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Speaker 3: I got the burps today.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, mother fucking coming to you.

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Speaker 4: Live with the bird. You have the burbs though, Like

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Speaker 4: the burps are so what I have though?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: The burpstart thing you have?

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Speaker 3: Right? What does that mean? I just I just see

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Speaker 3: you doing this. Call me a bourbon ass.

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Speaker 5: Like I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a clogged up allergic

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Speaker 5: to everything asked.

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Speaker 4: Nigga. You you are.

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Speaker 2: A thing.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I hadn't previously thought of myself as a

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Speaker 3: I neither until you brought it up. I'm like, does it?

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's his thing, but anyway.

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Speaker 3: Producers always by the lovely and talented Jackson sethun, Why

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Speaker 3: what's Tyler's thing?

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Speaker 4: Hacks nigga?

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Speaker 2: I mean calling like a motherfucker, but I meat my

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Speaker 2: ship if y'all will never beat I'm an allergy boy.

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Speaker 2: Man my throat beat tickling my eyes of itching, bro.

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Speaker 4: My, it's my ears. I'm always cleaning my ears, y'all

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Speaker 4: peep it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you ever noticed it, but I'll

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Speaker 5: do that to like pop my ears.

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Speaker 3: I know we talked about it on this show, But

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Speaker 3: isn't it a trip that the reason your your allergies

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Speaker 3: are triggered is because of how much tree com is

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Speaker 3: like floating around in the air. Like it's just an

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Speaker 3: intolerable amount of treat come.

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Speaker 2: It's it's unbearable, bro plants. I hear busting nuts everywhere,

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Speaker 2: and we gotta do it for me.

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Speaker 5: It's just weird that my body is overreacting to something

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Speaker 5: like but like, my body's response is too much and

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Speaker 5: it needs to calm it's ass down, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like it's that's that's weird to me.

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Speaker 3: I never experienced allergies and it drives shark crazy.

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Speaker 4: Because you are the luckiest human on the planet.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get allergy until I was like twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I have no fucking idea how that happened. Dude, it

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Speaker 2: just came on. Yeah, maybe I shouldn't have my fucking mouth. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's never too late. I'll take that.

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Speaker 6: Are so bad I had to go. I went, this

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Speaker 6: is kind of embarrassing. Honestly, the miordies are so bad

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Speaker 6: like trying to get some some assistance, some medical health

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Speaker 6: twenty three at twenty seven, twenty three, and they do

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Speaker 6: this like scratch test on your back right to test

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Speaker 6: what you're how allergic you are.

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Speaker 4: I did that in high school. I did that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, a lot of people have done it. But

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Speaker 6: I swear to you got like they like do the scratch,

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Speaker 6: and then they come back in and check you.

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Speaker 4: You just swoll up like I was like, I was like, damn,

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Speaker 4: I shit, is hella itchy? Like like don't touch it?

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: The doctor comes back in, I swear to God and goes,

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Speaker 6: oh my he goes, you're the most allergic person in

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Speaker 4: Said you alerge to every tree.

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Speaker 6: It's really mostly mostly grass and tree like, it's like

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Speaker 3: It's just grass and trees. It's it's just all outdoor.

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Speaker 3: It's just and like to.

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Speaker 4: The extreme level. So that was a pretty rough moment

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Speaker 4: for me.

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Speaker 3: Are you a netty pot nigger?

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Speaker 4: I wasn't. I was younger. I wasn't. I was younger,

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Speaker 4: but not as m wow.

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Speaker 3: Jaxon's Asian. He had no choice but to be a nettie.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So that's that's cultural. Oh I don't know that

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Speaker 4: was know that. I thought that was.

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Speaker 3: Mashar tried to get me to use a netty pot

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Speaker 3: one time, and I waterboarded myself and was like, this

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Speaker 3: is just for y'all, Like, what.

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Speaker 4: The hell is atti pot? It's a it's a this

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Speaker 4: is such a cultural thing.

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Speaker 3: It's a special Oh, it's such an Asian thing. It's

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Speaker 3: it's like a special little tea pot and you kind

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Speaker 3: of like warm the water up a little, put some

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Speaker 3: what the angle is you can pour the water in

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Speaker 3: one nostril, it will go through your sinus system and

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Speaker 3: out the other nostril, and it feels great. According to

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Speaker 3: Sharp man, it feels great. I've never the one time

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Speaker 3: I try to do it, like I said, Tyler, it

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Speaker 6: I don't think it feels it. I don't think it's

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Speaker 6: comfortable for me, but it definitely helps if you have

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Speaker 6: if you have some sinus issues.

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Speaker 2: Bro, do y'all know we only breathe in and out

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Speaker 2: out of one nostril, like at a time, and that

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Speaker 2: ship alternates. Like put your finger under your nose right

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Speaker 2: now and watch how you the breath that you breathe

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Speaker 2: out your nose only comes out one nostril.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, Ah, we all do. We're all

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Speaker 4: doing the no.

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Speaker 3: No, it's it's it came out. I don't know, Brother

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Speaker 3: reading inter reading out Tyler. The left one felt more

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Speaker 4: But I did feel air from the right one though.

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Speaker 2: But it's heavier on. It's always heavier on one, bro,

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Speaker 2: and it alternate. Yeah, yeah, it another day, it'll probably

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Speaker 4: Nostril, bro.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little plus they taking a rest.

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Speaker 4: They taken they taken a it.

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Speaker 3: I didn't tell you you.

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Speaker 6: Could have a day off its content like crazy for

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Speaker 6: the podcast.

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Speaker 2: There's a nostrils right up next to the microphone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I I famously one time Dashar suggested that allergies, you know,

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Speaker 3: uh might not be the realist thing in the world,

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Speaker 3: like as a joke when we when we're like nineteen

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Speaker 3: years old and she is never and will never see

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Speaker 3: stick you as a person with allergies.

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Speaker 5: For somebody to not have allergies to the point where

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Speaker 5: they think it to be fake, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like it's someone like that.

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Speaker 5: I think it was actually Middle Squad did little tested

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Speaker 5: that the twenty three year old did. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, Like, I've had algies my entire life.

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Speaker 4: I was taking steroids like again he steroids socks.

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Speaker 3: I'm allergic to penicillin, Like I like, I'll die if

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, so it's not that

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Speaker 3: I don't believe allegian actions exist. I think when I

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Speaker 4: Had allergies, Jesus allergy my entire life, you know what

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Speaker 3: And you just well, one thing that Joel EmpId is

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Speaker 3: that is what we're here to talk about on this podcast.

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Speaker 3: Seventy ball from EMBD stamps his name in the history books, Fellas,

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Speaker 3: where were you.

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Speaker 2: On the day that Joel EmpId scored seven in thirty

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Speaker 2: six minutes? At that Bro Embiid has just been on

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Speaker 2: a tear. The homie Tommy Beer on Twitter put together

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Speaker 2: some stats over the last sixteen games. Joel Embiid is

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Speaker 2: averaging forty point three points, eleven point nine rebounds, five

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Speaker 2: he's been on. And Bro like that MVP is his

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Speaker 2: for the taking back to back and the fact that.

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Speaker 5: It happened against Wimby, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 5: the I want I mean because seventy is unnecessary and

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Speaker 5: they beat the team by they beat they be said

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Speaker 4: What almost almost fifteen to twenty, You know.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying, and like seventy You ain't got to put.

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Speaker 5: Seventy up in a game like that, you feel what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying. And he dropped and he dropped seventy on Winby.

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Speaker 2: Thirty six minutes.

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, he had fifty eight in the third,

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Speaker 5: Like bro, like so he I mean, I wonder if

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Speaker 5: it's like, yo, you know you you good young man.

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Speaker 4: You know, but somebody posted, uh, what's your boy name? Uh?

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Speaker 5: From He's always asking like who's the first person to

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Speaker 5: bust your ass?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he saw that tweet, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And there is Miles. It's crazy. I should know that

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Speaker 4: name for sure, but I remember, forget everybody's name. If

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Speaker 4: somebody post there is who first person bust your ass? Whim,

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Speaker 4: You'll never forget that, you know what I mean? This

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Speaker 4: might be, you know what I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, Well, like if Wemby ends up being the best

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Speaker 3: basketball player of all time, right and Bead his stamps

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Speaker 3: that any time he gets asked about what was your

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Speaker 3: welcome to the NBA moment, and Bead's name will.

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Speaker 5: Yet also we can always say, you know, hey, yeah

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Speaker 5: he's the best. But I did drop seventy on that nigga.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know that makes me, but just putting it out, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm just going, yeah, I'll just let y'all know I

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Speaker 3: You know, it's still seventy in the thing.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of fucking points.

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Speaker 4: Bro?

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Speaker 2: Nothing has robbed us of more historic performances than the

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Speaker 3: Keeping him in.

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Speaker 4: He gonna chase history.

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Speaker 2: He gonna put his name in history books and we'll

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Speaker 2: just you know, if you got issue with me, whatever,

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Speaker 2: It's nothing personal. But my dude, at the hot hand,

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Speaker 2: we had to chase history. I'm sorry, Bro, fuck that

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Speaker 2: We're shooting for eighty two here, dog, didn't didn't.

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Speaker 5: Kobe have like a sixty three point game in three

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: That season, Yeah, but it's like a couple of weeks later,

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Speaker 4: But let him play it out, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: We want to see that time so.

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Speaker 6: Well, to pull back the Draymond Green curtain. We were

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Speaker 6: Not He wasn't blaming Steve. He just like that, We're.

