Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bacheler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: I'm Joe, and we are live at the Bachelor Mansion
Speaker 2: for the iHeart event and we are here with Dean Kaylan.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, welcome to a Bachelor Happy Hour with Dean
Speaker 4: and Kaylen. We're here at the Bachelor match. You just
Speaker 4: did a.
Speaker 1: Much better job than I did the match.
Speaker 2: Okay, So for our listeners, I'm a little nervous. I'm
Speaker 2: off my game because it's the first time I've been
Speaker 2: back here since I got eliminated at night one.
Speaker 1: And it was just terrible experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, driving up in the van with Joe, it was
Speaker 4: so funny to look back and see him because he
Speaker 4: was sweating. I've never seen a man so wet from
Speaker 4: sweat before. Yeah, he was like last time I was
Speaker 4: here to go so well for me.
Speaker 1: So Dean's lying. We were not on the same season.
Speaker 4: I wasn't there for the season. But it was rough.
Speaker 4: It was rough.
Speaker 5: Well, neither fun Bag, neither Joe or I have ever
Speaker 5: spent a night at the Bachelor Mansion because I was
Speaker 5: COVID season. So we filmed at Nemacollin and Joe went
Speaker 5: home night one.
Speaker 6: So you didn't spend the night here either.
Speaker 7: Interesting and you two made it what you guys were
Speaker 7: both we were both dumped after they met our families.
Speaker 6: What does that say?
Speaker 3: Not good situations you guys.
Speaker 4: I got to say, though, as far as the place
Speaker 4: you can get dumped, it might be the best because
Speaker 4: you can placate the blame and be like, it's not
Speaker 4: my fault, it's I left after hometown. But you like,
Speaker 4: you left on your own accord.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did leave on my own accord, but same
Speaker 5: same timeline.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: That's a better way to leave.
Speaker 4: And you did kind of spend a night because you
Speaker 4: probably didn't get dumped until like six am.
Speaker 1: It was like eight. It was like eight am.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I remember I was standing outside and I
Speaker 2: was interviewing, and I think they wanted me to cry,
Speaker 2: and I was like, guys, I'm not going to cry.
Speaker 1: There's no way I'm going to cry. And then I
Speaker 1: left and I was so depressed.
Speaker 3: And then he cried, and then it.
Speaker 1: Was Saint Patrick's day in Chicago, so I went out.
Speaker 3: That's a good thing to come home to.
Speaker 6: Is like something fun. I feel like after going home,
Speaker 6: is your.
Speaker 4: Buddy's like rib you a bunch, because you probably would
Speaker 4: be like i'll be going, I'll be back in a
Speaker 4: month or two, and you're back the next day.
Speaker 2: I remember when I called my friend Eddie and his
Speaker 2: wife answered. She's like, oh my god, Joe, I got
Speaker 2: said home fucking night one.
Speaker 4: But it's so crazy because knowing you, like you're you're
Speaker 4: so handsome, and you're so charismatic and outgoing, and you're
Speaker 4: you're like, we got to talk to Becca, if we
Speaker 4: could call her, but it has been something that you like,
Speaker 4: something must have happened.
Speaker 7: Well, we were just in the living room and he's like,
Speaker 7: I stood right here and I said, no words, and.
Speaker 3: That's that was the problem.
Speaker 2: Well, I when I stepped out of Limmo, I just
Speaker 2: I couldn't speak. And I walked up to her and
Speaker 2: I couldn't speak, but I was but words were coming
Speaker 2: out of my mouth, but nothing made sense.
Speaker 4: It was all over the place.
Speaker 1: And then I was just like, hey, I'm super nervous.
Speaker 1: And then I just walked inside. But if she's like,
Speaker 1: this guy's so weird.
Speaker 4: If you came up to me and didn't say a word, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's making it to my top five, no question, But yeah, Okay, enough,
Speaker 4: enough about me, Let's stop talking about me.
Speaker 3: Oh that's the first time Jesse ever said that.
Speaker 2: That's not true, even though we did fan question yesterday
Speaker 2: and I feel like I was really killing it.
Speaker 6: You were doing a great job.
Speaker 4: All right, guys.
Speaker 1: How was How was the wedding? How was wedding planning?
Speaker 1: Who handled it?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 4: Me? Yeah, well yeah, yeah you did. You did a
Speaker 4: lot of the work. We had great wedding planners.
