1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senter, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: you and Senator It is a very big week for 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: putting out books that are full of crap. 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 3: It truly is stunning. So Jake Tapper from CNN has 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 3: a book along with Alex Thompson from Axios. The book 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: is entitled Original Sin. President Biden's Decline, its cover up, 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: and his disastrous choice to run again. And when you 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: talk about full of crap, I really don't think you're 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: being fair to crap like this is This is like 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: a book Arsonist discovers a fire he started. This is 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: like a book Tony Montana, the drug dealer says cocaine 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: is bad for you. Like, yes, Jake, there was a 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: cover up, an absolute, complete, total cover up. It was knowing, 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: it was deliberate, and you did it. You, Jake Tapper 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: and CNNA, we're twenty four to seven, engage in the 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: cover up. You knew about his mental decline, and you 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: refuse to tell anybody. 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: It's shocking just how bad it was. 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And this is 69 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: the guy that literally helped cover up the cognitive decline 70 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: and dismissed anyone who brought it up on a show. 71 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: So look, the book, as I understand it was originally 72 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: written by Alex Thompson. Alex Thompson is not nearly as 73 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: well known as Jake Tapper, yep, And he had a 74 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: contract with the book publishing company. He wrote the book, 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: and then the book publishing company decided to cancel it 76 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: and said, no, we're not going to publish this book 77 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: after all. In other words, the book publishing company engaged 78 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: in yet another cover up because they didn't want anyone 79 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: to know. And so Thompson sought out Tapper and convinced Tapper, hey, 80 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: join with me. You're a big famous guy. They'll publish 81 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: it if your name's on it. And Tapper said yes. 82 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: And I gotta say so, there are lots. 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: OF's never got a crisis waste, right. 84 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: That's looking particularly a chance to make some good money. 85 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 3: I mean, hey, what's journalism all about if not monetizing 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: your own hypocrisy and your own cover up. Look, Tapper, 87 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 3: some of the facts that are coming out in this book. 88 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, Tapper and 89 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: Thompson report Biden's physical deterioration was so severe that his 90 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: advisers discussed the possibility he would need to use a 91 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: wheelchair if he won reelection. That's that's how bad it was. 92 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: And yet every time anyone tried to bring up those facts, 93 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,119 Speaker 3: Jake Tapper and the rest of the corporate media covered 94 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: it up. But don't take my word for it. Listen 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: to Jake Tapper in his own words. This is a 96 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: collection of Tapper over the years. 97 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: And this goes back to twenty twenty. 98 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: The very beginning is him talking to one of the 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: Trump family members, Laura Trump, and he actually like ends 100 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: the interview like, you can't even say this on my show. 101 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 3: So this this montage starts in twenty twenty, then goes 102 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: to twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, and then twenty four. 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 4: All throughout. 104 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: Listen, Tapper for five years covered this up aggressively. 105 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 4: Give a listen, how do. 106 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: You think it makes little kids with stutters feel when 107 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 5: they see you make a comment. 108 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: Like that, it's very clearly a cognitive decline. 109 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 6: That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable. 110 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: You are no view of age, can't It's so amazing. 111 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 5: It's so amazing to me that trying to figure out 112 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 5: an answer cognitive Declineative Biden embraces his stutter talking about it, 113 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 5: while Trump, mock said, exaggerates it. 114 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: Belittle zip. 115 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 7: He's sharp physically, I mean mentally, yeah, I think the 116 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 7: question is physically right right or so right right? And 117 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 7: the guy who's his chief opponent is only three or 118 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 7: four years younger than him, maybe, I mean, you have 119 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 7: questioned President Biden's age, mental fit, and fitness ability to lead. 120 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 7: Of those supporting Biden, you said, quote, shame on all 121 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 7: of you pretending everything is okay. You're leading us him 122 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 7: into a disaster. Do you worry that you damaged him 123 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 7: at all? I don't doubt that. 124 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 5: You got hugs and handshakes behind closed doors today and 125 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 5: maybe even publicly, some of them because they like you personally. 126 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 5: But I've heard a lot of really nasty stuff about 127 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 5: you from your Democratic college. 128 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean, just like, what is he thinking? 129 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 5: Exercise in narcissism. I mean false claims to the Wall 130 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 5: Street Journal about President Biden's mental fitness and acuity. He's 131 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: eighty one and his memory. You know, it doesn't seem great. 