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Speaker 1: you doing on RUSS Aulisburg along with my buddy today,

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Speaker 1: Lance Meadow, and it is welcoming you once again to

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff here on Giants dot Com. The number,

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Speaker 1: as always the call is to oh one four five

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Speaker 1: one three and uh well, there's no it's no secret.

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Speaker 1: The next game is Monday Night and the motto the

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Speaker 1: phrase whatever you want to say, Lance is win by

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Speaker 1: any means necessary, by any means necessary, just win the

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Speaker 1: damn game. Listen, when you're one in five, I think

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Speaker 1: you've got to be creative. You gotta find various ways

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Speaker 1: to put together that complete game. That's exactly what this

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Speaker 1: team is searching for RUSS. There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: And you get in Atlanta team. As we look ahead

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Speaker 1: to the Monday Night contest, which is one of the

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Speaker 1: of an offensive clinic in which they beat the tam

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Speaker 1: DeShawn Jackson. So you know the Giants that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to find ways to manufacture more points. It goes

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Speaker 1: without saying, but you know, the defense has now given

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Speaker 1: single game, and everybody wants to look for a scapegoat,

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Speaker 1: It's not just necessarily one facet. I I couldn't agree

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Speaker 1: it out to everybody. The guy who's being made to

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Speaker 1: if you want to criticize Eli, that's fine. Eli is

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Speaker 1: So let's stop with the scapegoat and and hypocritic nonsense. Okay, Eli, everybody,

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Speaker 1: everybody needs to play better. Everybody. We we we get that.

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Speaker 1: And if there is no improvement, obviously somewhere down the

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Speaker 1: glad you used that term, because that's just what's annoyed me, Like,

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Speaker 1: no problem with anybody criticizing Eli. The giants. Nobody's gonna

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Speaker 1: John Marrow, was asked that the owners meetings today or

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Speaker 1: you know, yes, whatever it was. He was asked, you

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Speaker 1: know how he feels about one or five? Is disappointed

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Speaker 1: season starts, Russ, well, what are your expectations for the team,

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Speaker 1: And the guy says I'm think we're gonna be in

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Speaker 1: basically said, make more noise, more playing, about more playing,

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Speaker 1: with that logic. They're entitled to their opinion like everybody else's,

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Speaker 1: but if you look at this team as a whole,

427
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Speaker 1: there are fundamental issues across the board that go way

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Speaker 1: beyond the quarterback play. You know what they say about opinions,

429
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Speaker 1: everybody's got one. Well, I know where you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: with that. Unfortunately, want to keep the conversation. I'm saying, Oh,

431
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Speaker 1: I know exactly where you're going. Russ. I was gonna

432
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Speaker 1: say it too, but I had to sell ddit button.

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Speaker 1: But you're You're you're addit button is a little more

434
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Speaker 1: than anyway. Let's stay here in New Jersey. Go to Hugo.

435
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Speaker 1: How are you you go? You're on with Russ and Lance? Hey,

436
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Speaker 1: good afternoon, guys. How are you doing all right? Hey?

437
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to Eli, I take a

438
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Speaker 1: very balance I think a very balanced few. I mean,

439
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: Eli gives us the best opportunity to win this year,

440
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Speaker 1: and he hated last year. There's no better option. I

441
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: don't want to see Alex Tanney. I don't want to

442
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Speaker 1: see Kyla Letta. I mean, Kyle Letta would be the option.

443
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Speaker 1: If you just want to tank the season, go in

444
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Speaker 1: there and lose every other game of the year. Right, So,

445
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: if you're in that situation you want to tank the season,

446
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: put Kyle Aletta in, however the elephant and you go,

447
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: can I just let me, let me just say something,

448
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Speaker 1: then then you can you can't continue. I don't know

449
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen. I expect Eli to be the

450
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Speaker 1: guy behind calling signals. In fairness, I don't like especially

451
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Speaker 1: with this organization. This organization would never do anything with

452
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Speaker 1: the mindset to tank you season. If they want to

453
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Speaker 1: look at Loletta for whatever reason, like you and I

454
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Speaker 1: could agree that we don't want to see that. But

455
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Speaker 1: if they want to look at low let they want

456
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Speaker 1: to look at him to ascertain what they have for

457
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Speaker 1: the future. So their mindset would not be the tank

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Speaker 1: of season, let me just get there. Or if there's

459
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Speaker 1: a lopsided game at some point this year and they

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Speaker 1: want to give him the last two series or two,

461
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Speaker 1: certainly you can see that perhaps happening. Yeah, I mean

462
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: that's just wind addressing, right, you know, that's not football.

