WEBVTT - Are Men Mostly Looking For Sex In Chapter Two? 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to I Do Part two, and it's your real

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<v Speaker 1>life mentors.

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<v Speaker 2>People single just like you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's mister Wright and my partner Louise, and today we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do something fun. We're gonna take a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>hot topic questions and kind of see as men and

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<v Speaker 1>women where our answers differ and where they.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually might line up.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to keep everything fair, we have producer Heather

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a referee. She's gonna make sure

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<v Speaker 1>we stay on time and on topic and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that we are giving our best versions of these answers

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<v Speaker 1>with the most honesty direct us, even if we may

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<v Speaker 1>not agree.

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<v Speaker 3>This is perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy to jump in and I'll ask you guys

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<v Speaker 4>the questions and then you'll give your honest responses. So,

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<v Speaker 4>mister Wright, we'll kick it off with you who should

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<v Speaker 4>text first? After you meet someone new. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 4>put twenty seconds on the clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's going to be the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't want to steal Louise's line

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<v Speaker 1>from earlier, but you know, chivalry is not dead, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind.

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<v Speaker 5>Of stole my line. Mister Wright.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my twenty seconds. This is either throw a flag.

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<v Speaker 5>He's fiery.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the guy's responsibility to make that first

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<v Speaker 1>leap and to reach out perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>That was twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so, Louise, twenty seconds on the clock, you give

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<v Speaker 4>me your answer.

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<v Speaker 5>I one hundred percent feel that across the board, the

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<v Speaker 5>guy should absolutely text first. It's how I'm raising my sons.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know you know, obviously different generations have different perspectives,

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<v Speaker 5>but I strongly believe now that we're sharing our line,

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<v Speaker 5>mister Wright, that chivalry is not dead.

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<v Speaker 4>Perfect right within twenty seconds and you agree with the

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<v Speaker 4>dating game.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a quick follow up though, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to put time on this, but I want to

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<v Speaker 4>know though. Okay, so does that mean you know you

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<v Speaker 4>exchange numbers with a guy either he asks for yours.

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<v Speaker 4>A woman should never be the first one to initiate conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>That was so great or here's the picture I took

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<v Speaker 4>of us that was so fun meeting you out on

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<v Speaker 4>the golf course today. Like, no, you both made faces

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<v Speaker 4>just now. I know nobody can see this but me,

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<v Speaker 4>but you both kind of made faces when I said that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, listen, I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Say if there was something pertinent, If there was something

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<v Speaker 1>that happened that would make the woman text first or

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<v Speaker 1>reach out first, go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking if it's a stalement, you walk away,

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<v Speaker 1>you're both kind of grinning, you're both kind of happy

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<v Speaker 1>with what happened. I think if it's an even even,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the guy I should go first. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if the woman has something to say, or

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<v Speaker 1>something to respond, or something to spark it, I think

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<v Speaker 1>go for it.

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<v Speaker 5>I still feel whether you meet somebody in person at

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<v Speaker 5>a bar, or somebody puts you on a group text

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<v Speaker 5>because they're setting you up, I just really feel it

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<v Speaker 5>should be the guy who does kind of the first outreach.

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<v Speaker 5>It just shows what a gentleman he is, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think it shows you know, how he's going to treat

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<v Speaker 5>his lady, just the time and a place where you know,

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<v Speaker 5>kind of the female could be the one who takes charge.

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<v Speaker 5>Use your imagination, but I do feel the guy, especially

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<v Speaker 5>in the beginning, it's important to kind of create those roles.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, interesting, interesting take.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so our next question is how long till you

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<v Speaker 4>reach out after you've had that first date Again, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to go with a strong twenty seconds mister Wright,

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<v Speaker 4>take it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so this is not chapter one, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>the whole wait two days, wait three days, wait a week,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a month, whatever it is. I think that especially

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<v Speaker 1>if the date went well, I'm texting that night, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taxed on the way home, make sure you got home safe,

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<v Speaker 1>call me later, whatever it is. But we're not messing

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<v Speaker 1>around chapter two. We're giving up on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>polite waiting.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty seconds, mister Wright.