132 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 5: It's not horrible, but I don't understand the outrage. Quote 133 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 5: behind closed doors, Biden's shows signs of slipping quote. The 134 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 5: Wall Street Journal is owned by NewsCorp, which is run 135 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 5: by the Murdocks. Beyond the headline, there is some critical 136 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 5: nuance here. The article is mostly based on observations of Republicans, 137 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 5: with former Speaker Kevin McCarthy the only one going on 138 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 5: the record. They do note in the article that most 139 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 5: of the criticism comes from Republicans. Have you heard any 140 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: concerns from anyone who has met with President Biden about 141 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 5: seeming a little slower? Now the Russians are trying to 142 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 5: do to make us in the public not trust the 143 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 5: our election integrity. Joe Biden has dimension all this stuff. 144 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: Let's just stop there and give the title of the 145 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: book again, Senator, so people understand what they just heard 146 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: and now what he's writing, Because if you just look 147 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: at the title of the book, you understand the debauchery 148 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: of journalistic scumbaggery. 149 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: The title of the book is Original Sin President Biden's decline, 150 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 3: its cover up, and his disastrous choice to run again. 151 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: And understand Jake Tapper when he was saying that he 152 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: was lying, he knew he was lying. Everyone else on 153 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: CNN knew he was lying. They knew they were lying. 154 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: Everyone on MSNBC knew they were lying. Everyone on ABCNBCCBS 155 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: knew they were lying. Everyone at the New York Times 156 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: knew they were lying. Everyone at the Washington Post knew 157 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: they were lying. Everyone knew this look. One of the 158 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: facts that his book. He says at a fundraiser in 159 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 3: Jude of twenty twenty four, Joe Biden didn't recognize George Clooney, 160 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: who he's known for decades. He had told Eny by 161 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: the way, he had to be introduced like Ocean's eleven. 162 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 3: What is there a casino you're robbing? I don't understand, 163 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: like Biden had no idea. This is the same fundraiser 164 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: you remember where Barack Obama had to lead Biden off 165 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: the stage because he was just confused and staring out 166 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: in space, and Tapper and the rest of them just 167 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: lied to us and said aoka, no problems here. 168 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: You go back center to what you just said a 169 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 2: moment ago, and it's a great point here, and it's 170 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: one about the fact that they were at this fundraiser. 171 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: And the president didn't know, like George Clooney. 172 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: Wise, do you have Barack Obama having to walk him 173 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: off stage like that was when everyone in his realm 174 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: that they were even trying. 175 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: To, I think in protecting from They all knew then, 176 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: like this is a disaster, and yet they still went 177 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: full speed ahead with it. 178 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right. You know, the Babylon B had 179 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: a great headline that summed up this book. So the 180 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: Babylon B's headline was, quote, Jake Tapper uncovers startling evidence 181 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: that Biden's decline was covered up by Jake Tapper. And 182 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: that's exactly what his book is. And listen, listen to 183 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: this week, Chuck Schumer, because it wasn't just Jake Tapper 184 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: that was lying. Every Democrat was lying. Every Democrat Senator, 185 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: every Democrat governor, every Democrat house member. They all knew 186 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: Biden was seriously declining mentally, and they all covered it up. 187 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: Schumer was one of the most shameless because he gave 188 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: his own personal guarantee about how quick Biden was. And 189 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: listen this week when when finally the media confronts him 190 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 3: about his lies, Listen to what Chuck Schumer says, Uh, you. 191 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: Said in June of last year, in my meeting the 192 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: President Biden, I found the command president guilded influence to made. 193 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 4: Father sent key priorities. 194 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 6: But in that same mom violent here that he not 195 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 6: even recognized George Pulley. 196 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 4: In a fundraiser. 197 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: Were you being straight with the American palmer for look, 198 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: would just look forward? I mean, it's the best answer 199 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: I've ever heard from a politician. Center. 200 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: We're just looking forward. 201 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Hey, we gotta go. We're just looking forward. And I'm 202 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: walking off stage like we're just looking forward. 203 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: I mean, so, Governor, tell me about the dead body 204 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 3: that we found in your house. We're just looking or 205 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: tell me about the. 206 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: The cocaine the White House. We're just looking for just moving. 207 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: We're just moving forward, guys, Schumer. 208 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: Not not the tiniest bit of accountability, not the oh yeah, 209 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: we're not just we're moving forward. 