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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to jags Am. It's still a

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Speaker 1: bit quiet in the National Football League, though things are

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Speaker 1: picking up this week. The combine is underway. Teams are

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Speaker 1: new league year, which is just a few short weeks

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Speaker 1: from now, and obviously preparations continue for free agency in

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Speaker 1: the draft. We've got a big jags Am for you.

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Speaker 1: Mark Duffner is back this week. John Osier a standing

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Speaker 1: by with his usual brand of intellect and witty repartee.

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Speaker 1: So let's get right to our big things and we'll

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Speaker 1: start with no tags.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: You may have seen bed last night.

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Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons applied the tag to the franchise tag

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Speaker 1: to their tight end. The Jaguars, as of yet, have

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Speaker 1: not used a tag on either running back Travis et

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Speaker 1: It doesn't appear, at least it doesn't appear now that

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Speaker 2: Look and it can change. It's the NFL, it's free agency.

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Speaker 2: They have until next Tuesday, believe to do it. I

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Speaker 2: don't get the idea either player will be back. Unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: I like them both, and a Devon would be a

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Speaker 2: really big tag number, whether it's transition which is a

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Speaker 2: Duff Travis makes the most sense because of that running

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Speaker 2: back position. It is often a draft and wear you

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Speaker 2: out position. And I don't mean to say it cruelly

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Speaker 2: like that, but fifth year, you get into your sixth

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Speaker 2: year at the franchise tag. Maybe that's the limit of

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Speaker 2: real running back effectiveness. So some teams do it that way.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure I see that as the Jaguars MANU

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what their thoughts will be as far

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Speaker 5: as that's concerned, but I'm with you in terms of

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Speaker 5: what the league and what other clubs do in the past.

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Speaker 5: I know that he certainly was a very versatile player,

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Speaker 5: very productive player. So some consideration I think will be

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Speaker 3: Mark take us into the mindset of a coach.

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Speaker 1: You have all pro caliber players etn SQ, we're thirteen touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't ut all pro, but he was really important

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Speaker 1: to the Jaguars, and of course Devin Lloyd had such

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Speaker 1: a monster season. What's the mindset of a coach is

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, first the mindset, you hope you can

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Speaker 5: play with those guys. You know, I'd be lighting candles

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Speaker 5: you know, when you lose these guys and you're going

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Speaker 5: to work like crazy to find ways that you can

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Speaker 5: replace him. This roster is has good depth as productive players,

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Speaker 5: so I think a lot of it is in house.

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Speaker 5: But you know they'll look at free agency or be

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Speaker 2: To Brian people have you know, in my writing about

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Speaker 2: being too casual about Well, it looks like they're gonna

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Speaker 2: be gone. They'll replay them. It's a draft and replace

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Speaker 2: Particularly Travis, they're gonna miss some things about him. If

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Speaker 2: he's not here, and I don't necessarily know that it's

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Speaker 2: the every down stuff, But some of those runs you

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Speaker 2: So I think you're gonna miss some big plays. A

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's got strength and weaknesses. I would just say listening

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Speaker 5: his ability to catch the ball, his ability to make

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Speaker 4: I like what we got coming back in the remaining backs.

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Speaker 5: But again, he certainly had a productive year for us,

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Speaker 1: All Right, Our second big thing is no combine. Listen

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Speaker 1: to the Jags will tell you at the combine there

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Speaker 1: will be scouts there, but you know it's John is

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Speaker 1: years they've been there covering it. Jaguars don't have a

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Speaker 1: huge presence at this year's combine. James Gladstone, the general manager,

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Speaker 3: To some degree.

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Speaker 2: John, Yeah, well to a big degree. In this sense

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Speaker 2: don't consider the in person interview as important for this reason. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but the theory right now that they're holding too is

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Speaker 2: What are you really getting? You know? And I get that,

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Speaker 2: you know, you can look for something intangibly rich in

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Speaker 2: what you're trying to avoid, is that that first impression

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Speaker 2: the research that they do into these players, clouded by

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Speaker 2: That's the theory. Not everybody agrees with it, but that's

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Speaker 5: I think with the preparation that these guys got, just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, I've had coaches tell me that they didn't

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Speaker 2: Because everything else is a stage, and.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars will have a presence there, it just won't

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Speaker 3: When you go.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen and four, doing things differently has a lot of

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Speaker 2: Well, we're not worried. I can tell you that that's

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Speaker 2: But I'm with you, Brian. I look at James Gladstone,

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Speaker 4: Well, shoot, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 5: I saw them last year at Tech a number of situations,

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Speaker 5: And like I said, I would be if I was

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Speaker 5: they've got it. They've got it down right now, and

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Speaker 1: No worries, not satisfied, but you know, it's interesting for

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Speaker 3: All Right, that's big things. When we come back, we'll

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Speaker 3: have John.

