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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3: My name is Matt, my name is Nola.
Speaker 4: They called me Ben. We're joined as always with our
Speaker 4: super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
Speaker 4: are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff
Speaker 4: they don't want you to know. A fellow conspiracy realist,
Speaker 4: let us be the first to officially welcome you to Monday,
Speaker 4: December twenty third, twenty twenty four. This is a pretty
Speaker 4: big week for adherents of Christianity, people who celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 4: This is also a big week for cyberg cockroach armies.
Speaker 2: Finally, yeah, Eve, with the cockroaches.
Speaker 5: O man, I've been waiting for their arrival as our
Speaker 5: new cockroach overlords.
Speaker 4: Well, this is just what we can do pretty quickly.
Speaker 4: You can now take a single cockroach, one of the
Speaker 4: most resilient creatures on the planet, and you can give
Speaker 4: them a little cyborg backpack. You can do it in
Speaker 4: a little less than two minutes. Now, way less than
Speaker 4: two minutes. And the reason we're talking about this is
Speaker 4: because we are not fans, but we're perhaps interested parties
Speaker 4: in the world of global surveillance. I gotta tell you, you know,
Speaker 4: I had someone gift me with a rumba from our
Speaker 4: earlier conversations, and I'm not sure if I want it
Speaker 4: out there.
Speaker 3: What do you guys think?
Speaker 5: You know, I've got a sort of sub rumba, kind
Speaker 5: of bargain basement rumba and asumba, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Exactly, I think. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5: We named him something anthropomorphis him and put giant googlely
Speaker 5: eyes on, which will come up later. But he's not
Speaker 5: very smart, and I kind of just stopped using him
Speaker 5: because he kept getting stuck under this understuff.
Speaker 4: Right, So shout out to Zoo Ahmed writing for tech Spot.
Speaker 4: Cyborg cockroach armies can now be mass produced at a
Speaker 4: rate of one every sixty eight seconds to the earlier point.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's a weird thing to lead with, but it's
Speaker 4: because we have so much other stuff to get to.
Speaker 4: We're going to learn about some uber scams. We're gonna learn,
Speaker 4: like you said, Noel, about Google eyes, googly eyes, excuse me, alphabet.
Speaker 4: We're going to have some talks about federal rules that
Speaker 4: maybe we can all agree with some secret conspiratorial payments.
Speaker 4: So much more. Right after this break and we have returned,
Speaker 4: we're returning with two purportedly mysterious deaths which we have
Speaker 4: all separately read about, we imagine before we went to air.
Speaker 4: The first one concerns the tragic story a guy named
Speaker 4: Souchir Balaji. Have we all heard of Soucher's recent events?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, unfortunately the broad strokes.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, he is a former researcher for a company
Speaker 4: called open Ai. He has passed away. The authorities say
Speaker 4: he passed away due to suicide in November, So the
Speaker 4: public release of this guy's death and his cause of
Speaker 4: death didn't hit the airwaves until maybe sixteen seventeen days afterward.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The stuff that is weird about this whole situation
Speaker 2: is the lawsuit, I think. Right, we've talked before about
Speaker 2: people who are reported in the news as having taken
Speaker 2: their own life, and they are involved in major lawsuits,
Speaker 2: right that are just imminent about to happen, and then
Speaker 2: they've taken their own life, and then it's left up
Speaker 2: to us to decide. Well, I guess you just read
Speaker 2: that in the paper and you go, Okay, I guess
Speaker 2: that's what happened. But it feels like there's something more
Speaker 2: to the story simply because of those circumstances.
Speaker 4: Let's go to Lloyd Lee and Katie Balavic writing for
Speaker 4: Business Insider. They're talking about the case that we're referencing.
Speaker 4: So eight days before Sucher Bilagi is found dead. At
Speaker 4: this point important to note he is a former open
Speaker 4: Ai researcher. He has left the company due to his
Speaker 4: own moral concerns. He's only twenty six years old, and
Speaker 4: a little more than a week before he is found dead,
Speaker 4: his name appears in a lawsuit against open Ai. It's
Speaker 4: a lawsuit filed not by another tech company, but by
Speaker 4: The New York Times in December of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: It accuses open Ai, as well as Microsoft, of cribbing notes,
Speaker 4: cribbing journalism from New York Times without citation, without permission,
Speaker 4: without informed consent to train chat GPT, which is, you know,
Speaker 4: probably the world's most famous terrible writer at the moment.
Speaker 4: And they asked on November eighteenth to add Bilagie as
Speaker 4: a custodian in the lawsuit. So not a defendant, right
Speaker 4: he's not going to be culpable for damages. The idea
Speaker 4: instead is that he has quote unique and relevant documents
Speaker 4: that could support the New York Times case against these organizations,
Speaker 4: against open ai and against Microsoft. It's largely a copyright
Speaker 4: infringement case. But every time someone in this situation, this
Speaker 4: guy's a proper whistleblower. Every time someone in this situation
Speaker 4: passes away, there should be more due diligence. Right, we
Speaker 4: should look at every death with the same scrutiny the
Speaker 4: current power structure would give to say, the CEO of
Speaker 4: a healthcare company, we don't we should we be in
Speaker 4: the United States? I don't know what do you guys think, conspiracy,
Speaker 4: afoot or more information?
Speaker 2: I would say the open AI the.
Speaker 4: Company, yes, Sam Altman, Yes.
Speaker 2: The company and the individuals who created it, and you
Speaker 2: know other people like I don't know how to say
Speaker 2: this person's name Ilia uh sootsgether, I think is how.
Speaker 3: You say it.
Speaker 2: But these people are potentially facing billions of dollars in
Speaker 2: damages if this lawsuit goes through and it's successful. So
Speaker 2: it's not hard to see that there would be reason
Speaker 2: to want the lawsuit to fail. Right, And how would
Speaker 2: you make that fail. We've all seen movies when you
Speaker 2: remove important people from a case, it kind of goes away.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's not saying that's what's happening here, but it
Speaker 2: certainly makes you wonder.
