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Speaker 1: Levels to This is an iHeart women's sports production in

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: I'm Sorrika Foster Brasby. What's good y'all?

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Speaker 2: I'm your girl, Cheryl Swoops.

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Speaker 3: And this is the Levels to this podcast. This is

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Speaker 3: the show where we share that there are levels to

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Speaker 3: the ship that women go through. And we have got

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Speaker 3: such a fun show lined up for you today because

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Speaker 3: today we're gonna talk some basketball.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot going on in the women's bathkeb.

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Speaker 1: Boss Space, Spicy dude it ooh like, have a peal

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Speaker 1: pepper spicy Okay, off the chain out here in these streets.

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Speaker 3: But first, before we get into that, Cheryl, how are you.

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Speaker 3: What's going on in your week?

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Speaker 4: Hm?

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Speaker 2: I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I guess came down with some little crazy book, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not claiming it, so I'm gonna just know that's right.

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Speaker 1: I got to go to Vegas, so I went to

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Speaker 1: the game when they played uh who.

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Speaker 2: Did they play? Dallas? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Asia was out still with her concussion. That was my

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Speaker 1: first in person game this season. I haven't been to

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Speaker 1: a lot of games this season, but it was really

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Speaker 1: fun for me because I got to hang out with so.

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Speaker 2: You know, I have three brothers. I have two older

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Speaker 2: and one younger, and my.

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Speaker 1: Youngest brother Brandon, whom you do know, and my oldest

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Speaker 1: brother James met us in Vegas. So we had a

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Speaker 1: little small siblings gathering.

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Speaker 2: So it was a lot. I love that. I love that.

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Speaker 2: And Dave Brandon just have a birthday recently.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate it because he's gonna make sure everybody

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Speaker 1: knows it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody.

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Speaker 3: It was all over my ig. I said, damn Brandon.

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Speaker 1: I mean, bro, we know, okay, but time out, time out,

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Speaker 1: because I don't know if this part will be a

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Speaker 2: But let me just tell y'all my sister. She is

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Speaker 2: looking fuine fine you hear me. She got she got

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Speaker 2: the red hair and the hair.

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Speaker 1: Is bzanging, the face is beat to pieces.

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Speaker 2: She got all the upper body out like I mean, listen, listen,

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Speaker 2: she is looking. It's a it. Well.

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Speaker 3: First of all, thank you for the time, welcome, thank you.

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Speaker 3: It is a brand new day for me. I am

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Speaker 3: just trying to embrace I love, I love.

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Speaker 2: Red hair, Like there's a thing about red hair for me.

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody can't rock red hair. Everybody can't rock red,

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Speaker 2: but ship out of it. Sorry, I love it. I

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Speaker 2: love it. This is gonna be my color for the summer.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna see how long I can find enough red wigs.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say, let me, let me say,

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Speaker 1: let me let me re a way different color.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but you don't know. And I'll be honest with you, Cheryl.

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Speaker 3: I was a little nervous about it, not because I

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Speaker 3: didn't think I could wear red, but because it you know,

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Speaker 2: And I'm a I'm a journalist, I'm an analyst on TV,

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Speaker 2: I'm a sideline reporter. I don't want nobody be.

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Speaker 3: In line girl to here looking crazy as here. I

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Speaker 3: would tell you I'm professional.

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Speaker 2: With this red.

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Speaker 3: And then I was like, no, I'm gonna just I'm

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Speaker 2: It is me so so first of all, and this

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Speaker 2: is just a message to everybody out there. Girl, do

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Speaker 1: But you know this, if if you look trashy in

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Speaker 2: Sis, that's you know that, ain't it? You would because

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Speaker 2: you're my real friend, for real, for us. But yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I am very happy. I am very happy.

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Speaker 3: I also got to go shopping. So when we started

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Speaker 3: this year, literally this year, twenty twenty five, I told

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Speaker 2: All that that you did, I was serious.

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Speaker 3: And then I had a little bit of a moment

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Speaker 2: I wasn't serious. It happened.

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Speaker 3: I got serious in March, and I am just very

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Speaker 3: happy to share that I have lost twenty five pounds on.