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Speaker 3: Always I'm blaming Steve.

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Speaker 6: Rrey was like that, we were always blowing teams out

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Speaker 6: back then. Yeah, So it was like a twenty thirty

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Speaker 6: I really hope the Spurs keep it close because he wants.

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Speaker 4: To see go all right, right right?

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Speaker 6: And I think Dre is, I feel like the players

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Speaker 6: he definitely was was hoping that the Spurs kept it

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Speaker 6: close enough, and they did. They kept it close enough,

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Speaker 6: and they ended up getting blown out. He kept it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I've told you'll bro the N Season Tournament

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Speaker 4: Eighteen rebounds two.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the motherfucker was playing basketball.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't just chasing points. He was baldly.

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Speaker 5: You feel me, we can't we can't gloss over that.

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Speaker 5: You know, he dominated in every way crazy.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about, you know, the Knights that basketball is

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Speaker 3: And the reaction that KD had when someone told him

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Speaker 2: I like the boyhood joy in him from this, like

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, you saw why we do

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Speaker 4: Such a purist.

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Speaker 6: He's the perfect person to ask, and it was the

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Speaker 3: Was the last time, Sorry ahead, No, he's the best

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Speaker 5: And he's like, oh my, like seventy, like he looked

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Speaker 5: We've ever seen reacting that way. I mean, it was

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Speaker 3: He's like seventy Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: What was the last time you saw KD smile that

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? K Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: We also had that same night Cat dropped sixty two,

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Speaker 3: got somewhere close to it, and I know their coach

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Speaker 3: wasn't happy. Now, obviously the Wolves are number one in

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Speaker 3: the wet like they're not just like you worry. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but it's not just like empty statute, right, like this

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Speaker 2: I have someone someone dropped that, you know that the

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Speaker 4: Seeing that NB put up seven though.

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Speaker 2: You better get him back call. You know that's perfect.

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Speaker 2: But the stars aligned just for that moment, Bro, thirty years.

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Speaker 3: Ago, I hated.

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Speaker 5: I hated for call that it happens like that, you know,

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Speaker 5: it seems like it, you know, even when he's I mean,

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Speaker 5: he's balling this year, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: They the first in the West.

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Speaker 2: You feel me, it's a horrendous no call at that

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Speaker 2: loss in that game though you said, you said what

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Speaker 4: Oh for sure? For show he got hit, you know

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Speaker 3: Of course it happened to carl you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Of course you're having a car you know, sixty two

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Speaker 2: Out of winby like right leaky black who never made

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Speaker 2: a though when this whole NBA career made the freedo

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Speaker 3: Did you hear the call? Did you hear the announce?

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Speaker 2: The team is so fucking good they are They are incredible, Bro.

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Speaker 5: Those small market teams are fun as ship. Like watching

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Speaker 5: can watch the small market shit. I love those small

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Speaker 5: market teams like the Kings, the broad the Broadcast yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, all right, we have a big Bucks news

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Speaker 3: and we are gonna talk to Ty Windish about this

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Speaker 3: in an interview at the end of the episode, but

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Speaker 3: we we have to talk about it first. Uh, let's

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Speaker 3: do this in two parts, the firing and the hiring.

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Speaker 3: On the firing, they're hiring are coaches thirty and thirteen

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Speaker 3: this season in Adrian Griffin. How shocked were you guys

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Speaker 2: I was a bit shocked, but at the same time,

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Speaker 2: But you know that thirty and thirteen record. It's it's

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Speaker 2: I think I know for sure I had the Bucks

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Speaker 2: winning it all. Now I'm not sure if they make

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Speaker 2: it off the east, right, that defense is not what

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Speaker 2: the bread and butter of that Bucks defense was that

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Speaker 2: this season, right, so you know they got to fix

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Speaker 2: to help you maximize dame and help you work through

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Speaker 2: all the first year growing pains that a first year

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Speaker 2: like that's when my you know, radar first one up.

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Speaker 2: And even before that, there was a quote like you

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Speaker 2: remember when when the whole fucking you know, everyone went

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Speaker 2: crazy because Janna said, if Milwaukee doesn't put a content

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Speaker 4: I'm leaving like everyone went crazy off that quote.

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Speaker 2: But if you dig deeper in those quotes he was talking,

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Speaker 2: But bro, sometimes you picked some shit and you realize, yo,

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Speaker 2: I fucked up. You know what I'm saying, Like like like,

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Speaker 2: that would be what was concerning me if I'm a

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Speaker 2: fix this ship. And then we got reports about how

441
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,400
Speaker 2: you know, even the front office wasn't on board with ag.

442
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,400
Speaker 2: So if you lose the locker room and you lose

443
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,159
Speaker 2: the front office, bro, like you know, your time is limited.

444
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:18,480
Speaker 4: Dogs.

445
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 5: So mid season though, that's what gets me. I just

446
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,360
Speaker 5: didn't think it'd be mid season. I think at least

447
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 5: give him a year. I know, we thought they'd be

448
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,280
Speaker 5: world stoppers and they're not. You know, I mean, we

449
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 5: thought it'd be impossible to stop. That team does not

450
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:31,680
Speaker 5: look anything like that.

451
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Speaker 4: But mid season, I.

452
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Speaker 5: Mean, they're thirty and thirteen though I know, I know,

453
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Speaker 5: and they just won with five out of six.

454
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You know, they're playing it

455
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,320
Speaker 4: was at the moment.

456
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Speaker 6: Adrian Griffin has the fifth highest coaching winning percentage of

457
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Speaker 6: all time.

458
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Speaker 4: But but I mean, they're not what we expected.

459
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Speaker 3: But I just I just the number two and super fair,

460
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 3: they're the number They're the number one offense in the NBA.

461
00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 3: Obviously the defenses has completely been and that's what made

462
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Speaker 3: them special.

463
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?

464
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, I mean, I mean, but but but bro,

465
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 2: that that record is a bit of fools goal because

466
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,440
Speaker 2: so many wins was just them, you know, having star

467
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 2: power with Dame and Giannis late, right like like like

468
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 2: that's and of course you need the guys to be

469
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 2: the guys when the games online, but in these early

470
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 2: season games and games like you should not be sweating

471
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 2: it out with Detroit and Charlotte.

472
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Speaker 3: Bro Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm in no way denying

473
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,400
Speaker 3: that it's fools gold. It's just that it is very

474
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,560
Speaker 3: sparkly fools gold to be thirty and thirteen, you know

475
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's it's the first year. Yeah, it's

476
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 3: not like, oh you're still fourth in the It's like

477
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 3: you're thirty and thirteen. Most teams in the league would

478
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 3: kill to have that record, Like as a Lakers watching

479
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 3: five hundred for two straight years, right like just two

480
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 3: games above five hundred, two games below five hundred.

481
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Speaker 4: That's a very different team for sure.

482
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 3: It's but with similar top fan talent, you know, at

483
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 3: least in terms of like, you know, the top two guys.

484
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 3: So it's just I don't shu agree with the decision

485
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 3: because I think Tyler hit it on the head, Like

486
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 3: you don't get how many seasons do you get with prime.

487
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 3: Honest right, you're gonna waste one fed up, but you're

488
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: gonna just waste this one. Like I I think it's

489
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: the right move. Now, go ahead, Doc, the right move

490
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 3: for what. So let's talk about Tyler the other half

491
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 3: of it.

492
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Speaker 5: Yeah, but Tyler brought up in the group that he said,

493
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 5: the coaching pool is a puddle, you know what I mean,

494
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 5: there's not a there's not there's not a lot of options,

495
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 5: and and Doc is an option that's available, and that's

496
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Speaker 5: when you want to go with like that.

497
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Speaker 4: That I mean, it seems like that's a step back.

498
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 4: You know.

499
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Speaker 5: He sees like a perpetual underachiever. And I'm not talking

500
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 5: on life. I'm just talking about, you know, coaching. I

501
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 5: don't know the nigga. I can't talk about him as

502
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 5: a human. I mean, what the fuck you know what

503
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 5: I'm saying. But as a coach, we've seen that constantly,

504
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 5: you know.

505
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. So I just don't. I don't. I

506
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 4: don't know how that makes sense.

507
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: So me, season to get Doc is crazy to me.

508
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: Here's here's the stat and and we'll talk about I

509
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 3: think we all have the same opinion of Doc Rivers

510
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 3: and so I think we probably all have the same

511
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 3: reaction to this movie. Here's the stat I would love

512
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 3: to know, has anyone failed to win a championship with

513
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: more Hall of Famers than the Hall of Famers? Who

514
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 3: did not win a championship with Doc Rivers?

515
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 5: I mean, like going on anybody else more is more obvious,

516
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, We think of Doc

517
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 5: when we hear that.

518
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 4: And we gotta gotta we gotta filter that even more.

519
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 6: Who has failed aside from the Celtics in O eight,

520
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 6: which like, who has who has failed to make a

521
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 6: conference finals with that much Hall of Fame talent, never

522
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 6: mind win the championship? Who has failed to make a

523
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 6: conference finals with that many Hall of Famers?

524
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 4: Yeah?

525
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean that's right.

526
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

527
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 2: The reports that came out today that that confirmed it

528
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 2: said that you know, they're also going to be doing

529
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 2: some searchons for some assistance to kind of you know,

530
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 2: show things.

531
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Speaker 4: Up a bit there.

532
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Speaker 2: I do think that Doc will fix that defense. I

533
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: trust them to do that much at least. And I

534
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: think if I think if they have the right assistance,

535
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 2: you know, because that so shit is bro you you

536
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 2: cannot adjust.

