1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: High Hillo football fan, your old pal Dave damaschik here. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out the Dave Damas check Football program. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: You can watch it on YouTube, NFL dot com. You 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: can listen to it on iTunes or Stitcher or NFL 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: dot com. Slash Podcasts. We look at the world of 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: pro football and the game called life and now Move 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's up, everybody? 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Move the Sticks. DJ and Bucky on assignment 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: once again. Last week we were in Tampa, Florida for 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: the East West Game on some muffled cell phones. Today 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: we are in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Bowl Buck 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: and we I believe we're skyping right now audio Skypes, 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: so hopefully the the audio qualities a little bit better. 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: I know some people down here thought we were doing 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: last week's pod from an airplane, but I can confirm 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: both feed are currently on the ground. Yeah, that's pretty funny, 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: um which run it on Skype. We'll see how it 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: works out. Yeah, we'll see what we can power through 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: this thing here, man, with not not a ton to 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: get to here, we do have a couple of Super 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: Bowl teams we need to talk about those conference championship games. 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Will touch on that for a minute. We'll touch on 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: what we've seen through the first practice down here at 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowls, some good talent down here and uh, 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: and what we expect for the rest of the week. Buck. 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: But but first of all, let's start with the Let's 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: start with the NFC championship game. Both these championship games 28 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: really kind of just just butt kickings. Um I I can. 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: I can tell you that I've I've nailed every single 30 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: one of these playoff games, which all that does is 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: ensure that I'm gonna miss the Super Bowl by like, 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, I want to be close and trying to 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: predict that one. But I did like both the home 34 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: teams this week, and man, they dominated. How about start 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: with the the NFC. What you see Packers Falcons? Uh. 36 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons are playing like the team that we 37 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: thought they would play like probably about midway through the year. 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: High powered offense, quarterback playing at an m v P level. 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: They are a team. We've talked about this. We talked 40 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: about it first with Deshaun Watson in terms of a 41 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: guy that can drive a Cadillac. Matt Ryan is driving 42 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: a Cadillac in Atlanta with the skill players that he 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: has at his disposal to Havin Coleman, DeVante Freeman, Julio Jones, 44 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: mohammas A New Taylor, Gabriel, the tied ends. They have 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: really surrounded him with everything that a quarterback could desire, 46 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: and he's doing a great job of just simply being 47 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: the bus driver distributed the ball, allowing his playmakers to work. 48 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: I know he deserves a ton of credit, but they've 49 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: done a great job of assembling a line up there 50 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: really plays to his strengths as a player. Yeah, it's 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: it's funny. I had a chance to just briefly talk 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: with with Scott Pioli, I am with Thomas Dimitrof a 53 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: little bit about the run that they've been on and 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: the team that they've felt, and the the image that 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: I gave them was, man, it's it's you guys are 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: kind of like that that shark you know about in 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: the water where we're just kind of seeing the fin 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: and and uh and what what's taking place for their success? 59 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: We don't see the underbody there, what's going on underneath 60 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: the water? How hard they have worked and uh and 61 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: the team that they've felt last year. You know a 62 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: lot of these key players for them that are playing great. 63 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: We're on this team last year, but they've just continue 64 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: to add more pieces to the puzzle. And now you're 65 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: seeing when you have you know, some complimentary pieces in place, 66 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: it's making their stars much much better. And we've seen 67 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: those guys kind of take their play to the next level. 68 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean Mohammed San New it's like the He is 69 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: the quintessential perfect offseason free agency addition Bucky because he 70 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: gives you some playmaking ability. He's still young, he's a 71 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: great teammate, he's ultra ultra tough. I mean all the 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: character of qualities he has. Now he's not you know, 73 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: talk about a Batman or Robin. He's not Batman. You've 74 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: got Batman and Julio Jones. But man, he really does 75 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: a nice job of playing that secondary role. He absolutely does. 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: And you and I talked about your bath Your wide 77 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: receiver corps is really like a basketball team. You need 78 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: to have guys with different weapons, different skill sets so 79 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: they can compliment one another. And when I look at 80 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: Julio Jones and Mohammed San, you you're talking about two 81 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: big players, but they go about their business business in 82 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: different ways. Julio Jones is the explosive, the beast, the 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: guy that can do anything and everything. With Mohammedan New, 84 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: you talked about the perfect compliment. We talked about why 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: receiver corps is being built like basketball teams, guys who 86 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: have skills that compliment one another. And Julio Jones, you 87 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: have a big, physical playmaker guy that can do everything. 