1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 2: Coming up in a few minutes, we're going to talk 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: to the mayor of Elmonte, Jessica and Kona. There is 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: a story out about just hang on a second here, 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: as we were changing things by the second. There's a 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: story about the city manager of Elmonte. So you have 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: a mayor, they have a city manager. Woman's name is 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Alma Martinez, and she pulled some kind of maneuver to 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: give herself a pay package worth four hundred and thirty 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. This is to spike her pension, and a 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: local code enforcement officer blew the whistle, ed Rarden. He 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: filed complaints and it's become a news story now at 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: four hundred thirty thousand dollars. Now al Monty, that's an 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: LA County city on the east and east side of 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: the county, about one hundred and twenty thousand people. The 17 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: median household income is sixty five thousand dollars, and her 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: pay package four hundred and thirty thousand dollars despike her pension. 19 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: So that's Alma Martinez. The city manager. We're going to 20 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 2: talk to the mayor of that town, Jessica and Kona 21 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: to see what this is about, and that'll be coming 22 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 2: up in the next segment. One thing I want to 23 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: get to is the Alex Pretty story which caused all 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: that trouble up in Minneapolis. 25 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: What did I tell you the three day rule actually 26 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: in this case with what day was it? 27 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's like the five day rule here 28 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: or the sixth day rule. Alex Pretty was the guy 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: shot to death by Ice agents, and immediately the media 30 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: presented him as a martyr, as some kind of a saint. 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 1: Look, he's a nurse. 32 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: He's a nurse, and I'm seeing pictures of Alex Pretty 33 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: helping elderly disabled patients doing probably some kind of physical rehab. 34 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: He's a nurse and they shot him to death. 35 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: Then we find out, oh, the nurse had a loaded 36 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: gun in his waistband, and it seems like a cop 37 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: was pulling out the gun at the same time another 38 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: Ice agent was yelling gun. The gun went off, perhaps accidentally, 39 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: but the other Ice agents freaked out and a couple 40 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 2: started firing pumping bullets into Pretty. 41 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: Again. 42 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: Do an investigation see if police procedure was violated, a 43 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: criminal act occurred. But that's what the story was. It 44 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: wasn't an execution of Alex Pretty. He's bringing a loaded gun, 45 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: basically to a riot to take on federal law enforcement. 46 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: What could go wrong? 47 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: This is like Renee Good another martyr, right, but she's 48 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: a mother, yeah, who uses her car to block ICE 49 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: agents enforcing federal law. Okay, they put themselves in play. 50 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: They're not innocent people, now, mister ICU nurse here Alex Pretty. 51 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: Turns out he showed up eleven days earlier during a 52 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: protest on January thirteenth, And here's what happened. And it's 53 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: on video, and the BBC got a hold of this 54 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: video and they verified Preddy's identity. 55 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: He was angry. 56 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: At the ICE agents and he kicked the back of 57 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: their car and smashed their tailight, their tail light. 58 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: Not only that, he bit at the ICE officers. 59 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: H so you spin at the Ice officers, you kick 60 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: and smashed the tail light of their suv. They jumped 61 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: out and took them to the ground. Five agents. Of course, 62 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: the crowd is screaming. They're blowing those stupid whistles like 63 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: they were six years old. There was a big confrontation. 64 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: But Pretty is not this innocent naive I see you, nurse. 65 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: He's a crazy person, and crazy people who bring loaded 66 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: guns to interfere with law enforcement. Yeah, sometimes it'll go bad. 67 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: Well that's the dice you rolled. I'm gonna play a 68 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: little audio of it of him kicking the tail light 69 00:04:53,000 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: outb stupid horns, whistles, Alex Pretty having a temper tantrum 70 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: that would put a three year old to shame. Huh 71 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: uh kick the tail out out? 72 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: You spit at the guy. Yeah, you showed him, Yeah, 73 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: you showed him. It's the gun. 74 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: Though he's carrying the gun at the time too, but 75 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: the Ice agents didn't notice it, otherwise they might have 76 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: shot him dead that day. No sympathy for these people. Sorry, 77 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 2: put yourself in play like that. You resist federal law enforcement, 78 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: you're you're I mean, how many felonies did he commit there? 79 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: He damaged federal property, kicking into the SUV, spit at 80 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: a federal officer, law enforcement officer, and was carrying a 81 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: gun while doing it, which is another set of charges. No, No, 82 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: he's an icy nurse. Look at him helping this old 83 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: man try to learn how to walk again. Good lord, 84 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: all right, we come back. Jessica and Conna is gonna 85 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: come on. He's she's the mayor of el Monty. The 86 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: city manager of el Monty has been revealed in a 87 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: big scandal here giving herself a new pay package worth 88 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty thousand dollars. You know this, This 89 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: spike's her pay. I assume it spikes her spikes her 90 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: her pension as well. What's going on here? Well, the 91 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: mayor is going to talk about it. We come back. 92 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 93 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 3: six forty. 