WEBVTT - The Downfall | Episode 4 0:00:15.356 --> 0:00:23.916 Pushkin previously on deep Cover. 0:00:25.476 --> 0:00:32.396 Was an all out onslaught of police cars, helicopters, cars 0:00:32.436 --> 0:00:37.156 in front of me, cars behind me, blocked in, weapons drawn, 0:00:38.116 --> 0:00:40.316 and I knew that it was over. 0:00:41.476 --> 0:00:43.956 This is Detective John Bradley Guess in three point eight, 0:00:44.036 --> 0:00:46.396 one of the Saint Louis County Police Department Bureau Crimes 0:00:46.436 --> 0:00:51.756 against Persons. The person being interviewed is Donald Keith Giamanco, 0:00:52.996 --> 0:00:55.996 and I know what was wrong. I'm very sorry for it, 0:00:56.116 --> 0:01:00.156 and I'm really sorry for anybody that I scared or 0:01:01.756 --> 0:01:03.036 thought I might too harmed too. 0:01:08.716 --> 0:01:12.196 In the day days after Keith Giamanco's arrest, news of 0:01:12.236 --> 0:01:15.756 the Booney Hat bandits spread. The story got picked up 0:01:15.796 --> 0:01:20.196 by the local media, and soon it became national news. 0:01:20.676 --> 0:01:24.676 Keith's daughters, Elise and Marissa, they had no idea how 0:01:24.676 --> 0:01:28.796 to handle all of this. They had no lawyer, no publicist. 0:01:29.436 --> 0:01:32.716 Their grandma Margie was still around, but she was only 0:01:32.756 --> 0:01:36.716 able to help so much. They were essentially just two 0:01:37.036 --> 0:01:41.676 seventeen year old kids on their own. Reporters began arriving 0:01:41.676 --> 0:01:46.076 at the Giamanco's small ranch house in Florescent, Missouri, and 0:01:46.516 --> 0:01:50.236 a small crowd of them gathered out front Marissa says 0:01:50.716 --> 0:01:53.076 this was the last thing that she needed. 0:01:53.756 --> 0:01:56.236 It was a mess. I was just like, why do 0:01:56.316 --> 0:01:59.276 they want to talk to me? Talking isn't going to 0:01:59.316 --> 0:02:02.556 help the situation that I'm in right now. This lasted 0:02:02.596 --> 0:02:04.916 for days, to the point where one of my friends 0:02:05.076 --> 0:02:07.116 came out and was like, you guys need to leave. 0:02:08.036 --> 0:02:10.836 In a phone call with their dad, they talked about this. 0:02:11.676 --> 0:02:14.876 Keith told them that he'd been approached by Good Morning America. 0:02:15.436 --> 0:02:19.396 He suggested that they do one high profile interview to 0:02:19.476 --> 0:02:24.156 appease the press and maybe engender some sympathy, put a 0:02:24.236 --> 0:02:27.196 human face on the whole thing. But he told the 0:02:27.236 --> 0:02:30.876 girls in the end it was up to them. Here's 0:02:30.916 --> 0:02:32.476 how Elice remembers all this. 0:02:33.716 --> 0:02:37.236 We agreed to do the interview, and they set up 0:02:38.196 --> 0:02:44.156 two cameras in the house and they told us to cry. 0:02:45.196 --> 0:02:49.516 I remember that. I remember that more vividly than anything 0:02:49.636 --> 0:02:54.036 is before the tape started rolling. Both times they were like, 0:02:54.316 --> 0:02:54.956 if you can. 0:02:54.876 --> 0:02:56.996 Cry or give. 0:02:58.596 --> 0:03:02.116 Any sort of, you know, sympathetic emotion, it would help, 0:03:02.196 --> 0:03:05.556 you know, the audience be more sympathetic with you, And 0:03:06.596 --> 0:03:08.196 tears really sell. 0:03:12.396 --> 0:03:16.156 I've thought about this moment a lot. I myself am 0:03:16.196 --> 0:03:19.916 a father with a seventeen year old son, and I've 0:03:19.916 --> 0:03:22.916 tried to imagine a situation where my wife and I 0:03:22.996 --> 0:03:26.276 are out of the picture, and my son is alone 0:03:26.316 --> 0:03:30.196 in our house in a rather desperate situation, with no 0:03:30.236 --> 0:03:33.876 one to advocate for him, and some TV producer is 0:03:33.916 --> 0:03:36.236 telling him that the best thing he can do for 0:03:36.316 --> 0:03:40.996 our family to engender sympathy is to cry for the cameras. 