Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt, my name
Speaker 1: is Noel, and I am Ben. You are you that
Speaker 1: makes this stuff they don't want you to know? And
Speaker 1: that is right, ladies and gentlemen. Today we are finally
Speaker 1: taking a closer look at a phenomenon that you asked
Speaker 1: about and asked about on YouTube, asked about on Facebook,
Speaker 1: asked about on Twitter, asked about on UH in person encounters,
Speaker 1: yes they happen, and asked us about on email. The
Speaker 1: phenomenon known as ken trails. So let's tackle some definitions
Speaker 1: and some background first. So the first thing is you
Speaker 1: have probably seen what is purported to be a chem
Speaker 1: try all before. If you just look up in the
Speaker 1: sky wherever you live, doesn't matter how rural or metropolitan
Speaker 1: it is, you have seen as a jet or a
Speaker 1: plane has passed over, you see a trail that you
Speaker 1: can see. It's it's usually white or grayish um. It's
Speaker 1: believed by some to consist of some kind of chemical
Speaker 1: or biological agents that are not just vapor. They are.
Speaker 1: It's something that's being sprayed there on purpose, and it's
Speaker 1: a part of a covert operation done by some let's
Speaker 1: say government agency. So the definition there of a chem trail,
Speaker 1: kim trail is what's called a portmanteau. That's our word
Speaker 1: of the day. If we get a sound effect for that,
Speaker 1: what do you think? No one is that worthy have
Speaker 1: a sound effect? Okay, fair enough. A portmanteau is when
Speaker 1: two unrelated words are smushed together to make one word.
Speaker 1: A chem trail is a portmanteau in English, and it
Speaker 1: means it's it's short for chemical trail, a visible trail
Speaker 1: left in the sky by an aircraft and believed, as
Speaker 1: you said, Mett by some to consist of chemical or
Speaker 1: biological agents released as part of a covert operation. According
Speaker 1: to the true believers, kim trails contain some extra things.
Speaker 1: Let in water vapor, right, They contain things like barium
Speaker 1: or nano aluminum coated fiberglass with another cool nickname chaff.
Speaker 1: But that's not all, as Billy Mays was wont to say.
Speaker 1: But wait, there's more. I love that chaff is one
Speaker 1: of the things that's I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: learned about this in flight simulator video games. Maybe I'm
Speaker 1: the only one chaff. We're hearing about World War two
Speaker 1: fire fighter pilots that would release the stuff. I thought
Speaker 1: the chaff was the part of the weight that you
Speaker 1: didn't want. Yeah, it's like that. Yeah, it's the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's a way to prevent heat seeking missiles and other
Speaker 1: things to uh, well you want that, yeah you want
Speaker 1: you don't, Yeah, you know one other you know, and
Speaker 1: missiles seeking your heat? No, absolutely not, all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Well we'll get back in here. What else do we have?
Speaker 1: We have radioactive thorium, something that we've talked about before
Speaker 1: on this show, cadmium, chromium, lots of different chemicals here,
Speaker 1: nickel um, It could even be desiccated blood, polymer fibers,
Speaker 1: one of my favorites, to say, yellow fungal micro toxins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so you. You love to saying that you And
Speaker 1: also ethylene dibromide, of course, a classic for the fans
Speaker 1: out there. Even mold spores, even mold spores, all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff and nasty stuff, right, all chem trails. According
Speaker 1: to people who believe the chem trails are currently over
Speaker 1: the sky under which you reside. All chem trails are
Speaker 1: not the same. They may be made for different reasons.
Speaker 1: They might uh, they might be made as a way
Speaker 1: to assist in radar readings from high above the earth,
Speaker 1: or to prevent them sometimes use this cover. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are so many varying theories surrounding this thing, right,
Speaker 1: or mass vaccinations, which is interesting that ties into claims
Speaker 1: about fluoride and water or other chemicals in water, and
Speaker 1: also maybe more directly with the fluoride argument, poisoning the
Speaker 1: mind or hindering the mental functions of the public. But
Speaker 1: that's that's the chem trail. That's what we're talking about. Now,
Speaker 1: what's the thing that actually exists so for for really
Speaker 1: really real life. Um, these contrail which stands for a
Speaker 1: condensation trail. Another portmanteau. If you will, are you doing it?
Speaker 1: Are you still not going to do? Thank you? Thank you? Okay? Um?
Speaker 1: That was the sound effect. It was the sound of silence.
Speaker 1: And and some of these contrails they can contain stuff
Speaker 1: that you don't want. There's not out about that. You know,
Speaker 1: the water obviously primary ingredient, but they can also contain
Speaker 1: carbon dioxide, water, vapor and nitrogen oxides, carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons, methane, sulfates,
Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and soots and even metal particles. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because this condensation trail is a uh it's a stream
Speaker 1: of condensed water from an aircraft or rocket at high altitude.