537
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 4: In the playoffs.

538
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 2: You know and and because we see that that that

539
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: team's figure your coaching style out mid series and and

540
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 2: and you're done, you know, most blown through one leagues

541
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: of all time. Right, So maybe if they get the

542
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: right assistance, because like I said, I think the thing

543
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: they need to do to become contenders to fix that defense.

544
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: And I do trust Doctor at least do that. I'm

545
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 2: not sure what he's gonna do in the postseason.

546
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: Gonna hope that, you know, like yeah, Yannis and Dave

547
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 3: and I mean, I guess I can get why Doc

548
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: would be so motivated because this could be for him

549
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 3: if they do win him and he has proven champion.

550
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 3: He has a proven champion already and you honest right

551
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: and motivated that's not the question.

552
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.

553
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 3: But but but think about this from his perspective, well,

554
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: because there's also some reporting out that he was hired

555
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: to be a consultant about what they should do with

556
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: the head coach and that he's straight up fucking me it. Bro.

557
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: He was like, you know what, you do need a

558
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 3: new coach and you know who is be Glen Doc Rivers.

559
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: Who in this room as a coach?

560
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: I random numbers.

561
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

562
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: I think it was consulting with Adrian Griffin though, like

563
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: helping him work through shit.

564
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: That's fouls more.

565
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 4: That's more snakish than Needo. Yikes.

566
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 6: I saw a lot of people making the same like

567
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 6: consultant speak joke where it's like have a few little

568
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 6: a few small notes, and one very very large.

569
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 3: So it feels to me like you and your you

570
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 3: and your friend are getting like beat up at school

571
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: or something, and you're like, man, me and this dude,

572
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 3: like we're just getting this dude's bullying us, Like let

573
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: me go find someone else to step in, and you

574
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: go get a ninety pound freshman to stand next year.

575
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: I just like, oh, we don't have the killer instinct

576
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 3: right now. We need to rebuild the culture. We're gonna

577
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 3: go get dot dot dot dot dot dot Doc Rivers.

578
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 3: That's the fig My mom My mom hit me up Doc.

579
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: That's all she said, Doc, you know what I mean.

580
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: She's like, she's a.

581
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 5: Fan of black coaches, just off the strings. So she's like,

582
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 5: you know, she's like, but.

583
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 3: He got what it takes. Like me, No, that agents

584
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 3: monitoring everyone's text messages must have thought everyone got sick

585
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: at the same time.

586
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: On that day.

587
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: It was just a bunch of hole texting dog Spiky, right,

588
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I really don't. I really

589
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: don't get it. And I have to say, as a

590
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 3: fan of Giannis, I'm bummed as a fan of Tyler's

591
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: Doc Rivers impression now being coupled with Giannis, I guess

592
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 3: that's exciting, But I truly don't understand what they're I

593
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: don't get it. I really don't get it. Of all

594
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: of the movie to make I do not get this. Like,

595
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't think they could have hired any not supposed.

596
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 5: To get here.

597
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 4: He is not. It does not it doesn't make sense.

598
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 2: Here's I think we all agree that we're skeptical about

599
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: Doc Rivers being a championship coach in this situation. But

600
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: it's see an improvement over Agent Griffin because I say, yes.

601
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I mean that. Yeah, and that's

602
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 3: a that's a that's a good point. I think the

603
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: thing that's surprising to me is what we just talked about.

604
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: You could have played it safe and gone to the

605
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: end of the year see if it worked out right.

606
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: They didn't do that.

607
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 3: They made the aggressive Like I would say, it's probably

608
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 3: the more analytical decision. You have X number of years

609
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 3: with Giannis, you have to maximize those years. We're gonna

610
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 3: be aggressive, We're gonna, uh, you know, we're gonna make

611
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 3: the move right now. And then it feels like you

612
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: completely reverse that philosophy by hiring doc Let's do the

613
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: safest only the most casual basketball fan thinks this is

614
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 3: a good idea move like that. That's what I don't understand.

615
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 3: You expect the the thinking that leads to firing that

616
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: guy at thirty and thirteen to lead to hiring like

617
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: a young brilliant coach, like to hiring Sean McVay or

618
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: some shit, you know what I'm saying. Like, That's what

619
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 3: surprising to me is it's like you go super aggressive

620
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 3: and analytical here and then super someone's grandma who's stopped

621
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: watching basketball in twenty ten would love this on the hire.

622
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 4: That's what's surprised me in that situation.

623
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 5: You hire if it's like what Miami did was spoke,

624
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Whereas like, we know this

625
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 5: dude is brilliant, We'll give him the keys to the Lamborghini,

626
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying, And we've never heard

627
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 5: of film. Wow, this is wild, but we believe in him.

628
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 5: Not a guy that's just like we've seen what he's

629
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 5: done in the big moments. That's not that doesn't seem

630
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 5: like that makes sense when you know what I mean, Like,

631
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 5: if you're taking it, that's not a chance. That's not

632
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 5: taking a chance on something. You know what I'm saying, Like,

633
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 5: that doesn't it doesn't make sense if you like, if

634
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 5: you're gonna go with the aggressive route to me, you know, guy, every.

635
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 6: Team has a Joe Mizoula. Guys, not every team has

636
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 6: a Joe Miszula. Just waiting in the wing.

637
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: I and Carmel's tweet. Chay Serrano was watching The Town

638
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 3: and just tweeted, uh, watching the Town for the fourteenth

639
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 3: time and like, god, damn, is it a great movie

640
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 3: or something? And I Carmel quote tweeted it said, you know, uh,

641
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: the Celtics are down fifteen in the fourth quarter, like

642
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: they need a lineup change to turn the tide. Joe

643
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Missoula and the.

644
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: Lamp was there and he took it. Got man, that

645
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 4: was fu Yeah. I was dying.

646
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I guess we're gonna I guess we're

647
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: gonna See, here's my thing. You hired a coach. You

648
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna be up three to zero in the first

649
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: round and everyone's gonna be tweeting the eyeball emot stay.

650
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 4: Up here we are you know what I mean?

651
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, but you're right, he's an improvement. I mean,

652
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: that's a that's a fair But that's actually the best

653
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: point in favor of hiring Doc Rivers that I've heard.

654
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: Did they get a better coach? Almost certainly yes, from

655
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: what everyone has said about you.

656
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just always of the belief that solutions don't

657
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: have to be absolute. Sometimes they could be incremental. And

658
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, I think that that's.

659
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: Jack Jackson's generation doesn't agree with that. But Tyler is

660
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: a black Democratic voter in a purple state. Is what

661
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: Tyler just said. That's exactly what you just said.

662
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: Like I said, you got did you see the.

663
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 7: Know?

664
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: But but yeah, but like I said, I'm interested in

665
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: seeing you know who they put on that on that

666
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: staff assistance now, like that's the next movie I'm interested in.

667
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: Here brings thoughts back, bro Like you know what I'm saying,

668
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: if an asshole ran that man out of the building

669
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: and bring that man back.

670
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: Might be enjoying that might. Yeah, trying to tell you.

671
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 8: Know what I'm saying, Toads, I'll been trying to say it.

672
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

673
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: All Right, let's say we're gonna talk a little what's

674
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: not really football. We're gonna we're gonna talk a little. Uh,

675
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk a little white culture guys. You know,

676
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift has achieved all kinds of incredible things in

677
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 3: her career, and I just want to give her credit

678
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 3: that she's not really been known for being a great dancer,

679
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: at least in my knowledge of her. But she's invented

680
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: something called swag surfing. Wow, that's huge. Never heard of

681
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: that before. Who's this white woman who was was invented

682
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: swag surfing? John can't even do the bit. Look at how.

683
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: It's filthy, it's nasty.

684
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 9: I don't want to take part in this, just just

685
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 9: the gentrification bro Like I don't know, like like I

686
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 9: feel like maybe these are my my alumni blinders on,

687
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 9: but I feel like Anti kind of made swag surfing big.

688
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: I remember that was the first time I heard of

689
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: it being a big fucking deal. And arenas at like

690
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: twenty ten and shit, but now you know, Taylor Swift

691
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: is on the scene and swagsurfing is all the rate.

692
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 5: So I think I think swag surfing was it came

693
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 5: out and it took everybody, you know what I'm saying, Like,

694
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: I think A and T showed us that everybody does.

695
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 4: It though like yeah, you know, like we didn't.

696
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 5: We didn't see every It wasn't like the snap dance

697
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 5: where we everybody had a YouTube video or doing, you know,

698
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 5: doing the snap dance.

699
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

700
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm not saying ain't and vinted it,

701
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: but that's when.

702
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 5: No, but I'm saying like that's when we was like

703
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: because when you saw you was probably in the crib

704
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 5: like wanting to swags hurt to that, like everybody we

705
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 5: all felt the same way seeing that video. So oh

706
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 5: we all were took part in ship like this, you

707
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: feel me? I think that's what like.

708
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 4: Also this like my exact respond to the video.

709
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 5: All I said was Nope, I didn't want to shop

710
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 5: on her because I think she's a solid person. We've

711
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: y'all hit me to you know that she's not like

712
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 5: you know that she's a she's a really good human being.

713
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: And so we don't we put you on the Taylor

714
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: Swift Tyler, I'm not a Taylor Swift fan.

715
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: No. First, you said you heard some bangers.

716
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: I never heard ship.

717
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: I don't she done.