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Speaker 1: Osier's number one play from the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 3: You immediately hit me back. I mean within a minute

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Speaker 2: Well, sometimes you just go chalk. I mean, we talked

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Speaker 2: I say about a cool season is there's plays like that.

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Speaker 5: Oh, without a doubt. I mean the effort, the emotion,

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Speaker 2: I mean wasreible and making something out of nothing, which

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Speaker 4: No question about it.

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Speaker 5: And that's the great players make big plays when you

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Speaker 4: This guy made it.

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Speaker 3: Well listen, Trevor.

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Speaker 1: He's just always so cool and calm and composed when

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Speaker 3: And that may not have been the turning point for him.

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Speaker 3: Kid still the Chiefs at that point, without a doubt, one.

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Speaker 2: Of the things for five years. You know, people are

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Speaker 2: well are they emotional? Do they love it enough? And people,

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Speaker 2: I think he didn't really realize how much this kid

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Speaker 1: Well then he put it all together. Any Tracy, it

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Speaker 3: We don't need to do too much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. I mean there are things that you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna get my way again, duff.

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Speaker 2: I mean like this is like I never get my way,

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Speaker 2: good shape. I don't love the kickoffs, but the big

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Speaker 2: for what they're trying to do, it's probably as good

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Speaker 2: as it can be. I don't know what I would suggest.

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Speaker 5: I also, I was ready to say, you're singing my

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Speaker 1: The on side kick was one that we thought we

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Speaker 3: Either one is going to be changed in this office.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the weird thing. The outside kick does need

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Speaker 2: the onside kit can't work. I don't love the idea

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Speaker 2: right again. I don't love the touch pushed.

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Speaker 4: Up, No, and I don't either.

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Speaker 5: You know, it waks so much of rugby right, and

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Speaker 4: And I would think that's a tough play to officiate.

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Speaker 2: And and what you said is exactly right, a tough

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Speaker 2: And they brought it back because it was too hard

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Speaker 1: So as you bring up the officials, it's it's worth

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Speaker 3: I'm an old man too, But that made the rounds

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Speaker 1: Talking not considering necessarily, but talking about allowing replay officials

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Speaker 1: And of course they're going to say, in very limited

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Speaker 2: I think the key is and I really dug into

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Speaker 2: what Troy's talking about. I would expect exactly what you said,

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Speaker 2: the blatant very Oh this guy lined up off sides.

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Speaker 2: We can see it. That's what they've always tried to

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Speaker 2: that it wouldn't disrupt the game. Everybody thinks that they

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Speaker 2: it's irritating.

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Speaker 4: Right, No, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 5: I think I think I like it if it's a blatant,

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Speaker 4: That and again affects the game.

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Speaker 5: You know, otherwise that you too many stops, too many

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Speaker 5: you look at it closely, they.

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Speaker 4: Do a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, all of us can have the

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Speaker 4: Motion and all that kind of stuff. Try to do

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Speaker 4: it live.

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Speaker 5: And Jesual Pete, what they do I think is exceptional

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Speaker 2: I think the key here, Brian, there's no way Troy

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Speaker 2: thing to try to bring back into replay, because if

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting and if Duff's pulling for the Bengals and

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Speaker 2: I'm pulling for the Browns and we see a pass interference,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how blatant we think it is. We're

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Speaker 2: going to argue about it until the next round comes.

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Speaker 1: Well, the three words that I've heard the most about

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Speaker 1: the league wants to do. They want them to be consistent,

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Speaker 1: They want them to be transparent, and they want them

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Speaker 1: to be predictable. And that's what they're trying to achieve.

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Speaker 3: All Right, that's news from Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, Mark Duffner's number one play from

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 3: It we'll look around the AFC South.