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Speaker 2: And I am so proud of you.

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Speaker 3: I am so proud of me as you see me,

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Speaker 2: So I get my grave for my cookies and cake.

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Speaker 2: That's beautiful. Twenty five. So I gotta go shopping because

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Speaker 3: Just told people you were four. I talked, I talked

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Speaker 3: Greg I'm finna be all sad.

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Speaker 4: To be outside outside. I'm about to be about to

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be hot, but not that kind of hot.

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Speaker 2: Let me find out. No, no, no, no, I'm finna

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Speaker 3: I know marriage, but I'm about to be I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: You know, I was about to say the hair, the

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody, But it depends on what type of hair

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm talking in the game. I'm talking about in

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Speaker 3: It is a bit much, and so we are going

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Speaker 3: to definitely tap into today's show about everything. We got

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Speaker 3: So I always participate in well, I won't say always,

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Speaker 3: it has been really difficult trying to get like the

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Speaker 3: to be playing Minnesota in the Commissioner's Cup, So Minnesota's

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Speaker 2: No other team has ever done just yet.

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Speaker 3: Like I just kind of feel like, if I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at this exact moment. So what impressed you or what

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Speaker 3: has impressed you most about any of those teams Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: New York, Atlanta, and Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Minnesota's doing anything we didn't expect, right.

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Speaker 1: I Mean, they made it to the finals last year,

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Speaker 1: were there last year and they fell short. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they felt like they played their best basketball. But

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Speaker 1: I also think they're playing with a chip on their shoulder.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you remember Cheryl Reeve after the finals

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Speaker 1: last year, felt like, you know, they were kind of cheated,

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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of the players are. All

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Speaker 2: the players came.

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Speaker 1: Back into this season on a mission and they were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna make sure that doesn't happen again. And I

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Speaker 1: will say this now because this is just how I

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Speaker 1: feel and what I see the Fisa Collier without question,

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Speaker 2: Without question, She's MVP right now. Yeah, Fee is on

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Speaker 2: a whole nother level.

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Speaker 1: And then when I go to New York, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Sabrina's having an incredible season. I think Stewie's

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Speaker 2: But Tee, I'll tell you, I feel like adding Tosh

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Speaker 1: Just put New York in a position to possibly win

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Speaker 1: back to back championships.

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Speaker 2: Granted, Minnesota's gonna have something to.

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Speaker 1: Say about that, but I always felt like New York

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Speaker 2: You know, they didn't have a dog on that team.

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Speaker 1: Kayla Thornton in a way was that player, but Kayla

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Speaker 1: She just does everything that they need. She's that defensive

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Speaker 2: Yeah, New York's been very impressive.

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Speaker 1: And then when I think about Atlanta, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Glad to see Atlanta playing the way they're playing right now.

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Speaker 1: I know their record's eight and four, but I've always

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Speaker 1: tried to figure out why are they not winning because

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Speaker 1: they've had the talent. Like Atlanta, they've had the talent.

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Speaker 1: Aleisha Gray is on a whole other level. She's playing

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Speaker 1: on a whole nother level.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: What they've been able to do in a short period

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Speaker 1: I think this might be the year that Atlanta makes

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Speaker 2: I don't think I shouldn't say they don't, but I

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Speaker 1: But I do think they're going to make some noise.

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Speaker 1: And then the last team I'll mention because you brought

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Speaker 1: little surprised at how well Phoenix has been playing without

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Speaker 1: But when I really look at their team, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: who else do they have with K being out and

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Speaker 1: they're sitting eight and for playing really well, Kyd.

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Speaker 2: Just you know, came back.

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Speaker 1: I just I think I think Phoenix they've been playing really,

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Speaker 1: really well without her, So I'm excited to see what

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Speaker 1: they'll be able to do, what with K coming back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I echo a lot of your sentiments stick with

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Speaker 3: They're one of the original team, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: Because she played alongside Chirl swoops like out like you

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Speaker 2: That beaten Yeah they did. Oh it was bad. It

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Speaker 1: The Valkyries could be that team that, you know, how

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Speaker 3: The Valkyries could be that spoiler for what they absolutely could.

