, they've

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<v Speaker 1>been disappointments. I don't think you go to the finals

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<v Speaker 1>and you fire your coach right away. We've never seen,

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<v Speaker 1>hardly ever seen an elite coach get fired like this

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<v Speaker 1>at this particular point in the juncture of his head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching career, one year in to his coaching head coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Career, and this is what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>The only reason emy Udoka isn't the coach this year

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<v Speaker 1>and for the next decade is because of the personal scandal, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had nothing to do with.

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<v Speaker 2>Coaching, so we know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, emy Udoka was masterful along the way to the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you don't like what he did in.

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<v Speaker 1>The finals, but his defense, how he managed the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>The identity of the team was defense all year long,

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<v Speaker 1>ball movement, getting out and pushing the pace. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we get to see how the same team perform under

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<v Speaker 1>another highly regarded assistant coach, an assistant like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>who I should remind you worked under Ema Udoka. It

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<v Speaker 1>means the great Boston NBA coaching experiment proves beyond a

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<v Speaker 1>shadow of a doubt, how one man can change the

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<v Speaker 1>fate of a team, and more importantly, how important a

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<v Speaker 1>good coach is to a good team. Another thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>becoming very evident. It is very easy for mediocre coaches

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<v Speaker 1>to paper over their flaws in the regular season. Malcolm

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<v Speaker 1>brog didn't discuss this, which we'll talk about in just

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<v Speaker 1>a second, but Boston easily got to hide under the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season guide because of Missoula's inability to adjust when

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<v Speaker 1>they were playing Detroit and San Antonio and teams that

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<v Speaker 1>weren't scheming and planning and preparing for them because either

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<v Speaker 1>the gap and talent was so much greater or those

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<v Speaker 1>good teams great teams were not.

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<v Speaker 2>Really preparing for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Even in the first and second rounds of the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston wasn't exactly really getting tested, and yet they were

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<v Speaker 1>still kind of not quite acing the exam. There were

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<v Speaker 1>four shore signs that shit was already.

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<v Speaker 2>Going off the rails.

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<v Speaker 1>Lest we forget, winning two rounds in the NBA Playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>gets you exactly halfway to the championship, you still have

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<v Speaker 1>to beat good teams, Elite teams coached by elite coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>and Joe Mazoo is very.

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<v Speaker 2>Far from an elite coach. I think we know that, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we kind of know that.

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<v Speaker 1>He might be a good coach one day, he might

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<v Speaker 1>be an elite coach another day. But asking him as

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty four year old head coach with very little

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<v Speaker 1>coaching experience and only two years experience in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>in total, that is a bridge, folks. This guy came

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<v Speaker 1>from the main red clause. Okay, if you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what those words mean, like I understand if I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what is she saying? This guy came from the main

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<v Speaker 1>red clause. Yeah, that's where he came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Maine. That's the Gen League team for the Boston Celtics.

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<v Speaker 2>He came from the G League team.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where he came from. Joe Missoula got his. It's

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<v Speaker 1>basically Aaron Miles, my guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Who I love.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Miles assistant for the Boston Celtics. He has more

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<v Speaker 1>coaching experience in the NBA than Joe Miszula, head coach

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<v Speaker 1>of the G League Santa Cruz Warriors, and then an

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<v Speaker 1>assistant for the Warriors in their title run, and then

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<v Speaker 1>an assistant on the bench.

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<v Speaker 2>For the Boston Celtics.

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<v Speaker 1>So listen, I don't know what the deal is with

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Missoula and why he's not very good, but I

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<v Speaker 1>can say this, the adjustments aren't there, the rotations aren't there.

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<v Speaker 1>He blames the team when he's the one at fault,

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<v Speaker 1>and he blames himself when it's the team. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>at fault for this team going down three zero in

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<v Speaker 1>the third game. They didn't give the effort that they needed.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't at fault for them laying down and staying down.

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<v Speaker 1>The lack of effort was embarrassing. Tatum and Brown and

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<v Speaker 1>Smart and the others. They they either need to be

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<v Speaker 1>consistently motivated or if they aren't, they're not consistently giving

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<v Speaker 1>their full effort. It feels very much like the Brad

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens era, and Missoula didn't get to coach under Popovich

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<v Speaker 1>like Imeu did. He was a college assistant who got

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<v Speaker 1>plucked directly by Brad Stevens and then went to the

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<v Speaker 1>G League and then went to the pros. So you

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<v Speaker 1>could say, oh, Trista, where were you when Boston started

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<v Speaker 1>out eighteen and four? Well, when Missoula won Coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the month, both in November and December. I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was Eme's team. Missoula got, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>a good class. When they get a good substitute, they

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<v Speaker 1>get a substitute teacher. Like the bad habits don't restart

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<v Speaker 1>right away. Missoula got appointed on the eve of training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>And second of all, the more that Joe Miszula put

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<v Speaker 1>his stamp on this team, the less they started to win.

