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Speaker 1: If you know Ron Wolfley, you know that he has

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear Baul so he can spend

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Speaker 1: say you're watching the Cardinal linebackers, how much has twenty

425
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: five stood out to Zavan Collins. Oh, he's a playmaker.

426
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm on the defensive side. He is uh, definitely light

427
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 1: years above his age as far as experienced UM. As

428
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: far as playing, UM, he is UM a guy who's

429
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: fully in it and is always making plays UM within

430
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: the running that and what's of what kind of growth

431
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: have you seen out of Isaiah Simmons here in year two? UM,

432
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 1: I think Isaiah is just UM. He's playing more confident now. UM.

433
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of thinking UM like we were

434
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 1: talking about earlier. It's more just instinctual now knowing where

435
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: to be on the timing that you've got to be there.

436
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 1: And I just really having clean eyes as well. And

437
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: for all the film study and for all the football IQ,

438
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: there's still that ability, right, that willingness you have to

439
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 1: run into the smoke, as the coachers say, especially if

440
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: you're the kickoff return man. And so tell us about

441
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: that and if you would look forward to that role

442
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: in the regular season, Oh yeah, no doubt. UM. I

443
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 1: look at it as just running the ball UM. As

444
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: a running back. UM, You've got to be able to

445
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: trust on their those other guys. I'm ten other guys

446
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: to do their job. And that's one thing that I do.

447
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: I do UM as far as trusting them, UM. Coach

448
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: Rogers has a specific game plans and we just all

449
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 1: got to trust it and one time it's gonna hit. UM.

450
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: I would love love to be back there, UM during season,

451
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: I'll returning kicks. So when you're in the running back room,

452
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: I think you would mentioned James Connor is someone who's

453
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: helped you quite a bit. And I know how close

454
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: you are with Chase Edmonds. Just tell us about what

455
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 1: sort of influence they've had on your game here and

456
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: you're two just really I would say, UM, just how

457
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: to even like just carrying yourself UM as a vet guy.

458
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: He's I think in year five and so you just

459
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 1: see how he moves in how he acts and stuff

460
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: like that. And that's something that I really, um, I

461
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,439
Speaker 1: really watched and just the conversations we have as far

462
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 1: as just life after football, family and stuff like that.

463
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: UM definitely means a lot. UM just having someone like

464
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: a big bro um in the room just to look

465
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: up too and just talk to um about things even

466
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: outside of football. And as we wrap it up here

467
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: with you know, Benjamin Dave mentioned you're from outside Dallas.

468
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: I see Wiley, Texas listed as your hometown, and I

469
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 1: automatically think Friday night lights, you know, I mean, I

470
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: see seventy five hundred yards rushing in high school one

471
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: hundred and eleven touchdowns. Tell us about that was the

472
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: sort of the epitome of the Friday night lights scene.

473
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean, definitely, Um, I think Texas definitely has the

474
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: best football UM in the in the country. UM. So

475
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 1: just going out there every every Friday night, just going

476
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: out there, being able to compete with the guys that

477
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: that you sweated and grinded with UM all throughout the

478
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: off season in summer UM, and so just going out

479
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: there UM and playing for one of the best I

480
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: think high schools UM also in Texas UM as well.

481
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: So UM, it was quite fun to do that. Definitely

482
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: miss on that experience. Well, best to luck. We hope

483
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: you make the team so that everybody knows your name,

484
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: because I've heard so many people call you Benjamin Eno

485
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: instead of Eno Benjamin. Hopefully I've heard that. Hopefully that

486
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: will stop and everybody's gonna know your name by the

487
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty one. Yes, maybe that's maybe that's

488
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: Kyler saying that because I'm thinking he's gonna take exception

489
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: with your characterization. Is you having the best you know

490
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: Dallas area high school? You know I'm guessing he's not

491
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: on board of that since even went to Alan High School. No,

492
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: definitely not. We kind of joke because the two high schools,

493
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: there's two high schools, and Wiley and Um they actually

494
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: split before then. M Allen and Wiley were always going

495
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: at it, and so I told him if we were

496
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: to have stayed one school, we definitely would have been

497
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: beating them year in a year for sure. That's good.

