1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Here comes the outlaw, Kevin Kiermeyer, recently retired from the sport, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: one of the best to watch manning the outfield just 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: like Kevin Plart. 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: This is cool for me. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: We got the two Kevin that dominated the highlights for 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: like a decade. 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 2: Kk. 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Great to have you on the show here for the 9 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: first time. Congrats on retirement and how you doing. Man, 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: how's retired life? 11 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm good, thanks for having me. By the way, retired 12 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: life is good. A little slow, a little slow, but good. 13 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: I'm a dad of three now. I had my daughter 14 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: last December, so this whole year I was super busy 15 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: and kind of all over and I'm someone who has 16 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: like severe ADHD, so I need variety and to switch 17 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: things up. So as long as I'm on the go, 18 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: I'm in a good place. But once again, I definitely 19 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: missed the adrenaline, and you know, I missed baseball a ton. 20 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: But I'm right where I need to be and life 21 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: is good. So I'm figuring out life after baseball and 22 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: trying to get creative with a couple of things. So 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: I'm a lucky man. 24 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: Before we get to your creativity and your like job 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: movement creation that you're that you're trying to come up 26 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: with here, I gotta say, I played with KP. I 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 3: played with Kevin, the cool Kevin, and I played with 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 3: the good looking Kevin. Is you now you're better looking 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: because you got the gold gloves? But I know that 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: burns KP up inside? So is there any way you 31 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: could get like a little mini gold glove for KP? Like, 32 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: because I feel like I think I forget what year 33 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, he gave you a run for your money 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: and you still took it from him, Like, is there 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: any way you can give my guy because all he 36 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: was getting was like the Wilson Defensive Player of the 37 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: Year and that's like it's like a cool second place trophy. 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: So can you help my guy out a little bit? 39 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: You know? I knew I was gonna win it, Like 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: in fifteen, I had my best year ever in one 41 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 2: Platinum that season and then that that created like like 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: a different monster in me where I said, I I'm 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: going to win this thing for until further notice type thing. 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: And sixteen I got hurt. I shattered my left hand 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: and I went on the sixty day and that was 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: like May and the gold Glove thing, It's like the 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: way the voting goes and all that, it's like you 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: have to have a certain amount of innings and time 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: played before, like August twentieth or something like that. It's 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: close to that might not be spot on, but it's 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: something along those guidelines. And once again like whenever you 52 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: win this award, it's it's something that you want to 53 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: win forever. And me, I was a defensive guy, and 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: it's like, look, if I handle my business and stay 55 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: on the field, then I think this is my award 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: to lose type of thing. Now. With that being said, 57 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: though I knew Pilar was always in Toronto, Jackie Bradley 58 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: in Boston and trout out there like it was, it 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: always seemed like it was like this same guys who 60 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: were kind of in the running for it. And that 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: was the year where I did not think I was 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: gonna win just because of my time missed. And I 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: would have totally understood that, but you know, I wanted 64 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: and I was thrilled about that. But I definitely know 65 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: why kp was, you know, not not thrilled about that. 66 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: Had every right to be upset, and he pro I 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: don't off top of my head, I don't know how 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: many games you played that year, but I feel like 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: you were always playing one fifty plus and that's something 70 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: I'm very envious of. And I wasn't on the field 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: as much as I would have liked to. But with 72 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: that being said, I don't I don't have a little 73 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: gold Glove award. But he was amazing out there and 74 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: his highlights and just playing against him nineteen times a 75 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: year within the Al East was always fun and it 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: motivated me. And you know, I wanted to run the 77 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: bass hard and I hit the ball to him and 78 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure he tried doing the same to me. But 79 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: it was always a fun little competition and the ALE 80 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: East always had plenty of that. And that's why I 81 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: was so thankful to come up in that league for 82 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: so long, because the players that I played against over 83 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: and over, year after year, it was a blessing. 84 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 85 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 4: I think there's this kind of running joke that me 86 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 4: and him didn't like each other. We really never really 87 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: crossed pass. I think maybe the one time when we 88 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: got David Price, Toronto got David Price. I think he 89 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: introduced this to each other, but it was all friendly. 