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<v Speaker 5>Good, I totally agree with you. You can tell we have

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<v Speaker 5>all been around dating long enough to know that when

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<v Speaker 5>you're on a date and it's a click and you

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<v Speaker 5>know you're going to go out again, and it's an

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<v Speaker 5>energy between two people, there is no waiting. It's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like you already know when you're going to see

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<v Speaker 5>that person while you're sitting on the date. They say

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<v Speaker 5>text me when you get home, or they're reaching out

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<v Speaker 5>and saying did you get home, And I've had guys

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<v Speaker 5>call me and we talk the entire way home.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>We're at twenty seconds, Louise, Okay, amazing. I love that

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<v Speaker 4>so far we're fairly aligned both as men and women

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<v Speaker 4>and single. So I like this Okay, Louise, let's have

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<v Speaker 4>you take this one first, biggest red flags you think

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<v Speaker 4>there are when it comes to men, and I also

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<v Speaker 4>want you to tell me the biggest red flags you

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<v Speaker 4>think they're are for women.

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<v Speaker 5>I have more than twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 4>Please, Yes, I was gonna say, we'll give you more

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<v Speaker 4>than twenty for this one. Let's say, mister Wright, Okay, say,

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<v Speaker 4>let's do thirty five seconds. So give me a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of red flags for men, couple of red flags for women,

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<v Speaker 4>and go.

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<v Speaker 5>Biggest red flag for men. Talks horribly about the mother

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<v Speaker 5>of his children. Number one. Number two talks horribly about

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<v Speaker 5>every girlfriend. Number three cheater. Number four is a strange

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<v Speaker 5>from his children. Number five is a strange from his family.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty seconds.

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<v Speaker 5>Number six has no friends from different chapters in his life.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me some red flags for women, Louise.

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<v Speaker 5>Red flags for women. A girl who gets so dressed

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<v Speaker 5>up on the first date that it's like she's going

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<v Speaker 5>to the prom.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and that's thirty five seconds.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, all right, So mister Wright, same question. I

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<v Speaker 4>want you to give me red flags for men and women.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm putting thirty five seconds on the clock when you're

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<v Speaker 4>ready go.

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<v Speaker 1>So red flags for men is if they don't introduce

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<v Speaker 1>you to their friends. Guys can be very very honest

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<v Speaker 1>around each other, and sometimes if you're not meeting the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's friends, big red flag, big red flag, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to go see the guy's house or where

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<v Speaker 1>he lives or kind of like what his situation is. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a little bit of a red flag for girls.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what I have to agree with Louise, and

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, if they're talking poorly about their ex if

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking poorly, you know, like just about their past

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<v Speaker 1>relationships and that's still hanging over them like a cloud.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not over it yet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's thirty five, thanks mister Wright.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, you're getting in there a lot of information.

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<v Speaker 3>I like these. Okay, Louise, this one's for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we'll go to mister Wright best places to meet

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<v Speaker 4>people if you're over thirty five and under sixty five.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll do let's to thirty seconds on the clock

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<v Speaker 4>for this one and go.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's really hard. There is really no red onion,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a reference for our generation back in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 5>I would say that it is so rare that a

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<v Speaker 5>guy will come up to a table anymore of girls

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<v Speaker 5>or even send over drinks in Los Angeles. It happens

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<v Speaker 5>more in New York and Chicago. I think if you

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<v Speaker 5>really want to go meet somebody, the only place to

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<v Speaker 5>go in Los Angeles is Balltaire, maybe a couple places

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<v Speaker 5>in Malibu. But I think it's actually really hard to

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<v Speaker 5>meet people in person.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that was thirty seconds, mister Wright.

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<v Speaker 4>Same question, Where are the best people to meet in

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<v Speaker 4>real life? Under over thirty five, under sixty five and go?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's usually going to be something you'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>bars or restaurants or whatever else, and that can always

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<v Speaker 1>sort of happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, you know, charity events.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, like community events where people are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a line and you are going to find

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<v Speaker 1>people that kind of think similarly as you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think those are great places to meet.

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<v Speaker 5>Charity events that you're right, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I think that you know, there's also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the gymnasium, you know, or the or the golf

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<v Speaker 1>course or places like that where people being active. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what you're into going and do and being somewhere doing

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<v Speaker 1>something that you like to do. You're going to probably

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<v Speaker 1>find somebody that's similarly aligned.

