1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss the people. It's all about the people. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: It's all about the relationship. You hear that all the 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: time and sports. It's the truth. The Ravens gave me 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: a second chance. I'll never forget talking with Kevin Byrne 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: when I joined B A. L. And he and Steve 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: went out of their way to do everything they could 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: to make my experience with you guys the best that 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: it could be. There was a big question mark, was 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: he going to hold out that the contract with us 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: and about this team is before practice helicopter comes down 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: and land back in the backfields at McDaniel College. It 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: was good getting out, getting ready to come to practice 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: and say both, here we are. Let's go. Welcome into 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: the lounge. It's a little dead around here. Not for 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: us longer though, but not for us longer. It's coming up. Oh, 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be here next week. Players started getting back 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: in the building. Quarterbacks, injured players report, and then uh 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: A rookies report first, and then quarterbacks and injured players report, 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: and then the full team practice. Uh will be in 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: two weeks, first full team practice. So it's gonna be crazy. 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Getting excited for training camp as our fans 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: who snatched up all those passes parking passes to our 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: open practices. Uh in what was minutes? Thirty eight minutes? 24 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: Wild man? I tried. I tried to get one from 25 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: a buddy of mine. This shows you how a little 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: pool I have around here. I tried to get one 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: to the joint practices, got locked out. Get a quick man, 28 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: we told if they let me out there. We told 29 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: people during the podcast, they go in a hurry, So 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: you gotta be quick on the trigger if you If 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: you are a fan that was like you and you 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: got locked out of coming to a practice here at 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: the under Armed Performance Center. There is the free open 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: practice at MTBank Stadium on July UM, so we still 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: have that so you can get it pass for that night. 36 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's a great it's a lot of fun. Um. 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: So if you didn't get out get one of the 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: passes for practice out here, just make sure you gobble 39 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: up one of those passes for the practice at the 40 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: stadium July. You know we should do I bet we 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: got a couple in reserve for digital for digital media, 42 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: maybe we can can kind of do a contest for 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: lounge listeners and all from an opportunity to come out. 44 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm just this is just off the cuff here, But 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: I always would the contest be though. Is it like 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: I don't know best audio submission questions, best beer that 47 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: they send? We can make straight bribes. Why don't we 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: go with the hottest route and go best audio question submission? 49 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: I like that? Yeah, I mean this is not just 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity for us to stock our fridge full of 51 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: beer and much beer to the training camp. We're not 52 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna argue with you. That's a win win. Uh. But 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: as always, so you can submit that question at the 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Uh. We we 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: dig get some emails after our last podcast, the Way 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: Too Early Prediction this podcast, and some people point out 57 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: an air that we made, um being that we didn't 58 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: mention jaylen Ferguson as making team and he's gonna make 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: the team for sure. I had him. I don't have 60 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: I had him too, Yeah, I had the I had 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: him in there. My numbers were correct, it's just we 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: didn't mention them. I don't know if your numbers were correct. 63 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: You also didn't have Patrick Owassa making the team. That 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: was one air that was on one air, So I'm 65 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: not sure if your numbers were correct. I definitely had 66 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson started he's gonna be on the team. Um, 67 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: we will do another, you know, probably more accurate two 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: man rocher prediction once we get through training camp in 69 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: the preseason. Yeah, we'll see if we put Jalen Ferson 70 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: on the team. Now. I got a text from somebody 71 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: who was like, if I way too high on Jay 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: Jalen Ferguson. I thought he was gonna be really good 73 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: this year and you guys don't even have making the team. No, 74 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: he's making That was I think he I think he 75 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: could be pretty good this year. I think it's gonna 76 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: be great. With all that said, we are bringing on 77 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Keith Mills from w B a L. Just an instant tuition, 78 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: uh in Baltimore. Baltimore kid, grew up in Baltimore, went 79 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: to Towson and has been covered in sports in Maryland 80 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: for forty years. Uh. So we're bringing him on to 81 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: talk about the pseudo retirement that he's having and just 82 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: some of his memories. So why don't we jump right 83 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: in with Keith. You on the golf course right now? Keith, Now, 84 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm actually at the Orioles. It's the baseball complex in Sarasota, Florida. Finally, 85 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: stop thought, I thought you said you were retiring. You're 86 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: still covering the Orioles. What's going on here? You know, 87 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm not I wouldn't say I'm covering. I'm I'm here. Um, 88 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: they're they're they're minor league rookie team is down here, 89 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: and UH all their top draftick Rushman and Gunner and 90 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: Anders they're all here. So Uh, I have a couple 91 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: of houses down here from thinking what a better way 92 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: to spend some of my semi retirement? And you were 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: you semi retired from sports and you still go to sports. 