718
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 5: Y'all play the song and I was like, I know,

719
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 5: I don't hear that, you know what I'm saying. Like,

720
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 5: but I'm saying like, y'all told me that she's a

721
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 5: solid motherfucker. So I was like, I ain't trying to

722
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 5: shit on her. She's solid, you know what I mean.

723
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna say, no, this is where I draw

724
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 5: the line. You feel me personally. You don't have to

725
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 5: give a fuck what I think. But nope, you know

726
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And a lot of niggas fuck same.

727
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 5: It looked nasty, you know what I mean. So as

728
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 5: a nigga who lives in an area where there's a

729
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 5: gentrified fucking like a big ass fox house being built

730
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 5: right behind my shit, blocking out the sun in my backyard, nigga,

731
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 5: I don't want to participate in this big nigga fuck

732
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 5: that shit. Bro, it's nasty out here. Dog ain't no

733
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 5: room to play with it. She Yeah, look, I think.

734
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 5: I think Taylor Swift is a very good person.

735
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: Right once I found out that she she gave fifty

736
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: thousand dollars bonuses to every single worker on her tour,

737
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: like all fun. Yeah, I was like, yeah, you're good forever.

738
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: Like I think that she's on the receiving end of

739
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: a lot of it. Choll that shouldn't be aimed at her, Like,

740
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: ain't that shit at the media for like, you know,

741
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: sensationalizing her, you know, being a Chiefs fan. Now that

742
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: shit ain't got nothing to do with tailing. That's her

743
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: fucking man that she's supporting, you know what I'm saying.

744
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: And she was just having fun, you know what I'm saying.

745
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 5: But I knew what it was gonna become, Like, of

746
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 5: course I respect the motherfucking here swash surfing, this swag.

747
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: It want to hit that mother for that. That shit

748
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: fun as hell, you know what I mean. It's a vive.

749
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: But you knew what's gonna come after it, you.

750
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 5: Know what I mean, We knew what was happening, you

751
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 5: know what. I brought it to the masses, and it's like,

752
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: these aren't the masses that we wanted brought to you

753
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 5: feel what I'm saying, let's hide certain things.

754
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: Nigga.

755
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: I remember, I.

756
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: Remember, I remember there was this there's this particular food

757
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: that I like.

758
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 5: It's like, I'm not gonna say because you'll realize, and

759
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 5: so like they they being with rather, there's a particular

760
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 5: food that South Asian people eat that's fire as fuck.

761
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 5: And I was like, why ain't y'all tell me about this?

762
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 5: And in the South Asian motherfucking hit me up? You

763
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. He was like, you gotta keep

764
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 5: something see yourself. And I didn't take that personally. I'm like, nigga,

765
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 5: you right, you know what I'm saying.

766
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: And so something tails eighty dollars a pound now like

767
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: but also but also.

768
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: I'll go to motherfucker motherfucking.

769
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 8: Hale Foods and see some South Asian dishes that ain't

770
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 8: made by South Asian company. Nigga, you feel what I'm saying,

771
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 8: Like they like you said, the oxtails, they running the

772
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 8: shit up. You feel me like, nigga, we can't have shit,

773
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 8: so sometimes you gotta hide some shit. I wanted that

774
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 8: to stay head, Nigga, that amongst the Negroes, the blacks,

775
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 8: the niggers, you.

776
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: Know, what I'm saying, let's keep that amongst us. You

777
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: know what I mean. We don't want that out there

778
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: with the problem was like the reasons the moon cricket.

779
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: It never, it never stroaches out of my business, you

780
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: feel me. The snow roaches have gotten a hold of it.

781
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 3: The front hold the slag surfing always had. Is that

782
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: the hawk like white cultural appropriators in America that are

783
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: always circling Black culture looking for something to swoop down

784
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 3: and snatch up. Right, they're looking for is it fun? Yeah?

785
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 3: Do you require a lot.

786
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 4: Of rhythm to do it?

787
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: No?

788
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 5: You know, like you said, did she do you? You

789
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: don't need an eight count for the swag, sir.

790
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

791
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: You don't need an account five six seven eight.

792
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 4: You don't need none of that.

793
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: You know what? You do it while drunk?

794
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: Yes, bro, White people love songs that tell them like

795
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: what to do. Like you, if you're ever around a

796
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: group of white people and flow riders, low, come on, no, no,

797
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: everybody as.

798
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 8: They just right, bro, I ain't never I've seen a

799
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 8: few actually know that.

800
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 5: That Uh the country nigga in Tennessee that was doing

801
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 5: the line dancing ship he hit that whole kind of

802
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 5: nicely you feel me, But uh yeah, that's been a

803
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 5: difficult one.

804
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: I think. I think I think they struggle to catch

805
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 4: on white because they can't really.

806
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 5: But you hear them like like if somebody tells them

807
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 5: what to do, like you see them doing it like verbatim,

808
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 5: Like they don't they don't have any type of you

809
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.

810
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: It's it's one thing white people just I don't know,

811
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: it's we can't read these dance like putting legos together,

812
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like but but but I

813
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 3: do think it's it's connected to and Tyler and also

814
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: Trill Tyler have both commented on this, and I I

815
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: really do think it's one of the great anthropological observations

816
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: of the Internet era. White people also dance to the

817
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: melody and not to the beat, which is it's like

818
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: there is an inability to understand the underlying beat of

819
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: a song and it so I feel like dances that

820
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: have verbal instructions are very important to white people. I

821
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 3: do feel that to the melody, how do you do that?

822
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: The next time you're at a wedding with white people? Watch,

823
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: I promise like it And and I'm not. I want

824
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: to be clear, I'm not saying this trying to set

825
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 3: myself apart from white people. It cured me, like sharp,

826
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: been trying to figure out why I couldn't dance in

827
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: a basic way for our entire relationship. And I think

828
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: it was Trill's tweet the first time I saw it,

829
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 3: and I went, I am always moving to the fucking melody.

830
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: And I played music so I know what the beat

831
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: is and let me just only focus on that. And

832
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, we're at weddings and I'm the

833
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: white guy who does not trip over himself.

834
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 5: Dan, what's funny is you saying, next time you're at

835
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 5: a wedding with white people.

836
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 4: I've never been to one, but I'm going to one

837
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 4: this year for the first time. Oh, I'm I'll be

838
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: able to I'll let you know report back. That's crazy.

839
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: Where are you going? No, I'm gonna put it on

840
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: the calendar.

841
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 5: We need to talk about it. I think this is summer.

842
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 5: I don't be knowing. I think it's this summer. But yeah, yeah,

843
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 5: I'll let you know.

844
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 3: I'll look it up when they start playing Taylor Swift

845
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: or whatever they're gonna play. I promise you you will

846
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: see when the melodies start or when the when the

847
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 3: when the chorus starts, they'll start dancing harder, you know

848
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 3: what I mean.

849
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: What's great about that is that's when I'll probably sit down,

850
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and I can just really watch.

851
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: I'm not dancing to tennis. That's just not in me,

852
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 4: you know, for the world to her.

853
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 6: When mister Brideside comes on, he has no idea.

854
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 5: A little about to experience you sing a little bit

855
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 5: of that?

856
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: What is that in my shelle and I'm feeling just fine.

857
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 3: Gotta gotta be down because I want it. People are

858
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 3: people dancing to the gotta gotta be down, not to

859
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: their feet, I promise you.

860
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: White people song at a wedding is shout. I just

861
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: had to throw that in there because.

862
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: Make me want to shout. They dance that they are.

863
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 3: If you want to really get into the cultural difference

864
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: between different races of America, it's talk to a wedding DJ.

865
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh I got a home.

866
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 4: We should bring him on.

867
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: The pod if you have If you have a friend

868
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: who's a wedding DJ, who DJ's different races weddings?

869
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: I like that?

870
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 3: Will I promise you that would be an entertaining conversation.

871
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: I call them after the record.

872
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta.

873
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure that out. This is very interesting.

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Speaker 3: he might be confused too. He might might solve something

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Right. Just to put a button on this segment,

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Speaker 6: I was trying to see what there are any funny

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Speaker 6: news articles about this Taylor Swift thing, because everything she

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Speaker 6: Probably the title, what is swag Surfing? Everything to know

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Speaker 3: First of all, they fucked their seo up because Taylor

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Speaker 4: Surfing wa and Taylor swags.

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Speaker 3: Windish from the Euros Step podcast. Tye is a Bucks

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Speaker 3: expert and obviously it's been a very momentous time. Ty

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for hopping on the show. And

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Speaker 3: what's the last week or two have been like for

947
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Speaker 3: you covering the Bucks brother?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me first before I get into

949
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Speaker 1: what it's been like. So I hate being the person

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Speaker 1: who does this. But two days ago it was my birthday,

951
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: which is great, you know everything else I'm not trying

952
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: to listen.

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Speaker 7: Happy gay here, Happy birthday.

954
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Speaker 1: And like one PM or eleven or whatever was you

955
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: just see that Adrian Griffin has been fired by the Bucks.

956
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: Wochbomb come through my computer in the middle of the workday,

957
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: and there had been so much talk about what Griffin

958
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: had done wrong, the few things he had done right.

959
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: There was a pretty boisterous anti Griffin contingent you know,

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00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: locally here in Milwaukee. From the start, I would say,

961
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: and then of course a lot of folks nationally also

962
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: would Golman to a couple of things. But I really

963
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: did not expect him to just get fired. I mean,

964
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Speaker 1: they're still we're thirty and thirteen at the time, everything else,

965
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Speaker 1: And then of course the news comes that it's probably

966
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Speaker 1: going to be Doc Rivers, maybe it's going to be

967
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: Kenny Atkinson. Then it's for sure, Doc Rivers announced live

968
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: on TNT, then it's not, then it is again. Now

969
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: he's getting forty million dollars. So it has been a rollercoaster.

