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Speaker 2: That's the ship.

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Speaker 3: People don't know love.

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Speaker 2: The oh geez are back, you do. We're back. We're

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Speaker 4: We had in a hundred while.

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Speaker 2: For a minute, brother, then a while, Wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: We got a good one today, though, dog mister greg

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Speaker 2: oden bro, we appreciate you stepping in here. Before we

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Speaker 2: get this thing cooking, though, I got to read something

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Speaker 2: I don't like to read. I'm a college drop out.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this.

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Speaker 3: He can read though he can't read.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't. Yeah, I can't. I'm show would

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Speaker 4: It sounds like.

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Speaker 3: I would not do.

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Speaker 2: But before I get this thing going, I want to

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Speaker 2: make sure we give you your flowers, because one of

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Speaker 2: the most impressive things I seen. We were doing some

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Speaker 2: homework on this consensus second Team All American n ABC

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Speaker 2: wouldn't wouldn't Award Finalists Big Ten Tournament m v P

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Speaker 3: That's crazy first one year. First of all.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I don't feel like I was in

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Speaker 3: And I was a big man too, and he played

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I played for you. I went into biggies, but

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Speaker 4: of that ship. I ain't even heard of. What the

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Speaker 4: fuck is Pete, Pete mcadellet Pete.

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Speaker 3: It ain't be like some of this ship I ain't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, real, congratulations on that man career.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that man career. It's definitely short, but h

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. The best part of your career was

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Speaker 4: He didn't even wait.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna take time, man, I was gonna I

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Speaker 4: I was I was eighteen years old. I was about

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Speaker 2: This Mike sucked me up, like the Gators got y'all

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Speaker 2: dawn man, But let's let's let's talk. Let's talk about that,

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Speaker 2: just because you know, it's fun to rip the band

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Speaker 2: You're right and and and we'll get to something else.

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Speaker 2: Because he had he had another teammate over there.

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Speaker 4: Every award in college. Clearly he was unstoppable on both

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Speaker 4: I'm sure your tickets were free. I didn't get the call.

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Speaker 4: He didn't go to Florida at home, you know, differ

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Speaker 2: How good was that Florida team?

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Speaker 1: Man, back to back National champions I mean, with six

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Shout out Torri and coaching

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Obviously you're doing the coaching things.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, when I retired, I didn't know what I wanted

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Speaker 3: So you hear three really started from the bottom grass assistant.

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Speaker 1: Manager number one, draft pick manager twenty eight in fucking

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Speaker 3: All these spoiled all these spoiled motherfuckers at home. I

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Speaker 2: Up, you know what. And that's why I'm glad I

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Speaker 2: that Butler understand that all these kids you're helping with

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Speaker 3: Listen in the Greg old that Butler.

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Speaker 2: I'm just I don't know. You know, these young kids.

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Speaker 3: Now called me. I make sure they motherfucking listen.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's get Let's get over the let's get Let's

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Speaker 2: Because high school teammates with Mike Conley, middle school teammates.

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Speaker 2: How much was that ticket for you too to go

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Speaker 3: Just Mike just diving right into it this morning, and

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Speaker 4: Well I felt like this.

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Speaker 1: I still remember when Brandon Roy and LaMarcus laughed at

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Speaker 1: anything but pel Grant.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's.

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Speaker 1: Uh, that'sn't heard of. Well, you got to think out

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Speaker 4: So, Maurice Correct, I got a whole different set of

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Speaker 4: with Ohio State and Maurice Correct. I love you as

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Speaker 4: redemption story, but that was a bullshit. That was not

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Speaker 2: So what made you choose ohiose did it? Because obviously

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Speaker 2: But it was always known that you and Mike were

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Speaker 4: He got it for y'all. This guy here, what made

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was just somebody that we gravitated towards,

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Speaker 3: How was that?

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Speaker 4: Never heard of it? Terrible hot indian Uh Homer.

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Speaker 2: Larry bird like say man.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was from French lickcause some ship.

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Speaker 4: But when he went Terhill State in the United States

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Speaker 2: Lick French like Indiana played terror Halts and.

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Speaker 3: Okay, cool.

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Speaker 4: So don't be talking about how I don't know that

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Speaker 4: else knows after that about who else went there? Uh?

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Speaker 4: What we got? Baby joker?

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Speaker 1: Baby joker, he just transferred to But uh, all right,

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Speaker 1: Robbie out of Villa out, go to Indiana State. He

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Speaker 4: In your face. Okay, literally called him baby joke.

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Speaker 2: College coach, Now youre talking like college that's what.

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Speaker 3: That's the only reason why I you know that ship

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Speaker 1: They lost in the championship, but they played that Butler,

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Speaker 4: I wish they would I wish they would expand, expand

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Speaker 4: But but almost sent us The year we went to

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Speaker 4: Mike made a last second shot I guesst Butler for

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Speaker 4: We don't go to the championship.

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Speaker 4: That was in Indy.

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Speaker 4: So no disrespect to who hangs the n I T

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Speaker 4: That's my just my thing. Me personally, I don't want it.

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Speaker 3: If you got a problem with Mike Conley.

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Speaker 2: No, I need you to say something because I'm sick

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Speaker 4: You Holiday and Mike Conyedy as much as I am

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Speaker 4: There's the reason why I kind of hated him for a.

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Speaker 4: And they know each other.

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Speaker 1: We was in high school and we never played on

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Speaker 1: And it was a couple of picks, no little shoulder shove.

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Speaker 3: Now is this the brother that played college football?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Arkansas, Arkansas ra Athony Odin. I love you boy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't ain't Dan, don't fuckin't folks.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell the story, all right.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to know where your head was

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Speaker 1: But then you're injured, So talk about that. So I'm

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Speaker 1: I see Joe Camp. He's like about to turn up

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Speaker 1: the New York geo fuckers, like you got an hour

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Speaker 1: to pack your ship. You're on the PJ because we

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Speaker 1: I got family I haven't seen in years in New York.

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Speaker 2: Thing like four or five hours.

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Speaker 4: the fuck you was rushing him to get to Portland

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Speaker 3: I have seen your out life, I have seen your

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Speaker 4: Ain't a motherfucking thing going on when you had to

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Speaker 4: ever seen was some ship like from X file shart

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Speaker 4: Listen, I'm just telling you what I've seen. Man, I

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Speaker 1: Love Portland and I actually found some night life and

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Speaker 4: Okay, cool, because I mean the strip clubs. I tell

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Speaker 3: Just put that back on. Don't worry about I'm cool.

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Speaker 4: Gore said the same ship here from Slovenia. Y'all couldn't

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Speaker 1: They said, you gotta got some missing cartilage in there,

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Speaker 2: come back like yeah, like everyone I just want to

438
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,879
Speaker 2: make sure everyone understand that a different time, Like the

439
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 2: micro factor at that time was like, oh my god,

440
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,360
Speaker 2: he might never play again type shit.

441
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of guys got it, a

442
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 4: lot of forgetting it.

443
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so go ahead.

444
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 1: No, So it was just you know, got it and

445
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 1: realize I'm out for a year, and you just don't

446
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,120
Speaker 1: know how to feel with that. You know, I'm number

447
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 1: one pick, nineteen years old, I'm getting new to a

448
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 1: new city, new coast.

449
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 2: On top of since ninth grade. Tenth grade. I was

450
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 2: very humble with it. No, I'm cool, I'm cool. I'm

451
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: not gonna be for you.

452
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know, to comes from being that

453
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: high to kind of that low. And the one of

454
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,639
Speaker 1: the stories I like to talk about is like, all right,

455
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: when I was able to finally walk, and I'm like,

456
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: all right, let me go be around my teammates, let

457
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: me they having a little party, let me go. I

458
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,879
Speaker 1: walk up the bouncer, Like the whole entire world know

459
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: you're nineteen, I can't let you in here. So it's

460
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to hang out with my teammates, but

461
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 1: I can't because I can't go to spots stay go too.

462
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: So now I'm having house. Was at the house, I

463
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 1: got a whole year off, Like I got to just

464
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: sit down in Portland Ship every night. Hey, who can

465
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 1: get come over?

466
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 4: Why not? I know he wasn't coming over. Who the motherfuckers?

467
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,760
Speaker 4: I seen y'all wasn't invited, you know, Ship, I see

468
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 4: it was not invited.

469
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 1: You know when I first got there, when I was

470
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 1: going on my visit z Bo real shot man, shout out.

471
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 4: A real man Zo.

472
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: I was meeting people in year five that I met

473
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: at Zebo House, like z Bo and Darius Miles.

474
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 4: When I first came in, they were Miles was great.

475
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 4: I forgot he was on the team. Yeah that first year.

476
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 4: People don't know that. But they paid to send him home.

477
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 3: Damn. Yeah, that's crazy.

478
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 4: The Miles.

479
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: He was the one always talking to me, telling me

480
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: about the city, how to maneuver out here, like he

481
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 1: was actually being And then yeah, then they kind of

482
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: was like I don't want him, know, messing with g O.

483
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just rehabbing. We're just talking on the

484
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 1: elliptical like a doing. I'm just trying to learn, you know.

485
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: And they paid him to send them home.

486
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: Hey, man, for man, Yeah, for real, for teams in

487
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 2: the NBA, and obviously for players, it's such a it's

488
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 2: such a finicky thing because if you look at that

489
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: team that they had in Portland, if you stay I

490
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: mean there's a lot of ifs, but you stay healthy.