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<v Speaker 5>Like a running club actually, or exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Any it's yoga class, you know, plates, whatever those things are.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something that turns you on as an individual. You

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully find somebody else that's equally energized by the same activity.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's actually a fun place to beat people is at

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<v Speaker 5>car rallies. That's actually a fun place to talk to people.

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<v Speaker 5>I've met a lot of people there at like classic

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<v Speaker 5>car shows or like or like in Malibu, they have

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<v Speaker 5>a whole car crawl or different things. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>fun on a Sunday, just like casual. You go down,

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<v Speaker 5>you grab a coffee and there's like people with their

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<v Speaker 5>cars and just everyone billing about.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, cool, cool, all right, mister Wright, take this next

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<v Speaker 4>one first. Do you have to tell people when you're

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<v Speaker 4>dating that you're dating other people? I am going to

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<v Speaker 4>give you twenty seconds for this one and go all right, Heather.

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<v Speaker 1>I think for sure you need to be upfront and

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<v Speaker 1>honest about what your situation is.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're dating around.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you owe it to that person if it

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<v Speaker 1>comes up to tell them. I don't think you have

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<v Speaker 1>to come right out and say you're one of four

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<v Speaker 1>people that I'm dating.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that if it comes up.

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<v Speaker 1>You say yes, you know I am dating, and then

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<v Speaker 1>similarly as if it gets serious, you can let them know. Also, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be exclusive. And that I think is

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<v Speaker 1>that honesty will help launch hopefully a good relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>not tarnish it. If someone finds out accidentally that you

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<v Speaker 1>aren't dating multiple people.

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<v Speaker 4>Smart, okay, that's time. Uh, louis same question.

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<v Speaker 5>I think in the beginning, isn't it understood that people

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<v Speaker 5>are dating other people until they kind of find their unicorn?

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<v Speaker 5>And then I feel that kind of organically I found

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<v Speaker 5>that it morphs into more of an exclusive situation suation,

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<v Speaker 5>And I also think for me, I'm not sleeping with

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<v Speaker 5>somebody unless we're exclusive.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let me ask you this because you bring up

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<v Speaker 4>a good point, and I think it's important to talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>You said, isn't it understood that we're seeing other people? Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I think in the modern day dating world, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to know from you too, are you going to get

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<v Speaker 4>hurt more likely if you're not dating multiple people in

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<v Speaker 4>your chapter two and only dating one person at a time.

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<v Speaker 5>I think chapter two is an opportunity to try a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of different things on. I think that no matter

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<v Speaker 5>what age you are, getting hurt is a reality. And

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<v Speaker 5>to quote my dad, better to have loved a little

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<v Speaker 5>than never to have loved at all. And it's just

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<v Speaker 5>part of the game, right, And that's how you know

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<v Speaker 5>something feels really good because you've experienced the bad.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So I'm going to different and disagree a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, like you know, this just made my personality.

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<v Speaker 2>But I want to find one person.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, you might have to date multiple people to

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<v Speaker 1>get there, but for me, like the outcome is to

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<v Speaker 1>try and find the person. And that's what I'm working

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<v Speaker 1>through right now, is to find the person. But it

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<v Speaker 1>might you know, it might take that you go on

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<v Speaker 1>you know, multiple dates whatever. But I think I can't

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<v Speaker 1>date multiple people at the same time. That's just not

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be able to go out with somebody on

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<v Speaker 1>Monday and then somebody else on Wednesday and somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday. I just don't think I would be my

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<v Speaker 1>authentic self. I think I would be worried about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like what I'm saying, how I'm saying it. Am I

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<v Speaker 1>coming up across too strong? Am I misleading anybody? So

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you want to keep I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to keep options open. I think that really I would

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<v Speaker 1>only be able to date one person at a time.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree with you. But let's say some a friend

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<v Speaker 5>of yours was going to call you up and they

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<v Speaker 5>were going to say, mister Wright, we have a couple

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<v Speaker 5>of girls who want to introduce you to or different

0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.600
<v Speaker 5>people want to introduce you people. So you have a date,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, a drink on a Monday, a coffee on

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<v Speaker 5>a Wednesday. Like, you don't know if you're going to

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<v Speaker 5>like Monday, So why wouldn't you at least try Monday

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<v Speaker 5>and then try Wednesday and if you like one of them,

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<v Speaker 5>then you go out a second time. But like the first,

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<v Speaker 5>the second time like we're just getting to know the person.

