1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: On this episode of Newsworld. When Italian immigrant Francesco Cabrini 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: arrived in America in eighteen eighty nine, she was greeted 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: by disease, crime, and impoverished children living in New York slums. 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Armed with a fearless spirit and a compassionate heart, Cabrini 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: sets off on a daring mission to convince the hostile 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: mayor to secure housing and healthcare for societies most vulnerable 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: orphan children. Despite broken English and poor health, Cabrini leverages 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: her entrepreneurial mind to build an empire of hope unlike 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: anything the world had ever seen. Now. Mother Cabrini's life 10 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: is celebrated in the new film Cabrini, which opened this 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: weekend in theaters nationwide and is directed by Alejandro Monteverdi 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: and produced and distributed by Angel Studios. Here to talk 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: about Mother Cabrini and their new film, I'm really pleased 14 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: to welcome my two guests, Jeff Harmon, co founder and 15 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of Angel Studios, and Eduardo Rostage, executive 16 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: producer for the film. Jeff and EDWARDO, thank you for 17 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: joining me on news World. 18 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: Great to be here. 19 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: Thank you. 20 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: Oh this will like so much to work you guys 21 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: have been doing through Angel Studios. Jeff, can you talk 22 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: about the founding of Angel Studios? I mean, you grew 23 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: up working on potato farms. Somehow that wasn't the normal 24 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: beginning of a film creator. 25 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 26 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: I grew up in the middle of nine children, six 27 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: boys and three girls, and we had three TV stations 28 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: where we grew up and on the potato farms and 29 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: Decklo and Burley, Idaho. It wasn't even on my radar 30 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: that would eventually be an executive at a top ten 31 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: US Hollywood studio. I could count the number of movies 32 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: I watched in theaters growing up on one hand, and 33 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: they were all at the Dollar Show. 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: How do you move from potatoes to movies? 35 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: When I went to university my roommates. Two of my roommates, 36 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: one was a screenwriter studying screenwriting in school and another 37 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: one was studying photography for film, and both of them, 38 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: one of them is directing a movie right now for 39 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: Angel actually and at least he's hoping to get into 40 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: Angel And another one is a major YouTuber called Devin Supertramp. 41 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: They introduced me to film and I had sell skills 42 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: so my brothers and I we would take my grandpa's 43 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: potatoes from the farm in Idaho, borrow a pickup truck 44 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: from the farm, and then drive them three hours south 45 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: to Utah and sell potatoes door to door as kids, 46 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: and I learned that I could buy a box of 47 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: potatoes for like a dollar or two and I could 48 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: sell them for twenty dollars in Utah, And so I 49 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: built a little business off of that, and I learned 50 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: to sell thousands of boxes of potatoes. And those sell 51 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: skills came in later in my life when we were 52 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: trying to market a product called ore Brush, and we 53 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: built an ad agency around that concept. And so we 54 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: took cell skills, mixed them with the video from my 55 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: roommate Devin Supertramp, and we built our first commercials for YouTube, 56 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: which blew up built a large company. Then we built 57 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: an ad agency and did Poopery, squatty potty, purple Mattress, 58 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: new Mediodorant, big viral video hits. And then eventually read 59 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: the book Creativity, Inc. And saw that Pixar was first 60 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: an agency and then they became a studio, and we thought, oh, 61 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: we could do something like that, and so we set 62 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: off on trying to build the foundations of what would 63 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: eventually become Angel Studios. 64 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: So you early on though, are doing like two to 65 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: five minute videos as viral ads. 66 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've ever seen like the squatty potty pooping 67 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 2: unicorn where it's pooping ice cream, and I think it 68 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: is still considered the biggest viral video campaign for an 69 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 2: ad of all time. If you look at the top 70 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: viral video ads on YouTube and Facebook of all time, 71 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: we did more of them than any other agency. 72 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: You're making a good living, you have a niche that 73 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: you have learned to basically dominate, and suddenly you go 74 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: towards movies. 