1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: The one thing I always take away from being able 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: to be around you guys, being able to be around players, 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, being around that team was just that I 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: needed every bit of that in that time period because 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: I was in such a broken place spiritually. That the 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: city of New Orleans, my teammates, everything, it just it 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: brought me right back. It was like, Nah, we're not 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: gonna let you go too far, you know, down his 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: dark path. We're gonna keep you right here with us. 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: And then we end up winning that Super Bowl. Man, 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: and I was just like the biggest release of just 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: like the Monkeys off my back, Breathe fresh air, and 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: you know that's what it was about. Yo, yo, yo, everybody, 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning in. This is Roman 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: Harper and you are listening to the NFL Players Second 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: Acts Podcast. I got a special guest here, a former 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: teammate of mine. Really looking forward to really diving into 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: different aspects of this young man's life. He's been a 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: superstar for as long as I've known him, and he 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: continues to shock and show out in this world. 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Thank you our 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: guests today. Some people don't know have to really describe 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: him or what he is or what he has become, 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: but just know, to many, many people, he is the 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: best college football player they have ever seen with their 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: own eyes. Today's guests fight on for victory. Number five 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: aka two five FEVA, whatever you want to call him. 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush, the second overall pick in two thousand and 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: six from the University of Southern California, lucky enough to 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: have fallen to the number two pick, My teammate, former teammate, 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: and always my dude, Reggie, How you doing, my boy, 41 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: I'm good man, I'm good Rome. How are you doing man' here? 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing good man. So most of the time we 43 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: tell everybody resumes and blah blah blah, but you know, 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: everybody kind of knows you. So let me just tell 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: a good story about my boy, Reggie. So this was 46 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: my initial introduction to Reggie Bush. So for all these 47 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: listeners out here. So we both get drafted, all right, 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: Reggie's number two. I'm second round pick for the Saints. 49 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: They fly Reggie in the second round pick. I guess 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: I must have missed a flight er. I didn't get 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: whatever it was. It's cool. I'm not even mad about that, 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: all right, not even mad. So now we get out there. 53 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: We're in rookie camp. You know, everybody goes to rookie camp. 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: So me and Reggie are roommates, all right, the only 55 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: time we were there, for those short period of time, 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: we were roommates. And this is my introduction to Reggie Bush. 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: Reggie has his laptop out and he shows me what 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: he had just come from Vegas at the hard Rock Hotel. 59 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: Rehab was the poor party. I had never seen anything 60 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: like this in my life, all right. I'm from Alabama. 61 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: I've only been out of the state a few times. 62 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: My man, this is like Memorial Weekend. You don't know 63 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: anything about this, somebody, No, I've never seen anything like this. 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: It was absolutely life changing. I literally went the next 65 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: year and told my mom, you know what, Mom, I'll 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: never be home for Memorial Day everything. I want to 67 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: be at the hard Rock Hotel with my boy Reggie 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: and everybody else, everybody, Reggie Bush right there. Yeah. Hey, 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: you know what it's crazy, is we um? You know, 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: going to Vegas now so different than you know, back 71 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: during that time period before COVID all these things that 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: you know transpired since. But Rehab was the first big 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: pool party I ever went to, and the first time 74 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: I went, I had that same reaction. I was like, 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, what is this, like, we damn people here? 76 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: And you know it was it was the It was 77 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: like one of those first big pool parties. Um. You know, 78 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: back in that time period when pool parties were still big. 79 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Remember going there, you know every year with a bunch 80 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: of teammates, you know, hanging out, having a good time. 81 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: You went before it got ratchet too, like ye, it 82 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: was a new phenomenon. Yeah, it was a new phenomenon. 83 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: Still it got ratched, real it got ratched at some point. 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: And then you know, I think things end up changing, 85 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: like Access popped up and Court Beach and all these 86 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: other places but um, you know it was it was 87 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: good times. Man. That was a that was the beginning 88 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: of uh, you know, our our relationship. Us meeting Um, 89 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, I never forget man meeting you for the 90 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: first time. I was like, who, how old is this dude? 91 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: In no way me and him are coming in the 92 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: same draft class. This dude got to be year ten 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: right now. I'd be trying to tell everybody, like, Bro, 94 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: I literally had gray hair like majority of my life. 95 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: So I can't. I literally can I can't. I can't 96 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: diet because everybody like, dude, yeah, if I, if I, 97 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: if I showed up reds with black hair, what would 98 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: you say, you should actually do that one time just 99 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: for the college football show, Bro, I swear to guy, 100 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: it would be as hit. It would go viral if 101 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: you showed up all straight black hair, no grays nowhere, 102 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: Just go ahead and die that thing, man, color it 103 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: up one time for the team. So Peanut, Peanut was 104 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: my teammate, and he literally started to go fund me. Yeah, 105 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: and it got up to like seven grand bro, like 106 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: trying to get me to dye my hair for like, 107 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, Noah, I won't do it. Now, 108 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: you know what Um, I honestly, it gives you so 109 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: much character, you know what I'm saying, Like because you know, 110 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: there's different things about us individually that you know that 111 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: separate us from other people. And um, you know, I 112 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: just feel like you know, the way we look, you 113 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: know sometimes when we talk, the way we act, it 114 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: all just gives us character. Yeah. And just knowing you 115 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: for as long as I've known you, man, coming in 116 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: the same draft, You've always been the same guy. I 117 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: always been a great person, always been an amazing teammate, 118 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: hard worker. Um, you know, nothing is changing, you know 119 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm still seeing that same guy. You 120 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. We just were on the other 121 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: side now, you know what I mean. We lived, We 122 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: lived our our time in the in the NFL. We 123 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: made it through, you know, with all our all our 124 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: limbs still attached to our body. And um, but I 125 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't even recognize you, bro if you didn't have gray hairs. 126 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: So you know, I think it gives your character. Man. Obviously, 127 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: you know everybody who's knowing you for so long, you know, 128 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: probably feels the same way. Man. You know, good, thank you, 129 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: thank you, and you and you you know what I'm 130 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: saying you the man, so well, I appreciate that dog. 131 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's let's kind of jump into that 132 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: NFL career of talking about that in one special season 133 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: that we share was in two thousand and nine when 134 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: we won Super Bowl forty four versus the Colts in Miami. 135 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: At the end of all that that season, Um, what 136 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: was your favorite moment from that season? You've had some 137 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: special moments, Reggie. I mean not only you know. I 138 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: don't want to take anything from you or give you 139 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of ops. I want you to speak 140 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: on it first, but I mean you do from like 141 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: the eight yard line at one point, like you've had 142 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: some very very special moments, So please go. Let's just 143 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: take it away from there. Um. Well, that Miami game 144 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: you're talking about was a special one because you know, 145 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: I just remember us going to Miami and you know 146 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: that being a dog fight. Like Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown. 147 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 1: It felt like they had like two hundred yards each 148 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: in the first half. It was that was like first half. 149 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: Clearly first half was running right and so um, you know, 150 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: just that second half is where we really geled together. Um, 151 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: we fought back. Um, you was making plays. I was 152 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: making plays. I had to dive where I took off 153 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: from like an eight yard line, like you said. And 154 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: you know the thing about whenever I dove in the 155 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: end zone, it was me saying or showing that I'm 156 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: gonna score no matter what, at all costs, you know. 157 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: So it's not something that I practice. You never saw 158 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: me dive in practice ever never, Nobody ever wants never 159 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: seen Reggie on the bush on the ground that way. 160 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: It was only in games that would come out, you know, 161 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: and and all honesty, it's not something I prepared for. Um. 162 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: It was not something I practice. It was just like, 163 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: if I'm within ten yards of this end zone, I'm 164 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: jumping because if I got to get a ball to 165 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: Deuce on the one yard line or to Pierre in 166 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: the one yard line or whoever it is. You know 167 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I might not get that opportunity back. 168 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: So yeah, they're gonna pull you two as you get 169 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: on that too. They read every time every time they 170 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: act like I can't run between the tackles and on 171 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: the goal line. You know what I'm saying. And you 172 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: know it started at USC when you know me Lindale 173 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: obviously were you know, thunder and lightning, and we were 174 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: going back and forth and and same thing though. You know, 175 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: if I got tackled on the one or two, they 176 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: was gonna bring Lindelle in there and handle on football. 177 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: So I'm like, you know what f this, I'm getting 178 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: the end zone. I don't care what I gotta do. 179 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: I gotta break somebody leg, I gotta bite somebody fingernails off, 180 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: whatever I gotta do, I'm getting in the end zone. 181 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: And you know that's kind of where the diving and 182 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: the jumping, you know started. But um, you know, just 183 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: going back to that two thousand and nine season, you know, 184 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: it was so special for us because everything we were 185 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: playing for, you know, from from two thousand and six, uh, 186 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, months removed when we and as crazy as 187 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: what people may not know is we got drafted to 188 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: New Orleans five months after Katrina. It was a third 189 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: world country. When you went down there, it looked like 190 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: a war zone, you know. And there I remember there 191 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: was curfew at like eight o'clock. People had to be inside. Um, 192 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: nothing was open, No businesses were open. You know. You 193 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: can see still see obviously a lot of the destruction 194 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: spray paint you know on the houses with the number 195 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: of bodies found inside the houses. And this is like 196 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: what we're driving through to get to practice every single day. 197 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: You know. We're trailers. Yeah, the female trailers were a 198 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: huge thing. Please. Yeah. And it was just, you know, 199 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: it was a time period where, um, you know, I 200 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: felt like there was a bigger purpose you know for 201 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: us being down there, and there was a reason why 202 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, that team was brought together, you know, was 203 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: to to help restore hope into the city and to um, 204 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, uplift people's spirits, you know by winning football games. 