1
00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,440
Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, everybody?

2
00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,520
Speaker 1: It is straight fire with Jason McIntyre. Only Jason McIntyre

3
00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,720
Speaker 1: is not here. He is out on a beach somewhere

4
00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,079
Speaker 1: with no shirt on, per usual behind the glass. I

5
00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,239
Speaker 1: want you guys to know that he usually records his

6
00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,080
Speaker 1: podcast without a shirt, so this is pretty much part

7
00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,240
Speaker 1: for the course for him. The guy has not worn

8
00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,680
Speaker 1: his shirt since the mid nineties, but filling in instead

9
00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,640
Speaker 1: along with me. Rob g is the other producer of

10
00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,479
Speaker 1: this show. You know him as a guy who puts

11
00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,879
Speaker 1: together all those cool Instagram videos that uh, Jason likes

12
00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,800
Speaker 1: to share whenever he has a hot take. That kind

13
00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,360
Speaker 1: of worked out a little bit none other than Gavin Kinsell.

14
00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,000
Speaker 1: What's up, Gavin? What's up? Man? Happy to be here

15
00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,560
Speaker 1: and bring some uh some some actual hot takes to

16
00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,319
Speaker 1: the podcast. Alright, alright now, If you guys don't know Gave,

17
00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,280
Speaker 1: I know he worked on the social media mentioned that already,

18
00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,280
Speaker 1: but he was also Jason's producer on the weekends back

19
00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,800
Speaker 1: in the day, just like I was even before that.

20
00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,920
Speaker 1: But now Jay's excuse me, Gavin has moved on to

21
00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,280
Speaker 1: bigger and better things. He's now producing the Doug Gottlie

22
00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,400
Speaker 1: Show week days on Fox Sports Radio. So, you know,

23
00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,280
Speaker 1: just to give you an idea of to how big

24
00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,920
Speaker 1: of a deal Gavin is, his dog has an Instagram account.

25
00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't you reach certain levels of notoriety

26
00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,160
Speaker 1: when your pets have Instagram. That is true, she's not

27
00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,480
Speaker 1: verified yet, she does have. My white shepherd has an

28
00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:39,319
Speaker 1: Instagram account. All right now, now, Gavin, yesterday was Father's Day.

29
00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,600
Speaker 1: Happy father Day. All the fathers out there and anybody

30
00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,840
Speaker 1: who even single mothers out there, Happy father do you guys? Well,

31
00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,720
Speaker 1: but Gavin, did you have a good Father's Day weekend?

32
00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,920
Speaker 1: I did. I spent it with my brother who just

33
00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,920
Speaker 1: became a new father about a week so him and

34
00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,720
Speaker 1: his nephew and then also my dad, so fun times

35
00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,040
Speaker 1: out and Seemi Valley. Okay, okay, Well you know who

36
00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:05,000
Speaker 1: did not have a good Father's Day? Who's that? That

37
00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,200
Speaker 1: would be Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers is a star on

38
00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,560
Speaker 1: this podcast. As you guys know, Jason, I have been

39
00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,680
Speaker 1: killing Doc Rivers since the podcast started, because it started

40
00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,440
Speaker 1: in the bubble last year when the Clippers left three

41
00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,000
Speaker 1: one lead. Well, Doc Rivers is back in the history

42
00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:28,600
Speaker 1: books again for yet another playoff collapse, the Philadelphia Sixers

43
00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,680
Speaker 1: lose in Game seven at home to the Atlanta Hawks.

44
00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,120
Speaker 1: I got some stats for you, Gallon with throw it

45
00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,280
Speaker 1: at you, just to give you an idea as to

46
00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,000
Speaker 1: how bad Doc Rivers has been as a playoff coach.

47
00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,839
Speaker 1: His teams have now lost four straight Game seven's. Okay,

48
00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,639
Speaker 1: his twenty nine losses with a chance to clinch a

49
00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,280
Speaker 1: playoff series, which is the most by a coach in

50
00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,840
Speaker 1: NBA history. He has a three forty one winning percentage,

51
00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,160
Speaker 1: which is the worst time and one coaches with over

52
00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,040
Speaker 1: twenty games in potential clinching scenarios in a playoff series.