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<v Speaker 5>So and we kind of know if somebody is special

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<v Speaker 5>and there's a real connection. We've probably been on enough

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<v Speaker 5>dates each to know. And yes, we all want to

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<v Speaker 5>find our unicorn Dred.

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<v Speaker 4>Mister Wright just said something interesting. He said, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>dating to me. So you mean when you're seeing somebody

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<v Speaker 4>on a more intimate level is when you consider it dating,

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<v Speaker 4>mister Wright?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think I think going to a

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<v Speaker 1>coffee or having a drink with somebody. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's dating, you know, if it's if it's the first

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<v Speaker 1>time or even the second time, but if you're making

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<v Speaker 1>concerted efforts, we're going to be seeing each other. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see each other regularly. I couldn't just

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<v Speaker 1>me personally. I couldn't have multiple people that are regular

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<v Speaker 1>dates that are.

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<v Speaker 2>Going you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm meaning, you know, I couldn't go on vacation with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody then go, you know, have dinner with somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that once you start leaning in, yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>know I would, I would tip over if.

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<v Speaker 5>I totally agree. I misunderstood. I thought you meant in

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<v Speaker 5>the beginning of when you're just first meeting people, But

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<v Speaker 5>when you start to really like somebody and you've gone

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<v Speaker 5>out of them two, three, four, five times, then for me,

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<v Speaker 5>that falls under the category that's kind of authentically morphing

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<v Speaker 5>into an exclusive situation. So for me, I just kind

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<v Speaker 5>of get the sense that we're both in it and

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<v Speaker 5>we want to see where it goes. So therefore it's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of lights out on, you know, dating other people.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go back to something you said, Louise,

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<v Speaker 4>because you said you don't sleep with somebody until you're exclusive,

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<v Speaker 4>which everybody has.

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<v Speaker 3>Their own preferences when it comes to that.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're saying, though roughly it's we're going out four

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<v Speaker 4>or five times, you know, and you've had the conversation

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<v Speaker 4>with them ahead of time, saying I'm not seeing anybody else.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to know that you're not seeing anybody else

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<v Speaker 4>before we move to.

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<v Speaker 3>This next chapter.

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<v Speaker 4>There's never any Let's try it out, let's see where

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<v Speaker 4>this is going, and then we talk about exclusivity after.

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<v Speaker 5>I am not sleeping with somebody unless it's exclusive, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>And I mean to be a total pain in the ass.

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<v Speaker 5>I make somebody and request somebody to get an STD test,

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<v Speaker 5>which I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 3>To do, too great.

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<v Speaker 5>And I haven't ever had one person say no to me,

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<v Speaker 5>not once, and if they did, that would be a

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<v Speaker 5>red flag for me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you could have used that a red flat earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>Luise the STD test.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that probably in this modern age that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all adults, and I think that you know, asking

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. I think you also talk about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for guys like have they had of a sectomy? Like

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<v Speaker 1>have they you know, like like what's their outlook on

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<v Speaker 1>children like their children.

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<v Speaker 5>Depends what age you're dating, mister, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It totally does.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean some people, it doesn't matter if you have

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<v Speaker 5>a sect to me, let's let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>Into one to that. What what do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 2>If they're younger older.

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<v Speaker 5>If the girl is younger, you know, right, then she

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<v Speaker 5>can get pregnant, right, But girls that are a bit older,

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<v Speaker 5>that's just not even a reality, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, but that's still I mean, I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>conversations just become more mature. I suppose in this chapter

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<v Speaker 1>two where you are asking kind of more serious questions

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know, STDs and would you be willing to

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<v Speaker 2>take a test? And you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think really kind of like life planning and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of all those things I think can come up

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<v Speaker 1>a lot earlier than they do in your chapter one,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is just a sign of maturity.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a sign.