Speaker 1: That's what you see if you look up in the
Speaker 1: sky and you see those straight lines drawn and as
Speaker 1: as you pointed out, all there are differing things in there.
Speaker 1: It's water, plus it's going to contain some byproducts of
Speaker 1: the fuel of you know, the things that make the
Speaker 1: plane go. It's coming out of the butt of a jet. Absolutely. So,
Speaker 1: I mean you could say that you don't have to
Speaker 1: look into you know, deep conspiracy theories to say that
Speaker 1: maybe there's some stuff in these trails that we don't want.
Speaker 1: But obviously it gets deeper and weirder. Oh yes, So
Speaker 1: when did this become a big deal. There were rumors
Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties that were spreading all across the
Speaker 1: internet as it was budding, and uh, there were conversations
Speaker 1: just people talking in the streets about this stuff. As
Speaker 1: they're looking up and seeing more and more. You're also
Speaker 1: seeing more and more air travel. There are more planes
Speaker 1: in the sky and more jets, more of these things
Speaker 1: to see and go, wow, why there are a lot
Speaker 1: of those, um and there's so many photographs. Right, we've
Speaker 1: all seen them, lads and gentlemen. Is it me? Or
Speaker 1: do they do? You tend to see them more often
Speaker 1: on smaller planes than you would, like a giant commercial
Speaker 1: jet liner. I feel like when I see them, it's
Speaker 1: usually behind a smaller plane, like a propel like a
Speaker 1: prop plane, a prop plane. Oh well, some of those
Speaker 1: maybe purposefully leaving that because there are skywriters, yeah, and
Speaker 1: there are they're also crop dusters. The contrail stuff or
Speaker 1: the chem trail stuff is high in the atmosphere where
Speaker 1: normally only a jet could go. I guess what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is I haven't seen a ton of these. When
Speaker 1: I've seen them, it's been on these smaller planes because
Speaker 1: you're not looking. I'm not. You're right, and one day
Speaker 1: piano is gonna fall on my head or an hand bill.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's gonna happen, man, It just a matter
Speaker 1: of time. I'm treading water here. We'll see if that
Speaker 1: medium was right. So the nineties right, right, exactly? Nail
Speaker 1: on the head in nine or should I say vapor
Speaker 1: on the plane. In people began accusing the US Air
Speaker 1: Force of springing chemicals over large swaths of land and
Speaker 1: in the United States. And a lot of these original
Speaker 1: claims come from citations found in a paper that was
Speaker 1: written for the Air University and it was called Weather
Speaker 1: as a Force Multiplier Owning the Weather in twenty five
Speaker 1: And this is publicly available, this is non classified. We
Speaker 1: will put up a link on our social media quick
Speaker 1: plug conspiracy stuff at Facebook and Twitter. You can also
Speaker 1: find it by searching f A s dot org and
Speaker 1: then a couple of keywords there force multiplier maybe whether
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Speaker 1: away from being fired. And if you get enough force
Speaker 1: multipliers you can unlock new achievements. That's true. A force multiplier,
Speaker 1: in both video games and in depart d D Department
Speaker 1: of Defense parlance, is something that accelerates or um, what's
Speaker 1: a better word to say it? Uh in Biggins, your
Speaker 1: your ability to make an impact overall to project force. So,
Speaker 1: as we said, this paper is publicly available, it's not
Speaker 1: classified at this point. It doesn't represent any current or
Speaker 1: past policy. I hope you can hear my disclaimer voice
Speaker 1: when I say that. However, this paper, this paper Weather
Speaker 1: as a Force Multiplier, owning the weather in was a
Speaker 1: response to a genuine military directive to evaluate and propose
Speaker 1: a plan for air dominance in specifically with regard to
Speaker 1: weather modification systems. And what's fascinating about that is, although
Speaker 1: you won't hear it reported very often, it's referred to
Speaker 1: as an historical footnote. The US, the West, the East,
Speaker 1: the world at large, all of the international powers have
Speaker 1: to some degree dabbled in or been made aware of
Speaker 1: other countries dabbling in weather modification cloud seating, every everyone
Speaker 1: from China to Russia to the US. Yeah, they've all
Speaker 1: been attempting different ways, and usually it has to do
Speaker 1: with spring stuff into the sky that's going to at
Speaker 1: least increase the possibility of precipitation in an area, right,
Speaker 1: like cloud seating. It's exactly like cloud seating, but it's
Speaker 1: been used for fascinating ways. In the Olympics. Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't remember if it was so key it was the
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight Olympics in Beijing. Yeah, yes, exactly
Speaker 1: where they were going to cloud seed around the areas
Speaker 1: where the Olympics were going to be held, so that
Speaker 1: it would rain over there and not where the Olympics
Speaker 1: were being held. I can cannot remember the specifics, however
Speaker 1: I do remember that technology. It was silver iodied, Yes,
Speaker 1: silver iodied, which apparently does have a measurable effect. However,
Speaker 1: the problem is that this is not a controllable effect,
Speaker 1: as we will find. So, so the the US forces
Speaker 1: have this paper that is public, non classified. It takes off.