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00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: I would say the things that have come out about

971
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: how the Griffin tenure was going really make you more

972
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Speaker 1: receptive to another coach, even if it is Doc Rivers

973
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: and the baggage that comes with it. But it's been

974
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: just a wild ride. I mean the first part is just,

975
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Speaker 1: you know, to make a big, high profile coaching change

976
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Speaker 1: when you're second in the East, I think, tied second

977
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: in the in the NBA and record, it's just not

978
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Speaker 1: something you really see ever, especially in the first year

979
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Speaker 1: of a head coach. The honest and e un dame

980
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: of it all makes I think even messier. But I

981
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: think the Bucks probably did need a change. I think,

982
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, if guys were not even listening to the

983
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: defensive play calls and everything, that's just not tenable going

984
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Speaker 1: into a playoffs when you know you have to win,

985
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: you have Giannis and Dame like you cannot waste a season.

986
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Speaker 1: Some would say, are you doing that with Doc Rivers?

987
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not. We can get into that of it all.

988
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: But it's just been wild is the one word summary

989
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Speaker 1: I would use it this week.

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Speaker 3: How did you turn twenty nine? That's a we that

991
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Speaker 3: birthday doesn't count.

992
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: Bro.

993
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: We tell Jackson all the time. You turn twenty three,

994
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: you're twenty three to you're thirty.

995
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: So you'll gladly take that.

996
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 4: Twenty three to you're thirty five, You know what I mean?

997
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: That's all.

998
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: I was thirty in my house for five years, so

999
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Speaker 1: I will gladly be twenty three. That sounds much.

1000
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 4: Better than me.

1001
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So you know you mentioned that there was, you know,

1002
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: an anti agent Griffin contendency in the fan base, and

1003
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Speaker 2: it you know, you're in Wisconsonant in the heart of

1004
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: it all. But I saw it on Twitter that there

1005
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: was a sure like know with some warth Bucks fans

1006
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: on you know, this continuency was for ag This this

1007
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: side wasn't like where were you at during all of that?

1008
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, all on up to it, I was pro. I mean,

1009
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: I really did think there were some good things he did.

1010
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: I thought number one was they were really malleable defensively.

1011
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: One thing I really liked about how he coached is,

1012
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: you know, after the first five games, they tried to

1013
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: use Brook as like in the Raptors aggressive defense and

1014
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez, and it was a disaster and they had

1015
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: to just stop doing that and go back to a

1016
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: more aggressive form of the Mike Budenholzer drop defense. But

1017
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: when that would inevitably not work, like they would play zone,

1018
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: they would switch everything. They would trapp or blitz with

1019
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: Bobby Portis, like you would just see all these different coverages,

1020
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: and that idea I think is good. Like I think

1021
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: Milwaukee in the past has kind of famously not been

1022
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: flexible enough on both ends with how they play. But

1023
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, okay, there's been these tweaks to

1024
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: the general scheme, which is the drop defense, and I

1025
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: think they're getting to it. And really I think through

1026
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: the month of December there were a lot of really

1027
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: positive strides. They want a lot of games in a row.

1028
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: They had a couple of bad losses. I think Christmas

1029
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 1: they lost to the Knicks, but they had just beaten them,

1030
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, two days prior, so those two game sets

1031
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: can just be weird. But then January they just came

1032
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: out flat. And I think that's when kind of the articles,

1033
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: like the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that, you know, some

1034
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: of the best defensive moments of the year, the players

1035
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: were ignoring the play call on defense and just kind

1036
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: of doing what they wanted to do, which that to

1037
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: me is like, Okay, it's you're probably cooked at that

1038
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: point if that's going on, and that's the best moments.

1039
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: A bunch of sources have just reported generally that, like

1040
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: the messaging just wasn't getting through right. Players were not

1041
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: we're not feeling it, we're not receptive, We're not bought

1042
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: in enough. And I think that, plus the defensive struggles

1043
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: kind of is what since firing has turned me. But

1044
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: I did think I thought he could make the strides.

1045
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: I thought Griffin could be a good enough coach, and

1046
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: I frankly just never thought that he would get fired

1047
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: because you end up in a situation where there's so

1048
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: few options. But clearly the people who were out on

1049
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: him saw the red flag Terry Stotts getting leaving before

1050
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: the season, and you know the article with Bobby Ports

1051
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: after the nd season tournament. Clearly those people were onto

1052
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: something and I overlooked those things to too much of

1053
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: a degree.

1054
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: So you know, of course, this is you know, the

1055
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: defense we've seen from the Bucks. The season has not

1056
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: been a championship deep, you know, and of course that

1057
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: happens when you lose one of the best perimeter players

1058
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: in the league with through of course, but you know,

1059
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 2: where are you at? Do you think that this defense

1060
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: has declined because it is a personnel issue or a

1061
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: scheming issue.

1062
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: I think it's both. It was encouraging they defended Cleveland

1063
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: pretty well last night. I mean, the Cavs still scored

1064
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: even without of course, they're without Mobley and Garland for

1065
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: a while now, but I thought over all their defense

1066
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: looked a little better. But I do I think it's both. Like,

1067
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: I think their scheme was still too aggressive. They were

1068
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: going for offensive rebounds and trying to force turnovers. They

1069
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: really weren't good at either thing, but they still they

1070
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: ratcheted back a bit, but probably not enough. I think

1071
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: we're probably going to I mean, who knows, but we're

1072
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: probably going to see the Joe Prunty slash Doc Rivers

1073
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: whenever he's officially hired. It hasn't had and yet as

1074
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: we record, I assume it will on this podcast, just

1075
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: because that's the max entertainment value. But I think they're

1076
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: going to probably keep you, honest, closer to the basket

1077
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: and then just shore up the defensive rebounding they've given

1078
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: up too many offensive rebounds and just play a little

1079
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: more conservative on that end. Basically without Drew, I think

1080
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: you just need to make players hit shots over you,

1081
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: which honestly, I think in the playoffs is kind of

1082
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: where you end up anyway. I mean, good offense beats

1083
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: good defense. But I also think they just do need

1084
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 1: more perimeter defense. This was my most common refrain pro

1085
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: Griffin in terms of like their one two three is

1086
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: Dame Malik Beasley and Chris Middleton. Chris Middleton in twenty

1087
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: twenty four, it was a much different defender than when

1088
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: he was the three and D guy like six years ago.

1089
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: That's bad. That's just really bad. And as good as

1090
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez is as great as the honest is. You know,

1091
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: having no stopper on the perimeter at all or anything

1092
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: close to it is just very hard to overcome no

1093
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: matter how you run your defense and off the bench,

1094
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: they're not bringing ace defensive personnelity. The young players Andre

1095
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: Jackson and Marjon Beauchamp have shown flashes, but I don't

1096
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: think they're like lockdown defenders right now. So we've gotten reporting,

1097
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: like I think they're going to make a trade to

1098
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: find more defense as well to throw in here. But

1099
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: I think the scheme just you know, shoring it up,

1100
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: being less aggressive, making teams just beat you versus you know,

1101
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: getting lost or blowing a rotation and just giving up dunks.

1102
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: I think that will help, at least in the short term,

1103
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: make them be able to just survive on their offense

1104
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: like they did earlier in the season.

1105
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 5: It's tip or bust with this team, Like Giannis feels

1106
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 5: that way to fans for their way, Dame feels that way.

1107
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 4: What do you think they saw in dot that we

1108
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 4: did it that.

1109
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 5: Can get them to the point where they could they're

1110
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 5: a championship winning.

1111
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: Team well sixteen years ago. No, I don't actually fourteen

1112
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: years ago made another finals. So this home had a

1113
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: lot of success when I was in high school. But realistically, though,

1114
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: I think it's it's they tried the first time head coach.

1115
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: They took the big swing Adrian Griffin of like, let's

1116
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: find the guy who can and I'm not quoting anything,

1117
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: but the idea of like, let's find our guy who's

1118
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: going to be the coach for ten years. You know,

1119
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 1: he can grow with us, and he can be here

1120
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: and run this team and all these other things, and

1121
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: they just failed. I mean they swung hard and they

1122
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: missed hard. I mean there's the reporting that Giannis just

1123
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: is not a Nick Nurse guy, and that's why they

1124
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: didn't go with Nick Nurse. And then out of the

1125
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: other options, it was like Kenny Atkinson or Adrian Griffin

1126
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: myself as a not Nick Nurse guy as well. To

1127
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: put it mildly, I'm still okay with the honest's line

1128
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: of thinking, even though Nurse is doing a good job

1129
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: in Philly. But I think they now want to shift

1130
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: course and go we need someone who's proven, like we

1131
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: can't take the risk again. And I think even like

1132
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: a Kenny Atkinson who's an assistant with Golden State right now,

1133
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: and they could have reached out and tried to do

1134
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: that like the Wolves did with Chris Finch a couple

1135
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: of years ago. I think they wanted a true known commodity,

1136
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: someone that there's no question this coach will come in

1137
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: and Giannis and Dame, which are two big time names,

1138
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: are going to listen and are going to be bought

1139
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 1: in and locked in on both ends of the floor. Frankly,

1140
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: if you look around at this point in the year,

1141
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not many other guys besides Doc, there

1142
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: really aren't who are that available and who have been

1143
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: consulting with the Bucks coaching staff, which was like a

1144
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: wild detail that came out of all of this. Like

1145
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: for months he's been like meeting with Adrian Griffin or

1146
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: at least did once. I mean, it's kind of back

1147
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: and forth on how that's been reported or who reached

1148
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 1: out first.

