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<v Speaker 1>Everybody here in Chicago hoballs Well, this is Bears All Access.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jeff Chariaker, brought to you by IGF editor MC

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast partner from news radio seven eighty one oh five

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<v Speaker 1>point m w BBM. Chicago Bears Super Bowl winning guard

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Fair. How did that Super Bowl go for you? Buddy? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun. I enjoyed it. Um. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to go to a charity event before a puppy

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<v Speaker 1>ball kind of related deal and got to see some

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite companions, which are puppies, and as long

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<v Speaker 1>as they all get adopted, and then you know you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of watched the game with a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>envy after we've had an opportunity to play in the

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<v Speaker 1>game and win it, but also broadcast the game and

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<v Speaker 1>lose it. You know exactly what each team is going through,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know you think you're gonna kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sneak through the week. And then also I get a

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<v Speaker 1>call from your good buddy Dave Logan and Denver that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants me to come on to a show out

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<v Speaker 1>there to talk about the Bears. So I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not only a local subject a local topic. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a topic that everybody at the puppy event to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people in Denver that are should be worrying

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<v Speaker 1>about hiring their own coaching staff are concerned about what

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears are going to do and what they're thinking. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>you just covered three topics right off the beat. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into those, Jim Miller from Serious x

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<v Speaker 1>M NFL Radio is moving the chains. Will come and

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<v Speaker 1>join us at around six ten. We'll also be joined tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear from John Hook, the bears new cornerbacks and

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<v Speaker 1>passing game coordinator, good friend of ours back with the organization,

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<v Speaker 1>who's here from two thousand and twenty fourteen. He'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back after a couple of years in Atlanta. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll also be jong by Brad Spielberger that will be

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<v Speaker 1>fine to talk finance is the business season of football

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<v Speaker 1>from Pro Football Focus and over Thecap dot Com. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>be joining us as well, coming up in the six

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<v Speaker 1>ten hour. All right, So you picked up the baton

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<v Speaker 1>for me, okay, Dave Logan, you know they did. They

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<v Speaker 1>texted me and I forgot to call him back. So

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for picking me up, buddy. I just remember

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<v Speaker 1>because you know what, I honestly don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it right now, because it is we are

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<v Speaker 1>hours removed from the end of this season, Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>wins the Super Bowl and we are onto the Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we talk about last week time? Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>said this is the center of the football universe from

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<v Speaker 1>this day forward. What can all right? Can you can

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<v Speaker 1>sit there right now in that chair and you can

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<v Speaker 1>say the Bears will definitely not trade justin fields. And

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<v Speaker 1>he caused down the table because that's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>topic that opened the door for Denver between Chicago to

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<v Speaker 1>open up a little bit of conversation because people that

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to outside the Bears are more concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>the rumor mill of the Bears thinking about trading justin

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<v Speaker 1>fields when it seems like they finally got it in place.

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<v Speaker 1>They got the quarterback, they got the offensive coordinator back

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<v Speaker 1>on board, and that relationship is so important in the

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<v Speaker 1>second year development of a quarterback that it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it's too much of a topic of interest. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this. I was on a podcast this week with

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Johns and Adam Hogue and they asked me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the most significant development of the postseason, even

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<v Speaker 1>though we've just started, is the retainment of Luke getzeeing

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive staff for justin fields, because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see that change, and you know there are We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into it. Jim Miller later on of the program.

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<v Speaker 1>The number of offensive coordinator positions open and Eric b.

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<v Speaker 1>Enemy apparently is the new Washington commander's offensive coordinator, but

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<v Speaker 1>the movement at that position jobs still open. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>there are five offensive coordinator positions still open in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the most difficult thing to fill in the NFL? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It depends a lot on the quarterback. You

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<v Speaker 1>have the supporting defensive staff. You know, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Eric b. Enemy now going from having

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best quarterbacks in the history the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and the short term going into a team that has

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<v Speaker 1>a lower drafted quarterback that's kind of in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the front of the line right now, with very

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<v Speaker 1>little certainty. So you think about the decision where you're

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<v Speaker 1>going with offensive coordinators, there's so many factors that come

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<v Speaker 1>into place that you have to take into account that

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not a foregone conclusion. Oh, if you know

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<v Speaker 1>there's eleven guys on offense and you know how to

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<v Speaker 1>move the football around, you can be an offensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the case. You have to meet. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to match the offensive coordinator with the talent. Part two

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<v Speaker 1>of that is losing the two thousand and six Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>And thankfully, I guess this is a two pronged problem. One,

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<v Speaker 1>you won the Super Bowl at eighty five. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go back, so you never lost one. But the losing

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<v Speaker 1>of a super Bowl and the impact of that on

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<v Speaker 1>your organization, the feeling of it is significant. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're watching that Super Bowl and watching it unfold, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a tremendous game. I thought it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>was an outstanding game. I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are saying it's one of the best ever. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot of super Bowls. I can't put

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<v Speaker 1>it in that category. It was fantastic. But the loss

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<v Speaker 1>of a Super Bowl and what it does to you

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<v Speaker 1>as a player and eats away at you as an organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you get to the NFC Championship Game and

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<v Speaker 1>lose that, the trickle down effect of that which you

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<v Speaker 1>have felt is really difficult to overcome, not only individually

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<v Speaker 1>but as a team in an organization. Town Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>will say losing the NFC Championship Game as an active

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<v Speaker 1>player to the San Francisco forty nine ers is the

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<v Speaker 1>most difficult actual player loss that I've ever had in

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<v Speaker 1>my career. But then you look at going through the

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<v Speaker 1>loss and just the emotions that you go through after

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<v Speaker 1>losing Super Bowl as a part of an organization, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what part you are, from equipment manager to broadcaster

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<v Speaker 1>to chef to you know, security director. All Right, Puppy Bowl,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta tell me about it. You are the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>dog fan I've ever seen in my life. They are

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<v Speaker 1>like little children for you, no question about it. You're

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<v Speaker 1>three dogs. So tell me what you did on Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl Sunday. No. I went down to a place on

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<v Speaker 1>downtown Chicago. Was on Fullerton Street and got the name

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<v Speaker 1>is skipping me and I feel bad because it was

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<v Speaker 1>a great place. But they had a big outdoor part

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<v Speaker 1>and the dogs are friendly all year round to go

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<v Speaker 1>there to the patio. But then they had a number