Speaker 1: The Internet has learned how to communicate or misinform itself,
Speaker 1: and the story takes off like wildfire, like hot cakes.
Speaker 1: Can we talk at a minute about how viable this US,
Speaker 1: this Air Force plan seems. Now, doesn't that seem a
Speaker 1: little crack potty to you? Well, these you gotta think big, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, we live in a country thought the guy
Speaker 1: that came up with this got a pat on the
Speaker 1: back or our demotion. I think maybe they were just
Speaker 1: trying to get through Air University, or maybe maybe they
Speaker 1: went on to DARPA. So it's yeah, it's very possible
Speaker 1: they're at least forward thinking. We must never forget that
Speaker 1: we live in the same country which decided this is
Speaker 1: so embarrassing. International listeners we are not representatives of this
Speaker 1: land in any official capacity. However, we will tell you
Speaker 1: we live in a country that spent serious money trying
Speaker 1: to figure out whether there was a bomb that could
Speaker 1: make people gay. That is another speaking of crackpot ideas.
Speaker 1: That is the world in which we live. And let's
Speaker 1: not even get start trying to take the temperature of
Speaker 1: on the waste. Let's like if you get started on
Speaker 1: the ways people tried to kill Castro. Right, So observers
Speaker 1: and people were watching this guy and saying, is that
Speaker 1: just a contrail from a jet or is it ellipses?
Speaker 1: Something else began believing they possessed the ability to differentiate
Speaker 1: between a contrail and to kim trail, and there were
Speaker 1: some primary differences. One of the big differences was that
Speaker 1: kim trails allegedly stayed in the air much longer in
Speaker 1: that stripe pattern, right, that single stripe did not dissipate
Speaker 1: the way the water vapor would and contrails, according to
Speaker 1: this argument, anticipate in a matter of minutes. Another difference
Speaker 1: would be the existence of what's known as kim trail
Speaker 1: flew Smorgess board of flu like symptoms that believers argue
Speaker 1: as a result of exposure to these substances from the sky.
Speaker 1: We have a tangent for you. Well, the tangent is,
Speaker 1: why are we talking about this now? In talking about
Speaker 1: chim trails. They got big twenty years ago. And here's
Speaker 1: the thing. There are still there are people out there
Speaker 1: who truly believe this, and and we're we're not trying
Speaker 1: to trample on your beliefs. We're just pointing out that
Speaker 1: it became big again in two thousand and ten, I believe,
Speaker 1: is when What in the World Are They Spraying? Came out,
Speaker 1: which was a documentary and I remember hearing a lot
Speaker 1: about it at that time. We made a video about
Speaker 1: it a long time ago, and it's cropping up again
Speaker 1: in popular culture, the idea of chim trails, and that
Speaker 1: is because of the death of a beloved artist named
Speaker 1: Prince That's true. So Prince Um, you know, throughout his life,
Speaker 1: I think more so later in his life, became somewhat
Speaker 1: of a we'll call it a conspiracy theorist, and he
Speaker 1: talked pretty openly about the stuff and actually wrote songs
Speaker 1: about it. Um Kim Trails specifically, he's actually written Um
Speaker 1: lyrics referring to Kim trails in addition to other you know,
Speaker 1: conspiracy type phenomena. Um. And when he didn't interview with
Speaker 1: Tavis Smiling on PBS in two thousand nine, Um, he
Speaker 1: kind of launched into a bit of a diet tribe
Speaker 1: about Kim trails, in which he said, quote, you know,
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I used to see these
Speaker 1: trails in the sky all the time. A jet just
Speaker 1: went over, and then you started to see a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of them. Next thing, you know, everybody in your
Speaker 1: neighborhood was fighting and arguing and you didn't know why.
Speaker 1: So back to the Kim trail flew Prince early on
Speaker 1: in this leading up to his his death. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: had that said he had the flu. He canceled a
Speaker 1: concert right here in Atlanta, actually at the Fox Theater
Speaker 1: because he cleaned they had the flu, and then did
Speaker 1: the concert again. Um, and talked about at the concert
Speaker 1: saying I was a bit at the weather. Things like
Speaker 1: that the plane that he was on on the way
Speaker 1: back to m Paisley Park in Minnesota had to make
Speaker 1: an emergency landing because he's supposedly these flu like symptoms returned. Um.
