1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory. 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Jim Hayes, alongside Lance Lynn, Matt Holliday, Kyle Gibson had 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: other business to attend to, but with us today Cardinal 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: starting pitcher Matthew Libertore and I think it's a real treat. 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: Hello Matthew. How are you? 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: I'm doing well? 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 3: Thank you guys for having me on. 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 4: Hey you can say Happy New Year. You haven't talked 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 4: to him till today, so that's fine. 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Happy New Year, Happy New Year. 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 3: All right. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: So, yeah, it was great last year eight and twelve 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: as a starter four point twenty one era. Your first 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: full year as a starter, you had twenty nine starts. 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: There were some ups and downs, this happens every season. 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: A little issue with VLO that you said wasn't necessarily physical, 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: it was mechanical. So my first question, and I think 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: Lance would back this up that it's a brilliant one. 19 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: What is your takeaway from your first full season starting games? 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, last year did a lot of learning, probably more 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 5: than I ever had in my career before. I think 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 5: one of the biggest things. 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: From me was adding on a few extra pounds just. 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 5: To give myself some more durability, you know, coming out 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 5: of that relief roll in twenty four having thrown like 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 5: eighty six eighty seven innings and then jumping all the 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 5: way up to one hundred and fifty two the following year, 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 5: I just felt like I wanted to add a little 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: more durability to my body, and so I've done that 30 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 5: this offseason, and then just making sure that my mechanics 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 5: are dialed. 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: In and know. 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 5: What kind of things I can do to get myself 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 5: back into a good spot if I were to fall 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 5: out a sink again, because I don't. I think it 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 5: would be foolish to think that that will never happen again, 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 5: or that I'll never feel that way again. So really 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 5: just creating some systems and some strategies to help me 39 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 5: better deal with it the next time I face it. 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: We've talked about this earlier this year. Everyone talks about, Hey, 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: what you saw from Libby's first year starting compared to this, 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: and that people don't understand, like you can start all 43 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 4: through the minor leagues. What was the difference from like hey, 44 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 4: in the minor leagues to the big league day in 45 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 4: and day out rotation compared to like that physical grind, 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 4: mental grind. You can do all the what your probably 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: most starts you ever had in the minor leagues was 48 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 4: twenty five to twenty seven in a season. But it's 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: still different. Even though you know you're only gonna have 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: thirty to thirty three if you do a full year, 51 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 4: it's still a different type of grind. Can you explain 52 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: a little bit of the things that you learn that 53 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 4: you can make it even better in year two of 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: fully doing it? 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think the best way I could 56 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 5: describe the difference is, you know, I got to start 57 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 5: the future game when I was in the minor leagues, 58 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 5: and I feel like every start in the big leagues 59 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 5: was similar to that feeling up that start, which is 60 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 5: one start that whole year as a triple A player, 61 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 5: And so you know, there's four thousand fans in the 62 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 5: stadium every night, You're playing meaningful games every night against 63 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 5: the absolute best competition in the entire world. So the 64 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 5: stakes are definitely heightened, the expectations are heightened, and uh, 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 5: it's a lot more stressful on the body and on 66 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 5: the mind than throwing them minor league games, for sure. Uh. 67 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 5: You know, I think I've put a lot of time 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 5: and effort into the mental side of the game this 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 5: aw season. Uh, you know, I have a mental skills 70 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 5: coach that I work with. We're extremely organized. Uh, trying 71 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 5: to do as much visualization as possible. Really, just trying 72 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: to put myself mentally in those positions before I ever 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 5: have to be in them, so that when I when 74 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 5: I do face those circumstances, you know, it doesn't feel 75 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 5: like it's the first time when it's taken me by surprise. 76 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 5: You know, I want to step on that nound the 77 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 5: first game of the year and feel like it's the thousands. 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 5: It's the thousandth time that I'm throwing that game already. 