463
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: That's just clean up work. However, when it comes to Eli,

464
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Speaker 1: I think the the elephant in the room is the

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Speaker 1: fact that he is taking up twenty two or twenty

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Speaker 1: three million dollars of salary cap. And the one thing

467
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Speaker 1: I would disagree with the coach on is I'm not

468
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Speaker 1: sure he could play for twenty teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: I see him more as a bottom third quarterback, kind

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Speaker 1: of bordering on journeyman right now. And you can win

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Speaker 1: with that type of quarterback, but a lot of things

472
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Speaker 1: have to be right around him. He's got to have

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Speaker 1: a good offensive line, he's got to have good weapons,

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Speaker 1: he's got to have you know, complementary football. So that's

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Speaker 1: really the problem. I mean, I always think of the

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Speaker 1: market test. If you put Eli at his current salary

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Speaker 1: up for a trade, would there be any takers? And

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Speaker 1: I would venture to say that would be very little,

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Speaker 1: if any takers. Well, but that also depends upon which

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Speaker 1: team has the need. Anybody who's gonna go for Eli,

481
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Speaker 1: is gonna go for Eli, or if that would be

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Speaker 1: the case based on your logic, the logger would be

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Speaker 1: to a team that is like a win now we

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Speaker 1: got So that depends how much he's worth it him

485
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Speaker 1: if if if listen any GM, h go any GM,

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Speaker 1: whether it's you're drafting a g whether you're drafting a

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Speaker 1: quarterback or you're trading for a quarterback, what is the prerequisite?

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Speaker 1: The number one question that they want answered is can

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Speaker 1: this guy take us to win a Super Bowl? That

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Speaker 1: is the number one on every GM's mind. Can this

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Speaker 1: guy take us to win a Super Bowl? So, if

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Speaker 1: Eli was going to a team, it would be somebody

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Speaker 1: who might be willing to in that situation. You're not

494
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Speaker 1: gonna go through a halfs average team, no, because they're

495
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Speaker 1: gonna develop a young quarterback, especially if they're not in

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Speaker 1: a position where they can contend for a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think any team that would acquire Eli Manning at

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Speaker 1: this point you go, is going to be a team

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Speaker 1: to Russ his point that you feel your team is

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Speaker 1: very good and you just want to upgrade your quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: You know. So for example, if you look at the

502
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Speaker 1: top of the standings right now, you'd have to find

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Speaker 1: the team. I mean, Jacksonville is a team I know

504
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: is always thrown out there because of the Tom Coughlin ties.

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Speaker 1: If the Jaguars woke up one day and said, you

506
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Speaker 1: know what, we don't like what we're seeing out of

507
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Speaker 1: Blake Bortles anymore. We still think this defense and the

508
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Speaker 1: rest of this unit is great. Would they entertain that?

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a stretch. But the point is, yes,

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Speaker 1: there's not gonna be a lot of teams I would

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Speaker 1: agree with you that are going to want to acquire

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning, especially when he's at the talent of his career.

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Speaker 1: He's up there in age. Why would I give valuable

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Speaker 1: prospects away you go for a quarterback that I'm renting

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Speaker 1: for maybe the remainder of this season or perhaps for

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Speaker 1: one year. So absolutely, the market's gonna be minute, it's

517
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Speaker 1: gonna be almost not an existent. So so the way

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Speaker 1: the same way other teams think about Eli should be

519
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Speaker 1: the same the way we think about Well. But see

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Speaker 1: I did that that I disagree with. I. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that just because other teams are not knocking down

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Speaker 1: the door for Eli Manning doesn't mean that the Giants

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Speaker 1: have to view it that way. The Giants have to

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Speaker 1: view it is this season based on who they have

525
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: on the roster, who gives them the best opportunity to win.

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Speaker 1: I said, that's what they have to look at I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking a little bit, I'm thinking beyond this well, but well,

528
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Speaker 1: as I said at the beginning of the show, you go,

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Speaker 1: I said, that's a that's a separate conversation for the

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Speaker 1: Giants to have at the end of this season. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to reevaluate a lot. And there's nothing wrong

532
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Speaker 1: with them looking at their options on the roster, looking

533
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Speaker 1: who's gonna be a free agent, looking at the draft,

534
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: and then saying, hey, maybe we want to go in

535
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Speaker 1: a different direction. I'm speaking right now with the short term.

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Speaker 1: The short term. Right now, Eli Manning is the best

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Speaker 1: option at quarterback. It's a completely different conversation after this seasons.

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Speaker 1: You go appreciate anybuddy, thank you. You know. The one

539
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: thing about the Giants what you know you use the

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Speaker 1: phrase that's you know, discussion for after the season about

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Speaker 1: changes with anybody. Understand this, folks, the Giants this season,

542
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: they're always looking at making changes if it makes the

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00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: team better. Listen, after they put their fifty three on

544
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Speaker 1: the roster at the beginning of the season, when they

545
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Speaker 1: opened it up, when they broke training camp, there were

546
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Speaker 1: six guys right away that came in. Uh, there were

547
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: six changes made right away where they're not and and

548
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: they're bringing in people all the time. So the Giants

549
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: are always looking. They're always bringing in people to look

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Speaker 1: at on the normal day off Tuesday, which was not

551
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: this week because of the Monday night games, which is

552
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: typical for every team. You know, you're always taking to improve.