Speaker 1: There are those on the internet that believe that his
Speaker 1: dialogue is his you know, speaking out about the Kim
Speaker 1: trail phenomenon could possibly have led to him being snuffed
Speaker 1: out by the powers that be. So that's one popular
Speaker 1: culture thing that's kind of brought this back into discussion.
Speaker 1: Another is, uh two celebrities actually another one who passed
Speaker 1: away recently, Merle Haggard, the country singer. He had a
Speaker 1: song um again later in his career called Things I
Speaker 1: Hate or what I Hate, And there's a lyric and
Speaker 1: it says, what I hate is looking up and seeing
Speaker 1: Kim Trail is in the clear blue sky today. And
Speaker 1: Chuck Norris actually wrote an op ed on w n
Speaker 1: D dot com called Sky Criminals in which he examines quote,
Speaker 1: geo engineering in the skies above us, and he, you know,
Speaker 1: goes into pretty great detail about the chemical makeup of
Speaker 1: these chem trails and how people are having the you know,
Speaker 1: will pulled over their eyes about the phenomenon the sky Criminals,
Speaker 1: by the sky criminals. I mean, if Chuck Norris is
Speaker 1: on the case, we have nothing to fear. Guys. He
Speaker 1: just you know, one kick and he's taken care of.
Speaker 1: And this is how he describes it, Chim Trails kim trailing,
Speaker 1: as the article refers to. It is quote the public's
Speaker 1: term for the classified an ongoing artificial modification of Earth's
Speaker 1: climate systems using reflective nano materials aerosols to reflect sunlight.
Speaker 1: The aerosols are dispersed via jet aircraft trails that expand
Speaker 1: into reflective artificial clouds. And that's actually interesting because that
Speaker 1: is a little more in line with the Air Force
Speaker 1: paper that you're talking about. It's yeah, interesting is definitely
Speaker 1: where this goes beyond just a pop culture thing though.
Speaker 1: We what we see is that if this begins to
Speaker 1: be UM an idea believed in by a mass swell
Speaker 1: of people, and if we see celebrities or if we
Speaker 1: see notable experts arguing for this, then of course against
Speaker 1: the attention of the world, which is why the government
Speaker 1: has to respond. The US address these concerns as those
Speaker 1: concerns grew, and they provided something you can read online
Speaker 1: right now, the Contrail fact sheet. UH. This was by
Speaker 1: the Air Force. There's more studies from NASA and independent
Speaker 1: scientists also investigated this phenomenon for our purposes, especially if
Speaker 1: you UH, if you're a person who believes or as
Speaker 1: evidence of UH chem trails interfering. Of course, it's difficult
Speaker 1: to believe the arguments of any US state sponsored entities,
Speaker 1: So the independent scientists or where you would want to
Speaker 1: go to try to find the most objective look at
Speaker 1: the truth. The vast majority concluded that the concept of
Speaker 1: purposefully spraying chemicals over such a large distance it's possible,
Speaker 1: but the problem is that it would not effectively achieve
Speaker 1: the results people feared Uncle Sam and other governments were chasing.
Speaker 1: Side note, you can also find a handy dandy contrail guide,
Speaker 1: because not all contrails are created the same, and the
Speaker 1: results you're talking about are manipulation of weather systems right
Speaker 1: or obstucation as Matt said, of radar detection or enhancement thereof,
Speaker 1: or just providing artificial cloud UH artificial high atmosphere coverage
Speaker 1: to interfere with foreign satellites. Foreign sate satellites are one
Speaker 1: of the few things about that that other governments are
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out how to um how to
Speaker 1: mitigate the influence of or hinder the effectiveness of. So,
Speaker 1: for instance, one thing to happen with Project Corona in
Speaker 1: what the sixties seventies UH. Project Corona was one of
Speaker 1: the first satellite observation operations in the US, and it
Speaker 1: was so we I think we we've done some shows
Speaker 1: about it. It It was so low tech at the time.
Speaker 1: The satellites would take pictures, literal photographs, and then physically
Speaker 1: dump the film, the negatives and cartridges, and someone would
Speaker 1: just have to go catch him and develop it and say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what's happening, and now to say v D two, yeah,
Speaker 1: nine seventy two. So it had some legs and went
Speaker 1: on for a while. So despite the government's efforts to
Speaker 1: say that we're not in any way obstucating satellite reads,
Speaker 1: we're not poisoning people, were not, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, all
Speaker 1: this has done very little to stem the swell of
Speaker 1: Kim trail conspiracies. You can find YouTube videos, you can
Speaker 1: find arguments that Kim trails are indeed ruining the world
Speaker 1: as we know it. And that makes us look, perhaps
Speaker 1: as you are looking up now, listener, as as we
Speaker 1: talk about the sky, perhaps you're tilting your head up
Speaker 1: to look. We don't know if it's day, we don't
Speaker 1: know if it's night, but there is a there is
Speaker 1: a fair chance that you're looking up and you're seeing
Speaker 1: some clouds and you're starting to look at them differently
Speaker 1: as you hear this. So while you were gazing up,
Speaker 1: if not now the next time, the do, Let's talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about spray in the sky. What what
Speaker 1: are the facts about the sky? Well, first, there's one
Speaker 1: inescapable facts here. The air is pretty filthy in a
Speaker 1: lot of places, so was the water. Contaminated soil is everywhere.