Speaker 7: Great wedding planners. I came up with a lot of ideas.
Speaker 7: But I was talking to someone today and she's like,
Speaker 7: your wedding looked beautiful. It was like, honestly, I had
Speaker 7: no idea how it was going to look like. We
Speaker 7: kind of went into it blind in terms of how
Speaker 7: they were going to decorate it, and they brought my
Speaker 7: pitch sport to life. So I'm super happy with that.
Speaker 5: We were kind of the same, like we had shown
Speaker 5: us like photos like flowers and signs. We're like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 5: like looks great, like whatever. We just kind of had
Speaker 5: like an overall vibe and vision that we wanteds Like
Speaker 5: walking in and seeing it for the first time, you're.
Speaker 4: Like, whoa, yeah, it's and even not being as included
Speaker 4: in the planning process. For me seeing it for the
Speaker 4: first time, it felt like I was like a guest
Speaker 4: at my own wedding. It was awesome. We would do
Speaker 4: something and then we go to the section that we
Speaker 4: just left and it was completely different. I'd be like,
Speaker 4: holy cow, this is amazing, and it was just so
Speaker 4: cool because I'm like, oh, everyone's here for me and Kaylin.
Speaker 4: But like I'm also being surprised every time I go
Speaker 4: to the next event for whatever it is, you know,
Speaker 4: So it was really fun from that aspect for me.
Speaker 3: Any bad surprises, no, no, yes, there's a bad surprise somewhere.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I was recapping the serena. There was like not
Speaker 7: a bad surprise. Everything was perfect. Everything was seamless. But
Speaker 7: you know, if people get drunk and make mistakes, and
Speaker 7: there was a mistake that happened tough.
Speaker 4: It was tough because we had like a certain bed limit.
Speaker 4: There was like seventy eight beds on the property that
Speaker 4: everyone was staying at, and every bed was accounted for.
Speaker 4: Is that what we're referring to? And there was one
Speaker 4: night where like one of the beds that was allocated
Speaker 4: to Kaylin's family got took by another guest that was
Speaker 4: like maybe partying too hard or something like that, and
Speaker 4: so I just turned into this thing of like that
Speaker 4: bed didn't belong to them and it was just one
Speaker 4: of those situations.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you do you think that you would have
Speaker 1: Would you have been okay without having a wedding?
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. You guys did the courthouse thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I would have loved that.
Speaker 1: I would have been okay with not having a wedding.
Speaker 1: But I will say, you're looking to be crazy.
Speaker 6: No, No, I know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: I loved our wedding. I actually really enjoyed it. I
Speaker 1: think like going away for a week the way we
Speaker 1: did was so much fun.
Speaker 4: Right, And I say I say that too, But the
Speaker 4: wedding weekend was the best weekend of my life, like,
Speaker 4: no questions asked, No, you hands down. Uh. So with that,
Speaker 4: with the hindsight of that, I would say like, I'm
Speaker 4: glad that we had the wedding and I'm glad that
Speaker 4: we were able to do all that and celebrate with everyone.
Speaker 4: But if you asked me before the wedding, I'd be like, no,
Speaker 4: let's just go to the courthouse right now and just
Speaker 4: sign the paperwork and just be husband and wife. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but there's something so special about like your everyone's there
Speaker 4: for you, guys. Everyone's are celebrating your love. And what
Speaker 4: I love too is like when I go to a
Speaker 4: party and I feel socially awkward because I'm like talking
Speaker 4: to someone in a corner that I don't really know
Speaker 4: that well. It doesn't happen at a wedding because you
Speaker 4: know everyone there so well, and so you don't get
Speaker 4: pulled into these random conversations that you don't really want
Speaker 4: to be part of.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I like that a lot. Very special. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that was the best moment for you, guys.
Speaker 6: That's hard, you know what, Actually I do know the
Speaker 6: best moment.
Speaker 5: I was very I wasn't stressed in like a oh
Speaker 5: my god, everything has to go perfect way. I was
Speaker 5: just really nervous the day of the wedding, like there's
Speaker 5: a lot of emotions flowing. You kind of want to
Speaker 5: like check everything off the list, like you gotta do
Speaker 5: the vows, and you got to do the speech and
Speaker 5: like all of these things. We finished our speech. We
Speaker 5: finished our speech with a shot with wells and the
Speaker 5: relief I felt in that moment of just like Oh
Speaker 5: my gosh, this day has been so perfect and I
Speaker 5: can like just enjoy it now and like there's nothing
Speaker 5: on the to do list anymore. We did the first dance,
Speaker 5: like all the things have been checked off and we
Speaker 5: can just party with our friends.