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<v Speaker 1>Of being a little bit older and more kind of

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<v Speaker 1>set in your life. And I think those are important

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<v Speaker 1>questions to have before you know, relationships get further along.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let me ask you, does it come up sooner

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<v Speaker 4>in chapter two? Not necessarily always because of maturity because

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<v Speaker 4>maybe in their marriage they weren't getting any and they

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<v Speaker 4>want to get off to the races pretty quickly. In

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<v Speaker 4>this next thing, they're chomping at the bit to get

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<v Speaker 4>some action. We've heard that before from other people. They've said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, some from a man's perspective, they have said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, some men are really all about having sex

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<v Speaker 4>as soon as they get divorced because they weren't getting

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<v Speaker 4>any in their marriage. Have either of you either experienced

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<v Speaker 4>that or heard that from friends in chapter two?

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<v Speaker 5>I think for me my experiences is the people that

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<v Speaker 5>I did are typically my age, are a bit older,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're really looking for a companion. And I think,

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<v Speaker 5>really what the conversation is not about the sex part.

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<v Speaker 5>It's more about, you know, are you able to, once

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<v Speaker 5>you've been set in your ways, merge a life with

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<v Speaker 5>somebody else, and what does that look like? Does the

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<v Speaker 5>person live long distance? You know, what's the work schedule

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<v Speaker 5>for both people, what's the commitment with taking care of

0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.720
<v Speaker 5>elderly parents. So it's really more about a time situation,

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<v Speaker 5>like I was dating somebody out of state and we

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<v Speaker 5>had a harder time figuring out the schedule ultimately, And

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<v Speaker 5>it's not about the sex, because the sex comes if

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<v Speaker 5>you're attracted to somebody and you know it can happen

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<v Speaker 5>right away, it can happen a few dates down the line.

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<v Speaker 5>It's more about can our lives merge? And as we

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<v Speaker 5>get older, we realize everybody has emotional wounds. And what

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<v Speaker 5>it comes down to also is does your baggage line

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<v Speaker 5>up with my baggage? And you see that pretty quickly

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<v Speaker 5>on as you're getting to know somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm going to have to disagree a little bit here.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's just you know, from being from the from

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<v Speaker 1>the guy side, I think there's definitely a stronger attraction

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<v Speaker 1>and looking for sex and for you know, some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of passion and all the things that probably weren't there

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<v Speaker 1>in the relationship previously, especially as it was dying and

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<v Speaker 1>as it was heading toward divorce. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a big need at least initially for

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<v Speaker 1>a connection romantically.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, any of course it does, you have to feel attracted,

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<v Speaker 5>but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think that guys probably are driven more by that.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I can't say from a woman's perspective, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine that guys are probably even more driven by

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<v Speaker 1>that because you know, that's it's just it's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's unfortunately sort of the guy's nature, and and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that there is probably more propensity to be

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<v Speaker 1>drawn to somebody that is going to be willing to

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<v Speaker 1>match that same sort of sexual energy.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, mister Wright is talking maybe a little bit about

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<v Speaker 4>why men in chapter two ten to go for younger women.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that why because there's there's less less things on

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<v Speaker 4>their plate, they you know, have maybe less inhibitions. Is

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<v Speaker 4>I've also heard that men tend to go for younger

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<v Speaker 4>women in chapter two because men identify themselves at that

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<v Speaker 4>at that when they are going through the divorce, as

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<v Speaker 4>the age that they were when they were entering into

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<v Speaker 4>the marriage. So that's actually meant to where they still

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<v Speaker 4>feel that they're at, which is why they tend to

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<v Speaker 4>go back and revert to a younger age when they're

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<v Speaker 4>dating in chapter two. And not asking you specifically, mister Wright,

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<v Speaker 4>if that's your experience, but have you seen or Louise,

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<v Speaker 4>have you seen men in chapter two kind of do that?

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<v Speaker 5>So I've seen a lot of my friend's ex husbands

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<v Speaker 5>date the younger girl like the cliche, and it's fun

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<v Speaker 5>in the beginning, and they look hot and they're easy

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<v Speaker 5>and all they want is a bag and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a couple nice restaurants, and then all of a sudden

0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.200
<v Speaker 5>they want to have a kid, and then they want

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<v Speaker 5>to be the missus and they have to reverse the phasectomy.