94 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: All right, now we're gonna talk to the mayor of 95 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: El Monty, which is a city of one hundred and 96 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: twenty thousand people near Los Angeles. Jessica and ConA And 97 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: turns out the city manager, they have a mayor and 98 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: they have a city manager, Alma Martinez, somehow arranged some 99 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: kind of deal so that her pay package would be 100 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: spiked to four hundred and thirty thousand dollars. Now, the 101 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: median household income in Almonte is sixty five thousand, so 102 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: she's making about seven times as much as the average 103 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: as the median household. Got all kinds of perks, car loans, 104 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: severance package fifty thousand in backpack. Let's get Jessica and 105 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: ConA on to see what happened here. Jessica, how are you? 106 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: I'm good? John, how are you? 107 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: I'm good? What's with your city manager? I'm sure you 108 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: know her pretty well. How'd this happen? 109 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: Well, that's a great question. As you know, when the 110 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: original contract was being negotiated, a special medium was called. 111 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: Who To this day, I haven't really gotten down to 112 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: the truth of who called it because it requires either 113 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 4: four council members, the city manager, or the mayor to 114 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: call it called this meeting. While I know, I didn't 115 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: call a special meeting to negotiate her contract, and when 116 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: I reached out to three of my council colleagues, they 117 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: didn't call a meeting either, So you know, the meeting 118 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: was called. I was not available, and they decided to 119 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 4: move forward with this negotiation. 120 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: So the city council approved this package. 121 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 4: Yes, they did, all but me. 122 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 2: Twenty five percent increase in her base salary, car allowance, 123 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: education allowance, lifetime medical benefits, repayment of a salary reduction 124 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: from COVID eighteen months severance, and I guarantee that she's 125 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: going to make at least twenty percent more than any 126 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: other city executive I guess, including you. 127 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: Huh, yes, Well, I mean I believe my pay is 128 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 4: reflective with of just doing God's work. It's more volunteer 129 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 4: work I probably get. You know, I get about one 130 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 4: thousand dollars stipend a month minus taxism'. 131 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: That's your pay, is mayor is a thousand dollars stipend? 132 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Correct? Well, I had this woman wind up with four 133 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty thousand dollars. 134 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: She's like a lottery ticket she got, you. 135 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: Know, I know, and you know part of the things 136 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 4: that you know has been concerning is that when when 137 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 4: I stated that I wasn't available for this meeting special meeting, 138 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: I had been the longest certain council member and had 139 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: negotiated her contract at least three times. So when the 140 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: council decided to move forward without my you know, my knowledge, 141 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 4: my expertise and negotiating this contract, you know, I sounded 142 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: the alarm. I put out communications to my community via 143 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 4: social media, via email, and you know the deals of 144 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: her agreement were agreed upon at that special meeting, and 145 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 4: the reason why they you know, I believe it was 146 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: done this way because they had already posted the regular 147 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: agenda meeting for Wednesday, May fourteen. This happened back in May, 148 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: and on May twelfth, the deal points were finalized. So 149 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: by doing that, her contract was not posted with the 150 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: rare agenda for the community to see. It was I 151 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 4: believe intentionally left off so that the community wouldn't see 152 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 4: beforehand what was in her deals, And so the community 153 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 4: didn't find out until Wednesday afternoon when I got information 154 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: on the deal points, and when it finally became public. 155 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: And even then we probably had about twenty members of 156 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 4: the community show up. We had numerous emails come through, 157 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 4: everyone objecting to this outrageous salary. 158 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is this is just stealing people's tax money. 159 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: This is not why people pay taxes, so that one 160 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: public official can walk away with a fortune. And another 161 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: thing here, this could be even more costly. Apparently her 162 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: her partner boyfriend runs a trash haller named Valley Vista Services. 163 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Thirty million dollar contract was extended in the middle of 164 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: the old contract with no explanation, no competitive bidding. 165 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: What's that about, correct? 166 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: Correct John? And so it's actually not a thirty million 167 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: dollar contract. It's a two hundred million dollar contract. 