Speaker 6: Was an amazing feeling I got.
Speaker 4: I got to say too, sorry before you go, you're
Speaker 4: the thing that you posted about your vows, That's what
Speaker 4: it was. Legitimately the funniest thing I've ever heard of
Speaker 4: my entire life. So I did he come up with that?
Speaker 4: That's so good?
Speaker 1: That for so okay? So I I was once that joke.
Speaker 1: I was just worried.
Speaker 2: I was like, I just want to I just want
Speaker 2: this joke to land, because if it doesn't land, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna look like there's there's no way around that. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be where it's gonna be awkward. When we when
Speaker 2: we decided we were gonna get married, and then we're like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, why don't we ask Walls? I think that
Speaker 2: would be really special. We'd love it to be him,
Speaker 2: like he's been part of my journey basically the whole time.
Speaker 2: And then when he said yes, I think I came
Speaker 2: up with that joke. And that's that was a year
Speaker 2: before our wedding. I came up with that joke right
Speaker 2: after I asked him, and I was sitting in the
Speaker 2: living room. I'm like, oh, that would be so funny.
Speaker 4: And I wrote it, nailed it, and I gotta say too.
Speaker 4: It put a lot of pressure on me because you
Speaker 4: guys got married like a week or two before. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I saw you. I saw you post that, and
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, I gotta do something. I gotta
Speaker 4: get a laugh out of the crowd somehow because it
Speaker 4: was so good and I loved it. I loved it
Speaker 4: so much as just even like watching it on social
Speaker 4: media and I, yeah, it was just so funny.
Speaker 6: That's so funny.
Speaker 5: Because I had a few people be like, how did
Speaker 5: you feel about that joke? Because your reaction you were
Speaker 5: kind of like I couldn't really tell about your reaction.
Speaker 5: I was like, no, I knew this joke was coming.
Speaker 5: I didn't have a reaction because I had heard it
Speaker 5: for three hundred and sixty five days, so there was
Speaker 5: just no like practic shock value on my end. Like
Speaker 5: he asked me if it was, it was like, totally fine.
Speaker 2: I wish I didn't ask you but I just felt
Speaker 2: like if you would have been upset about that, it
Speaker 2: could have ruined like your special moment, and then I
Speaker 2: would have felt.
Speaker 5: No, I'm glad you asked me. I think it allowed
Speaker 5: me to like go into it like not thinking you
Speaker 5: were talking about me. I think I still would have laughed,
Speaker 5: but like, it's just hard to know how you're going
Speaker 5: to feel in that moment.
Speaker 1: Did you You guys had a tattoo artist at your wedding, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you did.
Speaker 7: We went back and forth for a while, but the
Speaker 7: guy he gave me my very first tattoo is like
Speaker 7: right near Aspen and it was it completed our couple's
Speaker 7: tattoo that Dean got two years before, and so I'm like,
Speaker 7: it's kind of perfect, and he was available.
Speaker 4: Matt completed though completed.
Speaker 7: He gave me the airplane.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. So yeah, So on like
Speaker 4: our fifth day or something, we were like, let's get
Speaker 4: matching tattoos. So stupid, don't recommend it. If you're listening
Speaker 4: to this one, don't do it. So we were like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I'll get a paraschooter and you can get an airplane
Speaker 4: because I like to skydive, and she likes to travel,
Speaker 4: so it kind of worked out and I go and
Speaker 4: I go first and get.
Speaker 7: Matching matching where it was like each other, but his
Speaker 7: parachute guy is supposed to be jumping out of my plane.
Speaker 3: But they can be their own things.
Speaker 4: And we wanted, you know, she had zero tattoos at
Speaker 4: this point, and so I go and get my little
Speaker 4: parachuter guy and she's like, I'm not getting a tattoo.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm like, what the are you talking about.
Speaker 7: So a week prior, he took me skydiving and I
Speaker 7: did the airplane. I went up in the airplane and
Speaker 7: then I just stood there.
Speaker 1: You ever have you ever just a year later with friends,
Speaker 1: now with me, I've done, I've skytied.