90 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 4: I wouldn't even say friendly competition. I think we kind 91 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: of motivated each other to be our best. I obviously 92 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: wanted to win some awards. He won the awards, but 93 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: I don't think any less of what I was able 94 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 4: to accomplish. He motivated me every time I went on 95 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 4: the field. I watched him make plays. I watched the highlights. 96 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: I wanted to one up them. I think we kind 97 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 4: of motivated each other. But I guess the main reason 98 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: you're on is you came out and talked about wanting 99 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: to kind of change the landscape of outfield play. And 100 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 4: no better a guy to learn from than you. But 101 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: I guess my first question is you got draft in 102 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: twenty ten. Tell me a little bit about your scouting report, 103 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: your skill set, and then how you kind of developed 104 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 4: into the outfielder you became. 105 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was raw forever, never wanted to play pro ball. 106 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: I just wanted to go play D one like that 107 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: was my goal. And I wanted to go to Purdue. 108 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: I'm wrapping my boilers today. I wanted to go to 109 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: Purdue and I wasn't good enough out of high school. 110 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: Didn't get good enough grades either. I gotta throw that 111 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: in there, be accountable for that. But I went to 112 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: JUCO called Parkland and Champagne, Illinois. Had no idea what 113 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: to expect, but it was the best thing that ever 114 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 2: happened to me. In one one night before my Christmas break, 115 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: going home back to Indiana for a month, there was 116 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: a scout in our gym. I had no idea. I 117 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: thought it was someone's grandpa, honestly, and he was there 118 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: watching a teammate of mine. And then after the practice 119 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: he came up to me. It's the guy who signed me. 120 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 2: His name's Tom Cousten. But he gave me a card 121 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: like his business card in it, and he's like, I 122 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: love the way you look, I love the way you move. 123 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: Will be in touch. You can play. And it was 124 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: a life chain moment for me, and it was like 125 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: a surge of motivation that I like, at that moment, 126 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a professional baseball player fastward like 127 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: I was raw. I was an All American both years, 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: and like started to hit for the first time ever. Thankfully, 129 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: the metal bats back in the day were amazing, and 130 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: I was hitting homers and all this stuff, and I 131 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: was told I was going to get drafted eight to 132 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: fifteenth round, so I had a draft party, like that 133 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: second day of the draft, my name never got called. 134 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: My buddies were over like drinking, playing woof the ball, 135 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: and I'm sitting here at the phone the whole time, 136 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: never got that call. And sure enough, like the third 137 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: day of the draft, rounds thirty one through fifty, my 138 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: name gets called. 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You came into the 172 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: Ray's organization and you know, playing for the Phillies, the Yankees, 173 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: the Blue Jays, we were always playing the Ray's minor 174 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: league system and everything coming up? Who was that guy 175 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: for you? And I want to kind of take that 176 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: and transition it into your unique like job job search 177 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: that you have, and like, how is that how is 178 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 3: that learning process to become Because you don't just become 179 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: a goal glover, a platinum glover. 180 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 2: Yep, it's a good question. I didn't really emulate anyone, 181 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: uh so to say, but I watched. I watch like 182 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: Jim Edmonds is one that sticks out. Adam Jones for 183 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: the Orioles all the years. Like love watching him play 184 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: Tory Hunter. I just I love getting on YouTube and 185 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: like watching what the best of the best do. And 186 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: for me, I knew that hitting was always so hard 187 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: to me, so freaking hard, and it drove me nuts. 188 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: And I knew defense was going to be my calling 189 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: card and I was like, man, I think I can 190 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: be incredible at this because I always felt like I 191 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: was super athletic, and I always was like obsessed with 192 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: working on my craft in my arm and how to 193 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: throw harder and more accurate and get faster, like I 194 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: had all these things bubbling, and then shortly into my 195 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: minor league career, like just the way I did drills 196 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: and did batting practice, I feel like that is what 197 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: made me so good because I was testing myself every 198 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: day and then like training my eyes to get reads 199 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: on the ball. And I feel like when I was 200 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: in Lowa twenty eleven, I was like, I know, I'm 201 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: so far away from the big leagues, but I feel 202 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: like defensively and who what I had? The