1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the best podcast available Training campetition. Here are 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: your hosts, Jason Gibbs, Andrew Gribble and Nick Shook, and 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: we welcome you into Barria and the Dog Bowl. It's 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: a Friday, August two, two thousand nineteen, Day eight of 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen Browns Training Camp. Jason Gibbs, Andrew 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Gribble and Nick Shook coming up on the program today. 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time talking training camp this 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Today we'll go a little shorter on the training camp 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: talk because Phil Dawson will join us in studio and 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: we could not be more excited. Phil Dawson announcing his 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: retirement today, signing a one day contract as a member 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns, one of the more celebrated Cleveland 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Browns since a fantastic retirement ceremony went out the way 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: that he would have wanted to go out, and we're 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: looking forward to having him in studio. Coming up in 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: just a little bit. But a quick takeaway from each 17 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: of you on what you heard today from Phil Dawson. 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he just hit all the right notes and 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things where you you 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: go into a retirement, uh press conference is not really 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: known to expect, to expect, but just like Joe Thomas 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: is in very different fashion, it came in as prepared 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: as he always was for his kicking. I mean, this 24 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: is something he took. I think this meant a lot 25 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: to him to retire as a Brown, maybe more so 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: than some of these other one day contracts you see 27 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: around the league. Uh. And probably it was a decision 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: he made back in his final days with the Browns 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 1: that he was going to come back here and retire Brown. 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: And I think uh really heartfelt an emotional uh speech 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: that he made. And Uh, it's just it's been kind 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: of a good The week isn't even over that we 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: got Tomorrows Orange Brown Scrimmage, but a good end to 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: a week that has been all about different generations of 35 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: alumni moments for the Browns. Yeah. I think it's really 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: rare that that you spanned so many generations and a 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: large swath of Browns fans. You know, I feel like 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: sometimes and and maybe this is because you and I 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: Andrew are kind of from this generation that has not 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: been able to enjoy success with this franchise unfortunately, both 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: with the move and the struggles that came from being 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: an expansion franchise and and those kind of just you know, 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: having snowballed for quite some time. Um and and yet 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I feel like this is the first time we can 45 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: kind of bring all those people together and maybe some 46 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: of the people from the younger generation get an education 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: on the Browns grades of the past, because, believe it 48 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: or not, folks, for the first time in my conscious 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: football uh watching life, the Browns are no longer a 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: team that you sit back and get laughed at for 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: being a fan of. People want to be a fan 52 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns. I think this is a great 53 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: way to really enter that season by honoring the past 54 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: and every generation, and especially with Phil being you know, 55 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: one of those best three players from the most recent 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: era of Brown's football. So so a really nice thing 57 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: and especially really great for him to come back, especially 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: since you know when he left it wasn't on the 59 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: best term. So you know, he he mentioned too, hey, 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: you know when I left Brown's fans supporting me, you 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: know when I was with the forty nine, which is 62 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: is special and I'm I'm glad he got to reconnect 63 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: with with those people and just you know him him 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: saying there's nowhere else that I've felt the way I 65 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: did and was treated the way I was. Like Cleveland, 66 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: and he spent four years in San Francisco. I mean 67 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't like he was in two other cities for 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: a couple of coffee. I mean, he spent some substantial 69 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: time and nothing like this place. And it's just you 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: see guys like him, and you see guys like Joe Thomas, 71 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: and you're like, man, if you just if we just 72 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: could have done something for you, for everything that you 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: did for us. Just it's one of those big, big 74 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: what ifs uh that it's not necessarily gonna haunt anybody. 75 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: It's just part of our history. Fans are gonna love 76 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: you when at one point in your career you are 77 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: the most accurate, active kicker in the NFL. I mean, 78 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: and that's who he was when when this team strology 79 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: get the ball in the end zone time and time again, 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: Phil Dawson was always there to make sure that three 81 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: points or an extra point when they did get the 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: end zone was on the board. And he was as 83 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: automatic and as consistent as they came. And fans really 84 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: appreciated that because as many faces and names changed and 85 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: and and guys came in and out of the door. 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: Phil was always there and he was he was committed 87 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: to a team that not a lot of people may 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: be desired at the time, and they respect him and 89 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: appreciation for that. Gribbs, A real quick takeaway from each 90 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: one of you, and then we'll get into a little 91 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: bit more training camp today after we after we're joined 92 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: by Phil Dawson. Take Away from camp you're talking about 93 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: take away from camp, Well, Phil Dawson was there and 94 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: he got to see I think the best play I've 95 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: seen in camp so far, and that was Mack Wilson 96 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: making a diving interception, uh near the end of practice 97 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: during I don't know what the situation was at that time, 98 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: but it put an abrupt halt to that second team offenses. 