Speaker 1: The odds of being exposed to some sort of pesticide
Speaker 1: or contaminant, they are a lot higher than you might think.
Speaker 1: The US uses over a billion pounds of pesticides each year,
Speaker 1: and a lot of that gets sprayed. So of course
Speaker 1: that spraying isn't quite the same as this high powered jet. Uh,
Speaker 1: the idea of a high powered jet flying above the
Speaker 1: earth far enough to far enough to treat to create
Speaker 1: a contrailer, chimp trail, what have you? Um? Second, the
Speaker 1: differences in air quality around the country, the variations and
Speaker 1: maybe your country as well. Um, they're very very very different,
Speaker 1: wide range of air qualities, mountains, coasts, time of year,
Speaker 1: depending on what kind of area you live in, whether
Speaker 1: it's urban, how much manufacturing there is, all of these
Speaker 1: factors are important, and they can hugely affect the quality
Speaker 1: of the air that you breathe for sure. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we you know, that's why there are small alerts in
Speaker 1: some cities more often than in others. That's that's a
Speaker 1: pretty basic thing we can all agree upon. But there's
Speaker 1: a third fact and this is the disturbing one. While
Speaker 1: Kim trail believers may not be completely correct, and all
Speaker 1: of the claims right there are because there are a
Speaker 1: wealth of claims that are ranged from disturbing ly plausible
Speaker 1: two maybe possible to what yeah, and and they stack
Speaker 1: in varying ways sometimes, so you'll have you'll have an
Speaker 1: extremely plausible claim right next to something that is the
Speaker 1: huh um. So you have to really watch out. So
Speaker 1: one caveat here is that several things presented as evidence
Speaker 1: simply do not measure up, such as the infamous lithium
Speaker 1: call with a NASA employee, which you can read about
Speaker 1: right now on snopes dot com, where in uh wherein
Speaker 1: some people claim that they had a confession that the
Speaker 1: US that Uncle Sam was spreading lithium around the population,
Speaker 1: just spraying it into the air and saying, I don't
Speaker 1: know whatever, Yeah, and the thing to realize that these ideas,
Speaker 1: especially if you're a person who thinks you are skeptic
Speaker 1: or a person who thinks you have arrived at the
Speaker 1: inescapable truth about chem trails and you feel like no
Speaker 1: one is listening to you. There there's something that both
Speaker 1: sides must admit that these ideas are not some kind
Speaker 1: of malarky or nonsense coming out of nowhere, nor the
Speaker 1: attempts for someone to be the discoverer of a hidden
Speaker 1: truth which the Internet loves. Uh, nor they all a
Speaker 1: bunch of people trolling in some crappy joe. Okay, But then,
Speaker 1: as you know, there is a reason for all this.
Speaker 1: More than a reason. There's actually precedent, and we'll get
Speaker 1: to that when we come right back from a quick break.
Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy. The US really did poison
Speaker 1: human civilian populations with mass spraying with chemicals. We can't
Speaker 1: emphasize this enough, folks, So let's try again. Something like
Speaker 1: kim trails was real, proven And this is not some
Speaker 1: archaic future plan written by Chris Carter, the inventor of
Speaker 1: X files, or one of those military madmen proposed it
Speaker 1: and came scary close kind of things. Uh. This actually
Speaker 1: happened multiple times over the course of the nineteen fifties
Speaker 1: and the sixties. The you S government dusted American cities,
Speaker 1: maybe one in which you lived today, if you were
Speaker 1: a US citizen with something called sinc cadmium sulfide. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a part of an operation. It was Operation
Speaker 1: l a C or Large Area Coverage, and it started
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty seven. However, that wasn't the first time
Speaker 1: they did it. There were earlier experiments. Back in September
Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty the US played some war games in California.