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<v Speaker 1>And once he got thrown up against good coaches, the

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<v Speaker 1>cracks could be seen. Quinn Snyder led a far less

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<v Speaker 1>talented Hawks team to six games in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>The bullet was dodged in part because Trey Young played

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<v Speaker 1>like buns in the first two games. Then Joe lucked

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<v Speaker 1>out in the coaching against the Sixers with an injured

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<v Speaker 1>Embiid and the only coach in the playoffs hey get

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<v Speaker 1>out coach was Doc Rivers. And even still he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look great in this series against a very underman Heat team.

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<v Speaker 1>Was cold water on him because Spolstra is just much better.

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<v Speaker 1>He has conducted a masterclass, and Joel has only this

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<v Speaker 1>to say for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe, the biggest game of the season, a game you

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<v Speaker 3>had to have, and you guys just looked completely lost

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<v Speaker 3>after the first six minutes. What exactly happened out there?

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<v Speaker 4>I just didn't have him ready to play.

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<v Speaker 3>Within the last forty eight hours.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just I just didn't have them ready to play.

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<v Speaker 4>I should have h whatever it was, whether it was

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<v Speaker 4>the starting lineup or it was an adjustment, just I

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<v Speaker 4>have to get them in a better place ready to play.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not me.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean? I just didn't have them ready

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<v Speaker 2>to play? What goes in?

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<v Speaker 1>See this is investor investigator Krick then like detective Crick.

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<v Speaker 1>That comes out like what does that mean? What does

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<v Speaker 1>it take to get a team ready to play? Like

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<v Speaker 1>what did you not do this last forty eight hours

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<v Speaker 1>that you've done in other forty eight hours? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think you'll do now moving forward to get

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<v Speaker 1>them ready to play?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean? It's a must win game.

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<v Speaker 1>You're down two oh and both of those losses were

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<v Speaker 1>at home.

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<v Speaker 2>That never happens. And now let's be real.

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<v Speaker 1>The Celtics are done and as they're about to exit

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, players are spilling the tea like Malcolm Brogden,

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<v Speaker 1>the tree shaker, Malcolm Brogen, exposing the flaws in the

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<v Speaker 1>culture of the Boston Celtics.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not shocked.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in these playoffs overall, it's it's showing because

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<v Speaker 3>we're playing a very disciplined, consistent, well coached team. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think in the Atlanta series, I think in the

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<v Speaker 3>Philly series, I think we got away with with things

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<v Speaker 3>that now are are biten us. So you know that

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<v Speaker 3>that's definitely troubling. I think it's I think it's mainly

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<v Speaker 3>on the defensive end. You know, we haven't been consistently

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<v Speaker 3>great defensively all year long, and that was the team's

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<v Speaker 3>identity last year, and I think that slipped away from us.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had spurts where we've been great defensively, but not consistently,

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<v Speaker 3>and honestly, we've struggled in every series we've played, So

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<v Speaker 3>you know, now we're playing a team that's playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>as if they're the best team in the league, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Pass we've struggled in every round we've played so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Defense was the identity of this team last year and

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<v Speaker 1>it is not the identity this year. These were all

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<v Speaker 1>issues by the way that Joe and the team have

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<v Speaker 1>denied in the postseason, and they've denied all year, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were very evident to anyone who watched them play

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<v Speaker 1>more than a game or two. Celtics insiders are now

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<v Speaker 1>hinting at toxic issues in the locker room. What does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean. I need to know what's happening there that's toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the great NBA coaching experiment happening here in Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>We just have never had the ability to quantify this before.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the first time we've ever had the opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's great because now all of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are out there on Twitter and on the

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<v Speaker 1>social media saying that coaching doesn't matter and you can

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<v Speaker 1>just plug and play Steven Silas in the mix and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get a championship team if it's composed of

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<v Speaker 1>championship caliber players.

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<v Speaker 2>That is false.

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<v Speaker 1>They're playing the same team that they played last year

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<v Speaker 1>in the Eastern Conference Finals. They have the same roster,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're actually a little bit better, and they're playing

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<v Speaker 1>a team that's actually worse. Tells you exactly what you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know, was hard truths. Coaching matters a lot

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<v Speaker 1>much more than people want to admit. In the regular

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<v Speaker 1>season matters not at all. Teams that fight through adversity

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes come out stronger in the postseason, like the heat.

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<v Speaker 2>And also like I don't know Boston in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one twenty two when he may uk Doka was in charge.

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<v Speaker 2>So good job, Joe Mizula.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a very important part of history, and we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you the fuck later