1149
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, we said it was a bit of a dick

1150
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 3: Cheney though, right, Yeah, kind of like he's like, oh,

1151
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 3: are you in need of a new coach? I might

1152
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 3: know someone who could use forty million dollars.

1153
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's the thing. I mean, I don't think

1154
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: it's a snake move personally, because I think everything that's

1155
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: come out, probably Griffin was going to be out the

1156
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: door either way. I think it just made sense. Who knows,

1157
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I think the stars

1158
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: kind of aligned for Doc. He had a bunch of leverage.

1159
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: He made use of it in the contract negotiations base

1160
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 1: on what we've heard, and that's why they just needed

1161
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: like someone who could get give him a good Plan A,

1162
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: which they haven't had. If your Plan B isn't as good,

1163
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean, our Plan A is still damon gianness. So

1164
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: hope that just gets the job done, I think is

1165
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: where they're at now.

1166
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: I think I think it for sure looks like a

1167
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: move where they let the fox into the chicken coop

1168
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: with letting doctors be the consultant. To me, yeah, because

1169
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: if if you listen to you know, the games that

1170
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: he called, you can tell that he still wanted to coach,

1171
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 2: like he used to be so hard on Darwin Haim,

1172
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: like like I.

1173
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: Don't understand these rotations, what is he doing it? Like?

1174
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: And we really heard him criticize any other coach like,

1175
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: you know, he probably wanted that Lakers job. He probably

1176
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: saw that hard that that you know, Ham might be

1177
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: on the chop of black two. So you know, I

1178
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: for sure, you know, thought that that was a big

1179
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: conflict that interested him.

1180
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 3: He was picking the wiggly tooth Tyler right, he was like, well,

1181
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 3: who could I maybe lean on a little harder here?

1182
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: For sure.

1183
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 1: The funniest part is that, you know, if you line

1184
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: up the timelines, if he started consulting with late December,

1185
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: that's the worst games of the year been since he started.

1186
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: So that is kind of funny if you just look

1187
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: at it as like what tips was he giving and

1188
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: how did they work out?

1189
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 4: Here?

1190
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he might he might have sabotized that dude. No telling,

1191
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: no telling with Doc Man, No telling with.

1192
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: That is secured.

1193
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: He secured notorious under the bus thrower. I wouldn't put

1194
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 2: it past him, though, And that's another thing I'm looking

1195
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: forward to because bro, like, like, you know, if there's

1196
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: gonna be a tough postseason loss and he is gonna

1197
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: throw motherfuckers under the bus, like Giannis is gonna be

1198
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: wondering how to fuck it.

1199
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 4: I don't think.

1200
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 5: Damon the folks is gonna deal with it in the

1201
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 5: way they you know I went in the Philly. They

1202
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 5: gonna let him know exactly what Tom it is, you

1203
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 5: feel me? So she ain't gonna end up sweet like

1204
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 5: it did in Philly. If he goes that route, he

1205
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 5: has to know that.

1206
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, He's just got to pick smarter.

1207
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. Is I kind of wonder too,

1208
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: likes is Griffin gonna get further thrown under like after

1209
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: after a bad loss, like oh, we have to undo

1210
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: like we've been had to work on so much. We're

1211
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: building from the ground up, so I can't the.

1212
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 5: President socialized to losing or mediocre like right.

1213
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 3: It's it's like Doc's gonna come in and be like

1214
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,479
Speaker 3: a president that just kind of like, well, I gotta

1215
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 3: deal with the last guy's economy, you know, I mean,

1216
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: what am I supposed to.

1217
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 6: Do for him?

1218
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: And then he can start picking players next year that

1219
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: going to be at fault next and uh he gets

1220
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: an extra built in year there, which is nice for him.

1221
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 5: There's no there's no Ben Simmons in there. There's just

1222
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 5: gonna eat that, you know what I mean, There's not.

1223
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 4: A Ben Simmons on that, you know what I mean?

1224
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 3: No, there's not I need I need the Tyler's Doc

1225
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 3: Rivers impression telling pe Trian Griffin to play Brook Lopez

1226
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 3: higher up, further away from the basket on defense.

1227
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 10: Look, you want to you want him to a textic

1228
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 10: because you don't want to put him in drop COVID.

1229
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 10: He needs not a good mean, not a good rip protector.

1230
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 10: I'm telling you right now, he's overrated as a rep protector.

1231
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 10: Don't put him back there. He probably sanitized that man.

1232
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: Also, you're winning me over to this because he went

1233
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: on the Bill Simmons podcast. It was basically just like

1234
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: only talked about how their offense could be better, which

1235
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: to me is hilarious if it is a tactical move

1236
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: in terms of like I mean, I can't save this

1237
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: defense either, but we could get more out of the offense.

1238
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 3: So let's talk about that.

1239
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 2: Yes, So you know the thing about this high with

1240
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 2: me is you remember in the summer where Yanna said, bro,

1241
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: if y don't put a contender, I mean I'm just

1242
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 2: not resigning. And that was a big deal, right, like

1243
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, NBA Twitter went crazy with that. But in

1244
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: that very same interview, let me see, I gotta quote

1245
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: up here. It was an interview with the New York Times,

1246
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 2: and this is what hopped out to me when everyone

1247
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: was going crazy over what Yiannis said about you know

1248
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: how he'd believe if there was a contender around it.

1249
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: So Milwaukee fired his coach, Mike book Boots Older and

1250
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: hired Adrian Griffin, who had been an assistant coach for

1251
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: the Toronto Raptors. That change Intensavekoupo said, it's part of

1252
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: why he is unsure if he'll sign an extension. Now

1253
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: here's the Jannis quote. You've got to see the dynamics.

1254
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: He said, how the coach is going to be, how

1255
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 2: we're going to be together at the end of the day.

1256
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 2: I feel like all my teammates know and the organization

1257
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: knows that I want to win a championship. As long

1258
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: as we're on the same page with that, and you

1259
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: show me and we go together to win a championship,

1260
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,479
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. The moment I feel like, oh yeah,

1261
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: we're trying to rebuild, he Paul's briefly, before continuing, there

1262
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: will never be hard feelings with the Milwaukee Bucks. I

1263
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: believe that we've had ten unbelievble years and there's no

1264
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: doubt I gave everything for the city of Milwaukee, everything

1265
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: every single night, and when I'm hurt. I'm a Milwaukee Bop.

1266
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 4: I bleed green.

1267
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: I know this. This is my team and it's going

1268
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: to far. It's going to forever be my team. I

1269
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: don't forget people that were there for me and allow

1270
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 2: me to be great and to showcase who I am

1271
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 2: to the world and gave me the platform.

1272
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 4: But we have to win another one.

1273
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 2: That was what hopped out to me, bro, Like he

1274
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: did not seem confident in that Adrian Griffin Higher from

1275
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: the very jump, and I expressed that on Twitter and

1276
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: people are like, well, he's the guy who picked him.

1277
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, you can have buyer's remorse as soon

1278
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 2: as you drive that car off the lot, you know

1279
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, like, it doesn't take you know,

1280
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: a whole you know a lot of time to realize that.

1281
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: And you know that's why you know, I've got my

1282
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 2: questions about the dock higher, but I'm not mad at

1283
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: them cutting ties with Griffin because you don't have to

1284
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: commit to a mistake long term.

1285
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 4: Soon as you realize there's a mistake.

1286
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's They've moved very aggressively since Horse

1287
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,760
Speaker 1: took over, and I think twenty seventeen or twenty sixteen.

1288
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: And one of my favorite things about John Horse as

1289
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: an executive is that willingness to oh, I made a mistake,

1290
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: let's fix it. I mean the year they won the title,

1291
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: their big offseason signing was DJ Augustine to be like

1292
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: the reserve point guard and run pick and roll. It

1293
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: was disastrous, and they traded him at the deadline just

1294
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: a couple months later and got PJ. Tucker, who ends

1295
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: up starting on the title team. Like they they won't

1296
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: sit around and just go like, ah, we'll make it work.

1297
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: Everything else. I mean, they traded Drew Holliday. I mean,

1298
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: obviously you get Dame, that makes everything more palatable, but Drew,

1299
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean, champion all time, Buck like was so crucial

1300
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: to what they what they were and what they became.

1301
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: And I think that's what happened with Griffin too. If

1302
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: the honest quotes are always interesting, one, I think Giannis

1303
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: just lies. And I've said this, but people kind of

1304
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: like Bucks be like, well, like get up and like no,

1305
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't like he just says. He says a lot

1306
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: of things. Gianna says a lot of things. If you

1307
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: read through the long quote about what it was like

1308
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: to lose Adrian Griffin. It starts off with people think

1309
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 1: I have control, I don't make the decisions. I don't

1310
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: want to. It ends with I wish I did have

1311
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: the control, but I don't. It's like, but what do

1312
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: you one? Do you not want it? It's like I

1313
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: do think his role in front office stuff is a

1314
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: little overblown. I think he gives like a yes or

1315
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: no and then like there's then the front office goes

1316
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: from there. I don't think he went in there and

1317
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: said it has to be Adrian Griffin. I think he

1318
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: said not Nick Nurse, I like Adrian Griffin, and they

1319
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: went there from there. I'm not saying nothing rests. I'm

1320
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: giannest with this. Obviously he did have a positive view

1321
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: on Griffin before, but I don't think he is as

1322
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: involved as as some people do. I think like Lebron

1323
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: and what he has done has made it so a

1324
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: lot of people think that's every front office and like,

1325
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't think the joker is in Denver, like we

1326
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: need to get this rookie in the draft this year

1327
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: or whatever else.