Speaker 5: Well, It's also like, you know, with this assassination of
Speaker 5: the CEO, while opening up a conversation for reasons about
Speaker 5: the state of healthcare in the United States, like killing
Speaker 5: a single CEO doesn't change that, nor it does killing
Speaker 5: a single whistleblower. You know, I just wonder sometimes the
Speaker 5: bigger picture with stuff like that.
Speaker 4: It's the right question again, agreed. You know, if you
Speaker 4: are if you are in court, you're moving through legal proceedings,
Speaker 4: having a whistle blower die puts a target on you,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It raises suspicions by any measure,
Speaker 4: even if you are not directly involved.
Speaker 2: Well, and I genuinely wonder if you remove the human
Speaker 2: being whistle blower from the situation. But that whistleblower had
Speaker 2: documents that could maybe prove certain things in a court
Speaker 2: of law. I genuinely don't know if those documents are
Speaker 2: still able to be presented in court or if it
Speaker 2: is something like I don't know the right word. But
Speaker 2: like the custody and the chain of the shame of
Speaker 2: those documents, does it change or you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know how that functions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the provenance of the documents seems to be your
Speaker 4: question there.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, who is who had the documents? And were
Speaker 2: they able to change them?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: And what were any possible intervening variables. We know that
Speaker 4: this situation in court will move through, hopefully in accordance
Speaker 4: with US law. I hate that I have to knock
Speaker 4: on wood and say hopefully. But we also know that
Speaker 4: when someone has passed away, sometimes people can encounter immense stress,
Speaker 4: right that makes them check out. We have to acknowledge
Speaker 4: the human moment. This kid, he's twenty six years old,
Speaker 4: he had a family. That family has lost a loved one.
Speaker 4: Will this affect the case going forward? That's why it's
Speaker 4: strange news. That's what we're keeping an eye on because
Speaker 4: open AI is at the center of I would advance
Speaker 4: to you guys what will be a proliferation of conspiracy
Speaker 4: theories in the very near future. Not the only mysterious
Speaker 4: death here forever. Who's reached out to us individually or
Speaker 4: as a group. We do have an episode coming out
Speaker 4: on the assassination of former CEO Brian Thompson. The primary
Speaker 4: suspect in the US court system is Luigi MANGEONI. We've
Speaker 4: mentioned this. We're moving things around to dive deep into
Speaker 4: that case, so please stay tuned there. Speaking of mysterious deaths,
Speaker 4: you guys probably colocked it too. A guy named General
Speaker 4: Igor Kirolov from the chief of Russia's Radioactive, Chemical and
Speaker 4: Biological Defense Forces. He is very dead right now. He
Speaker 4: is very immediately dead. Him and his assistant. He was
Speaker 4: killed by a bomb apparently on a scooter on a
Speaker 4: Moscow street quite recently. And get this, the nation of
Speaker 4: Ukraine has claimed responsibility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it. This is a particularly creepy one,
Speaker 2: at least in my mind, guys, because if you watch
Speaker 2: the footage the video has been released of this thing
Speaker 2: and where that scooter is sitting in relation to where
Speaker 2: these two guys walk out of the.
Speaker 3: Door right, the entryway right, it's close.
Speaker 2: But it's not that close.
Speaker 4: So it's it's strategic, is it not. It's yeah, it
Speaker 4: implies that one knew the path these people would take.
Speaker 3: Yeah it Ugh, I don't know, crease me out. Yeah.
Speaker 4: An official with Ukraine's security service, which we would call
Speaker 4: the SBU. They said, Ukraine did it. We did it.
Speaker 4: We assassinated this guy. And again it's our It's one
Speaker 4: of our continual tropes that we see in these kind
Speaker 4: of reports. I'm going to quote the New York Times
Speaker 4: thinks to Anton Troyanovsky and constant mehut. Here is the
Speaker 4: official quotation. The official who spoke on the condition of
Speaker 4: anonymity to discuss a sensitive intelligence operation confirmed the details
Speaker 4: of the assassination given by Russia. Again, an official speaking
Speaker 4: on the condition of anonymity. This is real hidden hand stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 5: He always kind of gives you pause when you hear
Speaker 5: those kinds of things too, as far as like a name,
Speaker 5: sources and speaking under the condition of anonymity.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we even see it in pop culture. Someone close
Speaker 4: to the conversation confirmed this.
Speaker 3: Was talking some shit right.
Speaker 4: A day before the general was assassinated, the Nation of
Speaker 4: Ukraine had accused him of criminal activity and said that
Speaker 4: he was responsible for the massive deployment a band chemical weaponry. However,
Speaker 4: I think I can Charlie Day a little bit of this.
Speaker 4: Let's look at the DHL, the sabotages. We'll have some
Speaker 4: fellow conspiracy realists talking about that in our listener mail
Speaker 4: segment later this week. I would also ask about the drones,
Speaker 4: some of which are clearly Poseidon program scanning for possible
Speaker 4: incursions of asymmetric, dirty bomb or biochemical weaponry. I don't
Speaker 4: think these things are unrelated. I do have to ask you, guys,
Speaker 4: does killing a bureaucrat matter? This is different from assassinating,
Speaker 4: say a Roanian nuclear scientist, right, that's someone with the
Speaker 4: expertise and acumen to accelerate nuclear program. This guy is
Speaker 4: a guy who gives orders but does not necessarily invent
Speaker 4: this kind of weaponry himself.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a it's a message, clearly, right, you
Speaker 2: can be touched and in a scenario that is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's me accidentally quoting Ben generally occurs, but it's a
Speaker 2: It is one of those things where for me, the
Speaker 2: message is more powerful than the actual strategic action as
Speaker 2: far as how it changes the battlefield.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see what you're saying, Right, is there a
Speaker 4: tip for tat an escalation? Will a NATO general get
Speaker 4: touched as well?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: It's it's unclean stuff. Speaking of unclean, we can end
Speaker 4: this part of our show. On one of two things.
Speaker 4: The choice is yours, gentlemen, fellow conspiracy realist. Do we
Speaker 4: want to hear about the next wave of super soldiers
Speaker 4: or do we want to hear about super fungus. They're
Speaker 4: both super.