553
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: So it's not just because you they might not be

554
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: making the changes that you want or you you think about,

555
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: or your home playing general manager about it doesn't mean

556
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: they're not thinking about changes. They're always thinking about making

557
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: a team better. Though at the same time, you just

558
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: have to be realistic. They're making changes for guys on

559
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: the back end of the roster at this time of

560
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: the year, though, you're not finding Aaron Rodgers on the

561
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Speaker 1: street and say, Aaron, come on in and we're gonna

562
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: put you in under center. So you know, you have

563
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: to put things in perspective. If there's gonna be changes,

564
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,959
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like what we saw today, Benny Fowler

565
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: comes in to replace an injured player who perhaps can

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Speaker 1: help fill in where the other guy left off. Those

567
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: type of things. Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, did you see

568
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: that another great comeback? Yeah? My gracious, oh my goodness, Anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's go to our buddy in Columbia, Maryland. Lenn Len

570
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Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Lance. How you doing, my friend, good, good, good,

571
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Thanks for taking my call. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, we was doing a little count. This is

573
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Speaker 1: not not a scientific count. I was doing it in

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Speaker 1: my mind. Um, since that the initial fifty three settled down,

575
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: I know Russia talked about the changes that took place

576
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: right away, but once we went into that Jacksonville game

577
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Speaker 1: with a fifty three man roster, we we've now added

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Speaker 1: ten players. I think we're up to sixty three who

579
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Speaker 1: have actually been part of the fifty three. And heck,

580
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: we're only six weeks into the season. And get hurt too,

581
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Speaker 1: So that's why I mean, injuries happen, and obviously you're

582
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Speaker 1: gonna have to replace those guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of injuries, and Lanson wanted to go back to

584
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Speaker 1: something that, uh, you mentioned last week. I don't know

585
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Speaker 1: what they we talked to either Thursday or Fatty last week,

586
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: but you were talking about you were talking about the

587
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: tight ends and you know, the loss of Ellison and

588
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 1: Ingram and um get at least for that game, hopefully,

589
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: we'll be okay, coming up on some and let me

590
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: just cut off. Pat spoke to the media today and

591
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: said he's encouraged that both of them should be ready

592
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Speaker 1: to go from Monday because they both got on the

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Speaker 1: practice field. Yeah, just to interject them. Yeah, that's that's

594
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: that's good. That's good. And I was just going to

595
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: mention Lance to me. Um, I thought the Ellison loss

596
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: was tough for and the Ingram loss. Um, I mean,

597
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: Ingram is a good player. I'm not not in Engram,

598
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: and I don't want to make a choice between the two.

599
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: But I thought Eli was hurt more by the Ellison

600
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Speaker 1: loss than he was by he was by the England.

601
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: He's the best blocking tight end on the roster. So

602
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: when you remove him from the equation and you remove

603
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, which they had been out without him for

604
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: a few weeks. But yeah, you remove the best blocking

605
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Speaker 1: tight end, which is an extra insurance policy for the

606
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: old line. I don't think that's a stretch at all

607
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: then that kind of situation, I understand what you're saying,

608
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: but it's almost six of one, half a dozen of

609
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Speaker 1: the other. Yeah, yeah, depends what with that you're trying

610
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: to take a couple of other quick points. Um, yeah,

611
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Speaker 1: you know you're going into Monday, and a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I'd like to see. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see more of the full back on

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Speaker 1: the field. I'd like to see a full back field.

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00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you know, thirty five plays, but

616
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: ten or twelve plays. If we're gonna commit to the run,

617
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's get this fullback on the field. You know,

618
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: he he has accumulated some NFL numbers, He's caught some passes,

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Speaker 1: He's gained some yardage on the ground. I think he

620
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: played three plays the other night. I was kind of

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Speaker 1: looking for him in the Eagles game when I you know,

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00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: I want to went, um, I went on game pass

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00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: and watch the replay. Um, you know, he made a

624
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: couple of pretty good blocks. I'd like to see. You know,

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00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna commit to the run, Let's let's get a

626
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Speaker 1: fullback on the field and put him out there for

627
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: ten or twelve plays and run the ball, and you know,

628
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Speaker 1: see whether he can knock anybody over and Barkley get

629
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Speaker 1: a few actually arts, maybe even break one. You know,

630
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Speaker 1: you know what, Lan you come from the same place though,

631
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Speaker 1: I do, and the game has changed, and I don't

632
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: necessarily like it, you know, like we call it a

633
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: copycat league and a lot of stuff. Let listen, I

634
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: grew up with, you know, like for example, Horning and

635
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: Tala Sonka kick and Mercury Morris and we got right,

636
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Speaker 1: you know, a Blier and Frank o'harris. We go on

637
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Speaker 1: and on. And if somebody had the wherewithal and the

638
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: guts to do that again and would and if it

639
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: could be successful again, you might see more of it again.

640
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: But you know, I just don't see it happening. That's all. Well,

641
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: here's here's the other thing. A couple of teams who

642
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: will put a fullback out there for more. And by

643
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: the way, since you mentioned Taylor's name, God Bless, of course,

644
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: as you know, Jim Taylor passed away within the last

645
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: couple of days. And it's it's hard to imagine, Russ

646
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: what you know what that was? That was? That was

647
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: a time uh ninety two Taylor of fullback was the

648
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: most valuable player in the league. How about that? So

649
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: the game really has changed, But Taylor was a terrific player.

650
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: God Bless passed away three days ago, but one of

651
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: the things that I wanted to throw out to your

652
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: line before you continue, you have to keep in mind

653
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with you about the involvement of the

654
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: fullback and Elijah Penny who you're referring to. He wouldn't

655
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: be on this roster if he could not catch the football,

656
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: because before the season even started, Pat Schremer said the

657
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: only re in we keep a fullback on these rosters

658
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: because he could catch the football. So that goes without

659
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: saying that he has to catch the football. But I

660
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: think you have to understand the last game, the reason

661
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: why he didn't play a lot of snaps. They got

662
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: down very early in that and game flow, game situation.