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Speaker 3: So you've seen recently a lot of hardship contracts or

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Speaker 1: Mentioned that they've probably lost more players in there the

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Speaker 1: Those are two players that you initially had in training camp, right,

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Speaker 1: I've always been a big Veronica Burton fan when she

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Speaker 1: I think is finally getting the opportunity to play the

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Speaker 2: So five and six ain't the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: That it feels weird to pinpoint why they're struggling LA.

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Speaker 3: I look at very similarly where it's like, I understand,

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Speaker 3: LA has just not had an opportunity to be wealthy

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00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 3: enough to have their players healthy to really put together

442
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: a team that can show what they can do. And

443
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 3: then I look at Washington, Washington five and seven.

444
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 4: I am.

445
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 3: I am impressed with Washington because I didn't expect them

446
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 3: to even be five and seven. But Kiki Iria Finn Honey, honey, really,

447
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: I have to switch my Rookie of the Year selection

448
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 3: because I came in thinking it was gonna be paid.

449
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: I think everybody was gonna be paid. Right now, it's

450
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: Kik Listen.

451
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Page is playing well, but you have two

452
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: rookies on the Mystics that, to me, are making a

453
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: big difference for this team. Absolutely, Sonya and Kiki just yeah,

454
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: playing incredible, incredible basketball.

455
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: Let me go back to what you started with with

456
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: the Aces.

457
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start by saying Asia Wilson is still her.

458
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I am never ever ever going to count a

459
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 2: team out that has Asia Wilson. Sure can't.

460
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: Now with that being said, Asia Wilson needs some help.

461
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: I look at this team and I look at the roster,

462
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: and they've never had even when they were winning, they've

463
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: never had that center that can help you offensively, like

464
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: scoring the basketball, because Asia's not She's Asia's like a four, right,

465
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at like a Kia Stokes, a mad

466
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: Gus's son. Liz Kittley, Now, like, you gotta be able

467
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: to get something offensively from these players?

468
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: You do? So, then I look at it.

469
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, if Cheyenne Parker Tias, right, Scheyenne Parker Tyas,

470
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: if she wasn't pregnant and was playing this season, how

471
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: much of a difference would she make on this team?

472
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: Huge tones? Yeah, I love Cheyenne with Atlanta.

473
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: With all of that being said, there is something and

474
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: you said it right, there is something missing with this

475
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: particular team and I cannot put my finger on it.

476
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: Chelsea's healthy, Jewel's healthy, Jackie's healthy, Like they're all healthy,

477
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: but there is something.

478
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: Not right. They're not connecting, they're not jelling, they're not don't.

479
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. And it baffles me.

480
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: Because they have the talent from a guard standpoint, right,

481
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: And when when Asia Wilson is leading in every probably

482
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: not now because she's been out, but before she went out,

483
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: Asia was leading in every statistical category on this team.

484
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: She was leading an assist, rebound, scoring, blocks. How is

485
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: that possible when you have the types of guards that

486
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: you have on this team?

487
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

488
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 2: So I can't put my finger on at tea.

489
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: But but I will say this again, I'm never going

490
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: to count an Asia Wilson team out. But they got

491
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: to figure the Aces have to figure it out sooner

492
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: rather than later if they're trying to make it to

493
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs win another championship.

494
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: There's there's something missing with this team.

495
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: Agreed, there is absolutely something missing. And when we come back,

496
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 3: we will kind of wrap this thing up with the

497
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: last few teams, just kind of give you an overview

498
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: of where they are and what they need to do.

499
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: And baby is a lot. We'll be right bay.

500
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: So the last three teams that we have not yet

501
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 3: touched on, and we'll just kind of touch on them

502
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 3: very quickly. Chicago, Connecticut, in Dallas, and these three teams

503
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: are the three teams that are kind of sitting at

504
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: the bottom of the barrel. Chicago, I believe is three

505
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: and eight, Connecticut is also is two and nine, and Dallas,

506
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 3: I believe at this point just finally got their second

507
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: win over Golden State and are now sitting at two

508
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: and eleven.