94 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: Can't get away you guys? What Hey, listen, man, it's 95 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: it's it's in your blood, right, That's right. You have 96 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: you have to get the uh get to pick someway. Well, key, 97 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: I gotta start by talking about a video I saw 98 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: recently on w b a LS YouTube channel. Uh. Two 99 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: days before your semi retirement on June. Uh, you were 100 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: given the opportunity to smash your computer with the baseball. 101 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: I did see that. I Mean, that's like everybody's dream, right, 102 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: It's like when you're going out. You're like this computer, 103 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: this insert curse word computer is going down. So there's 104 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: a there's a little history behind that which I won't 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: get into. In terms of my computer savvy nous, which 106 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: is really weak. I was surprised there wasn't a rage 107 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: in the video, to be honestly easy on it. There 108 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: could have been, well, we only had one out there. 109 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: If my goal was to have all the computer pay 110 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: were getting ready to throw out, like there's like twenty 111 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: of them, and line them up in the parking lot 112 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: and have one person, you know, I had a bat 113 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: and charge a buck, let him take a whack and 114 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: give the money to Charter, charge ten bucks or whatever. 115 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: I would have been outivate donation. And that what I 116 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: found since then was that like you said, oh man, 117 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: I wish we could all do that. Whish I could 118 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: take my computer and whack at a couple of times. 119 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: But it was kind of fun. The guys at the 120 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: station put it all together, and uh it got a 121 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: lot of play and a lot of a lot of 122 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: fons with or not so just for for listeners who 123 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: aren't familiar. Uh, Keith is retired, retired on June. But 124 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: you're still gonna be doing the Ravens pregame impost game 125 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: shows and still doing Navy football. Uh. You had forty 126 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: years forty years Keith in sports broadcasting. Yeah, forty years. 127 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: I started at UH in nineteen seventy nine at Channel thirteen. 128 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know, my father worked 129 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: there for forty years. And so when I got out 130 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 1: of towns and I kind of it was it was 131 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: just at the start of the satellite technology boom, ESPN, DNN. 132 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: We're just launching and local stations and there was a 133 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: lot of video flying around local stags behind a lot 134 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: of production assistants. And I got a job as a 135 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: sports producer of Town thirteen. And U. I got the 136 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: job because my father fluntly honest with you. Um but UM. 137 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: I had a lot of local sports background and a 138 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: newspaper called The News American. It was a rival to 139 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: that time the Sun Paper. And Uh, your homework today, guys, 140 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: is to ask Kevin Byrne about John s. John Stedman 141 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: was the legendary sports editor of the Old News Americans 142 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: in the Pro Football of fame. As a matter of fact, 143 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: and uh he he he had one time watched every 144 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Colts game and Ravens game that was ever played up 145 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: until he died. And anyway, I worked for him covering 146 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: local sports, covering high school sports and stuff writing and 147 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: got a job in in seventy nine and kind of 148 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: far laid that into uh UM on air career U 149 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: at Channel two and then w b A L So 150 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: I was very very fortunate, very lunge so three TV stations, 151 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: two radio stations, thirteen years at w v als kind 152 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: of on the on the early morning kind of shift, 153 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: and uh, I gotta give him. I gotta just give 154 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: you some shout outs here, Keith Maryland sportscaster of the 155 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: year in that's a good year end. I believe Terrell sugs. 156 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He got Marylands exactly that would could 157 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: have gotten like sports personality. Yeah, maybe you got media 158 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: a good guy that year for Kee. I'm curious, like you, 159 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: you had your entire career just kind of see some 160 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: real changes in the sports media business, like you started 161 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, Um, and then over the course 162 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: of your career you see like newspapers at their peak 163 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: and you see a local TV at their peak, and 164 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: then it changes in the creation of the Internet, and 165 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: social media, Like, how has that been to kind of 166 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: have to evolve over the course of your forty years 167 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: in the business. Yeah, that's a great point. Back back 168 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: when I started, uh, you know, it wasn't cool to 169 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: uh to share your opinions. Uh, you know, you were 170 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: you know, we told a lot of stories. I did 171 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: a lot of uh high school college stories. And then 172 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: when the obviously when uh the Earth's one of their 173 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: world series, that was big. But uh, as as it 174 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: as it evolved over time, not only did it become 175 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: kind of cool to be able to give your opinion 176 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: at times at the cay's opinions, but it became almost mandatory. 