168 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: Whoa two hundred million dollar contract? Okay, they're thirty million 169 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 2: in the in the New California Post. 170 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they need to correct that. 171 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: Well, why is this allowed? 172 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: What way the city manager is living with a guy 173 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: who runs a trash haller and he secures a two 174 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: hundred million dollar contract. I mean, that's that's crazy. 175 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: It absolutely is. And this was another deal that they 176 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: did on a special within a special meeting, and they 177 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 4: moved a meeting date to the end of July when 178 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: they are already knew that I would be out of 179 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 4: the country on vacation, so they moved forward with this 180 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 4: contract knowing that I wouldn't be there, and it just 181 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: happened that, you know, the city manager was not available 182 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 4: for that meeting either. The chief of Police was the 183 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: acting city manager for that meeting to approve that contract. 184 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: All right, what are the other. 185 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 2: City council people getting in return for being so generous 186 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: to this woman, Alma Martinez? What what's in it for them? 187 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: Why are they giving why? Why aren't they like taking 188 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: the money from themselves at least? Why would they give 189 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: it away to her? 190 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 4: That's a million dollar question. I think that's a question 191 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: for them, and and that's a question that our community 192 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: wants to know. Why are we giving out these these 193 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: large contracts, very generous contracts, you know, so so freely 194 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: and openly. This trash contract was approved four years before 195 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: it was even said to expire. 196 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: Now, I know you every a lot of these small cities. 197 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: They have mayors who don't necessarily have a lot of 198 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: power the structure of your town. What can you do 199 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: about this? 200 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 4: All I can do is continue to inform my community. 201 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: I pride myself as being, you know, one of the 202 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 4: biggest watchdogs and how we're spending our money. And you know, 203 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: I is concerned a seventy thousand dollars twenty five percent 204 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 4: increase in one employees, our rank and file, you know, 205 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: our public works folks, our police they received a five 206 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: percent increase that year. And to turn around and give 207 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 4: our city manager a twenty five percent increase, I believe 208 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: it was a slap in the face to every employee 209 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: that works in our city. 210 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: Oh, it's terrible, It's absolutely awful. Do you think who 211 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: can investigate this, who can change this? 212 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: Well, you know, we're we're hoping you know, maybe some 213 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 4: law enforcement officials are taking a closer look at our city. 214 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: At least I know I am all right. 215 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for coming on, and if there's any 216 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: more to this that you can inform the world on 217 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: our show, we want to have you on again because 218 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: everybody hates this stuff. 219 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: Everybody does. 220 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: I'd be happy to come on anytime. Thank you. 221 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: And everybody went on and wants to know how this 222 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: stuff happens. All right, it's Jessica and COONa, the mayor 223 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: of Elmonte, whose city manager mysteriously got a huge deal 224 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: with the city council and nobody knows how. Four hundred 225 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: and thirty thousand dollars. Again, the average household income in 226 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: Elmonty is sixty five thousand. When we come back, we've 227 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: got some great Tom Homan audio to play for you, 228 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: because Holman has planted himself in Minneapolis and he's not 229 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: going to be leaving for a good long time till 230 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: everything settles down and he's we played you yesterday. A 231 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: Ranti di back in September how he was sick of 232 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: the hypocrisy of the Democrats and the media who come 233 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: down on a case like the shooting in Minneapolis but 234 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: never have a word to say about the hundreds and 235 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: thousands of victims of illegal aliens from those crimes over 236 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: the years. 237 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI. 238 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 2: A six forty ron every day from one until four 239 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on Demand, which is 240 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: the podcast version of the radio show, and we will 241 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: have that podcast released just after four o'clock. Our number one. 242 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: We let two former Los Angeles Fire Department officials do 243 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: the talking. These two officials, Patrick Butler and Rick Crawford, 244 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: served the LA Fire Department for decades. They rose to 245 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: very high positions, and they testified yesterday in Washington, d c. 246 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: A Senate hearing run by a Florida Senator and a 247 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: Wisconsin Senator because the California senators don't care to find 248 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: out the truth about how the response to the fire 249 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: was so badly screwed up and turned so deadly and destructive. 