509
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

510
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 3: You've got to think that one of these teams can

511
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: figure out how to climb themselves out of the hole

512
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: that they're in. You know, I look at Dallas and

513
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: I say, Dallas has an opportunity. But they often shoot

514
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: themselves in the foot. Sometimes they turn the ball over

515
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: too much. At times, they get into foul trouble late

516
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 3: in games, sometimes take ill advised shots.

517
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: You know, I love what Page is doing.

518
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I know earlier I mentioned that I think

519
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: that Kiki is probably my lead right now for Rookie

520
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: of the Year. But that does not mean that Page

521
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: is not playing. Page is playing both sides of the

522
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: basketball as well as anybody can. And I thought it

523
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: was really funny that Rique tweeted that after the win,

524
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 3: she depped up Gino talking about I.

525
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: Guess the beef is over, and I said, I said, Erique,

526
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: please like.

527
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: Look, I think that they have an opportunity to pull

528
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: themselves out of the hole if they can stop getting

529
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: in their own way latent games. I look at Connecticut

530
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 3: and Connecticut for three quarters. This Connecticut team can make

531
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 3: anybody and play with anybody.

532
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta have Marina playing well. Tina has

533
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: like Tina's playing so carefree. She ain't playing for no accolade.

534
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: She knows she's not gonna win, no ship this year,

535
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: Like she's just playing as free as you can possibly be.

536
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 3: And I keep thinking to myself, this is the same

537
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: team that won against an Indiana team. This is the

538
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: same team that literally were that had no Minnesota on

539
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 3: the ropes bout fifteen points.

540
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: This is the same team that could have capitalized against Washington.

541
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 3: Like there are so many moments where I look at

542
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 3: this team and I say, you guys are playing like.

543
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: You can win games, but they don't have a closer

544
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: to me.

545
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: There's nobody that I feel like they feel comfortable or

546
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: that has shown that at the end of the game

547
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: when the game is on the line, when it's time.

548
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: For years, that was at for years, that was even

549
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: Dewanna Bonner.

550
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 3: Now it's just like Marina is still elevating her gameplay

551
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 3: to understand what her leadership needs to be. She's still

552
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: figuring that out because she ain't ever had to do

553
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: it on another team before. Tina knows that there are

554
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: more years behind her than in front of her. And

555
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: so who's going to be that person. I feel like

556
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 3: it could be Bria Hartley. I feel like it could

557
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: be j. C. Sheldon, like it could be Olivia Nelson

558
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: Adoda but somebody's got to figure out. I'm gonna beat

559
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: his dog at the end of the game to make

560
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: sure that when we are in positions to win, we

561
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 3: don't lose it.

562
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: And then they're Chicago, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago.

563
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: Take the blueprint from the game against Connecticut when you

564
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: don't make Angel have to be just inside when you

565
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: allow her to play point four ward, Angel had a

566
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: triple double, Angel had assists, Angel was involved, Angel touched

567
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: the like Tyler.

568
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: Do that, do that every time? Do that every time? Angel,

569
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: Just do everything. Don't change shit, Tyler, you my homie. Now,

570
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: why are you being a loud? Why you being loud?

571
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: Because I need to stress that is how you know. Okay,

572
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't really have a lot to add, but I

573
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: do want to make a point. I want to make

574
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: a point. These three teams that you just mentioned, Dallas, Connecticut,

575
00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: and Chicago, they also have new coaches brand none of

576
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: them have been head coaches in WNBA. Since I don't know,

577
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with Chicago because that's where you ended.

578
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Tyler. Did you hear what my

579
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: sister said? Do that? Do that? Do that with Angel?

580
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: Just do that? Okay, what's up? Move on?

581
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: And then when I look at Dallas, though, Sis, I'm like,

582
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: I was so excited about the moves Dallas made in

583
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: the off season.

584
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: Me too.

585
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you got Arique coming back, you got paid,

586
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: you got an Alyssa, you got Djena Tierra's coming back.

587
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: I am baffled at what's going on in Dallas. I'll

588
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 2: be honest with you.