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<v Speaker 1>of dogs that were up for the adoption agency in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears marketing department put together a event that was

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by the puppy Bowl but also had access to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, donating money to the facility for adoptive pets,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was really neat um and um it

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<v Speaker 1>was a cool location. And yeah, I brought my uh

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<v Speaker 1>one of my great nephews, John Henry, and oh he

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<v Speaker 1>probably loved it, picked up and put it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>petted puppies and you know some of them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're sad stories behind him, but it's awesome how gracious

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<v Speaker 1>the people are that come and adopt him. What did

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<v Speaker 1>you think of the game? I thought it was a

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<v Speaker 1>good game, I thought for sure, and I if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad I'm not a betting man, because I thought Philly

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna win the game for sure. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>amazed of the fumble that uh, Justin Jalen had when

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<v Speaker 1>he was switching the ball from his left hand to

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<v Speaker 1>his right and then when he lost control of it,

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<v Speaker 1>how he kicked it forward and then the game was

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<v Speaker 1>wide open from that point on. The biggest kick in

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<v Speaker 1>the game wasn't the midst of the first field goal.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest kick in the game was the boot by

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts that put it into a position that since

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City could re cover it, returning for a touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>and get right back in the game. Emphasizes once again

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<v Speaker 1>because we all felt after playing them and losing twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five twenty in that game a soldier field and as

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<v Speaker 1>we find out, Jalen hurt says, hey, he really messed

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<v Speaker 1>up his shoulder in that game. How difficult it is

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<v Speaker 1>to win the bundle? Forget about all the Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>New England years. They had something going on. The Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>from the seventies, they had something unique going on. Teams

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<v Speaker 1>that have gone back to the Super Bowl after missing

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a couple of back to backs, but boy is

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<v Speaker 1>it hard to win. We both felt the Eagles with

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<v Speaker 1>the most balanced team in football, I did you know?

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<v Speaker 1>And going back and look at the analytics and the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers of the eighty five Bears and this Philadelphia Eagles team.

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<v Speaker 1>They were super similar and then you just look at

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers that stood out about their ability for their

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<v Speaker 1>defense to get sacks and they were held sackless. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the biggest telling of the game was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the offensive performance of the Kansas City offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>They were great, Hell, they were great. The right tackle

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome, and so you know, Handsas City was super

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<v Speaker 1>creative when they got a turnover and they got down

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<v Speaker 1>inside the red zone. Oh my gosh, creativity. Creativity where

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<v Speaker 1>they had you know, uncovered or you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>receivers going into the end zone. Yeah, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>this too. The offensive line. You know, let's from keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind Ryan Pull's general manager of the Bears, had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to do with putting together that offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>He was kind of the guy behind it all in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of draft and putting the thing that that thing

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<v Speaker 1>together And I know I texted him this week about

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<v Speaker 1>that and he just gave a thumbs up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that was an impressive performance by you know, that defensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about eight to ten deep and the quick

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<v Speaker 1>passing game and Patrick Machomes adjusting and morphing into what

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<v Speaker 1>you need to morph into regardless of what your capabilities

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<v Speaker 1>and traits are as a player and as an offense

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<v Speaker 1>as a team, they got rid of the ball quick

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<v Speaker 1>and used the short passing game to their advantage. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was. It was impressive, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 1>A big reverse field punt retire, Oh, which was an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing day. Yeah. You know, Dave is a great coach

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<v Speaker 1>and just some pure athleticism on display to get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball down within the five yard line. The longest longest

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<v Speaker 1>punt return in Super Bowl history. Yes, and that always

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<v Speaker 1>amazes me to all these benchmark moments in games. The

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<v Speaker 1>longest punt return in Super Bowl history. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>think you've seen it all, but you never do in sports,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. Coming up next, we'll be joined by

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<v Speaker 1>our friend Jim Miller, who is at the game. We

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<v Speaker 1>can talk more about that. Also, a new day is

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<v Speaker 1>done for the Bears franchise with its open letter announcement

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<v Speaker 1>closing on the three hundred and twenty six acre Arlington

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<v Speaker 1>Park property. We'll talk about that all coming up next

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<v Speaker 1>with Tom There. I'm Jeff Joniac here on Chicago Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Radio six seventy the Score. Welcome back everybody to Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>Serious XM NFL Radio is moving the chains, and also

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Spielberger from Pro Football Focus. He is a salary

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<v Speaker 1>Cap analyst contributor as well to over Thecap dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>a former Minnesota Banking's legal intern and Vanderbilt a lum

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<v Speaker 1>to Lane Law. A lot on the schedule for both guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim first Salo at Super Bowl with something else. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you love it? Yeah, what a great week, So Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>toomm gonna be with you guys. Yeah, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>great Super Bowl, great game and just very competitive and

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<v Speaker 1>what can you say? Kansas City got it done. They

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<v Speaker 1>made they made the most place and certainly you know

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<v Speaker 1>everybody talked about in the trenches. You give up no

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<v Speaker 1>sacks against that group, whether it's footing. But both teams

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<v Speaker 1>had had to play in that but they made the

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<v Speaker 1>plays that were necessary to get the win and couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be really shut out offensively that whole second half against

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good defensive Philadelphia. So all the way around,

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<v Speaker 1>a great game. All right, we will get in depth.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to talk about the field. Want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a couple of things about the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>later in the program. But you know, at the game,

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<v Speaker 1>men's celebrate the Chiefs. But Brad Spielberger, I keep saying

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<v Speaker 1>it over and over again. Tom and I We've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing this a long time. Jim's been a Bear, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's we have a lot of invested here. We have

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<v Speaker 1>never seen what's about to trans form this franchise. Then

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<v Speaker 1>here in twenty twenty three with the salary, cap space

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<v Speaker 1>and the number one pick on the draft and what

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<v Speaker 1>all that means. Welcome to the program, first time with us.