205 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Because before we got there, the Saints were not good, 206 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: um you know, and they had some some pretty bad 207 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: seasons for a couple of years before that, and we 208 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: were kind of like the new kids on the block, 209 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: you know, in that two thousand and sixth season, and 210 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: we were able to make some noise. Go to the 211 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, we were one half removed from playing 212 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, and you know, I think us 213 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: losing that NFC Championship game left a bitter taste in 214 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: our mouth, but it also showed us that, hey, we 215 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: belong here and we can do this. And the next 216 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: two years, you know, we kind of faltered, We were average, 217 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, and then the year four, you know, two 218 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: thousand and nine is when it just all clicked, all 219 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: came together. And you know, that's when Greg Williams came 220 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: over and I really felt like, you know, just his 221 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: attacking style of defense, the way you guys played. You 222 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: the defense was the reason why you know, we we 223 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: a big piece of reason why that we won that 224 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl that year because you mean, you guys were 225 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: just you guys, turnovers, ferocious, like everything that that team 226 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: needed in that time period. Um is what you what 227 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: you guys brought, you know, to the table. And some 228 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: of those practices that we had, man, those were blood 229 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: bath practices, like y'allways chirping that drew anytime you got 230 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: the interception, whole team celebrating the end zone. So that 231 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: fired us up. We had to come back, you know 232 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and score touchdowns. And it was just 233 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: those battles, man, those practices that we had from training 234 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: camp to the season, and that's really where we built 235 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: that that championship team. You know, it is within those 236 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: practices and those um you know, those those times where 237 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, the camera's not on when we're not on 238 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: the football field on Sundays and playing, and we built 239 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: a relationship that I felt like goes far beyond the 240 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: football field. Um, you know, to this day, all y'all 241 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: are still my brothers. Y'all know that we still be 242 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: on the group chat talking trash all day with Arnie 243 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: and the Strief and Vilma and you know, all these dudes. Man. 244 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: And so that's what I appreciated most about that time 245 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: period that I was in New Orleans, that we were 246 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: in New Orleans together, was just the relationships that we built. 247 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: Man and coach, you know, Coach Vicki's always say they're 248 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna walk together forever. It's true. There's no truer words. 249 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: It's true. I didn't I would hear him say it 250 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: all the time, you don't really pay attention to it. 251 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: He said something else all the time too. It's like 252 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: when you're in like when you're living in the greatest 253 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: time in your life, you don't realize it, right, and 254 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: those are some of the greatest times of our lives, literally, 255 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: and you don't realize it. You just kind of live 256 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: in life. You're taking it. You're taking it for a 257 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: little bit you're taking it for granted mostly and then 258 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: you wake up and you're like, dude, that really was 259 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: something special. And talking about the super Bowl. We win 260 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, great season. What did you do after? 261 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: What was that party scene for you? Afterwards? Just don't 262 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: four party scene? I get it. What was that like 263 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: being Reggie Bush after winning the Super Bowl? Man? You 264 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: know what after or we wasn't that super Bowl that night? 265 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: I think I went to Live. I want to live 266 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: that night we all went to Live. I did not go. 267 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: I ended up going the story Live was like twenty 268 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: something sex. It was like crazy. It was it was. 269 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: It was too crazy and I had to boyson me. 270 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: So it was too much. It was. But yes, yes, 271 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: just being in Miami winning that super Bowl, um man, 272 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: it was such an amazing time period, especially for Saints fans, 273 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: for the organization, for us, the players, um you know, 274 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: being able to win that in Miami against the Colts, 275 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, was it was larger than life. Man. It 276 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: was the biggest thing ever. You know. It was like 277 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: you said in that moment, you know, I was excited. 278 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: I was happy. I was you know, celebrating we finally 279 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: did it. But I had to be honest, like two 280 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: weeks later, I was already like, okay, let's go get 281 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: the next one, you know what I'm saying. It was 282 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: like I didn't take enough time to enjoy it, you know, 283 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: I was already trying to think about how are we 284 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: gonna get number two? You know what I'm saying. And 285 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: that's the thing about when you win championships, especially when 286 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: you're able to win them at the highest level, it's 287 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: like a drug because you want it again. You know, 288 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, that was fun, but I want to 289 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: do that x amount more times. And you know, I 290 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: remember us going to do you remember our our parade. 291 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: Our parade was crazy. Oh my god, legendary. That parade 292 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: was was awesome, man. And they said it was gonna 293 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: be three hours and it lasted about eight. Well, that 294 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: ain't no way that parade was gonna last three hours. 295 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we had every street it was just lines 296 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: and just thousands of people every street. No, it doesn't 297 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: matter what street you looked on. It was just packed 298 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: with people. And we were on our Marty Guard floats, 299 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: you know, going through the French Quarter, going through Uptown. 300 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: And so I'll never forget this story. I ended up 301 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: being on somehow. I don't know how I end up 302 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: being on Sean's float. So it's me Sean Mickey or 303 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: he's on the float. Um somehow. Jay Glazier was on 304 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: the float. No idea why. He had nothing to do 305 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: with the team, but he on the floe celebrated with us, 306 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: and so everybody's lit up, right, everybody, everybody's payton is 307 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: lit up. And so coach decides, I don't even know 308 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: if people know this story. He decides, as we are 309 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: going through uptown, he decides to jump off the floe 310 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl trophy. Didn't warn, nobody, didn't tell, nobody, 311 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: didn't ask permission, Yeah, security, all kinds of stuff. It's 312 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: thousands of people. As soon as you step off this floe, 313 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: by himself starts running down the street with the trophy 314 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: above his head. Bro, I promise you, So this is crazy. 315 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: Nobody nobody saw him but me. I was the only 316 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: one that saw him running down the street. And I 317 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: was like, hey, y'all need to go get shot over there, 318 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: because he's running down the street with the trophy, and 319 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: all of all you saw was just thousands of people, 320 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: like the swarming bees, just right on top of him. 321 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: You can't see him anymore, but you saw the trophy 322 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: just bouncing around down, top down, the free card through 323 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: this crowd, and it was it was so crazy because 324 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: it was just one of those things where it was 325 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: just like sudden and security had the round there and 326 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: get them whatever it was. But it was obviously all 327 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: in fun and um, you know, it was a great time, man. 328 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: I think winning the Super Bowl for the city of 329 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: New Orleans during that time period is one of the 330 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: greatest memories and accomplishments of my life. You know. Let's 331 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: talk about another accomplishment, um, and that is in twenty nineteen, 332 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: you were inducted into the Saints Hall of Fame. Could 333 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: you take me through that, your emotions, how to feel, 334 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: where you're surprised, where you shot, and then I'm gonna 335 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: tell the people, um, the biggest Reggie Bush moment after 336 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Um, you know, I was I was happy, 337 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, I was excited because, um, you know what 338 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: we built in New Orleans, that team. You know, all 339 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: those guys that played our draft class. Everybody played double 340 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: digit years, which is crazy. You know, even even Nikovic, 341 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, he left left us and 342 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: went on to you know, Um, the Patriots end up 343 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: having an amazing career. So it was like everybody from 344 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: our draft class, even down to Coaston, who was you know, 345 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: one of the last picks and ended up becoming one 346 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: of the greatest receivers. Yeah, I think it's second second 347 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: to last pick. And you know, it's just the the 348 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: way that everything worked out, the people that we brought in, Um, 349 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: it was just awesome, man. And to be able to 350 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, celebrate that with Missus Benson, um, and with 351 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, coach and my teammates and just knowing that 352 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, my name was gonna be up there with 353 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: you guys and for everything we did, you know, for 354 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: that organization and for the city. UM. That's what it's 355 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: all about. You know, that's what it's all about. It 356 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: It's all about just you know, leaving everything on the 357 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: field and having no regrets. Um. And I really felt 358 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: like I gave everything I had, you know, to every 359 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: team while I could, you know, and especially to the 360 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: city of New Orleans. Like New Orleans is my home 361 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: away from home. I love that place to death. I 362 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: love all the people down there, the fans and some 363 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: of the best food in the world. I don't care 364 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: where you've been, where you ate. You ain't eating New Orleans. 365 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: You ain't had the best food. I could not deny 366 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 1: that and totally agree with you. Could I could? I 367 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: just I want to know this too, because this is 368 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: the biggest Reggie push moment? Is that? So Reggie gets 369 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: inducted into the Hall of Fame? You going with? Do 370 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: you going with Lance? Or Coaston? Coasting with Marcus Coasting? Beautiful? 371 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: All right? So I come, I'm not in yet. I 372 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: come because I want to support my guys, same draft class. 373 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: I ain't doing nothing, So tell them and going behold 374 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: you know who's late and don't even show up peel 375 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: game time the next day of the Hall of Fame Families. There, 376 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: wife's looking beautiful, none other than Reginald Bush right here 377 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: by man. He's like, you know, couldn't make the flight 378 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: after my show like Orni's like, Dude, as much money 379 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: as this mother joker has made, he wouldn't just get 380 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: a private jet just like get him there, wouldn't do it. Well, 381 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: we missed you, Red, That's all I'm saying. It was 382 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: a great speech that you supposedly did. It was amazing. 383 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: My wife gave the speech. Lelite looked beautiful, all right, 384 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: it was. It was awesome, all right, it was good. 385 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: The boys, their daughter, everybody looked great. We just missed you. 386 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: Just let you know. It was the most Reggie Bush moment. Yes, 387 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: this is okay. Please please explain, because we were there always. 388 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: As y'all know, New Orleans, Louisiana is a city up 389 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: for a lot of these storms that happened, rain storms 390 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: would be some of the most powerful storms you've ever 391 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: seen in your life. True, that day, there was a 392 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: bad storm and a lot of the fights got delayed 393 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: or canceled, and the airport, the New Orleans, the airport 394 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 1: New Orleans ended up losing power during this storm, and 395 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: so a lot of fights going into New Orleans got 396 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: really delayed. And so my fight was delayed, and you know, 397 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: it was last minute. There's no way to call um, 398 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, a private jet, last minute like that, you know, 399 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: it was I had already booked his flight, and I 400 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: was already you know, at the airport, you know, pulled 401 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: up and I didn't know until I got there that 402 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: it was gonna be that delayed. And I'm like, oh 403 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: my god, I'm about to miss my Hall of Fame 404 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: in duction speech like what am I? What do I do? 405 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: Like can y'all can y'all hold him? Hold him for 406 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: a little bit? Or can't hold it? Dog? We all here, 407 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: We all in the building. We are all in the building. 