0:03:41.676 --> 0:03:44.676 And I got to tell you, the thought of this 0:03:45.316 --> 0:03:54.596 leaves me deeply unsettled. I've watched the Good Morning America interview. 0:03:55.356 --> 0:03:58.436 In it, you can see Marissa and Elise sitting side 0:03:58.436 --> 0:04:01.756 by side in their living room. Marissa is in this dark, 0:04:01.916 --> 0:04:05.396 long sleeved shirt. She looks uncomfortable, like she doesn't really 0:04:05.476 --> 0:04:08.836 want to be there. Elise is dressed up for the occasion, 0:04:09.316 --> 0:04:11.956 doing her best to look all grown up, in a 0:04:11.996 --> 0:04:16.636 gray turtleneck in a blue jumper style dress. The reporter 0:04:16.836 --> 0:04:20.156 asked the twins to talk about Keith. Here's part of 0:04:20.196 --> 0:04:21.756 what Elise said, what. 0:04:21.956 --> 0:04:25.116 The loves of his life. He took the role of 0:04:25.436 --> 0:04:27.796 mom and dad. You know, he was working, but he 0:04:27.876 --> 0:04:29.196 was also doing our laundry. 0:04:29.956 --> 0:04:33.676 She's then asked how she feels about what her father did. 0:04:34.276 --> 0:04:37.396 He's my Robin Hood. Yeah, you know, take from the rich, 0:04:37.556 --> 0:04:40.676 these banks a greedy and give to to better the 0:04:40.716 --> 0:04:43.876 betterment of their daughter, his daughter's lives. But at the 0:04:43.876 --> 0:04:45.076 same time, you know it's wrong. 0:04:45.836 --> 0:04:48.916 That's the TV reporter there telling the girls that they 0:04:49.036 --> 0:04:51.236 must know that what their father did was wrong. 0:04:51.996 --> 0:04:55.836 Elise responds, hmmm, he wanted to do this for anybody else, 0:04:55.836 --> 0:04:58.116 but hus, yeah, I can't believe I mean that much 0:04:58.196 --> 0:04:58.956 to anybody. 0:05:00.556 --> 0:05:04.036 I kind of winced when I heard Elisa's comments about 0:05:04.116 --> 0:05:09.196 Keith being like Robin Hood, But then I reminded myself 0:05:09.196 --> 0:05:13.716 these girls, they were just seventeen years old, under extreme 0:05:13.876 --> 0:05:19.276 pressure to answer for their dad's choices. In this same segment, 0:05:19.556 --> 0:05:23.476 the reporter also interviewed Keith in jail, with a glass 0:05:23.556 --> 0:05:25.196 partition between them. 0:05:25.756 --> 0:05:28.156 Life was pretty normal, suburban life. 0:05:28.276 --> 0:05:31.356 We went to baseball games, family vacations. 0:05:32.756 --> 0:05:36.076 Keith comes off as much more composed than in his confession, 0:05:36.876 --> 0:05:40.556 but his explanation is pretty much the same. He was 0:05:40.596 --> 0:05:43.836 in financial trouble and he did this for his girls. 0:05:44.476 --> 0:05:46.156 Why did you feel the need to go thus far 0:05:46.596 --> 0:05:53.236 to support them? Basically to afford them the lifestyle that 0:05:53.276 --> 0:05:56.036 they've always had to send them to the school that 0:05:56.076 --> 0:05:57.076 I was sending them to. 0:05:58.556 --> 0:06:01.116 So they could wear the clothes that they always wore. 0:06:02.556 --> 0:06:06.396 The public reaction to all of this was swift and brutal. 0:06:07.076 --> 0:06:11.556 Online viewers of Good Morning America made posts just fuming. 0:06:12.156 --> 0:06:15.476 One wrote, I hope the silver spoon he's been feeding 0:06:15.516 --> 0:06:20.956 these spoiled brats with chokes him and his daughters. Keith 0:06:21.156 --> 0:06:31.596 and his daughters were effectively vilified. Keith claimed that he 0:06:31.636 --> 0:06:35.356 had robbed these banks for his daughters for their benefit, 0:06:36.116 --> 0:06:41.396 but his actions had precisely the opposite effect, upending their lives, 0:06:42.436 --> 0:06:46.156 and in some ways his explanation only made it worse, 0:06:46.676 --> 0:06:49.836 because in the moment, it robbed them of what they 0:06:49.916 --> 0:06:57.516 needed most, the sympathy of others. Back when Elisa and 0:06:57.556 --> 0:07:01.996 Marissa were kids, they had what seemed like a storybook childhood. 