88 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Mohammedan New is kind of the guy that does the 89 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: dirty work in the red zone over the middle of 90 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: the field. Also saw his ability to kind of jump 91 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: in as a wildcare quarterback. He is a very nice 92 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: compliment to Julio Jones. And if you go back and 93 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: really think about how the Falcons were originally constructed under 94 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, he basically has replaced Righty White and given 95 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: them a dynamic number two receiver where you possibly could 96 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: have two thousand yard receivers as what they continue to 97 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: progress and grow together. As a young Teennam One thing 98 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: I think too, when you just look at this defense 99 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: that they've built there in Atlanta, um now, it's just 100 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: it's just getting going. But it's funny to me because 101 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: you look at a dan Quinn his background in Seattle, 102 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 1: and when you watch Attle play, you can throw their 103 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: forty times out. I mean just they just always look 104 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: like the fastest team on the field on the defensive 105 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: side of the ball. And when you start looking at 106 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: now these pieces that they have in Atlanta. Okay, we 107 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: all get a lot of talk about Vick Beasley, but 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: Grady Jarrett is an inside rusher, is a fastball coming inside. 109 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: You look at what they do with Kean O'Neil and 110 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: how they drop him down in the box. He's a fastball. 111 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: Dion Jones is a fastball. UM with Davandre Campbell ran 112 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: really well even for a bigger linebacker. Um they have got, 113 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, corner. Jalen Collins is an ultra, ultra athletic 114 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: fast guy. They've just they've put so much speed on 115 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, and they're built to 116 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: play with the lead. You get a lead and they 117 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: can suffocate you with their speed. So it's it's really 118 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: kind of a It's an interesting team that they've built there. 119 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: I think they were happy, as crazy as it sounds, Buck, 120 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: I think they were happy to see the Packers. They 121 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: matched up great with them. I think the Cowboys would 122 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: have given the Falcons a little more trouble had they 123 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: met in this NFC Championship game. Last to agree with 124 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: your DJ, they are a team that when you're building 125 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: a team, I think they've kind of build it the 126 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: right way. They knew they had a high powered offense 127 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: in place where they were hoping that they would have 128 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: a high powered offense. So now you build that defense 129 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: to complement what you have. The offense is the strength 130 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: of the team, and because the offense can jump out, 131 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: their defense is loaded with pass rushers sideline to sideline, 132 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: playmakers at the second level, and then cover guys in 133 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: the back end. And so this young team, which will 134 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: be really a cheap team because they're drafted, those guys 135 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: won't come up for a couple of years. This is 136 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: a team that certainly can grow together. And you can 137 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: see this defense become one of the top defenses because 138 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: as they continue to learn the nuances of playing in 139 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: this simple scheme, they will only get faster and only 140 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: made more plays because they understand exactly what they're doing. 141 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: I think on the other side of the ball, you 142 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: look at Green Bay, this is a team that does 143 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: need to get a little bit more athletic does need 144 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: to get a little bit younger, um, you know, on 145 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. So that's gonna be 146 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: a challenge for them. Aaron Rodgers obviously, Um, you know, 147 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't his best game. I mean, the stats look good, 148 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't you know, the the perfect game 149 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: for him. But man, you can't. You can't ask the 150 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: guy to stink and lead the team and rushing every week. 151 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: They have got to do something in the offseason to 152 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 1: get him a little bit more help there and become 153 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more balanced. And uh, and I think 154 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: when you look at their in the in the passing game, 155 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: I know they've got some some really really good wide 156 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: receivers buck, but uh, you know, when when Jordy Nelson 157 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: is healthy, he's he's a true number one. But man, 158 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: they don't they could use another dude, another big time 159 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: dude in the passing game as well. Yeah, I think 160 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: the thing that we've seen when you look at the 161 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, they are a really good team, but 162 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: no team should have to rely on scramble plays and 163 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: sandl plays so often to sustain your offense. At some 164 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: point you need to have guys that can whip the 165 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: opponent on the other side of them. And I don't 166 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: know in the passing game outside of joining Nelson and 167 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: occasionally we saw DeVante Adams come up and step up 168 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: and be a solid number two. I don't know how 169 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: many stars they have on offense. And this is a 170 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: game where when you get to the championship level, you 171 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: need to have your stars kind of carry you over. 172 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: And I just don't know if the Packers have enough 173 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: stars that can get them over the threshold. Yeah, and 174 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: I think you know the other point I was just 175 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: making this game before we move on. It's, uh, it's 176 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: the ability to create explosive plays. And you just look 177 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: down here at the at their box chart, at the 178 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: box score, Julio Jones has seventy three yard play. You know, 179 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: you've got DeVante Freeman out of the backfield, get your 180 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: nineteen yard catch. You've got Coleman out of the backfield, 181 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: get your seventeen yard catch. DeMarco the fullback at your 182 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: thirty one yard Catcherman And that's not even of Gabriel 183 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: and Hooper both had catches over you know, fifteen yards 184 