491
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: Brandon roy Stad is healthy. Mark talk about especially at

492
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: that time, and that if you're playing two seven footers

493
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: that are both that mobile and big, and LaMarcus can

494
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: step out and do his thing, and Brandon roy was

495
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 2: a gangster on the wing, that team would have been

496
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 2: fucking real quick.

497
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 4: All your motherfuckers at home, let's talk about before you

498
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 4: get to LaMarcus artists, because weve seen l A. Let's

499
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: talk all your motherfuckers at home. Just tell you fuckers

500
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 4: about Brandon roy Man. What you talk Everybody, Go YouTube

501
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 4: Brandon Roy's top team players. You would be fucking amazing.

502
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 4: And it was so easy to him, like literally they

503
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 4: called him the natural because everything just easy to him

504
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 4: and he was so smooth. Great nickname, Yeah from Seattle.

505
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 4: I cracked out there. I'm saying my full name, man

506
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,959
Speaker 4: yo on the owner. I didn't know he's from Seattle.

507
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 4: So now on the low, like I'm putting together. Some

508
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 4: hoopers come out of Seattle. They get out there and

509
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: they bucket. Get us to the bucket, get us. We

510
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: were coming out of Seattle.

511
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: And the real one of that right now, you know

512
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: who I'm gonna say, Polo goddamn. Oh yeah, yeah, sir,

513
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 2: huh say something.

514
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: I'm not finishing because I like poo finna say nothing.

515
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: I like, I wasn't sure in college. I just thought

516
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: he had short arms. I mean kind of do a

517
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: little bit.

518
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, that motherfucker that problem.

519
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 4: He changed my mind. I put it like that. I'm

520
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 4: a fan, so I mean, I'm playing that on Ty

521
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 4: Orlando team boys is good. I was just about to

522
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 4: bring that up. I love what coach Mosey has done

523
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 4: over there. I love what they're doing over there in Orlando.

524
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 4: Sone them. They got him on too, and they're building.

525
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 2: But go ahead. So Brandon Roy talking just a little

526
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: bit about him though.

527
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: He just did everything on the court and it was

528
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: just so easy to him. Like I remember one game

529
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: and I wasn't even playing, but he was playing against

530
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: the Rockets. So twenty seconds left, fucking.

531
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, turn around jumper man one b Roy come back

532
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 4: two seconds jumper. We up one. Yeah, fucking seventeen foot

533
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 4: turnaround they have one. B Roy catch the ball at

534
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 4: half court. Shoot that motherfucker up split splash that motherfucker

535
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 4: running down mouck.

536
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: I love that.

537
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 4: This is like my first year. I'm jumping up and down.

538
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 4: What the fuck?

539
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: I thought he was quiet, man, I thought he was quiet.

540
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: Man.

541
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: You gotta see that ship. That game was crazy. But

542
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 4: b Ro used to just do ship like that all

543
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 4: the time.

544
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: And he had if I'm not mistaken, he had injury

545
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 3: or something the same thing.

546
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he had cartilage actually.

547
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 2: Because he was like bon bone.

548
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that ship. You think about that, like he was.

549
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 1: He was out for a year and then they just

550
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: kept him on the team. And then that last year,

551
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: remember you came in, he got a I want to say,

552
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: you want the playoff.

553
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: Game, you know, just dusting him off, win the game,

554
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: like you.

555
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 4: Ain't played in about twenty five games, come.

556
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: In this playoff the natural man, what right nickname again?

557
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: And a good dude man you brought up. You brought

558
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 2: up a motherfucker, by the way, and y'all mean man.

559
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: So when you when you were back on the floor

560
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: playing like he had.

561
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 4: Liked guards, I mean was on the side.

562
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but y'all you know his big Listen.

563
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 4: You think he's gonna take two dribbles and turn around,

564
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 4: dunk and that motherfucker do it one foot fade away

565
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 4: in your face, man, I sun motherfucker shooting that ship

566
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 4: on shock.

567
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: I was sitting on the bench. I ain't know what

568
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 3: to do.

569
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,479
Speaker 4: Man, God damn, you don't see nobody shooting. No motherfucker

570
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 4: turn around fade away on Big Fella like that like

571
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 4: most bigs is going back and forth and shooting jump

572
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 4: hooks and ship. He turned around fade away on Big Fellow.

573
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 4: Was like that, damn.

574
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: And you couldn't block that ship with seven six seven six.

575
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: They had a whole two feet.

576
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I love you, Yeah, listen, hey listen man. Yes,

577
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 3: my last too, he was.

578
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: Like five six.

579
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: He was like, I said, yeah, hold on, hold on,

580
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: if you got the capitain these five six, let me

581
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 4: pay man in the shots, fir.

582
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: I love Peyton was my first like celebrity that I'm

583
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: it was just like, yeah, we went to his uh

584
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: bowling tournament they used to run in Indianapolis, and he

585
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: came up to me and Mike and he was like,

586
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: how you guys rolling.

587
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, we're doing okay.

588
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm playing like ship and I was

589
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: just like, I'm sixteen, first time hearing Peyton Manny and

590
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: her celebrity just cuss.

591
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: I was just it's my favorite player of all time.

592
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I never made Peyton Manning, but I funk

593
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 4: with him because of what I heard about him. Eddrian

594
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 4: James and those guys they talked highly about him, Reggie

595
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: Wayne when he was out there. Indianapolis had Dan James

596
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 4: and Reggie Wayne. They were loaded up loaded. I still

597
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 4: see your Reggie around the city. Yeah a while though,

598
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: but they used to come to my high school games.

599
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 4: I see Edge all the time. Cool small world son

600
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 4: playing right now? Hooper right now?

601
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: Yeah he's that Cincinnati shout out man. Yeah you thing,

602
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: you fella.

603
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: So you talked, You talked about the guys you played

604
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: with and played against, y'all being one of your toughest covers.

605
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: The bigs in the league now compared to the bigs

606
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: in the league when you were playing or when you're

607
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: come up in college, obviously played different. Now give me

608
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: your favorite bigs in the league right now.

609
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: Joker like he's just he does it. He's great. A

610
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: d uh, Joe l I'm still guy. He's just been

611
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: solid for Yes he has, Yes he has, Yes he has.

612
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: And then Brook Lowpez I'm a Brook Lopez than you know,

613
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: grew up playing against him to see how he changed.

614
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: He pivoted. He pivoted like no other player I've ever seen.

615
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 3: He didn't even go down in the paint no more.

616
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 4: You know what though two years ago when they won

617
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: and he started going down and it was a big

618
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 4: factor for the win.

619
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: It but it's wild to he did it, guess U. Yeah,

620
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: it's wild though when you think that's funny, now us

621
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: so funny. I was going for y'all he too, what

622
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: you're talking about talk about that too.

623
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: But but but that's funny because Brooke, I'm glad you

624
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: talked about because like real hoopers that watch. That man

625
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: was like made All Star Games posting up with a

626
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: right hook. That's a crab craft hook. That's all he

627
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: did for like three straight years and all he shoot

628
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: jumpers is wild. I mean when he was he controls

629
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: the paint too defensive, That's what.

630
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: It was, Brooklyn. It was the last time he really

631
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 3: got down there.

632
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 4: And banging. I think when he got to l A

633
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 4: he started to stretch it out a little bit and

634
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 4: change his game a little bit. But yeah, he was

635
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: a problem in the motherfucking post down there. Boy, he

636
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 4: had and he had to face up all that ship.

637
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. He was a problem

638
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: down there.

639
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: I went to go see Cleveland versus Milwaukee, and I

640
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: forgot that they had Robin too. And you see them

641
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: big motherfucker man, they make honest look small real and

642
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: I forgot, like they pointed to me.

643
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 4: I was like, those two more guys. You can't hate, No, no,

644
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: you can't hate the Lopez brothers. How can you hate

645
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 4: the Lopez brothers. I mean, don't they got like property

646
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: at Disneyland and ship like they hang out. And how

647
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: you hate the low Pez brother You gotta go to

648
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: church if you do. Yeah, it's something wrong with you

649
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: if you hate the low Pez brothers.

650
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: Look at his hat. Good guys, finish first.

651
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I need one of those hats.

652
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 4: No, Mike, I'm killing what No, No, don't give him

653
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: more than I need.

654
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 3: Want the hass. I'm a good guy, burn, I'm a

655
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: lawyer guy. I take away the good guy.

656
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: You said you're you said you're a heat. You're you're

657
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: cheering for the heat, which you know it's up for

658
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: the bait. I don't know if that's really the truth,

659
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 2: but what I know, let's talk about this though, because

660
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: I think again it's part of a great story that

661
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: we've touched on before getting on here, that a whole

662
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: lot of guys wanted done being the number one pick,

663
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: then making three years off of just straight rehab to

664
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: come back, then you come back to Miami, speak on

665
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: that just for a little bit.

666
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: A lot of you motherfuckers at home imntally tough to

667
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 4: go three years not knowing what the outcome is going.

668
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: To be, no doubt.

669
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted to play, That's all I knew.

670
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: And I just knew I had to get my body

671
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: right and it had to be right, you know. I

672
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: had to make sure I was able to to do

673
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: something for you guys. And even when I got there,

674
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: even through three years of rehab, I was still on

675
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: the minutes restriction, you know, like if I practice, you know,

676
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: I can't play the next two days or something like that,

677
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: or if I played, I can't practice the next two days.

678
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: It was like that so I mean just for me,

679
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: It's just I knew this was what I wanted. And uh,

680
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 1: you know we was talking earlier. I'm old school. They

681
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: said you got to keep on working, keep on working.

682
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know when the end game was going to be.