53
00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,240
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers proved on Sunday, which he has proved in

54
00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,680
Speaker 1: the bubble last year, which he has been proving over

55
00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,840
Speaker 1: and over and over and over and over for the

56
00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,040
Speaker 1: better part of a decade, that he is the most

57
00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:26,680
Speaker 1: overrated coach in NBA history. Okay, even if you were

58
00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,920
Speaker 1: to take out what happened yesterday, and we'll get into

59
00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,560
Speaker 1: that a little bit later, because we got some Ben

60
00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,119
Speaker 1: Simmons stuff that we've got to get to as well,

61
00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,480
Speaker 1: dating back to two thousand nine, which is the year

62
00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,920
Speaker 1: after the Boston Celtics Big Three won the championship over

63
00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,880
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers. Was a great team that they

64
00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,240
Speaker 1: came together in their first season. Kudos to them. Two

65
00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,960
Speaker 1: thousand nine, Doc Rivers led Boston Celtics up three two

66
00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,280
Speaker 1: over Orlando. They lost the series. The following year, up

67
00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:01,680
Speaker 1: three two over the Lakers in the finals, lost the series.

68
00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,520
Speaker 1: Two thousand twelve, Boston Celtics up three to over Lebron

69
00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,920
Speaker 1: d Wade in the heat, and we all know how

70
00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,000
Speaker 1: that went. Lebron goes nuclear in Game six on the road,

71
00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,640
Speaker 1: and what do you know, Boston loses the series. The

72
00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,719
Speaker 1: following year, he goes to the Clippers and we're thinking, hey,

73
00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,400
Speaker 1: they got a good team, they got Chris Paul, Blake Griffin.

74
00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,360
Speaker 1: This can't be more of the same. It's got to

75
00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,400
Speaker 1: be something in the water in Boston that's causing them

76
00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,960
Speaker 1: to blow these games in these playoffs series, up three

77
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:36,279
Speaker 1: two on the Grizzlies, losing seven, including Game seven at home.

78
00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,039
Speaker 1: They blow a three one lead to the Houston Rockets,

79
00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,560
Speaker 1: and if I recall, in one of those games, I

80
00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,080
Speaker 1: don't think James Harden even played in the second half.

81
00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,360
Speaker 1: It was like a Corey Brewer show. That led to

82
00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,480
Speaker 1: the Clippers, losing the three one. The following year up

83
00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,800
Speaker 1: two oh over Portland, they go on to lose four

84
00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:03,520
Speaker 1: straight games and losing six. Last year in the bubble,

85
00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,960
Speaker 1: they blow it through one leads to Denver. This year one,

86
00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,359
Speaker 1: you got arguably the best big man in basketball, Joel Embiid.

87
00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,480
Speaker 1: You have a veteran team, you have the number one

88
00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,880
Speaker 1: overall seed, home court advantage. You're up to one over

89
00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,400
Speaker 1: the Hawks, who I don't think have anybody on their

90
00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,920
Speaker 1: team with playoff experience outside of Gallinaria. Could be wrong,

91
00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,719
Speaker 1: but maybe Gabby would check that out. They're up to

92
00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,720
Speaker 1: one heading into Game four, they're up by eight team

93
00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:40,200
Speaker 1: points and they lose. They're up by in Game five,

94
00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:48,120
Speaker 1: they lose. They get home Game seven, they're winning in

95
00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:54,800
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and what happens they lose. I don't

96
00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:00,279
Speaker 1: understand why people continue to push it. Doc Rivers and

97
00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,599
Speaker 1: this narrative that he is a great NBA coach or

98
00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,920
Speaker 1: even a good NBA coach because he has one championship,

99
00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:14,120
Speaker 1: because he got a big three that all bought into

100
00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,200
Speaker 1: a system. Kevin Garnett self sacrifice off on the offensive

101
00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,520
Speaker 1: ent committed himself to defense. They caught lightning in a bottle.

102
00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,960
Speaker 1: They won one championship, and suddenly Doc Rivers is a

103
00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,320
Speaker 1: great coach. Not counting before Kevin Garnett got to the

104
00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,760
Speaker 1: Boston they had a nineteen game losing streak in Boston

105
00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,159
Speaker 1: when Doc Rivers at the Helm, or even before that

106
00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,600
Speaker 1: when he was in Orlando, which led to him being fired.

107
00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,560
Speaker 1: I believe it's a two thousand and three. He started

108
00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,559
Speaker 1: off the season one and ten and got fired. Doc

109
00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:55,360
Speaker 1: Rivers continues to get jobs, and very good jobs at that.

110
00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,880
Speaker 1: He's not getting, you know, the Wizard's job. He's not

111
00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,800
Speaker 1: getting the pal In job. He's not getting the timberweld jobs.

112
00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:10,720
Speaker 1: He's getting prime NBA rosters loaded with talent, immediate championship contenders.