210 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: To forward, moving the Democrats. 211 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: You know, it reminded me back if you remember when 212 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: Mitt Romney ran for president against Barack Obama. Yes, And 213 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: Harry Reid went and lied and claimed that Mitt Romney 214 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: hadn't paid income taxes, and he just flat out lied, 215 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: and he did it on the Senate floor. 216 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: You know why I did it on the Senate. 217 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: Floor because you can't argue back with him. 218 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: Right, Well, that's true. But there's another reason he did 219 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 3: it on the Senate floor because the Constitution has a 220 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: provision called the Speech and Debate Clause that that that 221 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: immunizes members of Congress for speech and bait on the 222 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: Senate floor. He did it so no one could sue him. 223 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: So Mitt Romney wouldn't sue him for defamation because he 224 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: was lying. 225 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: And he didn't sit on TV. Interesting and after. 226 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: The election they asked Harry Reid about wait, you were lying, 227 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: you had no evidence. And Harry Reid, who was then 228 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: the Democrat Senate majority leader, he said, well, Romney didn't win, 229 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: did he Like it's the same thing as Chuck Schumer. 230 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: We're just looking forward, all right. 231 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 3: Listen to now Biden's National security advisor, Jake Sullivan, who 232 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 3: worked with Biden every day in the White House and 233 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 3: so new to an absolute certainty that that Biden was 234 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: severely mentally declining, but listen to what Jake Sullivan said. 235 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 8: What happened in that debate was a shock to me. 236 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 8: I think was a shock to everybody. And I've made 237 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 8: that point before. Just finally, do you think in retrospect, 238 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 8: given everything that's happened and everything we've talked about today, 239 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 8: it was a mistake for President Biden to try to 240 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 8: run again. One of the things about being national security 241 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 8: advisor is that you're mercifully insulated from politics and political 242 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 8: decision making. I was insulated from it to the point 243 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 8: where while I was National Security Advisor, uh, my spouse 244 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 8: was running for Congress, and I had strict rules about 245 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 8: what I could even do to support my spouse, let 246 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 8: alone be involved in political decision making, political calls in 247 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 8: the White House. So I have not weighed in on 248 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 8: those issues and would not weigh in on those issues. 249 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: Let's let's just be clear. I've known national security advisors. 250 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: That is the biggest one of crap I've ever heard. 251 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: I'm just going to put out something really funny. There's 252 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 3: something about Democrat men that makes them weenies. Yeah, so 253 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: he says my spouse was running for Congress, So he 254 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: is actually married to a woman, yep, Ben, Can you 255 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 3: imagine any circumstances which I refer to your wife as 256 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 3: my spouse? I mean, isn't like I don't know a 257 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: man who refers to his wife as my. 258 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: Spouse who's running for congress, My wife who is running 259 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: for congress like that like the moldun. 260 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: Human beings would communicate, but but not not democrat after. 261 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: Yours would be my smoking hot wife who's running for cocker. 262 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: But that's the way. 263 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: Do I know you well or do I know you 264 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: will any any chance to praise praise your wife. 265 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 4: Not your spouse. 266 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 3: Yes, my smoking hot wife is exactly exactly the way 267 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: to put it. 268 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: I set you up for success there. 269 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: I just want to know if there's anything you're gonna 270 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: you should clip from this pod and send to your wife. 271 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: Be like, go to this minute mark in the pod. Honey, 272 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: you made the pod. 273 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: Actually look as you know, listen to the podcast. So 274 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: that'll be she'll she'll be listening. 275 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: This is a miss test. 276 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: I one day I said, think about my wife in 277 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: my show, and I wanted to see if she heard it, 278 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: and like her friends text are like, Ben said thing 279 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: about you, and she's like, what did you say about 280 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: me day. 281 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: I was like, well, if you listen to the show, 282 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: you would have known. 283 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: It was like, A great, you know that was a mistake. 284 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 4: Don't do that. I told you so, you only I'm 285 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 4: just saying. 286 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I want to ask you a on 287 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: a very serious note here you look at the hypocrisy. 