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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. I Miles Simmons

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Speaker 1: beside me is DeMarco far It is Wednesday, September twenty six. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: we are a little bit removed from last week's game

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Speaker 1: and now the Rams are going to play tomorrow. Short week, yes,

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Speaker 1: very very very short week. But they did defeat the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers thirty five to twenty three. Had to

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Speaker 1: think about that. That's so bad. You know, we talked

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Speaker 1: about it last week. You know, you just don't necessarily

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Speaker 1: want to call him Los Angeles yet. It just doesn't

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Speaker 1: make sense right now. But you know what, I think

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Speaker 1: that was a really good victory, especially considering all the

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Speaker 1: things that happened during that game. Philip Rivers just won't die.

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Speaker 1: He just won't go away in football games, no matter what.

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Speaker 1: And I thought both quarterbacks really put on a great show. Um,

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, you know it, really it's starting to bug

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Speaker 1: me when they start throwing around that system quarterback. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you started here. It takes it takes away what

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Speaker 1: he's doing, yes, you know, and how well he's playing.

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Speaker 1: And I know you want to give a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit to Sean mcvagh and he deserves it. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy out there making passes, making plays has been

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, right exactly. Okay, But this is interesting because

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Speaker 1: this came up last week, I think on Wednesday, when

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Speaker 1: we were as the media, We're going to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, And it sort of seems to me like

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Speaker 1: it developed from a straw man, like who actually was

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Speaker 1: saying that Jared Goff is a system quarterback. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that I ever read it. And I will

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Speaker 1: admit that I fed into this because I even wrote

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Speaker 1: an article that was that with the headline Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: unbothered by talk of system quarterback. Where was the talk

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Speaker 1: coming from other than that? I just I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I ever saw the articles like Jared Goff is

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Speaker 1: only doing this because he's a system quarterback. Like, I don't.

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Speaker 1: It's everybody. It's funny, it's everybody around the stadium during

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Speaker 1: the game, Okay, I mean that's where the talk is going. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that do a lot of

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Speaker 1: jobs on the sideline for ers, what have you. They're

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Speaker 1: all out there and during breaks we all talk football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because I've seen these people for years, so

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Speaker 1: we all talk ball, what's happening, what's going on around

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Speaker 1: the league, and you know, somebody will pull me aside

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Speaker 1: and they'll say something like, man, Sean McVay is the

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Speaker 1: best play caller in the game. Okay, fair enough, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you just scored thirty five points. And then in the

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Speaker 1: same breath, you know Jared Goff's system quarterback. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay isn't out there making plays. Yeah, Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: isn't scrambling for his life. Sean McVay isn't standing down

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Speaker 1: there making you know, making throws, making accurate throws. That's

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Speaker 1: all Jared Goff. So if you want to give Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay credit, like I said, it's deserved, you also have

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Speaker 1: to give Goff credit for what you see on the field.

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Speaker 1: All that stuff isn't mcvayh right, A lot of it is,

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Speaker 1: but not all of it. Well, there's only so much

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Speaker 1: the lights come on. Yeah, like you're actually between the

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Speaker 1: white lines, right, I mean, it's not like Sean McVay

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Speaker 1: is going out there and completing the past for Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: You know, when it's third down, in eight or whatever

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Speaker 1: it was, and Jared has to make an off schedule

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Cooper Cup flashes open

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Speaker 1: and then he throws down the field and it's a

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Speaker 1: dart and Cooper Cup takes it, breaks the tackle and

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Speaker 1: goes into the end of that John McVay didn't do that.

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Speaker 1: I liked everything about that play except look, that's a

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Speaker 1: time to spike the football. If you're Cooper Cup. Come on, dude,

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Speaker 1: you just stepped out of a tackle at home. You

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Speaker 1: got to the end zone by yourself. I get it,

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Speaker 1: the Barry Sanders routine. Flip it to the official. I

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Speaker 1: want to be humble, but spike the ball man. Come on,

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Speaker 1: at least once. You know what's funny, Like Cooper Cup

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Speaker 1: will celebrate more with others than he will for himself.

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Speaker 1: That's so funny. Anybody else that makes a play, he's

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Speaker 1: the first guy for a high five when he makes

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Speaker 1: the play back to the huddle. I know, come on, dude,

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Speaker 1: enjoy it, enjoy yourself. It's funny. And like I asked

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup about this last week, just about how all

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Speaker 1: of those guys seem to genuinely like each other. Those

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Speaker 1: guys being woods Cup and also cooks like they really

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Speaker 1: that's rare. First of all, I love watching them more

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Speaker 1: way where it's like we all just want everybody to eat,

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Speaker 1: one week it's this guy, the other week it's the US,

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Speaker 1: depending on what the defense gives them, what looks. This

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Speaker 1: on what they see. They know who's about to get

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Speaker 1: the rock, no matter what's called. Yeah, depending on what

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be open. Oh if I can run him

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They're all making plays all at the same time.

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Speaker 1: It just one guy's gonna catch it, right, But they're

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Speaker 1: all involved in the play to get the guy open. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But getting back to Jared Goff a little bit, is

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Speaker 1: that the best you've seen him play? Yeah? I wish

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Speaker 1: I can pull this out, and I can because we're

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Speaker 1: not on TV. Yeah, yeah, I wrote that down. Did

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Speaker 1: I have that note? I think I lost it? The

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Speaker 1: exact time had happened. It was that first and ten

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Speaker 1: the corner where it was just the perfect pass. And

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Speaker 1: I think I told JB on the broadcast System quarterback,

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Speaker 1: the right side. It was actually Jack Collinsworth, who is

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Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth's son. But Jack now does hosting for ESPN,

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Speaker 1: NFLI and whatnot. But he he posted that yes and said,

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Speaker 1: my god, Jared Goff, that's what yeah, and then sounds funny.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth actually reposted that video after the game and

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Speaker 1: he says, not bad for a System quarterback, right right right.

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Speaker 1: I mean I said the same thing to JB. And

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Speaker 1: then you flip to the other side the past that

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Speaker 1: Philip rivers through for a touchdown. Oh, to Mike Williams,

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Speaker 1: you can't get any better than that. But that that's

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Speaker 1: a guy that's considered a Hall of Famer, a living legend.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful pass. Here comes here comes Golf making a similar

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Speaker 1: beautiful pass, not for a touchdown, but still it killed

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Speaker 1: the defense. It did. Yeah, you had that boxed in.

