1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Welcome 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: back to the show. My name is Matt, my name 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: is Noel, and I am Ben. You are you that 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: makes this stuff they don't want you to know? And 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: that is right, ladies and gentlemen. Today we are finally 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: taking a closer look at a phenomenon that you asked 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: about and asked about on YouTube, asked about on Facebook, 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: asked about on Twitter, asked about on UH in person encounters, 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: yes they happen, and asked us about on email. The 12 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: phenomenon known as ken trails. So let's tackle some definitions 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: and some background first. So the first thing is you 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: have probably seen what is purported to be a chem 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: try all before. If you just look up in the 16 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: sky wherever you live, doesn't matter how rural or metropolitan 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: it is, you have seen as a jet or a 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: plane has passed over, you see a trail that you 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: can see. It's it's usually white or grayish um. It's 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: believed by some to consist of some kind of chemical 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: or biological agents that are not just vapor. They are. 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: It's something that's being sprayed there on purpose, and it's 23 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: a part of a covert operation done by some let's 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: say government agency. So the definition there of a chem trail, 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: kim trail is what's called a portmanteau. That's our word 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: of the day. If we get a sound effect for that, 27 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: what do you think? No one is that worthy have 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: a sound effect? Okay, fair enough. A portmanteau is when 29 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: two unrelated words are smushed together to make one word. 30 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: A chem trail is a portmanteau in English, and it 31 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: means it's it's short for chemical trail, a visible trail 32 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: left in the sky by an aircraft and believed, as 33 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: you said, Mett by some to consist of chemical or 34 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: biological agents released as part of a covert operation. According 35 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: to the true believers, kim trails contain some extra things. 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: Let in water vapor, right, They contain things like barium 37 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: or nano aluminum coated fiberglass with another cool nickname chaff. 38 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: But that's not all, as Billy Mays was wont to say. 39 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: But wait, there's more. I love that chaff is one 40 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: of the things that's I don't know if you guys 41 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: learned about this in flight simulator video games. Maybe I'm 42 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: the only one chaff. We're hearing about World War two 43 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: fire fighter pilots that would release the stuff. I thought 44 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: the chaff was the part of the weight that you 45 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: didn't want. Yeah, it's like that. Yeah, it's the same thing. 46 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: It's a way to prevent heat seeking missiles and other 47 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: things to uh, well you want that, yeah you want 48 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: you don't, Yeah, you know one other you know, and 49 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: missiles seeking your heat? No, absolutely not, all right, I'm sorry. 50 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Well we'll get back in here. What else do we have? 51 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: We have radioactive thorium, something that we've talked about before 52 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: on this show, cadmium, chromium, lots of different chemicals here, 53 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: nickel um, It could even be desiccated blood, polymer fibers, 54 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: one of my favorites, to say, yellow fungal micro toxins. Yeah, 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: that's so you. You love to saying that you And 56 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: also ethylene dibromide, of course, a classic for the fans 57 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: out there. Even mold spores, even mold spores, all kinds 58 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: of stuff and nasty stuff, right, all chem trails. According 59 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: to people who believe the chem trails are currently over 60 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: the sky under which you reside. All chem trails are 61 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: not the same. They may be made for different reasons. 62 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: They might uh, they might be made as a way 63 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: to assist in radar readings from high above the earth, 64 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: or to prevent them sometimes use this cover. I mean, 65 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: there are so many varying theories surrounding this thing, right, 66 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: or mass vaccinations, which is interesting that ties into claims 67 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: about fluoride and water or other chemicals in water, and 68 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: also maybe more directly with the fluoride argument, poisoning the 69 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: mind or hindering the mental functions of the public. But 70 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: that's that's the chem trail. That's what we're talking about. Now, 71 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: what's the thing that actually exists so for for really 72 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: really real life. Um, these contrail which stands for a 73 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: condensation trail. Another portmanteau. If you will, are you doing it? 74 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: Are you still not going to do? Thank you? Thank you? Okay? Um? 75 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: That was the sound effect. It was the sound of silence. 76 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: And and some of these contrails they can contain stuff 77 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: that you don't want. There's not out about that. You know, 78 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 1: the water obviously primary ingredient, but they can also contain 79 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: carbon dioxide, water, vapor and nitrogen oxides, carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons, methane, sulfates, 80 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and soots and even metal particles. Right, Yeah, 81 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: because this condensation trail is a uh it's a stream 82 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: of condensed water from an aircraft or rocket at high altitude. 