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<v Speaker 1>You do a great job. But Bears fans are in

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<v Speaker 1>a word you for it, Brad, and should they be

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for having me. I appreciate the intro,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, they really should. I mean you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it being stored for the Chicago Bears. It's a stored

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<v Speaker 1>for any team to have this many resources going into

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<v Speaker 1>the offseason, extra draft capital from the trades of Roclan

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and Robert Quinn, the number one overall pick and

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four million dollars in cap space, they could set

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<v Speaker 1>up the next five years, ten years of the team

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<v Speaker 1>potentially with the big offseason, you know, brand I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>this to our director of Research and Statistics, Doug Colletti

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<v Speaker 1>has been with us for thirty six years, a banker

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<v Speaker 1>by trade. Buddy does this for fun and helps us

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<v Speaker 1>out with our statues in every week in our booth.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mentioned to him this week about the next

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, and I had to reel it back a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit because you hit the nail on the head.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really five years when you look at the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles transforming their roster, keeping some key elements of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and doing it in two and a half years. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>this league now has become the next five years. But

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<v Speaker 1>it is it is a keystone moment depending on what

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<v Speaker 1>you get just safe for example, you get your next

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<v Speaker 1>great pass rusher, your next great cornerstone offensive lineman, or

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<v Speaker 1>a alpha male on that offensive line, or a great

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<v Speaker 1>corner you know, yes, you these guys will be here

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<v Speaker 1>possibly eight to ten years, but really, in reality, it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the next five years. But it is transformation. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the range we're looking at here this kind of offseason, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, I mean, especially in the free agency you're

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<v Speaker 1>usually looking at, you know, three four year solutions at

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<v Speaker 1>past But then like you said those draft is, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you do land that blue chip player that sticks around

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<v Speaker 1>for a very long time, hopefully playing with Justin Fields

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<v Speaker 1>for a very very long time. But the key for

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason as well is, you know Justin Field going

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<v Speaker 1>into the third year of his rookie contract, can you

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<v Speaker 1>build a contender before hopefully, as we're all hoping, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he gets a huge payday. So there's a short window

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<v Speaker 1>and a long term window and play here. You know, Brad,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the positions at the Bears need most

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at free agency. Do you have a

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<v Speaker 1>dedicated amount of money that you would want to spend

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain position to consider an upgraded or is

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of fly by the seat of your pants.

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<v Speaker 1>If this guy unusually becomes a valuable you got to

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<v Speaker 1>take a shot at him. I do think it is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of touch and go. You have to a plan

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<v Speaker 1>in place. If you're gonna splash on a certain player,

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe you pivot elsewhere. But you know, one specific example,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say to Ron Payne, the interior defender in Washington

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<v Speaker 1>does not get franchise tagged. I unfortunately think he will.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's say he doesn't, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>a really really good young player that can transform the

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<v Speaker 1>tior of your defensive line, which you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bit of a week spot for the

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<v Speaker 1>team this past year. You kind of have to rite,

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<v Speaker 1>you say, hey, we have all these resources available. Players

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<v Speaker 1>like this don't really hit the market very often. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's a guy I think he's getting, you know, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars a year, potentially maybe even more. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coming off one of the best seasons of his career,

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<v Speaker 1>first double digits back season, can play nose tackle, can

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<v Speaker 1>play three technique. You know, it's a really really good

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<v Speaker 1>young player. Well, brave, go ahead. I'm sorry, all right, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, Jim. Well, I'm just gonna as Brad. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen teams go from worse to first. Obviously Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 1>would be a team last year. But I want to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on Cincinnati because they were targeted. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>signed Trey Hendrickson, they added Mike Hilton, they drafted Jamar Chase,

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<v Speaker 1>and here they went worse to first and went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. But you can't just be some drunken

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<v Speaker 1>sailor out there. You know, when you have ninety four

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars, it's got to be targeted, right, Maybe just

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<v Speaker 1>touch on that of areas to target like Tom was

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about No. One hundred and ten percent. I

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<v Speaker 1>think my favorite thing Ryan pol has ever said of

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<v Speaker 1>all of his press conferences. We's about how free agency

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<v Speaker 1>is not how you build a roster. It's through draft

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<v Speaker 1>and develops. Free agency is for some you know, mid

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<v Speaker 1>tier signings, adding depth, adding rotational pieces. Again, anyway, this

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<v Speaker 1>funny situation, maybe you do make a bigger mover too,

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<v Speaker 1>but you couldn't be more right. It's about those mid

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<v Speaker 1>tier deals, those mid tier guys, that's where you typically

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<v Speaker 1>win in free agency. You mentioned Trey Hendrickson, Mike Hilton,

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<v Speaker 1>great examples of Von Bella safety for the Bengals, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can go on and on know Woose the either

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<v Speaker 1>outside corner. None of those guys broke the bank. They

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<v Speaker 1>were all you know, mid tier to upper mid tier signings.

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<v Speaker 1>But they make a huge impact if you then also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hit on the draft and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>save those big, big deals for your internal players that

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<v Speaker 1>you hopefully develop into superstars. Hey, Brad, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the combine coming up. So does Ryan Poles have

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<v Speaker 1>a booth fair having interest from every one of the

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<v Speaker 1>gms in the league to peak there, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>to peak their interest about what they think about the

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<v Speaker 1>first pick in the draft or is it? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know as it do you take a subtle approach

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<v Speaker 1>and try to you know, sync into the free a

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<v Speaker 1>jim market a little bit to see what veterans could

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<v Speaker 1>come aboard immediately and help your team. No, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great question. You should just set up shop in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the place and is that right? Everyone come

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<v Speaker 1>in and give you your highest bit for this first

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<v Speaker 1>overall pick. That would be a great set up. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do I think this is really when conversations start

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<v Speaker 1>about free agencies and of course you know, can't be

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<v Speaker 1>tampering or anything like that, but you can get a

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<v Speaker 1>feel for maybe which players are available, how the market's

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<v Speaker 1>going to play out. You know, you know which players

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, view as scheme fits or team fits

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason, culture otherwise, and you start to get

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<v Speaker 1>a feel for the market at large. Because even though

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<v Speaker 1>every deal is of course unique and it's it's in

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<v Speaker 1>its own right, you know, those things impact each other. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>If you know certain players are not interested in going

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<v Speaker 1>into your city or not interesting going to other cities

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that, it can kind of sway the

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<v Speaker 1>values because you get a better understanding of the entire

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<v Speaker 1>market at large. All right, Brad, I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you a question about Aaron Rodgers now or later.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think when you really you think about the money,

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<v Speaker 1>and you think about the future, and you think about contracts,

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<v Speaker 1>and you think about the uncertainty of the individual himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that money movable or is it money that we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of all, you know, silly to think that he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be anywhere else but Green Bay. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is movable. But I think it'll be interesting there is

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<v Speaker 1>at the trade compensation. I don't think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be as much as people expect. Like we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to see the Russell Wilson trade two point zero. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the guys that sixty million dollars just for next