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Speaker 1: That's how you teach that coverage. But the throw beat him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is beautiful. That's not system, that's a guy getting better, Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because in that game, to me, it

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Speaker 1: the Rams offense was the Rams offense. And it's true, right,

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Speaker 1: like when you had early in that game, the first drive,

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Speaker 1: did this defense like pooh through a goose? Right, Like

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Speaker 1: that's you don't say pooh, but you know what I

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Speaker 1: got you? Yeah? Yeah, you know how about hot knife

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Speaker 1: through butter? Yes? Okay, okay, yeah yeah, it's a family show, right, right,

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Speaker 1: but you have that then you later in the game,

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Speaker 1: Golf throws the interception and then also right, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was a terrific pick by d James. But then on

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Speaker 1: the one drive that they had to punt, you had

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Speaker 1: a face mask penalty and then another holding penalty. Right,

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Speaker 1: the Rams were the only team that stopped their offense.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the way it's going to be

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Speaker 1: like it's it's it's unfolding like a chapter play, like

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Speaker 1: the plays that he's calling, he's built off the plays

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Speaker 1: that he's already had success with. So I keep saying this,

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Speaker 1: You can only prepare for what the rams were, not

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Speaker 1: what they're going to be on game day. And the

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Speaker 1: only one, the only people that know that are McVeigh

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Speaker 1: and Goff and the offense. So what I give you

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Speaker 1: it'll be some sort of misdirection. And that's you can

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Speaker 1: when you're racking up five hundred yards on a pretty

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Speaker 1: captains say we left a little bit more on the field,

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Speaker 1: and they did, but that's what But that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You had two turnovers and you had a face mask penalty.

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Speaker 1: Those are the drives where you really did you demonstratively

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Speaker 1: left something on the fielding They could not stop that

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, YEA, that that was the case. It has

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Speaker 1: got Sean McVeigh who continues to build off everything what

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. And I don't need any disrespect

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Speaker 1: to Sammy Watkins when I say you can, but you

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Speaker 1: got you got rid of somebody who I don't shouldn't

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Speaker 1: say got rid of, but like you have replaced somebody

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Speaker 1: got significantly better. I think that's a fair assessment between

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Speaker 1: asked Tavon to do. Cooks can do everything you've asked

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Speaker 1: Sammy to do, say for being a big receiver down

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Speaker 1: get in there and he does block down field. It's

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Speaker 1: of wish Robert Woods wouldn't have maybe rammed into his

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Speaker 1: to hold that block a little bit better. I mean,

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Speaker 1: It's not that big, but he's Willie. You know. I think, yes,

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Speaker 1: I think he actually blocks better than Jimmy Grad, you

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Speaker 1: know what. Okay, quick aside, Aaron Donald was asked last

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Speaker 1: week how many times he thinks he could bench Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: How many times do you think Aaron Donald could bench

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks? Oh god, how much time do you have

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Speaker 1: with both hands or just one? Yeah? Wow, yes, But

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Speaker 1: I think it's just it's interesting. You mean, we talked

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Speaker 1: kind of picked your poison, no doubt, between Woods Cup

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Speaker 1: just say if I say eighteen seventeen twelve. I'll never

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Speaker 1: woud It's like sometimes I'm like, wait, which one did

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Speaker 1: was really the Robert Woods show. Yes, and I think

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Speaker 1: you know when you have ten receptions on eleven targets, like,

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Speaker 1: that's terrific, no doubt. I think it was nine receptions

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Speaker 1: it's just wow, it's pretty. It's textbook. You can coach

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Speaker 1: in front on. It's just he is really just this

423
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Speaker 1: one dynamic piece of the offensive line and what he

424
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Speaker 1: does is incredible. Week he could set up I mean,

425
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Speaker 1: I don't know how much he has left, how many

426
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,800
Speaker 1: years he wants to play, but what he's doing here

427
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 1: could set you up for the next ten, just like

428
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 1: Orlando Pace when we had him way back. When you

429
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 1: can teach off that you want to see how to

430
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: block a draw, you want to see how to block

431
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 1: a screen properly. Watch this guy, right, so the next

432
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 1: guy you put in say it's note boom. Yes, you've

433
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 1: got a great model. Yes, you've got a great role

434
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: model in front of you. Just emulate what he did,

435
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: or do your best to try to do what he did.

436
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: You're going to be just fine. Yeah. Yeah, it was

437
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: interesting pickup to have him here. Oh yeah, great pickup. Yes, yes, yes,

438
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 1: it was interesting to me. There was like a third

439
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 1: one or third and two, like right at the end

440
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: of the game, and it was like, Okay, if the

441
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: Rams convert this, the game's over and you don't even

442
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: have to go back on defense. No, Poom was actually

443
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 1: in on that. Yeah, and then Whitworth was standing there

444
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: on the sideline and I was like, that's interesting. And

445
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown was the one who took the carry. I

446
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: don't know if that's like that's next man up? What

447
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: do you mean that is next man up? I mean

448
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: that is I remember that that was a key part

449
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: of the game to where if the Chargers get the

450
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: ball back, Rivers is hot and things could change in

451
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 1: a hurry. Right, yeah, so you need to pick this up.

452
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 1: And now Whitworth is out and Todd's not in the game,

453
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 1: but you're still going to run the ball to pick

454
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Speaker 1: it up, right, Yeah, that's well, I don't know. I

455
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 1: don't know if it was like almost like a bleep

456
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: you or like we know we can do this, or

457
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: it's just show confidence, Like but you have two of

458
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: your offensive key players out of the game and you

459
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: still run the ball like that, And not only do

460
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: you get the first time, you get plenty. That sends

461
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: a message to everyone else. Yeah, they can still make

462
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: plays even with their best. It was a message. Yeah.

463
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you only talk about that sort of stuff

464
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: with the elite football teams. I know it's early, but

465
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: it's on tape. You're building a case for that. Yeah,

466
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 1: when you see stuff like that, Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right,

467
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Speaker 1: Well let's talk about these injuries, because there were some

468
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 1: significant injuries suffered in that game. The biggest, I think

469
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: you could say it was a key to leave. And

470
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, this is why I think reckless speculation on

471
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Speaker 1: Twitter about injuries is just that reckless because sometimes you know,

472
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 1: and it's not that people are trying to be you know,

473
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: bad people or whatever, but you know, the first thing

474
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: you hear when Marcus Peters leaves is, oh my god,

475
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: it's his Achilles. Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh

476
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: my god. It turns out it's a capstrain, right, and

477
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: so he now is day to day instead of being

478
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Speaker 1: out for a year plus with something that is an

479
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: extremely serious injury. You know that that was worst case scenario,

480
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 1: and it turned out to be really best case scenario.