75 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother Neil, who's the CEO of Angel Studios 76 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: right now, he and Jordan who's also a co founder 77 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: at Angel, they were working on this product that would 78 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: skip and mute. It's kind of a roundabout way how 79 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: we got here. Skip and mute scenes so skip seeing 80 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: or mute words and movies that we found unacceptable for 81 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 2: our children. And Neil came to me and said, let's 82 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: do this as our next business. Let's build a company 83 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 2: that streams movies to people that they've purchased. But it's 84 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: like an automatic remote control. It takes out rape scenes 85 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: or very profane language so that you can watch it 86 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: more with your family or your teenagers or whatever, the 87 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: things you don't want your kids to hear or see. 88 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: And I was resistant to it. I didn't want to 89 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: start a business that I thought we'd get sued with 90 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 2: because before our company, there had been a bunch of 91 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: other companies build these technologies around DVDs and VCRs and 92 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: they had all been sued out of existence by the 93 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: studio system. So I told Neil, I said, I don't 94 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: think I want to do that, and Neil said, well, 95 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: what if we do this? The system will accumulate. The 96 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: moral compass of America will come around this service, and 97 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: when they use it, eventually will have a big enough 98 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: group that we can make content for this group rather 99 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: than just skipping and muting the content the content that's 100 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: coming out of Hollywood. And that's when I said, Okay, 101 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: let's do this. And we did it, and we got 102 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: sued by Disney, twentieth Century Fox, Warner Brothers. That lawsuit 103 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: lasted for years, cost millions of dollars, and in that 104 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: process of being sued and having the lowest point of 105 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: our business, we actually transitioned into making content sooner than 106 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: we expected, and we eventually helped build The Chosen, which 107 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: is TV series. We built Drive our comedy, another TV 108 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: series which is stand up comedy that's cleaner, and we 109 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: built Tuttle Twins, which is a kid series that teaches 110 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 2: kids about principles of freedom and economics. And we have 111 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: built a studio now out of the ashes of what 112 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: was a major lawsuit with Disney, in this big battle 113 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: that we eventually settled out of, and we have built 114 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: a studio that is launching series after series after series, 115 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: and then we eventually got into theatrical last year. 116 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: Well, what's amazing about Angel Studios is both how you 117 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: raise money, how you pre sell tickets, and how you 118 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: engage your investors in having a real voice about their investments. 119 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: It's a very sophisticated and extraordinarily successful model. 120 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so when we got sued by Disney, this came 121 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: out of necessity. This model was born by accident in 122 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: a lot of ways, or born by divine providence. When 123 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: we got sued, we didn't have the money to fight 124 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: a major lawsuit with the largest studio in the world, 125 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: and venture capitalists don't usually want to come in and 126 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: invest in lawsuits. That's not their favorite thing to do. 127 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: And the Jobs Act had just passed, which Obama had signed, 128 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: and eight companies before done this, and this law allowed 129 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: everyday people, not millionaires, to invest in venture projects. And 130 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: we were the ninth company to try this, and we 131 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: took it to our customers and said, we don't have 132 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: the money to fight this lawsuit, but if you would 133 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: like us too, it's going to cost at least five 134 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: million dollars and we can fight this lawsuit up to 135 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. And we ended up raising about eleven 136 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: million dollars in a five day period from eight thousand 137 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: families across the world. After that, my brother who's a 138 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: film director, he created Tuttle Twins, the series title Twins. 139 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: He called me and he said, Jeff, do you realize 140 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: what you just stumbled onto. We can now fund major 141 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: projects that can compete with Hollywood on an excellence level, 142 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: and we've never been able to do this before. And 143 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: it clicked. It was like, Oh, that's how we do 144 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: this is we bring together people who want to see 145 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 2: the content and don't wait for Hollywood to make it. 146 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: We make it. And the first big project we crowdfunded 147 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: was the Chosen. That was seventeen thousand investors invested in 148 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: The Chosen over a eighteen month period, and we launched 149 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: The Chosen, and then we launched Tuttle Twins, and we 150 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 2: launched the Wing, Feather Saga, et cetera. Then it's evolved 151 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: even since then. When Eduardo came on. Eduardo and his team, 152 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: we raised five million dollars in what's called p and 153 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: A which is prints and advertising to take your movie 154 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: to theaters. And so the crowd thousands of people came 155 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: in around Eduardo and his team and raised money to 156 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: pay to bring Sound of Freedom to theaters rather than 157 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: just paying to produce it. That's the way that we 158 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: had done it with The Chosen. Now it was paying 159 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: to get it to the world. And those thousands of 160 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: people be come your army. They're the people who go 161 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: and proselytize the films to the world. So we raised 162 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: a p and A round with Sound of Freedom, launched 163 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: it in theaters, it exploded, and then those investors got 164 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: paid back. We've done four theatrical releases where people have 165 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: invested in the theater, released the prints and advertising, and 166 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: each time those audiences have gotten a return on their 167 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: investment within