498
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Speaker 1: You know, thank you for the time. Appreciate it all

499
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: the best of this season. Thanks man, Appreciate you guys

500
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: for having me. All right. There you go, Cardinals running back,

501
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin once again, the first Cardinals draft pick

502
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: out of ASU since Pat Tillman nineteen ninety eight. We

503
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,959
Speaker 1: roll on with a big red ray presented by santan

504
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert. Right after this shotgun snap two, Mahomes

505
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: hands it off, no running room off the right side

506
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: and back of loss up two on the play, Xavin Collins,

507
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: the first guy there, personally missed too many tackles, had

508
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: a big missplay in the middle. There's some things that

509
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: we've got to clean up from a not really a

510
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, a Simon standpoint, but just kind of a

511
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: basic football standpoint, like tackling, and I'm a big part

512
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: of that. We got to do better in that aspect.

513
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: A smart postgame radio interview, Wolf, I know you were

514
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: listening with Dave Pass up in the booth, and I'd

515
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: love to get your takeaways. That was Zavin Collins after

516
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: the Kansas City game. And let me just share with

517
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: you what you couldn't see on radio. It's the Big

518
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Speaker 1: Red Rags presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are

519
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Speaker 1: santan Ford Top of the Hour. By the way, don't

520
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: forget Cardinals flight plan drops yep, tick talk YouTube dot com,

521
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: slash Azy Cardinals. Kyler Murray miked up in this one,

522
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: so real good stuff. Top of the Al Cardinals flight Plan.

523
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: And there was Zaven Collins getting back to Zaven and

524
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: after that Kansas City game, And it was just the mannerisms.

525
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 1: It was the body language, it was the fact he

526
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: was somewhere between deep in thought and despondent. Will if

527
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: he kept focusing on what he did wrong. There was

528
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: a lot to like, but there was a lot that

529
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: he cited he didn't like. And to me, that just

530
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: showed a lot of maturity because I think the guys

531
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: who were drafted in the first round and they're given

532
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: the keys to the defense and they get the big contract.

533
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: A lot of guys feel like, Okay, I'm a right,

534
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: I've arrived on bulletproof. And that was definitely not him.

535
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: He's critical of his own play and you tell me,

536
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna go a long way, and it's

537
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: oh ding ding ding dang. You win the prize, Paulie.

538
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that, Listen. I had the opportunity,

539
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: paul And I've told you this story many many times,

540
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: but I had the opportunity when I went out to

541
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl in nineteen eighty six and nineteen eighty

542
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: seven to sit next to Walter Bayton Peyton and his

543
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: locker was right there, Polly. And you know, Walter Payton

544
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: maybe the greatest running back of all time. To me,

545
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: he is the greatest running back of all time because

546
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: of not only what he did with the ball, but

547
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: what he did without the ball. You go back and

548
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: watch Walter Payton and blitz pick up. Oh, he just

549
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: hammer linebackers that that came and tried to pass rush

550
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. So I look at Walter Payton, I

551
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: just picked his brain over and over and over again,

552
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: especially that first year in nineteen eighty six, and Paully,

553
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: I'll never forget he told me, I don't want to

554
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: hear about you know how many yards I had in

555
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: this game and how many touchdowns I scored. All I

556
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: could think of Wolf is the failed place, the negative plays.