663
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: You know, if we're gonna commit to the run, I

664
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: would just like to see the block fullback now. And

665
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you again back to to his NFL statistics.

666
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: Will probably spending more time in this guy than we should,

667
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: but I just want to make this mention. He has

668
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: caught the ball in the NFL. Remember the fullback whore

669
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: we started the season with win a year in four

670
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: games without accumulating any Yes, yeah, well, Elijah Penny was

671
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: on the Cardinals. He's been around the league rest than

672
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: he gained the artist on the ground, and he caught

673
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: some passes and gained the artists that way too. So

674
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: I would and he can and I think he can

675
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: block a little bit. And that's the one thing I'd

676
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: like to see. Let me ask you you, you guys

677
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: a question. Now hold on, hold on one second, because

678
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question. And believe me,

679
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about you for the last couple of days.

680
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: Really you were on with us. I'll I'll as for

681
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: as long as I do this, I will always remember

682
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: your phone call last year when you got emotional talking

683
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: about your quarterbacks. Eli. Man, tell me, tell me you're

684
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: gut feeling what you're going through right now when you

685
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: hear all this stuff being said about Eli, Well, it's

686
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: hard to listen to us. It's it's it's hard to

687
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: listen to because of what Lance said. I would. Um,

688
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: you know, I think I think Lance was right on.

689
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: He's the best quarterback on this team. I don't understand

690
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: the boying. I mean, I don't understand the negativity. He's

691
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: the best player. You got cheer him on. I think

692
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: I told you the story once before. Um, guys, you know,

693
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: I go back to Connolly. Nobody got boot worse than

694
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: Connolly in the mid to late fifties. I mean, you know,

695
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: it's a terrible situation. But and I used to sit

696
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: there in the o Yankee Stadium with my father and

697
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: I would turn to him and I say, he's our guy.

698
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: Why are they buying him? I mean, what what do

699
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: people think they're doing? This is our best player. He's

700
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: got a giant uniform on. Cheer for the guy. It's

701
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: almost like they're trying to, you know, approve a point.

702
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: It's kind of the whole thing about being critical of

703
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: of Eli's taken on the life of his own money.

704
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: As Land said, he gives us the best chance to win.

705
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: You know that phrase taken it's again a scapegoat, taken

706
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: on a life of its own, your own unbelievable. I mean,

707
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: the whole thing is just it's incredible. Uh, he's the

708
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: best quarterback we've got. We've got to play him, and

709
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: let's come and kind of, you know, cheer him on

710
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. Get this guy, get this guy going.

711
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: It's almost like a lot of the fans is just

712
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: trying to you know, My point is he's he's he's

713
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: not a good quarterback now, but he's the one we got.

714
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: All right, I asked you the question. I'll give us

715
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: your last one because we got to go to all

716
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: the calls. Yeah, okay, okay, guys, I'll get you later

717
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: and no real quick, give us your last question. Okay,

718
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: all right, all right, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that.

719
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to say something about the defense. You know,

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00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: I think the first caller express some disappointment and the

721
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: fact that we weren't seeing the exotic blitzes and you

722
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: know defense that we I don't know if we will promise,

723
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: but we came to think that that's what we were

724
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: going to see out of this new defense. I count

725
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: a guess, not scientific, but ten guys, it's a three

726
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: four defense. I think three four. I think traditional. I

727
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: know there's a hybrid angle to this, to this defense

728
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: that we've got now, but I think the traditional three four. Okay,

729
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: ten guys put their hands in the dirt on Sunday.

730
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a three four. How can you it's

731
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: a three four defense and ten guys put their hands

732
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: in the dirt. I mean, just you know, get your

733
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: three best players out there. Put Thomason and end Hill

734
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: and end snacks in the middle. Get your four best linebackers,

735
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: including Vernon. He made a difference. You know, he's a

736
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: good player for it's a good play he definitely made.

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00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: And he made his presence felt rather early as well. Yeah,

738
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: he sure did. He sure did. He may have, you know,

739
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: and and while it's faded a little bit, he may

740
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: have gotten a little tired. I was going to say that,

741
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 1: I think there wasn't a lot of gas in the tank.

742
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: Is the game progress, which is understandable, was his first

743
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: game back play those Get your four best linebackers out

744
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: there that you think. And I mean this kid, you know,

745
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: the kid Carter. He's having trouble with his hand in

746
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: the ground. He can't get that. He doesn't have the

747
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: moves quite yet, you know, but he's got speed. Stand

748
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: him up. You know, I wouldn't I wouldn't mind saying

749
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: he's here's a weird idea. But I wouldn't mind saying

750
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: two guys with their hand in the dirt and five

751
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: guys standing up on the line and rushing from that position.

752
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: I think this it's scotten. It just seems to me

753
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: it's scotten, a little complicated, it's gotten a little complicated.

754
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to see on on Monday night.

755
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: And I know it's hard, you know, the officials to

756
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: start in this this this play cock. It seems like

757
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: it's the fastest I've ever seen the official start to

758
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: play cock clock after a play. Um, you know, I'd

759
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: like I'd like to see us, when we get to

760
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, run the play, snap the ball

761
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: and run the play. I'm not saying we gotta be

762
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: up tempo. I'm not saying we got to go into

763
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: you know, a mad two minute offense. But I'd like

764
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: to see us come up to the line of scrimmage

765
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: and snap the ball and run the play. That's been

766
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: called alright, always appreciated. Speaking of defense, I think, uh,

767
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: ore RG. McIntosh is, I believe working as well well.