99 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: Drive makes a diving interception that even would have been 100 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: impressive by a dB, gets right up and runs it 101 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: back down the field. I mean, we've talked about this 102 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: guy as being an athletic linebacker. I think that was 103 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: the thing he always had the traits, didn't exactly have 104 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: the experience you want to come out of college, while 105 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: he fell to the fifth round, but that those are 106 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: plays you make to to make an impression. And I'm 107 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: not saying that he's you know, pushing Kirksey and Schobert 108 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: for snaps just yet, but it gives you some hope 109 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: that you might have gotten another steel in the fifth 110 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: round two years in a a row linebacker. I thought the 111 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: timing was really good personally of staying on the sideline. 112 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: Earlier in practice with Jim Donovan just kind of discussing 113 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: some of the young guys in this roster, and you know, 114 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: he asked about Talkie Talkie and Wilson, and I said, 115 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: I really loved Taki. I think he's, you know, done 116 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: a great job so far, and he's a vocal leader 117 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: of that second team defense. Wilson I'm not so sure 118 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: on yet. And then sure enough, fifteen minutes later, he 119 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: makes the best play of camp. And not only was 120 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: the interception great, but getting up and then running it 121 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: down the field for a pick six is really what 122 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: topped it off. And I think put the exclamation point. 123 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: And you know, when I was talking to Jim about this, 124 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: it was it's not that I'm not a fan of him, 125 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: it's it's I need him to show me something. He 126 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: showed us something today. Yeah, no question, about it. All right. 127 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: We'll get a little more into today's training camp practice 128 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: after we hear from Phil Dawson. But there were a 129 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: lot of people here today. Brad Paisley was here, you know, 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: just because Brad Paisley is a Browns fan. Yeah, now, hell, 131 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: you know it. He might have been the opener for 132 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: Phil Dawson. For now it was he was out of camp, 133 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: but then Phil Dawson had the main event here at 134 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: the press conference. Brad Paisley, Kurt Warner, uh, Bernie Kosar, 135 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: Josh Cribs, a lot of great players. The day though 136 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: belonged to Phil Dawson. And we're honored to present to 137 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: you our interview with the Browns kicking legend. I think 138 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: it's safe to say that based on everything that he's accomplished, 139 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: we hope you enjoy it. We'll be back with you 140 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: here right after this interview and here on the best 141 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: podcast available. I'm Jason Gibbs, He's Nick Shook, He's Andrew Gribble, 142 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: and he is Brown's great and now retiree, Phil Dawson. Congratulations, 143 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: and we are honored. We normally do this podcast, as 144 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned to you, after a camp and we're recapping 145 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: training camp practices and our our good friend in the 146 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: PR department, Dan Murphy, said, would you like Phil Dawston, 147 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: I said, we don't have to talk one thing about 148 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: a play that happened today on the football field. And 149 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: and we're happy to have you in. Congratulations on a 150 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: big day for you and your family. Well, I appreciate it. 151 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: It is Uh, it's really special to be home. Um. 152 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: Getting to see a lot of familiar faces, some new faces, 153 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: but we're all Browns, and UH, to to reconnect with 154 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: that is really special. It's wonderful to have you here, 155 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: and also to have you come back home. UM. I 156 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: know personally as someone who grew up in the Air 157 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: and grew up as a Browns fan, really starting with 158 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: the return of the team in n you were the 159 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: only kicker I knew as as a kid watching these 160 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: these teams, and and for a long time, you know, 161 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: in some of those lean years, you were everybody's favorite player. 162 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you were the one extremely reliable guy who 163 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: you knew. You didn't know if the offense is gonna 164 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: get in the the end zone, but you knew if they didn't, 165 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: philadelptin be out there to put three on the board. 166 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: Time and time again. So it's great to happy here 167 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: and we've talked about it. We talked about it yesterday. 168 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: So probably the three best Browns players are Joe Thomas, you, 169 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: and Josh Cribs. And that's two special teamers on this. 170 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Josh and I were talking about today. I saw him 171 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: out on the field and uh, you know, going into 172 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: a lot of games, the coaches were not all that 173 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: bashful and saying offense, just don't turn it over, Josh, 174 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: get a big return, fill neck to kick and we'll 175 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: add up enough of those and hopefully win if we 176 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: played good defense. And that was the game plan going 177 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: into games, and you know what, the games we won, 178 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: they kind of went like that. Now, I'll ask you this, 179 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: When you first got to Cleveland, when did you when 180 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: did it hit you right away that this was a 181 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: different environment to kick in, specifically weatherwise, when you got 182 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: down to the stadium, And do you think being in 183 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Cleveland kind of triggered your appreciation for knowing all this 184 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: stuff with the weather and things like that. Well, I 185 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: think I had to figure out the weather to survive. Uh, 186 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: And I got a lot of credit for having it 187 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: all down and and that felt good and Obviously I 188 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: put a lot of work into that, but you know, 189 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: my last season here was still learning things. And so 190 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: what I learned is you've got to be able to 191 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: go with flow as a kicker here, uh, your technique 192 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: and your fundamentals I call that the science of kicking. 