557
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: That's what he focused on. He focused on his failures,

558
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: not his successes, and it drove him. Paully, and I

559
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: think this is exactly the characteristic that I love about

560
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: Zavian Collins. Yeah, because in that postgame interview, You're right,

561
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: I kept asking about plays he made, and he was

562
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: more focused than the place he didn't make. Yea, and

563
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: you saw a kid really improve and grow through the

564
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: course of camp. In fact, we'll hear from Zamon Collins momentarily,

565
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: but Cliff Kingsbury and an almost daily basis, was fielding

566
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: questions in the media, not only zaven Collins, but obviously

567
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: his running made Isaiah Simmons, who's in year two, here's

568
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury and what they can learn from that Kansas

569
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: City game. I thought they took a step forward from

570
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: week one, and that's a early good offense. They create

571
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: a lot of misdirection, do different things to put p

572
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: on space, and I thought it was good for them

573
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: to see that type of speed that's have of tempo

574
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: from one of the best offenses in the league. And yeah,

575
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: I guess the biggest thing is they took a good

576
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: step from week one to week two. I mean, think

577
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: about it. They got to go against Patrick Mahomes for

578
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: nearly a half. Yeah, I mean in today's preseason, that's

579
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: unheard of. They played most of their starters minus Tyreek Hill.

580
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: They went against Kansas City's first team offensive line to halftime.

581
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: So to me, if you're looking for valuable reps, it

582
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: doesn't get much more valuable than that in today's NFL. Yeah, Paul,

583
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: you listen. I think these young Bucks are going to

584
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: be game changers, but they have to develop and go

585
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: through the process of learning the game. I think at

586
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: the highest level, I believe Polly they will, but they

587
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: have a lot of reps to record before they get there.

588
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: Their eyes, for the most part of Polly just all

589
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: over the place, especially Isaiah Simmons. Zaven was overaggressive, I thought,

590
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: somewhat out of control at some points. He overran multiple

591
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: plays and misplayed others. As a matter of fact, mistackles

592
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: were a problem. But listen, these two are only going

593
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: to get better. They need reps, they need exposure Paul

594
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: to the NFL, and look to your point, maybe yet

595
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: another reason why Jordan Hicks is out there in that

596
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: three inside linebacker package, right, yes, why they have that

597
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: defense that's more akin to a four to three. You

598
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: get the high IQ of a Jordan Hicks. Not to

599
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: mention he's looked great in camp so far, but you

600
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: remove any sort of coverage liabilities of a Jordan Hicks.

601
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: That's now Isaiah Simmons roll primarily and then Zaman Collins,

602
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: who is able to run pretty well as a rookie.

603
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: So there's that, But yeah, there's still a lot to go.

604
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: And you know Tennessee is gonna come out in Week

605
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: one and they're gonna target these guys just like Kyle

606
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: Shanahan targeted Isaiah Simmons from the get go in that

607
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: Niners opener a year ago. So Zamon Collins was talking about,

608
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: you know what, the whole fine tuning process before the

609
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: regular season. I think of it as, you know, you

610
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: have a whole bunch of knobs that you got to

611
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: tune right, and then under each one of those big ones,

612
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: there's a billion little ones. And see right now we're

613
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: fine tuning stuff. We're on that fine tune to where

614
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: you gotta be perfect whenever you go into that game one.

615
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: So this is a good learning point to fine tune

616
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: our skills, fine tune our adjustments, all that stuff going

617
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: into Week one. Yeah, it really is going to be

618
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: so fascinating to me, Paulie going into that first game

619
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans. We've been talking about it all

620
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: off season, but once again, the Titans are a power

621
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: personnel group. That's what they're gonna do and run down situation.

622
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: They'll have two wide receivers out there, and they're gonna

623
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: be really really good wide receivers that they're gonna have

624
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: out But they like twelve personnel with two tight ends.

625
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: They like three thirteen personnel with three tight ends. They'll

626
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: go with a fullback from time to time. They're gonna

627
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: have power personnel groups out there and they're gonna hammer

628
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmages. They're gonna run the ball and

629
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna use play action to throw it. And this

630
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: is gonna be the challenge for Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons.