683
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: I just kept working, and then lucky enough, I was

684
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: able to join a Heat team that I definitely walked

685
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: in that motherfucker like, yeah, fit my ship right here.

686
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to put that money. Hey, but I

687
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: will say this, I was hoping we was gonna get it,

688
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: and uh, I never talked about it, but yeah, Kawhi

689
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: got it because.

690
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: Of game three. Yes it was game three.

691
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: But look, every time that motherfucker Mino got it, we

692
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: would be up by five. Mino will get in and

693
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: five minutes we'd be down by ten. And then when

694
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: that motherfucker came through the lane and pushed Ray off

695
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: and dunked on C B bruh, I'm behind the bench.

696
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: I said, wait, where am I? Where am I? Where

697
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 4: am I don't know if his year for the Heat

698
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: or not. Hey, justin justin hell.

699
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: I was like, you see that ship.

700
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm gonna I'm gonna just tell you this, like

701
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: I've watched. I watched, you know what I'm saying, your

702
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 4: good days and I watch your bad days. You know

703
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But I commend you for standing in

704
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 4: the saddle. You you know what I'm saying. Everybody see

705
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: the finished product of you know, when you get out

706
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 4: there on the basketball court and you're on the ministration

707
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: and you get a chance to play, but they don't

708
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: see the next day when you when you got to recover,

709
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: when you're in pain, and when your energy and your

710
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: emotions it's a little bit different because you played the

711
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 4: day before. Now you got to take a day off.

712
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 4: So I understood how that emotional roller coaster was for you.

713
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: So commin you for that dog, for staying in that saddle,

714
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 4: because I know that wasn't easy for you because I

715
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: was a part of that process with you, just seeing

716
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: you know, you come out one day, you practice, the

717
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: next day, you got to take the day off. You

718
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. You down a little bit, you

719
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, You're a little frustrated. So I

720
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: saw how that journey with for you, dog, So I

721
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 4: command you for staying in the saddle and for those

722
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: three years. You know, what I'm saying that you had

723
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 4: to put in at work just to get back to

724
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: be able to help us. But can you just talk

725
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: about like, how did how did the Heat come involved? Like,

726
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: out of all the teams and everybody in the NBA,

727
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 4: how did they end up being the Miami Heat? Because

728
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 4: Spot spoke highly of you and he talked about how

729
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: you're one of the greatest success stories in the history

730
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 4: of the.

731
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: Game of basketball. So just how did they end up

732
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: being the Miami Heat.

733
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: The teams that I visited was a Sacramento Dallas in Miami,

734
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: and honestly, Sacramento was like, we'll give you a three

735
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: year deal, but you got to play seventy five games.

736
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: And if I really looked at myself out, my niece

737
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: can't do seventy five games, or it can't be in

738
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: contract because I'm gonna lose all that money.

739
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know Dallas.

740
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban in the dirt there. What could have been

741
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: that mother said, look, we'll give you one year, second

742
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: year player option. We don't even want you to play

743
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: the first year.

744
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: Wow.

745
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: So think about how stupid I am. And then I

746
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: go to Miami and I'm sitting there they promised the

747
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: same thing. I'm like, ship, I'm in this hotel for

748
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: about three days. They mike this contract. I signed this motherfucker.

749
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: H We're still working on it. They five, but I'm

750
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: still in Miami though. That's how they got me.

751
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: Give me that one year guaranteed. Okay for five six days.

752
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 4: Enjoyed the city a little bit.

753
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: It's a lot like Portland.

754
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: That damn lie you do that, you know when you

755
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 4: walk outside a different he.

756
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: Ranked one A and one B strip clubs Portland, Miami.

757
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: No things like that.

758
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 3: You did thing.

759
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: No, No Cleveland, I mean Portland even in the top

760
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 4: one where we have Christmas in the top one hundred. Chris, Hey, hey, hey, okay, listen,

761
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 4: we're just gonna put it out there since you want

762
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 4: to bring that up.

763
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 3: We had we had a job. We had a team

764
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 3: Christmas party at Tissies.

765
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas.

766
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 4: We had a team Christmas party at We decided to

767
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 4: do something, got to do something a little different that year.

768
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: So all the guys got together for a team Christmas

769
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 4: party at Tissies and we traded gifts. Yeah, yeah, we

770
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 4: did different.

771
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: It was a different same It was a gift change.

772
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: So the funny part about it were sitting there in

773
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: the locker room because we're supposed to do the giftic

774
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: change and go what the fucking shame, man, shame. Ten

775
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: minutes late, fifteen minutes, somebody called, shame, what the fuck?

776
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: Where are you?

777
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 4: Motherfucker? We dropped the gifts. Well, I've been here. It's like,

778
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 4: what the fuck even to him?

779
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: To be the early one?

780
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, man, listen, that was one of those situations

781
00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 4: where we just needed a little curve ball. We just Yeah,

782
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: it was one of those things where seasons gets a

783
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: little long and it gets a little stressful, and we

784
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: wanted the more highly televised teams in the NBA.

785
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: It was a lot of we just need a little

786
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: we just need a little team bonding.

787
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: I know that team needed to really twist the arm

788
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: to get the testies. I know, it's kind of a

789
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: dragon out kind of deal.

790
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: Well, some would say that Heat around that time had

791
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 4: a little ownership in tests. Some would say to Heat

792
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: around that time. Some would say the Heat around that

793
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 4: time had a little oldership, little stock testing. But we

794
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: needed that bonding, you know what I'm saying. Like I

795
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: talked about how Greg had his good days and his

796
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: bad days, as a team, being on fucking TV every day,

797
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: being the most scrutinized team every single day, taking on

798
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 4: the Lebron James effect every single day. You know what

799
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying, That shit got to be a lot for

800
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 4: us as a team. So one thing I did learn

801
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 4: when when we had that group of guys together and

802
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 4: we had Braun, and one the thing I did learn

803
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: from Braun is spending time together as a team off

804
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 4: the basketball court. That ship is just as important to

805
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: showing up every day for practice because you build that bond.

806
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 4: And once again, when you're playing against somebody, say next

807
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 4: to somebody who you look at as a brother as

808
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: opposed to a teammate, you play harder. What I'm saying,

809
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 4: you're more doubt then. You know what I'm saying, You

810
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 4: believe in enjoying somebody else's success. All that shit translate,

811
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 4: it goes over into winning. So that was one of

812
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 4: the ways we decided to do at that time. And

813
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 4: I don't feel bad about the goddamnit what he just said, though.

814
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 4: That's something I want to say to all these kids.

815
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: Man, you know, just how you become a good teammate,

816
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, be around the guys get to know your teammate.

817
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: That's what you're gonna play for them better. You know,

818
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: some people you might not like, but they get around them.

819
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: Just be respectful, and being around that team is I've

820
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: seen a different level of basketball. I've seen the things

821
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: that Lebron, James and d Wade would do that I

822
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: know a fucking thirteen year old kid wouldn't even do

823
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: right now in the basketball court. And it's just like

824
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: to see the best player on the planet do that shit. Like,

825
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: I still I talk to people all the time. I

826
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: remember Bron was guarding the corner. That made a pass

827
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: to the top in the other corner, and Bron was

828
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: right there when that ball got this Like, you're not

829
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: supposed to play defense. You're not supposed to have to

830
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: move that fast. He's not human, you know. I just

831
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: appreciate that year and things I learned from spoke Like,

832
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: I still got my packet from that year. I'll still

833
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: take it to a lot of the coaches and show

834
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: them because I learned a lot from that team and

835
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: just seeing basketball at the highest level with some of

836
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: the best players and still doing the little things to

837
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: make it work.

838
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: You you made good points, both of you are talking

839
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: about something, because I'm curious. You come. You have Sacramento,

840
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: you have Dallas. Both good deals on the table, hold.

841
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: On around that time Sacramento where people with to die.

842
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 4: I said, two good deals, but I would have been

843
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: there with with cousins.

844
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, two good winning nothing. He chooses. He chooses Miami,

845
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: obviously coming into a team that just went back to

846
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: back championships. What was your perspective when you walked in

847
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 2: that locker room and it's braun U, d d Way,

848
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: Chris Bosh, Rayel, and Shane Battier Because everyone has a

849
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: different perspective when they walk in it. We've seen it

850
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: from the beginning. He was there before I got there.

851
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: But we walk in that locker room and it's kind

852
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: of that that was kind of the making of that team.

853
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: Then they shipped me up, so I didn't.

854
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: Get to see their part the moment with that bullshit.

855
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 2: Anyways, But the question is what was it like? Because

856
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: I know you said fit me right here, right like,

857
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: that's what your guys' goal was, That's what all the

858
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: goals are. But what was your perspective we walked in there?

859
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: Because you touched on a little bit, because I think

860
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 2: for people to hear the stories of how that team, Yes,

861
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: was super successful, but the reason why we're successful is

862
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: because of practice, habit, habit working. And so for a

863
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: young kid that's coming in on injuries and doing stuff,

864
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: when you walked in there, what was your perspective? Like?

865
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Nervous as hell. I honestly didn't know what to think

866
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: because from me, I was three years removed. So all

867
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: I want to do is come in and not be

868
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: a problem. But you know, day one, I'm in there

869
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: working out, and then I got Norris Cole who played

870
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: high school ball with my Dayton Dunbar. And then bron

871
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: comes in. We take our little Ohio picture. So it

872
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: was like it like warmed me up. And then I

873
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: got to meet you guys and everybody was cool, and

874
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: I was scared as fucking him.

875
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 2: To locker room.