768
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: McIntosh is. Uh, you're talking about the one who was

769
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: put on the physically unable to perform list before they

770
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: started season, be draft pick out of Miami. RJ. McIntosh. Yeah,

771
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's somebody certainly that they had high

772
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: hosts are. Unfortunately health issues has kept him side. But

773
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: I think it was told to I thought he was

774
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: working out. I didn't see the latest full practice report.

775
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: You may be right, I didn't see whether or not

776
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: he was included on there, but I mean, I think

777
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: at this point, you know, somebody coming back certainly could

778
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: be an added bonus, but I don't know if it's

779
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: necessarily gonna be a savior. And I think to Lens point,

780
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily get caught up though with this three

781
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: four alignment. See, the problem is rus when fans see

782
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: at three four, they're expecting every single play, you got

783
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: three down and you got four back. There's so many

784
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: hybrid defense, especially coordinators who run three four is that

785
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: with the extra defensive back in more often than not

786
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: because of teams rolling out with three wide receivers. It

787
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: really doesn't matter whether it's a three four or four

788
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: three base. It's about getting your best personnel out on

789
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: the field to match up with what the offense has

790
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: to showcase. And that's why I don't think you're necessarily

791
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: always seeing the three four because sometimes James Betcher feels

792
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: he needs the extra defensive back out there with the

793
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: additional wide receiver or target for the quarter back, that

794
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: it's just not a good matchup to have an additional

795
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: line back and Patremers said that at the beginning of

796
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: the season, because when everybody you know, three four and

797
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: everybody's as it depends what we're facing. So again, folks

798
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: to a one five, one three is the number. Gott

799
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: to remind you again, Big Blue Kickoff Live presented to

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802
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: eighteen season. Let's go down to Orlando, check in with Jose. Jose,

803
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: how you doing today, Buddy? You're on with Russ and Lance? Hey, Russell, Lance,

804
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: how you guys doing awesome? Hey, I just have a

805
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: couple of topics and and you know I'm They're not

806
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: emotional topics. I'm a big fan of Eli Manning for

807
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: many years, even when people started going him and and

808
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: doing well. It's it's not easy to do what he does,

809
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: and we have to understand that the situation that he's

810
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: in now with that set the direction that we're going

811
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: in in football right now. US. I know you mentioned

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00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: about having the fullbacks in the days of having the

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00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: big running backs, and I know San Francisco, I don't

814
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: know if you guys watched that game they're fullback, they

815
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: used them really well. Well, because Kyle used check is

816
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: I mean I followed Kyle used check when he was

817
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: in college. He was a member of the IVY League,

818
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: So I know exactly who you talked about, Jose. He

819
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: is cut from a different cloth than most fullbacks. So yeah,

820
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not getting on you, but you picked

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00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: the most versatile fullback in the National Football League compared

822
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: to any other fullback. So the way he was used

823
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: in college, the way he's used with the Niners is

824
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: he's almost like an extension of the receiving corps because

825
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: he has the ability to go out there and get

826
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: out wide and run people over and catch passes sometimes

827
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: five or ten yards down the field. Most fullbacks, you're

828
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: not necessarily gonna put them in that position. Well, let's

829
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about what he can't the capability of.

830
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: But you also have to understand what Kyle Shanahan came.

831
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: Look at his bloodline. Is that you know the office

832
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: that he ran, that his father ran with Denver, the

833
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: same offensive blocking schemes that they were running a couple

834
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: of times during that game. Um. But not to get

835
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: away from what I wanted to talk about was. I

836
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: know people are talking about Eli Manning and and how

837
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: he needs to go and things like that, and you

838
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: guys are right, he's the best player that we have

839
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: as far as quarterback. But moving forward, the way the

840
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: game is changing, Like I'm sure Russell, you'll probably be

841
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: able to agree with some of this when Eric Curry yell,

842
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: when that guy came out and changed the game as

843
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: far as a forward passed, how we're moving the game,

844
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: how we're moving the offense has changed. We're changing as

845
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: far as quarterback play right now. And I kind of

846
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: disagree with what coach said that Eli can play for

847
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: twenty teams. I probably can think of two that could

848
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: be there with elite offensive lines like the well, Dallas

849
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys not elite right now. They had a couple of

850
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: guys missing, but New Orleans is playing really well now.

851
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: To make a long story short, the direction that the

852
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: NFL is going in, Yes we need a mobile quarterback.

853
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: I get that, but that also helps as many weapons

854
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: that you can have on the field via it were

855
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: a fullback like the fullback from San Francisco, or a

856
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback that can help your offense with down in

857
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: distance and what I mean by that is that there's

858
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: a coverage that they're playing where the receivers are covered,

859
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: and that quarterback sees a pocket, he can run four

860
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: or five yards down the field, slide if he needs

861
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: to not get hit, and you're improving your down in

862
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: the distance from first intend to second and five and

863
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: whenever your numbers help with down the distance, and you

864
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: can help with a mobile quarterback like that, that can help. Now,

865
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: I know John and Jeff yesterday said something about you

866
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: can't change the whole offensive line at once. I understand

867
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: Soldiers not a Pro Bowl left tackle, but he was

868
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: a left tackle in need that we needed at that time.