83 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: That's what you see if you look up in the 84 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: sky and you see those straight lines drawn and as 85 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: as you pointed out, all there are differing things in there. 86 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: It's water, plus it's going to contain some byproducts of 87 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: the fuel of you know, the things that make the 88 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: plane go. It's coming out of the butt of a jet. Absolutely. So, 89 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean you could say that you don't have to 90 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: look into you know, deep conspiracy theories to say that 91 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: maybe there's some stuff in these trails that we don't want. 92 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: But obviously it gets deeper and weirder. Oh yes, So 93 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: when did this become a big deal. There were rumors 94 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties that were spreading all across the 95 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: internet as it was budding, and uh, there were conversations 96 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: just people talking in the streets about this stuff. As 97 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: they're looking up and seeing more and more. You're also 98 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: seeing more and more air travel. There are more planes 99 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: in the sky and more jets, more of these things 100 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: to see and go, wow, why there are a lot 101 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: of those, um and there's so many photographs. Right, we've 102 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: all seen them, lads and gentlemen. Is it me? Or 103 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: do they do? You tend to see them more often 104 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: on smaller planes than you would, like a giant commercial 105 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: jet liner. I feel like when I see them, it's 106 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: usually behind a smaller plane, like a propel like a 107 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: prop plane, a prop plane. Oh well, some of those 108 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: maybe purposefully leaving that because there are skywriters, yeah, and 109 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: there are they're also crop dusters. The contrail stuff or 110 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: the chem trail stuff is high in the atmosphere where 111 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: normally only a jet could go. I guess what I'm 112 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: saying is I haven't seen a ton of these. When 113 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: I've seen them, it's been on these smaller planes because 114 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: you're not looking. I'm not. You're right, and one day 115 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: piano is gonna fall on my head or an hand bill. 116 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's gonna happen, man, It just a matter 117 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: of time. I'm treading water here. We'll see if that 118 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: medium was right. So the nineties right, right, exactly? Nail 119 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: on the head in nine or should I say vapor 120 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: on the plane. In people began accusing the US Air 121 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: Force of springing chemicals over large swaths of land and 122 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: in the United States. And a lot of these original 123 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: claims come from citations found in a paper that was 124 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: written for the Air University and it was called Weather 125 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: as a Force Multiplier Owning the Weather in twenty five 126 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: And this is publicly available, this is non classified. We 127 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: will put up a link on our social media quick 128 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: plug conspiracy stuff at Facebook and Twitter. You can also 129 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: find it by searching f A s dot org and 130 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: then a couple of keywords there force multiplier maybe whether 131 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: yeah please? Uh? Do also like or follow our Twitter 132 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: and Facebook feeds because he gets this one step further 133 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: away from being fired. And if you get enough force 134 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: multipliers you can unlock new achievements. That's true. A force multiplier, 135 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: in both video games and in depart d D Department 136 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: of Defense parlance, is something that accelerates or um, what's 137 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: a better word to say it? Uh in Biggins, your 138 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: your ability to make an impact overall to project force. So, 139 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: as we said, this paper is publicly available, it's not 140 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: classified at this point. It doesn't represent any current or 141 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: past policy. I hope you can hear my disclaimer voice 142 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: when I say that. However, this paper, this paper Weather 143 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: as a Force Multiplier, owning the weather in was a 144 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: response to a genuine military directive to evaluate and propose 145 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: a plan for air dominance in specifically with regard to 146 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: weather modification systems. And what's fascinating about that is, although 147 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: you won't hear it reported very often, it's referred to 148 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: as an historical footnote. The US, the West, the East, 149 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: the world at large, all of the international powers have 150 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: to some degree dabbled in or been made aware of 151 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: other countries dabbling in weather modification cloud seating, every everyone 152 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: from China to Russia to the US. Yeah, they've all 153 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: been attempting different ways, and usually it has to do 154 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: with spring stuff into the sky that's going to at 155 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: least increase the possibility of precipitation in an area, right, 156 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: like cloud seating. It's exactly like cloud seating, but it's 157 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: been used for fascinating ways. In the Olympics. Maybe I 158 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: don't remember if it was so key it was the 159 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight Olympics in Beijing. Yeah, yes, exactly 160 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: where they were going to cloud seed around the areas 161 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: where the Olympics were going to be held, so that 162 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: it would rain over there and not where the Olympics 163 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: were being held. I can cannot remember the specifics, however 164 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: I do remember that technology. It was silver iodied, Yes, 165 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: silver iodied, which apparently does have a measurable effect. However, 166 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: the problem is that this is not a controllable effect, 167 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: as we will find. So, so the the US forces 168 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: have this paper that is public, non classified. It takes off. 169 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: The Internet has learned how to communicate or misinform itself, 170 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: and the story takes off like wildfire, like hot cakes. 