I think about ninety days. 168 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: Did you have any idea when you launched The Chosen 169 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: that it would become as big as it did? 170 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: We hoped, so we pitched Dallas. So this is a 171 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: completely unusual story. We're in the middle of this gigantic 172 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: lawsuit with Disney. Matthew Faraci, who's a close friend of ours, 173 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: an Orthodox Jew, sends over this short film called The Shepherd, 174 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: and it's the pilot episode of The Chosen, and I 175 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: watched it, and when I was watching it, it was 176 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 2: like a download of inspiration, and I could see how 177 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: to take everything we had learned with selling poopery squatty 178 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: potty Purple Mattress, and taking everything that we had learned 179 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: about crowdfunding against Disney and everything that we were learning 180 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: about the Hollywood system and bringing all together and funding 181 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: this Chosen series. But we did not think that this 182 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 2: show was going to be like I thought, maybe a 183 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: popular show, but it's a top ten show. And it 184 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: was after a year or two we started realizing, oh, 185 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: we might be able to actually go for a Game 186 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: of Thrones size series with this. Let's try to take 187 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: this show to a billion people. But that wasn't an 188 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: instantaneous understanding. Dallas said that when we were writing the 189 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: script about pitching the initial series, that I told him 190 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: as we were in the script was like, Oh, we're 191 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: going to bring this show to millions of people around 192 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 2: the world. And that's probably the closest thing we had. 193 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: But now it's over. I think it's close to two 194 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: hundred million people worldwide. It's reached. 195 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: You go from there and you create the Sound of Freedom, 196 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: which is an astonishing movie. I remember being with Eduardo 197 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: at the Capitol when the then Speaker of the House, 198 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy, hosted a showing of the film. It's just 199 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: an amazing movie, and I thought an act of great 200 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: courage to do it. Did you too feel like it 201 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: was a courageous moment to tackle something that challenging in 202 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: that bold. 203 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: Eduardo, you're the one who made that film over eight 204 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: years while we were fighting. I know we hadn't met 205 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 2: each other with that, but you were fighting your own 206 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: battles with Disney, right. 207 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: Well, it's crazy, how you know. 208 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: In one hand, it's a little bit more than eight 209 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: years now, almost nine years twenty fifteen. Actually, when I 210 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: met these incredible people in Los Angeles, California. 211 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: You know, I was just finishing the lunching of Little 212 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: Boy in the Whole World. 213 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: It's a movie that we did before Some of Freedom, 214 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: almost like using Little Boy to campaign around the world 215 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 4: on why it's so important to put in. 216 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: Practice the corporal works of mercy. 217 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 4: And I was pretty much using the movie to inspire 218 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: people to do, you know, with their talents something so 219 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 4: we can make this work a better place right. And 220 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: while I was doing that, I ended up meeting these 221 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 4: incredible people in Los Angeles who are experts in wresculing 222 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: children kidnap for sexual respectation around the world. And when 223 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: they shared with me in details what they do to 224 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: these children around the world and how they travel around 225 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 4: the world. These guys professional you know xnabcos XCI agents, 226 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 4: how they travel undercover around the world wrestling these children. 227 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 3: I was very moved. 228 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: I was inspired in one hand to meet these amazing heroes, 229 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: but in the other hand, I was very sad. I 230 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 4: couldn't sleep. You know, when you find out how these 231 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: kids around the world are being raped ten to fifteen 232 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: times a day for many years until the clients they 233 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: don't want them anymore because they're not fresh meat anymore. 234 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 4: That's the kind of vocabulary that they use. You know 235 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 4: what happened to many of these children. They opened them 236 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 4: and sell their organs, and it was like it was 237 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: too much to carry that. I decided just to join 238 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 4: the movement with them. I say, I want to do something. 239 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: You know, I have a weapon of mass instruction, which 240 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: is mass instruction and inspiration, which is films. Movies. Movies 241 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 4: can move people, and we need to create a movement. 242 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 4: Because I remember asking them why this problem? I mean, 243 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: if this is a global problem, and especially the US 244 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 4: and Mexico, how come US and Mexico, you know, with 245 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: the technology and the funds and the intelligence and the 246 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 4: army and the police, why don't we just finish this 247 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: problem once and for all. And they answered me because 248 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: it's not a priority. So how can we turn this 249 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: into priority? We need a movement. And that's when we 250 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: decided to start writing the script. Alejandro monte Verdez writing 251 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: descript broad Bar. I took them a few years to 252 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 4: finish the story Sound of Freedom. Then we started raising 253 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: the funds, and then I sold the project to Fox 254 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: Latin America. And so far everything was amazing until Disney 255 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: by Fox. When Disney bought Fox for like eighty billion 256 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 4: dollars something like that, all of a sudden, Ton of 257 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: Freedom was the property. 