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Speaker 1: It maybe predict where the Colts, Texans, and Titans might

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Speaker 1: spend some of their free agent dollars coming up in

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Speaker 1: the next few weeks. All that and more straight ahead

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Speaker 1: on Jags, Am, I'm set it down Lloyd again, Devin Lloyd.

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Speaker 2: What a year?

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Speaker 3: Still rolling down the sideline. One man defeats Lloyd.

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Speaker 1: Big six, huge moments in that big, big game, all

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Speaker 1: pro caliber season. Duff that was sure number one play

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Speaker 1: by the way.

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Speaker 3: Linebacker coach, linebacker coach, that's an easy one. We talked

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Speaker 1: You and I stood in the end zone and watched

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Speaker 3: And you said to me, it's on the coach. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean Len Debaku. What a job.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he did with Devin Lloyd this year. And

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable man.

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Speaker 5: And on this particular play, and when you look at

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Speaker 5: it's fourteen to fourteen, I think it was two minutes

440
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Speaker 5: and thirty seconds left and third quarter, fall in the

441
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Speaker 5: one yard line, second one time to make a big,

442
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Speaker 5: big play, and he made it like nothing.

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Speaker 4: I mean nine.

444
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Speaker 5: Yards to longest picking pick six in franchise history. They're

445
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Speaker 5: in a three by one. I would call him speed

446
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Speaker 5: trips formation, kind of a bunch route and run a

447
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Speaker 5: spacing route. He knew it was coming, got right in

448
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Speaker 5: the middle of that. Great coaching, great preparation on his part.

449
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Speaker 5: Touchdown unbelievable. And by the way, he's the player of

450
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Speaker 5: the AFC Player of the Week, the week before against

451
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Speaker 5: San Francisco with two picks. You talk about an electric

452
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Speaker 5: moment and consistency in production.

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Speaker 3: Wow, we heard Joe Buck in the call say what

454
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Speaker 3: a season at the forty yard lock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was a fifth week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was about that point John that I said

457
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Speaker 1: to myself, goodbye death, good luck, because you saw that

458
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Speaker 1: play and you realized he was going to get paid it.

459
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Speaker 2: And it's awfully tough in free agency to pay a

460
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Speaker 2: linebacker for interceptions. And that's just sort of the NFL reality.

461
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Speaker 2: And I hear def sign next to me because the

462
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Speaker 2: linebacker coach, what's that guy? And I do too. It's

463
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Speaker 2: just difficult. The thing about Devin and it was true

464
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Speaker 2: this year. When you can get him around the ball,

465
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Speaker 2: he is his hands and his instinct, his ability to

466
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Speaker 2: make plays. He's had a lot of forced turnovers in

467
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Speaker 2: his career. Here made a lot of big plays. If

468
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Speaker 2: it doesn't work out, I will miss that guy.

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Speaker 5: Well, let me just say this again. You mentioned Tim

470
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Speaker 5: Lucabo's impact on him. You know Devin again, we were

471
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Speaker 5: talking preseason about his production has been there.

472
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Speaker 4: Well, whatever the case, all I know is this year

473
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Speaker 4: boy was.

474
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Speaker 5: Being boom boom kept going up and up and up,

475
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Speaker 5: and kudos to both of them in terms of the

476
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Speaker 5: preparation and the work they have put into it to

477
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Speaker 5: be that productive and contributing to this team.

478
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Speaker 1: But when you look at that off ball linebacker position,

479
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're making comparisons to some pass rushers into

480
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Speaker 1: some guys that make, you know, thirty thirty five million

481
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Speaker 1: dollars a year. It just gets cost prohibitive to try

482
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Speaker 1: to pay him on a franchise tag or to pay

483
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Speaker 1: him what he's going to command, because someone is going

484
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Speaker 1: to write him a huge check and the Jaguars are

485
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Speaker 1: going to figure out a way around that. All right,

486
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Speaker 1: Let's let's shift our conversation to be ac South, gentlemen.

487
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Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about the Colts as we

488
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Speaker 1: get things started here, and one big thing that they

489
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Speaker 1: should be looking to do in free agency. The draft

490
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Speaker 1: is a totally different ballgame. It's still quite a ways

491
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Speaker 1: your way. But when you're looking at a cornerstone move

492
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Speaker 1: for the Colts, John, what do you see it as

493
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Speaker 1: being well?