171 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: Can we talk at a minute about how viable this US, 172 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: this Air Force plan seems. Now, doesn't that seem a 173 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: little crack potty to you? Well, these you gotta think big, right, 174 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we live in a country thought the guy 175 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: that came up with this got a pat on the 176 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: back or our demotion. I think maybe they were just 177 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: trying to get through Air University, or maybe maybe they 178 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: went on to DARPA. So it's yeah, it's very possible 179 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: they're at least forward thinking. We must never forget that 180 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: we live in the same country which decided this is 181 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: so embarrassing. International listeners we are not representatives of this 182 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: land in any official capacity. However, we will tell you 183 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: we live in a country that spent serious money trying 184 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: to figure out whether there was a bomb that could 185 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: make people gay. That is another speaking of crackpot ideas. 186 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: That is the world in which we live. And let's 187 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: not even get start trying to take the temperature of 188 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: on the waste. Let's like if you get started on 189 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: the ways people tried to kill Castro. Right, So observers 190 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: and people were watching this guy and saying, is that 191 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: just a contrail from a jet or is it ellipses? 192 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: Something else began believing they possessed the ability to differentiate 193 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: between a contrail and to kim trail, and there were 194 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: some primary differences. One of the big differences was that 195 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: kim trails allegedly stayed in the air much longer in 196 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: that stripe pattern, right, that single stripe did not dissipate 197 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: the way the water vapor would and contrails, according to 198 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: this argument, anticipate in a matter of minutes. Another difference 199 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: would be the existence of what's known as kim trail 200 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: flew Smorgess board of flu like symptoms that believers argue 201 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: as a result of exposure to these substances from the sky. 202 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: We have a tangent for you. Well, the tangent is, 203 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: why are we talking about this now? In talking about 204 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: chim trails. They got big twenty years ago. And here's 205 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: the thing. There are still there are people out there 206 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: who truly believe this, and and we're we're not trying 207 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: to trample on your beliefs. We're just pointing out that 208 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: it became big again in two thousand and ten, I believe, 209 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: is when What in the World Are They Spraying? Came out, 210 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: which was a documentary and I remember hearing a lot 211 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: about it at that time. We made a video about 212 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: it a long time ago, and it's cropping up again 213 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: in popular culture, the idea of chim trails, and that 214 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: is because of the death of a beloved artist named 215 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: Prince That's true. So Prince Um, you know, throughout his life, 216 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: I think more so later in his life, became somewhat 217 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: of a we'll call it a conspiracy theorist, and he 218 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: talked pretty openly about the stuff and actually wrote songs 219 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: about it. Um Kim Trails specifically, he's actually written Um 220 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: lyrics referring to Kim trails in addition to other you know, 221 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: conspiracy type phenomena. Um. And when he didn't interview with 222 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Tavis Smiling on PBS in two thousand nine, Um, he 223 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: kind of launched into a bit of a diet tribe 224 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: about Kim trails, in which he said, quote, you know, 225 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I used to see these 226 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: trails in the sky all the time. A jet just 227 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: went over, and then you started to see a whole 228 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: bunch of them. Next thing, you know, everybody in your 229 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: neighborhood was fighting and arguing and you didn't know why. 230 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: So back to the Kim trail flew Prince early on 231 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: in this leading up to his his death. Um, you know, 232 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: had that said he had the flu. He canceled a 233 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: concert right here in Atlanta, actually at the Fox Theater 234 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: because he cleaned they had the flu, and then did 235 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: the concert again. Um, and talked about at the concert 236 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: saying I was a bit at the weather. Things like 237 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: that the plane that he was on on the way 238 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: back to m Paisley Park in Minnesota had to make 239 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: an emergency landing because he's supposedly these flu like symptoms returned. Um. 240 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: There are those on the internet that believe that his 241 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: dialogue is his you know, speaking out about the Kim 242 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: trail phenomenon could possibly have led to him being snuffed 243 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: out by the powers that be. So that's one popular 244 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: culture thing that's kind of brought this back into discussion. 