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<v Speaker 5>There's all the battle with the family, and inevitably what

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<v Speaker 5>happens is is they break up, and then the guy

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<v Speaker 5>just moves on to another young girl, and then they

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<v Speaker 5>get tired, and then as they get older, they want

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<v Speaker 5>to have somebody who is their passion partner, their best friend,

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<v Speaker 5>their park bench, and they want to go through that

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<v Speaker 5>next chapter together. But I see about eighty percent, eighty

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<v Speaker 5>five percent of the time, most men do want to

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<v Speaker 5>have fun and kind of pick up the pieces of

0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:02.840
<v Speaker 5>what they didn't have for a long time, and they

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:04.719
<v Speaker 5>do that young route, and then all of a sudden

0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 5>they just don't have enough shared experiences and the kids

0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 5>don't really want to sit at the table people who

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 5>are the same age interesting. I'm lucky because my ex

0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.200
<v Speaker 5>husband dates, you know, his longtime relationship is age appropriate,

0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.719
<v Speaker 5>and she's amazing, and we're very close, and you know,

0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.800
<v Speaker 5>we're one big modern family. So I got lucky that

0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:24.960
<v Speaker 5>that's the route that he went, but that's not the

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<v Speaker 5>case for most of my friends.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad in chapter two got with my now stepmom,

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<v Speaker 4>who is nine and a half years younger than him.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's different than twenty years younger.

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<v Speaker 3>It's different than twenty years younger.

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<v Speaker 4>But she was in her twenties when they got together,

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<v Speaker 4>so there was definitely.

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<v Speaker 5>Not a shared experience.

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<v Speaker 4>She was a single parent. But I mean there was

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<v Speaker 4>a deb there. I still to this day feel like

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.000
<v Speaker 4>there's a definite gap in certain things.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all really fascinating.

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<v Speaker 5>I love where sit on the young girl situation. If

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<v Speaker 5>you've seen it with his friends, I'm not asking if

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<v Speaker 5>he's doing it, more curious his opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think that there is probably just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a guy's desire to go and reclaim a little

0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.760
<v Speaker 1>bit of what he feels like he's lost. And because

0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:13.760
<v Speaker 1>because going into divorce is one of the biggest gut

0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:17.200
<v Speaker 1>punches for a guy, especially if it wasn't the choice

0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of the guy, and it, I mean, it just tears

0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:20.920
<v Speaker 1>away your confidence.

0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:23.480
<v Speaker 2>It tears away you know, you're sort of at.

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<v Speaker 1>Your your virility, your manhood, and so I think there's

0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:29.919
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of wanting to go and show the world.

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<v Speaker 2>That you still got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that you that you can still you know

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you can you can pull the cute girl or.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether that means you end up with them forever

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<v Speaker 1>or not, time will tell. But I think that there

0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.880
<v Speaker 1>is a propensity for guys, at least initially to look

0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 1>for younger girls. And I think that there is this

0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of disconnect in a certain way where younger girls,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not talking girls and they're you know, twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two. I'm talking about younger than guys, whether it's

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 1>ten years or fifteen years, that look for something in

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:03.440
<v Speaker 1>older guys, whether stability, whether it's financial security, whether it's experience,

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<v Speaker 1>or or something in there. I can't quite figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what it is maturity that they're not seeing in guys

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<v Speaker 1>at their own age, and especially if they're frustrated with

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<v Speaker 1>dating guys in their own sort of their own age bracket.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, but I think ultimately to Luise's point, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you have kids as a guy, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>find somebody that compliments your modern family, whatever that looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to find somebody that will be able to

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<v Speaker 1>fit in there and not cause an additional rift within

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<v Speaker 1>the kids within the ex wife, within your world, because

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen it too often.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you have the.

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<v Speaker 1>Really old guy with a really young girl, and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of shakes their head and knows exactly what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>There is room in the middle for age difference that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense for both the woman and the man.