494
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Speaker 2: To me? Daniel Jones, I mean, is is he coming back?

495
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Speaker 2: What do they think of him? And achilles is a

496
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Speaker 2: different kind of injury to me? If if you're dealing

497
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Speaker 2: with a player who depends on twitch, you really worry

498
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Speaker 2: about that injury. Quarterbacks can come back from it. It's

499
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Speaker 2: not as debilitating for the quarterback position. They were rolling

500
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Speaker 2: with him. Is he your guy that you say he's

501
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Speaker 2: going to be our franchise for four or five years?

502
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Speaker 2: That to me, If on the Colts, that's that's a

503
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Speaker 2: difficult decision.

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Speaker 1: The complicating factor there is is that his injury took

505
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Speaker 1: place in December. Yeah, if that had happened in September,

506
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Speaker 1: you probably feel a little bit better because you'd know more.

507
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Speaker 2: Yeah, guys come back from a little quicker than they

508
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Speaker 2: used to.

509
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Speaker 3: But you might be paying him to play and he

510
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Speaker 3: might not be able to play.

511
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you're out there, the Achilles is one

512
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Speaker 2: of those that you always worry about. Again, if you

513
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Speaker 2: come back too soon? Set your point?

514
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Speaker 3: What do you do?

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Speaker 2: Deff, you're the boss.

516
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Speaker 5: Well, let me say this to you. I years ago, Achilles,

517
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Speaker 5: if you had it, you were done right. The progress

518
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Speaker 5: medical research and advances are done right now.

519
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Speaker 4: Remarkable how you can come back. And I'm with you

520
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Speaker 4: on the thing.

521
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Speaker 5: I'm more optimistic that he'll come back and be able

522
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Speaker 5: to perform at the level and perhaps even better based

523
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Speaker 5: on a lot of other players' recent advancements as far

524
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Speaker 5: as that's concerned. But again it's a question you wish

525
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 5: the timing wasn't the way you want it. But I

526
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 5: got a feeling that's going to work out for him.

527
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Speaker 1: He made fourteen million dollars last year as a bargain

528
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Speaker 1: for you agents here with the Colts.

529
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Speaker 3: So that's really where it gets tricky.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have to figure out how much do

531
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Speaker 1: we pay him and when do we get him. I

532
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Speaker 1: think I'm with John he'll come back, because we've seen

533
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks make it back. Aaron Rodgers is the most recent example,

534
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago for the Jets, having toured

535
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Speaker 1: his achilles and then playing for the Jets and the

536
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Speaker 1: Steelers in subsequent years. The question is how much of

537
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Speaker 1: the cap, how much of a risk do you bite

538
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Speaker 1: off on a quarterback until you know.

539
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Speaker 2: And is that the directions alts are going to go?

540
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Speaker 2: Meaning midway through last season it was clear they were

541
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Speaker 2: all in right now. I don't know anybody up there anymore.

542
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Speaker 2: Are they still all in right now? Or are they

543
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Speaker 2: WHOA let's pull back and roll.

544
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Speaker 1: Well, it's complicated because they don't have first round picks.

545
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Speaker 1: That's the next two years that quarterback. Yeah, they put

546
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Speaker 1: themselves in a tough spot. All right, let's move on

547
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Speaker 1: to the Texans. They've got a quarterback issue as well.

548
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Speaker 1: Their quarterback did not play very well though, he was

549
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Speaker 1: sacked fifty six times, So it seems like offensive line

550
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Speaker 1: might be a spot they should look.

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Speaker 5: At Duff Absolutely. I mean, again, you've got to protect

552
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Speaker 5: the quarterback. I mean, any team. When we were in

553
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Speaker 5: sencient it was critical that we did did that with

554
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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow and every team has to get that done.

555
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 5: So again, protecting the quarterback's got to be paramount. Getting

556
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Speaker 5: that line better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you also wonder if you know, it's sort of

558
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: Nico Collins and everybody else, you wonder if they might

559
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: get c. J. Strouts some more help. But I'm with you,

560
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: offensive line, but he gets sacked that much. Stroud to

561
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Speaker 2: be their quarterback next year. But I've got to think

562
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: in Houston there's some wondering about what where that position

563
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: is going.