177 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: It's what the people now demand. The other big change, guys, 178 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: is what you guys do now. You control the Ravens, 179 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: the Orioles, whatever, whatever professional team, even colleges pretty much 180 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: now control the output of information. You know, there are 181 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: very few stories that are broken. Now you guys basically 182 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: break your own. You control it, you uh plan it 183 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: any way you want. I think you personally, you guys, 184 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: and what the Ravens do is extraordinary. How you have 185 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: have changed the landscape locally and how and how we 186 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: do our job to be bluntly honest with you appreciate 187 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: that es So I'm curious, kind of piggybacking off that, 188 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: what's your take on the hot take? You know, you 189 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: say you're you're educated opinion now I I almost want 190 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: to insert and oftentimes uneducated and that we see a 191 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: lot of out there. So kind of what's your take 192 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: on how that's evolved in terms of everybody wants a 193 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: hot take? Yeah, I'm not a big fan of that 194 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: because there's not much perspective that goes into it. Anytime 195 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: you you you you um, you know, you acknowledge the 196 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: Twitter world in regard to breaking news, I think that's 197 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: always risky or even opinion, because there are most of 198 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: the people on Twitter don't have the perspective that you 199 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: guys do or we do because they're just not around it, 200 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 1: so they face there's on emotions, and I think anytime 201 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: you base an opinion on emotion, neither right after a 202 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: team won or lost, or after a breaking story comes 203 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: out and you and your emotion gets the best of you, 204 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: I think that's always an injustice to what you're trying 205 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: to do in terms of um, you know, at least 206 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: listen to bottom lines. You still have to be factual 207 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: with what you're saying. You can based opinion on that. Well, 208 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: you're an emotional guy, but a happy emotionally. That's what 209 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: I like about you. You can get animated in a call, 210 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: and I love listening to you and listening to you 211 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: talk is You'll get into it, even talking high school sports, anything, 212 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: any sport, it doesn't matter. But you're a happy emotionally. Well, 213 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: hey listen, man, we got a good gig. And you know, 214 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: I've always found that that the passions obviously the number 215 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: one thing, passion, work ethic, whatever, But why not why 216 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: not be why not slant to the positive? You know, man, 217 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: we live in a world where everything is so negative today. 218 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: Why not slant to the positive a little bit? Because 219 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: as you guys see using the ravens as as a template, 220 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of great things that go on 221 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: in your organization off the field, um even on the field. 222 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: The work ethic of some of these guys, their stories 223 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: how they got to uh to Baltimore from where they 224 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: grew up Lamar Jacks is a great a great case 225 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: in point. Why not be positive? You know, we always 226 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: hear a lot of what you can't do in our 227 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: business today, Hey, what can Lamar can't do? Well? What 228 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: can he do? And what he does is he am 229 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: good football player and he's a real impact kind of player. 230 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that a little bit more. Let's talk 231 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: about what these kids in high school and college are 232 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: doing that changes of the landscape a little bit in 233 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: terms of uh, making a difference in their community. Why not? 234 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: Why do we always have to emphasize what you don't 235 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: do well? What has been negative? Man? I think that 236 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: just brings people down, and it's really really were Zania 237 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: and I've just never I've never enjoyed playing that game. 238 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: I grew up watching you guys that may not remember 239 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: his name. God named this Bagley legendary sports caster before 240 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: me at China eleven. He was what we called the 241 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: Dean of local sports casters. He made it cool in 242 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: Baltimore to cover high school sports and he never ever 243 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: took shots at people behind them like uh. He was 244 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: Mr Positive and he's to this day an iconic legend, 245 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: and we all followed his lead. At least I did 246 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: right well. And I think what's so cool about your 247 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: story is just the peaks and valleys of your personal 248 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: story and career you know, UM, and you know you 249 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: you haven't been UM. You know you've