245 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: Another is, uh two celebrities actually another one who passed 246 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: away recently, Merle Haggard, the country singer. He had a 247 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: song um again later in his career called Things I 248 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: Hate or what I Hate, And there's a lyric and 249 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: it says, what I hate is looking up and seeing 250 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: Kim Trail is in the clear blue sky today. And 251 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: Chuck Norris actually wrote an op ed on w n 252 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: D dot com called Sky Criminals in which he examines quote, 253 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: geo engineering in the skies above us, and he, you know, 254 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: goes into pretty great detail about the chemical makeup of 255 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: these chem trails and how people are having the you know, 256 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: will pulled over their eyes about the phenomenon the sky Criminals, 257 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: by the sky criminals. I mean, if Chuck Norris is 258 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: on the case, we have nothing to fear. Guys. He 259 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: just you know, one kick and he's taken care of. 260 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: And this is how he describes it, Chim Trails kim trailing, 261 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: as the article refers to. It is quote the public's 262 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: term for the classified an ongoing artificial modification of Earth's 263 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: climate systems using reflective nano materials aerosols to reflect sunlight. 264 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: The aerosols are dispersed via jet aircraft trails that expand 265 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: into reflective artificial clouds. And that's actually interesting because that 266 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: is a little more in line with the Air Force 267 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: paper that you're talking about. It's yeah, interesting is definitely 268 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: where this goes beyond just a pop culture thing though. 269 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: We what we see is that if this begins to 270 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: be UM an idea believed in by a mass swell 271 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: of people, and if we see celebrities or if we 272 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: see notable experts arguing for this, then of course against 273 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: the attention of the world, which is why the government 274 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: has to respond. The US address these concerns as those 275 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: concerns grew, and they provided something you can read online 276 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: right now, the Contrail fact sheet. UH. This was by 277 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: the Air Force. There's more studies from NASA and independent 278 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: scientists also investigated this phenomenon for our purposes, especially if 279 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: you UH, if you're a person who believes or as 280 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: evidence of UH chem trails interfering. Of course, it's difficult 281 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: to believe the arguments of any US state sponsored entities, 282 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: So the independent scientists or where you would want to 283 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: go to try to find the most objective look at 284 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: the truth. The vast majority concluded that the concept of 285 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: purposefully spraying chemicals over such a large distance it's possible, 286 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: but the problem is that it would not effectively achieve 287 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: the results people feared Uncle Sam and other governments were chasing. 288 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: Side note, you can also find a handy dandy contrail guide, 289 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: because not all contrails are created the same, and the 290 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: results you're talking about are manipulation of weather systems right 291 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: or obstucation as Matt said, of radar detection or enhancement thereof, 292 00:18:53,200 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: or just providing artificial cloud UH artificial high atmosphere coverage 293 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: to interfere with foreign satellites. Foreign sate satellites are one 294 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: of the few things about that that other governments are 295 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: still trying to figure out how to um how to 296 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: mitigate the influence of or hinder the effectiveness of. So, 297 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: for instance, one thing to happen with Project Corona in 298 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: what the sixties seventies UH. Project Corona was one of 299 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: the first satellite observation operations in the US, and it 300 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: was so we I think we we've done some shows 301 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: about it. It It was so low tech at the time. 302 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: The satellites would take pictures, literal photographs, and then physically 303 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: dump the film, the negatives and cartridges, and someone would 304 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: just have to go catch him and develop it and say, oh, 305 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: that's what's happening, and now to say v D two, yeah, 306 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: nine seventy two. So it had some legs and went 307 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: on for a while. So despite the government's efforts to 308 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: say that we're not in any way obstucating satellite reads, 309 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: we're not poisoning people, were not, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, all 310 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: this has done very little to stem the swell of 311 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: Kim trail conspiracies. You can find YouTube videos, you can 312 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: find arguments that Kim trails are indeed ruining the world 313 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: as we know it. And that makes us look, perhaps 314 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: as you are looking up now, listener, as as we 315 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 1: talk about the sky, perhaps you're tilting your head up 316 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: to look. We don't know if it's day, we don't 317 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: know if it's night, but there is a there is 318 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: a fair chance that you're looking up and you're seeing 319 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: some clouds and you're starting to look at them differently 320 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: as you hear this. So while you were gazing up, 321 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: if not now the next time, the do, Let's talk 322 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: a little bit about spray in the sky. What what 323 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: are the facts about the sky? Well, first, there's one 324 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: inescapable facts here. The air is pretty filthy in a 325 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: lot of places, so was the water. Contaminated soil is everywhere. 