113
00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,800
Speaker 1: Because he's a nice guy, because he's good to the media,

114
00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,080
Speaker 1: because he's willing to be as honest as possible when

115
00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:26,640
Speaker 1: he does his postgame press conferences. People like him, But

116
00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,520
Speaker 1: being likable does not make you a good coach. Being

117
00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,720
Speaker 1: likable does not mean that we can count on you

118
00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:41,080
Speaker 1: to come through in the big moments. Now, in typical

119
00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:47,720
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers fashion, on Sunday, he didn't own up to

120
00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,200
Speaker 1: anything in the series. He didn't say, you know what

121
00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,400
Speaker 1: my rotations were trash. You know what, I went with

122
00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,520
Speaker 1: my bench a little bit too long in Game seven.

123
00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,800
Speaker 1: That caused us to kind of fumble things away there

124
00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:05,320
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. You know what, maybe I could

125
00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,400
Speaker 1: have tinkered with some things and made sure that Joe

126
00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,400
Speaker 1: l Embiid had more of a paint to work with

127
00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,640
Speaker 1: instead of always having another non shooter on the floor

128
00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,800
Speaker 1: with him that clogged things up. And Joel Lebe was great.

129
00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he was still hitting midrange jumpers s head

130
00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,360
Speaker 1: a couple of threes last night. He was really good.

131
00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think that Doc Rivers did anything to

132
00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,040
Speaker 1: make things easier on him. I don't think that Doc

133
00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,880
Speaker 1: Rivers made the necessary adjustments to counter what it was

134
00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,120
Speaker 1: that Atlanta was doing. And it's fitting that that game

135
00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,559
Speaker 1: came after the Clippers Sons game, which the Suns that

136
00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,320
Speaker 1: end up winning. You know, we kind of expected that

137
00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,360
Speaker 1: the Clippers just played seven games, Sons were will arrested

138
00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,280
Speaker 1: even without Chris Paul. I think they came into the

139
00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,760
Speaker 1: game as favorites, so it wasn't too shocking that the

140
00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,520
Speaker 1: Sun's got the win. But Tyler in the previous series

141
00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,839
Speaker 1: got a lot of credit, and rightfully so. For pushing

142
00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,400
Speaker 1: the right buttons, for going to Terrence Mann, who I

143
00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,680
Speaker 1: think only played one minute in games one and two

144
00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,079
Speaker 1: and ended up being huge for them in the back

145
00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,600
Speaker 1: half of that series. For deciding, you know what, I know,

146
00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,480
Speaker 1: Zoo Boss has been our starting center all year, I'm

147
00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,720
Speaker 1: gonna put him to the bench because we're gonna play

148
00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:23,960
Speaker 1: better against Utah with Buttune and Morris at center than

149
00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,360
Speaker 1: we are with the Dubos. They were making changes game

150
00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,520
Speaker 1: to game, half to half, quarter to quarter, even mid quarter.

151
00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,439
Speaker 1: They were making tweaks that he felt would work. And

152
00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,800
Speaker 1: now some people like Jason McIntyre, who hosts the show,

153
00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,960
Speaker 1: he was just say, hey, you know, he's just throwing

154
00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,320
Speaker 1: his darts again, darts against the dartboard. He's just hoping

155
00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:49,160
Speaker 1: something happens. And sorry, Jason, you are proved incorrect. Former

156
00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,480
Speaker 1: Laker Tyler can't coach a little bit. So it's fitting

157
00:09:54,160 --> 00:10:02,040
Speaker 1: that Tylu on Sunday Afternoon owed you we're down Kauai

158
00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,040
Speaker 1: Leonard Marcus Morris is banged up. We're gonna do some tweaks.

159
00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,760
Speaker 1: And they were in that game all the way to

160
00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,640
Speaker 1: the middle of the fourth quarter. You know, they were

161
00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,480
Speaker 1: using scotch tape and bubble wrap, you know, to make

162
00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,520
Speaker 1: things work. Didn't work out, but you know what, they

163
00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,000
Speaker 1: were willing to try different things. Doc Rivers does not

164
00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,040
Speaker 1: like to try different things. But again typical Doc Rivers fashion,

165
00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:34,440
Speaker 1: very motivational in the post game, very in tune with

166
00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,079
Speaker 1: the pulse of how the city is feeling and how

167
00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,960
Speaker 1: heartbroken they were, how you know this means a lot emotionally,

168
00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,440
Speaker 1: and we're ready to get back at it. But one

169
00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,200
Speaker 1: thing he did say in the post game he was

170
00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,880
Speaker 1: asked about Ben Simmons, who had a horrible series. Do

171
00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,280
Speaker 1: you think that Ben Simmons can be the point guard

172
00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:05,480
Speaker 1: on championship team? Doc Rivers says, quote, I don't know

173
00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:11,400
Speaker 1: the answer to that. What the hell are you doing?