250 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: And Patrick Butler and Rick Crawford told the truth and 251 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: laid it on the leadership, and that is Karen Bass, 252 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: the fire chief at the time, Kristin Crowley, and the 253 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: myriad of ways that they screwed up. You should hear 254 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: all those clips that we played of Patrick Butler and 255 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: Rick Crawford. This is the definitive, the definitive analysis of 256 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: what happened. And they said this was entirely preventable, this disaster, 257 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: this tragedy. Had fire officials just done their job and 258 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: made the proper decisions, followed the protocol, exhibited leadership, and 259 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: they did none of those things. In the next segment, 260 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to play you a post from someone named 261 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: Jay Michael Waller who years and years ago was one 262 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: of these street pro testers back in the nineteen seventies, 263 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: and he says he knows exactly what's going on. This 264 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: is all choreographed and paid for by outside agitator groups, 265 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: and these protesters literally have gone to school to learn 266 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 2: the tactics. This is not a spontaneous reaction of the 267 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: local population. These are subversive groups who are intent on 268 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: undermining the rule of law here in this country. So 269 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: we'll get to that in the next segment. Right right now, 270 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: I played the I played the audio from the Alex Pretty. 271 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: Situation. 272 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: He's the guy who got shot to death on the 273 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: twenty fourth of January, but on the thirteenth video captured him. 274 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: Why'd you play that audio part again and pretty was 275 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: having a huge angry fit in the middle of the street. 276 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: He was angry the ICE officers and he kicked the 277 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: tail out of a car in he spit on one officer 278 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 2: and this is what it sounded like. And this is 279 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: he had his gun on him too. He's loaded gun. 280 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: But in this case he should have been arrested and 281 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: charged with a bunch of felonies, but they either didn't 282 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: see his gun or decided to let him just ignore 283 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: his tantrum. And of course, eleven days later he gets 284 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 2: involved in another protest that got violent and he got killed. 285 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: Now this has led to Tom Holman being flown in 286 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: to take over the operation. He's normally the border czar 287 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 2: and now he's going to run the Minneapolis operation for 288 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: a time. And it looks like they have struck a deal. 289 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: They had Trumpet sent in an extra three thousand immigration 290 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: agents and related officers. And I think that was triggered 291 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: by all the Somali fraud. They wanted to clean out 292 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: Minneapolis and good and you know about this unleashed all 293 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: these subversive groups who interfere with ICE operations. And one 294 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: of the things, one of the sticking points because it's 295 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: their sanctuary city, a sanctuary state. ICE could never get 296 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 2: at the jails and the prisons where a lot of 297 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 2: criminals are being held either they've been sentenced to their 298 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: awaiting trial. And Homan has now gotten a deal that 299 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: ICE will be told when there is a prisoner available 300 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: for release, so ICE can then grab them and deport them. 301 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: So there has been a concession made from the Governor 302 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: Tim Watts, the Attorney General, Keith Ellison, mayor Jacob Fry. Yes, 303 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: ICE agents can come into the jails and prisons and 304 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: take the goal aliens who are no longer going to 305 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: be imprisoned, and so that's huge. In return, Homan is 306 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 2: going to be drawing down the number of ICE agents 307 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: in the area. One reason you have to have so 308 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: many of them is because they let the criminals out 309 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: instead of turning them over to ICE peacefully. So now 310 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 2: they're out loose in the neighborhoods and you need a 311 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: lot of ICE personnel just to get one guy. And 312 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: these are really bad guys with bad criminal records, violent 313 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: criminal records. But everyone else is on the table as well. 314 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 2: And Homan has reiterated that it's like, look, if you're 315 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: here illegally and we somehow discover you, you're going to 316 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: go too. I mean by now everybody should have gotten 317 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 2: the message. If you're here illegally, it's probably best to 318 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 2: go back home, because if for some reason we stumble 319 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: across you, you're gone. So not only is it difficult 320 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: to track down and chase a criminal once he's embedded 321 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: himself back in the neighborhood, you have now all these 322 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: interfere agitator protester guys, which means you need more ICE agents. 323 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: So they're trying to cut a deal. It's like, you 324 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: want less ICE agents, give us the criminals up front, 325 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: and so we won't have to do these sweeps in 326 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: the neighborhood, which will lessen the crowds forming and listen, 327 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: a need to have so many agitators and Home is 328 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: also sick of the hypocrisy. I'm going to play you 329 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: a clip here about Home and saying, hey, everybody knew 330 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: the border was wide open and that this stuff was 331 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: going to happen. 