408 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it was one of those one 409 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: of those just times where it was literally out of 410 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: my control, you know, and I really wanted to be 411 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: there obviously to you know, obviously be able to give 412 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: a speech, and but my wife held it down for me. Man. 413 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of having you know, a spouse. 414 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: That's the beauty of beauty of having a best friend, UM, 415 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: is that you know, we we we counterbalance each other 416 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: and when there's times where there's something that she can do, 417 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: I pick up for it. When there's things that you know, 418 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: sometimes I can't do or things I can't make it 419 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: and she can hold it down for me, then that's 420 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: what she does. And that's I think the best part 421 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 1: about me and my wife's relationship is that, um, we 422 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: love each other, We support each other, and you know, 423 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 1: if one of us is ever in a jam and 424 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: we got to pick up the slack for the for 425 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: the other person, and that's what we're there for, and 426 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: then we're gonna do that. Reggie, I've met Lalage quite 427 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: a few times. Number one, up, Hats off to the 428 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: Laitue for picking up the speech because it was funny. Uh, 429 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: because nobody was. It was practice. By the way, she 430 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: is not prepared for this at all, but she held 431 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: it down. So shout out to the Lague. And I 432 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: know her. She's beautiful, She's amazing, and Bro, nobody's gonna 433 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: have your back more than her, And like, if you 434 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: need a h of body, she would do it for you. 435 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: And you know that. You know that now this is 436 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: this is not the only Hall of Fame that you're 437 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: in this year. Yeah, College Football Hall of Fame new 438 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: and ductee this year's class. My man, Reggie Bush, I 439 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: want to first of all tell you congratulations on that. 440 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: That's a huge, huge deal. And knowing the history of 441 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: what you've had at USC, the nc double A, all 442 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: of what college football as much as you meant to 443 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: it or did for it, and what it has done 444 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: to you on the other side of that, did you 445 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: ever see this happening? And also I want to also know, man, 446 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: like where were you at how'd you find this? Out, 447 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: like who told you? True, I've already told me that 448 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: Corney told me weeks before it even happened, So I 449 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: had already already knew Corney leaked it out, you know, 450 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: because Corney he leaked it out to me. But um, 451 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, I m you know, it's funny as I 452 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: actually wasn't. I wasn't even thinking about College Football Hall 453 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: of Fame. Yeah, you know that that was not something 454 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: that was on my mind. Uh, it was something that 455 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna eventually happen. I just didn't 456 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: know when you know what I'm saying because of the 457 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: nature of everything that happened while I was at USC 458 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: and um, you know, the things that were done to 459 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: the university to me through the NC double A and 460 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: this that constant, uphill battle, that fight, you know, against 461 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: the incable A. And you know, I'm happy that, you know, 462 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: I'm finally not into the College Football Hall of the 463 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Um. You know, I think that I 464 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: earned it. And again, I don't want anything given to 465 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: me for free. You know, I want everything that I get, 466 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: I want to earn it. You know, I want to 467 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: make sure that I put in a body of work 468 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: to show people that he deserves this or whatever that is. Um. 469 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: And and so you know when I when Ornie told 470 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: me the news, I was excited. I was happy, and 471 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: UM I told my wife, told my kids. You know, 472 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: they were all excited and happy, and UM, you know 473 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to you know, the actual induction ceremony, dinner, 474 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: all those different things, and um, you know it's been 475 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: a long time coming. Man. Um. You know, I think 476 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: when I look back on my college career, it was 477 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: the place for me where I grew so much and 478 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: where I became a man because coming from high school, um, 479 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, I was a great football player and and 480 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: and played against you know, great talent, but you know, 481 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: I felt like also my talent level was you know, 482 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: at a certain level. And then when you get to 483 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: college you realize, oh, everybody's an All American. Everybody is 484 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, one of the best that you know where 485 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: they came from. And so there was just that that 486 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: shift I think in my mind where I had to 487 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: go earn it all over again. I had to go 488 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: prove myself all over again to my teammates, to the 489 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: fan base, to the coaches. You know, this was not 490 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: gonna be something that was gonna be easily given to 491 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: me because of what I did in high school. But 492 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: yet I was gonna have to go in and put 493 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: the body of work in all over again and reprove myself. 494 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I thought Pete Carroll did a great 495 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: job at creating, you know, just competition he created. It 496 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: was always competition on the field, and that's that was 497 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: the one thing that drove us, I think was because 498 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: you couldn't relax because you had another five star behind you, 499 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: You had another five star behind him, and SC was 500 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: so loaded. I don't think people that watch college football 501 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: now understand how SC people in when I was in 502 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: college read to a couple of things. I talked about 503 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: the trend setting that you guys did and the West Coast. 504 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: But you know, people believe that USC would never ever falter, 505 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: that they would be what Alabama has now become or 506 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: what Georgia seems to be wanting to become now in 507 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: college football space. And so we all know that college 508 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: football goes in these ebbs and flows. But man, what 509 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: you guys and Pete Carroll created was crazy, Like everybody 510 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: wanted to put up the V for victory. What you 511 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: guys did I don't know your colors completely. I know 512 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: it's yellow, and you know our colors. I didn't know 513 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: it's not cardinal because maroon is a maroon, not maroon. 514 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: What is it? Like? What is you know what it is? 515 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: It's something in yellow? What is its? Cardinal? And gold? Man? Bad? 516 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: My bad. I didn't want to get it wrong, see 517 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. My bad, My bad, My bad. Dog. 518 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm better than that. You're right, I am better than that. 519 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: I'm a West Coast guy. You know that. But can 520 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: we talk about Let's just stay right there, because I 521 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: want to talk about a couple of trends that you 522 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: guys said. It set in college, all right, Red, you 523 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: guys were the first ones to where like regulation like 524 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: socks to like calfs to the calf and make make 525 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: that look hot. You know what I'm saying? Like the 526 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: boys was like I was in Alabama wearing my socks 527 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: at practice of like right below my calf muscle because 528 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: that's what sc was doing. And I'm literally playing college 529 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: ball too. But I'm like, bro, yeah, I'm trying to 530 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: be like that. I don't know the rest of y'all doing, 531 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to be like good boys out there, Broca, 532 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: like that's where it's at all right. That was one thing. 533 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: You were also one of the first people where and 534 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: where'd you get this from? To put the sixth one 535 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: now in your area code? Yeah, underneath your I passed. 536 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: That was like game changer. A couple of different things. 537 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: Lindell had the different colored visors. You guys had celebrities 538 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: on the on the sidelines, Will Ferrell, you can name 539 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: them off. Just take me into like when all that started, 540 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: and did you guys really really recognize like how much 541 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: you were impacting college football in the country at the time. Well, 542 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: like you said, you know, you never really, um feel 543 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: like this is, you know, the greatest time of your life, 544 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: because you know, when you're in those moments, it just 545 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: feels like you're living, you know, it just feels like 546 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: you're working and you're grinding, um, you know, the six 547 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: one nine unneath my eyes. That started. Actually I would 548 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: write my area code as where I'm from San Diego. 549 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: I would write that on my wrist tape. And at 550 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: some point, you know, I think I stopped wearing risk tape. 551 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: And Tino, who was our equipment manager m was was 552 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: always you know, we were always like just messing around 553 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: with just you know, how can we make this look cool? 554 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: How we can make just different things look cool. And 555 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: so I came into the locker room one time and 556 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: he was just writing, you know, different things on the 557 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: eyeblacks and I was like, oh, maybe we should write 558 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: six one nine on there, you know, the area code. 559 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: Let's let's try it out. And so we went out 560 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: to practice with it and it got a you know, 561 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: I got a pretty good reception. I was like, you know, 562 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do this in the game, you know. 563 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: And I always wanted to the reason why I did 564 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: it because I always wanted to, um pay homage to 565 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: my hometown where I came from. You know, we talk 566 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: about putting the city on your back on the map, 567 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: you know, so to speak. And that was kind of 568 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: my way of, you know, paying homage to my hometown 569 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: where I came from. UM, the people that helped me 570 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: get there, my high school coaches, literal league, I mean, everybody, 571 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so I wanted to 572 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: really you know, kind of you know, show that respect 573 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: UM while playing football on the field. And that's kind 574 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: of where it started, you know, it was. It was 575 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 1: literally something that simple. Was just our equipment manager kind 576 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: of like playing around with just different things. And and 577 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: then when I came in there, we was like, yo, 578 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: we we're gonna try this in the game. And it 579 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: got a great reception, you know, And and had we 580 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: been losing, I don't know, does that ever become a 581 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: trend like that Maybe never becomes a trend if we 582 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: lose it. If you lose it, people can be like, oh, 583 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: that's trash man, we should be doing over there. Man, 584 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: you don't know what he's doing. People in the sixth 585 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: one nine, let the reb Let you represent that bro. 586 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: We not eat with us, to eat with us. We 587 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: don't know him. We don't know him. But but that's 588 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: kind of where it started. Man. And you know, it's 589 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: also funny because in the Fresno State game, Um, I 590 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: was rocking the one sleeve? Yeah did that? Did that? 591 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: One got torn? Right? It got torn? It wasn't again, 592 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: but now all of us do it. Everybody rock everybody, 593 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 1: So you know, it was in the game. I was 594 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: obviously bawling and I was running through a tackle and 595 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: my right sleeve got torn and ripped, and it was 596 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: just like hanging and I was just like, yo, cut 597 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: it off, man, let's go like, let's get back in 598 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: the game. Cut it off. And I'm not even thinking that, 599 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: like people are gonna last onto this and this could 600 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: become a new tram with one sleeve, one arm sleeves, 601 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: and you know, that's kind of ended up being one 602 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: of the best games of my career, you know, the 603 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: college level. And you know, again, when when you're playing 604 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: at a high level and you do little things like that, 605 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, people catch on to it. And I think, um, 606 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, people obviously liked it, and it was kind 607 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: of welcomed into the college football world, you know. But 608 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: again a lot of these different trends and things that 609 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: we did at USC was it was not on purpose. 