0:07:03.036 --> 0:07:06.236 As the girls grew older and their parents started to fight, 0:07:06.676 --> 0:07:11.156 they realized maybe things weren't perfect, but at least at 0:07:11.156 --> 0:07:15.076 that point they still had parents, parents who paid the 0:07:15.116 --> 0:07:19.356 bills and set curfews and came to school events. But 0:07:19.516 --> 0:07:24.356 now that was history. The two sisters were suddenly on 0:07:24.436 --> 0:07:28.436 their own, and soon they'd face some very tough choices, 0:07:29.436 --> 0:07:32.716 choices that would drive them apart, leaving one of them 0:07:33.196 --> 0:07:41.516 in the darkened shell of their house all alone. I'm 0:07:41.596 --> 0:07:45.556 Jay Calpern and this is deep Cover The Family Man, 0:07:46.476 --> 0:08:09.876 Episode four, The Downfall. In the days and weeks after 0:08:09.916 --> 0:08:13.636 his arrest, Keith was held without bail at the local 0:08:13.676 --> 0:08:17.356 Saint Louis County jail. He began looking for a lawyer 0:08:17.396 --> 0:08:21.556 to represent him because his story had garnered so much attention, 0:08:22.076 --> 0:08:25.796 some lawyers actually reached out directly to him, eager to 0:08:25.796 --> 0:08:29.236 grab a chance to make a name for themselves, because 0:08:29.596 --> 0:08:33.676 whatever the outcome, Keith's case was bound to make headlines. 0:08:35.156 --> 0:08:39.716 For Marissa, the more rebellious sister. Keith's arrest was traumatic, 0:08:39.836 --> 0:08:44.916 of course, but in a strange way, it was also liberating. 0:08:46.036 --> 0:08:51.116 Before the arrest, Marissa had experimented with drugs, but suddenly 0:08:51.716 --> 0:08:54.076 there was no one left to reign in her impulses. 0:08:55.196 --> 0:08:57.596 As soon as Dad was out of the picture, like 0:08:57.676 --> 0:09:01.316 I kind of went buck wild because there was nobody 0:09:01.876 --> 0:09:06.076 that I had to report to. Basically, you know, Dad 0:09:06.156 --> 0:09:07.956 was the person that was like, Nah, you're not going 0:09:08.036 --> 0:09:10.556 to go out with those people. Well, no, you're not 0:09:10.596 --> 0:09:14.156 gonna do that. Like so without having somebody to put 0:09:14.196 --> 0:09:18.516 me in my place. I went pretty crazy, you know. 0:09:20.116 --> 0:09:23.476 Her sister Elise, remembers this as the time that their 0:09:23.516 --> 0:09:25.996 relationship really started to pull apart. 0:09:26.996 --> 0:09:29.876 At the time of my dad's arrest, Marissa and I 0:09:29.996 --> 0:09:32.756 were hanging out with different friend groups, and we had 0:09:32.876 --> 0:09:38.436 been arguing quite a bit. Which were twins, were siblings, 0:09:39.236 --> 0:09:42.516 that's normal, you know. I was starting to sense that 0:09:42.596 --> 0:09:45.596 she didn't really like me as a person, Like we 0:09:45.596 --> 0:09:47.276 were just incompatible as friends. 0:09:48.396 --> 0:09:51.796 And part of it was this Their friendship was under 0:09:51.876 --> 0:09:56.036 real strain. They were worrying about their dad, their future, 0:09:56.396 --> 0:09:59.476 and the sudden pile up of financial problems they'd inherited. 0:10:00.956 --> 0:10:04.796 Another tension was that the two sisters they split any 0:10:04.836 --> 0:10:08.276 of the money that they got from donations, and their 0:10:08.276 --> 0:10:11.716 priorities on how to spend this money were quite different. 0:10:12.836 --> 0:10:17.236 Marissa was starting to get into drinking, and she's smoking 0:10:17.236 --> 0:10:23.356 cigarettes and you know, experimenting, and I was off put 0:10:23.396 --> 0:10:28.396 by that. I was so nerdy, Like I literally told 0:10:28.436 --> 0:10:31.036 people I was waiting to smoke marijuana so that my 0:10:31.076 --> 0:10:35.836 frontal lobe could develop, like until I was like twenty 0:10:35.836 --> 0:10:36.836 five or whenever. 