258 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: Owned by Disney. 259 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 4: But then Disney, when they saw the movie, they told me, 260 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: this is not for us, this movie is not for us. Okay, 261 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: well then I'm happy to you know, take it with me. Yes, 262 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: but you need to pay the debt. And I remember 263 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: I was owing a lot of money to Fox, which now. 264 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: Is to Disney. So it took me like two years 265 00:15:59,240 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: to pay them. 266 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: Because COVID hit, they closed all the theaters, so who 267 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: wanted to invest in a movie where now theaters were close? 268 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: And I was like along in my. 269 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: Apartment in Mexico, like you know, when the whole thing 270 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: was the close everything. And finally I was able to 271 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: raise the money, by the grace of God and pay 272 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: Disney take the rights back. And then I started doing 273 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 4: a campaign in Mexico against child trafficking, showing the movie 274 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: to every single governor, you know, asking them please and 275 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: child trafficking in your state. Use the movie to raise awareness, 276 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 4: but then let's send an agreement where we commit to 277 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: child traffick in your state. Took me two years to 278 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: finish this campaign against child trafficking in Mexico with one hand. 279 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: With the other hand, I was praying to God, please 280 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 4: send an angel to rescue this movie. 281 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: Please send an angel to rescue this movie. And next thing, you. 282 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: Know, two years later, after being rejected by Hollywood for 283 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: almost four years, five years, all the experts who told 284 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 4: us this movie. 285 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: Is never gonna work, never gonna work. 286 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: And then Angel Studios called me, so imagine what I'm 287 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 4: praying to God to send an angel. And then Angel 288 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: Studious called me, Hey, one of the worst studio here. 289 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: We just finished this lawsuit with Disney and everything. It 290 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: seems like we have something in common. You know, I 291 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 4: think we are your last option. Why don't we do 292 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: this together. We believe in the division and the mission 293 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 4: that you guys have. So this is like April last year, 294 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 4: and we met. We signed the deal literally like a 295 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: week later. And the next thing, you know, Neil, Jeff 296 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 4: and Jordan they tell me, okay, so we just sign 297 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: the deal. Let's put this film out on July fourth. Guys, 298 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 4: are you crazy? July fourth is like, I mean, we're 299 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 4: in depending filmmakers. This film is going to be competing 300 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 4: with Indiana Jones and mission impossible. There's no way we're 301 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: going to compete with them. I mean, if we're lucky, 302 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: we're going to raise five million dollars p and A 303 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 4: against hundreds of millions of dollars PNA. 304 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 3: These guys have they own the industry. 305 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: I mean it's like a big establishment, big mafia who 306 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: they own everything. 307 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: Where's just hey, have faith? God? 308 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: Oh, come on, let's do something on July fourth, because 309 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: it's Independence Day. It's freedom right, So let's remind the 310 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 4: United States that we need to do something to bring 311 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: freedom back to the children that are not free. There's 312 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 4: most labor today than when slavery was legal, and many 313 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 4: of those slaves are children. So we need to do 314 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: something on that day. So we agree. And I'm so 315 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: grateful for the faith that Angel Studios had in a 316 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 4: Town of Freedom and all the incredible work they put 317 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 4: together for the launching of Toun of Freedom. 318 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: And thank you Newt for that. 319 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 4: Interview that you did for us and all the support, 320 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 4: and he became ambassador of freedom for this movie and 321 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 4: for this movement, and so many people around the world 322 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 4: became ambassadors of freedom. Mel Gibson, who was one of 323 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 4: ourselves producers. He never never records videos to you know, 324 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 4: recommending films, and he did in these occasions. And what 325 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: this is, you know, the first step to radic HLD 326 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 4: traffic in inst rational awareness. 327 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: I need everyone to see this movie. 328 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: And Tony Robbins and Alejandro Sanz, who is one of 329 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 4: the you know, he's like the Bono of Latin America, 330 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: and so many celebrities and political leaders like the President 331 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: of El Salvador, the President of Argentina, the president of Whatatemada, 332 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 4: the president of Costa Rica, all of them like doing 333 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: premiers in their country, signing agreements with those two incial 334 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: trafficking all. The movie opens, you know, number one in 335 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 4: the box office on July fourth. But you know what, 336 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 4: Hollywood didn't believe in this movie. But you know who did. 337 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 4: The people. The people stow up and they recorded videos. 