610 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: It was by mistake or accident, you know, and we 611 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: just kind of ended up, you know, latching onto it 612 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: and became a thing. Um. But you know this again 613 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: that time period at USC, I became a man. The 614 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: players of guys that I played with pushed me to 615 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: get to that Heisman Trophy, to win the Heisman Trophy. 616 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: I did not win that by myself, you know, because 617 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: every single day in practice, similar to our two thousand 618 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: and nine season. It was like that. Every single day 619 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: in practice, we were trying to knock each other's heads off. 620 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: We were going at each other. It was trash talking. 621 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: Even the coaches was trash talking to us. Like one 622 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,719 Speaker 1: of one of our our our linebacker coaches was Ken 623 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: Norton Jr. I was gonna say it was Ken Norton 624 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: then he was there with you guys, right and anybody 625 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: who knows Kid Norton knows he is one of the 626 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: greatest talkers that has ever existed, right Ever, like Sharp, 627 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: we see Shandon Sharp talks a lot of trash, Kid Norton, 628 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: same way. And I think it was just something about 629 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: that era, you know what I'm saying, that era of athletes, 630 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: an era of players, because the game was much more 631 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: violent back then. The rules were way different. You could 632 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: destroy a quarterback back then, and so it was just 633 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: a different era, you know, of athletes, and a lot 634 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: of those guys, you know, I think about those are 635 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: guys that I grew up watching, you know what I'm saying. 636 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: I still have a folder I don't have it here 637 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: right now. I have a folder for when I was 638 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: growing up of trading cards that I collected and I 639 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: went back through this kind of crazy. Man, this is 640 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: like full circle. I went back. Let me go blow 641 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: my thing off back there, let me go pull it out, 642 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: open it up. Man. I had so many cards in 643 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: there of guys who now I'm friends with or have 644 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: gotten to know. So Ken Norn Jr. I had like 645 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: five of his cards. Um. And these are guys who, really, um, 646 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: I looked up to. You know, when I was playing 647 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: in the league, and one of my favorites ever was 648 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, you know, Prime coach Prime, and he is 649 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: literally the reason why you know, I wanted to play football. 650 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: And so it was Dion Sanders and Barry Sanders. So 651 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: I tried to emulate my game after Barry, but I 652 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: really wanted to be Prime, and so I tried to 653 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: mix the best of both of them. So that's why 654 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: Dion return punts, I return punts. That's where all started, 655 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: was watching him return punts, and you know, Barry Sanders 656 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: didn't return punts. I was like, you know what, I'm 657 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: gonna figure out how I can do both of these, 658 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: you know, So I tried to emulate Barry from the 659 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: running back position and then Prime returning punts, and just 660 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: that showmanship that he brought to the game. I mean nobody, 661 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: nobody was flasher than the Prime bro Like nobody I 662 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: still got. I got a big poster in my bedroom, 663 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: but Prime I got went in my house right now, 664 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: autograph that I wanted an auction, and just like he 665 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: was completely measurment. I mean he was, he was play 666 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: defense and he was completely polarizing. I want to put 667 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: a you know, start to wind his college career down 668 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: because I want to jump into what you're doing now. 669 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: Um number one, UM, do you feel vindicated now now 670 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: that you're going to the College Football Hall of Fame? 671 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: Because you've been very vocal about um, your your past history, 672 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: your your legacy, the treatment of between the NC DOUBLEA 673 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: and you all these back and force Mark Emert, like 674 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: you've been very open and honest about that. Do you 675 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: feel vindicated, Reggie Bush? Vindicated? Wow? UM, I don't know, 676 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: because I took so much blame for everything that happened 677 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: at USC, you know, for for the things that went 678 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: on and this you gotta understand, I was eighteen years old, 679 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: nineteen years old, you know when when um, when this 680 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: stuff happened. Um, there were a bunch of lies that 681 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: were told that were never brought to light about the 682 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: true nature of what was going on behind closed doors 683 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: into double A. UM decided to paint a narrative about 684 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: me that was untrue. It literally just was not true. UM. 685 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: And and it's you know, it's it's it's hard to 686 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: and it looks as as an as a person, anytime 687 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: somebody says a lie about you, you're gonna want to 688 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: defend yourself, you know what I'm saying right away. And 689 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: I never really got that chance, you know, to really 690 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: defend myself because the facts that were thrown out there 691 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: were just not true, um, you know about what the 692 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: nc DOUBLEA was doing, and there was just no real 693 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: true investigation. Um that happened. A lot of people think 694 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: that there was this detailed investigation that went on. It 695 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: literally there was one of the worst investigations that has 696 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: ever happened because the NCUBA just decide did not to 697 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 1: do their homework. Um. And then my running back coach 698 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: at the time period, Um, you know, this was all 699 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 1: penned on my running back coach because I was already gone. 700 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: So people gotta understand I had already left college. So 701 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: there was nothing that the NABA could do to me, right, 702 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: they're not. It's not like the FBI or the police 703 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: department where they got subpoena power. You gotta come. Like 704 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: I was already gone in the league with you guys, 705 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and I already shifted my 706 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: focus to New Orleans and to how I was going 707 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: to help you know, this city. Um, and so a 708 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: lot of the things that happened were pinned on my 709 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: running back coach at this time period, Todd McNair. Yeah, 710 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: because he's the only one that they could get because 711 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: he's still in com Yeah. So they just do something, 712 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: get somebody exactly. So it literally just like that. It 713 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: was like, we gotta get somebody, you know what I'm saying. 714 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: And if for anybody who knows anything about the way 715 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: that you know, penalties work for the NC doable A, 716 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: they have to have linked somebody from the university with 717 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: knowledge of what was happening or what was going on, 718 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: or they were a part of it somehow, some way, 719 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: and they said my running back coach was that guy. 720 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: A year later, in twenty ten, he filed a lawsuit 721 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: for defamation and character against the NC doable A. Well, 722 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: they just settled that lawsuit about eight months ago. Yeah, 723 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: that's why I asked, do you feel vindicated because you 724 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: posted this Instagram post, You called about the money, you 725 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: called out Mark Emmet by his name, you said all 726 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: these you know, like you were very open in Canada 727 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 1: about this rest That's why I feel like it's cool 728 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: to talk about it right now and you can continue 729 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: to share. And because it's because people have thought that 730 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: this case has been closed, right, they thought this has 731 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: been done and over. It has not been over. It 732 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: has been ongoing since two thousand and nine. Think about 733 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: how long that's been that. That's how long the NC 734 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: doable A has been fighting this and they just they 735 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: didn't want the public to know that. Right, it's been 736 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: behind closed doors and it hasn't been publicized because the 737 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: NC doable A. First of all, I got understand they 738 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: got billions of dollars. All right, We've got billions of dollars, right, 739 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: So when you're trying to sue a corporation that has 740 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: billions of dollars, it's gonna be a fight. It's gonna 741 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: be an uphill battle because they're not gonna run out 742 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: of money. You will run out of money trying to 743 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: fight them. And so that's honestly why you know, we 744 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: I have just been in this waiting holding pattern because 745 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: I knew at some point when this case settled, the 746 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: facts were gonna come out. And this was this case 747 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: was public for a while, there was a court, there 748 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: was a trial on it. You know, there's things that 749 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: happened within that case and a lot of um, you 750 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: know my opinion, a lot of evidence that came out 751 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: that showed that the nc doable A had malice towards 752 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: us and towards Temac, which was unfortunate because he didn't 753 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: deserve it, His family didn't deserve it. He didn't do 754 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: nothing wrong, He didn't even know anything about what was happening. 755 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: So that's why, you know, when the ruling, when the 756 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: ruling first came out, we were all shocked actually because 757 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: we knew that the NCUBA had there was no evidence 758 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: on their part. They didn't have They just didn't have 759 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: any evidence, you know, So we were really shocked about 760 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: the ruling and the pillaring that came out. And at 761 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: that point, that's when the lawsuit was filed. And that's 762 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: when I was like, Okay, so here we go. We're 763 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 1: gonna wait for this lawsuit to settle and then that's 764 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: when the facts would come out. I just didn't think 765 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: it would take twelve years. I didn't think it was 766 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: gonna take twelve plus years for that case to finally settle. 767 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: But that goes to show you how much the Nuba 768 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: did not want this to happen, and how much and 769 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: how long they chose to fight this. And now look 770 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: now look at it as like what we are right right? 771 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court ruled against him eight nothing was or 772 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: nine nothing. I don't know what it was, eight or 773 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: nine basically, but but what that shows is that one 774 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: what they were one is a violation of human rights. 775 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is where I come 776 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: to with this whole nil thing. Name, image and likeness 777 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: is nil. Is something you are already given at your birth. 778 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: It's your name, your image, and your likeness. N Cuba 779 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: is the only place where you're told you can't benefit 780 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: from that, you know what I'm saying. And in no 781 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: other form of work can you do that. If you 782 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: work for me, I cannot tell you Rome, you can't 783 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: go make money off your name, image of likeness once 784 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: you leave this ability. You know what I'm saying and 785 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: that's that's but those are the rules in the games 786 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: that were put in place, in my opinion, to hold 787 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 1: back one group of people and to elevate another group 788 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: of people. And it's literally that simple, No, it really is. Um. 789 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: One more question on this Heisman thing, and that is 790 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: that on the I Am an Athlete podcast a few 791 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: months ago, you talked about it and you said the 792 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: trophy is coming back. Yeah, m is it close to 793 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: coming back? What's your opinion on that now? And UM, 794 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: I would like to know. I mean I always said, Reggie, 795 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: I think you were crazy for giving it back, but hey, 796 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 1: you know how you know how I feel. I've told 797 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: you that since day one. Anyways, go I listen, I 798 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 1: didn't want to give it back. So let me just 799 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: go ahead and say that, like, this was not something 800 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: that I wanted to do. It was just something in 801 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: that time period I felt was the right thing to do. Correct, 802 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: because the human side of me was like, f y'all, yeah, 803 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm like giving this back. I earned it, you know, 804 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: I grinded, I put into work. Y'all saw what I 805 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: did on the football fields back and like you didn't 806 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: see that, you know what I'm saying, and it is 807 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 1: what it is. But you know, in that time period 808 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: where all this media attention was on the trophy and 809 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: was on me, was all just negative energy. I wanted 810 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: to be able to shift my focus and have just 811 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: a clear mindset of where I was going, if that 812 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: makes sense. So when I know it makes complete sense, 813 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: it's like the trophy seemed to be bringing all this 814 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: negativity here, just hey exactly, and then next you know, 815 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: I will be able to focus and go with all 816 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: this because this is what it's all about. You can't 817 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: punish me. So if this is what it's about, then 818 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: take it right. And I didn't want to bring that 819 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: energy into New Orleans because at that time period, you know, one, 820 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: I was supposed to be drifting to Houston number one. 821 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: And the reason why there's another reason why, another story 822 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: of why that didn't happen, which but that was all 823 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: because of the Heisman Trophy and everything that was going on. 824 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: But going to New Orleans, you know, when that happened, 825 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 1: the first thing they did was they flew me in 826 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: and they took me on a tour through all the devastation. 