631
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: And guess what the Minnesota Vikings pretty much the same

632
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: way with Delvin Cook as they're running back and run

633
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: down situation and using play action the first two weeks

634
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: of the season. Man, they're gonna get a baptism by fire.

635
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: Can I just speculate? Okay, Well tell me if I'm wrong,

636
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Speaker 1: and I know you will. You know what's gonna be

637
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Speaker 1: easier in the regular season for Zaven Collins and Isaiah Simmons.

638
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Speaker 1: What is the tempo? No Moody goes as fast as

639
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense. They get on the ball so quickly,

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Speaker 1: especially in practice. Matt Right, They're in practice and they're

641
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna on the ball so quickly next snap, next snap.

642
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: You can't even get the ball off that quickly in

643
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: a regular season game because there's personnel changes and or

644
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: the referee is standing over the ball won't let you

645
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: snap in soil, everything settles down a little bit, but

646
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: not in a Cardinals practice. I mean they go team

647
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: and Kyler and company they are just moving and getting

648
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Speaker 1: on the ball, and that's just accelerating everything that Zaven

649
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: Collins has to consider. Well, guess what that's going to

650
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Speaker 1: slow down quite a bit when they go against Tennessee

651
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Yeah, that's a good Pointballing, It really is.

652
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Speaker 1: And it also is a good point about the Jordan

653
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Speaker 1: Hicks thing, because once again, if you're playing all those

654
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Speaker 1: power personnel groups, you might want those three linebackers on

655
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Speaker 1: the field together, right. You might want to take Isaiah

656
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: Simmons and move them to that outside linebacker across from

657
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Speaker 1: Chandler Jones. You might want to have Jordan Hicks on

658
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: the inside with Zaven Collins and maybe allow Jordan Hicks

659
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Speaker 1: to actually make some of those calls or check exactly

660
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Speaker 1: what it is that Zaven Collins is doing out there

661
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: and run down situation. I think that, honestly, we've seen

662
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Speaker 1: that personnel group from time to time throughout this training camp,

663
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Speaker 1: and I think it's it's specifically something that Cardinals are

664
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Speaker 1: trying to develop for Tennessee. Can I ask you this

665
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Speaker 1: does it also does it also emphasize what Isaiah Simmons

666
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: does best right now, and that is he plays better

667
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Speaker 1: in space than he necessarily does in the box. Yeah,

668
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Speaker 1: and he gets him outside the box a little bit

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Speaker 1: and it lets him run down guys like McCole Hartman

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Speaker 1: on that third nine, right, And PAULI he is a

671
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: space cowboy, as we like to say, right he is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, with all due respect to Steve miller O

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Speaker 1: game in his band, he is a space cowboy. Isaiah Simmons,

674
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Speaker 1: the Gangster of Love. Some people call him Maurice is

675
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, Paul, but this guy does have

676
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Speaker 1: the ability to make plays in space. And I think

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00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: that Vance Joseph is going to try to get him

678
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Speaker 1: in those areas and give him that opportunity. What do

679
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna look like with J. J. Watt?

680
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: We see him in practice this week, Chandler Jones, we

681
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: presume he's coming back. We supposedly we're going to see

682
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: him in practice this week. We did not see fifty five.

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Speaker 1: You have those two along with the inside linebackers. And

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Speaker 1: now from all indications, Wolf, one of my other big

685
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 1: takeaways from Cardinals camp twenty twenty one, the number is four.