564
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Speaker 3: You had to make a decision soon on his fifth

565
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Speaker 3: year option.

566
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's not really a discussion because it's

567
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: not really free agency. But at some point the Texans

568
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Speaker 2: Stroud started off. It looked like his franchise got Is

569
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Speaker 2: it the offensive line that's the reason that he hasn't

570
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Speaker 2: looked like that? Or is it him? I'm sure those

571
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: are the debates going on in Houston right now.

572
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Speaker 1: Well, and listen, their running game was completely missing this

573
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Speaker 1: year and you could tell that they missed that big back.

574
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Joe Mix heard you know from the get go.

575
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 5: That affected them big time. So again I'm with you.

576
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Speaker 5: You gotta have weapons around round the guy. But again

577
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Speaker 5: protection is going.

578
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Speaker 1: To be critical, all right, And let's heart to the Titans.

579
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Speaker 1: Robert Sama checks in as the head coach there. We

580
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Speaker 1: know Robert from his time here, and it would seem

581
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Speaker 1: that pass rush. They've got the young quarterback. He's got

582
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Speaker 1: a shoulder injury that he's rehabbing from. But if you're

583
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Speaker 1: Robert Salah, the one thing that you turn the tape

584
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Speaker 1: on and look, and so there was zero pressure on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback from his defense line.

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Speaker 4: If you can't win without effect on the quarterback, you

587
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: cannot do it. And and we've seen teams that do

588
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Speaker 4: it effectively.

589
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Speaker 5: About Seattle and what they did and in Super Bowl

590
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Speaker 5: in terms of effecting the quarterback, and that's arch Russian coverage,

591
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Speaker 5: that's pressure, that's interior blitz, it's exterior bit people coming

592
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Speaker 5: off the edge. So absolutely they've got to enhance that

593
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Speaker 5: to go where they want to go defensively and as

594
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Speaker 5: a team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in interesting and see what they do too. Pass

596
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: rush has to be it there there where the Jaguars

597
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: were last year. Do they go all in on free agency,

598
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: meaning three or four rockstar guys, or do they take

599
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: the Jaguars approach because as they didn't go rock star

600
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: last year, they built in spots where they knew. It

601
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 2: feels like the Titans roster is probably further away than

602
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: the Jaguars roster when this regime came in last year.

603
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: So I would expect a little bit of a star

604
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: chasing mode from them, which I'm glad because I'm not

605
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: a big star.

606
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Speaker 3: It doesn't work all that well, right, but that's what

607
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: I would think.

608
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: They've got money, and they've got the franchise quarterback they

609
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Speaker 2: believe coming in. It just besessing how accelerated their start

610
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: is now.

611
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Speaker 3: It's a good draft for pass rushers.

612
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: There will be a few of them when the Titans

613
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: are on the board because they've got an early pick,

614
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: so the other way they could go is to protect

615
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Speaker 1: that quarterback.

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Speaker 3: They've got a hole at left tackle. Perhaps that's a spot, you.

617
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Speaker 1: Know, maybe they're looking around at different guys, even to

618
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: trade to find someone to fill that hole.

619
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Speaker 2: Well they've been you know, so not the worst team

620
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL, but they've been in that conversation for

621
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Speaker 2: two years. Usually when that happens, you have holes. We

622
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Speaker 2: know that.

623
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Speaker 1: We've seen it out of experience firsthand, right absolutely, all right,

624
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Speaker 1: when we come back, we'll wrap up this edition of

625
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Speaker 1: Jags Am, I'll give you mine number one plays. I've

626
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Speaker 1: got two of them from twenty twenty five, and we're

627
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Speaker 1: back after this.

628
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Speaker 3: On drags am six yards away. It's up there, it's

629
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Speaker 3: out there.

630
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Speaker 2: And it's gone.

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Speaker 3: It's gone for sixty eight.

632
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Speaker 2: Jim Little sixty seven yards.

633
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Speaker 3: Listen.

634
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Speaker 1: This isn't very often that you have an NFL record,

635
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: and the Jags got too. They got the longest outdoor

636
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: and the longest indoor kick in the same season. John

637
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: That kick in Las Vegas really I think ignited the

638
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Jags in the second half, the momentum, it was so

639
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: much fun.

640
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: And then the one.