827 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: And right then, right there, I felt this great sense 828 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: of responsibility to the people of New Orleans, to the 829 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: city that there's something much bigger here that needs to happen. 830 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,919 Speaker 1: And I don't want to bring baggage or negative energy 831 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: along with me into the situation, because these people need 832 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: my best and they need my one hundred percent locked 833 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: in focus. And as long as I'm still getting phone 834 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 1: calls and text messages and questions in the locker room 835 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: about the Heisman Trophy and it's everything's about that, you know, 836 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,720 Speaker 1: that's focused on New Orleans, I can't fully be myself. 837 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,400 Speaker 1: I can't fully dive in and lock in. And I 838 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: just didn't. I felt like the people didn't deserve that 839 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: down there in New Orleans, like it was it was 840 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: something much bigger. Sometimes you go into these situations and 841 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: it's just something it's just bigger than it was, bigger 842 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: than football, right, It's it feels like there's you know, 843 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 1: there's there was just you know, I don't know, there's 844 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: just a greater connection there that it was waiting for us, 845 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,959 Speaker 1: you know. And we all got involved into helping people 846 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: rebuild their homes, donating money physically out there, nailing down 847 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, boards and stuff on top of people's houses, 848 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: and and so you know when you're in a situation 849 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: like that one. What it did for me was it 850 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: just gets when the city of New Orleans welcomed me 851 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: with open arms, it really lit a fire underneath me 852 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: and made me just want to dive in and give 853 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 1: these people everything. And so that's, honest to God. You know, 854 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: part of the reason why, a big reason why I 855 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: gave it back because I just wanted to focus. And 856 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: then also I knew at some point when all these 857 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: facts start to come out, people are going to see 858 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: the truth, right and that trophy is going to end 859 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: up coming back. Where are we staying right now? My 860 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: attorneys have been in contact with the NCUBA for some 861 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: time now. We've pressed them, We've sent them demands letters. Basically, 862 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: we sent them fifty six page letter identifying every hole 863 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: in an investigation, every issue that's wrong with what everything 864 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: that happened. And next some amount of months later, I'm 865 00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, where to God, this is 866 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,959 Speaker 1: literally how it happened. We pressed them, were like listen 867 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: once the because once the court case set then that 868 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: gave us factual proof to where the NCLABA had nowhere 869 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: to run. Right, You've already got the Supreme Court ruling, 870 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: and now you got this court case that just crumbled 871 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: underneath you. And so now all the facts are there, 872 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: and now y'all literally can't run, You can't go anywhere, 873 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,240 Speaker 1: you can't hide. All right, this is what the facts 874 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: are showing and have said, and same thing. We sent 875 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: that same information to the Heisman Trust and so um 876 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: where we are right now, we're in a holding pattern 877 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: waiting for them to respond. That's that's kind of where 878 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: it is. But do I believe it's gonna come back? 879 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: I've always felt that way in my heart of hearts. 880 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: I've always felt like that, you know, I've never I 881 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: always felt like once the once the facts come out, 882 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: you know, the trophy is gonna come back. I totally wholeheartedly. 883 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: I work in the college football space too. Now you 884 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 1: know that I believe it's gonna come back to UM. 885 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: Tell me this, because first of all, I gotta give 886 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 1: you some credit. You and your boys, you know, pressing 887 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: these cats, you know, like big worm. You know what 888 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But do you think all this extra pressure, 889 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: all this extra stuff, do you think that impacted your 890 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: career early in your career in New Orleans or at 891 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,840 Speaker 1: any other time and throughout your career, like having to 892 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: deal with all this stuff for twelve years, Reds. You know, 893 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 1: over twelve years, did this impact your career or your 894 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: thought process or any other part, or maybe you can 895 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: point out a specific game or a moment that comes 896 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: to mind. You're like, man, it was just in my 897 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: head and I could not shake it. It was every day. Um, 898 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: I'm being lying to you. Every day has been on 899 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,439 Speaker 1: my mind, every single day since two thousand and nine. 900 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: The Heisman Trophy has been right here at the front 901 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: of my head, and it's it's been something that I 902 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: thought about. Um, it's been something that has drove me, 903 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: you know, to depression at one point. You know, when 904 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: I was in New Worlds, it was crazy, as you know, 905 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: when I got drafted. This is supposed to be the 906 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: happiest time in my life, you know, I'm supposed to 907 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: be I'm living out my dream. I finally made it. 908 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: My opportunities finally here, and I'm at my lowest point spiritually, 909 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm at my lowest point mentally. And I felt broken 910 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 1: honestly because of just the things that were being said 911 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: about me. And then that's what it comes down to. Man, 912 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,360 Speaker 1: when again, when people are calling you one thing and 913 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,400 Speaker 1: they're labeling, labeling you as a certain person as a cheater, 914 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: how am I labeled as a cheater? I ain't never 915 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,680 Speaker 1: cheated a day in my life, especially on that football field, 916 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: you know. And I always always showed up and punched 917 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 1: that ticket, you know what I'm saying, and punched that 918 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 1: clock to go to work. And that was the only 919 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 1: way I knew how to work. It was the only 920 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,320 Speaker 1: way I knew how to how to show up and 921 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: to be great and to be myself. Um. And then again, luckily, 922 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 1: I've been blessed to be surrounded by great teammates like yourself. Um, 923 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: like all my teammates at USC, guys that pushed me 924 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: to get there every single day. It was like it 925 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: was like this unspoke it's an unspoken bond, as you know. Um, 926 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,680 Speaker 1: that unspoken bond is like I'm gonna show up every 927 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,879 Speaker 1: single day and I'm gonna push you, right, I'm gonna 928 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: push you to to to be your best because I'm 929 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 1: gonna be at my best, right. And so if I'm 930 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: gonna be at my best, one or two things is 931 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: gonna have to happen. When I stepped across this football field. 932 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop across the sideline from you. Either you're 933 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: gonna rise to the occasion or you're gonna fall. And 934 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: and that's why again I say that usc I became 935 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: a man. It is because I was surrounded by nothing 936 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: but dogs. And when I got to New Orleans again, 937 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: surrounded by nothing but dogs, and you didn't have time 938 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 1: to sit there and and kind of you know, I 939 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 1: think worry about you know, your problems and your issues 940 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 1: and things that were going on. It was like the 941 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: locker room became, um, my escape. It became, you know, 942 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: my sanctuary. It became the place where I could go to. 943 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: I could release my stress. Every single day on that 944 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: football field, I can go into the weight room, you know, 945 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 1: throw up some you know three fifteen or whatever. I've 946 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: seen you. I've seen you, dog, I seen you. I 947 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: seen you. I seen you, dog. I know I've seen 948 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,760 Speaker 1: you do boy thor to weight on that bench, no question, Andy, 949 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: jumping like a forty like I seen it. I seen it. 950 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,280 Speaker 1: So that that became, you know, I think my place 951 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: of peace, you know, um, which is which you know 952 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: I think too. To me now it sounds crazy because 953 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: when you say the football field becomes your place of peace, 954 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: or the football field is the most chaotic play you 955 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: can be. It's literally chaos, right, So how crazy though 956 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: that the football field, the chaos became my place of peace, right, 957 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,280 Speaker 1: became my sanctuary where I can go and get away 958 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: from the outside noise and where you guys couldn't touch me, 959 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: the media, the the my friends, whoever was texting me, 960 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: calling me. It was like, it's just me and this field, 961 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: me and my craft and and and that's the one 962 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: thing I always take away from being able to be 963 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: around you guys, being able to be around players, you know, 964 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: being around that team was just that I needed every 965 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: bit of that in that time period because I was 966 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: in such a broken place spiritually that the city of 967 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: New Orleans, my teammates, everything, it just it brought me 968 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: right back. It was like, Nah, we're not gonna let 969 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 1: you go too far, you know, down his dark path. 970 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep you right here with us. And then 971 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: we end up winning that Super Bowl, man, and I 972 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: was just like the biggest release of just like the 973 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 1: monkeys off my back, breathe fresh air. And you know, 974 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 1: that's what it was about, you know, reg that's really 975 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: amazing though to hear you say that. First of all, 976 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: thanks for being so vulnerable with us and the listeners. 977 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: You know, the fact is like I was your teammate 978 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,720 Speaker 1: and I didn't know, and that was a good friend 979 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: of yours. We hung and we did all those things, 980 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: but like I didn't know all this, so much of 981 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: this burden on you through all these things to the 982 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: Heisman just really was weighing you down all the time. 983 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 1: That literally we got the best version of Reggie when 984 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: he was on the football field because of all the 985 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: things that have been going on off the field. And 986 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: my other comment and kind of the question that I 987 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 1: would ask, is, with all this being said and you 988 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,800 Speaker 1: sharing all this with us, do you think your NFL 989 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: career is any different if you don't have all these 990 00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,760 Speaker 1: other things? And I'm not asking you what you change anything, 991 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: as much as like, how would it be different in 992 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 1: your eyes? Um, if I, if I if that didn't happen, dude, 993 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: I think there would have been a difference in on 994 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: the field. I just think the stress level of everything 995 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 1: I was dealing with is it was the toughest part, right, 996 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: and it's going through you know, the going through the fire, 997 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: right a lot of the times as men were taught 998 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: to suppress, right, suppress whatever issues you got going on. 999 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: You got to be a man about it. Um, you 1000 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,359 Speaker 1: gotta handle it, you know what I'm saying, like a man, 1001 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, and don't cry, you know this and that, 1002 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 1: and you know, don't complain and and so you know, 1003 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: for me, it was just handling those demons of what 1004 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: was coming along with that. And we all go through stuff, right, 1005 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,320 Speaker 1: We all go through trials and tribulations. Were not perfect. 