338 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 4: After the film was finished, they started recording their own 339 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 4: videos on social media. I'm promoting the movie, so hundreds 340 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: of thousands of videos on internet, on social media. You know, 341 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: it was like an army, as Jeffrey said, a big 342 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: army of ambassadors of freedom and showing up in theaters 343 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 4: and recommending this movie. It became the first time ever 344 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 4: in history that an independent film comes out on July 345 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: fourth and. 346 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: Opens number one in the box office. 347 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 4: I'm so grateful to the people to you knew too, 348 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: and studios and all the ambassadors who supported this amazing movement. 349 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: It keeps growing and growing and growing. It just came 350 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: out in Italy like a couple of weeks ago. 351 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: When Colosto was the ambassador of the Vatican. This was 352 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: one of her three major commitments and she spent three 353 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: and a half years on It's a huge worldwide problem 354 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: and I think it's a great tribute to people that 355 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: this film, which is a very powerful film, has attracted 356 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: this kind of worldwide audience. It's attracting and I think 357 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: it is heavy an impact. What led you all to 358 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: decide that Mother Cabrini was next. 359 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we go way back. We started this 360 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: dream of making movies. 361 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 4: That matters in two thousand and four when Alejandro Monteverde, 362 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 4: the director of Bella Little Boy, Son of Freedom and 363 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 4: now Cabrini, Leosabdino, producer from Columbia who was born in 364 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 4: Los Angeles. 365 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: The three of us Colos, the three amigos. 366 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: We started this dream of making movies that matters in 367 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 4: two thousand and four, Los Angeles, California. And the first 368 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 4: person who believe in us, the first person who financed 369 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: our first movie, our first dream, which was Bella, was 370 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 4: Eustace Wolfington, a big entrepreneur, you know, very successful man 371 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: from Philadelphia, and he's the one who financed him and 372 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: his nephew, John Wolfington financed Bella and help us to 373 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 4: achieve this beautiful dream to you know, which for us 374 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: was the first film that Ale Handa directed, my first 375 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: film that I produced, the first film that liuis Arena produced. 376 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 4: So we were very grateful with Eustace Woffington. And since 377 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: day one, he always talked about Mother Cabrini. We didn't 378 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: know who she was, but he said, she's my patron saint. 379 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: I love Mother Cabrini. My dream one day would be 380 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 4: to make a movie about Mother Cabrini. But we didn't 381 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 4: pay attention, which is you know, now, it's all about Bella. 382 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: Let's focus on Bella. So we finished Bella. 383 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: Later on we did Little Boy, then we started doing 384 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: Sound of Freedom, and then Eustace, I remember, we're in 385 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 4: this meeting in Los Angeles. 386 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: I said, I don't I don't want to die before 387 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 3: I make this movie. 388 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 4: I made a promise to Mother Cabrini that I will 389 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 4: do whatever is in my hands to make her movie. 390 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: And I said, well, the first time we need is 391 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: the script. What don't you call Leo right now? 392 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: Because Leo is writing the script with roth Bark, which 393 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: is the same writer that wrote Little Boy with Alejandro. 394 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 4: So literally the next day he calls Leo and Leo, 395 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 4: I want to meet with you and rod Bar and 396 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: they met. Next thing, you know, roth Bar reached like 397 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 4: thirty books of Mother Cabrini. Next thing, you know, roth 398 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 4: Bar and Eustace and I were in Rome and they 399 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 4: started visiting every single place where she was hanging out 400 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: at the time, you know, but I was focused on 401 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: raising funds to pay the debt to Disney, and by 402 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: that time the script was finished. 403 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: Alejandro reached the script. He falls in love. He said, 404 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: this is my next movie. Oh my gosh, this is 405 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: an amazing hero. 406 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: And you just, guys, I've been telling you about Maryabrine 407 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: since day one. You never pay attention. You were so busy. Well, 408 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: it was not meant to be. It was not the 409 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 4: right time. Now it's the right time, because now we're 410 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 4: ready to do it. And now we're better filmmakers than before, 411 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 4: right and after Bella, Little Boy and Freedom, I think 412 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 4: we have a little more experience now to put all 413 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: that experience to Mother Cabrini. And that's how the story came. 414 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: It's all because of Eustace Wolfington. And then let me 415 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: see something why this man is such an amazing hero 416 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: to us. He's our mentor. He's the first one. I mean, 417 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 4: we exist as a filmmakers because of Eustace Wolfington. He 418 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 4: said only one condition, guys, we want to make this movie, 419 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 4: but notine ten percent, not twenty percent, not forty percent, 420 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 4: not eighty percent, one hundred percent of the profit. We 421 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: need to donate the profit to continue the legacy of 422 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: Mother Cabrini. 