481
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Rakey to leave however, you know, you see him hop

482
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Speaker 1: off the field and we just don't really know and

483
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 1: there's not as much reckless speculation fortunately, but he's going

484
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: to be out for probably at least a month, as

485
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: he used schedules to undergo ankle surgery on Thursday. But

486
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: they still do expect him back at some point in

487
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: the season. So good news on Marcus Peters. Unfortunate news

488
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: on to keep to league, but again it's not going

489
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: to keep him out for the rest of the year. No, no, no,

490
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Speaker 1: I just going back to like you said, I don't

491
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: think people are bad, but there is a race to

492
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: be first, yes, yeah, and when it's injuries, I don't

493
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: like it. Like I literally I blocked who some Twitter

494
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: doctor who said, like, oh my gosh, well that's Marcus

495
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: Peter's killes and it's gonna be blah blah, blah, really, dude,

496
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: the injury just happened. It's during the game, and I

497
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: don't want you in my mentions. No, I'm all mute,

498
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: but like that on that kind of thing, I block

499
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: because you're not there. No, no, But when when they

500
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: when they hauled him off the first when the injury happened,

501
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's the way he went down in

502
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Speaker 1: a heat. That doesn't look good. It doesn't that look

503
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Speaker 1: like something popped or it looked okay, So he's holding

504
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: his ankle, okay, and then when they had him on

505
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: the table face down, You're like, okay, that might be Achilles,

506
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yes, but to go with

507
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: that as fact before you know, ye, reprehensible. Yes, yeah,

508
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: you can say it looks like but don't say it

509
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: is because you don't know exactly. Yeah, and his family's

510
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: up there, man, at least wait until they tell you

511
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: what it is officially, don't You don't You don't want

512
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 1: to panic people. But yeah, I mean, watching both guys

513
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: walk out of the stadium after the game, you would

514
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: think it was flopped. You would think Peters would be

515
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: out longer than I thought. But now that I know,

516
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: Talib is going to be out for a month maybe

517
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: and seeing his body language in the way he looked

518
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: with an injury like that, that guy as tough as nails,

519
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: I swear. I mean there was like his face didn't change,

520
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, like how did you disconnect your body

521
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: from pain that fast? Don't? Yeah, he's he's he's a

522
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: he's a different breed. So you know, look, I'm glad

523
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: you're able to get one back sooner than later. But

524
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: behind them, you still have shields to the Pro Bowl.

525
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: Troy Hill, you have the utmost confidence in and he's

526
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: going to be coached up this week as the guy

527
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: and Hatfield's coming back. Who's who's looking who's looking for

528
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: revenge against Minnesota? Yeah? Yeah, yes, yeah, I mean yeah,

529
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: we all know how that happened last year. That was

530
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: not his finest moment, but it was you gotland, I know. Yeah,

531
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Speaker 1: And it's not like not everybody. Everybody in the league

532
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: has been getting theland for the last couple of years.

533
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: But that was like before we knew what feeling was. Yeah,

534
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: we kind of had an inkling, but that's for me.

535
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: When I saw it live, Okay, you are pretty good. Yeah, yeah,

536
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: well what's interesting? And I went back, and I watched

537
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: that game. Hatfield played pretty well after that before that play, Yeah,

538
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: and then we're going after him, and it's just that

539
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: it was just that one play. But I think you're right.

540
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: I think you've got guys like Sam Shields, and because

541
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: he has so much experience, he's almost and not quite

542
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: to the caliber, but he's almost like your Austin Blaye, right,

543
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: you can put him in. He is a starting caliber

544
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: player in this league, and that's a luxury to have

545
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: at a reserve position, no doubt. Troy Hill has started

546
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: games for this team multiple games over the last few years.

547
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: Last year he performed pretty well and when Cabon Webster

548
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: went down with what was actually an achilles injury. And

549
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: then also you have Nick kill Roby Coleman, who I

550
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: think is going to start going a little bit inside outside,

551
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: which is what they did after both Peters until he

552
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: went down. And so he also has a lot of experience,

553
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: and he's played really not afraid of anybody. Yeah, I mean,

554
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: he's not the biggest dude in the world, but you

555
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: would never know it by the way he plays. He

556
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: is all over you like a cheap suit. The one

557
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: thing I do worry about look, pass coverage, I think

558
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: you'll be fine because of the pressure you're getting, because

559
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: of the pressure up the gut. It's been instant and

560
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: I could care less about the numbers, about the sack numbers,

561
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: about pressures and whatnot. You turn on the tape if

562
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Speaker 1: you're picking the Pro Bowl right now, I bet every

563
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: guard would give those two tackles their votes, Sue and

564
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: Sue and Donald. So the pressure has been getting there.

565
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Speaker 1: But what I do worry about without Peterson to leave

566
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: is run defense because they're big guys and they come

567
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: up and set an edge. Yeah, so I wouldn't say

568
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose a little bit there, but you're gonna

569
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: lose a little bit there. Well. I think run defense

570
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: is fair to be concerned about because even with Peterson

571
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: to leave on the field, you've been giving up about

572
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: five yards a carry. So that's something that the Rams

573
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: have said they need to improve on. Wave Phillips said

574
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: that you got to improve on that. I mean they

575
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: gave up I think seven yards a carry against the

576
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: Chargers last little Eckler guy again, and Melvin Gordon got

577
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: outside talked about him, you know, on the sideline. Pregame's

578
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: good he's a problem. He is a definite problem. Those

579
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: fifteen plays that he gets. I mean, you better make

580
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: sure they mean nothing. Yeah, if they're ahead and he

581
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: starts doing that, you won't be able to catch him. Yeah, exactly.

582
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: But but just getting back to that, I A I

583
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: want to explore more about what Sue and Donald are

584
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: doing when you turn on the tape because when you

585
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: know people are watching this, and I don't want to

586
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: do the straw man thing, but it's like I get

587
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: tweets all the time where it's like, what are like,

588
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: why aren't Sue and Donald getting sacks? So why aren't

589
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: they getting sacks? And what are they doing to the

590
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: balls getting out? Yes, the ball is coming out fast,

591
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: which helps the defense. Like we said, you don't get

592
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: a lot of long shots against this defense. And look

593
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: when Melvin Gordon got off and when they started moving

594
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: the football in the ground, then Philip Rivers had time

595
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: to operate out of play action because it freezes the defense.

596
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: It keeps the defensive tackles, the defensive line at bay

597
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: because it is play action and they that you have

598
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: to buy it. So then he gets the chance to

599
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 1: get one down the field. But for the most part.

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00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: If you come out trying to throw and they can

601
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: see it, you won't have time for a second move.