1328
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 3: I think there's a v tape.

1329
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 4: I don't think, Yeah, I think he just wants to play.

1330
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 3: That's my job. I want to do my job.

1331
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,959
Speaker 1: I want to show up a little late. I show

1332
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: up and from my horses. But yeah, I think he's

1333
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: certainly involved and they get his input, but I don't

1334
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: think he's making all the moves himself.

1335
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: I was kind of curious about that because I think

1336
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 3: from an outsider's perspective, Janna is certainly like we've certainly

1337
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: connected the breadcrumbs on ag being kind of his. And

1338
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 3: then I just don't believe there's any way a team fire,

1339
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 3: like when they've just resigned the guy when he was

1340
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 3: talking about not being there, if they're not a contender.

1341
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: I don't believe there's any way you fire a head

1342
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 3: coach at thirty and thirteen without a sign off from

1343
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 3: the face.

1344
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: Of your franchise, right for sure.

1345
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: But then I was curious at those quotes today that

1346
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 3: were sort of like, you know, it's not you know,

1347
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 3: I I agree with you. There's a little bit of

1348
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: the like, yeah, you know, I'm just here, Like what

1349
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 3: am I supposed to do? Like I don't want to leave?

1350
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no, no, Like I don't it doesn't matter.

1351
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: I mean I don't, it doesn't matter to me, Like

1352
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 3: what he says at all. But I guess I'm just

1353
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: curious for Ty's perspective on you said you feel like

1354
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 3: his his you know, the sort of h late GM thing.

1355
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: It's like Overbrown a little bit with you, honest, I'm curious,

1356
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 3: like what do you think, Like what level of control

1357
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 3: do you think he wants? If Lebron's on one end

1358
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: of the spectrum and the Jokers on the other end

1359
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 3: of the spectrum, right, Like, where does John see himself

1360
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 3: and how much control is he flexing in these books?

1361
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: It would just be very funny if actually this whole

1362
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: time Joker was super involved and just playing it off.

1363
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: That was what I thought of during the question.

1364
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 3: But that's very possible. I don't think that that's impossible.

1365
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: I thought there would probably be more guys from outside

1366
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: the US on the roster. There's a few, but I

1367
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: think there'd be more more can cars out there.

1368
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 3: But the NASA's uh yeah, the Nastasio.

1369
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: At all and Axpo plays for the Wisconsin Herd again.

1370
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: Actually just last night became the Herd all time leader

1371
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: in games played. So there are Atos all over the

1372
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: place in the bucks org.

1373
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 4: The NASA is on the squad, you know. That's yeah, yeah, yeah.

1374
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a source of joy for all. I think

1375
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: Bucks fans have just accepted, like the mean I don't

1376
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: know if you guys saw he asked for mailbag questions

1377
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: for a pod with Dame like an hour after the

1378
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: news broke about Griffin, which is just the funniest thing

1379
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: of all time. To his Instagram group on he's just like,

1380
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: I have a mailbag who wants to know anything? And

1381
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Ta is like a true podcaster,

1382
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: honestly salute, like, hey, this is great content I feel

1383
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: bad for our team is tremendous content.

1384
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: He's quickly turning into one of my favorite players. Yeah,

1385
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 2: he's so unseerious dude, like that whole Daytime celebration when he.

1386
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 4: Yeah everything wrong.

1387
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 2: You know someone said someone said he was doing the

1388
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: dray Time celebration.

1389
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that dude.

1390
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: You just have to accept now, like he's there. He's

1391
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: like there for moral support essentially, and he gets an

1392
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: energy and then he brings those things to your honest's role.

1393
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: I think it's I think he gives his input and

1394
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: I would imagine that Horace the Bucks front off his

1395
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: brain trust ownership whatever. Probably it's like okay, anyone honest

1396
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: is okay with that's who we're gonna pick from. We're

1397
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: not going to hire someone or trade for someone who

1398
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: honest is like actively against Like I think he always

1399
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: wanted to play with Dame, And I think this is

1400
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: kind of the conflicting thing of of Gannest and really

1401
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: any player you know, Giannis has never been one who

1402
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: has ever come out that he wanted a player traded,

1403
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: that he wanted to get rid of someone. He's wanted

1404
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: to play with other guys, But I don't think it's

1405
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: ever been a situation like we need to get this

1406
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: guy off the team. I think there he gives his

1407
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: sign off on coaching candidates and players, like if we

1408
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: can get them and it makes sense for the team,

1409
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: go do it, and then they go from there. I

1410
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: certainly think they're not making a major move without running

1411
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: it past him. I think they're not opening up that

1412
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: thinastis roster spot without running it past him either. But

1413
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: I think that's that's kind of his role. And I

1414
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: will say, maybe I'm swung by this, but I think

1415
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: Horst also does a good job of trying to make

1416
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 1: that very clear. Like he did a press conference before

1417
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: the game last night and he said, I didn't consult

1418
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: any players. I went and talked to them after the move.

1419
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: Do I think that's bs? Yeah, Like I think I

1420
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: think Giannis had to sign off on some level, even

1421
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: if it was a back channel type deal. But I

1422
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: think that's a good thing for the ORG to do

1423
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: to Really, we're the bad guy. Yiannis didn't get anyone traded,

1424
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: Giannis didn't get anyone fired. We get his put but

1425
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: we didn't ask him about this. We just did it

1426
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: and we broke the news. Again. I don't think that's

1427
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: one hundred percent true, but I think that's the right

1428
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: way to go about it, to not then frame this

1429
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: and have this like the GM criticism. It's probably gonna

1430
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: come anyway, right, people are mad about everything, but they

1431
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 1: try and go about it that way.

1432
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: At least, what are your your realistic expectations? How how

1433
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: in your mind do you see this season going now

1434
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: with this coaching change?

1435
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean, I still think they have a

1436
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: pretty good shot to win it all. I mean I

1437
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: really do. Obviously you're not going to go into many

1438
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: series thinking that they have the supreme coach. But also

1439
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: the Celtics have been everyone's favorite for two years. Or

1440
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: more more than that. And I don't know how many

1441
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: Joe Mizulastans are out there either. I think it's just

1442
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, have the pot do

1443
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: we you?

1444
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, show yourself?

1445
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: How do you feel about the town?

1446
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: It is a great movie.

1447
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: The Celtics Games.

1448
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 3: I love hey, and you know that is what. Are

1449
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 3: the Celtics gonna hang a banner on that when they

1450
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 3: get bounced this year, they're going to say we had

1451
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: the best record in the regular season.

1452
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 4: The bumps probably bounce them too, but.

1453
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: Games Celtics, I mean, that's the goal. I think you

1454
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: have to be at least a little confident even with

1455
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,479
Speaker 1: how it's and the other thing. It's just been a mess,

1456
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: Like outside of just who is the coach, the process

1457
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: to get here has been such a mess, and now

1458
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: you're down even more time. When you already acquired Dame

1459
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: what two three weeks before training camp, they were already

1460
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: on a tight, congested schedule, and I think that's been

1461
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: some of the bumps in the road. With Damon Giannis

1462
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: and their chemistry and everything, which was always got two

1463
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: guys who are that ball dominant playing together, I mean

1464
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: it's going to be an adjustment for all and everyone

1465
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: else on the team, But those are the two that

1466
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: are really important. But also, like when you checked ball

1467
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: in a playoff series, are there two players on any

1468
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: team in the East who are better than either one

1469
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: of those guys? Like I think you could probably make

1470
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: the case the Bucks will have the best two players

1471
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: in any series, or at least at least it's a combo,

1472
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: and I think that is a very strong position. I

1473
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: think if they balanced the roster, and that's the other

1474
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: thing about the roster. They built it for Drew and

1475
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: you can see that they got all offensive role players

1476
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: because that was their issue in the playoffs, they couldn't

1477
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: score enough in the half court. Then you flip the

1478
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: point guards and it's like, okay, we have all offense.

1479
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: Now we don't need as much. Like we got Damian

1480
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: Giannis and Chris that's going to cover almost everything. So

1481
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: they just need to balance the roster, get a little

1482
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: more depth in there, I think. But I still feel

1483
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: relatively good about their chances in any series. It's the

1484
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: Bucks way that nothing will be easy. They didn't lead

1485
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: after forty eight minutes in any series when they won

1486
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: the championship, despite sweeping the Heat, which almost as impossible.

1487
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,400
Speaker 1: But I like their chances still and I don't think

1488
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: it'll be I don't think that there's any team I

1489
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: think is clearly better than them, even if Boston is awesome.

1490
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: I have my questions about them in the playoffs still.

1491
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 4: Christ.

1492
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: Show they didn't lead a series after forty eight minutes.

1493
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: They went to overtime in Game one of the Heat

1494
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: and then wet them and then they lost game one

1495
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 1: in every other series that year.

1496
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

1497
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the other thing. They also never went

1498
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: three to one in that series, so they can do

1499
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: it without Doc's weakness. That's my reason for optimism. They

1500
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: won a title without ever having a three to one lead,

1501
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: so that's they're indestructible. They know the coast.

1502
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:23,959
Speaker 3: Well, what a world. Aad coach is good whether y'all

1503
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: win or lose.