Speaker 1: They had six simulated attacks there. They were conducted in
Speaker 1: the Bay Area. They wanted to evaluate the feasibility of
Speaker 1: launching biological aerosol agents from off shore. So attacking the
Speaker 1: US with biological agents, what would that look like? Would
Speaker 1: it work exactly? And over the course of March and
Speaker 1: April in nineteen fifty two, the US conducted multiple trials,
Speaker 1: five trials off the coast of South Carolina and to
Speaker 1: our unending discomfort, Georgia, in a project called Operation Do
Speaker 1: Right Yes Great Point d e w uh. And the
Speaker 1: idea here was the one to see if they could
Speaker 1: prove that long range aerosol clouds could obtain hundreds of
Speaker 1: miles of travel and cover a large area when they
Speaker 1: were launched from ground level, and they wanted to see
Speaker 1: how the weather would affect that, and this project was
Speaker 1: rated successful. Got another example before Operation l a C
Speaker 1: even really begins in nineteen fifty seven, an operation on
Speaker 1: the North Sea, which is um the east coast of Britain,
Speaker 1: showed that large area coverage with particles was possible under
Speaker 1: most weather conditions. And the inaugural event for Operation l
Speaker 1: a C is the same year, seven December two, the
Speaker 1: US takes uh An Air an airplane called a flying
Speaker 1: box car that's a C one nineteen that was loaned
Speaker 1: from the Air Force to the military from South Dakota
Speaker 1: to Minnesota, and they wanted to trace the spread of
Speaker 1: particles as verified from stations on the ground. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: testing to see what can we know if this is occurring?
Speaker 1: What do we see from the ground level, right, and
Speaker 1: there's a you know, there's a defensible position there too.
Speaker 1: What if a for an agent or domestic domestic criminal
Speaker 1: attempts to poison entire city? How far would they get?
Speaker 1: The particles they used were fluorescence was easy to track them.
Speaker 1: But what did they find, Well, they found some disturbing stuff. Man.
Speaker 1: They drifted over a thousand miles away, all the way
Speaker 1: north into Canada. The particles, the part of yeah, the
Speaker 1: particles that were being sprayed from this C one nine team,
Speaker 1: the zinc cadmium sulf exactly and in a normal flight
Speaker 1: released about five thousand pounds of this stuff. You can
Speaker 1: learn more about this in a book called The Eleventh Plague.
Speaker 1: But this one, you know, this one and year old
Speaker 1: flight wouldn't be such a big deal if they hadn't
Speaker 1: also tested similar things in Texas, the San Francisco Bay
Speaker 1: area and St. Louis. Can we talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about St. Louis. According to professor Lisa Martino Taylor, St
Speaker 1: Louis got an upgrade. Um, there's zinc cadmium self. I
Speaker 1: had contained radioactive particles. Oh boy. Yes. Specifically, the radioactive
Speaker 1: compound was something known as radium two to six, manufactured
Speaker 1: by a company called in Burst of Creativity US Radium.
Speaker 1: The Army called this substance FP twenty two sixty six.
Speaker 1: So then in Corpus Christie, the chemical was dropped from
Speaker 1: airplanes over large areas of the city Um and St. Louis.
Speaker 1: The Army put chemical sprayers on buildings, schools, public housing
Speaker 1: projects and mounted them in station wagons for mobile use.
Speaker 1: And a little note here, the majority of the spring
Speaker 1: that was occurring there in St. Louis, it was done
Speaker 1: in low income minority areas, right, including the infamous prow
Speaker 1: Ingo Complex. Uh this Professor Martino Taylor argues that over
Speaker 1: seventy of the residents of the complex were children under
Speaker 1: the age of twelve at the time. So that's that's
Speaker 1: the thing, that's the disturbing. Here's where it gets crazy. Thing.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who like to say, oh,
Speaker 1: Kim Trail enthusiast or Kim Trail believers, because they don't
Speaker 1: believe enthusiasts is the correct word. Are ignoring science, are
Speaker 1: just becoming hysterical over something. Yet there is proven precedent
Speaker 1: this stuff happened. The US government purposefully, purposefully experimented on
Speaker 1: people without their consent, without their knowledge. We have an
Speaker 1: episode on human Experimentation that examined some other examples of this.
Speaker 1: We do mention the St. Louis event. Yeah, so where
Speaker 1: does that leave us? Though? Guys? The idea that there
Speaker 1: would be contrails actually just jet exhaust the lack of
Speaker 1: better word, a jet bride product versus chem trails. Do
Speaker 1: we have any like pros and cons or what? What
Speaker 1: do you guys think? So, okay, I would say the
Speaker 1: big problem is if you go online right now search
Speaker 1: cam trails, you're gonna see a ton of videos that
Speaker 1: I would say, I would I think objectively those are contrails,
Speaker 1: and the person thinks they're chem trails. Um, it's usually
Speaker 1: in a fairly occupied area metropolitan area, and it's just
Speaker 1: you see where jets travel, and there's probably an airport
Speaker 1: that goes, you know, connects up to another airport near there.
Speaker 1: I can objectively say that it's a person who believes
Speaker 1: it's the chem trail, but I think it's a contrail.