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: or so. You had some new with sixteen yard catch, 185 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: so they they're finding ways to just get these chunk plays, 186 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: and especially in the postseason, this is where it's going 187 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: to be fascinating as we kind of switch over here 188 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: to the a f C game, is that the Patriots 189 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: are one of those few teams that they don't necessarily 190 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: have to have those explosive plays. Tom Brady can carve 191 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: you up ten to ten yards at a time, but 192 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: for most of the most mortals that's hard to do. 193 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: Especially in the postseason two score points, you need explosives, 194 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: and Atlanta can do that. The challenge is going to be, 195 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, with New England, they are so patient, they're 196 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: they're a team that's just gonna beat you know, death 197 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: by a million paper cuts what we like to call it. Yeah, 198 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's definitely interesting to watch the 199 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: contrasting styles. You talk about the Atlanta Falcons being an 200 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: explosive team, a home run team. They have guys that 201 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: can take in the distance from anywhere on the field, 202 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 1: be their running backs, be the guys on the premimeter. 203 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: They can kind of live on short plays that turn 204 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: into big games. For the Patriots. They are a team 205 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: that's a little more methodical in their approach. They put 206 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: a lot on Tom Brady to be patient, to be disciplined, 207 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: and not avoid the big mistake. They don't necessarily have 208 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: the guys in their receiver corps that can make those 209 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: big plays on catching runs. But what they are able 210 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: to do is to take Tom Brady and craft and 211 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: design a couple of plays that generate the explosive plays. 212 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: We saw the flee flicker against the Pittsburgh Stillers. We've 213 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: seen them come up with some other tricks and gadgets 214 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: to create those home run plays. In the Super Bowl, 215 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: They're going to need to generate some of those twenty 216 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: five plus yard passes for them to have a chance 217 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: to kind of stay on the field with an explosive 218 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: Atlanti Falcon offense. What's your thoughts. We touched on the 219 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: Packers here. The Patriots obviously, you know it's a pretty 220 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: just a thorough beating of Pittsburgh. Brady was on fire. Um, 221 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't have a ton of run game 222 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: going there, but they ran it enough with Garrett Blunt, 223 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: get enough attempts to him to stay balanced. Hogan had 224 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: the game of his life. You know, mentioned the flee 225 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: flicker and some of the other opportunities he had. But 226 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: when you look at Pittsburgh, Um, I know they've got 227 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: some young kids in their secondary Bucky, you're gonna see 228 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: them continue you to get better. But man, I just 229 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: I look at who they're bringing past rush Wise, I 230 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: like Hardgrave as a young interior defensive player. James Harrison 231 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: has played well for you know, for where he is 232 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: in his career. But still this is not you know, 233 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: I just think back to those old Steeler teams with 234 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: a young Woodley and a young Harrison and before that, 235 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: all those linebackers they used to trot through there. I just, man, 236 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: they can't get home. No, they can't get home. And 237 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: in their scheme, a zone blessed scheme, uh, if you're 238 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: not able to get free and clear their holes in 239 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: the zone. And what we saw Tom Brady do is 240 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: we saw him pick him apart. We saw them kind 241 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: of dictate the turns. They would go empty it still 242 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: as you make a kind of soft check, they would 243 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: take advantage of what the check is. And the thing 244 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: that I would complement the New England page zone. They 245 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: are masters of game plans. They do a great job 246 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: of finding what your weaknesses and they relentlessly attack it 247 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: for the Pittsburgh Stealers to take that next step, You're right, 248 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: they have to find pass Russia or two like a 249 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: guy that can be a double digit guy. Because when 250 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: they were really dominant on the mid two thousand's, they 251 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: had the ability to knock the quarterback around with multiple people. 252 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: They no longer have that ability. When you look at 253 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: Jarvis Jones and Bud dupri and James Harrison, they just 254 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: don't have those dominating forces off the edge. No, I 255 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Um, you know, it's just it's 256 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: funny when you talk about the way they played in 257 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: that game and they just continually just played soft zone 258 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: coverage against Tom Brady and I thinking it's not apples 259 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: to apples. But look, I went to a small, you know, 260 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: private Christian high school. Okay, Buck, so basketball season, imagine this. Okay, 261 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: we've got, you know, especially my junior senior year, we 262 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: don't have anybody really over six four, you know, so 263 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: we're all we're all six one to six four white 264 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: dudes that that can shoot. Okay, that's what we are. Buck, 265 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: We're not We're not a penetrating team. We're not an 266 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: overly athletic team. And we go out there and a 267 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: team would play zone against this. Buck was like, oh, 268 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: thank you, this is like a gift from from above. 269 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: It wants to press us. They go, oh, this is 270 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: gonna be a long, long day. I just sitting there going, 271 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: tom Brady's going, are you serious, you guys guys gonna 272 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: play eight yards off up to I mean, I was actually, 273 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I was kind of shocked that they didn't. 274 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: They never deviated from their plan. They never challenged him 275 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. They never played man demand. 