869
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: We paid him big money. Now we can't change the

870
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: whole offensive line collectively at the same time. That's impossible.

871
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: We know we have to build that. But next year,

872
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: moving forward, I am almost a hundred percent sure, I

873
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: would probably say eight five percent sure that we're gonna

874
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: draft either a quarterback or look at trying to have

875
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: another quarterback that is mobile, not because that Eli is

876
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: a horrible quarterback. He has declined some more of the

877
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: fact that the NFL is transitioning. Well, I mean, I

878
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: don't disagree with any guys saying I don't think the

879
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: last two quarterbacks the Giants drafted were mobile in terms

880
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: of Davis Webb and Kyle Aletta. So I mean that

881
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: trend has been well documented. Yeah, you know what, Jose,

882
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you a question, how old are you?

883
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: I'm asking for a reason. Okay, So because you brought

884
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: up something interesting, like you said, Air Corel, you know,

885
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: changed the way things are played, I'm gonna I agree

886
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: with you to a point. But but I'm gonna go

887
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: back before Coriel. I'm gonna go back to the old

888
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: AFL and then when they joined the lead, because the

889
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: old AFL played the way a Coreel played. You can

890
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: talk about Joe Namath, you can talk about the mad bomber,

891
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: Darryl Lamonica, you can talk about John hey know, you

892
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: know with Lance Allworth. You know what I'm saying. So

893
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: that though that was fun to watch, boy, that was

894
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: home run ball. What we weren't talking about little completion

895
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: rates of like eight yards. We're talking about, you know,

896
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: average completion rates of fifteen and twenty yards. It was wild, right,

897
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: But you also have to understand us that although we

898
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: did have a couple of players like that now in

899
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: the NFL, it's different. The the athletes now are so

900
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: much more faster and athletic that that the we're not

901
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: taking away from any of our guys. That that kind

902
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: of like cemented the game from where it is. But

903
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: moving forward, as a Giant fan and as an ELI fan,

904
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm completely fine with I know Elis put a lot

905
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: of I do see that he's on the decline. And

906
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: when people say that he's a hundred per cent that

907
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: all he needs is an offensive line behind him. You

908
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: need them to lead offensive line. We're not gonna cut it.

909
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 1: Even if you bring in like a right tackle, that's awesome,

910
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: You're still gonna need a quarterback that somewhat mobile, just

911
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: because of what the defenses allow you. The defenses playoffs.

912
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: If you see the way the defenses played the New

913
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: York Giants says they don't really respect you. I man, yeah, yeah,

914
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: But you know what, Jose, I'm not gonna dispute I

915
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: get what you say. I agree with it to a point.

916
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: But as I said, I don't know if you heard

917
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: this when I said this to to Lance when we

918
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: were talking, I forget who which caller we would talking with.

919
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: Like I said, last week's game, Uh, last Thursday Night's game,

920
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm sitting with Jeff Eagles, and I said, Jeff watched

921
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: this and from the time the ball of snap, I

922
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: went one Mississippi to miss and I couldn't get out

923
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: the Mississippi because, and believe me, I don't care if

924
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: you were bullet Bob Hayes in the backfield, you weren't

925
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: escaping that kind of rush we're talking about. Like Lance said,

926
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: thirteen hits, four four sacks. I mean, I don't I

927
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: don't care who you are. You know, Lands brought out

928
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: the point, uh, Mariotta um eleven sacks, eleven sacks and

929
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: also to talk about that, Russ Mariota also doesn't have

930
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: the weapons in your giants have as the skill position. Yeah,

931
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: but but wait a minute, but but but I've heard

932
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: I've heard people bring that up. I disagree with you.

933
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: So who cares if he doesn't have the weapons. The

934
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: point is you can get a wide receiver to run

935
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: a slant and try to get rid of the football quickly.

936
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: There's ways to schematically work around offensive lines that struggle.

937
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: The point is he's a mobile quarterback. So to your point,

938
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: if he's able to run for five yards and get

939
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: in better downs and distances. Certainly that was not happening

940
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday. That's my point. So

941
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: so you want to look, okay, let me ask you this, guys,

942
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: and and then I know you got other courts. I

943
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: gotta come in now because people scream about either get

944
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: rid of Eli Manning or or just start the whole

945
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: offensive line now that we have well, well what not.

946
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: No one nobody's saying dumped the whole offensive line. Hold

947
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: on a second, we say the offensive line needs, but

948
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying, I don't know if

949
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: you listened to yesterday's show, Rust, John and Jeff were

950
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: talking about how some calls are saying, well, the whole

951
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: offensive line we're supposed to this whole year is built

952
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: about improving the offensive line and being better and all that.