602
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean, either they're going to win their one on

603
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: one or take the guard back to you, or take

604
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: the center back to you. And that's been immediate. It's

605
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: been every single play, Like every single play, they are

606
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: affecting the quarterback one way or the other. Well, I

607
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: look at what the Chargers were running in early in

608
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. They're trying to get a touchdown and

609
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: make this more of a game than it was. But

610
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 1: then you have second and eight in third and eight

611
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: on the eighth, second and go on the eight and

612
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: you get that high pass from Philip Rivers that basically

613
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: goes through the uprights. So that's on second down and

614
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: he's throwing it away because there's pressure up the middle.

615
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: Same thing happens on the nets play. You know, Keenan

616
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: Allen gets a hand on it and then it falls

617
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: to the ground. But that throw is a little bit

618
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: faster than probably Philip Rivers would have liked because there

619
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: is pressure in his face. That's what I'm saying. So

620
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: those are the two plays that I really point to

621
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: where I'm saying, you know, you're not seeing a quarterback

622
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: hit and you're not seeing a sack on those plays.

623
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: But that is how to borrow, is Sean McVay praise.

624
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: You're seeing Sue and Donald influence and affect the plays

625
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: in a tangible way, no doubt. Week one, car got

626
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: the ball out to Cooks the tight end. Yeah, got

627
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: the ball out fast. Cook Excuse me, I know I

628
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: was doing the same thing. Got it out fast. The

629
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: second week, Sam Bradford was just getting the hell out

630
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: of there. Yes, yeah, he was just I could care

631
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: less about moving the football. I'm just getting out of

632
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: here and thrown it away. That's why he's not starting

633
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: now this week. Philip Rivers is, like we said, a

634
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: hall famer, he felt the pressure, let me step here

635
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: and not there. I'm gonna let me get it out

636
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: fast before you hit me. So at some point you're

637
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: gonna catch a quarterback, possibly tomorrow. Yeah, that's gonna hold it.

638
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: That's just gonna sit there and hold it and not

639
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: go not know where to go with the football, or

640
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: the coverage takes away that receiver where he wants to go,

641
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: and then those sacks will start to fall. So it

642
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: may be three or four weeks of zero and then

643
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: one game where they have five. You know, it's interesting

644
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: because Aaron Donald was talking about it yesterday. He goes,

645
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, I've I've started out slow for a few

646
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: years when it comes to sacks. So it's not something

647
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: that he's necessarily worried about, you know, early on in

648
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: the year. Oh no, I don't have a sack yet,

649
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: you know, so I if he's not worried about it,

650
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. No, No, I mean it's

651
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: it's not like he's not winning. You know, guys that

652
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: don't have sacks, that aren't winning one on ones, those

653
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: are the guys that panic. He's winning one on him.

654
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: He's winning a majority of his one on ones constantly.

655
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: He's just not getting the sacks, but he's getting to

656
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback and he's affecting the quarterback on almost every

657
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: single play. Right, And when he's not, Sue is yes,

658
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: and when they're not right, And that's the way it's

659
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: going to go on. Yeah, Well, going going back a

660
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: couple of years, I mean the only year he really

661
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: started out really hot when it comes to sacks was

662
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: back in twenty fifteen, when you see they won that

663
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: game against Seattle and the Nick Foles won really really,

664
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: really good game. I deleted from them. Yeah, well they

665
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: won thirty four to thirty one. Okay, I remember that.

666
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: I delete it to memory, delete it gone. Yeah, yeah,

667
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: there's so much new stuff to put in. Well, basically,

668
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: in the first and the first three games of that season,

669
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: he had three and a half sacks. Nice. So but

670
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: you look at twenty sixteen, didn't have any sacks through

671
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: three weeks, and then you play Arizona in week four,

672
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: gets one and a half. Look, I tell people, don't panic.

673
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: You know, this guy is good. He could he could

674
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: go for two and three sacks per game for the

675
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: next four weeks. Well, he could right easily. Even even

676
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: last year. You know, you look at it. He doesn't

677
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: have He doesn't play in that first game, Then second

678
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: game he played, doesn't get a sack against Washington, third game,

679
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: has that sack basically to end the game on Brian

680
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: Hoyer against San Francisco, but then doesn't have another sack

681
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: into Week six at Jacksonville. So again, his first four

682
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: games of last season only one sack. Ends up as

683
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year regardless. Oh yeah, it's not

684
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: like the guards are getting better. I'm just saying. I mean,

685
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: and that's with all due respect. It's not like they're

686
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: getting better guys that are that are assigned to block him, right,

687
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about Pro Bowlers, right, we haven't

688
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: gotten there yet or you did week one? Yeah, yeah,

689
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: but then we saw what he did to assimilar right,

690
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: so those numbers will He'll start to pile up numbers soon. Yeah. Yeah,

691
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: I think so. And I think you're you're probably ready

692
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: and he might make the Pro Bowl without a sack

693
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: Betty could. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, I mean, people,

694
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: if you know, you know, you know he's influencing and

695
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: affecting plays throughout the course of beginning. Oh what is

696
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: his name? There was a fullback that was in Buffalo,

697
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: really nice guy, uh Gash Sam Gash Okay made the

698
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl as a fullback without a carry and without

699
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: a catch. So that means the people who know, no,

700
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: he was murdering people blocking. Yeah. Yeah, that's the guy

701
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to follow. Also notable on the injury list,

702
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: though Joejoe Natson broke his hand during the course of

703
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: that game saw Blake Countess take back a couple of

704
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: kicks one twenty five yards, one twenty six yards, and

705
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: because the Rams are on the shore week, he's probably

706
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: still going to return those kicks this week, and then

707
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup will return hunts. And I talked to Cooper

708
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: Cup yesterday and he said, yeah, that's something I'm comfortable with. Yeah,

709
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: I've been doing it since high school. It doesn't hi school,

710
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: college it you know, it's fine. You want him to

711
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: fair catch, fair catch. So I think, right, I think

712
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: that that's what he should do because he is so

713
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: important into that offensive sea. However, Sean McVay did say

714
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: that even though Cooper Cup is really important to the

715
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: offense and he's been playing like ninety seven percent to

716
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of snaps through the first three games,

717
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: they still could be aggressive in terms of returning punts.

718
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: They could. You'd have to put that out there for

719
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: every opponent. But I guess just old Raider fans just

720
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: go back and look at Tim Brown returning punts and

721
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: see when he actually returned them, because most of the

722
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: time he had his hand up before the ball left.

723
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: The punters score fair catch, and then we'll drive the

724
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: football down Traditionally, speaking of Blake Countess, he was named

725
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: a Special Teams Player of the Week in the NFC.