0:10:38.276 --> 0:10:41.076 All of this came to a head when Marissa made 0:10:41.076 --> 0:10:45.756 a purchase that her sister most definitely would not have endorsed. 0:10:46.756 --> 0:10:48.836 I had bought a pound of weed, and I was 0:10:48.876 --> 0:10:51.396 pissed off because it wasn't really good, Like it was 0:10:51.556 --> 0:10:53.916 way less quality than I thought it was going to be. 0:10:55.076 --> 0:10:57.516 And so I was like, you know what, screw it, 0:10:57.756 --> 0:10:59.596 Let's just have a party and smoke a pound in 0:10:59.676 --> 0:11:04.196 one night. So I invited everybody I knew and had 0:11:04.196 --> 0:11:06.316 a rolling contest and was like, who can roll the 0:11:06.356 --> 0:11:07.076 fattest blunt? 0:11:08.236 --> 0:11:12.236 Needless to say, a pound of weed, even substandard weed, 0:11:12.756 --> 0:11:15.956 will really do a number on your frontal lobe. And 0:11:16.516 --> 0:11:19.836 this was kind of the goal. The party got off 0:11:19.836 --> 0:11:23.076 to a rollicking start. It had the PlayStation set up 0:11:23.076 --> 0:11:25.716 in the living room, everything plugged in around the big 0:11:25.756 --> 0:11:30.836 screen TV record player going music blasting, someone singing into 0:11:30.876 --> 0:11:34.116 the microphone. A slip and slide in the kitchen is 0:11:34.796 --> 0:11:38.796 a slip and slide. Everyone's smoking weed. Like imagine if 0:11:38.876 --> 0:11:43.236 Costco sold oversized blunts and someone had bought a thirty 0:11:43.276 --> 0:11:43.876 six pack. 0:11:45.036 --> 0:11:47.716 You could see the smoke rolling out from underneath the door. 0:11:47.756 --> 0:11:50.316 If that's One of my friends came up and was like, hey, 0:11:50.836 --> 0:11:53.276 you can literally see smoke coming out of this house. 0:11:54.036 --> 0:11:56.356 Just to let you know, And I was one of 0:11:56.356 --> 0:11:59.276 those people that's like, bring the police. What else do 0:11:59.356 --> 0:12:02.716 I have to lose right now? Type of thing. But 0:12:03.516 --> 0:12:08.676 the police didn't show up until later. But because somebody 0:12:08.676 --> 0:12:14.076 crashed a car, this guy that you know, everybody's you know, irresponse. 0:12:14.276 --> 0:12:17.276 One person has to ruin it for everyone. 0:12:17.436 --> 0:12:19.556 You can still hear this seventeen year old in her 0:12:19.916 --> 0:12:23.996 blaming the whole bus stop on the one irresponsible guy 0:12:24.316 --> 0:12:26.156 who just took it a step too far. 0:12:26.876 --> 0:12:32.116 So this guy decided to steal my friend's car while 0:12:32.156 --> 0:12:34.596 she was sleeping and then wrap it around a pole 0:12:34.636 --> 0:12:38.756 down the street. So at five in the morning, the 0:12:38.756 --> 0:12:42.676 cops are on my door and they're like, hey, do 0:12:42.756 --> 0:12:44.676 you know anything about this? And I was like, oh 0:12:44.716 --> 0:12:46.316 my god, that's Tatum's car. 0:12:46.916 --> 0:12:50.516 Tatum is not happy about this, but you know who 0:12:50.516 --> 0:12:54.556 else is not thrilled. Take a guess, uh huh a lease. 0:12:55.476 --> 0:12:58.756 I believe that she stopped by at some point in 0:12:58.836 --> 0:13:06.356 that night and was fairly disappointed. She was not happy. 0:13:06.556 --> 0:13:09.076 She most certainly wasn't. Here's a lead. 0:13:10.236 --> 0:13:12.356 I remember going over there to get some of my 0:13:12.476 --> 0:13:18.396 stuff while the party was going on, and we got 0:13:18.436 --> 0:13:19.316 into a fight. 0:13:19.476 --> 0:13:20.476 Like a physical fight. 