589
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: I didn't see Dallas sitting at the bottom neither at

590
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: two and eleven.

591
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: I didn't see it. They have the worst record, the worst.

592
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 2: You know, Connecticut's two a nine, but Dallas is two

593
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: and eleven. Didn't see it.

594
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: Yes, players have to take responsibility, but coaching got to

595
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: take some responsibility too.

596
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

597
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: That one just confuses me. I don't even have a

598
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: lot to say about them. But when you talk about

599
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: of those three, and I'll say four, because I'll even

600
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: put the Sparks in there, right, you got the Sparks,

601
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: who also has a new coach. I think the Sparks

602
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: are that one team that if they can I don't

603
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: know when Cambrick's coming back, but if they can ever

604
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: mean it a full healthy roster, they have some really

605
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: good pieces to make some noise, and I just I

606
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: really honestly don't know.

607
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

608
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: About Connecticut, Chicago, and Dallas because just when I think,

609
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: just when I'm like, okay, right, Chicago, they're getting it,

610
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna turn it around, or Connecticut will they beat Indiana?

611
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: The first time, I was like, Okay, this Connecticut team,

612
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: they could do some things, and then they play like

613
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: they did the other night, and I'm like, nah, this, no,

614
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: this ain't gonna get it. So I don't I don't know,

615
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: just really disappointed in those three teams.

616
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: That's just all I'll say.

617
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: If there's any team in this three that can pull

618
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: themselves out of it successfully, I feel like maybe.

619
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe who I know? You are about

620
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: to say no, no, I heard, It's like I don't know.

621
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: It's like I don't I know. That's why I'm I

622
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: don't know either. I don't know either. I don't know.

623
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

624
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 3: I want to say, I want to say Dallas should

625
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: be able to do it, but you write you're mentioned

626
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: coaching and Chris Coklanis is one of the newer head

627
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: coaches in the league, even though he's been coaching in

628
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: the league as an assistant.

629
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 2: But astant is very different from being a head It's

630
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: very different from being a head coach. And so Chris,

631
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: it's a loss on the sloon girl. And I like Chris,

632
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: but I just be like Chris. I don't know, I

633
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 2: don't know. We'll figure it out.

634
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: But I think the other thing when you look at

635
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: these teams is that all thirteen teams are playing with

636
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: a level of intensity and competitiveness.

637
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: That it just grows and grows and grows. And I

638
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: am really tired. This is my rent.

639
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna start start my timer. I'm gonna start

640
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 3: my timer because this is my rent. I am really

641
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: sick of fans who think that because their favorite player,

642
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: whoever that player may be, got pushed, got bumped, got shoved,

643
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: got anything, got all of that, and I any of that,

644
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: any of that, any of that.

645
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: This is basketball. This is how the game has been played.

646
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm old enough to remember Diana Tarassi and everything that

647
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: Diana used to do as a player. I'm old enough

648
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: to remember putting that Pearson squaring up on kandas Parker like,

649
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: am what huh?

650
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: Like? I'm old enough to remember all of this.

651
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: You're old enough to remember how Delicia Milton Jones every

652
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: single player that came near her.

653
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: Let me tell you and love me some, Delicia Milton Jones,

654
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: do you hear me? Yeah?

655
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 3: Look, physicality in this league is not new. It ain't

656
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: just got here. You just got here, It ain't just

657
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: been here. You are just the one finding out. You're

658
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: the one that's just watching it. And every player on

659
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 3: that court knows that they give and they take. There

660
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: are moments that they give a file and they have

661
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 3: to take a file. There are moments that they do

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Speaker 3: someone necessary shit and they have to take someone necessary shit.

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Speaker 3: And I am sick of fans trying to twist this

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Speaker 3: narrative that folks are intentionally being extra, or that women

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Speaker 3: don't have the ability to play physical and that everybody

666
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Speaker 3: needs to play nice. Y'all can go out and have

667
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: drinks after the game. Y'all can chit chat and TikTok

668
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: before the game. But when that ball is tipped, I

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Speaker 3: don't fuck with you.

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Speaker 2: We ain't carry it, we ain't friends. I ain't here

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Speaker 2: for you. I'm here to win a game. Why don't

672
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: people get day that shit blows and grinds my gears?