726
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: Quite a minute, Blake Countess gets NFC Special Teams Player

727
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: of the Week and Johnny Hecker didn't the week before. Yeah,

728
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: who's who's voting? Who's counting the vote? Not only that,

729
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: but like, and I mean no disrespect to Blake Countess,

730
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: but homie, like you just fell on the ball, Like, well,

731
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: why isn't Corey Lyttleton getting I think that's a makeup.

732
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: That's a makeup for Johnny Hecker. Johnny Hecker found out

733
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: he's going to be the place kicker and the punter

734
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: about ten minutes before game time and didn't miss a beat. No,

735
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: but he didn't. He doesn't get it. Blake Countless gets it.

736
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Come on, So you're more more for Johnny Hecker than

737
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 1: you are for Corey Littleton because I'm kind of thinking, like,

738
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: wait a minute, soon, maybe Corey Littleton, who since he's

739
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: in there and he's no, it can't be little So

740
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: we've seen that show before. What we've seen him block

741
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: punts before? Oh no, you don't get credit for stuff

742
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: that you're great at? What credit? No? No, you block punts?

743
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, we've seen that before. That doesn't make any sense.

744
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: You've got a block. If you're Corey Littleton, you've got

745
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: a block. Two. You don't get credit for stuff when

746
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: you're that good at blocking. Punch, No, because Blake Countless

747
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: is good at falling on football's like he gets to

748
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: have it. How shocked are you when Aaron Donald sacks

749
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback? Not very okay? But that okay? Was that

750
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: guy again? You know it's gonna be him. I loved

751
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: the scheme in that block punt. Beautiful beautiful design. Yeah,

752
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: because of the way, like, look, you're backed up that far,

753
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: you're probably not thinking, Oh, somebody's gonna loop around, yeah,

754
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: and then try to get into the back when I

755
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: bet that's what the Chargers were thinking. But I have

756
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: to go back and look, I'm not sure, but I

757
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: think that might have been the first time they've used

758
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: that look on the field on game day probably, And

759
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: this is what I love. They didn't waste it. It

760
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: got home. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like, once you put

761
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: that stuff on tape, well, everybody has a chance to

762
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: watch it, study it, talk about it, know how to

763
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: block it. Right, Well, if you're gonna call it, make

764
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: sure you hit it. Yeah, they hit it. Well, it

765
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: was the perfect time. I don't feel like we talked

766
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: about the pick earlier and how it was an impressive

767
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: play by Derwin James. But homie take a knee, you know.

768
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if he knew exactly where he was.

769
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: I was standing like ten yards from I'm not sure

770
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: if he knew exactly where he was when he caught it,

771
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: because I mean, look, they've been going through hell defensively, right, yes,

772
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: so finally I think there was a quick snap and

773
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: he was he was on Jared Goff from the word go. Yeah,

774
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: so he baited, bait it and then went in and

775
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: got it. But I'm not sure if he knew exactly

776
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: where he was when he caught it. I think he

777
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: was just happy they didn't score. Probably, yeah, I don't

778
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: think he cared about anything else other than okay, they

779
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: didn't score on this drive. But it was a hell

780
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: of a play. It was a hell of a play.

781
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: But like, maybe you should have a little dude, Okay,

782
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew said the same thing I said. Okay,

783
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: let me see you try that. Okay, first of all,

784
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: you've been getting torched all the way down the field.

785
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: Your feet are in the blue, which mean you're in

786
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: the end zone and they're shooting at you. Yeah, but

787
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: if you're feet are in the blue, then you shouldn't

788
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: you know when I'm not even sure if he knew

789
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: where he was at the time, his feet are in

790
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: the blue. He caught it, he was so happy to

791
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: catch it. Next thing, you know, he's out of bounce.

792
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: So what right, Well, so you end up costing your

793
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: team seven points anyway, but he kept him off the

794
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: board though for that. Yeah, that's defensively, that's not his job.

795
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: But then he almost got a safe team for like,

796
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: when you get a turnover, who gets the rock? Your offense? Ye,

797
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: So don't blame him, blame the offense'sterally blaming would have

798
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: been good looks, right, So I don't I don't care. Yes, exactly.

799
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Two more things to go through quickly, dom easily outside linebacker.

800
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: You know he's having he had a couple of knee

801
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: issues obviously in his past, but that was sort of

802
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: bothering him during that game. He's considered day to day.

803
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: He still may go against the Vikings, So nothing structural

804
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: will happen, no real real damage. That's bad. So that's

805
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: good news. Mark Baron and there's not really been a

806
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: change there. And I said this a couple times on Twitter.

807
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: Until Mark Baron practices for a week, I really wouldn't

808
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: expect to see him on the field. And that's not

809
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: gonna happen this week, especially with the short I'm still

810
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: hoping because he adds so much to that defense when

811
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, well, that was one thing that I

812
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: noticed just watching that Vikings game again from from last year,

813
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: and it was a kind of a game to forget

814
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: for a lot of rams. But if you look at

815
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: just what Mark Baron brings to that defense, you know,

816
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: the way he can shoot the gap and get into

817
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: the offensive backfield and bring down running backs, it's really incredible,

818
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: and he adds a lot. He's not bringing finesse with him,

819
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: He's bringing intensity, right, Yeah, he's bringing pop with him

820
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: so and speed that is required of every defense, and

821
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: he brings a lot of that. So yeah, I mean,

822
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: as soon as you can get him healthy and active,

823
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: the better, right. And that's that's no disrespect to who's

824
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: been on the field, But adding a Mark Barron is

825
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: never a bad thing, No, it's really not. It just

826
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: enhances the defense a little bit more what do you

827
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: take away from the Bill's Vikings game, because that I

828
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: think was probably the most unexpected result in the NFL

829
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: so far this year. Well maybe then This is what

830
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: I always say to people, and just careful when you

831
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: bet on football because you never know. Right, Yeah, Buffalo

832
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: look bad and it's easier to coach when you lose.

833
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: That's what makes me nervous about Minnesota come into town

834
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: because they just lost. But right at some point Buffalo

835
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: was going to sew it up and look better than

836
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: what they have been playing. And they did, and their

837
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: defense got after Kirk Cousins. I mean they absolutely took

838
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: it to Kirk Cousins. I mean he was getting. Kirk

839
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: Cousins hasn't gotten much easy the last two weeks. Green

840
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: Bay gave it to him. Buffalo he was it seems

841
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: like he's been pressured on every single pass attempt. Agreed, Yeah,

842
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: but they've gutted the ball down the field and you know,

843
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: stayed in games. But last week they just had a clunker.