288 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: But the most disturbing thing for me coming out of 289 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: this book and how the Axius reporting is that the 290 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: cabinet members worried about his capacity, specifically in a crisis. Now, 291 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: there's been interesting reporting, and I'm just want to put 292 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: it in perspective. He has the bad debate. There was 293 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: real conversations, we were told and there's reporting on this 294 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: about the possibility of invoking the twenty fifth. Not because 295 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: they were afraid, I go back to the you know, 296 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: worried about the capacity and a crisis. 297 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: They just didn't want to lose the election. 298 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: It was all politics. 299 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: They were perfectly fine having someone with dementia who was 300 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: not capable of decision making as president as commander in chief. 301 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: So this Jake Tapper comedy book includes the revelation that 302 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: multiple cabinet members were worried that he could not be 303 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: relied on at a time of crisis because his mental 304 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: diminution was so great. One cabinet secretary said Biden's top 305 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: aids quote shielded him in every meeting from October two, 306 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. On quote the cabinet was kept at 307 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 3: bay another quote for months. We didn't have access to him. 308 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: There was clearly a deliberate strategy by the White House 309 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: to have a meet with as few people as necessary. 310 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: Another cabinet secretary says that one rare meeting during the time, 311 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: that cabinet secretary was quote shocked by how the president 312 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: was acting. He was seemed disoriented and out of it, 313 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: his mouth agape. They knew they were worried. And you 314 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: know what, if our enemies attacked us, this was the 315 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: commander in chief that the Democrats and CNN and the 316 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: lying corporate media was telling us could protect us. And look, 317 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: I don't know that i'd trust him to operate the 318 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: remote control on the television set. 319 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: By the way, are they going to put this under 320 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: fiction or nonfiction? That's what I want to know. When 321 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: you go to the store, right if you go look. 322 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: For well Sadly, I think they'll put it under nonfiction, 323 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: which they should, because it is true that Joe Biden's 324 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: has had a massive mental deterioration. What they should put 325 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: under fiction is what Jake says on TV every day. 326 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: That's the fiction part. The irony is this may be 327 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: the one true thing Tapper has has written or said 328 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: in the light. 329 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: Hold on the guy from Access Right. It's true. 330 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: It was someone else who wrote it, name on it. 331 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, But but by accident he told the truth, except 332 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: for the fact that he didn't admit that he's been 333 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: lying to the country the entire time Biden was in 334 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: the White House. 335 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: So let's go back to the cabinet members, because this 336 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: is the big question. I was doing Fox and I 337 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: Waters World. Killy mckinneie was filling in form White House 338 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 2: pres Singcretary and she was talking about then when when 339 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: some of this was starting to break and I and 340 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: I said, look, the headlines are amazing, But I said, 341 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: the real question that I think we should all be asking, 342 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: and I want your take on this is if all 343 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: this is true, and I have no reason believe it's not, 344 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: who the hell was the president of the United States 345 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: of America? Who was running the country? Was it thirty 346 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: people that were elected by no one. I don't think 347 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: it was one person. I think there's a very good 348 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: chance that the FBI was the president of the FBI 349 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: and the DD was the president. 350 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: I mean, who the hell was running the country? 351 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: I don't think so. 352 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Actually, all right, that's why I'm asking you. 353 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 3: I've been asked that question probably a thousand times, and 354 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to give you the most terrifying answer you 355 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: could imagine. I don't know, Okay, I genuinely don't know. 356 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: I think it was Barack Obama. I think it was 357 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 3: Barack Obama. Barack Obama, certainly his minions, is the only 358 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: president in modern times who at the end of his 359 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: presidency stayed in DC, bought a big house in Calorama 360 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: every night, their cars in the driveway, and all of 361 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: his little apparatic minions are in the White House. And 362 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 3: I think it was a combination. 363 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: When Joe Biden's White House was filled with staffers. I 364 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: want you to understand this. This is well reported, but 365 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: this is really important right now for this story. It 366 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: was well reported on that Biden and his team were 367 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 2: the one that placed everyone in the positions of power 368 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: in the Biden I mean Obama six. Obama and his 369 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: team placed everyone basically in a position of powers in 370 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: the Biden administration. 