Speaker 1: But when you bring in this history of testing, and
Speaker 1: let's say even the need for the air force or
Speaker 1: the military to test some of these things, uh to
Speaker 1: understand their own readiness for a foreign attacker or even
Speaker 1: a domestic terrorist or something like that, you okay, you
Speaker 1: try and balance these two things. There's obviously, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: not as many chem trails as some people would believe.
Speaker 1: But I do not think it's a completely made up thing. Whatsoever,
Speaker 1: I believe that there. I think there are some things
Speaker 1: that are being tested, probably even now today. I suppoish
Speaker 1: the government would make it easier for us and make
Speaker 1: them like green or orange or something, you know, like
Speaker 1: that Zeen and Batman. So you just know unequivocally, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a bad one. Stay away from that. Well, we
Speaker 1: do know that classified experiments are conducted in near space,
Speaker 1: in outer space, and in the upper reaches of the atmosphere,
Speaker 1: and have been for some time. However, the motivation of
Speaker 1: poisoning controlling the public is is a con to me
Speaker 1: because there's not an effective way to control a dose, right.
Speaker 1: And another con would be the old Nimby argument. Nimbia
Speaker 1: is an acronym that means not in my backyard. So
Speaker 1: let us suppose that there is some sort of elite
Speaker 1: or some factions, some inner cabal that would say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great idea, let's dose everyone with lithium. Well,
Speaker 1: guess what, buddy, you're everyone. You you're not wealthy enough
Speaker 1: to buy your own sky. It's one of the it's
Speaker 1: one of the last things that will remain for the people, right,
Speaker 1: even you know what. I hope that's correct. But then
Speaker 1: there's there's a pro. And the big pro to your point, Matt,
Speaker 1: is that this technology is already available. The argument is
Speaker 1: over the motive and whether it would be effective, like
Speaker 1: to what ends, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: it's definitely more in the testing kind of thing, the
Speaker 1: testing for military capability and prevention of attack. That's my
Speaker 1: personal thought because it makes sense to me. But it's
Speaker 1: just like cloud seating. It would be impossible to control
Speaker 1: with the precision needed until it's not until it's not right.
Speaker 1: There only level three sky room. They're trying to level up,
Speaker 1: unlock them achievements. Son, No, I mean, I guess say
Speaker 1: what Matt's saying entirely. I mean, you're even if something
Speaker 1: you know, as I said at the top of the show,
Speaker 1: seems very pun intended Pie in the sky A no, brown,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, is that you're never gonna actually further
Speaker 1: your understanding of it unless you try it a whole
Speaker 1: bunch and you know, try out different variables. Who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe in twenty thirty years the government will be able
Speaker 1: to control the weather. I don't know. You just got
Speaker 1: to have a large enough black budget to pump funds
Speaker 1: for teams to continually you know, hit their head against
Speaker 1: the walls. We see, yeah, right now. I love that.
Speaker 1: You say, maybe it'll be feasible to control the weather,
Speaker 1: right or maybe even feasible to control a large population
Speaker 1: or area. One thing we didn't mention was the concept
Speaker 1: that this is being used to to that point earlier,
Speaker 1: to geoengineer crops or something. Maybe they'll be able to
Speaker 1: control it. Maybe someone will, But the problem is right now,
Speaker 1: the best any publicly known UM, any publicly known institution,
Speaker 1: whether private or state sponsor, can do is to influence
Speaker 1: things very much like again observation we've used or comparison
Speaker 1: we've used on the show before, very much like Mickey
Speaker 1: Malice as the Wizard in Fantasia makes a broom, tries
Speaker 1: to destroy the broom, and all of a sudden there
Speaker 1: are a million frigging brooms. This is not you know,
Speaker 1: this is not a situation wherein there is a precision.
Speaker 1: So well, it goes by something that our buddy Jonathan
Speaker 1: Strickland I have just talked about several times UM in
Speaker 1: his opinion and you know, based on a lot of
Speaker 1: sciencests out there in order to legitimately influence the weather
Speaker 1: or control it in any kind of way that could
Speaker 1: reasonably be considered predictable or control, you would have to
Speaker 1: pop so much energy into that system to the point
Speaker 1: where it would just be a wash. I mean, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be effication, yeah at all. So what do you think,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. This is our quick and dirty intro
Speaker 1: to chim trails. And even now, like a contrail, it
Speaker 1: may be beginning to dissipate from your mind. Or perhaps
Speaker 1: this episode will be a chem trail, or the lithium
Speaker 1: might just be kicking in, or the lithium might just
Speaker 1: be kicking in, And maybe this will stay with you,
Speaker 1: maybe you will look at the sky differently, but when
Speaker 1: you look back down, we want to hear from you.