953
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: But you've gotta understand that these guys are jelling the

954
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: whole day. They changed all five positions, you know, they

955
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: made changes to the offensive What I'm saying is in

956
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: the needs of the future, what the Giants need, and

957
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: a lot of Giants fans that actually think before they

958
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: say something. A lot of people think before they possibly

959
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: say right, We'll probably say, yes, Eli Manning is on

960
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: the decline, do we need a quarterback to the future. Absolutely,

961
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: Now how are we going to figure out if maybe

962
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: Kyle Letter is that future, We're gonna have to play

963
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: him in some games because the preseason there's no way

964
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: to evaluate. Yes, you can evaluate in the preseason, but

965
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: true evaluation comes in game times. Any And like I said,

966
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: if the opportunity provides itself later on in the season

967
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: for a lopsided game or two and they want to

968
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: get Kyle lo Letting in, that's fine. But when you're

969
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: one in five, you're not gonna Benji Lion Manning and

970
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: say the season is over. Now let's put Kyle lo

971
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: Letty in so we can determine whether or not needs

972
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: the future quarterback. Thanks for the call, you know that

973
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: that that's that's the realistic part of this. Also, there

974
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: are teams that drafted quarterbacks out of college and they

975
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: started them right away when they didn't necessarily have any

976
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: sample size in the NFL. So there's a variety of

977
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: ways to skin a cat. Nobody says that you've got

978
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: to follow one blueprint to find your next quarterback. And

979
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: the reason I bring that up Russ is, and we're

980
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna get some more callers here. You know, everybody talks

981
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: about how the Giants need to find the quarterback through

982
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: the draft. Maybe they make a trade for a quarterback.

983
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 1: Maybe they go out and they sign a free agent

984
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: who's young, for example, like a Teddy Bridgewater who's gonna

985
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 1: be a free agent after this year. There's multiple ways

986
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: to go and find your quarterback. There's no rule book

987
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: in the National Football League that says I've got a

988
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback number one. Overall, I've got to find

989
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback in the third round. I got to find

990
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback in the second round. There's a variety of

991
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: ways that teams have gone about acquiring their quarterbacks, so

992
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that the Giants have to find one

993
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: blueprint that worked for another team. We'll see how the

994
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: off season develops. I think right now, we're trying to

995
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: have the conversation right now, and I don't know how

996
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: many times I got to continue to repeat it. Alex

997
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Tanney and Kyle Aletta are not going to start in

998
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: place of Eli Manning on Monday Night just because people

999
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: are arguing they need a mobile quarterback in the latest

1000
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: name that's being bandied about. I've read a couple of

1001
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: places some people are throwing it out Jacobe Prissette. Uh,

1002
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: Giants should trade for Jacoby Present should trade for him. Yeah, well,

1003
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what Brissette's contract is now that I

1004
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: think about it. Brissette should be coming towards the end

1005
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: of his rookie deal. So it goes back to my point, Russ,

1006
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: why would you trade for a guy who would very

1007
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: well hit the free agent market and you could sign

1008
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: them out right. I never understand the rationale because the

1009
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: philosophy behind me here to me what their rationale is.

1010
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: People who are thinking this, let's you know, they're thinking,

1011
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: let's do it now. I mean, folks, he's gonna have

1012
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: to learn the new offense. What do you think he's

1013
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: gonna do that in in two days? And then they're

1014
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: gonna throw him out there. But the other thing is,

1015
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: as we're saying, ELI is the I right now. That's it,

1016
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: you know. And what you just said when you said

1017
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: at the top of the show to me sticks, it's

1018
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: a discussion for after the season. And they, when I

1019
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: say they, I'm talking about Pat Shermer, I'm talking about

1020
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 1: the brass I'm talking about Dave Gettleman. It's a situation

1021
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: that they have to ascertain. Look, everybody was applaud I mean,

1022
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: he was he the assistant of the year last year,

1023
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: was the correct he was the coordinator of the coordinator

1024
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: of the He's uh called offensive guru quarterback guru. Uh.

1025
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: People feel that unanimously across the board. Okay, so now

1026
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: he comes and you have a situation where everything is new,

1027
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: and it's six games into a season, that where they're

1028
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: coming off three and thirteen. Maybe everybody was a little

1029
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: gaga and they expected just because it sounded all nice

1030
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: and sexy, that boy, we got these new guys. We

1031
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: spent the boat load of money. Which listen, I was

1032
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: enthused about it as well. Uh. If I'm not gonna

1033
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,439
Speaker 1: sit here and tell you I expected one in five.

1034
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: But you know what, if I was sitting at three

1035
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: and three, I would have been thrilled. If people were

1036
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: thinking that you were gonna go from three and thirteen

1037
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: to eleven and five, that was unrealistic thinking you just

1038
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: don't improve like that. It's cock eyed logic, you know.

1039
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: So it's it becomes a work in progress. But believe me,

1040
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: if Pat Shermer and Dave Gettleman look at the situation

1041
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: and say, this calls for this kind of change. That's

1042
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: such and such a position. It'll be made. But they're

1043
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: not doing it just because the media or some of

1044
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: the fans think that. And the truth of the matter is,

1045
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: and this is not to be insulting at fans, but

1046
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: this is the way it is. Once a GM or

1047
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 1: a coach starts making decisions based upon or they're worried

1048
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: about what the media or the fans are gonna say,

1049
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: they're dead you opinion. You never dictate your thoughts. You've

1050
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: gotta have enough skin and enough guts inside to say

1051
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: I can't think about it, can't worry about it. If

1052
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna boom me, so be it. That's it. That's

1053
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: life in the fish bowl. Such as such as the deal.

1054
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: We've got time for one more call. Let's go to Columbus, Ohio.

1055
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: Adam has been hanging on patiently. How you doing, Adam?