1006 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: We make mistakes and when things happened to us. Um, 1007 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: you know a lot of times, you know, I think 1008 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,520 Speaker 1: people run away from those problems, right, rather as opposed 1009 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 1: to walking through it. But the thing is, when you 1010 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: walk through those problems, you come out you. First of all, 1011 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: you're gonna come out of it, right, You're gonna make 1012 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: it through it, but you're gonna be better on the 1013 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: other side because you walked through and you didn't avoid it. 1014 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,320 Speaker 1: You know. The one thing that I've known I learned 1015 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: is that when you suppressed stuff, at some point in time, 1016 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna come out right, and usually it comes out 1017 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: against the people closest to you. Yeah, and you can 1018 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: hurt them more than anybody else, exactly, and you can 1019 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: hurt them more than anybody else. And that's where the 1020 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: one thing I wish I could go back and change 1021 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,960 Speaker 1: was that, I just wish I didn't allow it to 1022 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 1: affect me as much as it did, because what happened 1023 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: was after my rookie year, I tore my PCL right 1024 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 1: so two thousand seven season, tore my PCL two thousand 1025 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: and eight toward my medium meniscus, didn't have microfracture surgery. 1026 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 1: So for those two years, two and a half year years, 1027 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: while I was injured, I was banged up. I wasn't 1028 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: on the football field. That's when the depression really set in, 1029 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: was because you know, I wasn't on the field doing 1030 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: what I love. I couldn't go on the field and 1031 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 1: run and you know, run routes and all these different 1032 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,760 Speaker 1: things and turnpunts, and I'm watching y'all on TV and 1033 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: it's just a horrible feeling, you know, being injured. And 1034 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: then now media starting to label me as injury prone, 1035 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: and it's like, wait, hold on, man, I ain't never 1036 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: been injury prone the day of my life, you know, 1037 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,479 Speaker 1: until you know, these last two years where I started 1038 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: getting injured and and that's where it can become toxic, 1039 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, for for somebody, you know. And and that's 1040 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: where I think the mental health part of the game, 1041 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 1: that's where it's the toughest, because how do I control 1042 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: this while I'm repeatedly getting hit in this you know 1043 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like two great great, it's two 1044 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: rams going head to head every single day in practice, right, 1045 00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 1: and then you're supposed to go off the field, and 1046 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: I got to control this, well, shoot, hold on, I 1047 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 1: just I got beat up for the last two hours 1048 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 1: on this football field over here. And yet as soon 1049 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: as you walk out of that facility, you already have 1050 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: to take off the armor. You gotta take off, the 1051 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: head play, you gotta put down the sword, you gotta 1052 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: take off, you know, the chess play. You gotta put 1053 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,919 Speaker 1: your shield down. You know what I'm saying, because you're 1054 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,839 Speaker 1: in this barbaric environment on the football field, and then 1055 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 1: you got to quickly, you know, change and transition to 1056 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 1: a normal person. And that's where, you know, it became 1057 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 1: tough for me because I was still mentally in that environment, 1058 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 1: but I just wasn't physically there. And so I dealt 1059 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: with a lot of depression naturally having to take a 1060 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,360 Speaker 1: lot of pain killers for the pain. That was bad 1061 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,479 Speaker 1: for me as well. You know, there was a small 1062 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,280 Speaker 1: diction there with just taking pain killers and just wanting 1063 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,080 Speaker 1: to kind of one I'm wanting to ease the physical pain, 1064 00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 1: but also the mental pain as well that I was 1065 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 1: with And so you know, that was just, um, you know, 1066 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: one of the things that I wish I could go 1067 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,720 Speaker 1: back and take back. And it's something that I'm gonna 1068 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 1: now teach my kids to how to deal with problems, 1069 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: how to deal with that stress, right, don't run from it, 1070 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: but walk through it, because when you walk through it, 1071 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: you become stronger for going through it as opposed to 1072 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: trying to run away from it, because you can't run 1073 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: away from your issues and your problems. They're always gonna 1074 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: be there in the back of your head. And and 1075 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: like you said, at some point, it's gonna come out 1076 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,920 Speaker 1: against the people closest to you, you know. And you know, 1077 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 1: I just didn't have that that that right guidance at 1078 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: that time. But thankfully, you know, I had y'all, you know, right, 1079 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: and I had the football field, and I had my teammates, 1080 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: and that was if I didn't have that. I don't know, Bro, 1081 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. You know that's um, Like I said, Man, 1082 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate that dog because I mean I was your teammate, Bro, 1083 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 1: and I didn't know the depths of everything that you 1084 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: were dealing with at the time. Um. But you know 1085 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 1: a lot of that is because shoot, when we were 1086 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: part of your saying, so we were your release when 1087 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: we got like the best of Reggie. Um. And look, 1088 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 1: I tell everybody to this day, it's a couple of 1089 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: people I love hanging with all the time, and you're 1090 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: one of those because when I with Reggie Bush, nobody 1091 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: ever wants to talk to Roman Harperd. It's like, oh 1092 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 1: it's Reggie Bush. Nobody ever bothers me. I just gotta 1093 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: just like Bro. Love. I love being with Reggie. Love 1094 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 1: it now feeling this blank for me. My life right 1095 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 1: now is blank. Peaceful. It's peaceful and um that's you 1096 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: know to me, that's the thing that everybody wants it, 1097 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: but now everybody has it right and it's free and 1098 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: it's free. Oh that's oh you're preaching right now because 1099 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: piece is free and you know, it's as you go 1100 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 1: through these evan flows of life, these trials, and these tribulations. Um, 1101 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: as you get older, right, it's also part of maturity too, 1102 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: is you start to just under understand and I see 1103 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: life from a different perspective. Now we've got families, We've 1104 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: got a wife and kids. You know, the the I think, 1105 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 1: the reason now why we want to go and get 1106 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: it is much different than when we were playing. Right 1107 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: now we've got something much bigger, a bigger purpose, a 1108 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: larger purpose. Um. You know, I got to be right 1109 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 1: for my kids. Every single day. I need to study 1110 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: and continue to push myself so I can give them 1111 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: knowledge and give them, you know, UM answers to questions 1112 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: that um, you know that I didn't have, and UM, 1113 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: just making sure that they are being led the right way. 1114 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 1: Because leadership, man, is you know what I've learned is 1115 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: leadership is it's it's about going through Um. You know, 1116 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: these these experiences you know, And to me, that's where 1117 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,080 Speaker 1: real leadership comes from. Is you've been through all these experiences. 1118 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: You've been able to you know, fight through some battles 1119 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: and and and go through some things and be able 1120 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: to be successful and all these different things. And so 1121 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: to me, right now, it's just about the leadership. You know, 1122 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 1: of my family and leading my kids the right way, 1123 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: my wife, um, you know, making sure I'm handling business things, 1124 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: different projects that I that I'm involved in, and our 1125 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,920 Speaker 1: college football show as well. You know Big Noo Kickoff, 1126 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 1: which is which has been doing great, dude, it's it's 1127 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: the number one watched, It's one of the if not 1128 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 1: the number one, it's it's one of the top two 1129 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: watch uh programs in those specific hours of college football. 1130 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 1: So hats all. I mean, it's crazy. I look, man, 1131 01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 1: I try to watch it all the times. You know, 1132 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 1: I can't because I'm like all that busy man. Yeah, 1133 01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: it's right there. But I know, I know we all 1134 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 1: watch each other when we get the chance. Bro, you 1135 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 1: know that. It's amazing. Number one, that how many of 1136 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 1: our teammates are all in the media now, which we 1137 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 1: said we never we all we said we would all 1138 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 1: never do it. I would never do this, I never 1139 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 1: do it at the end of the media people, Yeah exactly. 1140 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: But now it's how many from that team. It's me 1141 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 1: you film Ninkovich Street did it for a second for 1142 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: a second, Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's it's multiple multiple facts. Yeah, 1143 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 1: So tell me this, what made you want to get 1144 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 1: into TV, And what's it been like the past few 1145 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: years now getting to go back to these campuses, Like 1146 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: that's the best thing for me. It's getting to go 1147 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,480 Speaker 1: to these campus We never got to tailgate. We never 1148 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: got to experience these places. And you specifically getting to 1149 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,960 Speaker 1: go to you know, back to see or covering the 1150 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 1: Big Ten where it's like cold, and you get to 1151 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: experience like what are the campus life and all those 1152 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: things like give me just share with the people that 1153 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 1: are listeners and things of that, like encapsulate Reggie Bush's life. 1154 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: What made him make these decisions? And how's this whole 1155 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: thing going for you? It's an awesome experience, man, it 1156 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: really is, um, you know, being able to you know this. 1157 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: His other thing too, is I didn't want to come 1158 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 1: back to cons football after all this stuff that happened. 1159 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 1: I never thought about that when they came to I 1160 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 1: was actually doing NFL Network, and I was doing NFL 1161 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: Network for like two three years at this time period. 1162 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: I was doing Thursday Night Football. I was doing the 1163 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Saturday Good Morning Football shows with Nate and and k 1164 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: and you know a Colleen, all these different people, Smitty 1165 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: Um and so I was closely removed from the NFL. 1166 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just gonna stay in the NFL. 1167 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: And Fox came and recruited me for this show. Um 1168 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl when we're in Atlanta, and at 1169 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 1: that time, I was just like, man, I don't think so, 1170 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna do it. I don't know 1171 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: nothing about college football. Um, the last place I want 1172 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 1: to go back to was college football. But you know, 1173 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Fox and Zaeger and Eric Shanks were awesome and they 1174 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 1: they really you know, made it easy for me. Um. 1175 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,920 Speaker 1: They really were like, listen, we want you to be 1176 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 1: part of the show. We think it's gonna be great. 1177 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: We want to rebrand and cosge football show here at Fox, 1178 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 1: and we think can be a great opportunity. And they 1179 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 1: talk to me just about the way it was gonna 1180 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,919 Speaker 1: to look and feel of it and everything that we're 1181 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm so glad I took that, took that 1182 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: leap of faith. Man, I'm so glad. You know, it's 1183 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,720 Speaker 1: a great show. It's a great show. You guys have 1184 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: fun up there too, you we And that's and that's 1185 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: the thing, man is we get a chance to be 1186 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: ourselves and get a chance to have fun and now 1187 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, we're like ambassadors of college football, 1188 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 1: you know, and we get a chance to go to 1189 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: these campuses and and kind of relive, you know, some 1190 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 1: of these experiences because we're celebrated everywhere we go. And 1191 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: that's the best part of of of um, you know, 1192 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: what we do is is being in the college uh experience. 