0:13:20.796 --> 0:13:26.276 Yes, like a physical fight, and because I just felt 0:13:26.316 --> 0:13:29.116 so disrespected. I felt like, you aren't keeping up of 0:13:29.116 --> 0:13:33.156 the house. You're you're feeding the walls, you're burning the walls, 0:13:33.756 --> 0:13:36.156 You're doing a slip and slide on the kitchen floor. Fine, 0:13:36.396 --> 0:13:39.356 cool party, but every day, the reason the house isn't 0:13:39.396 --> 0:13:41.396 being taken care of is because you are not doing it. 0:13:42.396 --> 0:13:45.876 Alice says that even though the night ended badly and 0:13:46.036 --> 0:13:50.516 she was upset, sure beyond that, she really worried about 0:13:50.556 --> 0:13:54.076 her sister and was doing her best to keep things 0:13:54.156 --> 0:13:54.916 under control. 0:13:55.876 --> 0:13:58.236 For me, my main priority with Marissa was to keep 0:13:58.236 --> 0:14:01.636 her safe, even though maybe she didn't see it that way, 0:14:01.636 --> 0:14:03.876 because I can be a little bossy, maybe a little 0:14:05.396 --> 0:14:08.436 maybe she sees us controlling, But for me, my main 0:14:08.476 --> 0:14:11.196 priority was to keep us housed and to keep us safe. 0:14:11.956 --> 0:14:15.396 Marissa says she gets why her sister was frustrated. 0:14:16.276 --> 0:14:18.076 I feel like she had my back, but I don't 0:14:18.116 --> 0:14:20.716 think she felt like I had hers, and I think 0:14:20.756 --> 0:14:23.476 that's a very valid feeling that she had. I feel 0:14:23.476 --> 0:14:27.676 like I was very lost where she had more of 0:14:27.676 --> 0:14:31.716 a head on her shoulders at that point, she honestly 0:14:31.756 --> 0:14:33.636 probably felt like a mother figure to me. 0:14:43.796 --> 0:14:47.436 But the truth was they already had a mother. She'd 0:14:47.476 --> 0:14:50.556 been absent from their lives for years. She'd moved out 0:14:50.596 --> 0:14:54.316 when the girls were twelve, and they'd rarely seen her since, 0:14:54.876 --> 0:14:58.156 except for strange moments like the night she showed up 0:14:58.356 --> 0:15:01.036 and asked them to pass the vacuum cleaner out the window. 0:15:01.996 --> 0:15:05.156 But then, in the middle of this tumultuous senior year 0:15:05.156 --> 0:15:08.156 of high school, as the girls were struggling to hold 0:15:08.236 --> 0:15:30.196 everything together, their mom returned. Becky Giamanco, that was Elisa 0:15:30.276 --> 0:15:34.356 Marie's mother. When the girls were little, Becky had been 0:15:34.396 --> 0:15:38.116 active in the PTA, a leader at their church. She 0:15:38.236 --> 0:15:42.796 kept an immaculate house, made gourmet meals, was always there 0:15:42.836 --> 0:15:46.956 for the girls. Then, around the time the girls were ten, 0:15:47.676 --> 0:15:51.276 all of this started to change. Becky and Keith began 0:15:51.356 --> 0:15:55.556 to argue seemed like all the time, and Becky started 0:15:55.596 --> 0:15:58.716 going out at night to the local bowling alley and 0:15:58.956 --> 0:16:02.276 to other places as well, though the girls didn't know 0:16:02.316 --> 0:16:07.596 exactly where. Eventually, the girls came to understand that their 0:16:07.636 --> 0:16:11.236 mother was struggling with drugged She moved out of the 0:16:11.236 --> 0:16:15.076 house when the girls were twelve. There were visits for 0:16:15.116 --> 0:16:18.116 a while, special times set up for them to see 0:16:18.156 --> 0:16:22.196 mom Becky got an apartment where they visited her, but 0:16:22.316 --> 0:16:25.916 then she lost that apartment. There was no place for 0:16:25.956 --> 0:16:29.916 the girls to have these visits, and their mother kind 0:16:29.916 --> 0:16:33.836 of slipped away. They didn't see much of her again 0:16:34.196 --> 0:16:38.356 until late two thousand and eight after their dad's arrest. 0:16:38.916 --> 0:16:42.476 So she calls like she needs to come and comfort 0:16:42.596 --> 0:16:46.116 us and be with us, and then we see her 0:16:46.156 --> 0:16:50.756 in person, and then she ends up eventually moving in 0:16:50.836 --> 0:16:51.716 for a little while. 