276 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: The teams that have had the greatest success against the Patriots, 277 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks and Houston Texans. They were teams that 278 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: were willing to play man to man. They put a 279 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: premium on knocking guys around at every turn, and then 280 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: they were able to heat up tom Brady with four 281 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: and five rushers. I don't believe that you can play Ben, 282 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: but don't break and patiently wait for Tom Brady to 283 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: make mistakes. He's one of the few quarterbacks that's disciplined 284 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: enough to take the checkdown and continue to take the 285 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: checkdown all the way down the field, and he will 286 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: rarely give you the ball back. I think you have 287 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: to be able to doll it up and came after him. 288 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: I think you gotta just challenge your guys. Hey, look, guys, 289 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: I know we're young, we're the winning experience. But where's 290 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. You know, we're gonna we're if 291 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: we lose, we're going down swinging. So we're gonna get 292 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: up in their face. We're gonna press them if they 293 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: want to throw it over the top of us, take 294 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: the chances. Hopefully we get a couple of them. Maybe 295 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna get a couple of them. But I'm not 296 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: gonna sit back here and let him just surgically just 297 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: pick us apart. I mean, that's that's painful. I mean 298 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: it is really painful. And I do agree with you 299 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: the best way that you play the pages. When I 300 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: talked to a defensive coordinating he said, you have to 301 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: put your hands on the receivers. You have to disrupt 302 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: the time and of the passing game. You have to 303 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: force Brady off his spot. So to me, it kind 304 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: of requires a couple of different tenants of the game plan. 305 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: I won't man to man uh coverage on the outside, 306 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: and I want to be creative in the way that 307 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: we attack the quarterback stunts games. We saw how Houston 308 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: was able to use Winney Mercylis in a bunch of 309 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: different ways. I believe you just have to kind of 310 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: unleash it and live to live with the results, because 311 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: if you play his own defense against him, he will 312 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: absolutely win all of the time, and we will see 313 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: the pages hanging another banner in gilette. By the way 314 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: that I haven't even told him this yet, but for 315 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: our producer, our Juna Is, I'm finding him. I'm gonna 316 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: say I think he has to bias each What do 317 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: you I like a soup at our little cafe at 318 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: NFL Network, Buck, I don't know what you want of 319 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: of equal, equal or lesser value? You okay with that? Yeah, 320 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm okay with it? What what? What? What? What? Well, 321 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: here's here's the deal. Here's the deal. Okay. Our Juna 322 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Is he's a he's a Boston, New England sports fan, 323 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: and he's you know, we're talking about setting up stuff 324 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna do next week for our video shows for 325 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, and then like he just puts a 326 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: little tag in there like, oh, I'm so excited for 327 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,119 Speaker 1: the you know, I'm really pumped up for the Patriots, 328 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Like like, oh, really, Like what's it like to finally 329 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: have some success? What you know, how I don't always 330 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: you been into. This is like a seventh super Bowl 331 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: in the in the twenty three years he's been alive. Like, 332 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: come on, dude, I'm not happy for you. It's old hat. 333 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: It does stop. You're're fine. It's a soup. It's two 334 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: So it's a two soup. Fine, two soups. Scene is 335 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: a little excessive. And he hits me at this, Bucky, 336 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: he hits me at Martina, come on, and you hit 337 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: me with this. The same week, even though I wasn't 338 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: a fan growing up, my you know, my town, my 339 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: home team, they lose, they leave, they they've totally moved, 340 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: they move. And then the same week you're like, oh, 341 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, hey, but hey, let's have a party for me. 342 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going, hey, what are you not going 343 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: to super Bowl again? Big shocker. So it's a two 344 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: super that's a two super Bucky Senior Bowl. What did 345 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: you see today? Out of practice? You know? DJ the 346 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: first day, Um, when guys are in hills, I have 347 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: a tendency to kind of keep my eyes on the 348 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: skille guys. Um, I know the game is built down 349 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: into trenches, but I kind of like to see them 350 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: fully padded before I make evaluations on those guys. So 351 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: in casting my eyes to the guys on the perimeter, 352 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: I must say I was really impressed with some of 353 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: the wide receivers and tight ends. Give me something, give 354 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: me some names. Well, me gives you the names. So 355 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: obviously I'm gonna store with the tar hero, Ryan Swiszer, 356 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: and the the reason I was impressed with Ryan because 357 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: I really want to see what he was gonna look 358 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: like out here, and I was pleasantly surprised by his 359 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: route running ability. I knew he was quick and explodeive, 360 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: I knew he was upon returning all that, but his 361 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: ability to run routes from the outside, the comebacks, uh, 362 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: some of the curls, some of the things, he was 363 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: able to do it one on once. To me, it 364 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: was impressive. I know the height is going to be 365 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: an issue, and I know the size is going to 366 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: be a bit