193 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: That's your muscle memory. You've gotta have that down pat. 194 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: But then you gotta have some art. You've got to 195 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: be able to just have some feel and some figure 196 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: it out now because there's gonna be conditions that you 197 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: face here. That's your fundamentals and your muscle memory and 198 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: all that you can throw it out the window. So 199 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: I tried to look. You know, through the years, I 200 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: learned how to implement some art or feel into my 201 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: approach and that allowed me on those just extreme weather 202 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: days and still get the ball through. Talking with Phil D. Austin, 203 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: who officially retired as a member of the Cleveland Browns, 204 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: and second and career points. First, most seasons with a 205 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: hunter or more points with six First, most field goals 206 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: in the in a career here, most field goals in 207 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: a season. Here is there a record that that really 208 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: you kind of treasure when you go back and look 209 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: at it. They all, they're all special. Uh to have 210 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: any of them, I mean I I literally I think 211 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: one of the reasons I got along so well with 212 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland is the way Cleveland goes about their business and 213 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: the way I tried to go about my business were 214 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: very similar. I just considered myself a guy got up 215 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: in the morning, went and worked hard, and didn't really 216 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: care about any acclaim or anything that went along with it. 217 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: And when tough stuff happened, you just got up again, 218 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: you went back to work. You just that's what you do, 219 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: and that's how you make a living, that's how you 220 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: take care of your family. And and uh, the people 221 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: of Cleveland are the same, hard working, overcome adversity kind 222 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: of kind of people. And so to have that mindset 223 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: and that approach, you just kind of wake up one 224 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: day and you've been there a while and you don't 225 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: really realize the things you did along the way. So 226 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: now that I'm kind of in reflective mode, uh no 227 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: longer performance mode, when I hear some of these records 228 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: being read to me, it almost surprises me a little bit. 229 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: But they all feel great. If Freddy mentioned earlier today, 230 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: to play twenty seasons that takes intestinal fortitude to go 231 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: that that far in your career. I'm just wondering, when 232 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: did you know you maybe had that? We always talked 233 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: about kickers of them right mental makeup. When did you 234 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: know you had that? What it? What it takes? Man, 235 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I have an answer for that. 236 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: I knew that I had a god given ability to 237 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: kick a ball, and I knew I had the desire 238 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: to be great. How that was all going to play out, 239 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know. So I just went to 240 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: work and tried to use the talents I've been given 241 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: and be the hardest working guy out there. And I 242 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: will say, though, and I've seen this a lot, and 243 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: one of my boys, Drew, Uh, there's something too when 244 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: the when the stakes are highest, some guys show up 245 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: and others don't. Has nothing to do with their talent 246 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: or their toughness or anything. It's just it's an innate 247 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: quality that they have. I've watched my son Drew do it, 248 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: and looking back, I think I recognized that early on 249 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: as a kid, whether it was Little league baseball or 250 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: playing basketball or even with my football career began. For 251 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: whatever reason, whenever there was a big moment, Uh, good 252 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: things generally happened for me. You talked about in your 253 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: speech today, you know, coming in and making putting in 254 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: the work and making sure that you were prepared every Sunday. 255 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: What what went into that process for you? Well? I 256 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: mentioned checking the weather forecast about twenty times a day 257 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: every day. I mean I literally would have the hourly 258 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: forecast memorized going into a game, uh, because that would 259 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: affect not only my game plan personally, but once I 260 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: became a captain, started handling coin flips that would affect 261 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: uh the decision which end to defend uh. Sometimes knowing 262 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: that the wind was gonna be switching, we could get 263 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: the win at our back both quarters of a half 264 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: as opposed to just one. Uh. So that was that 265 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: was the preparation side of it. The the physical preparation 266 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: was intense, and I know that a lot of people 267 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: chuckle at that, but if asking any of my old teammates, 268 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: they would they would back me up on that. I mean, 269 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: UH would lift six days a week, um massus is 270 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: twice a week in the training room, getting worked on 271 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: almost every day, and then at home. It never left me. 272 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: I mean, my wife deserves a medal because even though 273 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: I was home, my mind didn't stray very far from 274 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: the task at hand. That week there was film study. 