371 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: So look, in four years of the Biden presidency, I'm 372 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: in the Senate the whole time. How many times do 373 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 3: you think I spoke with Joe Biden while he was president? 374 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: I would say one to three zero, And I was 375 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: saying one of three because I thought they were protecting him. 376 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: So you're saying, as a senator, and that's not normal. 377 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: People need to understand that. 378 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 4: Not a single time, and that is bizarre. 379 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: How many times with Obama? 380 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 9: Free? 381 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 4: Lots of times. 382 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean I spoke. 383 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: I spoke with Obama regularly. 384 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: With Trump, I speak with him often every week, sometimes 385 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: multiple times a week. It is part of the job 386 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 3: of being a senator to work with the president, to 387 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: talk with the president, even the president of the opposing party. 388 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: Were there ever big lads with Obama? For examle, I'm 389 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: trying to really paint a picture here of how insane 390 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: it is. 391 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: You didn't talk to him for four years. 392 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 4: It's bizarre. 393 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 3: And the thing to understand is we all know Joe Biden. 394 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: He was in the Senate for four years. He was 395 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: a man of the Senate when I was first elected 396 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: the Senate in twenty twelve, Joe Biden swore me in. 397 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: In fact, I'll tell you without the cognitive decline, and 398 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: he was fine. Now when vice president thirteen years ago, 399 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: he did not have cognitive cline. And in fact, it 400 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: was funny. So my girls, you know, my daughters, they're 401 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: fourteen and seventeen. When I was sworn in, they were 402 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 3: two and four. They were little bitty and my two 403 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: year old Catherine, Biden leaned over to pick her up 404 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 3: and she screamed. She screamed really loudly, and Biden said, 405 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 3: it's okay, it's okay. It's a Democrat, but it's okay. 406 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: And that was actually quite funny. 407 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 4: I laughed. 408 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: And you don't have time. Magazine does little quotes of 409 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: like the quotes of the week. Yeah, that next week, 410 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: the quote of the week was, it's okay, it's okay. 411 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: It's a Democrat, but it's okay. Vice President Joe Biden 412 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 3: to Catherine Cruz, age two. And I've said, you know, 413 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: when Catherine is married, hopefully a long long time from now, 414 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: I intend to read that quote at her wedding and say, 415 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: even at age two, Catherine knew if a Democrat tries 416 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: to pick you up. 417 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 4: Scream loudly. 418 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: I like that one. 419 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 4: So where do we go from And by the way, when. 420 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: I say I didn't speak with him for four years, 421 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 3: that was true of virtually every Republican senator. 422 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: So we would say, did that be Democrat senators are 423 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: talking to it? They middle more. 424 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 4: The Democrats talked to him early on because. 425 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: They were isolating him from what the book saying from 426 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: like everyone. 427 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 3: So they talked to him a little more. When when 428 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 3: the Senates and session, Republican senators have lunch together every Tuesday, Wednesday, 429 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: and Thursday, so we talk at lunch. It's they're working lunches, 430 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: they're very productive. We would sit at lunch and talk 431 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: about how weird it was that that none of us 432 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: had spoken to Biden, had been to the White House 433 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 3: to see him, and we all knew him. They were 434 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: clearly hiding him. I actually remember one of my colleagues, 435 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 3: John Kennedy, a good friend senator from Louisiana. He was 436 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: one of the few who had seen Biden one time, 437 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: and he actually told us all the story. We're sitting 438 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: at the table and he said, look, he had passed 439 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: a bill. He said it was a fairly minor bill, 440 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: but it was a bipartisan bill that had passed, and 441 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: and Biden did a bill signing, and so they brought 442 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 3: him under and they brought him over because they wanted 443 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: to say, look how bipartisan were So so Kennedy was 444 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: in the oval and Biden was there, and and Kennedy 445 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: started striking up a conversation with Biden and John knew 446 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: him like we all did, and and Biden asked, and so, John, 447 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 3: you ever seen the cabinet room? And John Kennedy being 448 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 3: John Kennedy, he said, I lied and said no, and 449 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 3: he said, come on, let's go. 450 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he can know where that was going. You 451 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: say down to that question. 