of an issue, but he's pretty creative, 367 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: he's pretty dynamic. I thought he was terrific, and I thought, 368 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: on the other side, Cooper Cup is an He's a dude. 369 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: He's a dude. And now in the sense of like, oh, 370 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: he can run, but he is really cracky with his 371 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: route running, his releases, the way he was able to 372 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: get separation. Impressed. He's I thought he was good when 373 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: I watched him in the fall. He's even better than 374 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: I thought when I see him now matched up against 375 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: some of these deep eas and coin is that we're 376 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: trying to take him on today. I'll tell you what 377 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: I wish we can do this. I'm not gonna challenge 378 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: the guys and they're gonna hate me for doing this 379 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: right now. But um, is there any way our June. 380 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: Is there any way that we can take the interview 381 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: that we did with Cooper Cup on TV and throw 382 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: it on the back end of our podcast. Are we 383 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: allowed to do that? I mean at the back end 384 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: of this podcast. Yeah, at the back end of this podcast. 385 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: We can look into it. If not, if not in 386 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: this one, maybe we included it. Just just hold grab 387 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: the audio from that because Bucky, it's you know, we've 388 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time, interviewing guys at 389 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: Scouts and then also you know, since we've gone over 390 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: to the dark side here on the media. It was 391 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: one of the most impressive interviews I've ever done. I mean, 392 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: he is a stud. You talk about somebody that gets it. Um, 393 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: that's that's gives you every right answer. It's not phony, 394 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: it's not stage. It's very authentic. I asked him about 395 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: going down to that Manning camp and what he learned 396 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: from Eli and Peyton, and he just, you know, it 397 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: was it was awesome. I mean, it's everything you want. 398 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: This guy is such a professional. Um for somebody that's 399 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: at this stage and his career, just getting ready to 400 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: start his career, he just you know, you know when 401 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: you talk to certain guys that that there's they're gonna 402 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: be really good. This dude's gonna be really good. Yeah, 403 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: I mean he's terrific. I mean he watched him go 404 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: through to Rouse, watching him uh compete and take those 405 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: guys down. He certainly came with a little chip on 406 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: his shoulder, but he did in a very professional manner 407 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: like he was about his business. And so my biggest 408 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: takeaway from him is, oh, he is a nice number 409 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: two receiver. And I know we've talked about the comparison. 410 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: I heard you and Aaric talked about Eric Decker. Uh, 411 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: that's who I kind of had him pegged as prior 412 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: to see in him. But he's a nice mix. I mean, 413 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: he is a nice miss of side speed. Uh, he 414 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: has some pop. He could be in in a system 415 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: like a Green Bay or New York Giants, or a 416 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: West Coast system that really places a premium on route running. 417 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: He could be a terrific player. What do you think 418 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: is A Jones from East Carolina? I thought he a 419 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: pretty good day, you know, I thought he had a 420 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: pretty good day. He did some pretty nice things. I 421 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: saw him get jammed up a little bit. But he's 422 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: certainly talented. I believe he and Josh Reynolds are talented guys. 423 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds dropped a couple of balls early during one 424 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: was I kind of dismissed some of those because I 425 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: know the butterflies can kind of take over. But both 426 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: of those guys are kind of long, smooth striders, guys 427 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: that can create separation. I thought he did a pretty 428 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 1: good job and one on Ones, Yeah, z A. Jones 429 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: is good and we knew he was talented. Obviously has 430 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: legacy his dad he played um and his little brother 431 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: is supposed to be a big time linebacker recruit too. 432 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he I mean, I mean it's 433 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: the family business. You know, his older brother Caleb at 434 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: Texas also went to Arizona, So I mean there's a 435 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: lot of talent in their family. All right, how about 436 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: did you see uh, Well, I don't know if he 437 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: saw the dude from uh from Villanova in the way man. 438 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: He is a big, good looking dude and he came 439 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: out there to uh to practice today and carry it over. 440 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: It mean he's he's he's ppressive. He is impressive. I 441 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: mean he's quite a show pony on the hoof when 442 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: you see him. I mean you're talking about a long, 443 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: athletic dude, a guy that looks apart when he puts 444 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: his hand in the ground. He has those tools and 445 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: trades that defensive coaches just salivate over. So I thought 446 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: he had a solid day. I want to continue to 447 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: see him build on it when they getting past. But 448 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: he's certainly off to a nice story. Yeah, he was 449 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: six he was I ran at six seven, just a 450 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: tick under six seven, two eight pounds and uh and 451 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: not an ounce of fat on him. I mean it 452 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: was it was impressive. Well, watching him at the way 453 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: ends and then seeing him out in the field and 454 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: what he did on one on ones I thought defensive 455 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: line wise, it's a pretty good group. Monte Montevious Adams 456 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: from Auburn had a really nice day. He's got a 457 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: lot of power inside. Uh my, my dude from Charlotte 458 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: from you and see Charlotte had a really really nice day. 459 