275 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to know everything about their field goal rush, 276 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: their kickoff return, and then I also studied the opponent's 277 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: kickers to help our return guys. I remember I'd sit 278 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: down with Josh, say, Josh, here's how he's gonna kick 279 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: it too your when he does this, expect this kind 280 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: of ball and UH. To see Josh take off the 281 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: way he did as a returner really excited me about 282 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: the influence or the role I could have not only 283 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: by contributing in my own little way, but also helping 284 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: with understanding of other kickers. So there was there was 285 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: a lot that went into every week, but I loved 286 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: every minute of it. You talked about kind of the 287 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: importance of family a lot in your press conference. I'm 288 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: just I'm just wondering, as you went throughout your career, 289 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: obviously much younger guy, and then when you get towards 290 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: the end of your career, how how different did that 291 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: make just your whole daily routine everything when you start 292 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: as a young guy was about to start a family, 293 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: and then now and at the end you've got it. 294 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: Was it was a struggle at first, just you know, 295 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have this little human being 296 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: screaming and pooping his pants in your house and you 297 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: don't know really how to handle that. But I think 298 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: it came along at the right time, because I can 299 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: remember being, uh to three years into the career when 300 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: Drew came along and I was starting to feel the 301 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: pressure pretty good. And uh, when I had a son, 302 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: it changed everything for me and it gave me a 303 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: new y. And then as I had more children, and 304 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: it's my children started getting older. You know, I had 305 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: kind of established myself in the league, and maybe it 306 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: worked through some of the stress. Uh. Now the pressure 307 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: of a legacy started creeping into my mind. And the 308 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: last thing I wanted to do on a Sundays go 309 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: out there and play terrible, and my kids have to 310 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: do with that. It's school. So there's kind of a 311 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: series of moments along the way that that my kids 312 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: supported me without them even really even knowing it. Who 313 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: is your roommate when you first came here? I had 314 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: several I mean that that that season, there were so 315 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: many transactions. I mean it literally. I can remember being 316 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: in the huddle for a kickoff like, who are you? 317 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: I had no idea who these guys were, so that, 318 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, when Chris Palmer told me we're gonna start 319 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: out with you, my mindset was just so self centered 320 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: and on surviving. I did a very poor job that 321 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: season of learning teammates names, remembering things. I mean, I 322 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: have very few memories of that season because I was 323 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: literally just trying to survive. We talked Britain cole Quit, 324 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, we talked to you know, Dave's asked Adella, 325 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: you're a good friend. Uh. They all have good stories 326 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: about interactions because during the game, you know, you're you're 327 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: kind of off in your own little world. And whether 328 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: it's working on the kicking in the kicking that whatever, 329 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: they all seem to have really good stories about dealing 330 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: with some kind of fan interaction and whatnot. Is there 331 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: is there anything that stands out to you? Is there 332 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: a memory from old Mile High Stadium. The bleachers would 333 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: come i mean eye level to a player on the 334 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: sideline and they were i mean directly behind the bench. 335 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: There was no room. So I'm in the net and 336 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: I'm warming up and this guy is just letting me 337 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: have it. I mean, he is tearing me apart, and 338 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: I'm kind of used to that, especially as a young 339 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: guy not proven in the league. The fans would let 340 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: me have it everywhere would go. But this one comment 341 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: got me more than any other. And he leans over 342 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: the edge of the chain link fence. He goes, hey, Dawson, 343 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: slide a salad in there every now, and then crushed me. 344 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you could have said my mom's fat. You 345 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: could have whatever you wanted to say, and I would 346 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: have been fine bringing on. But he said that, and 347 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: I was a wreck the rest of the game, trying 348 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: to suck my stomach in and stretch my shirt out. 349 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: I mean, he got me good. He got me good. Alright. So, 350 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: keeping in lying with some of those memories, I think 351 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: the two cakes of the fans want to know about 352 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: maybe the most beyond that one in ninety nine in 353 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh was against Buffalo at the stadium and and you 354 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: it's snowing so hard you can see the other side 355 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: of the stadium, and you come out and hit not 356 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: one but two incredible kicks. One that just dances in 357 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: the air. I've never seen a football do what it 358 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: did when you put it off the ground on that Kike. 359 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: What was it like preparing for that? Did you just say, 360 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: here goes nothing? You know? What was it like? You know? Uh? 361 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: First of all, I was not prepared for that. I 362 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: don't know how anyone could be. I mean I had 363 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: always been one, however, that if it was raining outside, 364 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: I was out kicking in it. If if it was 365 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: snowing outside, I was out doing it. If the team 366 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: was can't tell you how many times the team would 367 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: be practicing indoors and I was outdoors, I mean not, 368 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: it didn't matter. Uh So I did take pride in that. Uh, 369 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: but I could I can remember feeling no pressure of 370 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: that game. I mean, the the conditions were so extreme 371 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: no one expected me to make them, so went away. 372 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: That was a blessing because it just kind of freed 373 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: me up to go out there and let it rip. 374 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes when you go out in perfect conditions 375 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: and it's a thirty five yard or and everyone's you know, 376 