79 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 5: So there've been a big emphasis on the mental side 80 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 5: of things as well as the physical and mechanical side 81 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 5: of things. 82 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: Also some changes for the Cardinals starting rotation. Sonny Gray 83 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: traded away that bringing dustin May now you're a guy 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: though with the years you've been at it, you were 85 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: in the bullpen before you became a starter. Uh, is 86 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: there more of a leadership role for you? Do you think? 87 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: I know, you guys got great coaches. You know, Dusty 88 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: is a great pitching coach, But does that kind of 89 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: kind of add to what's put on your plate to 90 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: be sort of a leader, because probably gonna be. And 91 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: there's other veterans in the mix too, but there's gonna 92 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: be some young guys in there. 93 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's definitely gonna be the youngest clubhouse I've ever 94 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 5: been a part of. You know, we don't have anybody 95 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 5: like lyonce who has been around and done this for 96 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 5: a very long time, has so much knowledge and wisdom 97 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 5: and you know, has really just seen all the different 98 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 5: sides of this game. Uh. You know, Fortunately for me 99 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 5: in my short career so far, I feel like I've 100 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 5: I've had a lot of experience with different things, and 101 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 5: I've gone through a lot of different things which I 102 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 5: think can provide some value for or some guys that 103 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: might go through something similar. So, you know, if I'm 104 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 5: able to help in any way, I'd obviously love to 105 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 5: step into that role. I'm by no means am I 106 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 5: going to call myself a bit or say that, you know, 107 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 5: I should be the leader of the clubhouse. 108 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 109 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 5: I want everybody as a group to be better than 110 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 5: they were yesterday, and so if there's a role that 111 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 5: I can step into that helps facilitate that. 112 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: Somewhat you know, I'm all for it. No, that's awesome. 113 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 4: I mean you're looking at what Jim as you know, 114 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 4: you're looking at a spot where you've got dm A 115 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: coming in who's obviously known as being a great guy. 116 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 4: You got a good group of young guys that you've 117 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 4: come up with or that you've been able to be 118 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: a part of them coming up to the big leagues 119 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 4: with what are you looking forward to as being a 120 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: part of a deep staff this year but also a 121 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 4: staff that's all trying to truly establish themselves of every 122 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: day the ability to make starts every five days and 123 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 4: being part of that. Have you talked to Dusty a 124 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: little bit about, Hey, this is what I experienced last year, 125 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 4: this is what I'm going to you know, hoping to 126 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: improve on this year, and then how that can help 127 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 4: the guys around you, whether it's McGreevy or whether it's 128 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: Leahy going to transfer, you know, maybe in to get 129 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 4: some starts this year. So you're kind of a guy 130 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 4: who's done it all so far in a short period 131 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 4: of time. You got the short end of the stick 132 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 4: at times too, kind of like Layy did. So I 133 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: think there's a you know, and it even Polante's dealt 134 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 4: with some of the same things you've dealt with too, 135 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 4: So you guys have all I guess McGreevy has too, 136 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: if you start looking at the way everybody's been bounced 137 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: around and done stuff. So you guys got a group 138 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 4: of people that want to prove that you belong in 139 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 4: rotations and that everyone knows you. 140 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 3: Guys have that ability. 141 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 4: How are you guys going to kind of bond together 142 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: here to make sure everybody is going in the same direction. So, hey, 143 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 4: we belong here and we can we can help carrying 144 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: his staff as this group. 145 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, I think we've got 146 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 5: a bunch of guys that do believe in themselves and 147 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 5: do believe that they are bigly starting the church, which 148 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 5: I think is a great place to start from. I 149 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 5: think having a group of relatively younger guys, you know, 150 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 5: DestinE maybe maybe a year or two older than some 151 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 5: of us, but having a group of relatively younger guys, 152 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be good because they bring a 153 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: certain hunger, you know. Besides Dustin, I wouldn't say that 154 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: anybody in our our rotation has been doing this for 155 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 5: a very long time, and so you have a lot 156 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 5: of guys that are really looking to establish themselves and 157 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 5: make a name for themselves and really define what their 158 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 5: role is in that rotation, including myself, and I think 159 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 5: that that can be a really fun place to work 160 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 5: from and grow from because there's competition amongst us, and 161 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 5: not that we're competing against each other, but you know, 162 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 5: we're all pushing each other to be the best version 163 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 5: of ourselves possible, and I think that that's a really 164 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 5: good breeding ground for growth and development. 