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<v Speaker 1>season and a new team to say, hey, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring this guy in for maybe and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>one year sixty million then he potentially retired. Now, they can't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make him sign a I promised to play

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<v Speaker 1>two plus years or whatever. But so that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>think it happens. I'll say this though, I do think

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay wants to move on. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>the off season to do it because if they keep him,

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<v Speaker 1>these financial penalty is actually worse next year to move

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<v Speaker 1>on from him than it is this year. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really really do Maybe I'm just an optimistic Bears fan,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do think he's going to be on a

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<v Speaker 1>different team next year. Well, it's interesting because he's in

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<v Speaker 1>the dark, and it sounds like that Bob mc an

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<v Speaker 1>article that came out today was in the light. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if Aaron knows that what's been reported,

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<v Speaker 1>but it should be interesting all the way around for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears. As you mentioned having that one number one

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<v Speaker 1>overall pick for sale. You know, where does it start

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<v Speaker 1>with quarterbacks? It could be the Texans that maybe want

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<v Speaker 1>to trade up from two to one. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>the Colts at four. Basically Jim Ersey, owner of the Colts,

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<v Speaker 1>came out and said, hey, they're they're looking to develop

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<v Speaker 1>a young quarterback. He got the Raiders at seven, the

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons at eight. I mean, what is fruitful for the

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<v Speaker 1>Bears if they do decide to trade down to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's not too far down to get the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that they want to get, you know, if it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback that they're thinking about. Obviously, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Colts GM could bowed. Almost had whiplash when you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of look over at er say saying, you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? Why are you giving out showing

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<v Speaker 1>our cards? You know? But I think that is the mark, right,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you have two teams in the a F

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, mccolts and Texans, and if they both are

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<v Speaker 1>in love with Bryce Young hypothetically, then you convince Indianapolis

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<v Speaker 1>to jump up to one. And of course Chris Ballard

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<v Speaker 1>and run Polls work together in Kansas City. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of connections, there are a lot of relationships, and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then in theory, you still could get Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Carter from Georgia or Will Anderson from Alabama. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is their ideal scenario. I know fans don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to trade beyond I don't want to go to seven

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<v Speaker 1>or nine. But the Raiders are told Panthers, I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. You do get way more compensation though, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a you know, a cost benefit if

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<v Speaker 1>you get more picks, maybe more future first round picks,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you do maybe miss out on some of

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, generational prospects we're seeing in those two

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<v Speaker 1>defenders from the SEC. Brad Spielberger from Pro Football Focus

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<v Speaker 1>with Jeff Joni Actp there and Jim Miller here on

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<v Speaker 1>Serious excuse me, serious Sex and Bears All Access on

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen score brought to you by Idius Energy. Brat, you

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<v Speaker 1>keep mentioning your Bears fans, so give us a little background.

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<v Speaker 1>Your name is becoming quite popular right now because salary

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<v Speaker 1>cap talk is now just like fantasy football talk. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a big, big deal, and you are a cap specialist.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your history here with the Bears? What's your story

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<v Speaker 1>and and what years were you with the Vikings as

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<v Speaker 1>an intern? Oh? I appreciate that. Yeah. So I'm born

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<v Speaker 1>and raised from Moneta. I went to New Trier. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't hold that against me, but why would so? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up on the North Side, you know, born

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<v Speaker 1>and rais, like I said, Dinard bassement my entire life

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know I knew I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>pursue a job in sports So when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>law school, I went to Tulane kind of pointedly. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a big sports law program, and I know they

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<v Speaker 1>are the enemy in the NFC North, but the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>Vices are a first rate organization. And when I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Warren was the president, and I actually was fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to work with him a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 1>go into his office and present things to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could not be more happy. We're talking about spending

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<v Speaker 1>all this money and making all his draft picks. The

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<v Speaker 1>number one edition this offseason very well could be Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Warren signing on his president of the Team'd you learn

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<v Speaker 1>about him? You know, it's funny. He's just he's this

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<v Speaker 1>guy that has this this gravity to me, walks into

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<v Speaker 1>a room and almost the air kind of gets stucked

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<v Speaker 1>out of the room, but in a good way. But

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<v Speaker 1>then you watch him and he talked to us interns,

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<v Speaker 1>you know as lowly legal intern the same way he

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<v Speaker 1>would talk to Rick Steelman. Like he's just a very

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<v Speaker 1>very pragmatic and caring And you know, if you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to you when you're talking to him, and you're in

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<v Speaker 1>your mind, you're like, this guy is a hundred things

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 1>more important on his docket to get to today. But

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.680
<v Speaker 1>he's really engaged in kids or what everyone is talking

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 1>about and everyone is saying, and I think it just

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<v Speaker 1>goes a long way and just establishing, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>good culture of respect and all these things. And the

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<v Speaker 1>last point, which I'm sure George mcceski loves. When he

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<v Speaker 1>got to Minnesota, they were thirty first in revenue. When

0:22:27.160 --> 0:22:28.920
<v Speaker 1>he left, they were in the top ten. So he

0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:33.359
<v Speaker 1>runs a good business. He knows what he's doing. Hey, Brad,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you start looking at some teams around the

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<v Speaker 1>league that may be in uh salary cap or dead money? Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>is there any a team out there that may be

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<v Speaker 1>able to match up with the Bears because of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Either it's a player that they're gonna get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>because they're paying too much that they just can't afford.

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<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, there's a couple. I think you look around

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. It depends tobe what players the Bears, you know,

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:58.600
<v Speaker 1>position wise they want to go after. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen and mentioned kid Keenan Allen, the wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>with the Los Angeles Chargers. I'm so they'll approach him

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<v Speaker 1>about a pay cut and maybe he's unwilling to do so.