Speaker 5: We've already heard about sentient cockroach super soldiers, so maybe fungus.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm so glad you asked. I know you're
Speaker 4: gonna love this one. There is a species of fungus
Speaker 4: that has been discovered in Chernobyl, in the space of
Speaker 4: you know, that nuclear disaster, which is still rendered the
Speaker 4: soil sala. A species of black fungus named Oh help
Speaker 4: me out here, guys, claudos Sporium spherospermum.
Speaker 3: Sounds sounds right, yea real name.
Speaker 4: It was found at the Chernobyl disaster site. It has
Speaker 4: apparently adapted to not only survive, but to feed off
Speaker 4: nuclear radiation. It's literally growing on the walls of reactor
Speaker 4: for and it takes the radiation and the radiation just
Speaker 4: makes it stronger. Like hitting you know, the Incredible Hulk
Speaker 4: with a GM or ray. The whole turn green when
Speaker 4: the rays get gamma.
Speaker 2: That's sick. But is this potentially a thing that can
Speaker 2: be used to, you know, mitigate places that are infected
Speaker 2: with ye radiation.
Speaker 4: What a great question. That's what I'm hoping as well
Speaker 4: do because we know that there have been multiple reports
Speaker 4: in the wake of Chernobyl arguing that the wildlife is adapting, right,
Speaker 4: that Earth will continue on its merry go round despite
Speaker 4: any disaster. We have to bust a myth. Yes, there
Speaker 4: are wild dogs descended from human pets that do survive
Speaker 4: in Chernobyl today. However, they are not evolving to resist radiation.
Speaker 4: They're certainly not evolving to feed from it. They're evolving
Speaker 4: to reproduce younger at a younger and younger age. It's
Speaker 4: quite a tragic story.
Speaker 5: Potentially, this fungus would like soak up radiation, right.
Speaker 3: Is that the idea?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, you're exactly right. The fungus is able to
Speaker 4: do so due to melanin. That's the pigment that gives
Speaker 4: people like Matt Frederick and yours truly an agglomeration of
Speaker 4: the non consensual tattoos we call freckles.
Speaker 2: Got a few of those whoa, well, that's the stuff
Speaker 2: that gives us cancer too, right, because it's absorbing that
Speaker 2: radiation real good, but it kind of hangs out in
Speaker 2: our skin.
Speaker 4: Yeah, time to contact our dermatologists through a very cool
Speaker 4: thing called radio synthesis. I was going somewhere with this
Speaker 4: incredible hulk reference. You guys, melanin absorbs gamma radiation in
Speaker 4: this fungus, so this fungus can soak up the stuff.
Speaker 4: To the earlier idea, to the question of whether this
Speaker 4: could be maybe, well, you can't really domesticate fungus too
Speaker 4: much smart, but could we perhaps deploy this as a
Speaker 4: biological scrubber in the wake of another nuclear disaster.
Speaker 2: Well, they're talking about using it in space missions as
Speaker 2: a space radiation shield.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fungus.
Speaker 2: That's come on, guys, if that's not some of these
Speaker 2: books I've been mentioning recently about using fungus in fun
Speaker 2: ways and outer space and not so fun ways.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had a story not terribly long ago about
Speaker 5: fungus that kind of took over or like mold that
Speaker 5: took over space ships and that thrived in the vacuum
Speaker 5: of space and actually got into electronics and caused all
Speaker 5: kinds of you know, gremlin like chaos.
Speaker 4: Well shenanigans for sure. And I hold that we were
Speaker 4: correct when we said fungus is probably the best terrestrial
Speaker 4: life form for an astronaut. It's the best astronaut candidate.
Speaker 5: Yes, it makes me think of the character Venom. I
Speaker 5: know those movies are supposed to not be super great,
Speaker 5: but like the character is kind of made up of
Speaker 5: this alien black mold type material that you know, I mean,
Speaker 5: or like the black goo from alien franchise films. Just
Speaker 5: I don't know, Like that's that to me is interesting
Speaker 5: use of like fungus or mold or this type of
Speaker 5: material as stand in for alien life.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent we have. We've got to move on
Speaker 4: you guys again. There's so much stuff happening. Look, you
Speaker 4: need to know that DARPA is currently in serious conversations
Speaker 4: to modify the red blood cells of human beings to
Speaker 4: adapt them to various conditions in war. And it gets
Speaker 4: so crazy that we might need to do a Super
Speaker 4: Soldier episode as an update because the stuff I'm reading
Speaker 4: is nuts, And the scariest thing is it's not as
Speaker 4: crazy as it sounds when we did our first Super
Speaker 4: Soldier episode lo those many years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to know how blood's getting changed to
Speaker 2: be super I want some of that.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think in the notes. I have the actual
Speaker 4: PDF from DARPA. I can't link it directly, but I
Speaker 4: think I can send the file to you guys. In
Speaker 4: the meantime, will pause for a word from our sponsors,
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Speaker 5: And we're back with more strange news, and guys, I'm
Speaker 5: just going to rip the band aid off and lead
Speaker 5: with a quick discussion of a very disturbing case that's
Speaker 5: been taking place in France. And so just trigger warning
Speaker 5: here for anyone listening. This describes I'm not going to
Speaker 5: be graphic or anything, but some of the most horrific
Speaker 5: acts of sexual assault that I could possibly imagine. And
Speaker 5: I only bring this up because I found the verdict
Speaker 5: in this trial that I'm about to discuss is supposed
Speaker 5: to be announced tomorrow, that's December the nineteenth, Thursday, December
Speaker 5: the nineteenth, but it's not something that we've discussed, and honestly,
Speaker 5: I only bring it up today, you know, in advance
Speaker 5: of the verdict coming down, because in PR had a
Speaker 5: really thoughtful piece about it and essentially talking about how
Speaker 5: there are things about this case that are potentially going
Speaker 5: to change the narrative around sexual assault.
Speaker 3: So we'll just get right to.
Speaker 5: The case involves a woman named Giselle Pelicot who for
Speaker 5: over a decade was drugged and sexually assaulted by her
Speaker 5: husband and many many other men who her husband organized
Speaker 5: through various chat rooms involving the trading and proliferation of
Speaker 5: you know, illegal sexual material, often sexual assault related material.