Speaker 4: It's great experience.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 4: I hate every second. I hate. It's a bad experience.
Speaker 3: Wait you didn't.
Speaker 1: I hate it all the way up and then all
Speaker 1: when I got down. I got down, I liked. I
Speaker 1: was like a twelve year old. I threw a fit
Speaker 1: like I was like this is horrible, Like I'm nauseous.
Speaker 4: I hated it.
Speaker 1: It was scary. I'll never do this again.
Speaker 4: I have not.
Speaker 5: My dad would never talk to and my parents were
Speaker 5: pretty relaxed parents. They didn't have like major, major rules
Speaker 5: growing up, but that was one of the like rules
Speaker 5: was like nothing with extreme heights, and I don't feel
Speaker 5: like passionate about it in any way that I would
Speaker 5: like my dad.
Speaker 3: Would like kill me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not worth it.
Speaker 3: No, it's not worth it.
Speaker 5: Like I was like, no, I feel called to jump
Speaker 5: out of a plane, like sure, but like I just
Speaker 5: don't feel that way at all, So I'll stick with ground.
Speaker 4: That's fair. Yeah, but you just jump yourself. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I've got like one hundred jumps or something like that.
Speaker 7: I did.
Speaker 3: I did. I forget what it's called, but I did.
Speaker 5: Like the skydiving simulators though, like in a in a tunnel, Yeah,
Speaker 5: in a tunnel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how you you practice doing that before you jump,
Speaker 4: so that way you don't get all distorted in the air.
Speaker 3: That was cool.
Speaker 1: Any scary moments, I've.
Speaker 4: Got like line twists, but it's pretty standard where you
Speaker 4: like you open your parachute and the lines get all
Speaker 4: twisted and you're just like spinning around and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I guess I'm gonna die, But then it straightened out
Speaker 4: and you're fine.
Speaker 7: Also, for your thirtieth birthday. Wasn't it your thirtieth birthday
Speaker 7: where I push you out?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was scary.
Speaker 4: She pushed me out of a hot air balloon for
Speaker 4: my thirtieth birthday, and she shoved me way harder than
Speaker 4: I was expecting. I did tell her to shove me.
Speaker 7: As pushed me as hard as you can, as hard
Speaker 7: as you possibly can.
Speaker 4: Pushed him so hard she pushed me. And the thing
Speaker 4: about a hot air balloon versus an airplane. Airplanes going
Speaker 4: one hundred miles an hour, so you have instant wind resistance,
Speaker 4: but out of a hot air balloon, you're zero miles
Speaker 4: an hour, and so it takes time for the wind
Speaker 4: it kick you, and so like you can orient it
Speaker 4: your body accordingly, and so I like was just flipping
Speaker 4: and flipping, and I was like, when am I going
Speaker 4: to stop flipping? Because there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 4: And so eventually you like straighten out and figured it out.
Speaker 4: There was one time we're getting really off topic here
Speaker 4: about sky fine. It was one time in Alaska. So
Speaker 4: we were skydiving under the Nali in Alaska. It was amazing.
Speaker 4: We were taking this this seaplane, Sessna up to like
Speaker 4: seven or eight thousand feet and jumping out of it
Speaker 4: over this frozen lake. It was the best experience of
Speaker 4: my life. And we would open the door and crawl
Speaker 4: out onto the float of the cessna to like stand
Speaker 4: on the float for a little bit before we jumped,
Speaker 4: just for the experience. But the door going one hundred
Speaker 4: miles an hour, it doesn't open, and like you can't
Speaker 4: get out, especially with a skydiving rig on your back,
Speaker 4: and so you get like snagged on your way out.
Speaker 4: And so I was like trying to get my way
Speaker 4: out of this door and I couldn't. And then I
Speaker 4: get out finally, and the door like slams into me
Speaker 4: and pushes me off the plane, and so I have
Speaker 4: to like run backwards on the float. And there's like
Speaker 4: a tail rotor or whatever you want to call it
Speaker 4: on an airplane, and so you have to like if
Speaker 4: that thing hits you, you're you're probably going to get decapitated.
Speaker 4: And somehow I squeaked between it, and it was in
Speaker 4: the moment like I didn't realize what had happened, but
Speaker 4: looking back the footage, I was like, oh, that definitely
Speaker 4: could have been the end of my life.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to bring this thing back to
Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise, a question that you guys have probably answered.