unabashedly talked about 250 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: this openly, uh, that that you were addicted to pain 251 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: killers and you were arrested in two thousand six, UM 252 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: for for breaking into a neighbor's home. Uh And and 253 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: you lost your job because of it and went to jail. 254 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: And I mean, I think it's awesome about your story 255 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: that that you went through an addiction and and you 256 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: address your addiction and sought treatment and then came out 257 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: the other side, and and have used that story to 258 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: help others who maybe are facing the same thing. Yeah, 259 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: you know that's a great, great point Ryan. Um. After 260 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: I got over my own self pity and guilt and 261 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: shame and all the normal emotions that come with that, 262 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: that I found Uh, you can even do two things. Man. 263 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: You can stay in that world or you can try 264 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: and dig out of it. But to dig out of it, 265 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: you need a lot of unbelievable support. And I got that, 266 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: UM from my family, and my sister Diane was a 267 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: big influence in that. My kids. Man, when I looked 268 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: up when I when I got arrested and got out 269 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: of jail, I was in shot I was taken down 270 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: to the County Commissioner's office for fail I would be shackles. 271 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: And I went into the office and my father was 272 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: in there. He was very tired in politically in Anterno 273 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: County and the seat of look on his face, Man 274 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: was devastating. And then I saw my kids and I 275 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: realized that I had lost their trust. So I made 276 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: a point at that time that I was going to 277 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: do whatever I could to regain that. And along the 278 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: way I found out who my friends were and who 279 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: they weren't. And my friends who stuck with me Man 280 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: Scott Gars, Kevin Byrne of the Ravens, Steve A. Shaddy 281 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: Um um uh just some guys you may never not 282 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: you may never ever know, but they stuck with me, 283 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: and they got me through the abyss, so to speak. 284 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: And to this day, Man, um, you know, I stay, 285 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: I stay on the right path thinking about their commitment 286 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: to me and how it is just it is, it 287 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: is not it is not an option for me to 288 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: go back in that world. So um the help that 289 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: I got, and I'll use the Ravens as as a 290 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: case in point. I was damn it's good when I 291 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: got out and No, no local TV or radio station 292 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: wanted to touch me. Uh, you guys might not know 293 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: the name Mike Gaffigan. He used to be a used 294 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: to be a sports producer at Channel two with Scott 295 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: carc and I. But he was the vice president communications 296 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: for the maryl And Jockey Club at the time. Um 297 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: at handle Timlcoe and Laurel the Freakness and he made 298 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: a call to Mark Mellow, the news directors up the 299 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: B A L Radio, and said, Hey, I know you 300 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: guys are looking for some help covering the Freakness. Keith 301 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: Mills is available. Give him a call and they had 302 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: to run it up the flagpole. Mark and Ed Skernan, 303 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: who was my guardian angel man at w b AL. 304 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: You guys met Ed, I think a couple of times. 305 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: Unfortunately he retired a couple of years ago. But uh, 306 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: long story short, they gave me a second chance. The 307 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: Ravens gave me a second chance. I'll never forget talking 308 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: with Kevin Byrne when I joined B A L. Uh. 309 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: He said, hey, man, we're glad you're part of the family. 310 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: I said, hey, keV, no more glad than me, and 311 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: he and Steve went out of their way to do 312 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: everything they could to make my experience with you guys, 313 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: um um the best that it could be, and it 314 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: was up to me to uphold the that that responsibility. 315 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: But my affection for everybody over in your building, UM 316 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: that will that is that is just unbelievably cool. Man. 317 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: I love you guys, no doubt about it. I'm curious 318 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: when you come back from that and and you maybe 319 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: it's the first time you walk in the building and 320 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: you're getting that support from Kevin and Steve, is it 321 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: like an emotional thing? You know, when you come back 322 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: into the building and you're doing your job for the 323 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: first time again and all that, and you're here to 324 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: ask the questions and you're here to try to get 325 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: a story and find a good nugget. But I gotta believe, 326 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: like when you're going through that, that it's kind of 327 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: an emotional moment for you to walk back in and 328 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: uh know that that support has been there all along. Yeah, 329 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: it's a great it's a great question, Uh, Garrett. It's 330 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of both. It's it's emotional, but it's also 331 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: a little uh you know, it's like a tech twenty 332 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: two you know, is this um unsaid you know, there's 333 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: this cloud hanging over