Speaker 5: He essentially was using his wife in this way and
Speaker 5: making videos of it. And due to another case or
Speaker 5: another infraction, that this man, Dominique Pellicott, was caught in
Speaker 5: the act of essentially some upskirt photographs that he was
Speaker 5: taking at a local supermarket where they lived in a
Speaker 5: small village in France. This led police to confiscate his
Speaker 5: phone and laptop, and in doing so they found what's
Speaker 5: being described as more than twenty thousand videos of sexual
Speaker 5: assault on his wife. And when his wife was essentially
Speaker 5: shown a still frame of one of these, she didn't
Speaker 5: even know what she was looking at at first, and
Speaker 5: apparently he would even dress her up and lingerie that
Speaker 5: she would not have normally worn, you know, he would
Speaker 5: at first it was just him doing the assault, and
Speaker 5: he would do sexual acts that she was not comfortable with.
Speaker 5: In the course of their marriage, and then it escalated
Speaker 5: to you know, having all of these outside parties coming
Speaker 5: in and organizing this coordinating this kind of fine tuning
Speaker 5: the cocktail of drugs that he was giving her, and
Speaker 5: then creating this material that was then found by police.
Speaker 5: Giselle understandably was absolutely shattered, you know, her entire world.
Speaker 5: She'd been married to this man for I think thirty
Speaker 5: eight years. Just I can only imagine the realization in
Speaker 5: that moment of that level of betrayal and just how
Speaker 5: that could just literally shatter one psyche. But I think
Speaker 5: the reason that I wanted to bring it up because
Speaker 5: this NPR piece just points out very astutely that you know,
Speaker 5: she actively decided to not lean on anonymity and to
Speaker 5: become a public face for this kind of sexual assault.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is obviously just unspeakably horrific and just
Speaker 5: the most extreme example that I've ever seen of something
Speaker 5: like this. But in you know, in not being anonymous
Speaker 5: and becoming this kind of face of this type of crime,
Speaker 5: I think she has reached a lot of women who
Speaker 5: who have experienced similar things, because you know, rape and
Speaker 5: sexual assault is often most often perpetrated by partners, by
Speaker 5: people who you know, are known to an individual who
Speaker 5: is being assaulted, and that is sadly something that maybe
Speaker 5: gets overlooked a lot. And then this is something that
Speaker 5: Giselle is very you know, actively sort of shining the
Speaker 5: light on. I guess, let's just say she has decided
Speaker 5: to change her name to her maiden name and moved
Speaker 5: to an undisclosed location to restart her life. But during
Speaker 5: the course of the trial, she was identified by her
Speaker 5: married name, you know, with this man, this man who
Speaker 5: allegedly and almost certainly you know, did these horrible acts
Speaker 5: to her. And they have two grown children who had
Speaker 5: to find out about this, and you know, the family
Speaker 5: has basically purged all remnants of this man from their lives,
Speaker 5: in terms of photographs, in terms of keepsakes, anything like that.
Speaker 5: One of his own children described him as the worst
Speaker 5: sexual predator in the history of France. And another thing
Speaker 5: that the MPR piece and I should actually mention what
Speaker 5: it is by Eleanor Beardsley that a mass rape trial
Speaker 5: in France has changed the conversation about sexual assault. This
Speaker 5: came out on December seventeenth, which was yesterday, as we recorded.
Speaker 5: This just points out that France, I mean this isn't
Speaker 5: the only place. This certainly isn't unique to France, but
Speaker 5: in visiting there, I've kind of witnessed it firsthand. I've
Speaker 5: only been once in my adult life. I've spent some
Speaker 5: time in Paris, and there is a culture of really
Speaker 5: toxic masculinity that's very open and unapologetic. And you know,
Speaker 5: I literally was at a bar with people and I
Speaker 5: saw a man yanko woman out of the toilet, you know,
Speaker 5: by her arm. Whether she was his partner or whatever,
Speaker 5: or a stranger or whatever, it was irrelevant, but it
Speaker 5: was just the level of open misogyny and just you know,
Speaker 5: physical assault essentially. That was just kind of laughed off
Speaker 5: by a lot of the people that were there, and
Speaker 5: I was really taken aback by that, And in talking
Speaker 5: about that to other people that I know, they kind
Speaker 5: of pointed out that, yeah, this is a real problem
Speaker 5: in France. So there are some details in this case
Speaker 5: that are beyond heartbreaking, and I think it may well
Speaker 5: be something that when there are more information comes out
Speaker 5: after the dust has settled in the case, a little
Speaker 5: bit may well be worth exploring in a difficult but
Speaker 5: I think important full episode potentially, So I know that's
Speaker 5: a massive bomber, guys. I didn't know if there's anything
Speaker 5: in bet I know you've been following this case as well, Matt.
Speaker 3: Not sure how much you're familiar with this or have
Speaker 3: seen it.
Speaker 5: It was honestly something that had kind of sadly slipped
Speaker 5: under my radar, and I had not seen it reported
Speaker 5: a ton in Western media. And you know, we do
Speaker 5: these strange news episodes every week, and I'm constantly looking
Speaker 5: at looking for and I just really didn't seem like
Speaker 5: it was getting a whole lot of attention until now
Speaker 5: that the you know, the verdict is coming down, and
Speaker 5: certainly this has been an ongoing case for a long time.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I just in our throats to you, guys,
Speaker 5: if there's anything about this piece or about this case
Speaker 5: that you'd like to comment on.
Speaker 4: Well, Noel, I appreciate you bringing this to our fellow
Speaker 4: conspiracy realist, especially if anyone in the audience tonight is
Speaker 4: unaware of the sheer depravity and degradation that occurred here.
Speaker 4: Perhaps the most important thing to take away from this
Speaker 4: story is that Giselle Pellicotte is heroic because it in
Speaker 4: a conspiracy of silence, and you know, I've spent some
Speaker 4: time in France as well in a conspiracy of silence.
Speaker 4: The most powerful tool someone has is transparency. So transparent
Speaker 4: about this will hopefully empower other survivors whom I will
Speaker 4: not call victims. And it's heavy, you know, it's beyond words,
Speaker 4: both the unclean nature of these crimes, wherein I believe,
Speaker 4: as you said, fifty different individuals were charged. I think
Speaker 4: equally heavy and powerful. And beyond words is this year
Speaker 4: heroism of this person who is raising a clarion call
Speaker 4: to other people who may have been in similar situations.