326 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: The odds of being exposed to some sort of pesticide 327 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: or contaminant, they are a lot higher than you might think. 328 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: The US uses over a billion pounds of pesticides each year, 329 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: and a lot of that gets sprayed. So of course 330 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: that spraying isn't quite the same as this high powered jet. Uh, 331 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: the idea of a high powered jet flying above the 332 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: earth far enough to far enough to treat to create 333 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: a contrailer, chimp trail, what have you? Um? Second, the 334 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: differences in air quality around the country, the variations and 335 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: maybe your country as well. Um, they're very very very different, 336 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: wide range of air qualities, mountains, coasts, time of year, 337 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: depending on what kind of area you live in, whether 338 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: it's urban, how much manufacturing there is, all of these 339 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: factors are important, and they can hugely affect the quality 340 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: of the air that you breathe for sure. Yeah, so 341 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: we you know, that's why there are small alerts in 342 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: some cities more often than in others. That's that's a 343 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: pretty basic thing we can all agree upon. But there's 344 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: a third fact and this is the disturbing one. While 345 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: Kim trail believers may not be completely correct, and all 346 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: of the claims right there are because there are a 347 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: wealth of claims that are ranged from disturbing ly plausible 348 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: two maybe possible to what yeah, and and they stack 349 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: in varying ways sometimes, so you'll have you'll have an 350 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: extremely plausible claim right next to something that is the 351 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: huh um. So you have to really watch out. So 352 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: one caveat here is that several things presented as evidence 353 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: simply do not measure up, such as the infamous lithium 354 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: call with a NASA employee, which you can read about 355 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: right now on snopes dot com, where in uh wherein 356 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: some people claim that they had a confession that the 357 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: US that Uncle Sam was spreading lithium around the population, 358 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: just spraying it into the air and saying, I don't 359 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: know whatever, Yeah, and the thing to realize that these ideas, 360 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: especially if you're a person who thinks you are skeptic 361 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: or a person who thinks you have arrived at the 362 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: inescapable truth about chem trails and you feel like no 363 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: one is listening to you. There there's something that both 364 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: sides must admit that these ideas are not some kind 365 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: of malarky or nonsense coming out of nowhere, nor the 366 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: attempts for someone to be the discoverer of a hidden 367 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: truth which the Internet loves. Uh, nor they all a 368 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: bunch of people trolling in some crappy joe. Okay, But then, 369 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: as you know, there is a reason for all this. 370 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: More than a reason. There's actually precedent, and we'll get 371 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: to that when we come right back from a quick break. 372 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy. The US really did poison 373 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: human civilian populations with mass spraying with chemicals. We can't 374 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: emphasize this enough, folks, So let's try again. Something like 375 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: kim trails was real, proven And this is not some 376 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: archaic future plan written by Chris Carter, the inventor of 377 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: X files, or one of those military madmen proposed it 378 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: and came scary close kind of things. Uh. This actually 379 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: happened multiple times over the course of the nineteen fifties 380 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: and the sixties. The you S government dusted American cities, 381 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: maybe one in which you lived today, if you were 382 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: a US citizen with something called sinc cadmium sulfide. Yeah, 383 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: this is a part of an operation. It was Operation 384 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: l a C or Large Area Coverage, and it started 385 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty seven. However, that wasn't the first time 386 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: they did it. There were earlier experiments. Back in September 387 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: of nineteen fifty the US played some war games in California. 