423 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: This is not about us. 424 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 4: This is not about who owns what or you know, 425 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: giving points to the cast, to the you know, director, producers. No, 426 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 4: we don't want to own anything all the profits of 427 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 4: this film. We need to help the poort, as Mother 428 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: Cabrine taught us. And of course we all agree, he's 429 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 4: the mentor, he's the boss. And Eustace has been nothing 430 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 4: but an amazing role model for all of us. He 431 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: leads by example, and Mother Cabrini represents who uses Walfington 432 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: is for all of us, and this is a gift 433 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 4: to the world. This is a movie about, you know women. 434 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 4: For me, this is a true feminist movement, women that 435 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 4: I'm powered by God. You know, every single woman that 436 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: has got in the center of their lives. Whatever they do, 437 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 4: whatever they taught, miracles happens. And my hope with this 438 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 4: film is that when people come to see it, when 439 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 4: fathers bring their daughters to see this film, my hope 440 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 4: is that when they leave the theater, they will live 441 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 4: not only entertained, but these young women that will leave 442 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 4: wanting to become more like a Brany and not like Barbie. 443 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 2: So I am a father of daughters. I have five 444 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 2: daughters and one boy, and my oldest sister twelve, and 445 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 2: my next one is ten. My ten year old and 446 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 2: my twelve year old watched this early and my ten 447 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: year old said, this is my favorite movie of all time. 448 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: And she's planning right now her girl night with her 449 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 2: friends to go see Kabrini and to be able to 450 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: have ten year olds watching Mother Kabrini's example in this 451 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 2: film and wanting to model their lives after somebody like her. 452 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: This is girl Dad approved movie. 453 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 4: This is something that I want to say that is very, 454 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 4: very very powerful for all of us, and we are 455 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 4: very grateful to the filmmakers, especially independent filmmaking. You know, 456 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 4: you always go against the current, against establishment, against everything right. 457 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 4: I'm used to like working films where takes years for 458 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 4: us to put the movie out in theaters. So in 459 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: Bella it took us like five years Little Boy five years, 460 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: Son of Freedom eight years. 461 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: I imagine all the patients and all this. 462 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 4: But because of the success of Son of Freedom, because 463 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 4: of the support of Angel Studios, this is the first 464 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: film Cabrini that we finished the film just last December, 465 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 4: and I can believe that now we're in theaters like 466 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: three months later after we finished the film. 467 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 3: Now things are going to be I'm not saying that easy, 468 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: but less difficult. 469 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: We don't have to wait for years to put movies 470 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 4: out there because the success of Son of Freedom now 471 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: open the doors for us to finish the film on 472 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 4: time and then put the movie in theeters on time. 473 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: Because now we have. 474 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: A partner that we didn't have before, which is Angel Studios. 475 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 4: You know, we compliment each other in a way that 476 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: is just godlee and divine. 477 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: I'm curious, Jeff, what was it about Mother Cabrini. San 478 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: Cabrini and she became the most affected your. 479 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 2: Daughters, one of my daughters. She was asked. She was 480 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 2: at the premier of Cabrini in New York and one 481 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: of the press people asked her, what if there's a 482 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: woman in her life that's like Cabrini. And she actually 483 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: pointed to her younger sister. And so, my younger sister 484 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: reminds me of Kabrini. And that's the one that said's 485 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 2: her favorite movie. It's the ten year old that says 486 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: is my favorite movie. I think it's resonating because Cabrini 487 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: had been given two to five years to live, and 488 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: she built an empire the size of Rockefellers or Vanderbilt. 489 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: And she's this little, tiny Italian immigrant who speaks broken English, 490 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: and she storms into the Senate. She stands up to 491 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: the Pope. She takes on pimps, she takes on the 492 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: mayor of New York who's trying to shut down her orphanages. 493 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: And no matter how small you are, you can change 494 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: the world. It doesn't matter how small you are. If 495 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: you put your mind to it and unite with God, 496 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 2: you can change the world. 497 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: Well as you all are change in the world. I 498 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: was really impressed on Rotten Tomatoes. You've got an eighty 499 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: nine out of one hundred for a religious film about 500 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: a saint in the nineteenth century, to get that kind 501 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: of raining. 