174
00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,480
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers? I completely agree. There's no disagreements there. Doc

175
00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,800
Speaker 1: Rivers um, he's lost five game seven's at home. If

176
00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,240
Speaker 1: you count the bubble that is insane. Doc Rivers seems

177
00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,560
Speaker 1: to be almost a made man. It's like he did something.

178
00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was to David Stern or

179
00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,400
Speaker 1: to Adam Silver. He has some sort of something on

180
00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,480
Speaker 1: them that he keeps getting these jobs. And you said

181
00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,320
Speaker 1: it with Tyler. We've seen the whole story of this

182
00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,280
Speaker 1: postseason has been what coaches can do over a seven

183
00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,200
Speaker 1: game series. It's not one game. You have time to

184
00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,840
Speaker 1: make adjustments. This was game seven. He never found the

185
00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,679
Speaker 1: rotations that worked. And before the game, I swear they

186
00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,480
Speaker 1: said to him, what are your thoughts on Ben Simmons

187
00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,960
Speaker 1: and playing him at the end of the game. And

188
00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,640
Speaker 1: he laughed at the idea of benching him. He laughed

189
00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,480
Speaker 1: at the idea that he didn't have faith in Ben

190
00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,200
Speaker 1: Simmons and that brutal ending to that game. And we'll

191
00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,560
Speaker 1: talk about it. We'll talk about Ben Simmons not dunking

192
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,200
Speaker 1: the ball. We'll talk about it. But oh my god,

193
00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,520
Speaker 1: Doc Rivers, I don't think it. Darryl Moray has the

194
00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,640
Speaker 1: attachment to him like he did with the Clippers. I

195
00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,079
Speaker 1: don't think he's a puppet there just doing whatever they want.

196
00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,200
Speaker 1: I think they trusted him to make moves in this

197
00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,680
Speaker 1: series and to get them to this spot. There's a

198
00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,520
Speaker 1: reason they were a popular pick to make the NBA

199
00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,240
Speaker 1: Finals and then a second round exit falling on their

200
00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,480
Speaker 1: face like that. Eighteen lose, up, twenty six lose. They

201
00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,559
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in the Game seven, and this is

202
00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,079
Speaker 1: where they are Fox Sports Radio has the best sports

203
00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,880
Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows

204
00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,160
Speaker 1: at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I

205
00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,240
Speaker 1: Heart Radio app search f s are to listen live.

206
00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,920
Speaker 1: You know it's funny, you know he laughed at the

207
00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,959
Speaker 1: idea of not trusting Ben Simmons. If he was as

208
00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,040
Speaker 1: honest in the pregame as he was in the post game,

209
00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,720
Speaker 1: he would have said, you know what, I don't trust

210
00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,959
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, and he might have taken some arrows for it.

211
00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,760
Speaker 1: But at least it's for good reason. I mean Ben Simmons.

212
00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,600
Speaker 1: You mentioned the refusing to dunk. It was a microcosm

213
00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,280
Speaker 1: of the Ben Simmons experience. Okay, about three minutes to

214
00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,640
Speaker 1: go in the game, sixers down to Ben has the

215
00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,360
Speaker 1: ability to just dunk it. The only person being him

216
00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,040
Speaker 1: in the rim is Trey Young, and Trey Young is

217
00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,520
Speaker 1: at least a foot under the basket on the other side.

218
00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,120
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Ben Simmons decides to pass the ball

219
00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,400
Speaker 1: to Thible. I don't know if he was afraid of

220
00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,480
Speaker 1: getting foul because he has been a terrible fraul shooter.

221
00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,199
Speaker 1: I think he's like thirty three percent for the series,

222
00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,400
Speaker 1: which is worse than shock, and instead of getting the

223
00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,040
Speaker 1: two points, they only get one. I mean, Joe l

224
00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,440
Speaker 1: Embiid after the game called that the turning point of

225
00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,880
Speaker 1: the game. So not only did you have Ben Simmons,

226
00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,520
Speaker 1: excuse me, Doc Rivers storing Ben Simmons under the bus,

227
00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,040
Speaker 1: you had Joel M b thor m under the bus.