332 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 5: Play cut fourteen on the start of this four years 333 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 5: of an open border, what it means that people are 334 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 5: in this country underletted. Remember, let's not forget for four 335 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 5: years we're told the board secure. Four years, we're told 336 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 5: the boards secure, and we all knew it wasn't and 337 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 5: I wanted this to be a positive thing we're doing 338 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 5: here today. I also want to remember the politicians are 339 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 5: continuing to attacking us. Where were they in the last 340 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: four years when mumber of women children sex trafficking went 341 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 5: on time high? Where were they when a quarter million 342 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 5: Americans died from Vatanhyle coming across the border. Where were 343 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 5: they when women and children are dying making that journey? 344 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: Where were they were? Were five for fourth, over four 345 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 5: thousand amilies making that journey died, historic record? Where were they? 346 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 5: Not a word? Now, we're just trying to respond to 347 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 5: what happened last four years and keeping this country safe 348 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 5: and where arrested in a lot of public safety thrusts, 349 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 5: take them off the streets. Was make this country safer? 350 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: Prison Trunk Prounce, make this country safe again? And that's 351 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: what we're doing. 352 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: It's a it's a bizarre world. They don't care about 353 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: the deaths of the victims of the criminals. They don't 354 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: care about the deaths victims of fentanyl. They don't care 355 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: about the deaths of the immigrants themselves coming over the border. Uh, 356 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: and all the all the rape and the suffering that 357 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: the women and children go through. They don't care. Then 358 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: they lied about the open border for four years, which 359 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: of course is going to lead to this situation when 360 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: you finally try to enforce the law and here's home 361 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: and saying you beg for two months for politicians to 362 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: stop all this crazy rhetoric egging these people on. 363 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 5: I begged for the last two months on TV for 364 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 5: the writers to stop. I said in March. If the 365 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 5: rhetoric didn't stop, where it's going to be bloodshed, and 366 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: there has been. I wish I wasn't right. I don't 367 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 5: want to see anybody die, not officers, not members of 368 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 5: the community, and not the targets of our operations. For 369 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 5: the people out there. Don't like what I was doing, 370 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 5: If you want certain laws reformed, and take it up 371 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 5: with Congress again, Ice is making this up there enforcing 372 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 5: laws and acted by Congress and signed by President. The 373 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 5: same laws have been on the books for the last 374 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 5: six presidents I worked for. I started with the President 375 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 5: Reagan and ending with President Trump. Every administration we enforced 376 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 5: the same laws. If you don't like what I was 377 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 5: doing instead of protesting this building to protest Congress. Somebody 378 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 5: want changes. Do you have your First Amendment rights? I 379 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 5: support that you have the right to protest. I'm just 380 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 5: asking to keep it peaceful. But thriving on law enforcement officers, 381 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 5: engaging and impeding and obstruction and soul is never okay. 382 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 5: And they'll be zero tolerance. You interfere, imped assault and 383 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 5: ICE officers, you will be arrested. 384 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 2: They're still going to keep removing illegal aliens. They're still 385 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: going to have their primary focus be criminal illegal aliens. 386 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: Nobody's going to stop ICE from enforcing federal law. That's 387 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: their job. And you notice they don't protest Congress. They 388 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: don't loby Congress because they don't really care about changing 389 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 2: the laws. What they want to do is create chaos 390 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: in the streets. They want some of their own protesters 391 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: to die. You are told you got to put your 392 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 2: lives on the line. They're expecting some of their protesters 393 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: to die. That's what they want. It gives them martyrs, 394 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: and it fuels the cause because what they're trying to 395 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: do is undermine law in this country, to undermine our 396 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: peace and tranquility and stability. That's the purpose change immigration law. 397 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: The immigrants are just a tool here. They don't care 398 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: about these immigrants, Like I said, they're dying in any 399 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: number of ways. What they care about is destroying our 400 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: way of life. That's their purpose. When we come back, 401 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to read you this post by a guy 402 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: who went through protests training back in the nineteen seventies 403 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: and he recognizes what's going on in the street here 404 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenties. 405 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 406 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: six forty. 407 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: We are on here one to four every day and 408 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: Moistline is eight seven seven moist eighty six eight seven 409 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: seven moist eaighty. 410 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Six or usual. 