876
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: In that locker room, straight face, like, look, don't body

877
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: fuck around. This is my team. We built a lot

878
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: of this ship. So look, anybody funking around, he don't

879
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: care who it was you funk around.

880
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 4: You got to deal with me.

881
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: Man. There's only one person who's scared of in the

882
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: locker room when we were there, me mother, I can

883
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: tell you.

884
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: Know because if I if I ever put my hands

885
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 4: on them and then I get home and feel bad

886
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: at night, that's my dog. But I will tell you

887
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: this though, like me and you hung out. You know

888
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And because what I once again building

889
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: relationships off the basketball court. Man, you can't just show

890
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: up for practice and think that you're gonna be able

891
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: to build that bond in that relationship. So we got

892
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 4: a chance to hang out off the basketball court and

893
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 4: just just just tell the people who are because you

894
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: put me, you put me on something I never already said.

895
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: I never drank that ship again. But tell me what

896
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 4: the Patrinity man, where did that come?

897
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 3: The reason?

898
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 4: Because Jeff t shout Jeff who said he never won

899
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: a game against you in high school? Is that true?

900
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 2: Yes?

901
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: You just beat the man like that. We lost three games.

902
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 4: Does he speak to you years? I wouldn't speak to

903
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: you as against you. I made him taking on this podcast.

904
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 4: That's what he said. He said, that's something that's Midwest ship.

905
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: So that's because so because down Chill, I got it

906
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 4: from West Coasta Froland.

907
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold up, hold up. I want to make

908
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: sure people don't miss that because I almost missed it.

909
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: It's half what half.

910
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: Put trinancy. The ship has started jet.

911
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 4: They are near.

912
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: You talk about some ship that's pressure.

913
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: So I didn't hear about till it got passed down

914
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: from Seattle. And I guess this is a beast modes.

915
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a lot of sense funny.

916
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: I was in Vegas a lot of I was in

917
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: Vegas last week and I saw him in the I

918
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: was like, I'm about to go up there. Let's take

919
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: a shot to Trinity. This motherfucker said, I already got

920
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: a full glass. He is a beast, no real recognized

921
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: real one of the real ones.

922
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: Man. I heard nothing but great things about him though,

923
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 4: And also real one shining the dog. So we're gonna

924
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: go back to you what you went through for those

925
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 4: three years to get back to the point where you

926
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 4: was at. Man, you shined in the dog, Man, so

927
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: real one shining the dog. So I always look at that.

928
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 4: And I know you said you made a quote, and

929
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna check you on this. In twenty sixteen, I

930
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: think it was an article with Chris Haynes, and you

931
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 4: said you might be remembered as one of the biggest

932
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: bus in the NBA. I disagree. We can agree to disagree.

933
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, We can agree to disagree

934
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 4: because I look at it from a different angle. I

935
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 4: look at somebody who persevered over three years not knowing

936
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: what the outcome is gonna be. You know what I'm saying.

937
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 4: That takes tremendous faith. You know what I'm saying, That

938
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 4: that trait takes resilience, you know what I'm saying. So

939
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 4: I look at it just like spo to look at it,

940
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: and a lot of people look at it. I look

941
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 4: at it as a success story, you know what I'm saying,

942
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: for you to be able to and come back and

943
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 4: to be able to come in the NBA locker room

944
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 4: and still be able to contribute and play the game

945
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: of basketball that you love after going through so much mentally, physically,

946
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 4: and emotionally. So I just want to say, I can

947
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 4: disagree with you. We can agree to disagree on that.

948
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. How do you feel about

949
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 4: like the way it all turned out? You know what

950
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Because they have this thing, and I know

951
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 4: you've seen it. It's this old lady. She come up

952
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 4: to you and she asked you about basketball and then

953
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 4: you say no, I'm retired, I don't play anymore. And

954
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 4: then the way Instagram and shit try to make it seem.

955
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: Like it was sad.

956
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, you was going

957
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: to school and you was getting your degree and doing

958
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: the shit that you wanted to.

959
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: By the way, me and you have that in common,

960
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: went back to school get a degree.

961
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 3: That motherfucker didn't that motherfucking with the school for basketball,

962
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: he had no intentions on ever getting in to do.

963
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: Let me just put that out there.

964
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Two sundays ago, I just graduated from the Ohouse State

965
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: University master's degree. Yes, yeah, I did three twelve phase

966
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: papers in a month and a half and I will

967
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: never I did. I did it myself. No chat, GPT.

968
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: I actually those fuckings cheating. No nowadays, hunting very.

969
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: Proud of that shit for youpressing.

970
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: This is the ship I'm talking about.

971
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 4: So when you look at it and you said twenty sixteen,

972
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 4: eight years ago, do you still feel that same way now?

973
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: No, because once I said that a lot of people

974
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: came out like, no, he's not not. But at the

975
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: time I was going I was the number one pick.

976
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: I injured all the time. I rarely played technically. If

977
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking at and KD is just so great that

978
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: you know when you look at it, I'm technically one

979
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: of the biggest buss. But you know a lot of

980
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: people what you mean? Okay, you know, but I'm with you.

981
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I don't think something you're like. I understand,

982
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: I understand why you could say something like that, but

983
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't understand. To me, busts are guys that just

984
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: didn't go out and play it to their ability.

985
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just say this right now. I ain't trying

986
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 4: to throw no shot at nobody. Who is that motherfucker

987
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: that Cleveland drafted from Bennett Anthony Bus.

988
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: It's a difference we're having on the podcast next week.

989
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: It's a difference.

990
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: You were injured.

991
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: You were injured. Injuries derailed your career, them on our podcast.

992
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: Injury derailed your career.

993
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And that's something that's out

994
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 4: of your control. It had nothing to do with you

995
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 4: finding a good spot, had nothing with you growing as

996
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: a basketball player, had nothing with you maturing, had nothing

997
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: to do with you making mistakes off the basketball court,

998
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 4: had nothing to do with you improving your game. It

999
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 4: had nothing to do with you being your best version.

1000
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 4: It had nothing that you're doing. Being uncoachable had nothing

1001
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: to do with any of that. It had to do

1002
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: with something that was out of your control.

1003
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: And it was an injury.

1004
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 4: I can't say, I can't agree with that. You were

1005
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 4: a bus well not even technically, not fucking no kind

1006
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: of way, not that.

1007
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: Nothing, no, no, I mean it was said eight years ago. Yeah,

1008
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 1: I get it, you know, and you know the way

1009
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm matured, I understand that, and.

1010
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 3: I look at it like that. But you know, your

1011
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: inspiration thog.

1012
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 4: I'll take that because a lot of motherfuckers will fall

1013
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 4: off and you'll never see him again, never hear from

1014
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 4: him again. To go back to get your degree coaching

1015
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: out for the bottom assistant after the career, you had

1016
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 4: to start from the bottom as a manager.

1017
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: Come on, man, man, that's grown man ship though, I.

1018
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: Look at it like that. Man, You got to learn

1019
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: everything and get where you want to go. Like you

1020
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: got to learn the bottom level, you got to learn

1021
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: the middle level. You got to connect with everybody. That's

1022
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: why when I walked in here, I wanted to say

1023
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: hi to everybody that was in this room. Just little

1024
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: things like that, a lot of these kids don't know

1025
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: that you need to do be respectful. You need to

1026
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: learn every part of what you're trying to do to

1027
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: be up there. If you want to be a coach,

1028
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: learn what the managers are doing. You're gonna have to

1029
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: be assistant coach to be a good head coach, you know, and.

1030
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: Your story allows you to be able to do that

1031
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 2: because you live through it too, because you're at the

1032
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: top over here at the mountain, right and then all

1033
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: of a sudden you got to realize it's like anything else,

1034
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: even when guys retire. And I was going to ask

1035
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: you that, like because your injuries, you know, And I'm

1036
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: gonna say this question, like when did you know it

1037
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: was time to leave and get be done? Just be done?

1038
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: But like being on that top and going through all stuff,

1039
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: and now you're coaching with these kids, Like what kind

1040
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: of message? What is the hardest thing about coaching? Right now?

1041
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: Because I lived it, I was a college coach and

1042
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: then two killing your phone, ringing what's up? I'm gonna

1043
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: call you back. You never know. I'm just making sure

1044
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: get percentage always, you never know. I just want my percentage.

1045
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: What what is it like that when you have those

1046
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: messages those kids like do they listen? Are they listening?

1047
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: Are they taking it in? Are you? Are you? Hell?

1048
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: What is your biggest challenge in the coaching side, So,

1049
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: as you know right now in I L. So, especially

1050
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: recruiting because I mean there as soon as you come

1051
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: to them, and how much can you give me, you know,

1052
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: And so recruiting the right players that want to be

1053
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: at that school, that want to play for that coach,

1054
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: you know, good character guys who are coachable. Like that's

1055
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: the tough part because then you got to add in

1056
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: the n I L too, especially if they're good enough.

1057
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 2: And as you know, now if you over six seven

1058
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: and you can barely walk, you get three hundred.

1059
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: Thousand at no big guys out there anymore.

1060
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: But honestly, once you get them, just making sure that

1061
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: they're staying out of trouble doing everything ain't they're supposed

1062
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: to do. You know, we got great coaches like uh,

1063
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: Mike Peggiez, Maurice Joseph, Alex Barlow who played that butler,

1064
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: and John Deebler and myself and coach Tony came from

1065
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks. And it's just like we got guys that

1066
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: had experience that know what it takes to get there.