highlights I 203 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: see on TV and whatnot, I feel like no one 204 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: can make the plays that I can, or cover the 205 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: ground and control the game the way I can. That 206 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 2: was a young, clueless minor leaguer, but I always had 207 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: that confidence in that mindset that I wanted to be 208 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: great at it, and like even my minor league, my 209 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: minor league numbers were insane, and then like shortly after that, 210 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: where I'm like, look, i can't wait to show people 211 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: when I get to like double A and TRIPLEA, where 212 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: I can show people what I can do because I'm 213 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: making plays every night, like at like fifteen outfield assists 214 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 2: every year my minor league career. I'm just like, man, 215 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: I feel like I don't have a weakness out here, 216 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: and I can't wait to become the player I want 217 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: to be up in the big league so I can 218 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 2: show everybody what I can do in all facets of 219 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: the game, but especially defense, where I just felt like 220 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: I've been different for a long time and those are 221 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: the like defense gave me confidence within the whole game 222 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: and it's like, look, even though I can, I'll struggle 223 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: with the bat this and that. I feel like I'm 224 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: the best out here. My pitchers want me, and I 225 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 2: was always confident in that regard. And it's nice to 226 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: have confidence when you're playing the big leagues because if 227 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: you don't, the game's already hard enough. So for me, 228 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: like I always like defense, just help me on the field. 229 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: Then you know, off the field as well. It kind 230 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 2: of paved everything for me in my life. 231 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we talked, you know, when I reached 232 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 4: out to get you on the show, we spent a 233 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 4: little time kind of catching up and talking. I don't 234 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 4: want you to give away kind of your secret sauce 235 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 4: because you know, going back to you kind of reaching 236 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 4: out to all these teams saying you can make these 237 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 4: outfielders better. Share with us what you feel comfortable sharing 238 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: in terms of how you think you can help these 239 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 4: organizations without giving away the KK kind of secret sauce. 240 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So for me, like I'm obsessed with this, 241 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: I've been obsessed with it forever. And what I realized, 242 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: like when you're working with people, coaches or instructors, whatever, 243 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 2: it always helps for players. For one, for someone who's 244 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: been there, done that, but for someone who loves it 245 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 2: as much as what I do. And this whole year 246 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I want to see if 247 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: I can be as good of a coach as I 248 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: think I can, and all the things that I kind 249 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: of learned and developed on my own, I feel like 250 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: I can help players as well, because they might be 251 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: like a thought or a mindset away from unlocking defensive potential. 252 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: So for me, even throughout the minor leagues, like I 253 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: watch house, my teammates and other guys did drills on 254 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: them backfields and spring training and how guys shagg VP 255 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: and then throughout the course of the season as well, 256 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here thinking, man, I understand why certain 257 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: guys are the defenders they are because they don't do 258 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: they don't practice game speed or like stay like work 259 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: on their craft and stay sharp way that I feel 260 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: like I was doing so for me once again, I 261 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: like when I came into PROBI, I was already a 262 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: good outfielder, but the steps that I took throughout my 263 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: whole career made me who I was. And I'm like, man, 264 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: no one loves this morning me, and no one is 265 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: willing to outwork or stay keep their body in shape 266 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: to perform at this level. So that's half the battle. 267 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: So for me, what I am really good at is 268 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: creating a mindset for these guys and be like, hey, 269 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: I know you you hit homers and do this and that, 270 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: but I want you to sit here and want the 271 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 2: team to trust you to be out there for twenty 272 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: seven outs instead of coming out in the eighth or 273 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: ninth inning when your team's up two or three. Like, 274 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 2: I want guys to be out there and have that 275 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: confidence out there in the outfield, the same as you 276 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: know the dudes who crush and have that confidence in 277 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: the batter's box. But the way we do drills game 278 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: speed and the way we shag BP and and just 279 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: how I can like break down balls at the wall 280 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: and sliding plays like just my insight and the things 281 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: that you know, you're just trying to make it make 282 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: sense type of thing. And for me, I feel like 283 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: there are so many drills that are still done to 284 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: this day that are just eyewash and they're not getting 285 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: guys better. It's like I'm going to do the things. 