Speaker 1: I just want to know for myself. When you guys
Speaker 1: left Paradise, how long after did you know it was
Speaker 1: gonna work.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we got to ask this in a fan question.
Speaker 1: And yeah, actually answered this before. But it was like
Speaker 1: a moment where you're like, oh, this is this might go.
Speaker 4: I mean we've talked about it to ourselves, but I
Speaker 4: don't know where we talked about it.
Speaker 7: I probably knew sooner than Dean did, way sooner, and
Speaker 7: of like, going into the relationship, I thought it was
Speaker 7: going to end, like I because he dumped me on Paradise.
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, it's probably just gonna happen again.
Speaker 7: This isn't going to last. And then as a relationship
Speaker 7: progressed and as we kind of grew together, it took
Speaker 7: a couple months where I was like, wait, actually, maybe
Speaker 7: this could work.
Speaker 4: Come on, you knew it was going to work. The
Speaker 4: day that we left the Chance.
Speaker 7: I was so scared of you. I was like, he's
Speaker 7: going to break break up with me again. So I
Speaker 7: detached myself a little bit.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but you knew that you were like.
Speaker 6: If he was willing you, you were well, yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: the distance.
Speaker 1: Between you guys as far as like geography, where did
Speaker 1: you lived in Venice?
Speaker 4: Okay, was living in event Yeah yeah, but station out
Speaker 4: of Venice, I guess, so we were.
Speaker 7: Close out of my apartment.
Speaker 3: Yeahway, what about.
Speaker 4: Uh we had her speed bumps in the beginning of
Speaker 4: the relationship. We never did, so come on, bumps.
Speaker 1: It's actually been perfect our whole, our whole know, we
Speaker 1: did we did her. Her family was really.
Speaker 6: Struggled with the speed and usualness of it all.
Speaker 5: But internally, just in the relationship, no external factors, we
Speaker 5: did not have any speed.
Speaker 4: Bumps, which was crazy.
Speaker 3: Which was crazy.
Speaker 6: We were like, this is like they've been waiting.
Speaker 4: For it to come right, speaks of the engagement is fast. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you guys still took your time to get married.
Speaker 4: I feel like the engagement is just like a precursor
Speaker 4: to like now we're kind of dating with this, like.
Speaker 5: But we also had a different country aspect, we had
Speaker 5: like the age gap.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I always said, even when we got engage, I
Speaker 2: was like when we went to the hotel the next
Speaker 2: day and I was like, I'm taking this serious, but
Speaker 2: like we could break up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not like we're not like bound to each
Speaker 5: other after just because we did this, but we knew
Speaker 5: like ten days after leaving.
Speaker 4: I think, so, Yeah, there were some times that we
Speaker 4: might have broken up in the beginning stages, Like in
Speaker 4: the first six months, there was probably like two times,
Speaker 4: two or three times where we were like I never
Speaker 4: personally seriously considered it, and I'm sure she didn't even
Speaker 4: seriously consider it. But there were some things that we
Speaker 4: had to work through that if we didn't really know
Speaker 4: that we wanted to be together, we probably would have
Speaker 4: just been like whatever, let's just send this.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: But I think, yeah, yeah, so, But for me, I
Speaker 4: knew the moment I talked about this in my vows,
Speaker 4: actually the moment I fell in love with or not
Speaker 4: fell in love, but the moment I knew or at
Speaker 4: least like recognized that I was in love with her.
Speaker 4: I was on a ski trip in the Lasalles and
Speaker 4: southern Utah and we were like skinning up this huge
Speaker 4: mountain and skiing down it my brother's bachelor party. It
Speaker 4: was amazing, and we were all sleeping in this like
Speaker 4: little yur like ten of us and we were doing uh,
Speaker 4: we were just like drinking a lot and maybe a
Speaker 4: little bit mushrooms. I don't know if you guys can
Speaker 4: air that, so.
Speaker 3: Like probably not, So.
Speaker 1: It is a little bit.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like it wasn't a dramatic dose. But I
Speaker 4: remember it was like three am and We're going to
Speaker 4: bed and I'm like laying there. There's no cell phone
Speaker 4: reception or anything, and I like just didn't feel comfortable
Speaker 4: laying down. I was like sleeping on the floor and
Speaker 4: I just like couldn't go to sleep. And so the
Speaker 4: only thing that I could do to think, to like
Speaker 4: put myself at ease or my comfort myself was to
Speaker 4: scroll through photos of us and our dog and like
Speaker 4: her and like that brought me back to earth. And
Speaker 4: so that was kind of I woke up the next
Speaker 4: morning and I was like, oh shit, I love this girl.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Also, you were so jaded by all of the
Speaker 7: previous relationships.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm so try, I have so many and you
Speaker 4: were like, I.