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: going to get a beard because commercial breaks about to 377 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: come after the made field goal and everyone just expects 378 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: you to make it, those are the ones that are 379 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: hard to handle mentally. So I can just remember feeling 380 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: relaxed and almost excited, kind of felt like playing in 381 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: your front yard. You know, hey, buddy, run around the 382 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: mailbox and I'll throw you the ball. That's what that 383 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: day felt like. And we got that first field goal 384 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: opportunity early down on the dog pound end. That one 385 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: was actually harder, I think than the long one because 386 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 1: the wind was way more in my face, and uh, 387 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: I just said, get it up. I kicked it outside 388 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: the right, up right and knowing it would come back, 389 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: and it came right back through and probably cleared by 390 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: three yards. I mean it was a thirty thirty five 391 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: yard kicks something like that would have been good from 392 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: thirty seven. And that's it. And then the other one, 393 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm convinced to this day because of not being 394 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: able to see the yard markers. There's so much snow 395 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: on the field that that's the only reason we tried 396 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: that long one. I don't think Romeo knew how far 397 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: the field goal was because I once I figured it out, 398 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm jogging out on the field thinking this ball is 399 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: gonna land on the five yard line. I mean, there's 400 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: no way this ball is going in. So I just said, 401 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick it as hard as I can and 402 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes and it it went in 403 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: off the crossbar, barely made it in, all right? What 404 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: about another kick that happened to go off across bar 405 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: and a few other bars? Uh, probably a higher pressure 406 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: cake on the road in Baltimore, one that was ruled 407 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: first no good and then after overturning. What was that like? Well, 408 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: a little context on that one, and it's a it's 409 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: a bad memory for me. But the week prior I 410 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: had tried a fifty three yard game winner at hines 411 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: Field and I came up short. And so that entire 412 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: week was awful. I feel like I let the entire 413 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: city down. I questioned, what's wrong with me? Uh? Can I? 414 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: Can I rise through the occasion if another one comes? 415 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: And so now the very next week, here's a fifty 416 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: one yard or against another hated rival. Some here in 417 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland would argue more hated than Pittsburgh, if there is 418 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: such a thing. And we needed to win desperately, and 419 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: to to kick it it felt good coming off my foot. 420 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: There's always a little right to left down in Mt 421 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: and T Bank Stadium. It curved a little more and 422 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: I thought it would hit the left upright, ricocheted off 423 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: the stanch and came back in when I saw those 424 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: referees signal no good. You can go back and watch 425 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: the video. I literally been over and grab my knees 426 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: and I thought, I'm out of a job because I've 427 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: lost two games, two weeks in a row against the 428 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: two most hated rivals in all of football. You can't, 429 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: no one can survive that. And it literally took my 430 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: breath away. So as great a memory as it is 431 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: now that everything worked out in the moment, it was horrible. 432 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: That's eight years into a career at that. But it 433 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: goes back to that comment Coach Palmer gave me when 434 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: I won the job. We're going to start out with you, 435 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: and I think that just stuck with me my entire career. 436 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: One one bad kick away from it all being over. 437 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: He talked about the conditions being unique to Mt. Bank Stadium. 438 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: Was there one stadium or a few that had some 439 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: really different kind of setups that you just knew from 440 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: kicking there over time? The one I never figured out 441 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: with Chicago. Chicago is Cleveland wind but with a bad field, okay, uh, 442 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 1: And it's just it was very difficult to deal with 443 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: so many variables with the wind. So I can handle 444 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: wind if I got good footing, because I will figure 445 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: out where you have to kick the ball to make it. 446 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: I don't care if I have to kick it sideways, 447 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: I can do that. What I can't have is a 448 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: very specific target. I gotta hit with an uncertain plant foot, 449 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: because then if your plant foot slides, now you have 450 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: no idea where the ball is going. And sometimes those uprights, 451 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: you you have about a six inch window to hit 452 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: the ball to make the kick. If your plant foots duds, 453 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: you're done. And that was always my struggle in Chicago. 454 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: But generally speaking, the whole Great Lakes region is kind 455 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: of the kickers hill, you know, if you go from 456 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay to Chicago, Cleveland, Buffalo, those are those are 457 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: the hard ones. I was really surprised my first year 458 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. Old Candlestick part was not easy at all. 459 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I was unfamiliar with the area, the marine 460 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: layer and how cold it can be there compared to 461 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: thirty miles from there in the micro climate, so that 462 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: that was extremely difficult as well. You talked about kind 463 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: of the the short leash that all kickers seemingly are on. 464 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: What do you tell young kickers to not let that 465 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: get in the back of their head. What's the best 466 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: advice you give to those guys, you know, I I 467 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: when I talked to the guys today, I said, we 468 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: need to try to remove as much head as possible. 