165 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: I think we brought this up last week on the 166 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: show Lance. I'm pretty sure on the last show we did. 167 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: But opening day Starter, I think it means a lot 168 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: to fans. I don't know if it means a lot 169 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: to younger pictures, but your name was drawn out maybe 170 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: May does. 171 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: It means a lot of every starting picture Jim? 172 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: So does it matter to you, if be honest with us, 173 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: do you want to be the Cardinals opening day Starter? 174 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a fair question. 175 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie on it and make something 176 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 5: I've thought about since the season ended. You know, whether 177 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 5: that that honor is given to me or not is 178 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 5: not one hundred percent in my control. But I'd be 179 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 5: lying if I'm sad if I said that, I'm not 180 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 5: doing everything in my power to force their hand on that. 181 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Jim, you don't want you don't want any 182 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: other answer to be. 183 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: Said than that right there. 184 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 4: That tells you what kind of competitor Libby is, but 185 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: also what he believes his abilities are. He believes that 186 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: he's an ace and he has a stuff and we've saw, 187 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: as he said, we saw times of that last year 188 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: when he was able to do it. But that's the 189 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 4: growing process is how can we sustain it for thirty 190 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 4: plus starts throughout a year and he's doing the things 191 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: that he needs to do mentally, My question would be 192 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 4: going forward physically, when you're talking about pitch usage and stuff, 193 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: is that Is there anything that was glaring that you 194 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: and the industry and the pitching staff coaches have talked 195 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 4: about this offseason that might be able to make maybe 196 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: things uptick. Maybe a righty or a lefty maybe help 197 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 4: you get through games a little easier. Is there anything 198 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 4: that's kind of stuck out that might be a thing 199 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: going into spring training? 200 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 201 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 5: I mean, I know my slaughter is going to be 202 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 5: my best wipeout pitch against right handed hitter is and 203 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 5: I'll try and get into this without giving away too 204 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 5: many secrets in case any competition is watching. 205 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: But good idea. I like that I that a little 206 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: on the second half. 207 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 5: It turned into a kind of a blended cutter for me, 208 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: and I lost a lot of swing and miss because 209 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 5: of that. So really making sure that I'm homed in 210 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 5: on that shape and what that feels like coming out 211 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 5: of my hand to start the year, I think is 212 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 5: going to be very beneficial for me. 213 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: And then there is. 214 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 5: A potential extra pitch in the works now that I 215 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 5: think could help me quite a bit against right handed hitters. 216 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: I'll break it out in spring this year, but I've 217 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 5: been throning bullpens this offseason so far, and I think 218 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 5: that it could it could really be a weapon for me. 219 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't give a scouting report on that, but that's 220 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: good news that you've expanded the repertoire. 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Number goals, 247 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: and if they are could you share them with us? 248 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 5: Dude, I think the way I look at goal setting 249 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: is maybe a little different how other people do. I 250 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 5: wouldn't say that I choose numbers to look at by 251 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 5: the end of the season. 252 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: I think that can be somewhat missing. At times. 253 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 5: I try and judge my outings based off of what 254 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 5: we call on execution journal, And so you know, every pitch, 255 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 5: the only thing that you have the ability to control 256 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 5: is deciding what to throw in your commitment to throwing it, 257 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 5: and then your ability to execute on that commitment. 258 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 3: And so I'll go. 259 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: Back through every outing after and do this journal. 