452 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so he takes him in there and he said. 453 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 3: Biden begins telling stories from like forty or fifty years ago, 454 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: and Kennedy said, the White House staff comes in freaking out, 455 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: Miss President, you go, you gotta go, and Biden yells 456 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: at him, shut up, I'm telling stories, and he said. 457 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: He went on for like thirty forty minutes, and it 458 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: was like listening to your grandfather who's telling the same stories. Ever, 459 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 3: the same stories like fifty years ago. They can remember, 460 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: but but don't ask him what's happening today? And and 461 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: that was and he was literally at my lunch table. 462 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 3: I remember he was the only one of us who 463 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 3: had seen Biden since he's been president, and and and 464 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 3: that was his one experience with him. 465 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: Will there be anything now that the mees accept this 466 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: as fact, they're reporting on his fact. Cabinet members were 467 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: worried about his capacity in a crisis, That's what they've said. 468 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: Is there going to be any overside slash investigation? Should 469 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 2: there be from Congress? And I know that's a weird 470 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: question because there's somebody like, look, we want let's move on, 471 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: But like I do, actually, as an American citizen, want 472 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: to know who was running the United States of America 473 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: that was elected by no one. I want to know 474 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: who was calling the shots it was elected by no one, 475 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: because whether I win or lose an election, my vote 476 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: should not be canceled out by some sort of dictator 477 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: or tyrant within an administration that no one knows who's 478 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: running a government. 479 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: And by the way, there's a related question to that Ben, 480 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: which is we've seen the stories that apparently a substantial 481 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: number of official things that Biden signed were signed by 482 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: the autopen. 483 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: So was he even making the decision to sign them right? 484 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: And he didn't even seem to know like some of 485 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: the pardons. And I actually think you'll have this litigated. 486 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: I don't not aware of any courts that's ever decided 487 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 3: is is a pardon Does a pardon have to actually 488 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: be signed by the president. So look, every elected official 489 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: has an autopen. I have an autopan, and so for 490 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 3: things like constituent correspondence, if you write into your senator, 491 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 3: you'll get a response back, and we try to respond 492 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: substantively in the autop pen will sign it. And I 493 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: get millions of those letters, so I couldn't physically sign 494 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: them all. 495 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 2: All I'm thinking about right now is how where that 496 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: autopen isn't how much fun I could happen keep going. 497 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: But look, it's fine for if something like correspondence, a 498 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: birthday wish, But the question is for something that has 499 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: legal force of law. And I actually want to know 500 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: do they use the autopen to sign any legislation, because 501 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: it's not clear to me legislation that the president didn't 502 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: sign has legal force. The autopen is not the commander 503 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: in chief and the chief judges. 504 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: For example, if he did an autopen, which means I'm 505 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: truly convinced that he didn't know what was going on. 506 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: He didn't know who's appointing. He probably didn't know who's pardoning. 507 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: And if that happening, the partiers are where it'll be litigated, Okay, 508 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: and that will Why is that so different, because. 509 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: Look, it's it's interesting. Like a pardon under the Constitution, 510 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: all you have to have is a document from the 511 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: president that said, you know, I pardoned Ben Ferguson and 512 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 3: and and suddenly actually only if it's a federal offense, 513 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 3: so he can't. 514 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, the p I take, the abece I take. 515 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 3: But it literally there's no pomp and circumstance. It doesn't 516 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: have to have gold leaf on the paper, it doesn't 517 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 3: have to be an official it's just a piece of 518 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: paper with a signature, with those words and his signature, 519 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 3: that is legally a pardon. But if you don't actually 520 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: have a signature. Listen, I've been in the oval dozens 521 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: of times, probably more when when President Trump is signing 522 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: things and pulls out he actually so have you seen 523 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: the president's. 524 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I like I've got one of the big 525 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: sharpieeress like most presidents use like a sharpie to have 526 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: a signing pen. 527 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: But but President Trump's it's a marker that's probably what 528 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 3: ten inches long, and maybe. 529 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: It's gold, like gold is signature, and like an inch. 530 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 4: In diameter like it's it is massive. 