me and still is to be 334 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: up people lay honest with you, um of of what 335 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: of the addiction and what I went through in the 336 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: substance abuse, but there's also a desire to want to 337 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: get back on your feet and get back on the bike, 338 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: so to speak. So I was kind of caught and 339 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: no man's landing there a little bit. Do I do 340 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: I get back on the horse the way I used 341 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: to passionate and and and just you know, let it, 342 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: let it fly. Or do I take a step back 343 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: and kind of tiptoe around a little bit. So I 344 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: really didn't know what to do. And and you know, 345 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: as time went on, I felt a little bit more comfortable, 346 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: particularly on the air, um you know, and injecting my 347 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: opinion a little bit. So well, that's a great question. 348 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure I answered it the right way, 349 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: but that's I felt. I felt a little. I felt 350 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: a little. I still felt a lot of guilt because 351 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: I let the people down over Channel two. But I 352 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: also felt an amazing sense of of of purpose to 353 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: make sure that B. A. L And the Ravens and 354 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: the Oorls work I did and and all the other 355 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: things I had in my hand in Um, you know 356 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: that that their their trust was justified. So there was 357 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: the course of your career. You saw it all. I 358 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: mean you saw two Super Bowls, some heartbreaking losses. Um, 359 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, ups and downs with the Orioles. I'm curious 360 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: what used your favorite Ravens men? And you saw the team, 361 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: you saw the cold sleeve, the Ravens come back. I 362 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: mean literally you've seen it all. Um. What was your 363 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: favorite Ravens memory that you've covered? Yeah, I did a 364 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 1: top fifteen uh for w B A l my top 365 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: fifteen moments, and then I could have went thirty thirty. 366 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: Ravens were well represented. I would have to say. I'll 367 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: get in a couple of subtle things like seeing Jim 368 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: Brown at the Ravens practice one days right here. But 369 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: number one is is the two thousand Super Bowl, um, 370 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: because that was the first one and there was an 371 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: army of Ravens stands down there. They took over the 372 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: city of Tampa. It was almost like a a a 373 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: message to Paul tag lea boo because they showed up 374 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: loud and proud, man, Kevin will tell you, and they 375 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: took over the city of Tampa, and it was a 376 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: lot of you know, blank you tag lea boo shirts 377 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: and all that. They let the NFL know that Baltimore 378 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: was back, and then how the team played. But at 379 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: the end of the game, Scott Carson and I am 380 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: Marybeth Marrison were doing live shots on the field back 381 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Al though local stations where there, Jaredson, Dusty, 382 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: Bruce Gunningham, everybody was well represented. Mark Taviano and David 383 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: Model brought the Lombardi Trophy around to all of us 384 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: and let us hold it and put it up in 385 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: front of the cameras so all of Baltimore can see. 386 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: And I just talked to my son, who at that 387 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: time was ten years old. It's the first time he'd 388 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: ever been through anything like that, And I said, Nick, 389 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: what was the coolest thing? He said, when Mr Modell 390 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: was holding up the Lombardi Trophy. So there was his 391 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: father on TV back to Baltimore. Hey man, I got 392 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: the hairstand him up in my arm right now. That 393 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: that's that's that's right, that's right there. As number one, 394 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: And and a subtle thing, uh, Number two was after 395 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that you know, just a couple of 396 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: years ago, you guys are down at UM. I missed. 397 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: After all the cossetti dropped and Joe got the m 398 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: d T and everything, I missed. A shuttle back to 399 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: the hotel, and I walked out of the hotel and 400 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: Joe's family, uh, his mom and dadd Steve and camera 401 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: there and all the brothers and and we're walking back 402 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: the mild trips to the hotel on foot. And guys, 403 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: you would have thought that it was an inter squad 404 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: scrimmage that the Ravens just played with each other down 405 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: at the Enable Academy used to have and not won 406 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That's how humble and and cool the 407 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: Flaccos were that their son and brother had just won 408 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: the m DC. I never ever forget it. It It was like, hey, man, hey, 409 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: hey what I was? I was gushing, Hey, thanks a lot, 410 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: and I appreciate it about that, how about the power 411 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: gone down? How the honest it was everything other than 412 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: talking about Joe, which kind of typify the kind of 413 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: player in person that Joe was. They were they were 414 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: getting ready to see that big contract. Well I'll tell 415 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: you what, man, if they did, if they if they 416 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: knew it was coming, they didn't show us the fast forward, 417 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: crazy thing. You know. Tommy Flacco, Joe his brother was 418 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: playing was playing football at Task, but he also played 419 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: baseball and they had a kickoff baseball bank with that. 420 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: I am Seed in February at the Valley Mansion out 421 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: in Cocky where done I can hold the boxing of show. 422 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: So anyway, the Flaccos were there and I saw Steven 423 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: the lobby and I felt real awfered because he had 424 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: just the trade had just been announced that morning, and 425 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: he was going to Denver. And I went up to 426 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: him and said, hey, man, Steve, thanks for everything. He goes, Oh, man, Mildy, 427 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: thanks a lot, he goes. Could not be happier with 428 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: the Ravens. This has been the greatest experience of our lives. 