Speaker 7: Absolutely will never get into another bachelor relationship again.
Speaker 4: And then yeah, yeah, I said that.
Speaker 2: I said that too, honestly. When we saw when you
Speaker 2: guys came down for our season, Oh, yeah, that like
Speaker 2: you guys.
Speaker 3: Were our engagement. Yeah, I was there that Actually sometimes.
Speaker 2: When I first saw you guys, that like like calmed
Speaker 2: me down like that actually like really helped me, Like
Speaker 2: oh my god, like yeah, that's they're cool and they're
Speaker 2: normal and this actually that kind of like is like
Speaker 2: I remember, I was like, Okay, I'm not.
Speaker 7: You're not.
Speaker 6: Because at the moment, you're like, am I so crazy
Speaker 6: right now?
Speaker 5: I mean, you guys didn't get engaged, but still like
Speaker 5: you were together and love and you're like you're so
Speaker 5: disconnected from the outside world and you're just like, am
Speaker 5: I just.
Speaker 6: In this bubble for sure? And I'm going to leave
Speaker 6: and be like whoa? So yeah, I do agree.
Speaker 5: Like seeing you guys, it was like okay, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: like I'm not totally insane like people other people have done.
Speaker 1: This too, and you guys are why this has.
Speaker 4: I gotta say too. I don't so I don't know
Speaker 4: Joe super well, but I do remember seeing him the
Speaker 4: day after you guys got engaged, and I went up
Speaker 4: to him and I was like, so, how are you feeling?
Speaker 4: And he looked at me down in the eye and
Speaker 4: he goes, Honestly, I've never felt bet like he's He
Speaker 4: was so confident. I was like, because you know, you
Speaker 4: and I are kind of in the same pathway of
Speaker 4: like we haven't had success relationships and so we're little cautious.
Speaker 1: We're right next to each other in seasons, like one
Speaker 1: then the other.
Speaker 4: Right like you're always a step behind, so it's not
Speaker 4: that big. But yes, but yes, And I remember you
Speaker 4: looked at me and you were so confident and so composed,
Speaker 4: and You're like, I one hundred percent confident in what
Speaker 4: I just did, And I was like, oh shit, I
Speaker 4: was not expecting to know that.
Speaker 7: Remember at breakfast too, like seeing the couples that got engaged,
Speaker 7: and like the way that they interacted and the way
Speaker 7: that you guys interacted was like super sweet, and you.
Speaker 4: Were like, yeah, you guys at breakfast, Yeah, like IU
Speaker 4: and downing every single couple.
Speaker 3: We were judging everyone.
Speaker 7: And the way that you like skipped away and and
Speaker 7: JA like you've been down and kissed your forehead or something.
Speaker 7: It was cute.
Speaker 4: It was pretty clear from us to see that, like,
Speaker 4: you guys were definitely in love.
Speaker 3: Except the engagement.
Speaker 7: And we've told you guys this where we thought you
Speaker 7: were going to break up with her watching because we
Speaker 7: didn't have.
Speaker 3: Like his body language sucks.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 1: I was panicking because I was like, what is in
Speaker 1: I had get?
Speaker 2: I was confident because I had given it so much
Speaker 2: thought because we do have a large age gap. And
Speaker 2: I was just like I don't want, like I don't
Speaker 2: want to fuck someone's life up because I'm reckless hair.
Speaker 2: So I really wanted to make sure that I was
Speaker 2: super confident. But when I was standing there, I was
Speaker 2: I was panicking.
Speaker 5: Well, I I'm so glad you said like you said
Speaker 5: that his body language was bad, because I'm reading my
Speaker 5: speech that you've prepared to like.
Speaker 1: Pour your they just dropped my accent. I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that obviously, So I'm like poor in
Speaker 5: my heart, I think it's this like fun, beautiful day.
Speaker 5: He's not looking at me, he's sweating, he's fidgeting.
Speaker 6: I think I was sweating so bad any other situation.