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Speaker 2: Why don't you get it. We ain't for friends. Winner's

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Speaker 2: game time.

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Speaker 3: I holler at you after the game, and depending on

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00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: how much we win or lose by I might higher

677
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: at you tomorrow because I might not want to talk

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Speaker 3: to your ass after the game.

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Speaker 2: I might need a day like, come on, what are

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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: we doing?

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Speaker 3: And I understand both sides as it relates to when

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00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 3: it's your team, you want your player to have your

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00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 3: teammates back. When it's your team, you want your players

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00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: to step up. But when it's a different team, that's

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Speaker 3: the way the game goes. We can argue until we

686
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: blew in a phase. A fan of team A is

687
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Speaker 3: gonna always think that teammate is doing it right, and

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00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 3: the fan of team B is always gonna think that

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Speaker 3: team B is doing it right. The way of sports,

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Speaker 3: people stop getting so fucking worked.

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00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: Up about things that happen all the time.

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Speaker 3: I will never be okay with anybody trying to intentionally

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Speaker 3: injure a player.

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Speaker 2: I think that crosses the line. That's not physicality.

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00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: That's stupid, and it's unnecessary and it deserves to be

696
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Speaker 3: checked and punished each and every time. Intentionally judging intent

697
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: that is something that is not easy to do, but

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Speaker 3: Oftentimes some players make it very easy for you to

699
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 3: figure out that they're intentionally trying to do some shit. Okay,

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00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 3: that is very different than shit that happens in the

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00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: play of the game. And it just gets physical.

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Speaker 2: It just is what it is. That's my rent, Mike drop,

703
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: that's my rent. Cut it out, let them play. Let

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00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: me add just a little bit to that.

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Speaker 1: It happens in the freaking NBA all the time, all

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Speaker 1: the time, and you don't see people taking to social

707
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: media to talk about, oh my gosh, the game's too physical.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to watch it.

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Speaker 5: You're turning me off from watching the WNBA. Oh, you're

710
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 5: trying to hurt this player. You're intentionally trying to hurt

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Speaker 5: this player.

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Speaker 2: Listen, shut up, stop it, just stop it. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: There is a difference in playing physical like physical play

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Speaker 1: and dirty play.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference, yes, And.

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Speaker 1: The physicality of the WNBA has always been there, always,

717
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: It's always been there, Like this.

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00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: Is nothing new. The stuff that these new fans and

719
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: the stuff that people are seeing today when they're like,

720
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: oh my god, did you see her tackle her? And

721
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, did she really tackle her? Or was

722
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: it just a hard foul. There you go. Language matters, friends,

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Speaker 2: so it does.

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Speaker 1: It's not the physical play for me that is turning

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Speaker 1: me off from the w It's the ignorance from people

726
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: who don't know anything about basketball that's making me say,

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00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: I don't even want to watch this anymore, because you know,

728
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: as soon as there is a hard foul or physical play,

729
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: here comes all the trolls, Here comes all the people

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00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: to social media like, oh my god, can you believe

731
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: this happened. I'm just I'm tired of it, like, just

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00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: let them play. And I last thing, I totally agree

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Speaker 1: with you. I had when I played, I had zero

734
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: interest in being your friend on the court because when

735
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 1: it was time to play, you're standing in my way

736
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: of what I'm trying to accomplish, and that is trying

737
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: to get a DUB so I can eventually win a championship.

738
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: And friend or not, you're on the opposing team, which

739
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: means we're not Yes, we are not friends. So if

740
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: you come in a pain or you got a wide

741
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 1: open lay up, I'm going to fail your ass hard

742
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: because I'm not giving you an easy layup. And after

743
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: the game, may, like you said, it might be a

744
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: day or two later, then we can talk about it.

745
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: We can talk about it, but right now, I have

746
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: no interest in hearing about to feelings. I don't care

747
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: if I hurt your feelings. I don't care if I

748
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: fail you hard. Now I'm not I'm never ever intentionally

749
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: trying to hurt anybody ever, right right, but I'm not

750
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: gonna let you have shit easy.