429 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: We've met so many great people. Steve has been unbelievably 430 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: good to us, Kevin's been I'm I'm thinking, what class man, 431 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: what class That's That's what the Ravens and their players 432 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: have meant and stood for all through all these years, 433 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: twenty four years. So, so who are you some of 434 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: your favorite players the cover? I won't say like who 435 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: was the favorite? There are some of your favorite guys. Well, 436 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: at the top of the list, and I did a 437 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: radio show with this guy for four years. He was here, 438 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: was Tony camp tooster Manchus and I got to be 439 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: great friends on and off the field. He was unique, 440 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: he was allowed, he was proud, he was But I 441 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: tell you what he was, guys, he was a player man. 442 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: When when it came game time, no one was more 443 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: prepared to get to that point. You had to sit 444 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: through a whole lot of bravado in that locker room. 445 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: You guys probably have heard the stories Man Rob Burnett, 446 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: Michael McCrary, damn at him. Man. There was a lot 447 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: of loud rob Bernette wasn't loud, but there was a 448 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: lot of strong personalities. Y of course, Rod Woodson, Christma 449 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: Callister was still young at that time. I'm not even 450 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: talking about the offense. This is just on the defense. 451 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: But Goose was the leader, so so he's right there. 452 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: I just mentioned the other guy, Robert Nett when the Ravens, 453 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: when the Browns moved here. I'll never forget this. One 454 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: of the first two days of training camp at Western Maryland. 455 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: At the end of camp, we're getting ready to do 456 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: some live shots. Rob was sitting on the hill by himself, 457 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: looking out over the fielding and you could almost see 458 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: what was going through his mind. What in the world 459 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: has happened in the span of one year, we go 460 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: to play in Cleveland, to move in here, I don't 461 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: know where anybody is. It was you could just see 462 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: on his FACEE So I sat that one. I said, hey, man, 463 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: and we have met in Cleveland actually that last game there? 464 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: What's up? He said the same thing. Gore's man, this 465 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: is kind of crazy. We don't have logos on our helmets. 466 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: We don't have we don't have any colors yet. Where 467 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: the generic And he proceeded in the next couple of 468 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: years to be just an iconic leader in that locker room. 469 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: Um Brian Billick would bring him in engage the team 470 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: in terms of hey do I need to so I 471 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: need to lay the hammer down a little bit? Do 472 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: I need to back off? Rob was everybody's go to 473 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: guys and a Goose, including Goose, so he'll go down. 474 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: Is one of my all time favorites. And another guy 475 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: um that that I got to know really well with 476 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Ed Mulitalo. You know everybody knows Big Ed uh, the 477 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: general giant who would just destroy you have that Tim 478 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: and John odd five hundred fifty pounds side by side. 479 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: You know, j O. I did a you know the radio, 480 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: the pregame show with Jo so many years on v A. 481 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: L the General Giant who again would rip your heart 482 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: out and you know what when when he played against you. 483 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: But I did so much for the people of Baltimore, 484 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: and and you know Ed Reids. I got to know 485 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: Ed really well. Funny story. I was down to see 486 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: I had to do a foundation uh dinner just a 487 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago down and um in Harbor East, 488 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: and I was hanging out at the lock bar right afterwards. 489 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: And I turned around and there was dead Reef standing 490 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: right next to me. He goes I heard you retire. 