502 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 3: But more important the credits. 503 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 4: You know, we make movies for the people, and that's 504 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: what matters at the end of the day, you know, 505 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 4: is what people think, you know, because they're the audience. 506 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: You know that we care. 507 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 4: You know, we do movies that are movements, movie to movement, 508 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: and Cabrini is going to be definitely a movement that 509 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: started when she came to Manhattan, and the movement hasn't stopped. 510 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 4: The movement is going to keep growing, you know, the 511 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 4: movement of leading by example, the movement of using your 512 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 4: talents to make this for better place, the movement of 513 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: you know, helping children, helping those who are the most vulnerable. 514 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: Just like Sonal Freedom, you know, it was all about 515 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 4: helping children and saving children. Mother Cabrina was doing the 516 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 4: same thing. And not only that, Mother Cabrinain inspired Mother 517 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 4: Teresa to become who she became Mother Teressa was teaching 518 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 4: in this private school in India and she knew that 519 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: something was missing, and when she started reading about Mother Cabrinney, 520 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 4: that's when she decided to start her own order. And 521 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 4: so somehow Mother Cabrina inspired Mother Teresa another saint. And 522 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 4: you know, the beauty of this film too, is Alejandro 523 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: didn't do a religious movie. 524 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: You forget that. 525 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 4: You're watching a movie about a Catholic saint, you know, 526 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 4: which happens to be the patron of the American immigrants 527 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 4: and the first American CANi saint. But you forget about 528 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: that because we focus on her humanity and we focus 529 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: on all the things that she beat that no matter 530 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 4: what you believe, you're going to relate to a woman 531 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 4: that used her talents to serve others and that religion 532 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 4: that TransPasses everything. You know, it's a universal language. 533 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 2: Screened this with thousands of people, thousands of ordinary people 534 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: before this came out, and the most common thing we 535 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: hear is one of the best movies I've ever seen. 536 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: Glenn Beck recently just said it was like watching The 537 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: Godfather for the first time. That's how good of a 538 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: movie this is. It is so powerful. 539 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: That's a pretty remarkable tribute. 540 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, but it is that good people are 541 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: going to hear it this weekend when the first million 542 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: people come out of the theaters. People are going to 543 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: hear from their friends. That's one of the best movies 544 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: I've ever seen. That's a top three movie for me. 545 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: That's a top five movie for me. You're going to 546 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 2: hear it everywhere. I can be confident in that because 547 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: we've screened it so much. 548 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, And the way how Alehndle directed the movie in 549 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 4: a very sobradic method artistically way of asking questions, you know, 550 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 4: to the audience, and the movie provokes reflections, you know, 551 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 4: I in bate you to reflect to a meditation, you know. 552 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 4: And I hope the people will ask themselves, you know, 553 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,239 Speaker 4: what am I doing with my life? You know, kind 554 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 4: of a legacy I want to leave behind my life? 555 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 4: How am I using my talents? What do I want 556 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: to gain in my life? 557 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: And why? 558 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 4: This film will definitely will question all that, And I 559 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 4: think it's very important to ask ourselves, you know, am 560 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 4: I saying the truth or not? Am I building or 561 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 4: am I destroying? Am I turning the light on or off? 562 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: What am I doing with my life, you know, so 563 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 4: Mother Cabrille will question in a way that is very effective. 564 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: I hope you know the audience and the movie. The 565 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 4: movie begins when the movie finished, because now I want 566 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 4: you to carry the legacy of Mother ca Bret in 567 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: your own life when you leave the theater. 568 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: And the fact that she founded the Missionary Sisters in 569 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: the Sacred Heart of Jesus there now, I think in 570 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: sixteen different countries are on all six of the occupied comments. 571 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: We think of her as an American saint, but she 572 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: had a worldwide impact. 573 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 4: Exactly more than sixty hospitals, orphanitures, school, I mean everything. 574 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 4: She was amazing because she was not focusing on herself. 575 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: She was asking that this helped me to help. You know, 576 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: there's and she never give up. You know, now knew. 577 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 4: There's men and women that I see and they're depressed. 578 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 4: I want to ask them why. Well, I didn't get 579 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 4: a lot of lights on my social media in my 580 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 4: last post. 581 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? You know? 582 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 4: And literally the whole wark comes into their shoulders because 583 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 4: of stupid little things said. 584 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: You need to see Cabrini. You don't see what these 585 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: women went through. And she never gave up. 586 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: Plus, they're gonna love the movie. They're gonna love them movie, right, 587 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: They're just gonna absolutely love the storytelling. But you come 588 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 2: out of it changed that you're inspired to be a 589 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: better person. 