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 1: He's got a real, real quick first step as a 460 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: defensive tack. He was a three or four nos uh 461 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: Larry Ogan job. Um he's six to four, so six 462 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: two and a half, three four pounds. He had a 463 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: really nice day. Um. So there's some good dudes on 464 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: the inside and there my tackle that I love, Forced 465 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: Lamp from Western Kentucky Buck. It wasn't his best day, um, 466 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: hopefully just knocking some rust off. He got a little 467 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: over extended at times, but there were definitely opportunity where 468 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: you could see that torque and power that he has 469 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: in his hands. He's a really, really good player, but 470 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 1: lost a couple of reps today over extended ductor's head 471 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, you know you talked about being 472 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: excited about offen the line. I'm really excited about the 473 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: tied in class. You've talked this guy up a lot. 474 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Jared Gerald Everett, and he showed up and performed. In fact, 475 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: everyone on the South squad at tied end was pretty 476 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: much good. Yeah. I thought Ingram and Gerald Everett are 477 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: kind of like the Jordan's read um type player. You 478 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: guy that can split out. They really jump both sides 479 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: wide receivers, They create problems at the top of the route. 480 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: They run rouse like wide receivers. They catch the ball 481 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: very well, and they explosive when they get their hands 482 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: on it. I think O. J. Howards set rating himself 483 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: a little bit from that pact. I do believe he's 484 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: a little more complete. I thought he did a great 485 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: job of tracking the ball down to field, made a 486 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: couple of plays, and when you see him kind of work, 487 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: I can try and if he can try and just 488 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: become a little bit better as a blocker, I think 489 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: he can be a long time Pro Bowl caliber tied 490 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: in in the right offense. Yeah, I thought this year 491 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: he made you know, good strides. I thought he was 492 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: much better in the run game. Um so, and I 493 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: think he's somebody that comes in and plays right away. 494 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: The one thing that you that I haven't got a 495 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: chance to get a feel for him just yet. I 496 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: want to see him in the one on ones. I 497 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 1: didn't get that. I know. I peeked down there. We 498 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: were we were doing TV on the other side of 499 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: the field, So I want to go back and watch 500 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: that and see how he did. I had picked down 501 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: there and saw a couple of nice catches. I don't 502 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: know if you've got a chance to see all that. 503 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: But so when you guys were talking about the one 504 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: of the ones on the other end, I went down 505 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: and I peeked at the tight ends and the linebackers, 506 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: and I will say that each one of those guys, 507 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: every Ingram and Howard had great days into one on ones. 508 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: From everything Ingram, what I saw Man, I saw a 509 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: lot of movement and wiggled at the top of their routes. 510 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: Um they able to separate and run away from guys 511 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: from O. J. Howard. I was more impressed with his 512 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: ability to track the ball down the field. He had 513 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: a couple of nice one hand grabs. He made a 514 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: nice adjustment on a d ball. UM. He looked good. 515 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he looked like the player that we've thought 516 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: that he could be. But he kind of put it 517 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: together with a solid performers on practice. By the way, 518 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and put this up early so 519 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: when we get back, Um, probably maybe maybe we can't 520 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: even wait till the combine. After the combine, when we 521 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: start pass to the draft. Last year, I mean, my 522 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: my favorite thing, one of my favorite things is usually 523 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: watching tape by ourselves. But during past season, me and 524 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: you get a chance to get in there and watch 525 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: some stuff when we get free time. I remember last year, 526 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: but I don't know if you remember this, but you 527 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: had one corner from the from the Senior Bowl last 528 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: year and you said, that's he said this dude. This 529 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: is a dude. Man, this is a legit dude. And 530 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: it was Tavon Young from Temple who ended up going 531 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: to the Ravens. They got a great value with him 532 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: and had a heck of a year. Yeah, I like, 533 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: I liked his footwork. Um when he came down, I 534 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: thought I thought he was quick, I thought he was dynamic. Um, 535 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, he was a really good player. And I 536 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: think there's some really good players down here at the 537 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: corner of position. We had an advantage of the South 538 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: where they made those guys play from off, and I 539 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: think they do some dudes that have not peddled before, 540 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: and they were very uncomfortable, you know, and they did 541 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: themselves a disservice because you want to see impal, you 542 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: want to see where they are. I was pleasantly surprised 543 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: rights being able to I didn't know that he could 544 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: do those things. But changes the way that I look 545 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: at him because his ability to play off, the way 546 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: he closed on the ball and made plays. Uh. You 547 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: couple that with the fact that he can get nose 548 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: and those and play pressed. Now he's a guy that 549 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: can fit in any scheme. And so as we continue 550 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: a dig on him and see some more of the 551 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: ball skills and the other stuff, I'm kind of excited 552 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: about what he showed. Yeah, he's my nineteenth overall players, 553 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: so I'm a big fan. He's somebody that's already graduated 554 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: high character. He's got a lot of production, he's ultra athletic, 555 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: um smart. I mean, he's he checks a lot of 556 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: the boxes. So I think he's kind of a ready 557 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: made player to get out there and uh and get 558 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: going very early in his career. Buck, So, I mean, 559 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: there's a there's a lot of guys the pad pads 560 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 1: come on tomorrow. Um, see how these running backs perform 561 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: and that's a little bit more of a true environment. 