0:16:52.516 --> 0:16:55.476 That's right, their mother moves back in with them. 0:16:56.356 --> 0:17:02.636 I was excited, also naive. I thought, here's a little 0:17:02.636 --> 0:17:06.476 family reunion. Mom can come back in. We have a provider, 0:17:06.676 --> 0:17:08.876 or at least some comfort, even if I still have 0:17:08.956 --> 0:17:12.516 to be like the provider, caretaker or whatever, at least 0:17:12.516 --> 0:17:13.356 we have Mom here. 0:17:14.116 --> 0:17:17.956 Elise was holding on to a fragile hope, but she 0:17:18.076 --> 0:17:20.316 was also clear eyed about her mother's condition. 0:17:21.676 --> 0:17:24.636 Mom was in the throes of her addiction. She was 0:17:24.796 --> 0:17:30.636 on heroin during this time. She was definitely unwell, and 0:17:30.676 --> 0:17:34.716 I knew that. But I also know that no one 0:17:34.796 --> 0:17:39.996 heals in isolation. And so I'm here like, maybe this 0:17:40.076 --> 0:17:43.316 is what she needs to get her shit together? Is 0:17:43.356 --> 0:17:47.356 her daughters need her during this time? Right now? This 0:17:47.436 --> 0:17:50.196 is her moment to step up and shine, and. 0:17:50.156 --> 0:17:56.156 It started off promisingly enough. They had Thanksgiving together. Their 0:17:56.196 --> 0:17:59.956 mom invited a friend, a guy dealing with homelessness who 0:17:59.996 --> 0:18:03.636 she knew from the streets. He took a shower, cleaned up, 0:18:04.236 --> 0:18:08.116 and then the familiar choreography of the day made things 0:18:08.156 --> 0:18:12.836 feel almost normal. They set the table, turned on the oven, 0:18:13.476 --> 0:18:16.956 the scent of roasting turkey filled the air. Their dog 0:18:17.076 --> 0:18:22.156 Lucky poked about, and for a moment, the small magic 0:18:22.196 --> 0:18:27.316 of the holiday smoothed over all the cracks. But that 0:18:27.316 --> 0:18:32.596 didn't last. According to Elise, their mom was soon using 0:18:32.676 --> 0:18:37.836 heroin in their bathroom regularly. Meanwhile, Elise is playing the 0:18:37.916 --> 0:18:41.956 role of the provider, working at Banana Republic, paying the bills. 0:18:42.756 --> 0:18:46.276 And then one morning Alise swings by her bank to 0:18:46.316 --> 0:18:47.796 make a withdrawal. 0:18:48.196 --> 0:18:53.276 And lo and behold, my bank account is overdrawn and 0:18:53.316 --> 0:18:56.076 I did not get out any money. 0:18:56.916 --> 0:18:59.716 She goes into the bank, meets with the bank manager 0:19:00.156 --> 0:19:03.916 and he confirms that someone made withdrawals from her account 0:19:04.076 --> 0:19:06.796 and offers to pull up the videos so they can 0:19:06.836 --> 0:19:07.756 see who it was. 0:19:09.116 --> 0:19:11.876 And he showed me the surveillance tape and he's like, 0:19:11.916 --> 0:19:15.876 do you recognize this? Person, and I'm like, oh, that's 0:19:15.876 --> 0:19:16.276 my mother. 0:19:19.156 --> 0:19:21.756 It doesn't take long for a Lease to figure out 0:19:22.076 --> 0:19:22.876 what had happened. 0:19:23.756 --> 0:19:27.876 She took my bank card out of my purse, knew 0:19:27.876 --> 0:19:31.396 my pin number, and took all of my money out 0:19:31.396 --> 0:19:35.396 of my bank account, overdrew me, and then went back 0:19:35.436 --> 0:19:39.836 to my house and acted like nothing had occurred. 0:19:40.956 --> 0:19:44.316 At this point, Alise knew what she had to do. 0:19:45.476 --> 0:19:49.036 I went back to my house and I told my 0:19:49.196 --> 0:19:52.476 mother to come outside, and I told her that she 0:19:52.676 --> 0:19:55.356 had to leave, and that she was never welcomed back 0:19:55.396 --> 0:19:59.316 there ever again until she figures her stuff out. 0:20:03.596 --> 0:20:06.916 Alise says that right there on the front lawn, her 0:20:06.956 --> 0:20:13.676 mother begged for another chance, but Elise was resolute. As 0:20:13.716 --> 0:20:18.076 she watched her mom go, the wild, outlandish tragedy of 0:20:18.116 --> 0:20:22.996 the situation started to dawn on Alise. Her parents were 0:20:22.996 --> 0:20:27.636 both thieves. Her father had robbed a dozen banks, her 0:20:27.676 --> 0:20:31.596 mother had stolen from her when she was already stretched thin, 0:20:32.556 --> 0:20:36.796 and now in the wake of these staffs, Elise had 0:20:36.836 --> 0:20:56.836 lost both of them. When the twins were growing up, 0:20:57.156 --> 0:20:59.836 the person they counted on and went to when their 0:20:59.836 --> 0:21:04.556 parents were fighting was Keith's mother, Grandma Margie. She lived 0:21:04.556 --> 0:21:09.116 close by Elise told me she was like their guardian angel. 