Speaker 3: Yes, hundred percent, completely agree.
Speaker 5: Man, Anything anything that occurs to you about this before
Speaker 5: I move on to something maybe a little lighter.
Speaker 2: Just quickly. There's a striking thing at the end of
Speaker 2: a BBC News article written by Laura Gauzi.
Speaker 3: Excellent piece as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can look it up, titled new Name, No Photos.
Speaker 2: Giselle Pelicott removes all trace of her husband and if
Speaker 2: you go all the way to the bottom of the
Speaker 2: art article, it's part of the trial.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 2: They had one of the family members go up on
Speaker 2: the stand who was not, you know, immediately in the family,
Speaker 2: but was pretty closely related somebody who helped Giselle go
Speaker 2: to you know, doctor's visits, and one of the attorneys,
Speaker 2: the defense attorney says basically, well, how could you not
Speaker 2: have known that this was happening? And this person says,
Speaker 2: and this is just a crazy powerful quote quote, you're
Speaker 2: forgetting one thing. You cannot imagine the unimaginable, which is
Speaker 2: what this entire thing feels like to me.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I recently this is a different
Speaker 5: type of story, but it's in this fiction. But I recently,
Speaker 5: I think I mentioned on the show a film that
Speaker 5: came out last year and really just started getting attention
Speaker 5: this year called Red Rooms. And it's a French Canadian
Speaker 5: film about a trial involving a man who allegedly committed
Speaker 5: horrific murders on camera. What are kind of these fabled
Speaker 5: red rooms of sort of like dark web lore, you know,
Speaker 5: the idea of these like snuff films. Yeah, for the Internet,
Speaker 5: And I can't in my mind this is you know,
Speaker 5: a sexual assault version of that.
Speaker 3: There are websites that trade in this kind of material.
Speaker 5: It's a chat room that's referencing that BBC article called
Speaker 5: Without her Knowledge. I mean, this is the kind of
Speaker 5: stuff that does exist. This is currency, you know, on
Speaker 5: the internet, in these dark, depraved kind of corners of.
Speaker 3: The Internet and the dark web and all of that.
Speaker 5: And so I just couldn't help but think of that film,
Speaker 5: because it is an excellent, excellent film, by the way,
Speaker 5: and it's a different type of crime, but it does
Speaker 5: ring similarly in my ears as far as like the
Speaker 5: level of meticulousness of cataloging these videos and like potentially
Speaker 5: selling them or streaming them or what have you. It's
Speaker 5: just the just the mind kind of recoils in horror
Speaker 5: at this sort of stuff. And you know, and I
Speaker 5: think another point that the BBC and the Public Radio
Speaker 5: Peace make that I think is really important here is
Speaker 5: that the men that are on trial here seventy one
Speaker 5: men in fact, many of whom are named and on trial.
Speaker 3: I think it's fifty that are actually on trial.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry if I'm getting some details not quite right,
Speaker 5: but it's in that neighborhood. I don't think every single
Speaker 5: one of them was found, but they're all on trial
Speaker 5: for up to twenty years imprisonment. But the point is
Speaker 5: that these are not people you would look at and
Speaker 5: say these are monsters.
Speaker 3: These are boogeymen. You know, these are pure evil.
Speaker 5: These are working class French Men, and many of them
Speaker 5: are part of this misogynist kind of culture. And there's
Speaker 5: even you know, a historical, you know thing in French
Speaker 5: culture that I think was only sort of overturned legally speaking,
Speaker 5: the idea of the man being established as the head
Speaker 5: of the household. And a lot of these people who
Speaker 5: were you know pulled in and you know, put on
Speaker 5: trial for these crimes. Their argument was that they didn't
Speaker 5: rape her because her husband gave them permission. I mean,
Speaker 5: come on, like, that's it's wild that someone would think
Speaker 5: that that's an argument.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's clearly it's an argument, but it is a
Speaker 4: morally fraudulent and insidious attempt at an argument. It reminds me, Nolan,
Speaker 4: I think many of our fellow conspiracy realists of the
Speaker 4: related cases involving widespread sexual abuse in the in room,
Speaker 4: the Inthroom affair in South Korea, a criminal case involving
Speaker 4: cybersex trafficking sexually exploitative videos, often with the victims drugged,
Speaker 4: as we're describing in this French case, across multiple demographics,
Speaker 4: and the reason this calls to mind a relationship between
Speaker 4: these same abominable things. Is how you have, like how
Speaker 4: you've described or chosen to describe the criminals, the monsters
Speaker 4: doing this stuff. You know, it's important to know again,
Speaker 4: it's important to know that the monsters may move amid you.
Speaker 4: You know, they don't always have a big sign that
Speaker 4: says sexual assaulter on them. That's why Gavin de Becker's
Speaker 4: The Gift of Fear is a must read book, and
Speaker 4: it's a really important point, I think beyond just France.
Speaker 4: It's a human experiential point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the whole banality of evil kind of thing. And
Speaker 5: then I know this is not like some sort of
Speaker 5: new point. And then we all know that monsters move
Speaker 5: among us, and that serial killers are often described as
Speaker 5: being Oh he was so nice, he's quiet, he kept
Speaker 5: to himself. So this isn't some sort of like hot take.
Speaker 5: But I do think that the the interesting angle on
Speaker 5: this sort of cultural thing that is pretty strong in
Speaker 5: France and other places. To your point, Ben, but I
Speaker 5: see the conversation around this particular part of the world
Speaker 5: is particularly interesting and heartbreaking. So I don't know, guys,
Speaker 5: I feel kind of dumb following this up with a
Speaker 5: story about a Google eye bandit in Oregon.
Speaker 2: It would make us feel better maybe.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, fair enough, I'll yeah, please, Matt, please.
Speaker 2: Before you do that, I'm gonna do a shameless plug
Speaker 2: because we're talking about monsters coming in January. There's a
Speaker 2: new season of Monster following Atlanta Monster, The Zodiac Killer,
Speaker 2: d C Sniperla Monstra, Freeway, Phantom, all those, so look
Speaker 2: for that. And it's about a very particular fellow that
Speaker 2: walked among us and nobody expected.