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 1>M we saw today Aaron Jones obviously taking the pay cut.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a different running back, you know, says no to

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that proposition, and the Bears can add a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a Cap Titulty running back on the market, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a couple other ones. You know. I think Russell Gage,

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<v Speaker 1>who's had Bay Buccaneers, maybe gets let go. They're less

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<v Speaker 1>tackle about him and Smith. I'm a big brex from

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Jones guy. But hey, it's a you know, really good

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 1>left tackle comes on the market. Maybe you take a

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<v Speaker 1>look there. Um, those are some names I'm keeping an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on. Um. If guys together, the Bears probably could

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<v Speaker 1>use if they you know, if they do some available,

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<v Speaker 1>well could you could you really clear up Brad? People

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<v Speaker 1>hear so much about dead cap and the Bears took

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a big hit last year dead cap. They

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<v Speaker 1>basically wanted to clear out the credit card. Atlanta has

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:48.800
<v Speaker 1>elected to go that route as well, where they cleared

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<v Speaker 1>the credit card out because a lot of these teams

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of kicking the can down the road, and

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the Bears elected to take that hit, and why they

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<v Speaker 1>have put themselves in the position to have the most

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<v Speaker 1>salary cap space of any team in the NFL. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you nailed. I always like to use the expression

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<v Speaker 1>the credit card, right, So you basically you can spend

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<v Speaker 1>more cash in a giving year than the salary cap

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<v Speaker 1>in that year. But what you're doing is you're pushing

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<v Speaker 1>cap hit down the road, and like you said, then

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing you know, Khalil Max set the record for

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<v Speaker 1>the most the largest cap hit for a non quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>or a defensive player I should say, the largest cabit

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<v Speaker 1>for a defensive player to not play on a team.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that was a record you set last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it was smart of them to do,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take all their lumps in last year. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>spread it out because you can't spread it over two years.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was smart to say, let's just let's

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<v Speaker 1>just take the hit now and that way we can

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<v Speaker 1>have the flexibility going forward and we can spend in

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<v Speaker 1>the short term because we don't have any of this

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<v Speaker 1>there's dead weight. I think it was the correct approach

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<v Speaker 1>by Ryan Poles and the Bears. Brad there's a big

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<v Speaker 1>faction of fans that he say, listen, hey, listen, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not my money. I just want to spend it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fantasy football. But I am not a huge proponent

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<v Speaker 1>of a free agency I've said it at many times

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<v Speaker 1>on every single show. I want to build through the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I love what Ryan Poles's philosophy is and

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<v Speaker 1>what he wants to do. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>this team has to spend a certain amount of money.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand the cap better than most explain that aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of this offseason. Given the cap space of ninety four million,

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<v Speaker 1>what they have to send spent from a percentage basis

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<v Speaker 1>or a particular dollar figure just to get through the year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we totally agree there, right, Like I always view it,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, we do research on these things, and

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<v Speaker 1>the end, what happens when you spend at certain positions

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<v Speaker 1>and how big you spend. I'd like to say you

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<v Speaker 1>should go after non premium positions because you should be drafting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, edge defenders and tackles and quarterbacks and wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers them to you know, go after centers and line

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<v Speaker 1>off ball linebackers and safeties and things like that. In

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<v Speaker 1>free agency, But there is actually a cash spending minimum,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it's tied to the salary cap, but from

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three. For every team,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to spend at least ninety percent of the

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:01.399
<v Speaker 1>cumulative three year salary caps. So the Bears were way

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<v Speaker 1>below this past year, and they were a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>below in twenty twenty one, so they kind of have

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<v Speaker 1>to spend to a degree this off season. Again, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to make these splash moves and go make

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest free agent acquisition around, but they are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be, I'll tell you right now, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest spenders, one of the most active teams in free agency.

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>But of course you can also you know, extend guys

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<v Speaker 1>like Cole Comment Darnell Mooney. That of course counts in

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<v Speaker 1>the cash spendature as well. Hey, Brad, when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about the future of the quarterback position here and you

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<v Speaker 1>think about the decision the Eagles are going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to make with Jalen Hurst, is this a template that

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears are most likely you're gonna have to follow

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<v Speaker 1>with accordingly? If Justin has the success that Jalen has had, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>i mean you're seeing a league watch. Yeah, these teams

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<v Speaker 1>are going to go all in and maybe trade picks.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw honestly with spliac with the Chicago Bears, where

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<v Speaker 1>when you have the rookie contract quarterback that you believe in,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you can make these splash moves and spend elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you get to start paying that guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, forty five fifty million dollars a year. You

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<v Speaker 1>see like with the Kids Chiefs where they trade away

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Tyree Hill. Look, could they have afford it, Yes, but

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs were twentieth and cash spending this year and

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>just won the Super Bowl. I mean they they should

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<v Speaker 1>terrify teams across the league because you know, as they

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.880
<v Speaker 1>started their parade, this is a rebuilding year for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, kind of everything follows from the quarterback. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the Bears will spend this offseason around Justin Fields

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<v Speaker 1>because if he has the year we're all hoping for,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be looking at that that monster price

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<v Speaker 1>tag as well. And that's my final question is do

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<v Speaker 1>you stick to one side of the ball free agents, say,

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<v Speaker 1>on offense. We've seen use the other teams use this template.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll draft one side of the ball, i e. Defense

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.959
<v Speaker 1>and bringing a lot of veteran free agents on the

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>offense to really supplement, say a young quarterback like a

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<v Speaker 1>justin Fields. It's an interesting point. I think they could

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<v Speaker 1>to a degree. I think they also realized last year

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<v Speaker 1>that drafting defense. I don't know if this was their thought,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've done some work in the past on a

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.959
<v Speaker 1>lot of defensive players can take longer to impact your

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<v Speaker 1>team in the win lost column. And so if you

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<v Speaker 1>draft a lot of defense early on on the build,

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<v Speaker 1>like they obviously did, and then you kind of pivot

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<v Speaker 1>to drafting some impact offensive playmakers like all these wide

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>receivers we've seen come in and be immediately very very

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>important to their offense, and then pivot to, yeah, getting

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>some short term answers on defense and free agency. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why I would do it this offseason, and I do

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<v Speaker 1>think they might do it, you know, to a degree,

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<v Speaker 1>focus their resources in that capacity. Most significant offseason for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears. I don't know since when I mean, my goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Spielberger, we'd like to have you on again as

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<v Speaker 1>this unfolds. Outstanding insight, love how you look at the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciated buddy, Thank you very much, Brad Spielberg, Pro Football Focus.