562 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: Quarterback wise, didn't get a great feel for any of them. 563 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: I thought Dobbs was a little bit better than I 564 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: anticipated in the morning from Tennessee Peterman. Uh, I didn't 565 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: get a great feel for him this afternoon. He's got 566 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: a live arm, though, so does so does Davis Webb Buck. 567 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: One thing I'm looking forward to is is tomorrow the 568 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: pads come on and uh, and then we're gonna get 569 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: a good chance to see these quarterbacks really performed, because 570 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: I know as a quarterback, I hated it when we 571 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: practice with shells with just shorts and shoulder pads, because 572 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: you don't get a true rush, and what happens is 573 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: you get everything gets clogged up to the the line experiment 574 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: I struggled to see. So you get the pads on, 575 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: everything gets a little bit clear. It's crisp. For it's faster, 576 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: and some people think that's a negative when it's faster, 577 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: I thought it actually made it a lot easier because 578 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: you'll have some more defined throwing lanes. Yeah, it will, 579 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: it will be easier. I think you you will see 580 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: people calm down. I actually think you'll see better performance. 581 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: I think the first day is always the worst day 582 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: because they are really, really nervous. I remember my time 583 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: in ninety four coming down here being really nervous, having 584 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: the butterflies, and I think it takes a while for 585 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: them to settle down. I want to see them in 586 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: paths because I want to see the physicality and toughness 587 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: of the offensive line. I want to see how the 588 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks react with potentially having rushers and bodies around them. 589 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: And I want to see how the guys actually can 590 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: work off of jams and work to get free down 591 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: the field. I think tomorrow would be a better day 592 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: from an evaluation standpoint for us. Who were you pumped 593 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: to see in your senior Bowl experience? Bucky? When you're 594 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: playing who is? When you got here, You're like mine. 595 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to either play with this guy or 596 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: go up against this guy. You know, it was crazy 597 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: because on my squad, UH, Marvin Grays was a quarterback. 598 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: Marvin Grays and Jim Miller, remember guys, and Marvin Grays 599 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: was a big time player running the freeze option in Syracuse. 600 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: Shelby Hill was a receiver that was there. Uh. Lake 601 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: Dawson and I were teammates, and Derek Alexander, who played 602 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: for a long time in the league, was out there. 603 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: So it was kind of funny to see those guys 604 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: and see some of the other guys that kind of 605 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: came through. But you know, I know you you talked 606 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: about guys top guys. You're playing this game because of 607 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: the competitiveness. I do believe you can kind of separate 608 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: yourself if your solid here the first two or three days. Um, 609 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: I think you kind of write your ticket in terms 610 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: of what kind of player, your draft status, and all 611 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: of that, because this is the last time we'll see 612 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: guys playing pads, and this memory is kind of a 613 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: lasting impression for you, no question. I agree with you, 614 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: buck Well. So we'll have the pads on tomorrow. The 615 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: plan right now, I don't want to make promises here, 616 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: but the plan is for us to do another audio 617 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: episode Thursday evening. UM, So we'll have a couple more 618 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: days of Senior Bowl practice to talk over, and I 619 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: don't know if we need to. I think we'll pass 620 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: on previewing the Pro Bowl. Buck I think I'm gonna 621 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: take a hard pass on that one. But we can 622 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: talk about what's going on down here. At the Senior 623 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: Bowl on Thursday, Lord Willing and uh, and then we'll 624 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: be back next week in the studio crank out some 625 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: some Super Bowl content. Hey man, I'm all about it. It 626 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: It sounds great for me, all right, man, let's uh, 627 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: let's say that's get an ice cream. Let's go get 628 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: an ice cream down here in Mobile. Me and Bucky, 629 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: Me and Bucky Brooks gonna go enjoy a little of 630 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: ice cream and maybe a maybe a malt, maybe a malt, 631 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: maybe a Mike shake. I don't know, who knows. We're 632 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: probably just gonna go to bed because we're tired. But 633 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening, thanks for downloading, and we'll 634 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: see you back hopefully later this week. Actually, before we 635 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: get out of here, Bucky, I just found out that 636 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: we do have the the interview here, the Cooper Cup Interview, 637 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: So we will sign off and let you listen to 638 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: one of the more impressive kids in this draft class, 639 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. Wide eiver from Eastern Washington, four hundred and 640 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: twenty eight catches and seventy three touchdowns. You wouldn't think 641 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: that Cooper Cup from Eastern Washington had anything to prove 642 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: Day one of the recent Senior Bowl. But Cooper, did 643 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: you and how did it go? Oh? Man, I know 644 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: it's fun being out here. Man, it's uh, you know, 645 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: a great opportunity. I love competing against uh, you know what, 646 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: what's perceived to be the best in the nation here 647 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: and there's some great players all the way through and 648 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: just be able to come out here strap the pads 649 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: up again, it's a real blessing. I'm usually you gotta 650 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: wait another full year to be able to do this, 651 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to be back out here. Cooper, 652 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: I've never met you, but I have a feeling you 653 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a monumental chip on your shoulder. 