411 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: The talk back feature tomorrow is Moistline Friday. We still 412 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 2: have openings. If you want to submit to your your 413 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: ranting and raving, you better do it right now. The 414 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: window is going to close three o'clock. Now we're having 415 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: Alex Stone come on to talk about ice in Santa 416 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: Clara's side of the suit Super Bowl. They're going to 417 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: be part of the security procedures up in around Levi Stadium, 418 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: and uh, you know, if they find illegal aliens up there, 419 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: it's not good, not good for them. I don't know 420 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: what it takes to get the message across Trump. Trump's 421 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 2: not going to stop. I mean, his supporters are not 422 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: going to put up with a retreat. So there's there's 423 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: They may they may change their strategy. Uh, they may 424 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: change their tactics. They are not going to change their goal. 425 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 2: This is really important for you to understand. I have 426 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: been We've been talking about this for years. Most of 427 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 2: the protests you see are fake protests. They're they're organized, 428 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: they're paid protesters, they're professional agitators. They're financed by wealthy 429 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: people and wealthy nonprofit organizations. Uh, and they're just there 430 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: to create trouble. 431 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: Uh. 432 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: It's often the same people showing up at protests week 433 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: after week, month after month. The subject of the protest changes, 434 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: the faces don't change. 435 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: It's their job. 436 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: So J. 437 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: Michael Waller was trained as a teenager, he says, back 438 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: in the nineteen seventies, by professional organizers, and he posted 439 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 2: this on X Today. He said these organizers trained him 440 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: to do the stupid protest stuff like vandalism, destroying property, 441 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: and creating provocations, to get stumped, to get stomped and 442 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: clubbed by National guardsmen. For the News cameras to turn 443 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: people against the authorities. Now we're talking about roughly fifty 444 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: plus years ago, so this guy would be in his 445 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: seventies now, age seventy plus. He's talking about the nineteen 446 00:27:53,960 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: seventies vandalism, destroying property, creating provocations in order that the 447 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: National Guard would beat them up, and then the TV 448 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: cameras would get the public to turn against the ruling class. 449 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 2: He says, we, meaning the teenagers, thought it was a 450 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: fun adventure and we enjoyed being part of an edgy 451 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 2: struggle in what we had been led to believe was 452 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: a righteous cause. In my case, it was anti nuclear activism. 453 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: Those who knew what they were doing never put themselves 454 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: in danger. They trained and set up the rest of 455 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: us as dupes to face the consequences that would be 456 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 2: alex pretty, that would be renee good. About eighty percent 457 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: of us were dupes. They used us to create outrage imagery, 458 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: used our shouts and chants to intimidate political figures in 459 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: the public. They used us to provoke situations that would 460 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: turn the public against the police and the National Guard. 461 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: We were just all American high school kids, harmless, idealistic, 462 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: innocent looking. It was all engine near to anger, a 463 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: SI up against the public and against ourselves. When I 464 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: realized the cause wasn't about the cause, but it was 465 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: about a Communist revolution against our country, I broke ranks 466 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: and spent the rest of my life fighting them. I 467 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: was sixteen years old at the time. Luckily I hadn't 468 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: gotten involved in any destruction or violence, but I had 469 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: learned enough to infiltrate and disrupt the movement until I 470 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: was well into my twenties. From that experience, I went 471 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: on to infiltrate Communist guerrilla front groups, Soviet International front 472 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: groups and disrupted their multimillion dollar operations. And this time 473 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: he did it for the country, and he used the 474 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: enemy's tactics against them. Most of the rest remained dupes. 475 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: And that was fifty years ago. The Minneapolis insurgency is 476 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: nothing new. It's been evolving for decades. We're fine to 477 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: an art form. What about the twenty percent were not dupes. 478 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: They knew exactly what they were doing. And that's the 479 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: truth from J. Michael Wawer who posted this online. 480 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: He said. 481 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: The other twenty percent, they had supported Fidel Castro, the 482 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: weather underground, they supported the Viet Cong and the North 483 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: Vietnamese communists, and many of these old protesters from the 484 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: seventies are still around. Some are sharp and militant. Others 485 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: are the geriatrics you see with their No King's signs, 486 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: hauling out their grandchildren or other people's grandchildren to train 487 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: them as the fourth or fifth generation of militants. And 488 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: many of them are still dupes. And that is the 489 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: truth from a guy who was there and it's been 490 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 2: involved with that all his life. All Right, we come back. 491 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: Alex Stone be interesting up in Santa Clara for the 492 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: Super Bowl because Ice is going to be there and 493 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: they might be doing some deporting so they might get 494 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: protest groups there. Deborah Mark is live They Can't Fight 495 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: twenty four our newsroom. 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