260 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 5: Where I watch each pitch and I think about what 261 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: I wanted to do with that pitch, where I wanted 262 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 5: to throw it, what the plan was, and did I 263 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 5: execute or did I not? And so you know, if 264 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 5: I can maintain above a seventy percent execution rate outing 265 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 5: after outing, I'm usually in a pretty good spot. And 266 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 5: we will track and one on one counts two I 267 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 5: started tracking two strike kill counts a little bit last year, 268 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 5: but that's how i'd judge it. And so I'd say 269 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 5: I have a threashold that I would to stay abolved 270 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 5: throughout the course of the season. And I think that 271 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 5: if I do that, the numbers will take care of themselves. 272 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: Now, that's a good way to do it. Back when 273 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 4: I was coming up, Jim, you're asking him, is it 274 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: what's your numbers? I want to make thirty three starts, 275 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 4: I want to throw two hundred innings, and I want 276 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 4: to win fifteen games. Right, those were kind of the 277 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 4: ideas of the old days when you came up. But 278 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 4: the way your process oriented, which I don't think fans 279 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 4: understand some of it, some of them do, like old fans. 280 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 4: If you do what you're talking about right now, you're 281 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: going to look up at the end of the year, 282 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: you're going to be above five hundred pitcher with ten 283 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: plus wins, with you know, your one hundred and eighty 284 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: plus innings and your thirty plus starts. Because it's processed 285 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: day to day. You're a very process oriented person. Is 286 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 4: there anything that you've done to kind of I see 287 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: that you've you've added some things, right, You've added a 288 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: layer of it post start and all that too, which 289 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: is great for you because I feel like sometimes you 290 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 4: were a throat over you would go throw through things 291 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: instead of maybe using these abilities to think through things 292 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: so you don't have to throw as much to feel it. 293 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 4: I think you've gotten to the point now I'm hoping 294 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: or while we're talking, right, it's like, Okay, I know 295 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: what I struggled with my last start. Does that make 296 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 4: sense because I went through my postgame, my check my 297 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: checklist or whatever. Now is it, Hey, I can go 298 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 4: concentrate on these throws and I don't have to overthrow 299 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 4: to get to where I need to do. So hopefully 300 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 4: as the season goes on this year, it goes into, hey, 301 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: we don't have the dip, right, that's the big thing. 302 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: We don't want to worry about the dip, so we 303 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: can kind of slowly here and then we just keep 304 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: kind of. 305 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: Slowly going up. 306 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 4: Is that your hope that going into this season with 307 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: those processes that you've developed over the last year. 308 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. 309 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 5: I mean that in essence is the ultimate goal. You know, 310 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 5: I've always been a very hard. 311 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: Worker, and I've always been a big thinker. 312 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 5: And I've always been process oriented, but I've never been 313 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 5: as organized as I am now, So I think a 314 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 5: lot of times when things didn't go my way, I 315 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: always thought that I could outwork those problems. And while 316 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 5: that might work in high school and you're on a 317 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 5: seven day routine or in the minor leagues when you're 318 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: pitching once maybe twice a week, you can get away 319 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 5: with a lot of that stuff. But as we talked 320 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 5: about earlier, there's a different stress making them start every 321 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 5: five or six days in the big leagues in front 322 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: of forty thousand fans against the best hitters on the planet. 323 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 5: So you know, the goal of all my organization and 324 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 5: the filters that I put myself through after these outings 325 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 5: is to help me narrow down and really focus in 326 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 5: on the things that do need to be worked on, 327 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 5: so that I'm not spinning my tires working on things 328 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: that I'm already doing a really good job at and 329 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 5: now I'm putting myself behind the eight ball because i 330 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 5: have to play catch up, if that makes sense. 331 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: So, Libby, I want to thank you not only for 332 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: coming on but also showing us a different side of 333 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: Lance Lynn. Now I've known Lance for a long time. 334 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: His approach in terms of media, Gruff on this show 335 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: kind of kind of a wise guy, right, But with you, 336 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: I this is coach Lance Linn Like, it's a different 337 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: softer lanceln. So my question is what was Lance like 338 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse working with the younger guys, because this, 339 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: for me is a real eye opener. 