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Speaker 3: That part, like, sportsmanship can exist within physicality, and that's

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00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 3: where I think some people are missing. You can still

753
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 3: have sportsmanship within the confines of physicality. It's when you

754
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: take it outside of that where you are intentionally trying

755
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,919
Speaker 3: to hurt player, where you're playing intentionally dirty like, that's

756
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 3: not cool.

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00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 2: That's never cool.

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00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter who the player is that's doing it,

759
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter who the player is that's receiving it.

760
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: It is never gonna be cool to be a dirty

761
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: player physical play ever, like it is what it is.

762
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: Like you accidentally elbowed me in the nose, and I

763
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: took exception to it and got up and got in

764
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: your face. That's a natural reactions, a natural reaction, like

765
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 3: somebody elbowed me in a face.

766
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: Right now, we're squaring up who the fuck, we're me.

767
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: I have had to check my niece and nephew because

768
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: they didn't accidentally hit me in the face as babies,

769
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: and I'd be.

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00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: Like, oh boy, no, boy, almost knocked your head off

771
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: to what is wrong? You know what I'm saying. It's

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00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: a natural reaction. When you gather.

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00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: Yourself, you move on, and you keep it going. That's

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00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: all I'm saying. So not gonna spend any more time

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00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: on this. I'm just simply saying, if you're listening to

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00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 3: this podcast, y'all.

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00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: Relax, relax, relax. It is not it. It is what

778
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: it is. Okay, it is what it is. And on

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00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: that note, we will be back to close this thing out.

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00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 2: All right. That's that because we just dropping the mic.

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00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: It just is what the fuck it is. We said it.

782
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we still got a lot of basketball left to play,

783
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: and so obviously, you know, you and I are gonna

784
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: continue to talk about basketball, continue to talk about you know,

785
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 3: the w NBA.

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00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: We're both gonna be at All Star in Indianapolis.

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00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: We're actually both gonna be linking up for Fanatics Fest

788
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: and I'm super excited about that.

789
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: And if y'all are in New York, swing by come

790
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: through this.

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00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 4: Walk a Sporting Goods stage on Saturday, Yes, Saturday the

792
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: twenty first, Come on at US three to three forty

793
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 4: five pm. That's right PM period, that's right to be

794
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: there on Friday, y'all come check me out, come see me.

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00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, y'all need to go holler

796
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: as Shirl on Friday and buck her and get her

797
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: the signs and stuff.

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00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, come on, clay us. This is

799
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 2: just a short walk.

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00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 4: MG.

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00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: So with that being said, we're gonna keep it locked

802
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: in a WNBA all season long. We will absolutely have

803
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 3: way more conversation about this as the season continues. And Cheryl,

804
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: before we head on out of here, we need you

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00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: to level us on up this real simple, real real,

806
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: real simple. I might even gonna say anything. I'm just

807
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: gonna read it here it goes. Your time is limited,

808
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: so don't waste it living someone else's life. Oh that's

809
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: a mic drop for real, short and sweet, but very deep,

810
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 3: just very they too, because your life started this show

811
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: talking about being nervous about going on TV with my

812
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 3: bright ass bread here and then you come with that period,

813
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: You love it? Do you boot do it well?

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for listening to Levels to This.

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Speaker 3: We will absolutely be back next week with more next

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Speaker 3: level conversation, just talking about everything and.

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Speaker 2: The real shit that we go through is women.

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Speaker 3: Probably gonna have some stories from fanatics best because knowing

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Speaker 3: us something is gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Knowing us some something that's gonna pop off.

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Speaker 3: But we want to hear from you, right, so leave

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Speaker 3: us a review in Apple Podcasts. You can email us

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Speaker 3: at Levels to This Podcast at gmail dot com and

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Speaker 2: Thought of this week's show. Continue to share our content, engage.

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Speaker 3: With us on social media, specifically following us on Instagram

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Speaker 3: at ltt pod. But until next time, keep your mentals

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Speaker 3: ground level and we will.

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Speaker 2: Be back next week. Peace out, peace y'all, and.

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