491 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: Why do you retire? Why did you retire? You got 492 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: this big smile of the space. So what are you 493 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: doing here? He goes, Man, I just came in and 494 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: talked to a group of kids, said Unna, yeah, and Anna, 495 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: who want to make a big deal of it? That's 496 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: the d read that you guys know, right, you guys 497 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: saw that. That's the d read. A lot of guys 498 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: don't a lot of people, a lot of fans don't know. 499 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: They they see the Hall of famer that's going in 500 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. They they see the gambler and 501 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: the guy who used to drive us crazy when he 502 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: would try to lateral back up and intercepted. But they 503 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: never saw the edge that did it on his own 504 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: without pounting your chest in look at me, I'm gonna 505 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: change lives in eastern West Baltimore and he's still doing it. Man. 506 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: So so some of my favorites, but the Ghost is 507 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: the top of the list. We could have a whole 508 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: podcast guy on some of the crazy things he did 509 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, for sure. So you're you're just on a 510 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: roll right now telling stories. I'm curious, Uh, do you 511 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: have a favorite story from either a game or in 512 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: the locker room, whether it's after a game or in practice, Um, 513 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: that stands out to you and your time covering this team. Yeah, 514 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: two of them. One well one wasn't really a player. 515 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: It was a former player. It was Jim Brown. I 516 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: just mentioned him a couple of minutes ago. Jim Brown, 517 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: to my generation, he walked on water Man. Him and 518 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: Johnny United State. They built the NFL. And you know, 519 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: he was very good friends with Mr Modell. This is 520 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: when Mr Modell was still alive, and the team was 521 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: practice at its own at some training camp at it 522 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: Western Maryland or McDaniel, and Mr Modell was driving around 523 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: a golf cart, much like Steve Shott he does now. 524 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: But one day he's driving around and there's Jim Brown 525 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: in the golf cart with him, and I mean everybody 526 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: stopped practice at just sent it. It was stone cold 527 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: silence among the meeting. We were all out in the 528 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: field to fifteen eighteen of us and Jim Brown gets 529 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: out and he walked over to us, goes, what's up. Thought, 530 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: it's just talking like we are now. And we said 531 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: to Mr Modell, is a cool to ask question? He goes, 532 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: ask me some questions. Let's go, man, let's have that. 533 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: So for twenty minutes, guys, he answered questions about the 534 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Browns move, about Mr Model's relationship with him, what really 535 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: happened when he quit football to go in the movies? 536 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: And you you may have heard the story about the 537 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: legendary thirty dozen movies and and just his career and 538 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you, man, we were in all I 539 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: was at least so somebody asked the question. I wish 540 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: I had asked it. I didn't. The question was Mr 541 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: I called him Mr Brown. Everybody called him. I called 542 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: him Mr Brown. So somebody said, Jim, what was your 543 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: favorite Spourts moment of all time? And remember nineteen four 544 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: to Brown when you may not the Brown beat the 545 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: old Baltimore Colts, which to this day is one of 546 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: the most devastating losses in city history. But I thought 547 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: he was gonna say that because it was his own 548 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: NFL championship. He goes, nah, he goes nothing football. He goes. 549 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: A lot of you guys may know I played lacrosse. 550 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: I was pretty damn good lacrosse player. A matter of fact, 551 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: this is Jim Brown. I was the best lacrosse player 552 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: in the country. And he goes, the North South Senior 553 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: All Star Game was played right down here in Baltimore 554 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: John's Hoppins with all the preppy guys. Because all the 555 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: preppy guys are out there and me, and he goes, 556 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: you know what, I won the MVP of that game. 557 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: And that is the biggest fourth moment I've had. WHOA man, 558 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: this is awesome, Jim Brown saying he took it to 559 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: the prep guys at Hopkins in Maryland and all these 560 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: guys that played lacrosse the Virginia UM. The other thing 561 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: was it was a two story. Uh. The year after 562 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Uh, there was a big question mark. 563 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: Was he gonna hold out because his contract was up? 564 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: And according to Goose, it was all about leverage. And 565 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: about fifth tea minutes before practice, helicopter comes down and 566 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: lands back in the backfields at McDaniel College. It was 567 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Goose getting out getting ready to come to practice and say, boys, 568 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: here we are, let's go. So that's that's usually like 569 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown did that. That's usually for the DIVA wide receivers, 570 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: not a big old run style. Well, you guys heard 571 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: the story about the the Eagles Ravens preseason game in 572 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: two thousand and I think it's two thousand one, after 573 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I got canceled here about that was 574 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: earth when the turf. Yeah, and Goose said about a 575 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: week before there was some talk about the turf being 576 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: torn up at that statium because of the baseball you know, 577 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: teams playing baseball on it. He goes, listen, my brother 578 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: runs the teams re union in Jersey and Philly. He 579 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: said this on a radio show. They're not gonna play 580 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: that game. I guarantee you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. So 581 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: the coverage opens up at seven thirty eight o'clock kick 582 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: off seven thirty three Games Show with Goose, Brian Billick, 583 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: Troy Vincent, who was the player rep for the Eagles, 584 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: and Andy Reid or on all four checking the baseball 585 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: cutouts because they were all ripped up but they were 586 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: literally pulling the turf ball. So you know what, they 587 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: didn't play the game, you got canceled. So I feel 588 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: like I remember watching that. Actually, that's awesome. That was crazy. 