0:21:09.996 --> 0:21:13.556 But during this same tumultuous fall, as all of this 0:21:13.796 --> 0:21:17.356 crazy shit was going on, Grandma Margie died. 0:21:18.796 --> 0:21:23.276 She was really the only ally in our corner, in 0:21:23.356 --> 0:21:28.796 our family, and to have that also go away in 0:21:28.916 --> 0:21:36.956 such a finite period of time was so almost unbearable. 0:21:38.836 --> 0:21:44.156 And my therapist died. What do Yeah, our family therapist 0:21:44.276 --> 0:21:47.516 had a heart attack after my dad got arrested. So yes, 0:21:47.676 --> 0:21:51.676 I definitely felt like I had bad luck. I felt 0:21:51.916 --> 0:21:57.036 like everything that I touched was cursed, and that's an 0:21:57.036 --> 0:22:01.196 icky feeling. I was trying to do everything white and 0:22:01.316 --> 0:22:02.636 nothing was going right. 0:22:04.436 --> 0:22:06.036 Yeah, not to make light of it, but if I 0:22:06.036 --> 0:22:08.036 saw you get on my plane, I think I would exit. 0:22:08.476 --> 0:22:11.596 Yeah, yes, no, that's so I would tell you too. 0:22:13.916 --> 0:22:18.236 Eventually, Marissa and Elise went their separate ways, not for 0:22:18.356 --> 0:22:21.276 lack of love, it just couldn't keep living under the 0:22:21.316 --> 0:22:25.596 same roof. Alice started spending most nights with her boyfriend, 0:22:26.316 --> 0:22:29.596 and she began firming up plans to attend a small 0:22:29.636 --> 0:22:35.276 liberal arts college in Wisconsin. Marissa stayed behind alone in 0:22:35.276 --> 0:22:39.116 the family's little shoe box house, with no one keeping 0:22:39.156 --> 0:22:42.596 track of what needed to get done, the bills went unpaid, 0:22:43.116 --> 0:22:46.356 and soon the house lost water and then. 0:22:46.396 --> 0:22:51.956 Power, so it all got shut off. You know, I, 0:22:51.996 --> 0:22:54.676 me and my sister, our relationship ended up being strained 0:22:54.716 --> 0:22:58.716 because of my drug use and partying, and she ended 0:22:58.796 --> 0:23:01.276 up going to live with her boyfriend, and I ended 0:23:01.316 --> 0:23:03.996 up being in this house with no electric and no water. 0:23:04.596 --> 0:23:06.356 How long were you in this house with no electric 0:23:06.396 --> 0:23:06.956 and no water? 0:23:09.116 --> 0:23:11.916 It felt like a long time. It was probably like 0:23:11.916 --> 0:23:13.076 three or four months, But. 0:23:14.996 --> 0:23:20.716 Three or four months with no water and electricity, yeah, 0:23:20.996 --> 0:23:24.356 she says. A neighbor let her use their shower, charge 0:23:24.356 --> 0:23:27.596 her phone, and fill buckets with water so she could 0:23:27.636 --> 0:23:31.236 go back to her home and manually flush her own toilet. 0:23:32.156 --> 0:23:34.276 I tried to have multiple buckets so I didn't have 0:23:34.316 --> 0:23:36.876 to walk over there during different times of the day, 0:23:36.956 --> 0:23:38.756 so I didn't have to like disturb everybody. 0:23:40.476 --> 0:23:44.876 She laughs now, But at the time it got pretty grim, 0:23:45.356 --> 0:23:49.636 especially because at this point Marissa was using drugs pretty heavily, 0:23:50.116 --> 0:23:55.876 including heroin. Living in this shell of a house became untenable. 