469 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: And the head game gets talked about more with kickers 470 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: than any other position, And I've always kind of chuckled 471 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: at that, because, I mean, a corner needs confidence, quarterback 472 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: needs to know where he's going with the ball, can't 473 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: be gunshy when a pass rusher breaks. I mean, everyone 474 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: needs to be mentally tough and have a strong mental game. 475 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 1: But I think the reason kickers get talked about the 476 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: most when it comes to the mental game is no 477 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: one understands the physical requirements of kicking a ball. So 478 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: because there's no hey, do this with your plant foot, 479 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: your postures a little off, whatever the technique may be. 480 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: Because no one knows that, they just automatically go to 481 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: this mental Oh you must be ahead, job, you can't 482 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: handle the pressure, you choke blah blah blah blah blah. 483 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: So where I'm going with all this is I would 484 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: tell young kickers focus on the physical. Let's get as 485 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: good as possible to physical and then let's hammer that 486 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 1: with muscle memory. I mean I I told him today, 487 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: build up your volume so you can kick, kick, kick, kick, 488 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: and keep kicking because that amount of volume, every good 489 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: kick is one more good kick in your muscle memory. 490 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: And now you can show up on game day when 491 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: there is pressure, when there is stress, and let's be honest, 492 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: that's a very difficult environment focus in. And there are 493 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: a lot of times I couldn't focus. So all I 494 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: did was put it on autopilot. And all that training 495 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: I've done of the physical overroad, whatever was going on 496 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 1: in my mind. Whoever wins that job, how much time 497 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: we'd recommend they spent at the stadium per week A lot, 498 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: I told. I told my boys today we were driving 499 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: down here from downtown, and I said, guys, I've driven 500 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: this highway back and forth and shoulder pads because I 501 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: can remember. I'd come out for practice to be a 502 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: little special teams period early and then we I wouldn't 503 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: have anything until the end of practice, so I would 504 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: literally jump in the van and we'd go down the 505 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: stadium and kick all practicing the stadium and then race 506 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: back here to finish practice here. So I just think 507 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: it's like anything. The more you're there, the more comfortable 508 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: you get with sight lines and just feeling it and 509 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: understanding how the weather affects things. I would live down there. 510 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: You seem like in obviously twenty years of professional kicking 511 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: would make you like this, But you seem like you're 512 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: very much a technician. Have you ever considered, you know, 513 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: maybe coaching or something like that in the future. Yeah, 514 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: I have. You know, it's my experience, it's my expertise. Uh, 515 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: it's the relationships I have I enjoy. I'm at a 516 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: point now now that I'm officially retired, I'm trying to 517 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: slowly let go of that competitor that I can do 518 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: it better than you. So I think now I can 519 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: turn the page and and get excited about making someone 520 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: else better. And that's obviously the role of a coach. 521 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens down the road. Give your 522 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: boys kicking, No, no, who wants that. I mean, it 523 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: worked out pretty much. I want them to be a 524 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: real player. So they've surpassed their dad's athleticism already. We 525 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: gotta let you go. I know that you've got a 526 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: lot of more stops here to make you the here 527 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: in the building, We appreciate the time. What's your message 528 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: to Cleveland fan, especially as we get ready for a 529 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: season that we all hope and think could be pretty 530 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: special here. I would tell him you deserve it and 531 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: to enjoy it. I wish I could have done it 532 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: for him, but I will be on Euclid Avenue with 533 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: him when the Lombardi Trophy comes home. I think there's 534 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 1: no better way to ending. I'm pleased. Congratulations on a 535 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: fantastic career. Thank you for all you did here. Thank you, 536 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: We we love you. All three of us are from here, 537 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: born in Bread and we've watched you for many years, 538 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: and I think we were all a little angry when 539 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: unfortunately you had to leave us. But that was congratulations 540 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: and best wishes. Thank you very much. Just an amazing 541 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: interview with Phil Dawson. We appreciate his time. We know 542 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: he's got a lot going on and they're moving him 543 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: around to different places here within the building. Your greatest 544 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: memory from Phil Dawson and his career grips Well, I 545 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: remember where I was watching that oh seven Baltimore game. 546 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: I was in my living room at my parents house. 547 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: I believe I was back. Uh it was oh seven 548 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: I'm so. I had just gotten back from an internship 549 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: in Alabama. I was watching that game on TV in 550 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: the living room, and I couldn't believe how it all unfolded, 551 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: just the whole process that it went through. And it was, 552 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: I want to say, when they even showed it on 553 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: TV replay after replay, it didn't seem like the announcers 554 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: were even sure that that was good. But then they 555 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: finally found an angle where where where it? Yeah, I 556 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: mean I he brought it up. I had no memory 557 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: of the week before, absolutely no memory of the week before. 558 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: They missed a kick that week. Uh, but I just 559 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: remember sitting in my living room. It was kind of 560 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: getting towards dusk by the time that that game was decided. Uh. 561 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: Just an amazing thing that one of those things were 562 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: in football. You just they always say about baseball, you'll 563 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: see something every every day that you've never seen before. 