228
00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,760
Speaker 1: And as much as it's great for me and you

229
00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,600
Speaker 1: and people who work in the media to hear quotes

230
00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,520
Speaker 1: like that because it makes our job as a hell

231
00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,439
Speaker 1: of a lot easier, here there's something to talk about

232
00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,600
Speaker 1: that can't go over well in the locker room. And

233
00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,240
Speaker 1: we knew earlier in the season that they offered Ben

234
00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,240
Speaker 1: Simmons for James Harden. That was well documented that I

235
00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,800
Speaker 1: believe the offer was Simmons Thible and I think maybe

236
00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,400
Speaker 1: a first round picker two for James Harden to reunite

237
00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:44,040
Speaker 1: James Harden. Darryl Morey and Houston said no. They ended

238
00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,200
Speaker 1: up to get trading him to brook to Brooklyn and

239
00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,240
Speaker 1: again trading Carris LeVert from that deal to get Oladipo,

240
00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,120
Speaker 1: who they ended up trading at the deadlines. It only

241
00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,960
Speaker 1: got Oladipo for two months. So here's the final haul

242
00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,280
Speaker 1: that Houston got in that James Harden deal, a Avery

243
00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,720
Speaker 1: Bradley who's going to be a free agent, Kelly Olynnick

244
00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,280
Speaker 1: Dante ex him and his medical history, roading on cure rocks.

245
00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,240
Speaker 1: I think it's what I'm saying. I I don't know

246
00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:16,280
Speaker 1: if I'm saying, all right, three unprotected nets, first round picks,

247
00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:22,200
Speaker 1: and five pick swaps. It's a the definition of a

248
00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:27,440
Speaker 1: poopoo platter for James Harden. They could have had a

249
00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,000
Speaker 1: twenty four year old, three time All Star All NBA player,

250
00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,160
Speaker 1: two time First Team All Defense who is locked up

251
00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:40,400
Speaker 1: for four more years after this one. And you know what, Gavin,

252
00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,560
Speaker 1: I think Houston made a right decision. I think Houston

253
00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:50,960
Speaker 1: and Timan for Tita and his uh floundering restaurant business,

254
00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,480
Speaker 1: was afraid to take on that Ben Simmons contract because

255
00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,760
Speaker 1: I think he's making like thirty eight million four years

256
00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,760
Speaker 1: from now and and and we pound him then because

257
00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,200
Speaker 1: we're the only reason not doing is because you don't

258
00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,440
Speaker 1: want to pay the money, because you lost so much

259
00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,000
Speaker 1: money in the pandemic in the restaurant business. And now

260
00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,360
Speaker 1: fast forward a few months, Houston made the right decision.

261
00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:20,320
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons is so limited offensively. How can you count

262
00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,600
Speaker 1: on him to be your franchise player? In what world

263
00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:31,360
Speaker 1: can you have your highest paid player or your second

264
00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,120
Speaker 1: highest paid depending on whenever you make that Max deal

265
00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:40,560
Speaker 1: with the embiid be afraid to shoot. You're not gonna

266
00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,000
Speaker 1: win a championship like that. I don't think you can

267
00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,560
Speaker 1: even make the playoffs that that's your best player if

268
00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:52,040
Speaker 1: he's flat out afraid to shoot the ball. I mean,

269
00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,600
Speaker 1: say what you will about Janice who can't shoot outside

270
00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,000
Speaker 1: of five ft, but the fact is he'll still put

271
00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,120
Speaker 1: up fifteen shots at the rim. Ben Simmons will give

272
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,639
Speaker 1: you six. So you got Doc Rivers throwing Ben simmonar

273
00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,560
Speaker 1: the bus, Joel and be throw him under the bus.

274
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,680
Speaker 1: You already know they tried to trade him for James Harden.

275
00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,000
Speaker 1: If you can't tell by now, Ben Simmons is on

276
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,520
Speaker 1: the block. Ben Simmons is available for whoever wants him.

277
00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,520
Speaker 1: And Jason McIntire has floated us out a few times. Hey,

278
00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,960
Speaker 1: maybe you trade him to Portland and get Dame Lillard

279
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,080
Speaker 1: because Dame seems to be unhappy. Maybe you trade him

280
00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,000
Speaker 1: to Washington because Brad Beale is stuck in a losing

281
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:38,640
Speaker 1: franchise Gavin, can you get Dame Lillard or Bradley Bill

282
00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,160
Speaker 1: for Ben Simmons right now? No, I don't. I don't

283
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,960
Speaker 1: know if you can get Kyle Kuzma for oh, gosh,

284
00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, go ahead, and Simmons oh for oh in

285
00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,200
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in the last four games, he attempted

286
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,560
Speaker 1: three shots total in the fourth quarter of seven games.