590 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: And never to give up, never to give up. 591 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't realize that she'd almost drowned as 592 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: a child, and she was terrified of water, but she 593 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: overcame that fear to my twenty three transatlantic trip. So 594 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: sometimes when people worry about whatever's currently worrying them, she's 595 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: a remarkable case study of courage, commitment, and faith. But 596 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: I have to ask you one of them. With the film, 597 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: you have a remarkable cast, which I think is a 598 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: sign of the growing acceptance of how important your work is. 599 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: I think in that sense, people are going to be 600 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: really impressed just with the people who are now starring 601 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: in your film. 602 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 4: You know, I have to give a credit to Alejandro. 603 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 4: He's a master on discovering talent. You know, there's so 604 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: many actresses who wanted to become Mother Cabrini. 605 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 3: You know, first of all, she needed to be by 606 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 3: lingual because the. 607 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 4: First few minutes of the movie she's in Italy, so 608 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 4: she's speaking Italian. But then when they moved to America. 609 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 4: You know, there's one scene where she says, we're in America. 610 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 4: We speak English now, you know, even though in real 611 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 4: life Mother Cabrini was speaking with the broken English, the 612 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 4: actress speaks perfect English, you know, so she was faking it. 613 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 3: She was acting, of course, like if she didn't know 614 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: English very well. 615 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: But Alejandro discovered this amazing Italian actress who literally you 616 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: forget that you are watching Mother Cabrini. The cast as 617 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 4: you said, you know, Alejandri's very good in every movie, 618 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 4: in Bella, in Little Boy, in Sound of Freedom. 619 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: He's like a casting director. He's a multitask. 620 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: He's a writer, he's a director, he's an actor, he's 621 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 4: a producer, and he's a casting director as well. Even 622 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 4: though we hire an amazing casting director, he's very good 623 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: in discovering and hiring the right actor for the right roles. 624 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 4: And Christiana did an amazing job as Mother Cabrini. And 625 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 4: you know, she should win every single award because her 626 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 4: performance was unbelievable. 627 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: The critics are saying that. The critics are saying, it's 628 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: an Oscar worthy performance, It's an Oscar caliber film. Whether 629 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: or not that happens. I thought Sound of Freedom had 630 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: some actors that deserves some nominations, but I'm not the 631 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 2: one who nominates them. 632 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 4: So we need to start the Angel Awards. 633 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: You know, I should point out to our listeners so 634 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: that they can go to Angel dot com, slash Cabrini 635 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: and by Tech is now available. 636 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 2: It's in theaters right now and it is selling out 637 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: all over the place. Hard to get tickets to certain showings, 638 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: but you can go to Angel dot com, slash Cabrini 639 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: and get those tickets. 640 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: That's great. Well, Jeff and Edward, I want to thank 641 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: you for the commitment you've made both to change the 642 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: film business and to bring stories to life that are 643 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: inspirational and that really help move the country to a 644 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: much healthier culture and a much healthier future. And these 645 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: are often stories that would never have gotten through the 646 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: traditional Hollywood studio processing. And not only do I wish 647 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: you what is already clearly going to be a successful 648 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: opening weekend at the box office, but I also have 649 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: to say I'm looking forward to a future interview on 650 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: your next project because I know you're going to continue 651 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: to do great work. Thank you both for taking this 652 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: kind of. 653 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 4: Time well near the worlds together, Armano, Thank you so 654 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 4: much for the incredible work that you do, and thank 655 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 4: you for your support. 656 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 3: And again, together with Stronger and together. 657 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 4: With the help of God, and now with the intercession 658 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 4: of other cabrin I'm sure great things will happen in 659 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 4: the world. 660 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 2: Thank you newt for having us on. We appreciate having 661 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: a chance to tell the story of such an incredible woman, 662 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 2: and it matters so much for me, as a father 663 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: of daughters, to be able to get the word out 664 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: about this film. 665 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: Thank you to my guests Jeff Harmon and Edward Overestigate. 666 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: You can watch the Cabrini movie trailer and get a 667 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: link to buy tickets on our show page at newtsworld 668 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: dot com. Newtsworld is produced by gingwickh three sixty and iHeartMedia. 669 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: Our executive producer is Guernsey Sloan. 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