564 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: That was something you truly had never seen before. You Know. 565 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: It's funny because when he brought up that Pittsburgh game 566 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: the week before, it was one of those oh, you're 567 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: right moments for me because I was so I was 568 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: probably nearly as devastated as he was when he talked 569 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: about grabbing his knees and realizing he probably just lost 570 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: his job because the week before they had driven down 571 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: the field and where this close to kicking that that 572 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: field goal, and it came up short and it was 573 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: a gut punch. And it was in a season that 574 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: that they had. You know, the hopes were high because 575 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: they showed that they could score some points. And I 576 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: remember watching those Ravens players come back on the field 577 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: and they showed the tunnel shot in m T. Bank 578 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: Stadium where they're strapping up their pads and pulling their 579 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: jerseys back down and getting ready to go back out. 580 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: And mind you, this is after field goals not reviewable. 581 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: The referees discussed for ten minutes and then magically it 582 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: was good without reviewing film interviewing Matt Stover, Yeah, and 583 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: it was a Dawson that came over and said, hey, yes, 584 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: we got over, we got overtime. Let's go, We're going 585 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 1: over time. Is that. It's a hilarious video. Absolutely the 586 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: game and Phil and Mad are good friends. And Matt 587 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: obviously was a prowns kicker at one time, so uh 588 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: so many good things that he did, like Okay, he 589 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: missed a kick here there. He had two seasons where 590 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: he had made nine of his kicks. I mean, he 591 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: was as automatic as they came him. Yeah, And I 592 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: think that we talked about the Buffalo thing too. That 593 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: I walked in that stadium backwards that day because it 594 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: was sleading, snowing so hard that it stopped hurt to walk. 595 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: You could not see the other side of that stadium. 596 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: And that second kick that he talked about, the one 597 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: where he thought it was gonna land on the five, 598 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I was sitting right there. I saw 599 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: that ball come up and and it it looked like 600 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: it was a roller coaster. It went up and down, 601 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: fluttered left right, it danced, it danced in the air, 602 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: and they hit the crossbar and winning, And it was 603 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: such a surreal environment for a football game, and to 604 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: watch him hit those field goals was just unbelievable. And 605 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: I think that really personified his his entire career right 606 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: there in that game, a guy who no one expects 607 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: him to make the kick and he goes out and 608 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: makes them twice. I find it fascinating too, and he's right. 609 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: It just goes to show you at that during that 610 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: time period, I mean, oh, seven was kind of an 611 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: anomaly for us. It was how bad the offense was 612 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: that where he said, you know, I would talk with cribs. 613 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: He had to make plays. I had to make kicks, 614 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: and if our defense held them, we're gonna win. I mean, 615 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,959 Speaker 1: think about where that is to where we are this 616 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: year and what we're looking at potentially put put prime 617 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: Phil Dawson on this team. How good? How much better 618 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: do you feel about this year's team? That's fun? I mean, 619 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: does even take it, does even make a fifty have 620 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: to kick a fifty yard field goal? I mean maybe 621 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: once or twice because it still is the NFL, But 622 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: but for the most part, no, we're inside and fifty. 623 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: I think we're inside fifty. That makes you appreciate this though, 624 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, as we go out there every day and 625 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: sometimes camp can kind of blend together, right, Yeah, well 626 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: we're seeing the same thing we saw the last few days. 627 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: But that really makes you appreciate how far this team 628 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: has come and where it could potentially go. When you're 629 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: watching guys, because I mean we haven't even talked about today, 630 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: but Odell made a spectacular grab today, and and and 631 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: Jervis Landry had another nice one. We talked about the 632 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: Mac interception. I mean, these types of plays and these 633 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: types of players were not here when Phil was here, 634 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: and now that they are, we should all appreciate it 635 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: and enjoy it for for what it is. Yeah, I 636 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: think we've earned that after twenty years of we've had 637 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: to endure here all right, big takeaways from today. Obviously, 638 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: we talked about mack Wilson's interception. Odell with a great 639 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: one handed grab. He did miss one in the end zone, 640 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: but after practice he said, Baker put it in a 641 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: good enough place. I shouldn't make that catch. But the 642 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: offense looked pretty good. A pretty spirited practice today in 643 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: preparation for tomorrow scrimmage. Yeah, I liked it. I saw 644 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: from the offense. They they looked really good, especially during 645 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: that one period where they seemed to be drilling like 646 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 1: these little tiny screen passes are a little dump passes 647 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: to the running backs. Those worked a bunch of times. Uh, 648 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 1: makes you excited about what you can get from both 649 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb and Dontrell Hilliard in the passing game. I 650 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: just thought the offense looked good, but it was. It 651 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: was good because the offense moved the ball. But then 652 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: the defense also created a lot of turnovers. We had 653 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: Mack Wilson and then you also had Philip Gaines get 654 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: an interception and the one that got the roster, the 655 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: whole bench excited. Tiggy Sanko gotta pick uh in the 656 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: again against the fourth team offense. I believe, but I 657 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: mean Tiki Sanko is a guy that's from England, has 658 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: been on this roster as kind of the the player 659 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: exception in the international program. Has been here since the 660 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: being a training camp last year. You don't hear his 661 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: name much. Sometimes he's not even getting reps out there. 