1193 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 1: And at the college level, there's there's a different passion 1194 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 1: than the NFL. Right, it's way different than than than 1195 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: the NFL. You get the pageantry, you get the bands, 1196 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 1: the mascots and student sections, the cheerleaders, like you get 1197 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 1: so much to the eye when you watch the college 1198 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 1: football game. And then being there is even bigger, you know, 1199 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: and it's even it's even greater. So I really enjoy 1200 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, doing college football. Um. You know, man, I 1201 01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: just years ago, I just never thought I would be 1202 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 1: back here. But man, I'm having so much fun with it. 1203 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 1: I love it, enjoy it, and um man, it's just 1204 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what the future holds from 1205 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 1: me and uh at this at this level. All right, 1206 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,919 Speaker 1: one more quick question before we tossed to a break. 1207 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,760 Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta pay some bills. Talk We've been 1208 01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: on and me and you. We could do this all day. 1209 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,560 Speaker 1: You do this all day, and we could literally do 1210 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 1: this all day. And we hadn't talked it a little bit, 1211 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 1: so we hadn't seen each other. So this is like 1212 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: what we do. UM, what's been your favorite campus? UM? 1213 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: Let's see. Ohiuse States always great, Michigan never disappoints. UM. 1214 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,800 Speaker 1: I think this year going to TCU was a lot 1215 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: of fun. Seeing I've never been there. I have no 1216 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 1: idea what campus looks like. Going to Fort Worth, uh 1217 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: was awesome and um just getting a chance to to 1218 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, TCU is a smaller school, a smaller private school. Yeah, 1219 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know that until I really didn't know that. 1220 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:06,959 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, it's really not that many people. 1221 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: But you know, they just seeing a run that they 1222 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 1: went on this year and just seeing kind of, you know, 1223 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 1: just this this magical season that they had. UM and 1224 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 1: following them and being a part of that, you know 1225 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: a little bit, and covering them some of their games, 1226 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,440 Speaker 1: and getting a chance to talk to Max dug In 1227 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 1: and you know, some of these other athletes. To me, 1228 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 1: that's the best part. I love getting a chance to 1229 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 1: actually meet the athletes and talk to them because you 1230 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 1: see so much of ourselves in them, you know, and 1231 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,920 Speaker 1: where they are in their careers at the college level. 1232 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 1: And also I'm just excited for you know, where it 1233 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 1: college football is headed now that you know some of 1234 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 1: these kids can make money off their name, image and likeness, 1235 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: because I just to me, it's when you're at the 1236 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: college level, you're in your prime. When I was eighteen, 1237 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,440 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty years old making all those highlights at USC, 1238 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: I was in my prime, right, And now that these 1239 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 1: kids can benefit from that, they can go and provide 1240 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 1: for their families at a much earlier stage. Right, they 1241 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 1: can take care of themselves, right, They can they can 1242 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: pay some bills, they can put gas in their car. 1243 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 1: These are all things I was worried about in college. 1244 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 1: Was like, where's my next meal gonna be? You know, 1245 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,720 Speaker 1: I don't blame you. Gas is very expensive in LA, 1246 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: very expensive, pensive as hill and then the cost of 1247 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 1: living as well, you know. Um, So it's like a 1248 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 1: lot of the things that were on our minds, things 1249 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 1: that we were thinking about on a daily basis, is 1250 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 1: these kids don't have to worry about that, So the 1251 01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 1: stress level goes down, right, So now you can just 1252 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,640 Speaker 1: kind of really just be yourself, man, just really dive 1253 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 1: in and just be who you are. You don't have 1254 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 1: to rush to the NFL if you don't want to, 1255 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 1: right you can make some money at the college level, 1256 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 1: which I think is very important, you know, because there's 1257 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 1: some guys who feel like I gotta go now because 1258 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 1: I got to get that money right now, because you know, 1259 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: my family's depending on me, you know what I'm saying, 1260 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 1: and so I just love, you know, all these different 1261 01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 1: stories that I'm in a chance to see read and 1262 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 1: hear about me with the young kids at the college 1263 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,720 Speaker 1: level now, because they deserve it, you know, and you know, 1264 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 1: I think it's it's important. It's impactful, you know, for 1265 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,800 Speaker 1: all of them. Man, it's really cool because, like you said, 1266 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 1: we are ambassadors of the college football area and you 1267 01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 1: have so much to do with where this game is 1268 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 1: right now most importantly. So here, let's talk to a break. 1269 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,640 Speaker 1: We got we got like five quick hitters for Reggie Bush. 1270 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,440 Speaker 1: When we get back, all right, talk to a break here. 1271 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,440 Speaker 1: We gotta pay some bills. We'll be back in a minute. 1272 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, keep listening. Red, you know you're my guy. 1273 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 1: Here we go. We got a couple of quick hitters 1274 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 1: for you. I didn't just give us to his first 1275 01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind. This is what we always 1276 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 1: try and give people. Some people we throw people off, 1277 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 1: some we don't whatever. All right, what was your first 1278 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 1: welcome to the NFL moment two thousand and six playing 1279 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,320 Speaker 1: in Division Around playoffs? I didn't know you were gonna 1280 01:07:55,360 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 1: go here, but got my ass laid out. Here's the thing, 1281 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 1: all right. We talked about Damar Hamlin and everything he 1282 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:11,080 Speaker 1: went through, which I'm so glad. Well, that is a 1283 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,479 Speaker 1: great much better doing great. But I gotta be honest 1284 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 1: with you. Everything that he experienced I experienced at times too. 1285 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,800 Speaker 1: And that hit against from Sheldon Brown in that in 1286 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 1: that game, Bro, I felt like my heart stopped. I 1287 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,759 Speaker 1: felt like my soul left my body. Um. I felt 1288 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 1: like my head was detached from my body, like literally 1289 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: everything you could ever imagine in the worst car accident 1290 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 1: you've ever been in, but you lived through it. That's 1291 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,280 Speaker 1: how I felt in that moment. That was my welcome 1292 01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: to the NFL moment and hit and I will never 1293 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 1: forget it. Bro. You saw a human being fighting for 1294 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 1: his life on that field, Bro, I did see it. 1295 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,120 Speaker 1: I was on the sidelines. Yes, and so those that 1296 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,719 Speaker 1: don't know, Sheldon Brown hit Reggie Bush on a flat route. 1297 01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Drew, I just't check to it anyway. Great 1298 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,679 Speaker 1: job to even hold onto the ball. You held onto 1299 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 1: it too, right, Yeah yeah, but bro, so the best 1300 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: part is Redge gets destroyed. Right. Brown did a complete 1301 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 1: sprint right through Reggie's chest. Um, Redge being trying to 1302 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,600 Speaker 1: be as tough as he could. Bro, he tried to 1303 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 1: get up. I tried, My boy, tried to get up 1304 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 1: like twice, but he went right back down. Right. He's like, 1305 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,720 Speaker 1: it was great effort, dog like, and you you came 1306 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,000 Speaker 1: back in the game eventually, But Bro, you was hurt dog, 1307 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 1: and it looked really bad. And I can only imagine 1308 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: because it got like Reggie Bush. You gotta seen his highlights. 1309 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 1: He's never taking a hard hit his whole life. Probably 1310 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,720 Speaker 1: that's probably the first time you ever really gotten hit. 1311 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 1: That was That was my first real I mean I've 1312 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 1: had I've had some some moments where I banged helmets 1313 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 1: or something, you know, kind of but you saw that 1314 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 1: white everything goes clear. He starts seeing little stars. Yeah, 1315 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: but this one was like a grenade, like an explosion, 1316 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 1: like my my entire everybody disintegrated and then came back together. 1317 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,679 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, all in one moment, and 1318 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: I just I never forget like you said. Once I 1319 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 1: hit the ground, I jumped right back up because I 1320 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 1: just did not want to show that I was hurting. Yeah, 1321 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,320 Speaker 1: I was watching. It hadn't registered in my body yet 1322 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 1: that there was no air and I couldn't breathe because 1323 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 1: the wind was knocked out of me. So I dropped 1324 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 1: right but folded right back to the ground. Now I'm 1325 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 1: crawling right now, I'm going, but I'm crawling for air 1326 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 1: like I'm crawling trying. Is air over here? Is it 1327 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 1: over there? Like? Where's the air? Fam? I ain't got 1328 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 1: it right now? Hey, the best part was over on 1329 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 1: the sidelines, bro, because I told my acl so I 1330 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: wasn't playing, I wasn't dressed, and the rest of all 1331 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,600 Speaker 1: of us that is non dressed were all like, you know, 1332 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 1: uh like uh, we're all like smokey uh. In Craig's 1333 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 1: dad in Friday, get up, Craig, get up crib we 1334 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 1: all like, get up Rid, Get up Rid. He's just 1335 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,120 Speaker 1: like he wasn't getting up dog. It was we felt you. 1336 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 1: We felt You know what's funny is M Dante, even 1337 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 1: Dante star Wars of one of my really good friends, 1338 01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,360 Speaker 1: was on the other sideline. He played for the Eagles 1339 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,640 Speaker 1: at that time, and I was on their sideline when 1340 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: it happened. You were close and he was yelling at me, 1341 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 1: and I couldn't hear anything he was saying because it 1342 01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 1: was like, literally I was deaf and I was just 1343 01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,640 Speaker 1: trying to breathe. And afterwards, uh, you know, years later 1344 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 1: whatever he was like, man, I was like, I was 1345 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,400 Speaker 1: trying to get your team. I was like, Fred, you good? 1346 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,960 Speaker 1: Wre's you good? You good? I literally couldn't hear this dude, right, 1347 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: and he's standing right here next to me, and I 1348 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,680 Speaker 1: couldn't hear the word he was saying to him. You look, 1349 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,479 Speaker 1: it looked painful. I'm glad that was your well. I'm 1350 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: glad you shared that with I'm glad I survived it. 1351 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm not only write a book surviving the worst hit 1352 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:47,559 Speaker 1: in the NFL. All right, If you could pick one 1353 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 1: of these to start your team with a running back, 1354 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: that is, who would it be? We know your love 1355 01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 1: for Barry Sanders, Marshall Fault or Marcus Allen. You've all 1356 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: mentioned that all of these guys that one point in 1357 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 1: time were like a role model to you, so who 1358 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:08,320 Speaker 1: would be Oh my god, it's hard. They all had 1359 01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 1: different influences of my life. Marcus is from San Diego, 1360 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,760 Speaker 1: It's from my neighborhood, from my hometown. Um, you know, 1361 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 1: watching him and just seeing what he did and his accomplishments, 1362 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,800 Speaker 1: um was amazing for me. And and just it really 1363 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 1: gave me hope that I can go and do it. 1364 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,559 Speaker 1: That's why I really got the first sense of hope 1365 01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 1: that I could actually go and do this thing was 1366 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 1: knowing that there were guys from my neighborhood that already 1367 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:37,280 Speaker 1: did it. Marshall Falk. I not Marshall Falk. It was Marcus, Allen, 1368 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 1: Terrell Davis, Ricky Williams, and Rashaan Saloon rest in peace. Um, 1369 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 1: those are the four guys from my neighborhood that paved 1370 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,600 Speaker 1: the way for me and gave me hope that I 1371 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 1: can go do it. And then talk about Marshall. Marshall 1372 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:55,240 Speaker 1: really instilled in me watching him to to to step 1373 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,000 Speaker 1: outside of the running back position and go play receiver, 1374 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: cash the ball out of the back and be able 1375 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,599 Speaker 1: to go play in space. Um and to be able 1376 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 1: to just be an extra added weapon not only the 1377 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,519 Speaker 1: running game, but in the past game as well. UM. 1378 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 1: And then Barry was like my ultimate influence. Like I wanted, 1379 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,599 Speaker 1: I really wanted to be buried on that field. And 1380 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,040 Speaker 1: you know it's just I would. If I had to 1381 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 1: choose one of you forcing me, I'm gonna say Barry Man, 1382 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 1: because nobody was better than Barry. You're not wrong, You're 1383 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,640 Speaker 1: not wrong. That boy buried myself. Different dog. I was 1384 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,639 Speaker 1: watching some highlights at him the other day. His stopping 1385 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,880 Speaker 1: goal was and he got to think he doing this 1386 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,479 Speaker 1: on that old turf old turf, not that new turf 1387 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,120 Speaker 1: day we got. Now he doing that on carpet. I'm 1388 01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 1: surprised he didn't tear more guys knees up with like 1389 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,720 Speaker 1: all his moves. I'm not lying, all right, redg this 1390 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 1: is one that I had not thought of when I 1391 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,040 Speaker 1: knew that you were gonna come on, and then just 1392 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 1: knowing your uniqueness, who you are, were, all the places 1393 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,479 Speaker 1: you've been and all the things you've seen, give me, 1394 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 1: all right, have this picture in your mind. I want 1395 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 1: to know what's the best room that you've ever been 1396 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 1: in with like the who's who of like this person 1397 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,840 Speaker 1: is this? This is that I want to know, the 1398 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,559 Speaker 1: like the highlight room that Reggie Bush has been in 1399 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 1: where it's like, man, this is like big time high quality. 