686
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: You have four legitimate cornerbacks with the emergence of Marco Wilson,

687
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: so all told, give me a big picture takeaway, and

688
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: how you think this defense balls this year? Yeah, Paul,

689
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: you know again, so much of it I think has

690
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: got to do with those two young guys, those two

691
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: young bucks in the middle right there, and how they

692
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: develop based on what I've seen. I love the physicality

693
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Speaker 1: of Zaven Collins. I love the athleticism in the playmaking

694
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Speaker 1: ability of Isaiah Simmons. But Paul, they got to go

695
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: out and show that they can be reliable. You have

696
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: to know what you need to do before you can

697
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: even try to do it. So those two young guys,

698
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: once again, I think, hold the key. Now listen when

699
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about a pass if we can get into

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Speaker 1: third and obvious pass situations, third and eight thirty nine

701
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: plus somewhere in there, Polly, Now, all of a sudden,

702
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, you've got that pass rush with Chandler

703
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Speaker 1: Jones and j. J. Watt. And don't forget about Jordan

704
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Speaker 1: Phillips if he is health, if he is healthy on

705
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Speaker 1: the inside, you got that pass rush now with corners

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Speaker 1: on the outside, Polly, And you mentioned you mentioned a

707
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Speaker 1: fourth corner and Marco Wilson. Oh my goodness, ladies and gentlemen,

708
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Speaker 1: what do we have here with this young guy who

709
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: seems to be developing by leaps and bounds fall the

710
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: combination of a good pass rush and good corners, very

711
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: very good thing in the NFL. And you know what,

712
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: he's so good. I don't think he's even the fourth

713
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: corner anymore. Oh, PAULI, I'm serious right now. That's serious. Well,

714
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this much. Robert Alford isn't available because

715
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Speaker 1: he's on the COVID list that Cliff Kingsbury confirmed today.

716
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: So he has and vaccinated so he can return in

717
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: as soon as five days if he has two negative

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00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: tests twenty four hours apart. That's a deal there. Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury also said you mentioned Jordan Phillips. He hopes Justin

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Speaker 1: Pugh and Jordan Phillips come off the COVI list on Monday, please,

721
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Speaker 1: so we'll see about that. Hey, choose the seat options

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725
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: going to be watching? He is going to New Orleans tomorrow.

726
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Speaker 1: What's gonna be on the list to watch against the Saints?

727
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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about the guy who was supposed to

728
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Speaker 1: have a big week, Diddy That is next on the

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Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert Tyler

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Speaker 1: Murray's got the ball, drops back to throw a lot

731
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Speaker 1: passed right corner of the end zone on the money

732
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Speaker 1: to Andy Isabella for the touchdown. What a pass by

733
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and you see the confidence of Andy Isabella

734
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Speaker 1: starring for the Cardinals. Rows straw grasshopper snapped the Murray

735
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: rolls right, throws right, Isabella caught it and he stumbles,

736
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: dives and in touchdown. Andy Isabella with his second touchdown

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Speaker 1: catch of the day. One step up the fielding and wham,

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Speaker 1: run that out. He chucked the dbat, he met the

739
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: press and he threw him out of the way. That

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00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: was the Lions game Week three. He had the two

741
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: touchdown catches thirteen yards four yards. Coming off the week

742
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: two game against Washington, remember that Andy Isabella fifty four

743
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: yard catch and then he had that slant behind him.

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00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: He caught it with his hands right. He opened up

745
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: the hips and he had a great start to last season.

746
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Speaker 1: But by the end of the season he wasn't getting

747
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: many reps. He wasn't dressing And I think Dave said

748
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: a very important word there. Confidence. It is the big

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Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by Satan Ford and Gilbert. We are

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Speaker 1: Satan Ford, Paul KLVC, and Ron Wolfley, and we've talked

751
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: to Andy Isabella and look, he's one of the most

752
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: popular guys on the team, and for good reason. We

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00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: love Andy Isabella. But he has mentioned himself, has he

754
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: not confidence and it's so key. Yeah, no, Paula, you're

755
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: right about that, Andy Isabella. This I do believe was

756
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Speaker 1: a big week for him right now, and I do

757
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: think that this game is going to be important. I

758
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: don't think it's as big possibly for him as it

759
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Speaker 1: was before this week of practice, but I still think

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans game is going to be big if,

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Speaker 1: in fact, he gets a lot of reps, and I

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Speaker 1: would expect him to get an awful lot of reps, PAULI,

763
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: but he's had a very good week of practice right now.