844
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: So you would have to expect tomorrow night they're going

845
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: to be a whole lot better than what you saw

846
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: on Buffalo. That's exactly what I think versus Buffalo. Yes, yes, yes, um,

847
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: it was watching that game because I watched it live

848
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: because it was on in the press box before the

849
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Rams started playing the Chargers. And it was just like

850
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: it didn't seem like either they took the Bills seriously enough,

851
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: especially with a yeah, or because the defense, the Buffalo's

852
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: defense was doing such a good job getting the ball

853
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: out from Kirk Cousins. It gave Buffalo opportunities that they

854
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: would not otherwise have gotten really deep in Minnesota territory.

855
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: And then Josh Allen made plays, finally made plays, and

856
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: it wasn't like what she would think with a guy

857
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: was such a big arm. I mean he may play

858
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: with his legs. He really did, Yeah, he did. He

859
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: was the first touchdown. He basically supermanned into the end zone,

860
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: looked like and he got confidence and kept building on

861
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: that confidence. And that's what happens when you let a

862
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 1: guy get confident in the pocket, it's only going to build.

863
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: And they couldn't take it out of him. And I

864
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: think the opposite happened to Kirk Cousins. I think they

865
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: just got more and more frustrated as a game when

866
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: along yeah, yeah, and it just got away from and

867
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: they couldn't get back. Well, not only was kirk Cousins

868
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: facing a lot of pressure, but then you know, just

869
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: some of the pastes just weren't on point. Whenever he

870
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: did have even a little bit of time, he just

871
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily getting it to where feeling and digs were,

872
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: I mean, overshooting receivers, undershooting receivers, and that's not necessarily

873
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousins that has been the guy who has

874
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: now earned such an extra exorbitant guaranteed contract, you know

875
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. But it's funny every now and then

876
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: he has remarkable stretches of elite level clarity. Yeah, like

877
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: it'll look bad and then all of a sudden he'll

878
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: just straighten right up and move the ball right down

879
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: the field. Quarter of the green bag game would be

880
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: one of those stretches. Sows it up and moves it down.

881
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: It's funny man watching Aaron Rodgers and then watching Kirk Cousins.

882
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: They're running pretty much the same stuff, and they're doing

883
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: pretty much the same stuff. It's just Aaron Rodgers. His

884
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: slide of hand is a whole lot better. It seems

885
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: like like Kirk Cousins would be the magician you see

886
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: in the small room in Vegas, like you can see

887
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: through the illusion. You know, it's a it's a twelve

888
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: minute set, but you looked at your watch four times.

889
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: But the next guy is really the main event. But yeah,

890
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: I mean, but every now and then he'll catch fire,

891
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: and just like any quarterback, if you give him time,

892
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: he can hurt you. Oh yeah, for sure. How big

893
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: of a deal do you think it is that he

894
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: and McVeigh, you know, have the relationship that they have.

895
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure some of it's going to translate. I mean,

896
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: I don't think Wade Phillips needs that much help, but

897
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: every little bit helps, So didn't necessarily help last year.

898
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: But there's enough tape out there on Kirk Cousins anyway,

899
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: right that, even if this was a brand new staff

900
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: that just was born yesterday, I think you can come

901
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: up and figure out exactly what Cousins is and what

902
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: he can do. When pressured, his passer rating goes down, right, Yeah,

903
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: when when he's not it goes up, right. Yeah. I

904
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: think that's more glaring than just about any other quarterback

905
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: in the league playing right now, any other starter. Just

906
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: just that disparity from him. Yeah, when he's pressured, he's

907
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: a different guy. Okay, I mean he's an a and

908
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: it's look, he's got what I call burning building speed.

909
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: Burning building speed, anybody can run when the building's on fire.

910
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: So when he's scrambling, it's like he's scrambling because he's threatened.

911
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's I would call him a

912
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: mobile quarterback. But when threatened, he can get the hell

913
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: out of yes. Yeah, okay, yeah, but just know what

914
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: he does scramble like that, He's only scrambling for one thing,

915
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: to the sideline. He's not looking to extend the play. No,

916
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: he's a little bit different in that regard. Okay, but

917
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean he is looking to get as many rs.

918
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: Get what you're saying, and I agree with you. He

919
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: can scramble for a first down if he has to, right,

920
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: But for the most part, when you get him open

921
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: around in the pocket, you're going to keep him in

922
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: the pocket. Right. Yeah. The Vikings do have a couple

923
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: of injuries situations, and that's saying nothing of Everson Griffin,

924
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: who I think we both wish the absolute best too.

925
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: He's clearly going through a mental health crisis, and that's

926
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: something that you know, you just want him to get better.

927
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: This is the best possible outcome of that story. Just

928
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: imagine if it went the other way. Yes, yeah, yeah,

929
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: so this is good. Yes, yes, yes, yes, But just

930
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 1: dealing with the injuries Riley Reef. They're starting left tackle.

931
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: He has been out for the first two days of practice.

932
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: It's their practice estimates with a foot injury. So that's significant,

933
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: I think, especially when you're talking about pressure and pressure

934
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins. However, they're center Pat Elfline out of

935
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: Ohio States, second year guy. He is supposed to be

936
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: starting this week, so that is something that they can

937
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: look forward to. Another good center. I thought Poundcy was

938
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: great last week this past Sunday. Yeah, at negating some

939
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: of that pass for us, trying to do both and

940
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: they can do so much. You can do so much

941
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: with a good center, with a great center in the

942
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: run game and in the passing game. So that's gonna

943
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: help Kirk Cousins definitely with protections. Maybe some of the

944
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: blitzes that have been getting home won't get home because

945
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: they'll be on the same page along the offensive line.

946
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: But it's maybe it's still yeah, it's still something where

947
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: you have a center in a quarterback trying to establish

948
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: chemistry though, no doubt. And I see like everybody's trying

949
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: to establish chemistry on offense. Yeah. Absolutely. And they've got

950
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: a new play caller in John D. Filipost, So you've

951
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: got a new play caller, new quarterback trying to integrate

952
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: all of these different things together. And I think you

953
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: can see that in some of the way these early

954
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: games have gone. It reminds me of a typical Minnesota

955
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: Vikings offensive line. They're huge, they're mullers. When it's run,

956
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: it's run you can I mean, their fingers are all

957
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: on the ground and they're just their next re bulgion.

958
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: They can't wait to get out. And when it's pass,

959
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 1: it's the opposite. They're up and they're telling you it's past.

960
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 1: It's like an old Adrian Peterson offense, except without Adrian Peterson.