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<v Speaker 4>Mister Wright will go for you for this one to

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<v Speaker 4>start off. When dating, does the person meet the kids

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<v Speaker 4>and does that change if your kids are out of

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<v Speaker 4>the house.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to give you forty seconds for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I do have big opinions on this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that you have to be incredibly sensitive

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<v Speaker 1>to your kids. And so I don't think you can

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<v Speaker 1>say make a blanket statement about when in the right

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<v Speaker 1>time it is to meet or not meet, or introduce

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And age has something to do with it,

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<v Speaker 1>Maturity has something to do with it. Also, it has

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<v Speaker 1>to do a little bit with what happened to break

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<v Speaker 1>up the marriage to begin with. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should lie to your kids. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you should should mislead them. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my personal philosophy is just to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>If they ask questions, respond honestly. But in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>introducing them, I don't think you should introduce them to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody unless you think that they are worthy and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be sticking around because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a turner style. That's forty seconds are using the

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<v Speaker 1>metric system and what really quick and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they went really fast.

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<v Speaker 5>These are actually, I think important questions and answers.

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<v Speaker 4>It's good, it's good what you're saying, though I really

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<v Speaker 4>I want to bounce the question though, to Louise to

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<v Speaker 4>jump in and give your thoughts and opinions on what

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<v Speaker 4>mister Wright is saying.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think the most important thing is if you're

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<v Speaker 5>dating somebody, I think mister Riot is correct. It has

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<v Speaker 5>to do with the situation of how you met that person.

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<v Speaker 5>For example, if there was overlap and that's the reason

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<v Speaker 5>for the divorce, which is how I grew up, that

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<v Speaker 5>is a situation where you have to be very very

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<v Speaker 5>very very careful and you're probably not going to have

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<v Speaker 5>joint tables for a long time. If ever, I also

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<v Speaker 5>think it depends on the age when you got your

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<v Speaker 5>children divorce and I hate to say it, but also

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<v Speaker 5>for a mother you know, my kids were very young,

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<v Speaker 5>they were third and fifth grade, and there was no

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<v Speaker 5>world where at the time that they were living in

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<v Speaker 5>my house, there was going to be a guy's sleeping

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<v Speaker 5>in my bed. Never was going to do it. They've

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<v Speaker 5>met one person, it was only recently, and to be

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<v Speaker 5>honest with you, they did not like him. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>now really kind of you know, changed my thing. But

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<v Speaker 5>when they went to college, they both sat me down

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<v Speaker 5>separately and they said, Mom, you were an amazing mom.

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<v Speaker 5>You put us first. We want you to go live

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<v Speaker 5>your life now. We will love whoever you love. And

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:24.480
<v Speaker 5>we saw that you put us first, but we are

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<v Speaker 5>ready for you to have your chapter two. And that

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<v Speaker 5>blessing for me was so important, and that acknowledgment of

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<v Speaker 5>how I handled it because I have watched friends and

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<v Speaker 5>it's been a revolving door of guys in their bed,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think it's screws kids up. I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>a really bad teaching moment for kids to see that,

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<v Speaker 5>especially for a mother. So I think, you know, to

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<v Speaker 5>mister Wright's point, it's situation by situation, but there's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of factors.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that was way more than forty sevens

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I just feel like you're taking your playing

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<v Speaker 1>favorites her other.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I was throwing it back to you.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say, mister Wright, what do you

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<v Speaker 4>think about when does it change things when the kids

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<v Speaker 4>are out of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think once the kids are out of

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<v Speaker 1>the house, they're adults, you know, unless they you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think once the kids are out of

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<v Speaker 1>the house, all bets are off. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you're you're allowed to to kind of chase

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<v Speaker 1>your happiness and be less concerned about the kids because

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<v Speaker 1>they're off living their own.

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<v Speaker 5>Lives and they want to focus on their own lives.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't want to worry about us.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>My question though, is is if they're out of the house,

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<v Speaker 4>do you introduce them sooner than you would if they

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<v Speaker 4>lived in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're out of the house, I think you just

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think there's sooner or later really matters.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if it's if it works out, it's if

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<v Speaker 1>it's convenient than yes. But I don't think you start

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<v Speaker 1>bringing them around any sooner than you would otherwise. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, when the kids are younger,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to Luise's point, you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you want to have, you know, a new guy or

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<v Speaker 1>a new girl, you know, walking down the steps, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to breakfast in the morning wearing you know, wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>robe and slippers. So I think you canna be really,

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<v Speaker 1>really sick they're.

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<v Speaker 5>Wearing a robe and slippers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's pretty small one.