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Speaker 1: I do believe that he's probably made this team. If

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Speaker 1: he goes out and just shows what he's been doing

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Speaker 1: all week against the New Orleans Saints on Saturday, I

767
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: think he'll be fine. Yeah, and you're not kidding about

768
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: the importance of this week. Here was Cliff Kingsbury to

769
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Speaker 1: the media. I'd say it's a big week. I mean,

770
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't had preseason action yet, and that's important to

771
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: see how he responds in the game. And I expect

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00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: him to play a lout on Saturday. And your point,

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00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: he absolutely responded in practice this week. In fact, I

774
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: can just tell you without you he caught Cliff Kingsbury's

775
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: eye twice today in the final practice and he had

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00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: a lot of his teammates given him a lot of

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00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: high five. So there's no doubt I expect him to

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Speaker 1: get a lot of reps. There's no doubt I expect

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Speaker 1: him to make the team. Do you Yeah, No, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you on that, Polly, I really do. I think

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00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: he's I think he's made this team. Right now, listen

782
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: to the thing about Andie Isabella. That's so difficult, Polly.

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Speaker 1: You got your rookie year, right, your rookie year, and

784
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: then you have that off season year rookie year, Polly,

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00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: that's kind of a big deal right there, right that

786
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: that first season right there, Well, as a rookie, you

787
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: basically can't slap your cheek with either hand for the

788
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Speaker 1: most part, and then Polly, you get that second year

789
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Speaker 1: off season. Well, did he have a second year off season? Polly?

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Speaker 1: Did he have one. You know, no he did not.

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00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: I just Andie Isabella. Now, all of a sudden he's

792
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: in training camp and look what happens a COVID protocol,

793
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: not once, but twice. You know, this guy can't get

794
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: a break when it comes to his development. And you

795
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: know what else, I think the Arizona Cardinals want to

796
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: see him get a full season under his belt with

797
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: his new position coach Sean Jefferson. Yes, I think that's

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00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: gonna be key. They want to see, Okay, how can

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Speaker 1: Seaun Jefferson develop and Andy Isabella the former second round pick.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what based on this week, so far,

801
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Speaker 1: so good. In fact, I asked Cliff Kingsbury today and

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Speaker 1: the presser about Andy Isabella and he said, and I quote,

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Speaker 1: you know what, he's got a really big ship on

804
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Speaker 1: his shoulder after missing fifteen days. He's a guy who

805
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: works hard at his craft and you can tell he

806
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: was mad to miss those days end quote. And you

807
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: know what, he played like it today in practice. So

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00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: I would concur with that. Now here's my question. That

809
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Speaker 1: receiver room, as we talk about what you're gonna watch

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night against the Saints, is the room for

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Speaker 1: a seventh receiver. If we agree the top six are decided,

812
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: is the room for a Greg Dorch or an Antoine

813
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: Wesley to crash that party on the practice squad? You

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Speaker 1: better believe it, Polly. That's why you know what? Ah, Hey, George,

815
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Speaker 1: come here for a minute. You got a minor thing

816
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: going on right now, Buddy. I want you to know

817
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: you got a minor thing. You ain't go be playing

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Speaker 1: on Saturday night because you got something real minor, you know, Polly,

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Speaker 1: I mean fishy, fishy? Is that what you're saying, just

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00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: saying right now? This is this is something that happens

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Speaker 1: that you walk up to a player in training camp. Hey,

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00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: what hurts on you? Well, you know what? This, this

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Speaker 1: and this, well, you know what, It hurts a lot

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Speaker 1: more than you think, you know, Paul. I mean honestly,

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00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: this goes on in the National Football League all the time.

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Speaker 1: Of course, so I would expect that with Dorch because

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Speaker 1: he does look real good. What about the tight end room?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you figure that most decisions are made going

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Speaker 1: into the final preseason game, But what about tight end?