961
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: When's run its row, when as fast as pass, you

962
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: should see some of the sacks or the pressures they

963
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: get home. Like in the Green Bay game, you guys

964
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: run five six yards up the field, take a right,

965
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: hang around in the backfield, and still get the Kirk

966
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: Cousins like, Wow, you can't find a place to go

967
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: with the football. After that. Sure, Yeah, I mean that's

968
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: they're a little discombobulated, but I expect all that to

969
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: be gone tomorrow night. Yeah. Well, okay, you've brought up,

970
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: you know, green Bay pass rushers, and I did want

971
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: to bring this up with you, the amount of roughing

972
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: the passer falls. Where do you sort of align on that? Look,

973
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: what is being your view of the way these things

974
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: have gone, Because especially in that Green Bay game when

975
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews, in my view, does not really do anything

976
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: wrong right, and he gets flagged for fifteen yards as

977
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins throws a pick that would have effectively ended

978
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: that game. That to me, it's only in football, and

979
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: only on the defensive side to where you can ask

980
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: a guy to pick his shot. Okay, imagine being a

981
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: baseball player or asking a baseball player when you see

982
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: a fastball, you're only allowed to hit the bottom of

983
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: the baseball as it's coming at you right right, But

984
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: the pitcher can put it on your on your head

985
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: if he wants to. Right, No, man, just go play ball.

986
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: If they want to call roughing the pass, then so

987
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: be it. Eventually it will it will even itself out

988
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year, But just know what

989
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: you're living in now. And I wouldn't tell guys to

990
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: do anything different. Right, if you have a shot on

991
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback, take the shot, go ahead, Well let the

992
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: ref figure it out exactly. Yeah, And I think that's

993
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: what happened with Sue last week when Sue gets his

994
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: sack on Philip Rivers. I mean, in some official officials,

995
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: crews might have called that roughing the passer, even though

996
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers still has the ball right and he's trying

997
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: to do whatever he's trying to do. What is Sue

998
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: supposed Yes, oh, on the sack. I mean, I thought

999
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: Sue did a great job of not burying him, right,

1000
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: because when he went down, there's body waite. Sure, Sue's

1001
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: a big dude, but he kept his head out of it.

1002
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to actively show the officials, the

1003
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: umpire and the referee that you're not trying to bury

1004
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: the guy. So if you keep your head up, they

1005
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: may not call it. If you put your head down

1006
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: into the guy, even if you're not trying, they're gonna

1007
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: call it because it looks like you're putting all your

1008
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: body weight. I just I don't know, man, but to me.

1009
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: It's physics, right, Like, if you're trying to if you're

1010
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: going at full speed and you're trying to bring somebody down,

1011
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: which is literally the point of football, how are you

1012
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: supposed to then be able to say, oh my god,

1013
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: let me get my you know, well, it used to

1014
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: be a step. I mean, if you make contact with

1015
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: the quarterback when he has the football, they'll give you

1016
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: a step to run through and place him on the ground.

1017
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: And if you put the landing gear out, put your

1018
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: arms out and try not to put the body weight,

1019
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: you won't get the call. It just depends on what

1020
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: official you get that day, right, Yeah, I mean I've

1021
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: seen it was a year, a couple of years ago,

1022
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Michael Brockers did everything he could to avoid a roughing

1023
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: the passer hall and still got it. I mean he

1024
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: threw his body off to the side, like he slammed

1025
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: himself onto the turf to not land on the quarterback,

1026
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: and he's still got flagged for it. So it just

1027
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: depends on which guy you get. Yeah, I guess. So,

1028
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I think that they they're

1029
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: gonna have to do something about that. They will, I mean,

1030
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: you'll see, I just don't think it's fair to the

1031
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: defensive players. By November we won't be talking. But remember

1032
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: we started this year talking about the helmet rule. Yes,

1033
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: and we're talking about that less now, so everything will

1034
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: even itself out in this game. That's fair. Did you

1035
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: go back in watch last year's game against the Viking

1036
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: a little bit? Um? The only reason why I didn't

1037
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: is because the quarterback changed. The quarterback is definitely different,

1038
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: the offensive system is definitely different. Yeah, I mean it's

1039
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different. But you know, I've watched

1040
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: offensively against that defense and the things that were left

1041
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: on the table and the things they do well. So

1042
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: upfronts Lindvall, Joseph is huge. Yeah, Sheldon Richardson has been

1043
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: a great addition to that defensive line. He's a three

1044
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: technique that can win. I think he has seven pressures

1045
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: that leads all tackles right now, So he's the front

1046
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: runner in that category. And Hunter the left end is

1047
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: the real deal. This will be a hell of a

1048
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: test for Havenstein. This will be an absolute test for him. So, yeah,

1049
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: just watched a little bit of last season, but more

1050
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: so what they're doing this year. Yeah, I did. I

1051
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: went back and I watched it too, just you know,

1052
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: because there is two teams we're playing consecutive years, and

1053
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: for a lot of the things that there are, they

1054
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: are the same. Um, I guess you look at that

1055
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: game and it's interesting because so many players were left

1056
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: on the field for the Rams offense, and you know,

1057
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 1: you had a game by Cooper Cup which was probably

1058
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: his worst game of the season and what was a

1059
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: really terrific rookie year for him. And I asked him

1060
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: this week, you know, did you go back and watch

1061
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: it or did you burn it? And he laughed and

1062
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: it was like, no, you know, you go back because

1063
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: you want to see things that they were doing to

1064
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: try to attack you, and you know, you want to

1065
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: look at what you can do better. But you know,

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00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: I think what he ended up saying was the twenty

1067
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: seventeen Rams are not really about what the twenty eighteen

1068
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: Rams are. It's a different year, it's a different team,

1069
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: and the same with the Vikings. I hope that Minnesota

1070
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: is coaching off that tape good. Some of those personnel

1071
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: groups and formations are they're completely opposite this season. All

1072
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: they're sleep yeah, yeah, no doubt. It's like getting a

1073
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: new iPhone. Yeah, every time I see the iPhone billboard,

1074
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: I think, are you Yeah, I didn't get it. No,

1075
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to don't pull it. No, I don't

1076
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: want to see it. It's a telephone. Come on, it's

1077
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: a telephone and a camera. That's all it. Never mind anyway, Um,

1078
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: what are some keys that you think the Rams are

1079
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: definitely gonna have to do in order to beat the

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00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,479
Speaker 1: vent out Saturday X as the nose for a second,

1081
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: it is Thursday night football, So yeah, I think you

1082
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: have to expect mistakes. That's just the nature of Thursday

1083
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: night football. I don't care who you are. Everyone makes

1084
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: mistakes on Thursday. It's a short week. So what you

1085
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: have to actively train yourself to do is one snap

1086
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: and clear. Don't let that mistake cause another mistake, just

1087
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: move on from it. I think the team, and this

1088
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: sounds funny, this is you know this, the team that

1089
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: makes the fewest mistakes is probably gonna win. But there's

1090
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: going to be a lot, right yeah, and I would

1091
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: bet that Minnesota makes more. Well, if you're Minnesota, this

1092
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: is this is a really hard week and you know

1093
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: obviously that sort of works in the RAMS favor. But

1094
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: I think coming off a home game, at least you

1095
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: have that, but you have to travel two time zones

1096
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: and then you're also on a plane for three four hours.