1056
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: You're on with Russ and Lance. I'm doing well, guys.

1057
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Speaker 1: How are you doing any good? Don't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of time, buddy, What do you got for us? I'll

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Speaker 1: try to make it quick. I was gonna talk a

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Speaker 1: little about Eli Manning and kind of what I hope

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00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: to see moving forward, But I think we've exhausted that.

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Speaker 1: So maybe I'll just share a couple of ideas about

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Speaker 1: Monday night and keep it pushing. Whatever you want, Pal,

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Speaker 1: whatever you want, Adam. Well, you know, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: actually making the trip down to Atlanta this weekend, so

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited to go see the game in

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Speaker 1: the new the new stadium down there. But I think that, uh,

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Speaker 1: I think will be a lot more effective in the

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Speaker 1: red zone and even the green zone with Ellison and

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Speaker 1: Ingram back, I'm hoping that really makes a difference. I

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Speaker 1: think that's something that we were visibly lacking against Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: and even Ingram since he's been out, I think it's

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Speaker 1: been pretty pretty noticeable some of the things that we're

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Speaker 1: not able to do as well. But what I was

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Speaker 1: thinking of, you know, Lance, you made a good point,

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Speaker 1: and you and I talked a little bit about on

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Speaker 1: Twitter about mobility and whatnot in the quarterback, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you made a good point that we could still scheme

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Speaker 1: around deficiencies in the line, or maybe the line isn't

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Speaker 1: playing as well as we hoped. And you've got a quicker,

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00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: slance quicker plays four to six yards of the cliff.

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Speaker 1: I think it looks to me like the biggest problem

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00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: is we're able to do that well and then suddenly

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Speaker 1: some type of negative play materializes and just kills the

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Speaker 1: whole drive and a penalty or a false start and

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00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: then or ten yards. Yeah, exactly. I think if we

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Speaker 1: could be a little more disciplined, teams are gonna have

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Speaker 1: more choice with the start to respect the fact that

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Speaker 1: we can we can manufacture an entire drive start to

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Speaker 1: finish going forward to six yards at a time, A

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Speaker 1: lot like uh, maybe it might have been a wanting

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Speaker 1: four to six men, a lot like the beginning of

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00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: the Saints game. You know, hey, if we have to

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00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: peace there, if we have to, Nickel and Diamon will

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00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: do it, and we'll do it well. Eventually, you're gonna

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00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: have to rule safeties up, you're gonna have to play

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00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: a little tighter coverage, You're gonna have to get out

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00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: of a too deep look. But I think until we

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Speaker 1: can get consistent in somewhat mistake free or at least

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Speaker 1: minimize the mine, I don't think you really instead of

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Speaker 1: our teams to do that. And I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a successful blueprint. You know, say, hey, beat

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00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: us a little bit of the time until you make

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Speaker 1: the mistake. Well, the procedural penalties, to your point, Adam,

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Speaker 1: are certainly affecting the continuity the office. And then on

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Speaker 1: top of that, and I think you touched on this,

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Speaker 1: are you heading that way? You know, people point to

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00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: well safe Kwan Barkley is doing a great job, and

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00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: you're right, he's got a few explosive plays here or there.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's not as if the Giants are

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Speaker 1: running for five yards, ten yards, fifteen yards, they're getting

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Speaker 1: negative two zero one. So if the Giants run the

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Speaker 1: ball a little bit more consistently, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you're forcing the secondary players to come down towards the box.

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00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: They can't roll the safety over the top on Odell

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00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: and it opens up the field. So there's a lot

1117
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: of things that you can do to help yourself. But

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Speaker 1: the running game is a big part of it. And

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Speaker 1: the running game has been sort of Doctor Jeko Mr. Hyde.

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Speaker 1: As great as s Quan's been, they've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of negative runs this season. I don't think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are talking about that, and that's pushing them backwards.

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Speaker 1: All right, pal, thank you for the call. Getting ready

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Speaker 1: to wrap things up here. Dylan, who um we spoke

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Speaker 1: to earlier, I guess from Connecticut. He just put to

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Speaker 1: us on Twitter that he heard that. I was just

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Speaker 1: going to mention that, Actually you took the words right

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Speaker 1: out of my mouth or he alluded to it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I just saw. The Falcons have officially put their running

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Speaker 1: back Davante Freeman on I R now. He missed a

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Speaker 1: lot of time already this season, so Tevin Coleman he's

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Speaker 1: now the starter. And they also have a full back

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Speaker 1: slash running back, Edo Smith, who ran for a touchdown

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Speaker 1: I think in each of the last three games. I'm

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Speaker 1: not yet done with my study on the Falcons, so

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Speaker 1: he's gonna probably play a bigger role moving forward. And

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Speaker 1: they call him Judge Edo because of the whole O. J.

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Speaker 1: Simpson trial. Not to get completely off topic, so you

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Speaker 1: would figure that you'll see a lot of him mixed

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Speaker 1: in with Tevin Coleman this week. Alright, folks, Well that's

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Speaker 1: a wrap on today again. Gotta remind you all The

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Speaker 1: Again your number two call tomorrow to A one five,

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Speaker 1: one three, and not just tomorrow, but tomorrow and every

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Speaker 1: day during the week. Here we always paid the bills.

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Speaker 1: The number is always working. But right now for Lance Meadow.

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