Speaker 1: Let us know your experiences. Do you feel that you
Speaker 1: have seen a chem trail? Do you feel that chim
Speaker 1: trails are bunk? Do you feel that you have experience
Speaker 1: the influence of this thing? If you if you believe
Speaker 1: in this phenomenon, and if you have any evidence, Let's
Speaker 1: say you shot some video or some photos. Hey, why
Speaker 1: not send it over before you fly a plane? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: kim trails maybe you worked on one of the operations
Speaker 1: and you want to anonymously send us something. Huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we should really get a snapchat. Or maybe you just
Speaker 1: want us to, you know, wish your loved one happy birthday.
Speaker 1: We can do all of those things on shut up corners.
Speaker 1: Today's first shout out goes to Maurice from Delaware. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm Maurice. Shout out to Maurice, and I'm in Delaware.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work. I don't think you know everyone.
Speaker 1: You know what, No people did get it. We did
Speaker 1: see Wayne's World when it came out in the nineties.
Speaker 1: I thought it was good. I think that's part of
Speaker 1: the reason Maurice writes him. What's he saying, Well, Maurice's
Speaker 1: in addition to groaning and rolling his eyes at my
Speaker 1: constant Delaware joke, I'm sure there's lots going on. And
Speaker 1: it's a good joke. That's not even my joke. It's
Speaker 1: a good reference. That's better. That's it is a good reference.
Speaker 1: So Maurice says that there are two main reasons that
Speaker 1: big businesses use Delaware as headquarters. Okay, this is also
Speaker 1: about something not a joke, but that pertains Dela really,
Speaker 1: we've talked about um number one, the ridiculous ease with
Speaker 1: which you can incorporate in Delaware that makes perfect sense
Speaker 1: and be the las Fair corporate taxation system. And we
Speaker 1: have said that, but I need a little I still
Speaker 1: want to look into that a little more, he said.
Speaker 1: He was confirming, and he went to school and was
Speaker 1: learning about all of that stuff, in particular how easy
Speaker 1: it is to incorporate. That I understand and I knew that,
Speaker 1: but this I I wouldn't. Whatever. I read articles about this,
Speaker 1: they're always like, oh, it's just easy. You can just
Speaker 1: do whatever in Delaware. It's fine. Just don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: What happened did Delaware? Stays in Delaware. That's exactly so,
Speaker 1: he says, we should look at the Wilmington, Delaware where
Speaker 1: you can find the heart of banking conspiracies. Yeah, thanks
Speaker 1: so much for writing in Maurice. Maybe this is an
Speaker 1: episode in the future. What do you think I'm interested
Speaker 1: in Wilmington's We're doing an episode on Delaware. You know
Speaker 1: what we should Well, let's you know what we should
Speaker 1: look into it, if only to discover new Delaware jokes.
Speaker 1: I have to be at least one. I'm sure, there's several.
Speaker 1: Send us your favorite Delaware just the one about what
Speaker 1: a Delaware You know state jokes? Remember state jokes? I
Speaker 1: remember state jokes. I can't remember the punch line is
Speaker 1: no Delaware address or something. We're gonna find these jokes happen.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find a few. Everybody held us out fighting
Speaker 1: Delaware jokes. What else do we have? Just the last thing?
Speaker 1: I looked up Wilmington, Delaware, because what is he talking about?
Speaker 1: He mentions that it's has an alternative name as murder Town, USA.
Speaker 1: And apparently crime is so high in this tiny little
Speaker 1: town in Delaware that, he says our listener Maurice says
Speaker 1: that it's because the banks get whatever they want there
Speaker 1: and whatever regulations and all this other stuff. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm certainly interested. Uh. And who do we
Speaker 1: have next? Evan wrote to us and he wants us
Speaker 1: to tackle the Johnny Ghosh case, which is a dark one.
Speaker 1: You might have heard of the Franklin scandal, the child
Speaker 1: prostitution ring. Well, Johnny Ghosh was the I guess, the
Speaker 1: first person that was involved with this where it became
Speaker 1: a big story because of the work of his mother
Speaker 1: associated with it, right, Yes, they're hard evidence. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know there's not hard evidence that he is a part
Speaker 1: of this because he disappeared, right, It's all. It's somewhat
Speaker 1: conjecture there. It's a rabbit hole though. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Even just writing this out, I started kind of going
Speaker 1: down because we've looked at it before. Um, just personally,
Speaker 1: I know you and I have looked at the Franklin case,
Speaker 1: but he wants us to do it. It's pretty dark
Speaker 1: for this show, but I don't know if you want
Speaker 1: us to let us know. Yeah, uh, and Johnny Gosh
Speaker 1: went missing. In our final shout out comes from a
Speaker 1: Jay who says, Hi, guys, I'm Lata or Lanea from Nigeria.
Speaker 1: I love listening to you guys, and I share it
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