531 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 3: But he signs one after the other, after the other 532 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 3: after the other, because that's what gives it legal force 533 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 3: of law. If you have a president that's mentally incompetent 534 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: and you have staffers running thing, it makes you wonder 535 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: doctor Fauci's pardon jine it. 536 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, And if it's the auto pen, 537 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: which I'm sure they can figure that out. 538 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 3: It will be It's an interesting question, you know. I'll 539 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 3: say a few more of these quotes from the cabinet members. 540 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 3: The cabinet members in this book described said. One said quote, 541 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: the staff did him wrong. If you were with him 542 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: every day and you knew this was going to be 543 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: a problem, why didn't you go to him and say something. 544 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: Another said quote, access dropped off considerably in twenty twenty four, 545 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: and I didn't interact with him as much. A third said, quote, Yes, 546 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: the president is making the decisions, but if the inner 547 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 3: circle is shaping them in such a way, is it 548 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: really a decision? And here was another cabinet secretary. I 549 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 3: don't think he has dementia. But the thing is, he's 550 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: an old man. The president can give you four to 551 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: six good hours a day. When he got tired, sloppy 552 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: isn't the right word, but his guard was down. That 553 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 3: would be the commander in chief of the United States. 554 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: Now that it's over, now that everybody knows the cognitive decline, 555 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: now that the books are being written, they're telling you 556 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 2: they may have only gotten four hours a day out 557 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: of the President of United Atsmagra. That is maybe one 558 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: of the most shocking statements I've ever heard about any 559 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: present yet. 560 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: Look, it's he was not mentally capable to do the job. 561 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: They knew it, and they lied about it. And by 562 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 3: the way, Jake Tapper's whole premise that gosh, little old 563 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: me Jake was deceived. They just didn't tell me the truth. 564 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 3: I just didn't know. Well, Jake, if you listened to Verdict, 565 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: we were telling you the facts, and we were telling 566 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: you the facts early on. Here, I want you to 567 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 3: go back to January of twenty twenty four. I want 568 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: you to listen to a segment of Enemy in the 569 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: podcast back in January of twenty four talking about Biden's deterioration. 570 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: Give a listen, You and I and kind of anyone 571 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 3: with eyes and common sense have been observing for a 572 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: long time that Joe Biden's cognitive decline is massive. 573 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 4: But it's easy for. 574 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: Some observers to dismiss that and say, you know, these 575 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: guys are biased, they're partisans, they don't like Biden, So 576 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: what they're saying is not true. In this instance, the 577 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 3: people speaking are the Biden Department of Justice and not 578 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: any department of justice. This is a Department of Justice 579 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 3: that has proven itself the most politicized and partisan department 580 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 3: of justice in history. And they have argued so, for example, 581 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 3: I'm going to read you a paragraph from the report. 582 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: In his interview with our office, mister Biden's memory was worse. 583 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting 584 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: on the first day of the interview when his term ended, 585 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: quote if it was twenty thirteen, when did I stop 586 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: being vice president? And forgetting on the second day of 587 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: the interview when his term began quote in two thousand 588 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 3: and nine, am I still vice president? He did not 589 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: remember even within several years when his son bo died 590 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: and his memory appeared hazy. When describing the Afghanistan debate 591 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: that was once so important to him, among other things, 592 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 3: he mistakenly said he quote had a real difference of 593 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 3: opinion with General Carl Aitkinberry, when in fact Aitkinberry was 594 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 3: an ally whom mister Biden cited approvingly in his thanksgiving 595 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: memo to President Obama. All of that was authored by 596 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 3: the Biden Department of Justice. And when they are describing 597 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: the sitting president as a well meaning, elderly man with 598 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 3: a poor memory, the natural question for anyone to say is, 599 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 3: holy crap. If he's not competent to stand trial, why 600 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: is he the commander in chief with the authority to 601 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 3: send our sons and daughters into harm's way? Why does 602 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: he have access to the nuclear codes? Understand the description 603 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: here They say, you couldn't charge him with a crime 604 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: because he's not aware of enough to have the requisite 605 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: mental intent. And yet Joe Biden tonight, if he's so desired, 606 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 3: could literally exterminate humanity from the face of the planet 607 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: as commander in chief if he gave the order launch 608 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: the nuclear weapons now, unless the military refused to obey 609 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: the commander in chief, Joe Biden could exterminate every life 610 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: on this planet. And if he's not mentally competent to 611 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: stand trial, that is terrifying. So that was a year 612 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: and a half ago, a year and a half ago 613 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: on this podcast. And understand the entire basis at Tapper's books, 614 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: he couldn't possibly know about known about this mental decline. 