1067
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: So the guys we got now they actually do want

1068
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: to listen because we've actually been there. But before, you know,

1069
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: you got guys that just always rolling their eyes don't

1070
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: want to listen to. You can't take any type of coaching.

1071
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: Like I remember the first year I was shooting with

1072
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: the guys and literally I tell them stop dipping, like

1073
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: you can save yourself a whole second by just catching it. Yeah, shooting,

1074
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: that's the difference between if you six', four that's the

1075
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: difference between you making the professional and not being shipped

1076
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: that half a. Second, Right so neithers SAY i didn't

1077
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: shoot with him. Again he never wanted to shoot with

1078
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: me after that BECAUSE i just literally all the times stopped,

1079
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: dipping just catch it and shoot Like and that's happened a,

1080
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: lot you. Know but you, know at this, age sometimes

1081
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: you don't want to change a whole kid's, game but

1082
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: just give them little things like.

1083
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: That that's that shouldn't change hell not all hell.

1084
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: No and as you, know as a, shooter you know

1085
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: that half a second of getting it off is a

1086
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: big different different.

1087
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 4: And he should already be ready knees bent as soon

1088
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 4: as they hit his. Hands that's the toughest thing right.

1089
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 4: Now the toughest thing is getting these kids to sprint

1090
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: to their. Spot and when you sprint to your, spot

1091
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 4: get down and. Ready yeah that, boss as soon as

1092
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 4: it come to your, hand you should be going up

1093
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 4: instead of getting. It Now i'm ducking down and Now

1094
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 4: i'm taking another, Step like, no that step should already

1095
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: be there.

1096
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: Waiting so little things like, that you, know trying to

1097
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: get the kids because they've done it for so long

1098
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: by all these trainers that you, know telling them how to,

1099
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: do and it's just one on. One it's not a team.

1100
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: Game they're not learning the little things like the one

1101
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: thing THAT i really do hate. THIS i don't see

1102
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: a lot of shooters when you get the, rebound sprint

1103
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: to that damn corner and putting the cones right.

1104
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 4: THERE i learned what, lane but it.

1105
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: Was a sprint and you know they jog and theyre

1106
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: always looking for the. Ball i'm, like sprint to that damn.

1107
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: Corner you're gonna open up, everything, man and most likely

1108
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: you're going to be the one getting the ball when

1109
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: he drives the. Lanes i'm want my son about that

1110
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: ship right, now thirteen years. Old, man and somebody get the.

1111
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: Rebound i'll tell, them get the fuck out the. Way

1112
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: everybody want to stand there and do like, This get

1113
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: your ass down to. Court get a ball.

1114
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 4: Space oh, gosh get get down the fucking court and

1115
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 4: give the basketball. Space the ball will find.

1116
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: You, yes you, know big biggs don't get that run

1117
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: down the middle pass anymore because they always Getting it's

1118
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: more guards getting that, now you, know joker getting the

1119
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: rebounded throwing.

1120
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 4: It you never see that. Big remember you used to

1121
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 4: see the big just running Down hell, yeah and try

1122
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: to post. Early you might get a quick. One nobody

1123
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: do that anymore, Now, no they ain't sprinting. Down so

1124
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 4: now you got to tell them why they got to

1125
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 4: sprint and then and then if they do it two

1126
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 4: times and they don't get the, ball you might. Stop

1127
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 4: so now you got to tell the other guys they

1128
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: look for.

1129
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 3: Him you know What i'm.

1130
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: Saying you gotta look for. Them you gotta look for him.

1131
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 4: Now so now if he get, one you keep the motherfucking.

1132
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 4: Engaged you know What i'm.

1133
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 3: Saying this is the ship you gotta deal.

1134
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: With. Man you gotta be a therapist and a fucking

1135
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 4: coach now sounds like a, coach you. KNOW i mean

1136
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 4: my last my last four or five years was this

1137
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: was my. Career you know What i'm, Saying understanding how

1138
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 4: to get the best version of of these, guys how

1139
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: you push their, buttons building those relationship ship's understanding like

1140
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: where you come, from what drives, You what type of

1141
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 4: kid are? You you know What i'm. Saying everybody's, different

1142
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 4: everybody's motivated. Different, man some of these, guys you can

1143
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: yell at them and you will keep them engaged and

1144
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 4: you'll get the most at. Him some of, them you

1145
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 4: yell at, him you fucking lose. Him some of the

1146
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 4: you gotta pull to the. Side some of them you

1147
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: can go at them in front of. Everybody some of,

1148
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: THEM i got to call you after practice and take

1149
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: you to lunch and talk about some. Shit whatever it

1150
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: takes to get the best out of these. Motherfuckers you

1151
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 4: gotta do, it because what's the other? Option losing, though

1152
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 4: that's not. OPTION i don't want. That, YEAH i don't

1153
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 4: want that. Option that should make me make bad. DECISIONS

1154
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 4: i get miserable WHEN i.

1155
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: Lose so we talked about it in the course of the,

1156
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: podcast about how important locker rooms are and and people

1157
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: in that locker room and obviously he you talk about

1158
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: how you're scared of him and how he was and

1159
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: there's there's actually mayor of A, miami but we all

1160
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: know who the real mayor Of miami. Is, sure give

1161
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 2: me a funny story about this motherfucker here.

1162
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 4: Ship this ain't no funny. Story.

1163
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: Crazy So Roger mason is on the, team shout out to.

1164
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: Him he's justraated with his doctorate or.

1165
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 2: Something but Grats, bud he.

1166
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: Was he was having dinner with his wife and the

1167
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: whole entire restaurant come get. Ransacked people get under the,

1168
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: table put your, phone and while they're on top of the,

1169
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: table still from the whole entire, restaurant out that motherfucker come.

1170
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: In he tell us in the locker. Room the next

1171
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: day it is. Motherfucker ud stand up, like, hey what

1172
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: restaurant was?

1173
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 4: That what? Part? OKAY i got you two days, later

1174
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 4: had this ship back right. Here everybody, like how do

1175
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 4: you even start that that.

1176
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: Restaurant it's the funny thing IS i remember that story

1177
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: because he called, me AND i actually the one that

1178
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: got it back From, yeah he.

1179
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: Got it back for. Me he got it back from.

1180
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 4: Me let me tell you, something, Dog, honestly when people

1181
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 4: come to this, CITY i feel, like when you come

1182
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 4: to this city and you play for The miami, HERE

1183
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 4: i have an. Obligation one you my, brother when you

1184
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 4: step in that locker, room and TWO i have an

1185
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 4: obligation to make sure that you straight and you're safe

1186
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 4: out here in the. Streets so for, me that ship

1187
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: fucked with. Me that somebody that happened on my watch

1188
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 4: to one of my, teammates you know What i'm. Saying

1189
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: SO i made it personally to make SURE i figured

1190
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 4: out how the fuck it. HAPPENED i found out who

1191
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: got the. Ship that ain't for me to, tell BUT

1192
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: i made sure personally to get this ship back from.

1193
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 4: Him so shout out. RIGHT i did the same thing

1194
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 4: for D wade, too my. Rookie if somebody stole his

1195
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 4: truck and stole his chain out of, truck AND i

1196
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: told him like, THIS i find out where your truck.

1197
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: Ast you want your ship? Back he, said, yeah you

1198
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,479
Speaker 4: want a. SHIP i got his. Chain that's that, simple.

1199
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: MAN i.

1200
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: Appreciate that's WHY i ain't.

1201
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 4: Leaving when people talk about why you ain't go playing other, cities,

1202
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 4: MAN i can't go to no other city and get

1203
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 4: people stolen ship. BACK i can only do that In.

1204
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 4: Miami that's, why that's why you not leave.

1205
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: IT i ain't.

1206
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 3: LEAVING i can get everybody stolen ship back TO i stay.

1207
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 4: Here that's WHY i was.

1208
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: Scared of this.

1209
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 4: Mother that's the mayor Of miami right.

1210
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: HERE i love.

1211
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 3: It that's Day dad. Stories, man my kids called me Date.

1212
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 3: Dad that's the. Ship they don't know about that Day County.

1213
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 4: Dad they don't know. That they don't know that. Guy

1214
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: you don't take him down there every once in a,

1215
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 4: while every now and. Then, MAN i take him down

1216
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 4: there every now and. Then but WHEN i get in that,

1217
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 4: move my kids get a little.

1218
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 2: Nervous so you're coaching, Now but before you started, coaching

1219
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 2: you had that last year here you, guys obviously doesn't

1220
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: end up like you always wanted. To what was where

1221
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: was your head out when that season was? Over and

1222
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 2: where were what was like the next the next journey for?

1223
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: You what were you thinking? ABOUT i was thinking about another.

1224
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 2: OPPORTUNITY i thought that was at least healthy enough to

1225
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: to at least be able to get another contract and

1226
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: kind of move. On but it didn't end up happening like.

1227
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: That BUT i do want to tell this story. Though

1228
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: so right after we get back because we lost In San, Antonio,

1229
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: yeah we laying got exit meetings the next. DAY i

1230
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 2: think spos just wanted to get him over. WITH i

1231
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: was one of the first, ones probably like eight in the.

1232
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: MORNING i lived across the street at nine, hundred SO

1233
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: i come over. Early i'm still in workout. Mode i'm

1234
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: gonna go work.

1235
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: Out Motherfucker brown in there seven in the morning with

1236
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: his mom working out and we just lost the.

1237
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: Final AND i, know for, you that's the.

1238
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 4: Ship people don't.

1239
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: Know that's the ship in the.