287
00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,399
Speaker 1: We knocked Luke for not wanting to get to the

288
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,160
Speaker 1: free throw line at the end of the game, but

289
00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,520
Speaker 1: he's an all world offensive player. Outside of that, we've

290
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,600
Speaker 1: looked at when you were not asking him to be

291
00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,200
Speaker 1: the best offensive player on the team. But he needs

292
00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,720
Speaker 1: to be a number two. He needs to be a

293
00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,840
Speaker 1: just be a Chris Middleton offensively, right, Ben Simmons is

294
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,560
Speaker 1: unplayable at the end of games. When you have Shake

295
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,200
Speaker 1: Milton and George Hill on the floor at the end

296
00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,800
Speaker 1: of the game seven season on the line game, I

297
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 1: mean that tells you everything right there. Yeah, I just

298
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what they do at this point with

299
00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,600
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons because you can't bring him back. I mean

300
00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,119
Speaker 1: even they were booing, were booing him and and you know,

301
00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,640
Speaker 1: I think that Doc Rivers should probably be fired because,

302
00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,480
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, Darryl MORI has no ties to him.

303
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,920
Speaker 1: He's not the one who hired Doc Rivers to be

304
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,320
Speaker 1: there coach. But even if you were to fire Doc Rivers,

305
00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,919
Speaker 1: it's been well documented that the Embid Simmons relationship is

306
00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,160
Speaker 1: tenuous at best. And I'm promise you it didn't get

307
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 1: much better last night when Joe L. M beats at

308
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,119
Speaker 1: the turning point of the game. Was our point guard

309
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 1: making thirty million dollars a year, afraid to dunk the

310
00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,800
Speaker 1: ball because he might get fouled. There's a video of

311
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 1: his reaction when that play happened, and it looks exactly

312
00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 1: like Lebron and j R. Smith. He passes up, he

313
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 1: passes to Thibal and Joel Embiid is going crazy like

314
00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,679
Speaker 1: how how is this? Because you're giving up and the

315
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,359
Speaker 1: dunk in the NBA is the only play that you can't.

316
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,639
Speaker 1: It's very hard to miss a dunk. It does happen,

317
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 1: But to to to put a guy at the line

318
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 1: and we're not going to knock a you know, a

319
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 1: young guy like thy ball from missing one free throw shot.

320
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 1: But I and I'm sure by the way that Ben

321
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 1: Simmons was praying that he made him both so he

322
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,199
Speaker 1: didn't look like a goat, but he did. Um. But no,

323
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean to the bigger conversation, what do you do

324
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,120
Speaker 1: with doctor? Who? Who do you replace Duck River was with?

325
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 1: And what can you get for Ben Simmons? I don't

326
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,639
Speaker 1: know as Rick car while going there. Ah, we'll talk

327
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,919
Speaker 1: about Rick Carl on a second, because I've been hearing

328
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 1: and you might have heard this too, that he already

329
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 1: has a job available for him assuming things go sideways

330
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 1: for the Milwaukee Bucks, we'll get to them here in

331
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 1: a second. But I mean, can you If you're Oklahoma

332
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 1: City and you have seventy one draft picks, do you

333
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: trade some of them for Ben Simmons or does that

334
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:29,120
Speaker 1: stunt the growth of shay Gil Alexander. If you're New

335
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 1: Orleans and you have fifty four draft picks, just a

336
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 1: little less than Oklahoma City, do you throw some of

337
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 1: them at Ben sent for Philadelphia for Ben Simmons, Well,

338
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 1: probably not, because you don't want to clog the lane

339
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: for Zion Williamson. And you have Lonzo Ball, he's already

340
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 1: a I mean, he's a better shooter now, but his

341
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: reputation is that he's not a good shooter. So can

342
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: you really afford to play two non shooters on the

343
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: floor with Zion Williamson. I don't know what they can

344
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 1: do with Ben Simmons, but it seems like they are

345
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 1: going to sell him, and I think you would agree

346
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 1: they'll be selling him right now for thirty cents on

347
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 1: the dollar. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

348
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at

349
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart

350
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: Radio app search f s R to listen live. And

351
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: now we have an Eastern Conference finals the Atlanta Hawks,

352
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: who beat Philadelphia on Sunday, and the Milwaukee Bucks. Game

353
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: one is on Wednesday. Odds are already out MGM grants.

354
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: Shout out to Lamar Mitchell, friend of mine, friend of

355
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 1: the Odd Couples Show. If you listen to The Odd

356
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: Couple weeknights on Fox Sports Radio, you know about Lamar Mitchell.

357
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 1: He walks around Vegas with a big stick. Makes all

358
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: the odds over there at the MGM. Grand Bucks are

359
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: currently minus five hundred favorites to win the series, which

360
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: is huge. Davin, I know you gambled your life savings

361
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 1: already three different times already. It's been a good postseason

362
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: for He's only want to come back, but minus five

363
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: hundred is a heavy favorite. Oh my god, there's no

364
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: value there, exam, And we're gonna talk about it. But

365
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: you're putting a lot of money on a guy who

366
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: Janice is. He's you know, he's got his own things

367
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 1: to worry about. To bet on him, of course, of course.