340 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think what you're seeing is what you got 341 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: in the clubhouse. 342 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 5: You know, I don't want to give too much way, 343 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 5: but I think that you know, Lance is a big 344 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 5: teddy bear and when he pitches, he's the most intimidating 345 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 5: dude on the planet. I would never step in front 346 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 5: of him. But Lance one of my favorite people to 347 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: go talk to. Him and Kyle Gibson. I think we're 348 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 5: both tremendous human beings and always wanting to talk and 349 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: give advice and talk. 350 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: About their experiences and share. 351 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 5: What they know in an effort to try and help us. 352 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 5: And you know, I called Lance before the start of 353 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 5: the season last year when I got put into the rotation. 354 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 5: You know, I hadn't really done much scouting work in 355 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 5: my career before, and when I did, it did not 356 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 5: work very well for me. So we spent like an 357 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 5: hour and a half on the phone before my first 358 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 5: started the season, Latch, You're just figuring out how I 359 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 5: can look at hitters and how I can make all 360 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 5: the numbers make sense for me, and how they can 361 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 5: tell a story about who I'm facing and what that 362 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 5: means to me, and how what. 363 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: I should throw based off of those things. 364 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 365 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 5: And that was one of the most valuable conversations I 366 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 5: had the entire season, and that happened before I threw 367 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 5: the first pitch of the year. 368 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: We think he called you a teddy bear. 369 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 4: Teddy bear, that's fine when your your teammates are your brothers, man, 370 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: and that's you know. And then there's times when, well, 371 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 4: as we know, Libby did a better job at being 372 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 4: able to get that out of me than save up 373 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: Polante of the world. And we loved Dre as much 374 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: as you know anyone can love Dre. But Dre likes 375 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 4: to poke the bear, and you'll get the bear Libby liked. 376 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 4: Libby had the ability to come to me and we're 377 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: gonna get the We'll get the teddy side of the bear, 378 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: not the not the grizzly. And that's where Palante would 379 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: get the grizzly more more because he kind of asked 380 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 4: for it, but Blonte likes that's what he wants. So 381 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: But and you know every edge, Jim as you know, 382 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: every guy on your team, everybody talks a different language. 383 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: And I told Libby this last year, and I think 384 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 4: I helped him talk to Dusty and Dusty's language at times. 385 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 4: Because every coach, every player has their way of processing 386 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: things and the things that they think do things the 387 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: right way. You have to find your way, and then 388 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 4: you have to be able to understand other people's ways 389 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 4: and then be able to explain that. And that's the 390 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 4: fun part of pitching, and the fun part of competing 391 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: is figuring out what makes guys pick, how they process things, 392 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 4: what they think they're good at, how to stick with 393 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: what they're good at, and also how to always improve 394 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 4: with a little bit of pieces that you can day 395 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 4: in and day out, like Libby is doing. And that's 396 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: the beauty of it. And that's why you know, we've 397 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 4: talked so highly of him here, Kyle and I have 398 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: because we've seen the process right when when Libby was 399 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 4: in the bullpen, he figured out why he was a 400 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: good reliever, but he was always picking brains on. Okay, 401 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: how can I translate this into starting, what's my process 402 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 4: to do it when I have to do it one 403 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: out of every five days, over and over again, and 404 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: how can I do those things? And he was doing 405 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 4: this research while he was getting people out in the bullpen. 406 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: And that's the thing that I loved about him. He 407 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: always knew, hey, I have the starter stuff. I know 408 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 4: my job right now is to get really or get 409 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 4: people out in the bullpen. But I'm going to be 410 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 4: a starter because I have that ability, So why not 411 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 4: learn as I'm doing both? And that was one thing 412 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 4: that I really enjoyed being his teammate and watching him 413 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: go through those processes. And I was able to do 414 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: it as a young kid myself starting in the bullpen, 415 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 4: so I had a little bit of background in that, 416 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 4: so it made it fun to, you know, kind of 417 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 4: see and coach people through that. 418 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: And I've seen from litterary like he's always been like 419 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: a mature guy, even when he was a younger player 420 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: when he first came up. He had an aura of 421 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: maturity about him. But I wonder, so last year was 422 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: a big year for you, your first time as a 423 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: full time starting pitcher. You learned that and now it's 424 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: a different team. It's a younger team, part of a reset, 425 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: and they're looking at you as front of the rotation guy. 426 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: How do you look at this season? For you going 427 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: into it and doesn't feel any any different than maybe 428 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: going into last season. 