654 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: You're a Division one double a guy. The first tape 655 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: I put in was Oregon and you let them up. 656 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: Then this year Washington State, you let them up. You're 657 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: you get bright eyed when you talk about the competition 658 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: out here. Do you think you have some stuff to prove? Yeah? 659 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't like to think about it that way. Even 660 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: going up against those packed twelve schools, And any time 661 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: you play an FBS, I prepared the same way I 662 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: would have if I was going up against any other 663 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: FCS D two, D three. Uh So It's really just 664 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: a matter of just preparing and I was gonna be 665 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: me regardless of uh who was stepping on the field 666 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: with me. I always respect my opponent, and um so 667 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: even coming out here, you know, I respect these guys 668 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: and what they've done. And there's guys from all different 669 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: levels here too, which is just a little bit more 670 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: FBS and I'm used to. Uh So, really just coming 671 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: out here being me, being a player I've always been 672 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: and uh just you know, playing football since the season ended, Cooper, 673 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: what's the area you're trying to to really hone in 674 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: and improve on? And maybe you can use this week 675 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: to show the progress that you made. Yeah, well, as 676 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: a receiver, I always feel like I'm never good enough, 677 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, so there's always, you know, every part of 678 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: my game I'm trying to improve. And big part of 679 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: this coming up this next uh, taking this next step 680 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: is making sure I can create separation and I want 681 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: to be even better at that, something I've prided myself 682 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: on throughout the years in college, but even at this 683 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: next level, I want to take it even a step farther. 684 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: Make sure there's no wasted movement through any of my breaks, 685 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: and make sure I'm efficient through all of those. That's 686 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: one thing I really want to be focusing on and 687 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: something I've been working on over the last month or so. Hey, 688 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: Cooper is the guy in the end fell whose game 689 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: you think is similar to yours. And the second part 690 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: of the question is when we get to Indianapolis, what 691 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: are you gonna run in the forty Yeah? Well, I'm 692 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: sure you guys have probably heard this from every receiver 693 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: you talked to, but you know two receivers I really 694 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: look up to. I like the way they play is 695 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald Antonio Brown. And while I don't see myself 696 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: with a direct comparison to either one of those guys, 697 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: I love the way that those guys play the game. 698 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: Larry fitz in terms of understanding coverages, seeing how to 699 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: run his routes, and even before the place starts, understanding 700 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: leverage and how he's gonna separate where those open spots 701 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: are gonna be, even though now you know he can't 702 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: move as well as he probably did before, and uh 703 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: he might tell you differently, but uh, but then in 704 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: the way Antonio Brown is able, he's just his quickness, 705 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just a great athlete, even though he 706 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: doesn't have the size that Fitzgerald does, he finds ways 707 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: to separate uh even in a different ways. So Cop 708 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: somewhere between those two guys. Try to kind of build 709 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: my utility built around how those two guys play it. 710 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: Don't forget, I'm very confident I'm working hard with Ryan 711 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: Flaherty and how I'm I'm gonna get myself down there 712 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: around four or four the combine nice, real quick. Cooper. 713 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: I know you spent some time at the Manning Academy. 714 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: What have you learned from from those two great quarterbacks? Oh? Man, 715 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't want to go down there be 716 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: a sponge as much as I can as a receiver. 717 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: They're nice enough to let me sit here with all 718 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and learn what I can and try to 719 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: just sit back there and just soak it all up. 720 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: Those both those guys are just machines. And the way 721 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: they work, the way they attack the game, you can 722 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: just see the respect, the true respect they have for 723 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: the game, and that they're never satisfied with where they are. 724 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: They're always striving to get better. Even at the very 725 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: end of his career. There's always more uh in Eli. 726 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 1: Both of those guys can learn and and they know 727 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: that and there and they attack that in the off season. 728 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: And I think we see the respect Cooper Cup that 729 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: you have for the game as well. Best of luck 730 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: this week at the two seventeen Reese's Senior Bowl. And 731 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: I know you want to be Antonio Brown, but put 732 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: the phone down when you get in the locker room. Okay, yeah, 733 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: sounds good. Thank you for having me than you. 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