286 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to have you guys do the things that 287 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: are going to be here and it's gonna like you're 288 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: going to see it every day. But throwing program, I said, 289 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 2: drill work certain speed, and because a lot of times 290 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: in KP were I was telling you about this in 291 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 2: text last week. But I'm like, man, if guys go 292 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: and do a drill forty to sixty percent over and over, 293 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: it's like you're you're conditioning your body to know that speed. 294 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: And then when the game happens and you got to 295 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: charge the ball and chop your feet and keep the 296 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: momentum going forward to throw someone out at home. This 297 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: is the first time that player has like practice or 298 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: had this play happen where they need one hundred percent 299 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: effort and they and it's just like not it's like 300 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: foreign to them because they're not used to it. And 301 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: you see how plays get sped up on certain guys. 302 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: So for me, I feel like if you sit here 303 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: and practice a certain way it gets it'll show on 304 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: the field because if I can teach these guys to 305 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: operate one hundred percent and do everything game speed, and 306 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: there's no adjustment when the light's turn on to the game, 307 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: when guys have to like turn it on once seven 308 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: o'clock starts and say, okay, now I need to go 309 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I think those are the guys who 310 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: are susceptible to uh not being the best out footers, 311 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: are getting the best jumps or you know, all the 312 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: little things that matter for being great out there. And 313 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: that's where I said, you know, you plugged me in 314 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: and have these guys do it the proper way, then 315 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: you get so much more out of players and see 316 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: what kind of defensive potential we can maximize if we 317 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: go about it and prep the right way. 318 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 3: KK first of all, comment, then a question. Comment, And 319 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: my son is a junior in high school. He's a 320 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: center fielder. So I'm gonna need your I'm gonna need 321 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: your number from KP after this so you can get 322 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: you can get you can get my guy going out 323 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: there because you know, I ain't teaching no mobility nothing. 324 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 3: I'm squatting behind the plate. And he's good looking like you, 325 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: so it's it's good. But my question is I want 326 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: you to put yourself back in your shoes as a player. 327 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: And this is where what you were saying when you 328 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: put posted it on Twitter and Instagram and everything about 329 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: being a coach for different Orgs. What would you do 330 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 3: if the outfield coach from the Yankees came over and 331 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: was like, KK, I'm working with you these three days 332 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: in spring training and then yo, I'm going over to Dunedin. 333 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be working with the J's for like three 334 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: days next weekend. How do you feel like you can 335 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: navigate that without it being a like, you know, come 336 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 3: to kk's camp, come to kk's outfield off season camp 337 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: type of thing. Because when you said it, we even 338 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: said it on the show here. Aj said a little 339 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: worse words than I did, but we were kind of like, 340 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: I don't know how this is gonna work because you can't. 341 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: You can't work with the Rays and then expect somebody 342 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: with the Red Sox to listen to you. Also, no 343 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: matter how much of a g you are at what 344 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: you teach. 345 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: So that's where I'm going to disagree with you right there, 346 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: because my phone has been blowing up and I will 347 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: be going out to a Z in Florida. I will 348 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: like after a week of this already, like it's already 349 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: it's taken off, just like I knew it would. And 350 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 2: I know for me, like I never go by the book, man, 351 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: I'm creative and even like the job I held the 352 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: Blue Jays last year, I'm like, if they agree to this, 353 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: it's gonna be great. And they did and it was 354 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: great for both sides. But for me, it's just like 355 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 2: you know, all I said, like people go and see 356 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: a hitting coach in the offseason and whatever. You don't 357 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: have to be like within your organization. But there's so 358 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: many guys who I just feel like they're never around 359 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: the right person to like take that next step defensively, 360 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: and that's all I have to offer. Like I'm not 361 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: in batting cages telling guys how to hit. I know 362 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: I stayed in my lane, but with this, it's one 363 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: of those things. Even like back in the day, we 364 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: had a mental skills guy. His name is Vince Lodado 365 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: and he worked with five or other teams, and it's 366 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: not like he's in the meeting rooms with other teams 367 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: give an insight intel. I don't care about that. I 368 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: don't I'm not gonna be anywhere around that type of stuff. 