1240
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 4: Morning on the, versa what Is. Mama i'm, like that's,

1241
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 4: crazy that's. Crazy that's the. Ship people don't. Know AND

1242
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 4: i never heard that. Story BUT i talk about all the,

1243
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 4: time just understanding how to be a professional. PROFESSIONALISM i tell,

1244
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 4: people if practice started at, Ten brown was probably the ad.

1245
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 4: Seven he then rode the fucking ten speed and it's

1246
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: tights to. Practice he doesn'et got, that. Motherfucker he done

1247
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 4: worked out in the weight, room he done got his

1248
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: shots up by the time nine o'clock coming around here

1249
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 4: on the, table getting take ready to start. Practice he

1250
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 4: done had a whole fucking two hour workout day. Already

1251
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 4: you know What i'm, Saying, like the way he, prepared

1252
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 4: there's no coincidence and it ain't by a fucking accident

1253
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 4: that he performed the way he did in The olympics

1254
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 4: at forty forty years.

1255
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: Old, bro at forty let's just get it for a second, here,

1256
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: man forty years, old, bro and he's still doing. It

1257
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: but now it's like for everyone at, home, like now

1258
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: you start hearing enough of these, stories it's all it

1259
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: all adds. Up it's not like you, said it's not a. Coincidence, no,

1260
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: dude that dude. WAS i, MEAN i always make fun

1261
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 2: of he last. Me he's a test two, baby there's

1262
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 2: no way he's. Real but the reality, situation, man is

1263
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: like he's taking advantage of everything and put everything into.

1264
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 4: It.

1265
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: Man remember that time the motherfucker rode his, ankle rolled

1266
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: all the way to the, ground to the, GROUND i

1267
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: ain't gonna touch the. Ground i'm, like, yeah he got

1268
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: a week or, two motherfucker tied his shoes, up tired

1269
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: and got. Better what the fuck is?

1270
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: That?

1271
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 3: Like what the fuck is?

1272
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: That?

1273
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 3: Like how does that?

1274
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 4: Happen like whost does roll out ankle to the ground like.

1275
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: That she can kind us out for a week or

1276
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: two at least a month tied issue and got.

1277
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 2: Better BUT i do want to touch on, though because

1278
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: Unlike ud over there we talked about on our podcast a,

1279
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: lot like he got to land his own. Plane he

1280
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: got to finish when he wanted, to, right and that

1281
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: doesn't have that happens for probably one percent of THE

1282
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: nba basketb, players professional, athletes or even people that worked

1283
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: in the workfield.

1284
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 4: Rarely sunshine on the dog gass. Everything you know What i'm,

1285
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 4: Saying like when when you got there and there was

1286
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: no other?

1287
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: Options or what what? Happened why did why did you

1288
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 2: ultimately give? Up why did you not give? Up why'd

1289
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: you ultimately retire from the?

1290
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 1: GAME i ended up going To, china and, UH i

1291
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: felt LIKE i was. Good you, know it was a

1292
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: million dollars tax. FREE i was like a couple of six.

1293
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: Months i'm over, there first, man tax?

1294
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: Free six? Months what city day?

1295
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 4: Is?

1296
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: Hey hold up.

1297
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: A little call your?

1298
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 4: Age hey?

1299
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: Listen ship for six?

1300
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 4: MONTHS i go let that thing, ride you, know? SHIP

1301
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 4: i put like, THIS i was over in trying to

1302
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 4: smoke in a pack of the DAY i was. SMOKING

1303
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 4: i was smoking cigarettes right before the. GAME i was

1304
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 4: in the stressed stressed, cigarettes stressed he.

1305
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: Shot they got the bold school cigarettes with no filter.

1306
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 4: Them. Joints was different over there because cigarette gone. Ship

1307
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 4: you know, WHAT i take that. Back don't call. Me

1308
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 4: don't call me man smoking. Cigarettes don't call. Me ALL

1309
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 4: i can see is him in the bathroom stall. Seven

1310
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 4: that would have been. Me that would have Been black

1311
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 4: Of mind. Wine hundreds that would have Been black Of

1312
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 4: mind wine Tipsl wood, Tip black Of mind.

1313
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: Wine messed up.

1314
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 4: Part you're gonna have time in the game trying to go,

1315
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 4: pee and the coaches being that motherfuckers just.

1316
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 3: Cigarettes through.

1317
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 4: That don't to use the bathroom on the left handed

1318
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 4: cigarette and you already, know.

1319
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: Don't worry about to hit. THIS i take care of that.

1320
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 3: Now but WHEN i did.

1321
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: Get over there the first preseason, GAME i fucking broke my, thumb.

1322
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: Damn SO i was out for a. Month it was

1323
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: just like after that, year it was like it takes

1324
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: a lot for me to even play in the, game

1325
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: for me to even get ready to play in the,

1326
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: Game and at that, TIME i was just Like i'm

1327
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: about to get, Married i'm about to have a child

1328
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: AND i want to be.

1329
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 3: HOME i want to be. There so, yeah so.

1330
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 4: Kids my, daughter, Yes London, odin lovely baby, girl third.

1331
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Grade she's tall as, hell seven going on twenty. FIVE

1332
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: i have to, say but that's my. Girl she was

1333
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: my day tailed, wedding my guy And Mark titus's wedding this.

1334
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 3: Weekend so that's. Beautiful that's.

1335
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 4: BEAUTIFUL i mean when you talk, about you, know stuff like,

1336
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 4: that and you talk about the things that you've, overcome

1337
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 4: so it's definitely a fucking success. Story. DOG i appreciate

1338
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 4: you for coming. On but for, ME i just want to,

1339
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 4: say you know What i'm, SAYING i appreciate you also

1340
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 4: for what you contributed to our. Team you know What i'm.

1341
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 4: Saying we talked about having good guys in the locker.

1342
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: Room we talk about having a good locker. Room you

1343
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 4: know What i'm. Saying you came, In you was a good.

1344
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 4: Teammate we enjoyed ourselves off the basketball. Court you had good,

1345
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 4: energy you brought it every fucking. Day you made us.

1346
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 4: Better you made me. Better SO i appreciate all that

1347
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 4: shit you you. Do, MAN i appreciate you coming on the.

1348
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 4: Show at the end of the, day if you would have,

1349
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 4: stayed then we wouldn't have kept with this motherfucker when it.

1350
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 4: Came SO i wouldn't mind you stayed a little bit

1351
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 4: longer BECAUSE i could have did without him taking my.

1352
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 3: Money, yeah, yeah he took my.

1353
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: Money, well you know, WHAT i don't want to hear

1354
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: all that. Shit but on the ogs we get we

1355
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: asked fan questions with little.

1356
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: Fans, man, listen don't ask no dumb shit.

1357
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 2: Fans well that's probably not don't BE dm and me

1358
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 2: complaining we love you, fans but there are some there

1359
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: are some some. Doozies we kind of touched on this

1360
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: a little, bit but what was experience like playing With

1361
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: Lebron james d w obviously two of the elites in this?

1362
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: Game what was what was that experience?

1363
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 4: Like for?

1364
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: Me it was amazing to be on the court with

1365
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: guys that you, know just, dominated you, know and it

1366
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: just came so easy for. Us, so you, know just

1367
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: learning how to play off those, guys which you, know

1368
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: it kind of brought back to the reason Why i'm.

1369
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: Coaching everybody can't Be lebron in the. Way we got

1370
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: to learn how to get in the dunker, spot get

1371
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: in that, corner, like let them boys do what they.

1372
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: Do but it was amazing because the one THING i always, say,

1373
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: too like they used to every week we.

1374
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 4: Had a gift in our.

1375
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: Lockers that's that's all it. Was they were great teammates

1376
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: and they always gave us. Something it was always. There

1377
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: my favorite thing About. Bron we was IN dc and

1378
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: we was out and everybody had the little section. House

1379
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: i'm kind of, big SO i walked over to the

1380
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 1: bar by. Myself that's WHAT i. Do i'm just sitting

1381
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: there AND i just looking at ALL i, SEE i

1382
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: See rich and THEN i just see the move And bron,

1383
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: walk good go.

1384
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 4: And you JUST i was, like AND i like that

1385
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i just tried to stay out the, way. Man

1386
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 4: so that was cool that you came over there and

1387
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 4: checked on. Me.

1388
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: Man AND i, mean.

1389
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 4: Hands, down when it talks about one of the best

1390
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: teammates That i've, HAD i, Mean bron's up there at

1391
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 4: the top of the.

1392
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 2: List the funny thing, is and that's why obviously he's

1393
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 2: been so. Successful that's why our heat teams were so

1394
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 2: successful is because our best teammates were our best. Players,

1395
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean we were ALL i felt like our

1396
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: locker room was. Awesome we had great. Teammates but you

1397
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: talk about it like you, Said Lebron james one of

1398
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: the best. Teammates, yes D wade as Well Chris. BOSH

1399
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: i mean those. Guys the one THING i always took

1400
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 2: away from it WHEN i played those BECAUSE i came

1401
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: from different situations as. Well like when you came in,

1402
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: there it was so fun the lace up your shoes

1403
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: knowing you're probably gonna win the, game and they gave us,

1404
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 2: that you know WHAT i? Mean like that was that

1405
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: was dope to me because BEFORE i started off In, october, like,

1406
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: damn lacing these shoes, UP i KNOW i ain't gonna

1407
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: win on. Championship you walked in, There you're, like no

1408
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: championship or. Bus that's a great feeling the.