1097
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: That's a lot on a short week to have to do.

1098
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: So Mike Zimmer was on the conference call with LA

1099
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: Media yesterday and he was saying that, look that he

1100
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: literally said this, there's not been a team on Thursday

1101
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: night football that's even covered the line when they have

1102
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: to go to time zones to play on Thursday night. Yeah,

1103
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: And I think it's just interesting when you have a

1104
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: head coach talking you about betting lines. You know, well,

1105
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean you're used to play in on Sundays at

1106
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: one and then you got to shift to Thursdays at night. Right,

1107
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: everything's a little bit different. So wonky, Yeah it is.

1108
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: So I mean, you can't let mistakes bother you move on.

1109
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: And going back to that Green Bay Minnesota game, Aaron

1110
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: Rodgers had that game. At the end, he was setting

1111
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: himself up for a field goal to win it. I

1112
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: think he bobbled a snap the play before and then

1113
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: he got sacked yea the next play and that kind

1114
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: of you could see it like he had the game

1115
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: in hand. They had it and he won that game,

1116
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: should have three times. So going to Thursday Night, when

1117
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to win this game and you

1118
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: have it in hand, don't give it back, right, Stay ahead,

1119
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: stay out in front, make fewer mistakes, and be professional

1120
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: when you do have the lead. And I would, I would,

1121
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: I would expect more ball control out of the offense

1122
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night. Yeah yeah, I mean you want the clock

1123
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: to keep moving in games like this, you do? Yeah? Yeah.

1124
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: Last year was interesting on Thursday Night football when the

1125
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: Rams went up to San Francisco and had that back

1126
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: and sort of slug fast and ended up winning that

1127
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: forty one to thirty nine. I think it was the

1128
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: final score. I don't necessarily think it's going to be

1129
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: that kind of game, but I think it's going to

1130
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: be tough for the Rams to put up points, just

1131
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: because the Vikings are going to be motivated as all

1132
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: hell after what happened to them last week against the Buffalo,

1133
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: And even though it's a short week, and even though

1134
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: you have to travel a lot, and even though you

1135
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: know you're dealing with a lot of stuff, I think

1136
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: the Vikings are going to play as the best defense

1137
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: the Rams have faced so far this year because they

1138
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: should be. I think I agree with you there. I

1139
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: think they're gonna come with a renewed effort, especially on defense.

1140
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: But just like anything else, if you stay efficient and

1141
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: keep them out there, they're gonna get worn out. The

1142
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: best thing about that defense, about Zimmer's defense is he

1143
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: trusts his guys. He really does. It's simplistic. It's a

1144
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: four three. I trust my guys, right, the calls aren't

1145
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: going to be so complicated. But the downside is he

1146
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: trusts his guys. I mean, you're asking a lot of

1147
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: defensive ends to have to play cutback and boot at

1148
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: the same time, which is what this offense is built on.

1149
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: So there's only so much you can trust. When you

1150
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: face an offense like that. At some point you're going

1151
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: to force his hand. He's gonna have to pressure, and

1152
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: when your pressure, you're gonna get beat faster. It'll be interesting, definitely.

1153
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: I think whether the Rams can get down the field

1154
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: as they did in some of those drives last year,

1155
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: but then finish, because that's that was the difference last year.

1156
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you add chances to score points and you

1157
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: just did not after that first drive. So if the

1158
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: Rams can finish drives and I think, as you're saying,

1159
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: plague ball control offense, they will have a good chance

1160
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: to win. Absolutely. I think my goal would be to

1161
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: win time of possession by a lot and absolutely wear

1162
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: down that defense because that's the best unit, that's their

1163
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: best part of the football team. You wear them down

1164
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: and wear them out. I think that could be it

1165
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: for them, especially on Thursday night. It's not usually a

1166
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVay thing, though, you know what's that winning time

1167
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: of possession like that he does. He takes those shot

1168
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: plays and he likes to get the chunk yardage, and

1169
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: they vary the tempos and go up tempo. I think

1170
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: he can evolve. I think he's smart enough to know definitely.

1171
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: Is he talked about the ego. I mean, I don't

1172
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: think he's a Chip Kelly type to where even if

1173
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: it's not working, you're gonna still go blindingly fast even

1174
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: though it's taxing your defense. I think he's in tune

1175
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: with everything that's going on. I should have put it

1176
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, they I think will and this is

1177
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: the way games seem to at least in my mind.

1178
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: The Rams get out in front in the first half

1179
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: by passing, by doing things off tempo by by burying

1180
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: tempos and doing things like that. But I think when

1181
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: you especially last week's game, they know how to play ball,

1182
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: control offense, no doubt win the game, right, Like when

1183
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: you're in the fourth quarter, you get it back at

1184
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: four twenty three and you just do run plays throughout,

1185
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: and yeah, you're able to win in that way. I

1186
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: think he's smart enough to know he gets paid by

1187
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: the win, not by the yard. Yeah. I think some

1188
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: guys lose sight of that or have lost sight of that. Yeah. Yeah,

1189
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: you don't get paid for five hundred yards to the offense.

1190
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: You get paid for winning the game. That is very true.

1191
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: Parting shots. No, that's about it. See you Thursday night,

1192
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: see a Thursday night. Yeah, what are you wearing? What

1193
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: time are you wearing? And everybody in the ties is

1194
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: it skinny tire wide tie? I don't know. I haven't

1195
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: decided yet. I can barely dress myself on a daily

1196
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 1: basis anyway, everybody, thanks so much for listening to this

1197
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: edition of Between the Horns. Kick Off on Thursday night

1198
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: will be at five twenty Pacific time. You can catch

1199
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: that game on Fox and also on NFL Network, or

1200
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: you can listen to the call with JB Long and

1201
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: mj D and this guy DeMarco far on ESPN LA

1202
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: enjoy the game.