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<v Speaker 1>along with Tom Fair and Jim Miller the former Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>Bears quarterback John Holk. I did a sit down interview

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<v Speaker 1>with John yesterday, but Alisa will hear that coming up shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jim loved with brand. Spielberger had to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>love the fact he's a Bears fan. I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. There's a great job in pro

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<v Speaker 1>football focus. But the fact that continues to get emphasized

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<v Speaker 1>here is the Bears do have to spend a certain

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money, and I think that's significant. And Tom

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<v Speaker 1>in the break and he and I were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>where you want to spend your money, and I said

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<v Speaker 1>earlier on this program weeks ago, I'd like to invest

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<v Speaker 1>in the offensive line through the draft and invest in

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>free agency on the defensive line. But if there's an

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<v Speaker 1>alpha offensive lineman out there, I don't care if it's

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>outside or inside, interior, offensive linementer or a tackle. Then

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<v Speaker 1>if it's possible, and those guys are rare, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>come around much. I'd like to get that too. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's shopping. It's a shopping spree. This is what's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm out shopping through the draft and shopping through free agency. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no doubt. It's got to be targeted. And certainly

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to overspend. But let's be honest. You

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>don't get fired for spending money. You get fired for losing. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the reality of it. But you gotta be targeted.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta be smart, and I think they will. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they'll be fisically responsible because you know, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I used to and ask Brad about the Bengals, because

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<v Speaker 1>they were really targeted. I mean, look how good Trey

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Henderson has been for them and Mike Hilton who was

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<v Speaker 1>in division. They didn't have to break the bank. And

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>he mentioned Von Bell there was another guy, big playmaker, right,

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 1>he had the big interception in the championship game for

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 1>for for Cincinnati to make it to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you're targeted and you can you can

0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 1>build your team with mid level players that are that

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 1>are sending, that are still young, that are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going in the right direction, and then uh, you know,

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 1>sign him for modest money and not have to break

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the bank, but yet are going to impact your team

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<v Speaker 1>and the right way. But it's got to be everything

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<v Speaker 1>else that we talked about. Character wise, Do they fit

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<v Speaker 1>in the building? You know, how are they as teammates?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a certain guy, a certain individual you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>going out there to get that really is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a fit of what Matt Eberflus and visions and

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<v Speaker 1>what Ryan Eberflus in visions of the type of guys

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that they believe can win. But certainly there's only so

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>much pie, piece of the pie that can go around,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think one thing about the Bears, fortunately

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately on defense, there in such desperate need of personnel

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<v Speaker 1>at any position that if they went out and they

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<v Speaker 1>identified the most alpha ish type of player out there

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<v Speaker 1>on the free agent market on the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, could you go out and set your sights

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<v Speaker 1>in that guy? And you know, I remember when Reggie

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<v Speaker 1>White was a free agent or Wilbur Marshall became a

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<v Speaker 1>free agent. And there's periods of times throughout NFL history

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<v Speaker 1>where there was a star quality guy that just became

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<v Speaker 1>unaffordable to the team they were playing for, and you

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<v Speaker 1>had to go out and you had to man come

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<v Speaker 1>in here and bring this guy in with all the

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<v Speaker 1>fanfare possible. And then you see what ended up happening

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>to Reggie and Wilburn, guys like that. So, or is

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<v Speaker 1>there a player position out there, no matter first, second,

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 1>or third level that can come in here and want

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the pressure of being brought in as a high price

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 1>free agent and be responsible for changing the attitude inside

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the locker room and the results on the field. And

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll amplify that a little bit, Jim, I I don't

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>want I want young guys. So you know we're talking

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 1>about twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven. I don't I

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>don't want the thirty somethings. No, don't, no disrespect. Certain

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 1>situations command the thirty somethings. Right when you're ready to

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>win a Super Bowl, you go and get Simeon Rice

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>in Tampa Bay, or you go and get you know,

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>a player that we've seen like Von Miller trade for

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>him or whatever the case may. I then this was

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>a young team that got a lot of snaps out

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of rookies and they're developing, and I just want to

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>get this is my hope that they continue to build

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>it the way that you would envision a perfect scenario,

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 1>because they nearly have a perfect scenario in this current situation.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Would you agree, Yeah, I think you're right. I think

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>you want to you want to diagnose the guys that

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>are on this side of thirty, you know, the twenty six,

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven year old guys that are just coming out

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>of their first contract and are moving on and testing

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>the free agent waters that they're going to dive into

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>because the Bears want to build a nucleus here. They

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>want a strong, young football team that will carry them

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>moving forward. Um, you know, I said, you know, it's

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>funny because Pat brought peck her when my partner on

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Sirius brought this up. He when he was with the Jets,

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:42.560
<v Speaker 1>he had the opportunity to sign Reggie White. He said,

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>but you know the problem with the Jets is getting

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>them in the building. We needed to get the players,

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>like right now, Derek Carr is there in New York

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and they this minute. Yeah, like this minute. So the

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Jets don't want to let them out of the building.

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Pat said, you know our problem was we weren't you know,

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>a high, high free agency destination when you look at

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the Jets, and but just to get the guy in

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the building was a big thing. But for Reggie, he

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.400
<v Speaker 1>did want to move on, he said. Pat knew it.

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>He was trying to get the deal done. He has

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>his agent there with him, and it's kind of the

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the moby dick that got away, he said. Once he

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>left that building, Pat goes, we we got no shot

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 1>because once he went to Green Bay, they threw everything

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>at him and Pat and it was over. And but

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>the Jets were right there, you know, trying to get

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.439
<v Speaker 1>the deal done. And that's typically what happens. You don't

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>want to let the guy move on to another destination.

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>You better fly him in a private plane then, because

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you want to be in control of it every exit possible.

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:40.919
<v Speaker 1>That's why they call him the Reverend. It's called in God,

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>we Trust Decided gree Bay. Yeah, exactly right, we're gonna

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take a break. Coming up next, my conversation

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>with New Bear's cornerback coach and passing game coordinator John Hook.

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>It's all next here on Bears All Access with Amstezinski,

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.439
<v Speaker 1>our producer from the Score Studios, with Tom There Jim Miller.

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm Jeff Act at Chicago Sports Radio six seventy to score.

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 1>This second of Bears All Access is brought to you

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 1>by cd W. Be able to get it. He is

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>back with the Bears. Earlier this week, sat down with

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 1>my old friend and Bear secondary coach John Hook's third

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.680
<v Speaker 1>stint with the organization. He was a Bear in nineteen eighty.

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Much more to discuss here we go. I guess once

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>a Bear, always a Bear, because, as people may or

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 1>may not know, because you've been gone for a bit here,

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 1>this all started in nineteen eighty when you became a

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Bear with Walter Peyton and Dan Hampton and the great

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Alan Page. How's a field. It's great, It's really been.