Speaker 4: Can we say the name for the people.
Speaker 2: That no, we cannot not yet?
Speaker 5: All right, you keep your secrets, Matt Frederick, you keep
Speaker 5: your No, it's true, and all these high quality reporting
Speaker 5: in those series. So yeah, I'll just really briefly, you know,
Speaker 5: button that one up, and I think there is more
Speaker 5: to discuss moving forward, but end with just a diametrically
Speaker 5: opposing fun story out of Oregon. Public works of art
Speaker 5: all throughout the city of Bend, Oregon have been being
Speaker 5: defaced by a googly eye bandit. That's so I'm describing
Speaker 5: him who was taking googly eyes of varying sizes and
Speaker 5: putting them on these public works of art. There's some
Speaker 5: pretty fun ones, one called big Ears. That's like a deer.
Speaker 5: It really looks cute with those big Google eyes. There's
Speaker 5: this like orb this kind of sphere. Let's see a
Speaker 5: public sculpture that is the sort of like porous sphere
Speaker 5: that's sitting on top of a rock.
Speaker 3: It's got these Google eyes on.
Speaker 5: It reminds me of the rocks from everything everywhere all
Speaker 5: at once. So, you know, a bit of mischief seems
Speaker 5: relatively harmless, but the powers that be in Bend, Oregon
Speaker 5: are saying that this not only costs money, you know,
Speaker 5: from the city from the taxpayers to remove, but it
Speaker 5: has the potential to actually damage.
Speaker 3: Some of these works of art.
Speaker 5: Outdoor art, whether they be made of bronze or other
Speaker 5: types of materials, are often coated with kinds of lacquer
Speaker 5: that protect them from the elements. And when you use
Speaker 5: adhesives on that, it can pull the lacquer off, and
Speaker 5: that can cause areas that could be prone to rust
Speaker 5: and potentially, you know, damaging the sculpture on a larger scale.
Speaker 3: And there's a couple of different perspectives.
Speaker 5: Because you know, there's a Facebook post that gets referenced
Speaker 5: in this piece from the ap mysterious Google eyes go
Speaker 5: viral after appearing on Public Art in Oregon by Claire Rush,
Speaker 5: and she cites this Facebook user saying, my daughter and
Speaker 5: I went past the Flaming Chicken today and shared the
Speaker 5: biggest laugh. This comes from a user with the name
Speaker 5: Phoenix Rising. We love the googly eye. The town is
Speaker 5: getting to be so stuffy. Let's have fun. This actually
Speaker 5: also made it to a segment on The Late Show
Speaker 5: with Stephen Colbert where he kind of poked fun at
Speaker 5: this and maybe poked fun a little bit at the
Speaker 5: city officials who are sort of poopooing the whole thing.
Speaker 5: So let's just end with a quote or a statement
Speaker 5: from some of these city officials, including Renee Mitchell, Ben's
Speaker 5: communications director, and she had this to say, we really
Speaker 5: encourage our community to engage with the art and have fun.
Speaker 5: We just need to make sure that we can protect
Speaker 5: it and that it doesn't get damage. There was no
Speaker 5: intent to be heavy handed, and we certainly understand maybe
Speaker 5: how that was taken. We own this large collection of
Speaker 5: public art and really want to bring awareness to the
Speaker 5: community that applying adhesives does harm the art. So as
Speaker 5: stewards of the collection, we want to share that on
Speaker 5: social media, and so far the city spent about fifteen
Speaker 5: hundred bucks removing these googly eyes from seven of the
Speaker 5: eight public sculptures that they were placed on.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a shame. This is an exciting new silly
Speaker 2: Banksy artist that is emerging. Have we thought that maybe
Speaker 2: this is the work of the production team at last
Speaker 2: week tonight for some episode that's gonna come out later.
Speaker 3: You know, you said you were gonna be cool. You know,
Speaker 3: it's it's a good theory, Matt, It's a good theory.
Speaker 5: But let's let's close up this segment of strange news
Speaker 5: from me. I hear a word from our sponsors, and
Speaker 5: then come back with one final bit of strange news for.
Speaker 2: You breaking news guys. This just came in. I didn't
Speaker 2: even put it into the dock. Remember disease X that
Speaker 2: we briefly mentioned.
Speaker 4: The DRC, And again I object to the postcolonial shadow
Speaker 4: of calling something disease X.
Speaker 3: But I get it. I get it.
Speaker 4: There was there was a mystery you brought this story.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I don't know what you mean by that,
Speaker 2: the postcolonial disease X. I think it was just saying
Speaker 2: it's there. It's unknown what disease it is.
Speaker 4: I feel like they call it disease X more often
Speaker 4: on the African continent, especially when Western authorities are reporting
Speaker 4: it is that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I didn't know that. Well, the thing that
Speaker 2: they are calling disease acts. There was an unknown thing
Speaker 2: that had affected hundreds of mostly children. When we talked
Speaker 2: about it, it was identified at least several of I
Speaker 2: think two dozen roughly of the children to be malaria.
Speaker 2: Well now, according to Congo's Health ministry, who declared in
Speaker 2: a statement yesterday as we're recording this that quote, the
Speaker 2: mystery has finally been solved. It's a case of severe
Speaker 2: malaria in the form of a respiratory illness, which is
Speaker 2: still sounds really scary to me. You don't want that.
Speaker 2: You never want to get that. And it was there
Speaker 2: were five hundred and ninety two cases when the alert
Speaker 2: was first raised, and that was back in October, like
Speaker 2: late October. So this is just a messed up thing,
Speaker 2: this happening. But at least the disease has been somewhat identified,
Speaker 2: so it can now be treated at least better than
Speaker 2: it has been for the past several months. So there
Speaker 2: you go. Oh, guys, did it? There's more stuffs coming in.
Speaker 2: This is from This is a story about someone we
Speaker 2: mentioned recently, Hanna Kobayashi. This is a young woman who
Speaker 2: went missing after she flew from Maui to Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Her family lost contact with her. She was supposed to
Speaker 2: fly to New York City in a connecting flight. She didn't.