388 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: They had six simulated attacks there. They were conducted in 389 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. They wanted to evaluate the feasibility of 390 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: launching biological aerosol agents from off shore. So attacking the 391 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: US with biological agents, what would that look like? Would 392 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: it work exactly? And over the course of March and 393 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: April in nineteen fifty two, the US conducted multiple trials, 394 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: five trials off the coast of South Carolina and to 395 00:25:54,400 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: our unending discomfort, Georgia, in a project called Operation Do 396 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: Right Yes Great Point d e w uh. And the 397 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: idea here was the one to see if they could 398 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: prove that long range aerosol clouds could obtain hundreds of 399 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: miles of travel and cover a large area when they 400 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: were launched from ground level, and they wanted to see 401 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: how the weather would affect that, and this project was 402 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: rated successful. Got another example before Operation l a C 403 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: even really begins in nineteen fifty seven, an operation on 404 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: the North Sea, which is um the east coast of Britain, 405 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: showed that large area coverage with particles was possible under 406 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: most weather conditions. And the inaugural event for Operation l 407 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: a C is the same year, seven December two, the 408 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: US takes uh An Air an airplane called a flying 409 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: box car that's a C one nineteen that was loaned 410 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: from the Air Force to the military from South Dakota 411 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: to Minnesota, and they wanted to trace the spread of 412 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: particles as verified from stations on the ground. So, yeah, 413 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: testing to see what can we know if this is occurring? 414 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: What do we see from the ground level, right, and 415 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: there's a you know, there's a defensible position there too. 416 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: What if a for an agent or domestic domestic criminal 417 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: attempts to poison entire city? How far would they get? 418 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 1: The particles they used were fluorescence was easy to track them. 419 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: But what did they find, Well, they found some disturbing stuff. Man. 420 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: They drifted over a thousand miles away, all the way 421 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: north into Canada. The particles, the part of yeah, the 422 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: particles that were being sprayed from this C one nine team, 423 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: the zinc cadmium sulf exactly and in a normal flight 424 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: released about five thousand pounds of this stuff. You can 425 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: learn more about this in a book called The Eleventh Plague. 426 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: But this one, you know, this one and year old 427 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: flight wouldn't be such a big deal if they hadn't 428 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: also tested similar things in Texas, the San Francisco Bay 429 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: area and St. Louis. Can we talk a little bit 430 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: about St. Louis. According to professor Lisa Martino Taylor, St 431 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: Louis got an upgrade. Um, there's zinc cadmium self. I 432 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: had contained radioactive particles. Oh boy. Yes. Specifically, the radioactive 433 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: compound was something known as radium two to six, manufactured 434 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: by a company called in Burst of Creativity US Radium. 435 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: The Army called this substance FP twenty two sixty six. 436 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: So then in Corpus Christie, the chemical was dropped from 437 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: airplanes over large areas of the city Um and St. Louis. 438 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: The Army put chemical sprayers on buildings, schools, public housing 439 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: projects and mounted them in station wagons for mobile use. 440 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: And a little note here, the majority of the spring 441 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: that was occurring there in St. Louis, it was done 442 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: in low income minority areas, right, including the infamous prow 443 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: Ingo Complex. Uh this Professor Martino Taylor argues that over 444 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: seventy of the residents of the complex were children under 445 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: the age of twelve at the time. So that's that's 446 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: the thing, that's the disturbing. Here's where it gets crazy. Thing. 447 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who like to say, oh, 448 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: Kim Trail enthusiast or Kim Trail believers, because they don't 449 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: believe enthusiasts is the correct word. Are ignoring science, are 450 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: just becoming hysterical over something. Yet there is proven precedent 451 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: this stuff happened. The US government purposefully, purposefully experimented on 452 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: people without their consent, without their knowledge. We have an 453 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: episode on human Experimentation that examined some other examples of this. 454 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: We do mention the St. Louis event. Yeah, so where 455 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: does that leave us? Though? Guys? The idea that there 456 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: would be contrails actually just jet exhaust the lack of 457 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: better word, a jet bride product versus chem trails. Do 458 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: we have any like pros and cons or what? What 459 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: do you guys think? So, okay, I would say the 460 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: big problem is if you go online right now search 461 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: cam trails, you're gonna see a ton of videos that 462 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: I would say, I would I think objectively those are contrails, 463 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: and the person thinks they're chem trails. Um, it's usually 464 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: in a fairly occupied area metropolitan area, and it's just 465 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: you see where jets travel, and there's probably an airport 466 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: that goes, you know, connects up to another airport near there. 467 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: I can objectively say that it's a person who believes 468 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: it's the chem trail, but I think it's a contrail. 