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I've been blessed through my whole career actually to play

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>here back, you know, as brief as it was, but

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>to be here and get the field for the tradition,

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>and then get to coach here with some of the

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>players that were on the team at that time, special memories,

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>special coaches, and then to be able to come back

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 1>again at this point in my career with this coaching

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>staff and the ownership obviously and Ryan Poles. It's it's

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.720
<v Speaker 1>really special to me and in my family two thousand

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and nine, at twenty fourteen, here with the very secondary

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>coach and the first thing it pops in my head

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>because it didn't happen very often. It doesn't happen very

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>often in the NFL. At twenty thirteen season, Peane Tillman

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Tim Jennings starting Pro Bowlers for the NFC coach by

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>John Hope. That was our great memories even then, Yes,

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.080
<v Speaker 1>oh absolutely. And you know the great thing about those

0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:33.240
<v Speaker 1>two guys, they pushed each other. And of course Charles

0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 1>was a he was a he was a force to be,

0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, he he pushed it and Tim, you know,

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Tim wanted to be He did not want to be

0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 1>left behind. So you know, they pushed each other. It

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>was pretty cool competition. Yeah, and to this day you're

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 1>tight with both. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's been. It's been

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty neat. So I was in Atlanta obviously before I

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.879
<v Speaker 1>got here, and it was my first year and we

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 1>were kind of an up and down team and DBS

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 1>were playing okay. So I'm in New Orleans and I'm

0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>going out to dinner because we had had our meetings

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and everything, and I'm gonna grab some oysters at dinner.

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>And I get a text and the text says, hey,

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>do you get up early tomorrow? I want to be

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 1>at the game. And it's Charles and I quit. I

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>text him back, are you in New Orleans? He goes, yeah,

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I am in New Orleans. I'm here for there was

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.279
<v Speaker 1>a safety that was being inducted into the Ring of

0:37:33.320 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Honor there at New Orleans and he was there to

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>support him. So I said, yeah, I'll be upeven thirty.

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 1>He goes, sounds good, I'll meet him the lobby seven

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:45.839
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. I get a text. I'm here, so, you know,

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>for him to take the time before the game that

0:37:49.200 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>early on a Sunday morning. He came. I got him

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 1>some passes to the sideline and all that. But it

0:37:54.840 --> 0:38:01.040
<v Speaker 1>was awesome. And then Tim lives in down and suburb

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 1>of Atlanta and Gwenette County and he would come to

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the games. This past season we played the Bears. He

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>was there and he sat with my wife, and he

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>sat with my two daughters and they had a great time.

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>So they have both stayed in touch more than I

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.880
<v Speaker 1>would ever imagine. So you're in the family of defenses

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>that Maddieberflus is, so it's a natural connection. But it

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>goes deeper in that because you were born and raised

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.479
<v Speaker 1>in Kettering, Ohio. When the boss stay, you're a mad guy.

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>He was Toledo obviously played at Toledo, but you guys

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>also both coached at Missouri. There's connections to Gary Pinko.

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that the relationship quotient to this whole

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>thing or does it go deeper in Then that's part

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>of it for sure. You know him being in the

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>same system, him working with Rod my brother, and Elli

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>my brother coached him at Toledo for one year. By yep,

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 1>oh wow, that's interesting. Yes, So we have deep connections.

0:38:57.600 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 1>And then obviously through coach Marinelli and just the systems

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and belief system and how you play defense and what

0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it takes, the standard, what it needs to be to

0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>be great, and we've all gone from him and I

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>have learned it the same way and so we have

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of similar beliefs for sure. So it happened quickly.

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Boom cornerback coach passing game coordinator. It's a kind of

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:24.160
<v Speaker 1>a phase in this era of football to have on

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>both sides. You know, you could have an offensive coordinator,

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 1>but you could also have a run game coordinator. How

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>does that look for the Bears in twenty twenty three? Well,

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>right now, I'm just kind of learning and getting to

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>know who the players are, watching them on video. We're

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 1>going through cut ups right now. The defensive staff, coach

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Williams and those guys, they do a great job of

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 1>taking me through what explaining what they're trying to get done,

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>how you want to technique this certain coverage or that.

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 1>So I'm excited about it and it's been a good

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>experience so far. Man he Reflus has a very specific

0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>set of guidelines and he stays within those rails about

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>what he wants in a player. And knowing you and

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>how you coach, you feel right into that. What was

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that conversation like when you guys interviewed and spoke and

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>also with Alan wams Well, it was you know, an

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Alan has been a little bit has that background as well,

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and so it's those are easy conversations because it's about

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, assignment, alignment, technique and key and those four

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 1>things will drive every player on defense. And I believe

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>that when it was taught to me here and I

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>still believe it to this day. Those four things drive

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>every player. And when you get those and your players

0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>are able to execute and understand those four things, it

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>goes a long way. Also the toughness aspect of it,

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 1>because you you coach hard, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>and coaching hard and it's never personal. But all we're

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to do is make them the best art It's

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>my responsibility to make them him or whoever the best

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:56.760
<v Speaker 1>player they can be. So, which you've already watched on tape,

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a four pack of guys right now that really

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:03.400
<v Speaker 1>get everybody attention and that it includes Kyler, Gordon, Jiculon Brisker,

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Jackson and Jalen Johnson. These four players, uh, what

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:09.880
<v Speaker 1>have you seen on tape that sticks out to you?

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>And three of the five leading tacklers for this team

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>last season we're defensive banks. Yeah. Well, a little bit

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>of that too is evolution of offenses. Um, they're more

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 1>perimeric stuff ball gets on the edge sometimes quicker. But

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 1>they all have good skill sets. They all have unique

0:41:28.239 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>skill sets. Eddie. You can tell he's a veteran players

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 1>understand the games is slowed down for him from when

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:36.879
<v Speaker 1>I remember when he first came into the league, Jenny,

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>when you can see his growth process through this Kyler,

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>it was fun to watch him, just because I didn't

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 1>even Atlanta last year coming out for the draft, and uh,

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>he's exceeded. Uh. You know, for him to play outside

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and inside as a rookie, that's that's a difficult task.

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.399
<v Speaker 1>And you know, you saw him grow every game and

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>so you know, I think it's, uh, it's pretty encouraging.

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>And then with Brisker, I did him also coming out.

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>I knew he was physical all that, and then we

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>happened to play the Bears in Atlanta. I had no

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 1>idea how long he was, how big he was, and

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 1>he is a presence on the field and he's got

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>a bright future ahead of him as well. Yeah, you know,

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>the combination of those guys and just the Gordon aspect

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>of it. To go to that nickel spot as a rookie.