589 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: So Keith, well we'll let you go on this one. 590 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: But you know, what do you think you'll miss most? Uh? 591 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: You know when you when you retire, studo retire when 592 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: it's all over, and and what's next for you? What 593 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: are you gonna spend your time doing? Now? Yeah, that's 594 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: a great question, right, I'm gonna miss the people. It's 595 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: all about the people. It's all about the relationship. You 596 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: hear that all the time and sports. It's the truth. 597 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna miss getting up at one thirty in 598 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: the morning to start to day and getting back at 599 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: from Raymonds for at six o'clock or whatever. But I will, 600 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: and I've already started to miss the people man, the 601 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: men and women I've worked with. I had a chance 602 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: to work with Oprah Winfrey when I was young man. 603 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: She worked at Towne thirteen, and the people we crossed 604 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: paths with. Don't ever take for granted the relationships that 605 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: you fill with these people, because it's like it's it's 606 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: it lasts forever. And some of the people I've met 607 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: just incredible. So I'll miss that. Um, I'll miss the 608 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: see I'm keeping my hand in it though a lot 609 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: of people know. I'm gonna be doing a free game 610 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: of post game for B A L. So I'll be 611 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: very visible around the complex with you guys, with the 612 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: school and Navy football is I've always wanted to do that. Um, 613 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: So I'll keep my hand in it with that. But 614 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: it's just the people man that you guys, Kevin, it's 615 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Glease, and it's Tommy Valente, It's it's Uh, it's 616 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: Eric and Ozzy and those guys. They've all been unbelievably 617 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: good to me. I will, I will. I will still 618 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: be around, but um, you know, Mandy, but Sarah and 619 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: the people I work with, the W B A L 620 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: t V. Brian Neiman, Fred owen are on the radio. 621 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: I'll miss the day to day interacting with those guys 622 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: absolutely well. Man, I'm not letna tell you what, brother, 623 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm not missing getting up at one thirty or more. 624 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: I don't blame you, I don't thank you for that 625 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: at all. We'll miss we'll miss you around here too, 626 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: but we know that. Um. You know you'll still obviously 627 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: have a presence here during the season and we look 628 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: forward to that same here guys. Man, love what you do. 629 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: This the Lounge podcast, man is one of the best 630 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: of the best. I give you guys credit and looking 631 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: forward to here in John, that's gonna be fun. Thanks 632 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: so much, all right, guys, talk cool. Thank you to Keith. UM. 633 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: Always love talking to him. He has such great energy, 634 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: like you can see, Um, he just had fun covering 635 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: teams over the course of his career. And I think 636 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: that like when Keith walks into the room, he lights 637 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: it up, and UM, it's it's just fun to talk 638 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: to him any chance you get. Yeah. I also love 639 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: like the vertical crease he's got, Like like you know, 640 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: like most people have like fourhead creases that go horizontally, 641 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: He's got the vertical, which is a distinct look for Keith, 642 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: and it's awesome. He wears it well, he wears it well. 643 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: It's just's just kind of his thing, you know, like 644 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: everybody has like their trademark, Like I have terrible hair. 645 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: Everybody knows that that's my trademark. Which you have a 646 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: five hit? Yes, so yeah, well definitely knows my hair. Um, 647 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: so that was Keith on top of course, fantastic. I 648 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: love Keith's got the Baltimore accident down. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 649 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: I love that and he never shot away from it. 650 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: So it's it's just fun to talk to him. Wish 651 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: him the best in his suitor retirement, and I'm sure 652 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: he's enjoying life down there in Florida. So uh as always, 653 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: you can reach us at the Lounge at ravenstot NFL 654 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: dot net. Once again, submith audio questions. We haven't had 655 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: in this a little while. The best one will get 656 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: a chance to come out to practice. You don't know 657 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: which one. We're just making this up on the fly, 658 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: but we'll watch you out. Yeah, the person who sends 659 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: in the best audio question we'll get two passes of 660 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: training camp practice and maybe an appearance on the lounge. 661 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want to over promise. Here over promise 662 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: undelivery exactly Boom. Thanks for listening. We'll be back to 663 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: you next week.