Speaker 2: Then we saw that there was footage of her walking
Speaker 2: into Mexico via the border there at San Diego. We
Speaker 2: heard a terrible and tragic story about her father flying
Speaker 2: to Los Angeles searching for her, who was found appeared
Speaker 2: to be that heat had taken his own life. Horrible stuff. Well,
Speaker 2: as of right now, guys, she is back. She is
Speaker 2: back in the United States. As of December fifteenth, she
Speaker 2: has returned earned That is according to a letter that
Speaker 2: she wrote and gave to her aunt, who then distributed
Speaker 2: it out to media. And everything appears to be okay,
Speaker 2: other than, of course, the tragedy that occurred with her father.
Speaker 2: But the family is now recovering and figuring everything out.
Speaker 2: It's one of these stories, guys, that feels like there's
Speaker 2: way more to it, Like there's a puzzle that needs
Speaker 2: to get solved. Still, Like what happened? Why did she
Speaker 2: go no contact, you know.
Speaker 4: A timeline at the very least.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels that way. But I guys, I wonder if,
Speaker 2: like personally for me, if that's how my brain has
Speaker 2: been primed for these kinds of things. And what happens
Speaker 2: when a giant media spotlight gets shown on any individual life? Right?
Speaker 4: You find too many things, is what happens.
Speaker 2: But you're cherry picking circumstances, right, So narrative, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: So I think I feel like shining on anybody's life,
Speaker 2: there's stuff going on that that person probably would rather
Speaker 2: not everybody know about. So then it becomes this miss of, oh, well,
Speaker 2: what's actually happening? We have to find out, And then
Speaker 2: it becomes more and more and more and more, and
Speaker 2: it snowballs into what we saw here with Hanna Kobayashi,
Speaker 2: where the media appeared to be obsessed with it, and
Speaker 2: I know that I was thinking about it. There were
Speaker 2: YouTube and TikTok videos coming out all over the place
Speaker 2: about this, speculating on every possibility of what could be happening.
Speaker 2: We talked about some of the speculation even when we
Speaker 2: just mentioned it. And then she comes back and here's
Speaker 2: the quote from Hannah herself. I was unaware of everything
Speaker 2: that was happening in the media while I was away,
Speaker 2: and I'm still processing it.
Speaker 4: All.
Speaker 2: My focus is now on my healing, my peace, and
Speaker 2: my creativity. I'm deeply grateful to my family and everyone
Speaker 2: who's shown me kindness and compassion during this time. And
Speaker 2: then basically, but also leave us alone, please. And that's
Speaker 2: not a direct quote, but that's like a it's the feeling. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I can imagine that feeling. But I can also
Speaker 2: imagine the families feeling of we can't get in contact
Speaker 2: with this person that we love and we're terrified. I
Speaker 2: can imagine the police officers who are out there searching
Speaker 2: and you know, hunting down leads to figure out what
Speaker 2: the heck happened. It's something that becomes a media storm
Speaker 2: that I think is probably disruptive and destructive. All attractive,
Speaker 2: oh very much.
Speaker 4: And this is There's there's one interesting wrinkle I'd like
Speaker 4: to share here, which is very small. I don't think
Speaker 4: it matters. But Kobyashi is also also very well known
Speaker 4: in the West for two things. First, the Kobyashi Maru,
Speaker 4: the famous unwinnable scenario and Star Trek, and then second
Speaker 4: Kobyashi has a made up name in usual suspects. We're
Speaker 4: not going to spoil it more. But it's another investigatory
Speaker 4: or investigative missing person's case. Just leaning on fiction a
Speaker 4: little bit to argue the name Kobiyashi pops in certain
Speaker 4: areas of the brain in the Western world. Right, if
Speaker 4: the person's name had been different, would as much attention
Speaker 4: have been paid? Had their socioeconomic or their demographic makeup
Speaker 4: been different, would as much attention have been paid. It's
Speaker 4: a troubling question.
Speaker 2: It is. It appears that it was the family's tenacity
Speaker 2: that got the media attention rolling. They didn't. They didn't
Speaker 2: stop raising their hand and saying, hey, we need help,
Speaker 2: Hey we need help. Something is wrong. We don't know
Speaker 2: what's happening.
Speaker 4: We need help, reaching out to the law, reaching out
Speaker 4: to media, perhaps even more importantly, to push the law
Speaker 4: to do more arguably than they might in other similar instances.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is weird because this, Eh God, I
Speaker 2: don't even want to say it out loud. I had
Speaker 2: the thought that this is a viable way to make
Speaker 2: yourself extremely famous, and then let it calm down, And
Speaker 2: especially if you're an aspiring artist or someone who is
Speaker 2: going to use their talents to make money in the future. Now,
Speaker 2: everybody knows your name, and if you you are putting
Speaker 2: let's say you've put together some art and you want
Speaker 2: to do an art show, you put your name to
Speaker 2: you know, somebody who has a gallery and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I know that is Yeah, we're doing an art show.
Speaker 4: Quite possibly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Other people come in and go, oh, I can get
Speaker 2: a I can get a an h. Kobayashi and you like,
Speaker 2: I don't look. And that's I'm not saying that's what
Speaker 2: she did. I'm just saying this is a troubling way,
Speaker 2: a potential way to get that kind of attention.
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, my palm Matt here is not ascribing motive.
Speaker 4: We are gaming through what, to your point, Matt, is
Speaker 4: quite viable strategy, Uh, one that historically has occurred in
Speaker 4: the past. Just saying and this is again, in no
Speaker 4: way at any point are we alleging that conspiracy. I
Speaker 4: feel like what you're saying.
Speaker 2: No, I am not alleging that conspiracy. Matt Frederick is
Speaker 2: not saying that. Matt Frederick is exploring ideas. But hey,
Speaker 2: we just wanted to put out there because it did
Speaker 2: seem like a possibility. Uh, not in this case, but
Speaker 2: in maybe the future, because I couldn't find any specific
Speaker 2: instances of that occurring in the past, where like somebody
Speaker 2: disappeared on purpose for fame and eventual fortune or something
Speaker 2: like that. Moving on, guys, there is an exciting new
Speaker 2: federal regulation that we just have to talk about federal regulations.