615 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: The Department of Justice in this would be the Biden 616 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 3: Department of Justice went into court. So the Robert Hurr Report, 617 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: Remember they did not prosecute Biden. 618 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: And where was that I won? Do you remember the 619 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: timeframe on that. 620 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: That was early twenty four. Yeah, we covered it a lot, 621 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: and that with them interviewing him in twenty three. So 622 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: in twenty three when they were interviewing Joe Biden, they 623 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: then in twenty four told America he's so bad off 624 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: we can't even charge him with anything. 625 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: So they concluded if they charged him, he would be 626 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: found not competent to be convicted. 627 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 4: That is a stunning. 628 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 3: Look, there's a standard. There are people that are not 629 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: competent to be tried. If you have dementia, if you're 630 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: like mentally ill, that you're not able. The legal standard 631 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 3: is you have to form what's called mensraa, which is intent. 632 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: And they said, well, he's so old and senile, we 633 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: can't charge him. So that's why they said, oh, yeah, 634 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: he clearly violated the law. He committed a felony. Remember 635 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: he kept classified materials everywhere, including his garage next to 636 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: his antique car. 637 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: Not a joke, that's real. 638 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: And they said he was guilty of that, but they 639 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: couldn't charge him because he was incompetent to stand trial. 640 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 3: I want you to list in twenty twenty three to 641 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: me laying out his mental decline and MSNBC Morning Joe 642 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 3: making fun of me for it. 643 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: Gives us like one of their big intros. May fourth, 644 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. 645 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: Twenty eleven, when Republicans in the House stood strong on 646 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 3: the debt ceiling again because Democrats had had majority of 647 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: the Congress for two years, had passed trillions in irresponsible spending, 648 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: and Republicans stood strong and said, we will not raise 649 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: the debt ceiling without serious fiscal reform. What happened then 650 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: Vice President Joe Biden came and negotiated a deal, a 651 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: deal called the Budget Control Act. Vice President Biden sat 652 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: down with House Republicans and reached a meaningful compromise. President 653 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 3: Joe Biden needs to do the same thing. And I'll say, sadly, 654 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: the reason he hasn't so far, I believe, is because 655 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: his mental faculties are too diminished right now. 656 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 6: You know, I know, hold on, hold on, hold on 657 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 6: what he has such a point. 658 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 10: His mental faculties are so diminished that he passed more bipartisans, 659 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 10: signed more bipartisan legislation. 660 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 6: But he was doing it last year. 661 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 11: Any president since LBJ My god, if he were his 662 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 11: coaching as he had been in twenty eleven, but he 663 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 11: could have been like you could have gone back to FDR. 664 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 9: What else he did without without apparently realizing what he 665 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 9: was doing. He like, held NATO together to fight Russian 666 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 9: aggression in Ukraine, and and. 667 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 6: My god, I know he only increased eight hundred mile 668 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 6: border in NATO. 669 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 4: With Russia exactly. 670 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: But I guess he you know, he thought he was 671 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: when happened. 672 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 10: You know, it reminds me of Ronald Reagan when he 673 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 10: was speaking at Harvard, a Eureka College grad and he's 674 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 10: sitting there talking to the graund and he's making fun 675 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 10: of his education. At the end, he goes, You know, 676 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 10: sometimes I just sit here with a presidential steal in 677 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 10: front of him, and I wonder what I could have 678 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 10: been with a good. 679 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: Go back and read, go back and read Reagan, He says, 680 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: By golly, I mean, I love this. And by the way, 681 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: we do know who was doing it now it was 682 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: either a and auto pen or a bunch of old staffers. 683 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: For many of you listening to us around the country 684 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 2: the radio, if it's your first time, so nice to 685 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: have you guys with us. 686 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: Don't forget. 687 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: All the audio that you heard in the show will 688 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: be in the podcast, So share the podcast wherever you are, 689 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 2: and we do this show as a podcast three days 690 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: a week as well. 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