469 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: But when you bring in this history of testing, and 470 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: let's say even the need for the air force or 471 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: the military to test some of these things, uh to 472 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: understand their own readiness for a foreign attacker or even 473 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: a domestic terrorist or something like that, you okay, you 474 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: try and balance these two things. There's obviously, in my opinion, 475 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: not as many chem trails as some people would believe. 476 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: But I do not think it's a completely made up thing. Whatsoever, 477 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: I believe that there. I think there are some things 478 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: that are being tested, probably even now today. I suppoish 479 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: the government would make it easier for us and make 480 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: them like green or orange or something, you know, like 481 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: that Zeen and Batman. So you just know unequivocally, Okay, 482 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: that's a bad one. Stay away from that. Well, we 483 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: do know that classified experiments are conducted in near space, 484 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: in outer space, and in the upper reaches of the atmosphere, 485 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: and have been for some time. However, the motivation of 486 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: poisoning controlling the public is is a con to me 487 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: because there's not an effective way to control a dose, right. 488 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: And another con would be the old Nimby argument. Nimbia 489 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: is an acronym that means not in my backyard. So 490 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: let us suppose that there is some sort of elite 491 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: or some factions, some inner cabal that would say, hey, 492 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's a great idea, let's dose everyone with lithium. Well, 493 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: guess what, buddy, you're everyone. You you're not wealthy enough 494 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: to buy your own sky. It's one of the it's 495 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: one of the last things that will remain for the people, right, 496 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: even you know what. I hope that's correct. But then 497 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: there's there's a pro. And the big pro to your point, Matt, 498 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: is that this technology is already available. The argument is 499 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: over the motive and whether it would be effective, like 500 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: to what ends, you know what I mean. I think 501 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: it's definitely more in the testing kind of thing, the 502 00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: testing for military capability and prevention of attack. That's my 503 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: personal thought because it makes sense to me. But it's 504 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: just like cloud seating. It would be impossible to control 505 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: with the precision needed until it's not until it's not right. 506 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: There only level three sky room. They're trying to level up, 507 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: unlock them achievements. Son, No, I mean, I guess say 508 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: what Matt's saying entirely. I mean, you're even if something 509 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, as I said at the top of the show, 510 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: seems very pun intended Pie in the sky A no, brown, 511 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, is that you're never gonna actually further 512 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: your understanding of it unless you try it a whole 513 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: bunch and you know, try out different variables. Who knows, 514 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: maybe in twenty thirty years the government will be able 515 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: to control the weather. I don't know. You just got 516 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: to have a large enough black budget to pump funds 517 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: for teams to continually you know, hit their head against 518 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: the walls. We see, yeah, right now. I love that. 519 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: You say, maybe it'll be feasible to control the weather, 520 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: right or maybe even feasible to control a large population 521 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: or area. One thing we didn't mention was the concept 522 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: that this is being used to to that point earlier, 523 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: to geoengineer crops or something. Maybe they'll be able to 524 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 1: control it. Maybe someone will, But the problem is right now, 525 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: the best any publicly known UM, any publicly known institution, 526 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: whether private or state sponsor, can do is to influence 527 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: things very much like again observation we've used or comparison 528 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: we've used on the show before, very much like Mickey 529 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: Malice as the Wizard in Fantasia makes a broom, tries 530 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: to destroy the broom, and all of a sudden there 531 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: are a million frigging brooms. This is not you know, 532 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: this is not a situation wherein there is a precision. 533 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: So well, it goes by something that our buddy Jonathan 534 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: Strickland I have just talked about several times UM in 535 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: his opinion and you know, based on a lot of 536 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: sciencests out there in order to legitimately influence the weather 537 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,959 Speaker 1: or control it in any kind of way that could 538 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: reasonably be considered predictable or control, you would have to 539 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: pop so much energy into that system to the point 540 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: where it would just be a wash. I mean, it 541 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't be effication, yeah at all. So what do you think, 542 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. This is our quick and dirty intro 543 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: to chim trails. And even now, like a contrail, it 544 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: may be beginning to dissipate from your mind. Or perhaps 545 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: this episode will be a chem trail, or the lithium 546 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: might just be kicking in, or the lithium might just 547 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: be kicking in, And maybe this will stay with you, 548 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: maybe you will look at the sky differently, but when 549 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: you look back down, we want to hear from you. 550 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: Let us know your experiences. Do you feel that you 551 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: have seen a chem trail? Do you feel that chim 552 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: trails are bunk? Do you feel that you have experience 553 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: the influence of this thing? If you if you believe 554 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: in this phenomenon, and if you have any evidence, Let's 555 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: say you shot some video or some photos. Hey, why 556 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: not send it over before you fly a plane? Oh yeah, 557 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: kim trails maybe you worked on one of the operations 558 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: and you want to anonymously send us something. Huh, yeah, 559 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: we should really get a snapchat. Or maybe you just 560 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: want us to, you know, wish your loved one happy birthday. 