Speaker 6: But I was just like so thrown off. I didn't
Speaker 6: know what to do. I would have stopped him and
Speaker 6: like are you good?
Speaker 5: Like I can sitder, stopping my speech multiple times to
Speaker 5: be like do you want to look at me?
Speaker 3: Like are we Okay, are you breaking up with me?
Speaker 6: Like what is happening?
Speaker 5: Like I'm getting terrible, terrible energy from me right now
Speaker 5: and I'm trying to like pour my heart out like
Speaker 5: this is this is not a great moment. And then
Speaker 5: once you went, I was like, this is all pieces together.
Speaker 5: I understand what's happening now.
Speaker 4: It was from our perspective because we didn't hear anything.
Speaker 4: All we could do.
Speaker 6: It sucks that they didn't give you guys any like
Speaker 6: headphones or anything.
Speaker 4: Right, So the whole time, we're like, we're pretending, like nope,
Speaker 4: and I'm talking for Joe and she's talking for you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we were.
Speaker 7: We were pretending you know what you guys were saying
Speaker 7: down on a knee and we're like, oh my, And
Speaker 7: he's like, I'm sorry, Serena.
Speaker 3: Wait, I'm now.
Speaker 4: Going to propose I agree like the whole bringing, you know,
Speaker 4: not to dole on that, but up bringing like the
Speaker 4: X thing down is that's what.
Speaker 7: Wait, so you didn't know you were speaking and then
Speaker 7: he didn't tell you until he started speaking.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's how he started starting.
Speaker 1: I started and said, I want to let you know
Speaker 1: my ex was just here.
Speaker 5: Usually I would have been like, you didn't need to
Speaker 5: tell me in that moment, But he actually did need
Speaker 5: to tell me that moment because he was acting so
Speaker 5: bizarre that that. But at the time that gave me
Speaker 5: enough of a reason to be like, okay, he's not
Speaker 5: breaking up with me.
Speaker 3: And then when you propose, I was like, oh no,
Speaker 3: this is why you're acting. You are ringing in.
Speaker 6: Your back pocket.
Speaker 2: I'm socially awkward and I'm nervous and I'm I have
Speaker 2: a ring in my pocket.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to say yes, it
Speaker 1: was brutal. Okay, let's talk about back to you guys.
Speaker 4: In three days believing for Tanzania.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long?
Speaker 7: Like a week and half?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Like eight days, eight nine days. It actually worked
Speaker 4: out incredibly well. So we've been planning this. I tell
Speaker 4: a story and every time I tell it, you get
Speaker 4: you always give me a look as if I shouldn't
Speaker 4: be telling it.
Speaker 7: Well because you tell it weird?
Speaker 4: Do you want to tell it? No? You tell So
Speaker 4: we always wanted to do a sofar in Africa, whether
Speaker 4: it be like start in South Africa and go somewhere else,
Speaker 4: go to Tanzania, whatever it might be. But it's tough
Speaker 4: to get out there on a budget. And I love
Speaker 4: traveling on a budget. She is a little bit more.
Speaker 4: You like to travel comfort, I like luxury. You like comfort, comfort,
Speaker 4: and I I don't.
Speaker 3: Also like luxury, Kalan.
Speaker 4: And so it's hard for us to travel. Not hard,
Speaker 4: but we always have disagreements. She wants to apply first class.
Speaker 4: I want to be in the cheapest seat forward first class. No,
Speaker 4: no one can. I don't even understand how they price
Speaker 4: those first class tickets. This is crazy, is crazy, it's sane.
Speaker 4: It's like legitimately insane. So we wanted to do a
Speaker 4: honeymoon in South Africa, uh, and we were talking about
Speaker 4: it for a long time, but then we wanted to
Speaker 4: buy a house in Colorado, and so we're like, well,
Speaker 4: for buying a house, we can't afford a honeymoon. And
Speaker 4: so it was just going to be like this weird
Speaker 4: back and forth and then eventually National Geographic reach out
Speaker 4: to us and they're like, we're going to lead a
Speaker 4: trip to Tanzania for a safari. Do you guys want
Speaker 4: to come or does Dean want to come? And I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, one hundred percent, can my wife come
Speaker 4: with me? And they're like yeah, one hundred and so
Speaker 4: it was this weird thing where like we wanted to
Speaker 4: go there, we were going to pay for a trip
Speaker 4: out there, and then.