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Speaker 1: Where are you how many will they keep? To what

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Speaker 1: degree are they looking at the waiver wire? Come August thirty. First,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? I think a lot, Polly. I think, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think they're good with Max Williams as their starter.

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Speaker 1: And I love that too, because he's more physical than

835
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Speaker 1: anything else, Polly. He can help you out in the

836
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Speaker 1: passing game as well, but he's more physical. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Rrell Daniels as well. I think he's a pretty good

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Speaker 1: and willing blocker as a move tight end. He's really

839
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Speaker 1: got to work on his hands. Though he dropped it,

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00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: had a lot of drops in training camp. He's got

841
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: to do better than that. You know they've got after that. Paul,

842
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: Demetrius Harris was signed. He is definitely flashed. I don't

843
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Speaker 1: know if he gets a final fifty three spot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, do they know if they keep three? Paul? Yea,

845
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Speaker 1: just like do they keep three quarterbacks? How big is

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Speaker 1: Saturday night for Chris Strebler? And I know, right exactly,

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Speaker 1: I think they do. I think they keep three. I

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Speaker 1: think they keep two tight ends, PAULI. And then we'll

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Speaker 1: see where they pick and choose. Aren't they gonna keep

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Speaker 1: ten offensive linemen? Maybe it's just nine offensive linemen they'll use,

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Speaker 1: But we'll see. Because I think there's going to be

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Speaker 1: some type of action in that tight end room after

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Speaker 1: the waiver wire. Yeah, this is a Sean Harlowe, for example,

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Speaker 1: crash that offensive line room. What about defensive line? You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna let him Michael Dogby go, are you? He's

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Speaker 1: gotten reviews and high grades from the coaches so far.

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Speaker 1: If Michael Dogby has cut, he will sign immediately with

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Speaker 1: another NFL team in their final fifty three. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be good. Paulli, where do you put to? Where

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Speaker 1: do you hide Michael dog That is the thing, right

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Speaker 1: with another minor thing? I think you're just gonna have

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Speaker 1: to have. No. I think he's made this team. I

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna be in the rotation. I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be one of the six defensive lineman they'd keep

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Speaker 1: where else? Anything else you want? What about that third

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Speaker 1: running back? You have a battle Jonathan Ward Eno Benjamin

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Speaker 1: our guest earlier, and I figure you're keeping all four

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Speaker 1: just because now Eno plays special teams. He might be

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Speaker 1: your main kickoff return guy. But what about the rotation?

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Speaker 1: Can Eno? Can he eclipse Jonathan Ward because Ward beat

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Speaker 1: him out a year ago. Yeah, I don't know. Paully

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Speaker 1: what the answer is to that. But I love what

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Speaker 1: I've seen from Eno Benjamin this preseason, not only with

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Speaker 1: a ball in this offense, but also what we've seen

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Speaker 1: on kickoff returns. I you want to talk about running

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Speaker 1: into the darkness, He's definitely doing that. I love what

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Speaker 1: you know Benjamin has flashed on teams and I think,

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Speaker 1: once again, this is just me. I think, Gayo Benjamin

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Speaker 1: has made this team. And you know what, to me,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to risk a Rondelle Moore on kick returns.

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Speaker 1: He just don't. Wolf. I was talking to a veteran

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Speaker 1: player yesterday and camp and number four, the new number four,

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Speaker 1: walked by, and he changed the subject immediately and he said,

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Speaker 1: see that kid, Yeah, he's gonna be real good, real good, Paulie.

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Speaker 1: And this is a senior member of that locker room,

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Speaker 1: and you know, players know players. There is a big

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Speaker 1: buzz about ron Del Moore. I'll just leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: I love it because his heart, the intangibles, his brain,

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Speaker 1: it's really what makes him special. And yet at the

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Speaker 1: same time, don't let it go to your head, Rook,

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Speaker 1: don't do it all right, next stop for Wolf some

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