1409
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 4: Head they definitely gave us. That but goddamn, it they

1410
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 4: gave we gave him something. Too, now, coach we you

1411
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 4: know we did our. Job we don't need To, yeah

1412
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 4: we did our. Job next, question favorite center and power

1413
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: forward in THE nba right?

1414
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: Now uh my? Favorite i'm GOING i bet It's joker

1415
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 2: of that because you already said it one.

1416
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 4: TIME i did Say joker BUT i Like.

1417
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 3: JOEL i was just gonna, Say joe Love. Joker, yeah

1418
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 3: this is a conversation for a barber.

1419
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: Shot But Joel.

1420
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: Joker, Uh i'm Going joel Because i'm. Black goddamn, it Big,

1421
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: joker the, People god damn.

1422
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 4: IT i love them.

1423
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: Both i'm not gonna lie. There they're just both great.

1424
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: Players BUT i Think joel was more my. Speed he

1425
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: had dunk on your ass when you want to in

1426
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 1: the words Of, shock he need to do that.

1427
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 4: More but it's jump.

1428
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: Shot LIKE i didn't watch The serbia, game the Third serbia,

1429
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: game AND i didn't realize he turned it on towards the.

1430
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: End he, did so he.

1431
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: DID i was watching the highlights on the plane over,

1432
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: here so it WAS i was, LIKE i was, like

1433
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 1: and for some, reason NOW i used to be called

1434
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: bron but now they called Me joel WHENEVER i take

1435
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: my hair out and got my eyes from and THEN

1436
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: i was In chicago last week AND i had my

1437
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: little braids and they was calling Me Andre.

1438
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 4: Drummer that was, like what the? Fuck we don't look

1439
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 4: like it could be all three who call you that white.

1440
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 4: People they're just saying always looking like that's that. Bullshit

1441
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 4: just as you, know it's actually mostly white people look

1442
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 4: like actually hot white.

1443
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 3: People it's more black people who black.

1444
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 4: People, YES i swear to, god they Were.

1445
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: Drummond what that's.

1446
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 4: Crazy some time people walk up to me and they

1447
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 4: asked me for. Autograph immediately asked, him do you know my?

1448
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 4: Name if you don't know my, name you got to keep.

1449
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 4: Walking you just see a tall black man with tattoos

1450
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: and braids and asked for a fucking. Autograph what they

1451
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 4: call that. Stereotype that's that bush. Ship you don't even

1452
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 4: know WHO i. Am you just see somebody else ask for.

1453
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 4: Autograph you done brought your ass over here because you

1454
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 4: see the brother with braids and he.

1455
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: Tall you know WHAT i.

1456
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 4: DO i could be a.

1457
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: Scammer he'd probably be PRETTY i.

1458
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: COULD i could be a SCAM i could be a.

1459
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 3: Scammer what is.

1460
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: Your best memory from your time in college? Basketball? Uh

1461
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: my best.

1462
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 3: Memory i'll tell you what his worst.

1463
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 4: WAS i know what it. WAS i love that.

1464
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: MEMORY i enjoyed playing in the national championship. GAME a

1465
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: lot of people don't get. OPPORTUNITY i hated. IT i

1466
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: love the way you spent that and THAT i like.

1467
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: That that was that was a good. Spin that was

1468
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: a good spin.

1469
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: Man, no, ship there was one DUNK i got in

1470
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: That national championship game THAT i tried to kick every

1471
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: last floor the. Motherfucker BUT i will say this this

1472
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: game man LIKE i was actually proud of. MYSELF i will,

1473
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: say you Got Joe Kim. Richards yes in most, States,

1474
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: yes all the twenty five and.

1475
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 4: Twelve it was.

1476
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: Loaded it was, loaded twenty five and.

1477
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 3: Twelve, yeah he still remember his.

1478
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: Numbers and by the, way on the cover Of College

1479
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: basketball the, Game, yeah oh, yeah by the way needs

1480
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: to come. Back College football's coming back to syear College football's.

1481
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 4: Back.

1482
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't know what's going. ON i know that.

1483
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 4: Now that WAS i was gonna put a college.

1484
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: Kid, yeah, yeah you got to.

1485
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 4: Pay they got. PAID i got paid after SO i

1486
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 4: did you BECAUSE i went to the.

1487
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: League that Was, yeah that was the Whole that was

1488
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: the whole reason shut, down.

1489
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 4: Right, YEAH i might have to start back playing video.

1490
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 4: GAMES i heard that college. FOOTBALL i get THE.

1491
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: La college base on a couple of college basketball's dope.

1492
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: TOO i used to be nice killing you play video. Games,

1493
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: no because Of Mike. Conley another reason why you what

1494
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 4: the Hell mike did you on the video? Game?

1495
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: Man he was just so good at.

1496
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 4: Everything, so Like i'm coming, In i'm like the seventh.

1497
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 4: Grade i'm rooming With. Mike he playing the video game

1498
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 4: like it was Game. Cast so he playing PLAYING Nfl.

1499
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 4: Blitz i'm, like DAMN Nfl, blitch what you? RANKED i

1500
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 4: didn't even know they had right, Here i'm ranked third

1501
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 4: in the, world.

1502
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 3: In the whole.

1503
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 4: World. Bright motherfucker's good at every day's.

1504
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 2: Crazy.

1505
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: Damn SO i just stopped. Playing, LOOK i don't even

1506
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: want to. PLAY i want to WATCH. Tv your game cut? Up,

1507
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: yeah look that game and the horse you rode in.

1508
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 4: UP i got a. Question do you hope to be

1509
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 4: a head coach or do you hope, to you, know

1510
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 4: continue to work up the ladder because you've worked your

1511
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 4: way from the. Bottom do you want to keep going

1512
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 4: and coaching or you want to kind of stay where

1513
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 4: you are and stay. Comfortable i'm not going to stay.

1514
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: COMFORTABLE i feel like that never stay comfortable for, sure

1515
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: never knowing what's going to. Happen but aspiration is always

1516
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: to be a head. COACH i want to be the

1517
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: guy in. CHARGE i want to be able to, say you,

1518
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: know make the, schedule that's what's. Up and you, KNOW

1519
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: i want to be able to lead these. Guys that's

1520
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: what leader program to the highest pointing can possibly. Get

1521
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: but more, IMPORTANTLY i want these guys to make, money experience, life.

1522
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 3: Just see the world from a game that we grew up.

1523
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 3: Loving the way the game is And i'll tell you,

1524
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 3: this the way the game is going. Now they're bringing

1525
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: in and the coaches are starting to look more like

1526
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: guys that played the game and guys that are relatable

1527
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 3: to these. Guys it's not more so the analytical guys

1528
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 3: getting the jobs, anymore which is. Fine BUT i call

1529
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 3: them analytics because the ship means nothing to. Me it

1530
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 3: means nothing to.

1531
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 4: ME i call. Them they call the, analytics they call them.

1532
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 4: ANALYTICS i call them athletics because it means nothing to.

1533
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 4: Me it means absolutely fucking nothing to. Me you have

1534
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 4: to have a feel for the. Game for, me that's

1535
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 4: WHAT i go off the. FIELD i don't go off

1536
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 4: no mo fucking piece of paper that tell me in this,

1537
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 4: situation this is a fucking, percentage because what percentage of

1538
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 4: heart do this motherfucker?

1539
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 3: Guy is that on a piece of?

1540
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 4: Paper do you got an analytics for how much heart

1541
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 4: this motherfucker, got because if you ain't got no fucking,

1542
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 4: heart then we can't win with this Mother so at

1543
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 4: the end of the, day that shit means fucking nothing to.

1544
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 4: Me it's coming board to guys that played the, game

1545
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 4: guys that have been in the locker, room guys that are,

1546
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 4: relatable and guys that can speak the language of the

1547
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 4: guys that they're. Coaching that's what it's moving. Too SO

1548
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 4: i think you got the hell of our, opportunity.

1549
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: Right but the.

1550
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: Analytics do, help you, know just putting the numbers out

1551
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: there for the guy because it does make.

1552
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: Sense and so So i'm gonna touch on the. Ball

1553
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: i'm gonna blunt boll, jet But i'm WITH i think

1554
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: who things can be.

1555
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 4: TRUE i think that was the greatest of forcing somebody.

1556
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 4: Right but if you gonna base everything off fucking, ANALYTICS.

1557
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: I think me and you have very similar AND i

1558
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 2: think you're in there. Too like analytics definitely play a

1559
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: part in a, role but analytics should confirm your eyes,

1560
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: yes and your and your understanding, Right like too much

1561
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 2: is made now in my opinion on analytics and only,

1562
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 2: analytics WHERE i gotta you get to pass the eye. Test,

1563
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 2: first and THEN i gotta know who you, are and

1564
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 2: then analytics confirm.

1565
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 4: THEM i, mean let's just put the ship out there

1566
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 4: and just be. Real analytics allow coaches to not play

1567
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 4: some people they don't want to play exactly the pull

1568
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 4: that piece of throw that shit in front of your

1569
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 4: face and make you seem like the worst MOTHERFUCKER i

1570
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 4: stepped on the basketball court just because they didn't want

1571
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 4: to play you.

1572
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 2: Anyway and this is THE og advice of. Today that's

1573
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: the truth and be.

1574
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 4: Honest the biggest thing for analytics is coach can use

1575
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 4: that ship not to play your. Ass guess, what it's

1576
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 4: full other motherfucker on the court with. You but you're

1577
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 4: gonna bring out my? Analytics how about the other four

1578
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 4: motherfuckers that was on the court with me WHEN i

1579
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 4: was out. There so it's usually just used to not

1580
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 4: play the motherfucker you don't want to play.