1504
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 5: Bro how Hey, we need he needs to write a book,

1505
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 5: you know, a self help book, and I'll definitely read

1506
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 5: that motherfucker for sure.

1507
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 3: Forty million to have everyone making the joke, You've just

1508
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 3: made this fucking nuts to me. My last question is

1509
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 3: you know you you say you're your your late twenties.

1510
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 3: You've picked a great time historically to be a Bucks fan. Yeah,

1511
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 3: that a member of the of the media, right, can

1512
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 3: you just sum up like we make the jokes about

1513
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 3: the NASAs or whatever, But obviously if you're a fan

1514
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 3: of like twenty five teams in the NBA, you'd cut

1515
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 3: your pinky off to get Yannis. So having a fun

1516
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 3: loving brother on the team is like, you know, the

1517
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 3: easiest price to pay. Can you just put into words

1518
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 3: what Yannie's impact in Wisconsin, in Milwaukee, to you, to

1519
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 3: everyone has been, because obviously he's elevated the Bucks to

1520
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 3: one of the teams that everyone's talking about that truly

1521
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 3: matters when you know, I mean realistically, it just obviously

1522
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 3: was not who they were as a franchise for most

1523
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 3: of their history.

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01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a couple of quick things I could

1525
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: I feel like answer that with. I mean, one game

1526
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: six when they won the finals the Deer District, I

1527
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: think they had like how many thousand people there? I mean,

1528
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 1: like a ridiculous amount of people outdoors to watch the game.

1529
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 1: And I asked an old beat writer of the Bucks,

1530
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: Matt Velaskiez, do you think there were more Bucks fans

1531
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: in that place watching that game or like total Bucks

1532
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: fans in the state in like ten years before that

1533
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: or five years, and he had to actually think, like,

1534
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: it's probably pretty close like it they were. They were

1535
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 1: a dying fan base Wisconsin. Of course the Packers. Everyone

1536
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: who knows about Wisconsin knows about the Packers, the only

1537
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: reason anyone knows about Cream Bay anywhere. And then, even

1538
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: though they haven't won anything in forever, like the Brewers,

1539
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: people liked more generally. The Bucks had been so obscure,

1540
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: which is saccause they had a great history. I mean,

1541
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: everyone loves Marcus Johnson now, and those eighties Bucks teams

1542
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,839
Speaker 1: are really forgotten about. They just couldn't get over the humps.

1543
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: It was Doctor j and Larry Bird. But there were

1544
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,480
Speaker 1: great teams in the eighties. Of course, kareem in the seventies,

1545
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: but they had been back.

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01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 3: Michael read books.

1547
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know what I mean.

1548
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 3: We love him.

1549
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: We love him forever. He puts out our statements on

1550
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: the team now, which is great.

1551
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:36,880
Speaker 4: I respect Michael rid.

1552
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 5: I love him as a player too, but as the

1553
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 5: number one guy on your team.

1554
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, good, gotta rough, you know what I mean.

1555
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: I hope Michael Red doesn't listen. I really want them

1556
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: on my podcast don't listen, but they probably would have moved.

1557
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was pretty close that they

1558
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: would when the new owners bought the team when the

1559
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: Honest was still there, there's a chance that, I mean,

1560
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: the old owner, Herd Cole, really really wanted to keep them,

1561
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: and that was in the deal, but like the valuation

1562
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: of the franchise and everything was way different because of

1563
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: be honest. So there's a factor there. And of course

1564
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,479
Speaker 1: their position in the NBA now and within Wisconsin sports

1565
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: is just vastly different. And I think there are probably

1566
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 1: a few other players who would have stuck around this long.

1567
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: I think Wisconsin knows how lucky they are, and I

1568
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: think he feels that, I really do. I mean, there's

1569
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the state, especially in Milwaukee.

1570
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,839
Speaker 1: Almost everyone I would say he's like out and about

1571
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: has a story of seeing Giannis and every time they're like,

1572
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: I like half waved at him when he walked past,

1573
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 1: but didn't want to bother him. And it's like the

1574
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: kind of uniquely thing with a market like Milwaukee, where

1575
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: I think he really appreciates that he can live his

1576
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: life here. I mean, obviously he's popular, but like I

1577
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 1: know someone who like their kid was in swim school

1578
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: with Giannest's kid, and the honest would like show up

1579
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: and wait to pick up the kid and this kind

1580
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: of stuff, like he can live a more normal life.

1581
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: I think that he really appreciates in return. But yeah,

1582
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks, he brought them to places they

1583
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 1: hadn't been in the literally fifty years, and they could

1584
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: have never been again. Milwaukee, Wisconsin getting two of the

1585
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: best x whatever players in NBA history is just beyond

1586
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: unlikely given the way we all know the NBA works,

1587
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: the fact that he's played more than a decade here,

1588
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 1: it looks like he may play out his career. Like

1589
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 1: you read the quote, Tyler, he needs to be on

1590
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: a contender. I think that's fair. I think that's the

1591
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: NBA economy. They may lose him eventually, but what he's

1592
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: already done and what he's rebuilt the city as the

1593
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: new Arena, the Deer District, everything with it. He's a

1594
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: part owner of the Brewers. They give away a Ghana's

1595
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: jersey every year too. It's really like you can't calculate.

1596
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: And that's why I never get too low on Ganas,

1597
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: too upset when he's taken threes or any of this

1598
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: stuff or these news reports come out, because he's already

1599
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: done so much more than I think almost any NBA

1600
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: star has done for any other city individually. And I

1601
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: hope people remember that in Milwaukee and just don't take

1602
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: that for granted. I'm not trying to start a competition

1603
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: here with other guys, but I think it's it's up there.

1604
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 3: That's I don't even know who else you'd put in

1605
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 3: the same like category is if it's you know, like

1606
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,719
Speaker 3: you said, you read his biography, you read the profiles

1607
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 3: of him. It's like you said, like everyone's got a story,

1608
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 3: like a personal stary, and he literally kept the franchise

1609
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 3: there like.

1610
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: And made them a thing, like they were a joke

1611
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: for most of all of our you know, NBA real

1612
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: watching existences.

1613
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 2: So like, I remember that one clip that someone in

1614
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: Milwaukee posted when they caught Gianni's coming out of workout,

1615
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 2: had a nice little interaction with him, and someone zoomed

1616
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 2: in on his water bottle and he had written on

1617
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,520
Speaker 2: a shop yar on it when MVP win a championship,

1618
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: like just a different dude.

1619
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: Man.

1620
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 5: I'd never thought of the benefit of being able to

1621
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 5: be a human because Jannis in La is not a

1622
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 5: human Giannice in New York maybe, but probably not. You

1623
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 5: know what I mean, There's very few cities where a

1624
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 5: Janis could be. I can pick his kid up from

1625
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 5: swim practice, you know what I mean. I mean that's

1626
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 5: a huge benefit for somebody like him who doesn't seem

1627
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 5: like he wants to be a labron as far as

1628
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 5: like you know, starred him and.

1629
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: All that he's got, like a production company now he's

1630
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: done like some of his own biographies and like his

1631
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:56,799
Speaker 1: brothers and him do business.

1632
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 3: But like there was Moi's solid, you know what I mean?

1633
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And he likes to work with his family.

1634
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: He all wants it to be all involved like that.

1635
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: There was a clip a TMZ was interviewing him and

1636
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: I think his now wife in La like before the

1637
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: last contract, and you could tell he was so bothered

1638
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: by it. And I think a lot of us here

1639
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we have a pretty good shot. I

1640
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: think if we murmain good just because like it doesn't

1641
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: happen here, like it's it's not that level of And

1642
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: Giannest really did not like that. I think, you know,

1643
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: he's famous, he enjoys being famous. He has his brand

1644
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: deals he goes to grease all this stuff, but he

1645
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: also wants to be low key and just like be

1646
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: at home with his family. And I think ssconsin that's

1647
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: a good people have lacked before. But it's like, it's

1648
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: a good good advertisement before Wisconsin. If you're not looking

1649
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: to do everything in the world, but just eat some

1650
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: good food, drink some good beers, go home to your family.

1651
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: It's a good place to live. And I think you're

1652
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: honest realized. I don't know if he drinks beer, but

1653
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,480
Speaker 1: otherwise I think Giannis realizes that stuff.

1654
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 5: As a wife guy, you know what I mean, He's

1655
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 5: like a wife guy. I think that's the hell of

1656
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 5: a sales pitch, you know.

1657
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,480
Speaker 3: The yeah, is Wisconsin the official state of the White

1658
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 3: It's a conversation for another pot.

1659
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 7: The jones mightey to pull up. Chill out, chill out,

1660
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 7: chill out. I'm trying to pull up, all right. Thank you,

1661
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for hopping on. Like I said,

1662
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 7: you can catch ties Bucks coverage on the Eurostep podcast.

1663
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: Follow him on Twitter as well. But thank you so

1664
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: much for making the time and hopping on. And we

1665
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 3: wish you some sanity over the next couple of weeks. Brother.

1666
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm watching the first dot game like a hawk. Thank

1667
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: you guys for having me. I hope coming soon.

1668
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 3: Our thanks to Team Winders for hopping on great getting

1669
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 3: a Bucks fans perspective. We will be back on Saturday

1670
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 3: with our NFC and AFC Championship preview as well as

1671
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: an interview with Shawn reed Uh to talk about all

1672
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: of the big Raiders news.

1673
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 4: See y'all, then I I I

1674
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Speaker 5: The Volume