561 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: We can do all of those things on shut up corners. 562 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: Today's first shout out goes to Maurice from Delaware. Hey, 563 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm Maurice. Shout out to Maurice, and I'm in Delaware. 564 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: It's not gonna work. I don't think you know everyone. 565 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: You know what, No people did get it. We did 566 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: see Wayne's World when it came out in the nineties. 567 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was good. I think that's part of 568 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: the reason Maurice writes him. What's he saying, Well, Maurice's 569 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: in addition to groaning and rolling his eyes at my 570 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: constant Delaware joke, I'm sure there's lots going on. And 571 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: it's a good joke. That's not even my joke. It's 572 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: a good reference. That's better. That's it is a good reference. 573 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: So Maurice says that there are two main reasons that 574 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: big businesses use Delaware as headquarters. Okay, this is also 575 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: about something not a joke, but that pertains Dela really, 576 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: we've talked about um number one, the ridiculous ease with 577 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: which you can incorporate in Delaware that makes perfect sense 578 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: and be the las Fair corporate taxation system. And we 579 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: have said that, but I need a little I still 580 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: want to look into that a little more, he said. 581 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: He was confirming, and he went to school and was 582 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: learning about all of that stuff, in particular how easy 583 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: it is to incorporate. That I understand and I knew that, 584 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: but this I I wouldn't. Whatever. I read articles about this, 585 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: they're always like, oh, it's just easy. You can just 586 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: do whatever in Delaware. It's fine. Just don't worry about it. 587 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: What happened did Delaware? Stays in Delaware. That's exactly so, 588 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: he says, we should look at the Wilmington, Delaware where 589 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: you can find the heart of banking conspiracies. Yeah, thanks 590 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: so much for writing in Maurice. Maybe this is an 591 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: episode in the future. What do you think I'm interested 592 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: in Wilmington's We're doing an episode on Delaware. You know 593 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: what we should Well, let's you know what we should 594 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: look into it, if only to discover new Delaware jokes. 595 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: I have to be at least one. I'm sure, there's several. 596 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: Send us your favorite Delaware just the one about what 597 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: a Delaware You know state jokes? Remember state jokes? I 598 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: remember state jokes. I can't remember the punch line is 599 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 1: no Delaware address or something. We're gonna find these jokes happen. 600 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna find a few. Everybody held us out fighting 601 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: Delaware jokes. What else do we have? Just the last thing? 602 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: I looked up Wilmington, Delaware, because what is he talking about? 603 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: He mentions that it's has an alternative name as murder Town, USA. 604 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: And apparently crime is so high in this tiny little 605 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 1: town in Delaware that, he says our listener Maurice says 606 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: that it's because the banks get whatever they want there 607 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: and whatever regulations and all this other stuff. I don't know. 608 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm certainly interested. Uh. And who do we 609 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: have next? Evan wrote to us and he wants us 610 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 1: to tackle the Johnny Ghosh case, which is a dark one. 611 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: You might have heard of the Franklin scandal, the child 612 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: prostitution ring. Well, Johnny Ghosh was the I guess, the 613 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: first person that was involved with this where it became 614 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: a big story because of the work of his mother 615 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: associated with it, right, Yes, they're hard evidence. Uh, you 616 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: know there's not hard evidence that he is a part 617 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: of this because he disappeared, right, It's all. It's somewhat 618 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: conjecture there. It's a rabbit hole though. Oh my goodness. 619 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,959 Speaker 1: Even just writing this out, I started kind of going 620 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: down because we've looked at it before. Um, just personally, 621 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,479 Speaker 1: I know you and I have looked at the Franklin case, 622 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: but he wants us to do it. It's pretty dark 623 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: for this show, but I don't know if you want 624 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: us to let us know. Yeah, uh, and Johnny Gosh 625 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: went missing. In our final shout out comes from a 626 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: Jay who says, Hi, guys, I'm Lata or Lanea from Nigeria. 627 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: I love listening to you guys, and I share it 628 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: with my friends too. You are the best hashtag shout out. 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