429 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, that's that's a way that 430 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 5: I want to carry and then I look forward to carrying, 431 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 5: you know, growing up, that's that's everything that I dreamed of. 432 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 5: So you know, I'm very excited for this year. And 433 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 5: as far as the group that we have, you know, 434 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 5: why not us? You know, you saw the dbacs fude 435 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 5: a few years ago or they had a super young group, 436 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 5: and you know, the beautiful thing about baseball is anybody 437 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 5: can win on any given day for any given reason. 438 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 5: And so you know, you put the right group together 439 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 5: that creates the right culture, and all of a sudden 440 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 5: you start playing a good brand of baseball. You know, 441 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 5: things can turn around real quick. So you know, you 442 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 5: can call it a rebuild. The front officers can call 443 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 5: it a rebuild or reset or whatever we want to do. 444 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 5: But I don't think anybody's showing up to spring cashing 445 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 5: in on the season already. I think we all want 446 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 5: to show up and compete. We all have personal reasons 447 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: to compete for and therefore we have reasons to compete 448 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 5: as a team too. So you know, I'm trying to 449 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 5: approach this with the idea that really anything can happen 450 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 5: if we if we put the right bricks in place 451 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 5: and line at us. 452 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: I got one more question before we let let me 453 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: get on with his day. If that's okay, Lance, and 454 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: it's about his boy, Nolan Gorman. I know you guys 455 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: are boys. You talk about a young team, you talk 456 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: about personal reasons to want to compete and do well. 457 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: So we don't know what's going to happen with Nolan 458 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: Arnatto yet, but clearly the Cardinals are looking to make 459 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: a move because they would like to see what Nolan 460 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: Gorman can do. And look, last year was a rough one. 461 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: They were good spots for him, but he was trying 462 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: to stay within the process that he believed in. Tell 463 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: me something about Nolan Gorman, what you expect from him 464 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: and why you believe that he will find it again? 465 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? 466 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 5: I think for and foremost I know that he deals 467 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 5: with failure incredibly well. He's a guy where you know, 468 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 5: I've questioned at times like, hey, are you even upset. 469 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: You just struck out four times, and like you're able 470 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 5: to have a conversation with me, like I wouldn't be 471 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 5: able to sleep tonight. And what I've kind of learned 472 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 5: is that, say, probably one of his most admirable qualities 473 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 5: is his ability to just flush it and keep moving forward. So, yes, 474 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 5: we've seen the stretches of what he can do, and man, 475 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 5: it's so special and he does turn it on in 476 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 5: that way. But I think the most reassuring thing to 477 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 5: me is I haven't seen any of the struggles that 478 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 5: he's gone through really get to him or really affect 479 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: him in a way that I think would hurt his career. 480 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 5: And so you know, he's put in a ton of 481 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 5: work again this offseason. I think his swing is in 482 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 5: a great spot again this offseason, and I don't see 483 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 5: any reason why he can't come out and be the 484 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,239 Speaker 5: guy that we all know he can and that he 485 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 5: knows he can too. 486 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: Maybe I appreciate you coming on and showing us the 487 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: softer side of lance Lynn. Lance I want to thank 488 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: you because you're actually coaching him, and I'm like, this 489 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: guy should be a coach somewhere. I think that'll happen somewhere. Oh, 490 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: it's because you're sitting on a pile of money. Gentlemen, 491 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure, Libby. Thanks for making time, Lance, 492 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: thank you for being a teddy bear that's going to 493 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: do it for this edition of Cardinal Territory. We'll see 494 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: you on the next episode. Hopefully that one won't suck.