Speaker 7: That's exact dates we were going to go to Namibia
Speaker 7: and then Tanzania is is fairly is it north just north,
Speaker 7: it's like northeast of South Africa. Yeah, yeah, well Namibia
Speaker 7: is a different country.
Speaker 4: I thought you're talking about.
Speaker 7: But it was just crazy. It's like exactly what we wanted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so and and they were like, well fly
Speaker 4: first class and I was like, yeah, this is our
Speaker 4: Honeymoon's amazing to go.
Speaker 7: With like all of these insane photographers that nat Geo
Speaker 7: deems incredible photographers, is going to be so cool for
Speaker 7: us to learn from me, especially because I'm not as
Speaker 7: good as Deem.
Speaker 4: But that's not true at all.
Speaker 7: Oh, it's very true. But I'm excited. I think it's
Speaker 7: going to be a cool So.
Speaker 4: Yes to your question, We're going on our honeymoon in
Speaker 4: three days to Tanzania.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1: We went. We went to Italy. Oh nice, I wish
Speaker 1: we would have did something like Africa, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know, Florence, and then like it was the country really.
Speaker 7: Is the perfect like Como Tuscany.
Speaker 4: We did an Italy trip year or two ago and
Speaker 4: it was maybe the best tape of our lives.
Speaker 7: For me is oh, it's so beautiful.
Speaker 4: Yes, it might be the coolest place I've ever been to.
Speaker 7: Ive it's our favorite place, I think it since we
Speaker 7: stayed at the bougie hotel?
Speaker 3: Did you say that entirely?
Speaker 7: In Tuscany the Mandarin or we stayed at the Mandarin
Speaker 7: in like come.
Speaker 4: Video. It was great? Is that what you say?
Speaker 5: No, we said nice, but we wanna we want to
Speaker 5: like stay at the Mandrain and it looks really nice.
Speaker 7: And then in Tuscany it was our friend's birthday and
Speaker 7: her her dream was to go to Belmont and they
Speaker 7: just have beautiful We say you stay at the Yeah,
Speaker 7: really went so much on the hotel room.
Speaker 6: Yeah, where.
Speaker 1: The castle, Yeah that's the one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's where Kim Kardashian was proposed to.
Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian and Justin.
Speaker 7: Like this is the place where no, Justin proposed to
Speaker 7: Haley out of Belmont, but not that Belmont.
Speaker 4: Yeah. We got there as my friend's birthday and his
Speaker 4: mom covered their room and all that stuff, and we
Speaker 4: get there and we didn't have a reservation. I was like, hey,
Speaker 4: can we get a room for the night like our
Speaker 4: friend's birthdays tonight and they're like, yeah, we only that
Speaker 4: credit card. I only have sweets available, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: how much is that? And it was like two grand
Speaker 4: or something night at a hotel. It was crazy. It
Speaker 4: was one night.
Speaker 7: It was one night, but it was the best of
Speaker 7: my life. And we did a cooking class there. It
Speaker 7: was it was the latest hotel we've ever stayed at.
Speaker 3: It was incredible, and it was our honeymoon.
Speaker 5: So we were like, we're going for three nights for
Speaker 5: a ball and honestly, we really enjoyed it.
Speaker 7: It was amazing. Again, it was one night, and to
Speaker 7: have all of your wealthy friends standing there as you
Speaker 7: like hear the the number, You're like, yeah, just wipe
Speaker 7: my card.
Speaker 4: Was a little so yeah, yeah, yeah. This shadows looking
Speaker 4: right in the eyes.
Speaker 3: And I were just standing there staring, are you going
Speaker 3: to do it?
Speaker 4: You're actually right? We were fear. Pressure was pressure at least,
Speaker 4: like Chad was looking at me and I was like,
Speaker 4: Chad's gonna think so much lesson, don't do.
Speaker 3: This down the street.
Speaker 4: I was going to sleep.
Speaker 2: All right, well, I can't wait to see your photos
Speaker 2: and your videos from your honeymoon. I have to wrap
Speaker 2: the podcast because we are out of time, but Dean Caitlin,
Speaker 2: thank you guys so much for coming on.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much. You want to plug your podcast?
Speaker 7: No, okay, thank you so much for having us on
Speaker 7: your Make sure you listen to Hope we suck it.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, there's no reason don't listen to.
Speaker 4: We're just having you guys. Have a nice day. Bye bye.