368
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: And you know, the Books should win this series. I

369
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: mean they are, They've been the better team all season.

370
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: They have more established players, they have veterans, they have

371
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: guys who have been playoff tested, and you know what,

372
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if them winning this series against the

373
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: Hawks would necessarily be a good thing. Now, I told

374
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: you before we started recording, and I'll tell America this

375
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: right now. The Bucks winning Game seven on Saturday night

376
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: against the Brooklyn Nets could end up being the worst

377
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 1: thing that could have happened to them in the long term,

378
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: because they'll think that they're closer than they are last

379
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: week when they were down two oh to Brooklyn with

380
00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: Kyrie healthy and Kevin Durant Woe drop boarded that basically

381
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: Budenholzer was going to be fired as soon as the

382
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: series was over. If it adn't the words where if

383
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: it ended with a thud, he'd be gone low and behold.

384
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving sprains his ankle really bad, forces Brooklyn to

385
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: play James Harden on one leg over the last three

386
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: games of the series, and you could tell that he

387
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: just couldn't move at all. I mean in games five

388
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: and six, I don't think he crossed the three point

389
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: line on offense or defense, Like he was just not

390
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: interested in running. But you know, injuries happened, and because

391
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 1: of that, the Bucks won the series. Now, Gavin, I

392
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: think you and I can agree that if the Nets

393
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: are healthy, that series is over in four or five games. Yeah,

394
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: and it should have been over in game seven. Um. Literally,

395
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: Katie's shoe size was too bad exactly. I mean, and

396
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: when he said he wears he wears the size seven team,

397
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 1: but he wears eight teen basketball shoes when he plays,

398
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: So if he wore the seres that fit, he would

399
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: have been a three whner they would have lost. How

400
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: have changed that next season? But I mean, the Hawks

401
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: just took down the Sixers with Trey Young shooting five

402
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: of twenty three. I already liked the Sixers more than

403
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: the Bucks going into this postseason, so looking at their

404
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, that's gonna be an interesting one. It's it's

405
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: weird to put it all on on a Hawks team

406
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: that doesn't have much outside of Trey Young. But um,

407
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: I I tend to agree with you on this that look,

408
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: it's never a bad thing to reach the NBA finals.

409
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: Um definitely have a good shot here with the Hawks.

410
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: But uh, I just Janice is a guy that you

411
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: can't trust at the line. You can't trust him. You know,

412
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: he still can't shoot. How how many years have we

413
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: been begging him to develop a mid mid range jumper?

414
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: Which look at Devin Booker on Sunday right like, I

415
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: mean that I love that the mid range jumper is back.

416
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: Maybe that's where a summer pod. But uh yeah, I

417
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: mean and Mike Budenholzer, he's a guy that he lives

418
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: and die by that philosophy of of ride with who

419
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: got you there? And um, I mean look at the

420
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: Jazz Clippers series. They are calling for Quinn Snyder's job

421
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: because he he uh submits to that philosophy. So I

422
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: tend to agree that the Bucks aren't completely there. I think, Um,

423
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: I think you know p J. Tucker has been big

424
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: for them. I think that's gonna be a great matchup

425
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: b J. Tucker and Tree Young. Um but I don't know.

426
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's uh, it's hard to to think

427
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: that this Bucks team is going to be able to

428
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: take down either the Sons or the Clippers, especially we

429
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: don't know about Kauai yet, we don't know. I mean

430
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: that I find it interesting that we haven't heard the

431
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: Clippers talk about, well, if Kauai never comes back. A

432
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: lot of times you'll hear kind of cryptic things like that,

433
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: like insinuating that, look, it's not looking good. I kind

434
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: of think Kauai is going to come back at some point,

435
00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: maybe the series or in the in the next round. Um.

436
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I'm I'm with you on on

437
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: doubting that the Bucks are going to be able to

438
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: take it all, But I also don't know what that means.

439
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: I'm never going to knock a team for for reaching

440
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: the finals, like at least they got there, you know,

441
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: and that's that's fair. But I'm glad you brought up

442
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz because to me, the Milwaukee Bucks and

443
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz are the same team, the same level of team.