369 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,239 Speaker 2: It's just I want teams to view It's like, hey, 370 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: if you got a chance to work with one of 371 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: the best that what they did, why would you not 372 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: take advantage of this type of thing, and once again 373 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: I put that out there. I wanted to get the 374 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: word out and just see what kind of buzz I 375 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: could get from it. And my phone's been ringing off 376 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 2: the hook from teams and like guys wanted to reach 377 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: out individually. And I have that leverage where it's going 378 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: to sound so cocky and arrogant, but I'm I'm one 379 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: of the best ever to play the position from a 380 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: defensive standpoint, and I cracked the code and know what 381 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: to do, and I just I need to be around 382 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: just for a little bit of time and just help, 383 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: Like I just want to help, and that's it. I 384 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 2: don't want to be necessarily tied to organizations this year. 385 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 2: And I know I saw what aj Persienci said and 386 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: I saved that video and I'm going to tell like 387 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: it was funny, but I'm doing it. I already know 388 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: it's going to happen, and you know, I can say 389 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: that I'm going to be the first to do it 390 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: in this regard, but sometimes you just got to shoot 391 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: your shot. And for me, like the calls I've had 392 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: with teams so far, it's just one of the things 393 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, look, I question player development, because every year 394 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 2: in spring training you hear from teams over and over saying, Hey, 395 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna hire the best people, We're going 396 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 2: to get the best equipment and do this, this and 397 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: that to give you guys the best chance of being 398 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: big leaguers and make you the best players we can be, 399 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: which I call BS on that in so many ways 400 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: because I don't think they mean that when they say that. 401 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: But in my situation, I say, Hey, if teams don't 402 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 2: want to reach out to me and use my services 403 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: to their advantage for their players, then so be it. 404 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: Like they already know that there's teams out there who 405 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: are trying to compete next year, and there's teams who 406 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: are not. I'm not trying to get off track, but 407 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: the teams who've reached out to me already are the 408 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: teams who are probably going to have a successful twenty 409 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: twenty six type of thing. And you know there's certain 410 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 2: players in your organization that might need to take that 411 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: next step defensively. And that's where, like I said, I 412 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: for like my expertises, and I feel like I'm I'm 413 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: the best at coaching it. Even after a year into 414 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: this and I have an ability to break so many 415 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: different things down other than like a surface sea level, 416 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 2: which a lot of coaching can be nowadays, which is okay, 417 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: But this is what I want to do, and like 418 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: I said, I'm going to do it. And I've had 419 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 2: a ton ton of calls already and it's been a blast. 420 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 2: I need something to chase again. I need something to 421 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: motivate me. And I've always had great satisfaction helping guys 422 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: out along the way, and now I can kind of 423 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: do that more on a full time basis without having 424 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 2: to worry about anything for my career. I just I 425 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: want to help anyone and everyone who wants to get 426 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: better and wants to be around me. 427 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: Well, Cratzy made a great point, because there's things out 428 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 4: there like tight End Camp. So OKK, if you start 429 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 4: your center field camp, you got my number, I'd love 430 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 4: to come out and help out. It'd actually be kind 431 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 4: of a cool thing, you know something. Yeah, this is 432 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 4: need something to kind of motivate you and Chase. I 433 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 4: think it's a great thing. 434 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just the start. I said. I want 435 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 2: to revolutionize it, and I know the things that I'm 436 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: going to do with certain guys can can do just that, 437 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: I promise you. And when I am in a z 438 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: and Florida spring training, I'm going to send a video 439 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 2: to AJ Prazinski because, like I said, I know, I 440 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: know he said what he said, but and it doesn't 441 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: seem like it's possible. But once again, like I'm very 442 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: creative and I have that leverage where certain player development 443 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 2: people are gonna want me to be around their players 444 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: and for me being around the game so long, once again, 445 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: I know where I need to be on the facility. 