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<v Speaker 4>My mom and my stepdad separated for a period of

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<v Speaker 4>time before getting back together, and my mom was immediately

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<v Speaker 4>dating somebody who used to do the knock on the

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<v Speaker 4>front door with a box of donuts thing and say, oh,

0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 4>I just happened to be in the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 5>Kids are smarter than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I wasn't a kid when he was doing it,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was extremely obnoxious.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say that.

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<v Speaker 4>I would literally be like, dude, dude, I heard you

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<v Speaker 4>this morning, like sneak out. I know you didn't go

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<v Speaker 4>anywhere but around the corner to get donuts and come back.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, people listening in chapter two, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's actually really annoying and not cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's okay to I mean to try

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<v Speaker 1>and be sensitive to the kids by being I don't

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.840
<v Speaker 1>saying sneaky, but you can keep it to yourself. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm confronted by one of my kids on something,

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell them. I will answer them honestly. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to overshare, you know, I'm not going to

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 1>treat them with the luck my friend. I'm not going

0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 1>to gossip with them about my love life. But if

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 1>they asked me a question, are you you know, are

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:08.639
<v Speaker 1>you seeing somebody?

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Are you whatever? Yes, I'm going to answer them honestly.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I'm going to ask you both an honest question

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 4>because I can't imagine even dating right now, in this space,

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.239
<v Speaker 4>at this time in my life. Just with what I

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<v Speaker 4>hear about the dating landscape, why do people in chapter

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<v Speaker 4>two even want to date?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Why? I mean, it just sounds you've been so Heather,

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<v Speaker 3>but it sounds.

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<v Speaker 4>Even more complicated if I had kids and I had

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<v Speaker 4>like an ex that I had to deal with for

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 4>the rest of my life, Like why does anybody even

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 4>want to date in chapter two?

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, I'm so sad to hear you say that,

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<v Speaker 5>because I know you've been heard. But to be honest

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 5>with you, there's no greater feeling than loving somebody and

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<v Speaker 5>being loved and to share a life with somebody, and

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<v Speaker 5>especially as you've finished the chapter of your kids getting older,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I don't want to be alone. I want

0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 5>to have a partner, Somebody to go get a coffee with,

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 5>Somebody go on a walk with by the beach, Somebody

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 5>to sit next to you while I'm reading a book,

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 5>Somebody to go to a fun night in Vegas and

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 5>do something crazy. Just it's It's the greatest thing in

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 5>the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Love.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that in this chapter two, especially if

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you find somebody that has a similar experience, whether you

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>both have kids, you both have you know, sort of

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>like breakup situations that were that were somewhat similar. You

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>have this thing in common that is very personal and

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>very real, and and you both can learn from your mistakes.

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>And I think that there's an amazing way to build

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<v Speaker 1>even stronger bond than you had in your chapter one

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 1>because you've both been hurt or you both have had

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.520
<v Speaker 1>this similar experience and you're sensitive to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Chapter one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, you know, I learned so much about

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 1>myself as a husband, as a father, as a partner,

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>all these things, and I think I am a much better

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>version of myself because of the things that I learned

0:30:03.880 --> 0:30:06.720
<v Speaker 1>along the way even though it hurt, and so hopefully

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>you know in this chapter two. Yeah, it's complicated, don't

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 1>get me wrong. It's complicated. Meeting people's complicated works, complicated

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 1>kids are complicated. But when you do find that right

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 1>puzzle piece, it does I think feel even that much better.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you're going to you learn a lot also

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 5>in divorce too, about yourself. I mean, it's an interesting

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 5>time as you're learning to do things on your own

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 5>and make decisions and just kind of understand who you

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 5>are as we get older and what your needs are.

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 5>And it's been almost more of a growing experience for

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 5>me in the time that I've been divorced than at

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 5>the time that I was married in terms of getting

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 5>to know myself, because I think when you get married

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 5>in the beginning, you're looking for, you know, a partner

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 5>and somebody to be a father and build a life

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 5>together and all of that, and it's just it's an

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 5>interesting growing time post divorce.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this has been so much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Louise, thank you for showing up, Heather, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>keeping us honest and on time, and we look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to continuing this conversation with more questions from listeners as

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<v Speaker 1>we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Forward, and if you're going through a divorce, finding Chapter

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<v Speaker 5>two hard to navigate and need some advice, we are

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