0:23:56.556 --> 0:24:01.276 Marissa needed a place to live, and eventually she reached 0:24:01.316 --> 0:24:04.036 out to one of the few people who might truly 0:24:04.116 --> 0:24:16.156 understand her predicament, Her mother. During this time, Keith Giamanco 0:24:16.676 --> 0:24:20.316 was still in the county jail awaiting trial. He stayed 0:24:20.356 --> 0:24:24.236 in touch with his daughters, usually by phone, and he 0:24:24.276 --> 0:24:27.036 tried to be there for them it's best he could. 0:24:27.676 --> 0:24:30.556 One day, he was on the phone with Marissa and 0:24:30.596 --> 0:24:33.316 she just leveled with him about what was going on 0:24:33.436 --> 0:24:35.116 in her life. 0:24:35.356 --> 0:24:39.116 She basically spilled the whole thing to me is She 0:24:39.276 --> 0:24:41.476 told me, I'm addicted to heroin. 0:24:43.076 --> 0:24:43.716 She was. 0:24:45.236 --> 0:24:47.916 In trouble, addicted. 0:24:48.076 --> 0:24:49.236 I can't kick. 0:24:49.156 --> 0:24:54.436 This, And that particular moment, of course, I was just 0:24:54.636 --> 0:24:56.516 absolutely helpless. 0:24:58.436 --> 0:25:01.116 I have to imagine as a dad, that's a devastating moment. 0:25:00.916 --> 0:25:06.356 Totally devastating. It was devastating to know that you can't 0:25:06.396 --> 0:25:11.956 be there to help. And I heard all of the well, 0:25:12.116 --> 0:25:14.156 she would have did it. Whether you were in here 0:25:14.276 --> 0:25:16.996 or out of here, that doesn't matter when you're a dad, 0:25:18.356 --> 0:25:22.196 because you think that being there there would at least 0:25:22.236 --> 0:25:25.836 be a shot at you helping, no matter what the 0:25:25.916 --> 0:25:29.756 issue is that they're having. Maybe I couldn't have stopped 0:25:29.756 --> 0:25:34.396 her from doing drugs, but if she was falling down 0:25:34.436 --> 0:25:37.316 a hole, I could have reached out and grabbed her 0:25:37.316 --> 0:25:50.756 hand and saved her from falling to the bottom. 0:25:51.036 --> 0:25:54.276 Keith told me that he was also worried about Elie 0:25:54.836 --> 0:25:57.116 and how she was managing without him. 0:25:58.436 --> 0:26:03.876 It was devastating to see the other child working her 0:26:04.036 --> 0:26:10.556 tail off to do the best thing she possibly can 0:26:12.276 --> 0:26:20.156 for herself and proving herself that she can survive anything. 0:26:22.396 --> 0:26:25.356 Keith says that this would come up sometimes when he 0:26:25.436 --> 0:26:26.716 was on the phone with Elise. 0:26:27.556 --> 0:26:31.516 There were times when Elise flat out told me, what 0:26:31.716 --> 0:26:35.756 about me? What about what I'm going through? What about 0:26:35.796 --> 0:26:39.436 all the things that I'm working so hard at and 0:26:39.476 --> 0:26:42.556 succeeding at, and nobody seems to notice. 0:26:43.836 --> 0:26:47.916 For Keith, all of this reinforced his sense of urgency 0:26:48.636 --> 0:26:51.796 that he needed to map out a plan, a legal strategy, 0:26:52.236 --> 0:26:54.956 a way to serve his time and walk away with 0:26:55.036 --> 0:26:58.916 the lightest sentence the system would allow so he could 0:26:58.956 --> 0:27:04.156 get released and be there for his daughters. As prosecutors 0:27:04.156 --> 0:27:08.156 began to prepare their case against Keith, it became clear 0:27:08.196 --> 0:27:10.756 that there was a out and of evidence against him, 0:27:11.436 --> 0:27:15.636 and Keith he would soon face a pivotal choice about 0:27:15.676 --> 0:27:20.356 his freedom and his future, and in the end, he 0:27:20.396 --> 0:27:44.476 would make one last gamble, coming up on deep cover. 0:27:46.116 --> 0:27:50.956 At that point, I'm thinking, okay, I'd tell the truth 0:27:51.756 --> 0:27:53.436 and this may not turn out too bad. 0:27:54.236 --> 0:27:59.156 I remember waiting outside the courtroom, full of anticipation, in 0:27:59.276 --> 0:28:03.756 tension and anxiety that comes with being in a sort 0:28:03.756 --> 0:28:04.516 of purgatory. 0:28:05.196 --> 0:28:08.556 Can't put that many people in that much fear and 0:28:08.676 --> 0:28:22.196 not expect to pay a heavy price for him. 0:28:22.636 --> 0:28:25.836