Speaker 2: There's really I don't know that if there's a positive thing,
Speaker 2: they have the potential to be very helpful, especially for
Speaker 2: human beings that do things like consume products or use
Speaker 2: services like oh, I don't know, healthcare, or go to
Speaker 2: concerts or get a hotel room. So in this case,
Speaker 2: we're talking about us, the folks who buy things and
Speaker 2: do things well. On Tuesday, December sixteenth, the FTC, the
Speaker 2: Federal Trade Commission, has finalized a rule that will ban
Speaker 2: quote junk fees for live events, hotels, and vacation rentals.
Speaker 2: I believe we've mentioned this before that there was talk
Speaker 2: of this occurring. It is now finalized. You can go
Speaker 2: to ABC News and read the writing of Elizabeth Schulez.
Speaker 2: The title of the article is new federal rule bands
Speaker 2: junk fees on hotels, live event tickets, and the new
Speaker 2: regulation that comes forward or will see the effects of
Speaker 2: it in April, basically makes companies put the full price
Speaker 2: up front, so you won't get a resort fee hidden
Speaker 2: in your whatever it is air not an AIRBNBA would
Speaker 2: be a probably hotel in a city somewhere, or you
Speaker 2: won't get at the end of your live event ticket
Speaker 2: purchasing a little thing that says, here's an extra five
Speaker 2: dollars that has to go on there for stuff.
Speaker 4: Convenience, yeah, service, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But you're it doesn't mean you're going to be saving
Speaker 2: any money. Those prices now will just be worked into
Speaker 2: the official sticker price that you see when you click
Speaker 2: on the first link basically to buy that ticket. Who
Speaker 2: knows if it's actually gonna help anybody out, but it's nice,
Speaker 2: an it's a nice form of bringing a little more
Speaker 2: transparency to some of those transactions that we do online.
Speaker 4: That's super cool too, because you know what this could be, Matt.
Speaker 4: This could signal a precedent for one of the most
Speaker 4: confusing things about physical stores here in these United States.
Speaker 4: One of the things that constantly bedevils by otherwise incredibly
Speaker 4: intelligent contacts when they go to the US is They
Speaker 4: always ask me, why is the price on the shelf
Speaker 4: not the price that I pay? And I have to say, well, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, they bring up some state taxes. Then, you know,
Speaker 4: depending your mileage may vary geographically, there might be some
Speaker 4: local taxes, there might be some tourist stuff, you know.
Speaker 4: And then the question, which is a very good question,
Speaker 4: is why don't you just tell me how much it is?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like what? Why not?
Speaker 4: Why you're not paying any more for the sticker with
Speaker 4: the price tag on it?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Just do the right price at the top, dude.
Speaker 2: Like so many things in this world that we encounter,
Speaker 2: it's a form of weaponized psychology because when you see
Speaker 2: it and it looks nice and affordable, you go, oh,
Speaker 2: this is good.
Speaker 4: Twelve ninety nine. That's not fifteen dollars exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yay.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't honestly, guys, I don't know
Speaker 2: how helpful this this new thing is going to be.
Speaker 2: But I did want to give a very special and
Speaker 2: I'm doing this on purpose. Shout out to current FTC
Speaker 2: chair Lena Kahan, who, throughout her tenure there has really
Speaker 2: been pushing for quote, a new era of antitrust regulation
Speaker 2: challenging the business models of major corporations in industries ranging
Speaker 2: from big tech to pharmaceuticals. CON agreed, dude, Con uh,
Speaker 2: we we dig all of that stuff. But CON is
Speaker 2: going to get replaced as soon as the nude administration
Speaker 2: comes in.
Speaker 4: So if you're hearing us, Con, go fricking nuts right now.
Speaker 4: All the all the stuff, all the stuff. Push it through,
Speaker 4: Push it through. Don't save anything for the swim back.
Speaker 4: Hear me before they cut off the mic.
Speaker 2: Oh man, there's a there's there's a piece at the
Speaker 2: end of this ABC News article that it's a quote
Speaker 2: from Con. And you know people have been asking you, well,
Speaker 2: you're you know, you're basically a lame duck FTC chair
Speaker 2: now because you're about to be out the door, like
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And she's like, oh, I'm using
Speaker 2: every second I got in here. I was just like,
Speaker 2: it's just awesome, guys. I'm right at the end here,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna say one more thing, one more
Speaker 2: note that I think is worth our time. This is
Speaker 2: on you, though, ye who hear this, check this out
Speaker 2: on your own time if you can. BBC published an
Speaker 2: article by Andy Verity title is Jaguar land Rover electric
Speaker 2: car whistleblower sacked. This is a huge story that we
Speaker 2: all need to be aware of. It is very important.
Speaker 2: It has to do with if it's similar to the
Speaker 2: Boeing story, has to do with a whistleblower coming forward
Speaker 2: within the companies that manufacture electric vehicles. It's for several companies,
Speaker 2: but they mentioned Jaguar land Rover, and I always say
Speaker 2: Jaguar because of those commercials Bagulina Jaguar.
Speaker 3: Fancy. I always want to one just for the hood ornament,
Speaker 3: you know, yes.
Speaker 2: But there are several other companies involved here, including a
Speaker 2: Vietnamese car maker named vin Fast vin Fast, And it's
Speaker 2: specifically about electric vehicles that they are manufacturing that this
Speaker 2: whistleblower is saying have faulty parts, faulty manufactured parts on them,
Speaker 2: very important parts, specifically the shocks on these vehicles and
Speaker 2: the systems attached to those shocks, which as this whistleblower
Speaker 2: is saying and posted some stuff on Reddit and then
Speaker 2: that's why you got fired about how they will fall
Speaker 2: apart mid driving, like going very fast, especially going fast
Speaker 2: and you hit a small pothole or something. They have
Speaker 2: the potential to break apart completely to where the tires
Speaker 2: get so misaligned that the person driving that vehicle loses
Speaker 2: complete control. One family of four has been killed due
Speaker 2: to this faulty manufacturing, and there are several dozens of
Speaker 2: other crashes reported to this stuff. But of course the
Speaker 2: companies want to keep it quiet, and this guy is
Speaker 2: trying very hard not to keep it quiet. So do
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