446 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: I know which fields and I know where to bounce 447 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 2: around and not over like over. I don't know what 448 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: word I'm trying to say. I'm not trying to abuse anything, 449 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: And I said, I want the teams to treat me 450 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: for the five days or whatever I'm around as if 451 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm employed, because I'm going to give those players everything 452 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: I got. I don't care if it's low A, big 453 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: leagues wherever I go out at once, that's all I know, 454 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: and we're just gonna see what happens with it. 455 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw you a quick curveball here. We have 456 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 4: a lot of similarities in our career. I'm recently retired. 457 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 4: You've had a full year of retirement. Do you ever 458 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: sit at home because I get these feelings sometimes and 459 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 4: I like or when I watch games, I watch the 460 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: way people hit or the pay way people work. You 461 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 4: ever sit at home and think about, like, damn, I 462 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 4: wish I would have done something different offensively and where 463 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: your career kind of trajectory would have gone. Because I 464 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 4: get those feelings all the time. 465 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: The hills all the time, man all the time I 466 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: and most of it is offensively where I was like man, 467 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: I and there's no way to justify this. There's no 468 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 2: way anyone took more swings from twenty ten to twenty 469 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 2: twenty four than me. Not that or it's not even impressive. 470 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: I drove myself crazy my whole career trying to unlock 471 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: my offensive potential, and I always felt like I was 472 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: on my way, and each and every night I took 473 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: the field, I feel like I did everything to get 474 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: myself the best chance at success. But I go back 475 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 2: and look at video or certain at bats, and I'm 476 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: just like, goly, what in the world was I doing 477 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: right there? So could it would have should have? But 478 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: hitting I don't know. Man, I feel like the the 479 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: less I knew about it and mechanics and all that, 480 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: the better I was. And then I just I dug 481 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: so deep into it and went down so many rabbit 482 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: holes and tried so many different things and then everything 483 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: like I tried so many hundreds of stances, and and uh, 484 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: I feel like I just got comfortable with doing things 485 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 2: that were not mechanically or technically right, and that was 486 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 2: what was comfortable to me. And then you sit around 487 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: and watch other great hitters and what they do, and 488 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I can't even do that on a 489 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: on a dry swing. So yeah, a lot of that 490 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: could it would have should have. But you know, we 491 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: had long enough, or I had a long enough time 492 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: to make those adjustments and be better. And once again, 493 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 2: every night, I feel like I gave myself the best 494 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: possible chance. But looking back on I know I could 495 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: have been so much better than what I was, and 496 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: you know it is what it is, all right. 497 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: Last one probably a shorter answer, but I'm not gonna 498 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 3: see if you can tell KP doesn't like you because 499 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: he said with three curveball, he knows you couldn't hit 500 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: a curveball. This is a straight fastball. Okay, this is 501 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: a straight fastball. Since you're into the consulting role, did 502 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: the people putting the roof back on the trap consult 503 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: you about the color of the roof before they put 504 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: it back on. 505 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: No, I was not a part of any of those convos. 506 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: I haven't been a Ray for a while. So they 507 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: they It seems like they got all twenty six panels 508 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: up and they're gonna be up and running next year. 509 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: So I'm pumped about that. But uh no, no, no 510 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: one hit me up and asked what kind of customization 511 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 2: we needed. 512 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: They could have they could have Should it have been black? 513 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 3: Because you look down, you got no chance. 514 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: Hey, catching a dirty white ball on a dirty white roof. 515 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: It never got easier, but it made me. It made 516 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: me a better outfield. No warning track either, And uh 517 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: I love man. That's that's my home away from the home. 518 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: That's where I was born, I feel like in twenty fourteen, 519 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: so that's my that's my spot man o KK this 520 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: was awesome, dude. 521 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: Great to have you on, great to talk and elaborate 522 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: on what you were writing about on social media. Good 523 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: luck with it and we'll obviously get progress checks, especially 524 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: through KP as well. Thanks for joining us. 525 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: Man, yep. Yeah, you'll be hearing back from me. And 526 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 2: like I said, I'm gonna let Aj Brazinski know, I'm 527 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: gonna shut them up and it's gonna be a good 528 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: when I do. 529 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: We're clipping that to run it back next time, please exactly. 530 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: Kratz and me spend a lot of time with AJ 531 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: KP a little bit too. 532 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 2: We're here for it, we're clipping it. Do your thing. 533 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: We're rooting for you man. All right, sounds good. Thanks 534 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: for having me, guys,