1400 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 1: You mean, just like like athletes or like entertainers or 1401 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 1: everything the whole gambit of it. I'm sure you've been 1402 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:31,080 Speaker 1: in the room with some some Yeah, I'm trying to 1403 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:35,280 Speaker 1: think of the different rooms though that I've been in. 1404 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,120 Speaker 1: You know I've been I've been able to I think, 1405 01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,880 Speaker 1: just meet some great people, Manum. You know, meet some 1406 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 1: amazing people in my time period, people that I've looked 1407 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:49,439 Speaker 1: up to, people that I've had a lot of respect for. Um. 1408 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 1: You know, I got a chance to meet Obama when 1409 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 1: he was not the president yet, when he was actually 1410 01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,559 Speaker 1: running to become the president. I went to one of 1411 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 1: his camp paying parties. He got a chance to meet him, 1412 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,280 Speaker 1: and you know then it seeing what he was able 1413 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: to do after that, going to be the president of 1414 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,720 Speaker 1: the United States was was awesome. Man. And you know 1415 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 1: that was one person you know that I think that 1416 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:16,000 Speaker 1: I look at UM as somebody that was just a 1417 01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 1: pleasure to meet. I actually used to live very close 1418 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 1: to also Jim Brown. Um Jim Brown was m you know, 1419 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: is someone who hold a lot of respect for um 1420 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, the time period he 1421 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,840 Speaker 1: played in, the things he had to deal with right 1422 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,760 Speaker 1: Like we were talking. We talk about some of our 1423 01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:37,000 Speaker 1: issues and things we deal with right now. But Jim Brown, man, 1424 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 1: he was really in the field. He was really in 1425 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: the streets really, you know, fighting for equality, you know, 1426 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 1: for African Americans, for athletes and for just you know, 1427 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,599 Speaker 1: people of color, and you know, just getting a chance, 1428 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,240 Speaker 1: I think, to meet him, you know, somebody like that 1429 01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 1: who was just again we talk about how football sometimes 1430 01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,320 Speaker 1: is bigger than the sport itself. That was one of 1431 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,880 Speaker 1: those moments, you know, um, you know, for Jim Brown, 1432 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 1: meeting him. And so this was crazy. So I had 1433 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,920 Speaker 1: two dogs, Um, I had a boxer and I had 1434 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 1: an American bulldog. And when I would leave, they would 1435 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 1: break out of my house and would get out and 1436 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,439 Speaker 1: they just be running around the streets where I lived 1437 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 1: at and Jim's wife literally like four different times found 1438 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,439 Speaker 1: my dogs and brought them back to my house. And 1439 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,120 Speaker 1: so it's so crazy, like Jim Brown's wife is like 1440 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 1: finding my dogs for me running around the streets, probably 1441 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 1: terrorizing neighborhood. This young this young whipper snapper, Reggie bus dog. 1442 01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:41,760 Speaker 1: They't keep his dogs take care of his dogs. Man 1443 01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:46,040 Speaker 1: terrorized our neighborhood over here, just bringing the property value down. 1444 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 1: Got great dogs. But but yeah, man, I've been I've 1445 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,559 Speaker 1: been blessed to meet some great people. And you know, 1446 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 1: I think those are the two people that jump out 1447 01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 1: to me. Is just people who are larger than life 1448 01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 1: in their time periods and just so much, you know, 1449 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,799 Speaker 1: for the change of our world and in the direction 1450 01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 1: of sports and all those things. Okay, well, all right, 1451 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,479 Speaker 1: here's my last question, and that is who is on 1452 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 1: your Mount Rushmore of people that influenced you and impacted 1453 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 1: your life on Mount Rush Moore, you get four My 1454 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,240 Speaker 1: mom for sure, from my mom in the category love 1455 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 1: love your mom. Man, just such an amazing woman, amazing person. 1456 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:31,679 Speaker 1: She's always worked so hard. Um. And and that's honestly 1457 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 1: where I get my work ethic from is from watching 1458 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,040 Speaker 1: her and seeing how hard she used to work and 1459 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 1: in the time she used to put in to support 1460 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,679 Speaker 1: you know, our family, Me and my brother. Um, who 1461 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:48,960 Speaker 1: your brother? People don't know your Reggie brothers like sixty three, no, no, no, no, 1462 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 1: sixty seven exactly. It's like it makes it makes zero sense, ladies, 1463 01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,880 Speaker 1: zero sense. That is what everybody know. Reggie, I got 1464 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,400 Speaker 1: to speed, he got the hight. Yeah, it's it's crazy. 1465 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,920 Speaker 1: It's the most ludicrous thing ever. All right, go ahead, 1466 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:10,400 Speaker 1: so crazy. The other person I would, I would go 1467 01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:15,639 Speaker 1: back to my little league coaches. Um. I had two coaches, uh, 1468 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 1: Coach Peely and coach Kiola. One was Samoan and one 1469 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,040 Speaker 1: was Hawaiian. And both of these dudes as crazy as hell. 1470 01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 1: And and when I was my first introduction to football, 1471 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,880 Speaker 1: when I first started playing, when I was nine years old, 1472 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 1: they were my coaches, and they were so strict and 1473 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 1: so not mean. But you know, it's it's how coaching. 1474 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,200 Speaker 1: How coaching is like you gotta be, you know, you 1475 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,559 Speaker 1: gotta be. You gotta expect discipline from from the kids. 1476 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 1: And so they commanded respect, they commanded discipline from us. 1477 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,040 Speaker 1: And it really set me off the right way. It 1478 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,800 Speaker 1: really set me up the right way because it gave 1479 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:54,720 Speaker 1: me such a good foundation from my first you know 1480 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,679 Speaker 1: coaches out that I was around of just how to work, 1481 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,600 Speaker 1: how to grind, how to go get it, um you know, 1482 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 1: how to be disciplined. Um, it really set me up 1483 01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,680 Speaker 1: for the rest of my career, you know. And I 1484 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 1: go back to them because again of what they instilled 1485 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 1: in me, but also you know, the opportunities that they 1486 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,280 Speaker 1: gave me. And I needed a I needed positive male 1487 01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,000 Speaker 1: influence in my life at that time period because I 1488 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,479 Speaker 1: didn't have my real dad in my life, um as 1489 01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 1: much as I wanted to, and um, these these coaches became, 1490 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, that positive male influence in my life that 1491 01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 1: I really needed and really just set my career up. 1492 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:37,559 Speaker 1: My other Mount Rushmore coaches, UM, I would probably or not, 1493 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 1: I don't even necessarily coaches, but there's a combination of guys. 1494 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, t mac Tom McNair, my running back coach 1495 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:48,320 Speaker 1: at USC, um Ken Norton Jr. You know, I would 1496 01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,719 Speaker 1: just say that coaching staff that we had at USC 1497 01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:55,800 Speaker 1: because they really demanded again so much just discipline and 1498 01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,640 Speaker 1: respect and competition and all these things that were just 1499 01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,080 Speaker 1: you know, but we were we were born into that 1500 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,680 Speaker 1: helped us, um, not not only on the field but 1501 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,240 Speaker 1: off the field, you know. So I think I learned 1502 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,760 Speaker 1: a lot of things from them that helped serve me 1503 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,720 Speaker 1: well off the field. Um that it's just helped me 1504 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,839 Speaker 1: to become the man I am today. And then lastly, 1505 01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:21,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say my wife, because when me and my 1506 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,920 Speaker 1: wife met, I was in a very dark place. I 1507 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,200 Speaker 1: was in a very dark time period. Um. I was 1508 01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,559 Speaker 1: still fighting through a lot of the demons and things 1509 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: from the from the Heisman stuff that happened in usc 1510 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 1: And I was actually ready to move. I was about 1511 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,280 Speaker 1: to move to Miami because I just remember I got 1512 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 1: traded to Miami. Ye, I was ready to move to 1513 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Miami all in sell my house in La. I'm gonna 1514 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,559 Speaker 1: just go out here. I'm gonna dive in fully. And 1515 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: I just I wanted. I was ready to get away 1516 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: from La and do something different. And then we met 1517 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:56,080 Speaker 1: m and it literally just changed my life because she 1518 01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,360 Speaker 1: once she was just there for me, and we had 1519 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:05,080 Speaker 1: our daughter and we developed such a close relationship. We 1520 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,920 Speaker 1: became best friends, and that was something that I really 1521 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 1: needed at that time period. I just I didn't have that, 1522 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,599 Speaker 1: and I didn't know I needed that until until until 1523 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 1: I got it. Man. So my wife has been such 1524 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,360 Speaker 1: a huge inspiration in my life. U we. I think 1525 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,599 Speaker 1: our best medicine has been just laughing every day. You know, 1526 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,240 Speaker 1: It's it's literally that simple. Um. I make her laugh, 1527 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,680 Speaker 1: she makes me laugh. We tell jokes to each other 1528 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,800 Speaker 1: all the time. And that relationship, more than anything, has 1529 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:37,519 Speaker 1: given me so much. Just stability at home, stability in 1530 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,519 Speaker 1: my foundation. Um, not only you know when I was playing, 1531 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:44,639 Speaker 1: but off the field as well, you know, because again 1532 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:49,479 Speaker 1: that's the thing when you play a sport like football. Um. Again, 1533 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,280 Speaker 1: the biggest thing always come back to is how do 1534 01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 1: you control this mind when you're constantly getting hit in 1535 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,800 Speaker 1: your head constantly? And that's a that's a tough thing 1536 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,919 Speaker 1: to do. Um. It's like a boxer, right, box wisconstant 1537 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:02,960 Speaker 1: getting hit in the head and we see some of 1538 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:07,519 Speaker 1: those long term effects that happens to them. U. And 1539 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,679 Speaker 1: it's no different than football. You know, we got helmets, 1540 01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,280 Speaker 1: but we're still getting smacked in the head. And so um, 1541 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,160 Speaker 1: just the stability that she brought me in this time 1542 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:17,400 Speaker 1: period that I really needed. Um, it's real, it really 1543 01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 1: helped me out a lot. Man. Yeah, shout out to 1544 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,760 Speaker 1: the lad again that you know that's what girl love 1545 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,439 Speaker 1: the league. She's an amazing cooker too, like you be 1546 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,760 Speaker 1: throwing it down all right. For those that don't know, 1547 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,160 Speaker 1: go look her up, follow her on Instagram follow my 1548 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,559 Speaker 1: boy Reggie too. Reggie Man, You're a blessing man. I 1549 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,400 Speaker 1: love you, appreciate you. We're gonna get up out of 1550 01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 1: here man, and thank you. I really really appreciate you. 1551 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,519 Speaker 1: Coming on man, peanup. Miss a great one. All right. 1552 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,439 Speaker 1: I want to thank all my listeners for tuning in. 1553 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,799 Speaker 1: I want to ask you all to continue to spread 1554 01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,920 Speaker 1: the word. Give us a rating of review and a 1555 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,800 Speaker 1: follow on Apple podcast or the iHeartRadio Apple or wherever 1556 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,200 Speaker 1: else you get your podcast. Thank you so much for 1557 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,240 Speaker 1: tuning in, and we will see you later. Peace,