641
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: Against the Titans I mean you're just you're looking across

642
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: the field and saying, you know, punt, punt, don't don't

643
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: give the Jaguars the opportunity, and Mike did and and

644
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: as a result, the Jags made him pay.

645
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: And that I just I enjoyed it.

646
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: That was fun. Yeah, it was another example what I'm

647
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 2: talking about early in the season, and the Raiders game

648
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: was what week it was, game nine. I think for

649
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: game eight, this team needed moment plays to propel it.

650
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: That's where the memory plays came from. And that was

651
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: as big as any of them. Obviously, in an overtime game,

652
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: every point you would have lost if you hadn't gotten it.

653
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 2: But everybody who was in that locker room said, the

654
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: mood changed once you hit that sixty eight yarder. A

655
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: because everybody loves this kid. I mean, he spent anything

656
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 2: he does. People love him like a little brother. But

657
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: because he's really good. I mean, I mean, he has

658
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Speaker 2: a sixty eight yarder. Even the players, not all players

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Speaker 2: know anything about the league, so it's probably not every

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Speaker 2: player on that moment knew that was a record, but

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Speaker 2: they knew sixty eight orders really long.

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Speaker 3: Real long.

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Speaker 4: Well, they got a glimpse of it in preseason when.

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Speaker 3: He kicked a long seventy order.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in preseason, so you knew this was a bomb

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Speaker 5: waiting to go off. So I mean again, like you said,

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Speaker 5: a well like guy, a tremendous competitor.

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Speaker 4: Jesu was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Let's the only record the Jags have, the only record

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Speaker 1: in the NFL record book that says Jacksonville Jaguars next

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 3: So it had to make our top.

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Speaker 2: Plays and something. That's as somebody who's followed the league

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Speaker 2: since I was five years old, and I used to

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Speaker 2: have the record in fact book and I would write

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Speaker 2: stuff down and do sharts and all that. That record.

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Speaker 2: To have the same person have both of the two

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Speaker 2: longest is absurd. Sixty eight and sixty seven too longest

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Speaker 2: field goes NFL history. He's kicked him. That's one that

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Speaker 2: he probably didn't think when he was thirteen years old

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Speaker 2: kicking field goals on his high school field. Whatever happened.

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Speaker 1: Tom Dempsey for the New Orleans Saints at the Old

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Speaker 1: two Land Stadium kicks sixty three yarder in nineteen seventy

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't until nineteen ninety eight that it was

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Speaker 1: matched against the Jags in Denver, right, and then you

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Speaker 1: know that's what thirty twenty eight, twenty nine years later now,

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Speaker 1: and it's been broken several times, and I think if

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Speaker 1: you were to ask, you'd find out that they would

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Speaker 1: expect that that would be broken.

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Speaker 2: Into Yeah, Cam doesn't. I mean I haven't talked to

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Speaker 2: Cam about this since he had the sixty seven yarder,

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Speaker 2: but last year early he did. He fully expect there's

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Speaker 2: some good kickers in the next year for these two

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Speaker 2: records to fall. He should and I think he will

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Speaker 2: savor the moment of owning both of them. But he's

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Speaker 2: also the kind if this thing gets broken by seventy

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Speaker 2: he get it from seventy one. Yeah, I mean he'll

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Speaker 2: be in There might be age.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't heard the last him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be him. Here's old record.

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Speaker 5: We haven't heard the last of him. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: what that gives a team in terms of potential and

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Speaker 5: special situations all this.

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Speaker 4: Kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Well, the field goal at the end of the

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Speaker 1: game against the Titan or the end of the half

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Speaker 1: against the Titans, I mean, you're at midfield and you

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Speaker 1: you go for it and fourth down, because that's what

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Speaker 1: coaches used to do.

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Speaker 3: Not with Kim Little No, no, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 4: If you don't flip it, it changes all your thinking.

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Speaker 3: It makes it fun, just like having you in here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming back two weeks.

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Speaker 2: In the road to kick Thank you love a great job.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'll be back for John's mar come back I

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Speaker 1: expect next week, and maybe Kyle'll even be back with

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Speaker 1: us next week as well.

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Speaker 3: We'll have the whole gang back.

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Speaker 1: Together as we get set for the start of the

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Speaker 1: new league year. Jags Am debuts on Tuesday, available all

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Speaker 1: the time on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: We'll see a sup