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>We didn't play it that much at University of Washington.

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 1>We both know that's one of the more challenging positions

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>on either side of the ball. In this league, so

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 1>many responsibilities and you got to be a willing tackler,

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>which he was, but then to kick outside and it

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>kind of just kind of took a deep breath, and

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm around the ball a lot more

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>so the ball hawking aspect though. That's that's what this

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 1>organization wants, us with this franchise wants, that's what either

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Fluce wants, just to hit the ground floor running like that.

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>How much progress do you anticipate from these two young guys, Oh,

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.960
<v Speaker 1>they'll grow, you know. The biggest growth jump you know

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you'd like to see and you usually do see is

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>between their first year and their second year. You know,

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>they're just trying to catch their breath. I mean, it's

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>it's getting ready for the combine. It's headed into the draft,

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.799
<v Speaker 1>then you're headed into mini camp, then you're headed into

0:43:08.800 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>OTA's and then you're you know, a brief break and

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you train and then you're headed into a training camp

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, it's preseason. All of

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, it's real ball and it just goes. And

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>so this will be their first time where they're not

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>preparing right now for a combine. They're not you know,

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.520
<v Speaker 1>they got a chance to take a deep breath, get

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>their bodies back to where it and they need to

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>be get their brains back to where they need to be.

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:34.919
<v Speaker 1>And so you'll see growth because they have a chance

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to hit reset, refresh themselves and then get ready to

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>go again. Brisker is a heck of a blitz heer

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and he has been all the way back to high school,

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<v Speaker 1>Lackawanna Junior College. And you know from our conversations over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, I don't care what coaches sitting in. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the corner blitz. So you know, hopefully you can

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<v Speaker 1>put that in the program. They have plenty of blitzes.

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<v Speaker 1>They do a good job here and you know a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the things that we did in the past

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<v Speaker 1>they still do because Matt's run this system before and

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's added his own twist to it. Alan's added

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<v Speaker 1>some things and it's pretty fun. It's it's neat to

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<v Speaker 1>see have you evolved from the time you got into

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<v Speaker 1>the league with the Houston Texans when you know that

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<v Speaker 1>was Tom Capers it was an expansion franchise as a coach,

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<v Speaker 1>because the game has changed since then. It's as we

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<v Speaker 1>can see in the Super Bowl with the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback the Bears have with Justin Fields, how have you

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<v Speaker 1>adapted as a coach. I've adapted because I've had to

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<v Speaker 1>adapt the positions had to adapt. I was fortunate I

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<v Speaker 1>had an experience where I was got to be the

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator for two years at the University of Maryland from

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Locksley. What a tremendous experience that was because I

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<v Speaker 1>really understand I don't know if I really but I

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<v Speaker 1>have a better understanding of college offenses and how these

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks are trained and what the offense is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the with the RPO game, with the zone

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<v Speaker 1>read part of it. There's things that I didn't when

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<v Speaker 1>I got there that I was able to learn because

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<v Speaker 1>coach Lotsley did a great job of allowing me to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to how he taught. He's a big RPO guy,

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<v Speaker 1>so there was a lot of good things from that

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<v Speaker 1>experience that helped me grow as a coach as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're back with the Bears organization that finished three

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen last year, but they have the talk of

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<v Speaker 1>the league right now. Number one pick, draft assets, financial

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<v Speaker 1>assets for free agency, and a roster that is going

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<v Speaker 1>to look vastly different than it did a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost feels like another ground floor opportunity foundation already laid.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you excited about that aspect of this franchise? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I am. You know. I think they've done a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>They know what the culture they want. They've set the culture,

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<v Speaker 1>players abought into the culture, and I just see continue

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<v Speaker 1>to grow. All right, So exciting stuff with John Hope,

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<v Speaker 1>Bears new cornerback coach and passing game coordinator. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>This is the rap session, Buddy, Here we go. Tom

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<v Speaker 1>fair Jim Miller. First of all, John Hoek glad to

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<v Speaker 1>have him back, Big Jim. Yeah, great coach. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>around for a long time, a ton of experience, and

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, recently with the college game and how

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<v Speaker 1>this RPEO game unfolds. He mentioned like Mike Locksley there

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<v Speaker 1>at the University of Maryland, so he's tuned in. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's tuned in. And I thought even last year, you

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<v Speaker 1>go look at what Atlanta did defensively because they again

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<v Speaker 1>they were salary cap strapped much like the Bears. They

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been able to really spend, and how they had

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<v Speaker 1>to generate pass rush and do the things that they did.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've got some young secondary players that are really

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<v Speaker 1>coming on strong. When you look at Alan, who I

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<v Speaker 1>think is just Terrell excuse me, Who's just going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a terrific corner when it's all said and done.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I like John Holk because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>some of these young guys to think that the game

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<v Speaker 1>has come easy to them. He's a no nonsense coach

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<v Speaker 1>and he has eye expectations for the physical contribution of

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<v Speaker 1>the position. So that's why I'm excited about John. One

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<v Speaker 1>minute to go from a franchise perspective, much more must

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<v Speaker 1>fall into place, Tom. But the announcement on the three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty six acre Arlington Park property closing still

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<v Speaker 1>a lot too, doesn't mean they're going to develop it,

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<v Speaker 1>but they own it now Here we go. It's it's exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Bears, in the Chicago Bears, you know, get

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the stadium mix like we've grown to appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>around the league league wide. All right, Jim, we go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Super Bowl. The turf? Can that ever

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<v Speaker 1>be fixed? Once and for all? Well, I just go back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they basically roll that out, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's an open door stadium when they open the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but that turf is outside. They water it and do

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<v Speaker 1>all the things, and then they roll it back in.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what the players said. It was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was like playing in the water park, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't dried up enough. So and what do we say,

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<v Speaker 1>it slows down? Pass rush? Well, it slowed down, Philly,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's put it that way. Zero sex give it up

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<v Speaker 1>by the Kansas City Chiefs Office. Tom shaking his head,

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<v Speaker 1>because cleats make a difference. Stand your feet right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep your feet under your body. That stop there, Jim.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tuck to you next week. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to Adams Zinski, also to our guest John Hook

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<v Speaker 1>and also Brand Spielberger from Pro Football Focus. Have a

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