444
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: They are fantastic in the regular season because their style

445
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: of play. They've pretty much perfected it, and it's it's

446
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 1: a winnable style of play. I'm not gonna lie it's

447
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: it's it is in the regular season, but when you

448
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs, everybody's flaws get exposed. And what

449
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: I know, the Utah Jazz, it's tough to lose the way,

450
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: especially the way they lost to the Clippers without Kauai,

451
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: but them going out in the second round, I think

452
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna force them, just like you mentioned that the

453
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: fagile calling for Quince Snyder said, they're gonna force them

454
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: to either change the way they play a little bit,

455
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: you know, less Rudy Gobert, drop coverage, and maybe maybe

456
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: they make a move for a big wing that can

457
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: actually defend somebody. Maybe, you know, they decide, you know,

458
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: Joe Ingles and Jordan Clarkson are great off the bench,

459
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: but maybe we have to sacrifice one of them so

460
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: we can get more of a two way guy that's

461
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna help us in the postseason, who maybe won't be

462
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: as good of a player, but he's a better fit

463
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: for the postseason and and the things that we need.

464
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: So Utah losing to the Clippers, maybe the the you know,

465
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: the kick in the ASCID. They need to make that

466
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: kind of move. My concern with Milwaukee is they beat Brooklyn,

467
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: and everyone thought Brooklyn was like this juggernaut. So they

468
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: get by then, and I'm assuming that they're going to

469
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: get by Atlanta. I haven't really made my pickt but

470
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: Vegas says that they're heavy favorites. I don't think they're

471
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: better than the Suns. I don't think they're better than

472
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: the Clippers, even without Kauai. I mean, I don't know

473
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: if Kaua is gonna come back, but I think even

474
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: if he's not there, I would trust ty Loo's adjustments

475
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: more than I would Mike Budenholzer. I don't think they're

476
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: better than the Lakers, who aren't even in the playoffs

477
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: right now, because if they were healthy, I would take

478
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: the Lakers to beat them in the playoffs. So right

479
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: off the bat, that's one, two, three, four, four teams

480
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 1: that are already I believe head and shoulders better than

481
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: Milwaukee and them winning this series against Brooklyn, getting to

482
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Finals, I'm assuming most likely getting to

483
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, whether they win or lose their Their

484
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: natural inclination is gonna be just running back where this

485
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: closure right on the precipice. Be honest, if he can

486
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: just get it like a seven foot hook shot or

487
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: something like that, we're gonna win a championship. And I

488
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: just don't think that they are that close. So I

489
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: also think there's other teams like the Celtics that are

490
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: going to be back next year that could be more

491
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: more of a threat. So so I mean, like I mean,

492
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: like you said, it's it's hard to knock a team.

493
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: You know, obviously you want to win, and and maybe

494
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: they they're lucky in that they're big injury this postseason

495
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: is as in Dante Defangenzo and not Drew Holiday or

496
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: something like that. So maybe they get a Kaw wireless

497
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: Clippers team or a Chris Paul less Sons team and

498
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: that leads to them winning championship and that, you know,

499
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: kudos for that, but I don't think that's going to happen.

500
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: I think that even if they get to the NBA Finals,

501
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna lose to whatever team comes out

502
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: of the West. And so I just think that, um,

503
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: you know that they they need more changes than I

504
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: think that their front office will think that they need

505
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: based on how far they've gotten in the playoffs. I

506
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: think one camp if I do. In the NFL, you

507
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: look at the Rams and they made the super Bowl

508
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: with Jared goth and Todd Gurley, but they knew that

509
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: they weren't really you know, the following year didn't even

510
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They knew they had to actually shake

511
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: something up. They couldn't just stay with the same squad

512
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: that wasn't getting them to a championship to win it.

513
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: So the Bucks could be the same way. They need

514
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: to look at it a little bit like the McVeigh model.

515
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: Do we have to do to get over that hump?

516
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I have the answers, but I agree

517
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 1: with you that you don't want to be stagnant. And

518
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: those fans have been waiting and their team doesn't look

519
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: that much different than we've seen. I mean, you bring

520
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: in Drew Holiday, he wasn't great in Game seven. I mean,

521
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, we'll see. Well, I mean, we

522
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: do have a lot of NBA playoff discussion to get

523
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: you this week. Gavin and I are in for Jason

524
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: McIntyre all week here on Straight Fire, So make sure

525
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: you check us out and the words of Jason McIntyre Subscribe,

526
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: rate and Review. Gavin again is a gambling expert, unlike

527
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: j Mac. I don't know if you guys saw in

528
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: j Max's Instagram story earlier this week he gave Gavin

529
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: credit for telling him to bet the Clippers when they

530
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 1: were down No. Two to Utah. Made some money on

531
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: that one. Don't bet with emotion. I told him, I

532
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: know you hate this team, but you can still make

533
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: money on him. That's right. So you know you will

534
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: get some Gavin's best bets the rest of the week

535
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: today because again there are no games tonight. Playoff games

536
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: resume on Tuesday, so again make sure you tune into

537
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: Straight Fire, subscribe, rate and review, and Gavin and I

538
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: will talk to you tomorrow