1581
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: Anyway, Well i'll say. This you, know analytics they, say

1582
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: don't take it long. Too but THEN i go look

1583
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: at Every All star what is their strong suit mid range?

1584
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 4: Game so what are we talking?

1585
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 3: About?

1586
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: Man you, mean ktis not supposed to shoot this long,

1587
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: Too but.

1588
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 4: What are we talking? About? Listen you don't get me,

1589
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 4: started because that ship was almost the death of. Me

1590
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 4: they took out the mid range almost for. ME i

1591
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 4: didn't mind when it took the. Medio no more shot

1592
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 4: if we're gonna just be fully.

1593
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: Transparent when they took the, MEDIOUT i was kind of

1594
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: cool with. It more of shots with you know slides step.

1595
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 2: THREE i like. THAT i like that.

1596
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 3: Ship you see THAT i was almost dead mid RANGE

1597
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 3: i almost killed. Me, now you, know, nowadays them paychecks

1598
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 3: a little. Longer there's a little more money out here

1599
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 3: now every now and then to make me even want

1600
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 3: to get my old lass up and give it another.

1601
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,919
Speaker 3: Run you ever sit home and look at it like, boy.

1602
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 4: WELL i put it like.

1603
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 1: This the YEAR i retired was the year fucking Timoth

1604
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: Fay miles GoF no disrespect got that fifty, meal AND

1605
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: i wanted to kill everybody in the fucking.

1606
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 4: WORLD i hated.

1607
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: LIFE i was.

1608
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 4: Depressed like if they threw him fifty, Mel i'm, Like,

1609
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 4: GOD i needed to dos be on the. Team that's twenty.

1610
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 3: EASY i think that might have been about it for,

1611
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 3: Him but that was last. Year he didn't play no.

1612
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 3: More that Damn oh that.

1613
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 4: Hurts it hurts my heart right now a little empty

1614
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 4: WHEN i talk about. It no disrespect to the, fake

1615
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 4: but god, DAMN i couldn't do me another twenty able

1616
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 4: to do some real financial literacy that. Was that was.

1617
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 3: Killer you had something to do with? That why you

1618
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 3: ain't take his money like you took? Mine who? Had

1619
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 3: why you ain't take his money like you took?

1620
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 4: Mine maybe you would have had to take half the

1621
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 4: motherfucking money he was supposed to.

1622
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 2: Get you know who had A i to deal with? That,

1623
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 2: yeah a lot of people paid chance.

1624
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: Coach oh, yeah you know how that?

1625
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: Goes moscow was good for a. Second you know, what

1626
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: it was a Perfect it was a perfect storm for. Him,

1627
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: though in fairness to, him that was a year all

1628
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 2: that new money came in FROM tv and no one

1629
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 2: knew how to spend, it and people were just throwing

1630
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 2: the money. OUT i, mean there's a bunch Of we

1631
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: ain't gonna call everybody, out but there was a handful of.

1632
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: Deals that's, Side, like what the? Fuck you can't blame the.

1633
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 4: Players you got to Blame jackie.

1634
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: Promot but that does, Hurt, no don't it does.

1635
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 4: Hurt you know WHY i got?

1636
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 3: Paid you know why they got?

1637
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 4: Paid asalytics at athletics got that badlets vocabulary athletics that

1638
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 4: got that mother. Paid that's that's what made you. Mad

1639
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 4: it definitely did shout out to him man.

1640
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: Graduation, yeah that's the one, thing, Man, LIKE i want

1641
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 2: people to, understand like there's never a. Hate we're proud of, him,

1642
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 2: sure proud of, him but it's like you're what you're

1643
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: saying is, like, yo if he got that, Gosh I'M

1644
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 2: i played six.

1645
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: YEARS i probably made about twenty four, mil AND i

1646
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: cut that ship in half because of.

1647
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 4: Tax, yes so let's.

1648
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: Go let's just go to show you number one picks

1649
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: now is fifty five sixty number one. PICK i know hanging,

1650
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: THERE i didn't want. TO i don't want to bring

1651
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 2: your day down. Though i'm not that kind of. Guy

1652
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 2: i'm an.

1653
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 3: UPLIFTER i got a good. Question how much did that?

1654
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 1: Go?

1655
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 2: Today?

1656
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 4: First ogi's?

1657
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 2: OUT i want, well g o, man we really appreciate

1658
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: you coming in dog and proud of everything you're doing.

1659
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: And what you've been. Through before we, GO i do

1660
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: want to shout out a couple of. THINGS i work

1661
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: for a company called Edu. Corps your financial literacy Comb.

1662
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 4: Yeah before you, finish, now we did read, that And i'm.

1663
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 4: Sorry i'm happy you brought that. Up AND i want

1664
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 4: to touch on. That all the things that you're doing

1665
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 4: now and the. Foundation touched on that foundation and everything

1666
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 4: that you're working with and all the work that you're

1667
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 4: doing off the basketball court outside of coaching coming on that,

1668
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 4: Too SO i can talk about that Though i've already.

1669
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 4: Started but, yeah just you, know WHEN i, retired you,

1670
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 4: know you look at that bank account and, like hold,

1671
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 4: ON i THOUGHT i made a little bit more than,

1672
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 4: this you, know and, uh sometimes when you know it's every.

1673
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 3: Two, weeks that check is right there all the nights

1674
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 3: at The Strip club In.

1675
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 4: Portland, yeah, yeah shout Out chain of fry all that,

1676
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 4: money paying them all that money to put that ship back.

1677
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 3: On took all your, money putting all that money just

1678
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 3: to put back.

1679
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: On but you, know just getting athletes to pay attention

1680
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: to the, money you, know like when the checks coming,

1681
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: in you feel like it's coming SO i don't need

1682
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: to see. It you need to understand where it's coming

1683
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: from and where it's. Going who got access to?

1684
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 4: Us you?

1685
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: Know who teaching just kids to understand the basics because

1686
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: a lot of these kids are getting money, nowadays but

1687
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 1: they don't have nobody in their family with any type

1688
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: of financial.

1689
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 3: Background so just just being really.

1690
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: Engaged AND i love the company as your corps and

1691
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: working with for about four years. Now and always sell

1692
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,799
Speaker 1: is education and then an, audit which is your personal

1693
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: education of your own. Finances if you guys can go

1694
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: check out educort dot. Com doing great. Things and Again

1695
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: i'm coaching A Butler university men's basketball. Program But project

1696
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: forty four is a blood. Registry Guy Andrew smith played

1697
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: At butler and he end up passing. Away so Basically

1698
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: project forty four helps registering people to blood donations because

1699
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 1: a lot of, us ESPECIALLY us black, people don't do.

1700
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: It so when people come with these you, know rare,

1701
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 1: diseases it's just, like, okay we got to wait and.

1702
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: See they might even get blood from out the. Country

1703
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: sometimes out the country a lot more. People you, know

1704
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: when you get YOUR, id you. Register you, know over

1705
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 1: here in this country we do not do that require.

1706
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: That So project forty four is doing a great. JOB

1707
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: A Kid again is a big. One i'm a celebrity

1708
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: ambassador for A kid. Again basically taking families with terminal

1709
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: illnesses and having adventures or different little things to get

1710
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: the family's mind off of just everything they're going through

1711
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: being the hospital all day for. Months so we'll do

1712
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: a little fun adventures, that you, know just like an amusement,

1713
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: park or like a couple of nights, ago we had

1714
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: A Nashville night where they brought in singers From nashville

1715
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: that you, know wrote for a bunch of. People it's

1716
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: just a nice little. Dinner it's just something to just

1717
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: get the family, in the kids minds off of. That

1718
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: and then one thing that it's going to be coming.

1719
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: UP i can't really talk about a, lot but it's

1720
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: Called nil For. Life it's something that we're working. Towards

1721
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, big but right NOW i can't really

1722
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: talk about, it BUT i did when to tease it

1723
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: a little.

1724
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 4: Bit i'm gonna be.

1725
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: A part of, that And i'm very excited about, that

1726
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: helping helping these athletes not just make the money while

1727
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 1: they're in college last and give them something that's gonna

1728
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: last for the rest of their.

1729
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: Lives, man, well big dog keep dominating. Brothers all that

1730
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 2: stuff is, Awesome, man keep appreciate the Real. LISTEN i,

1731
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 2: KNOW i know it might not have went the way you.

1732
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 2: Play BUT i think it went the way it was

1733
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 2: supposed to. Go you know What i'm. SAYING i think

1734
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: that you found your. CALLING i think you found your.

1735
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 4: WHY i think with the opportunities that you have now

1736
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 4: and the things that in front of, you ultimately you'll

1737
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 4: impact more, people you know What i'm. Saying SO i

1738
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 4: commend you for finding, that, Bro so thanks for coming,

1739
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 4: On thanks for doing what you're doing and being an

1740
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 4: inspiration to not only myself and my, generation you know

1741
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 4: What i'm. Saying but the young guys that's following you

1742
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 4: and watching, you, DOG i appreciate, you real.

1743
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: ONE i appreciate you. Guys you KNOW i grew up

1744
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 1: following you him first one with.

1745
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 4: The little the little.

1746
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 3: Hairtip, yeah, yeah, yeah you do out.

1747
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 4: THERE i tell, YOU i was really scared of, this.

1748
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: BUT i.

1749
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,959
Speaker 4: Cared and that's the one THING i didn't know that motherfucking.

1750
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 4: CARES i appreciate, you, Guy.

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: Oh. GEEZ i appreciate. Y'all