662 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: But the players were truly pumped when he got a 663 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: pick and it was a great play. I mean it 664 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: looked like a red the ball perfectly made the play. 665 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 1: It was kind of a fun moment. Practice. Another very 666 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: physical practice, we had a play come out to the 667 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: sideline where I was standing at the time. I think 668 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: it was Ernest Johnson had taken a handoff, gone off 669 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: an excellent block black Kyle Kyless, which I'll get to 670 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: kind of in a second, because I think it was 671 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: an example of an improvement. But he gets off this block, 672 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: goes to the outside, bounces it out kind of gets 673 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: swarmed by three defenders and then who is it Andrew's 674 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: favorite Bob Cat T J. Carey coming in and cleaning 675 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: up the play and not just cleaning it up to 676 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: get him out of bounds, but going in shoulder first 677 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: and really giving him a good pop. It's not let 678 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: me see in a training camp practice every day, and 679 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: it was an example of what we've seen here a lot. 680 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: It's very spirited, very physical play, living right up to 681 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchen's expectations. Uh money, Mitch with a nice day. 682 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: T Carry had a nice little practice. The secondary played 683 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: pretty well today. Donnie Lewis Jr. Was back on the field. 684 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: Nice pass breakup in the end zone. Very good. Yeah, 685 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: not too shabby at all. And the defense finished the 686 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: day with the victory. Uh, stopping the team the offense 687 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: on the fourth and one, I think in the two 688 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: minute drills, So I want to give credit to them. 689 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the offense, but the defense 690 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: did make some plays when it counted. Tomorrow, the Origin 691 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: Brown Scrimmage goes to We go to First Energy Stadium. 692 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: At least thirty two thousand will be there. Uh, get 693 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: a little game like conditions in preparation for Thursday nights 694 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: preseason game number one. What can we reasonably expect tomorrow? 695 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, it's a scrimmage, but it could I 696 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: mean a lot of this is going to be still 697 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: practicing and getting in the work that they need to 698 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: get in so that they're ready for September. More so 699 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: than I think this is it's all about the fans, 700 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: and I think this is just another opportunity to get 701 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: this team in front of a lot of more eyeballs, 702 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: and I just think this is gonna be kind of 703 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: a snapshot into the excitement that really truly surrounds this 704 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: team right now. So it's gonna be a matter of 705 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: this team getting one day better practice with a lot 706 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: of eleven and eleven action, But ultimately it's going to 707 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: be just uh, kind of the the drumbeat continues to 708 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: build for this season, and this is going to be 709 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: one of those We're going to see the aerial shots 710 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be like this many Browns fans here 711 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: for a scrimmage, and I think that that's that's gonna 712 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: be what what our takeaways from tomorrow? You know, I 713 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: think that a lot of these fans have not had 714 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: an opportunity to come out here because of the lack 715 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: of availability of training camp tickets, because of how fast 716 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: they were scooped up by fans, and this is an 717 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: excellent opportunity for them to get a peek at what 718 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: we've been putting on our social channels, which is highlight Place. 719 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: And it's not gonna be every play, but you're gonna 720 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: get a glimpse of the many talented players on this 721 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: team and what they could possibly do within this offense 722 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: and defense. And there's gonna be a lot of move 723 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: the ball periods, which is where we've seen the most 724 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: action on a daily basis in these in these practices, 725 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: and we'll also get another look at the kickers and 726 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: the putters as well. You know, you want to see 727 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: a guy go boom a punt. Come watch the Scottish 728 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: Hammer tomorrow. I'm telling you wanted to be a really, 729 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: really good time. We're looking forward to it again. Dog 730 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: Pound Drive opens at one o'clock. Uh, the practice starts 731 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: at four o'clock. Goes from four to six. Come on down, 732 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: go there, do a little pregame for the Indians. Go 733 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: to the Indians game at seven o'clock. Make it a 734 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: full day tickets are only five bucks. All the proceeds 735 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: benefit the Cleveland Browns Foundation. We hope to see all 736 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: of you tomorrow at First Energy Stadium. We've had a 737 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: lot of great podcasts for the first eight days. Jim Donovan, 738 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: Nathan Ziagura, Eric Kush, Brown's linebacker coach, Al Hulcom, Mike 739 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: pre for yesterday was fantastic. Phil Dawson probably the latest 740 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: and probably the best that we've done so far. We 741 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: appreciate his time and wish him well in his retirement. 742 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 1: If you want to listen to any of those podcasts, 743 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: log on to Cleveland Browns dot com or wherever you 744 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: go to get your podcasts. For Andrew Gribble, for Nick Shook, 745 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Gibbs. This is the best podcast available