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Speaker 3: The World's of veget podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Urie

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Speaker 3: in Brazil wants to know where else can I listen

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Speaker 3: to Paul Parrillo talk if you're a local any library.

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Speaker 4: I was there a couple of years ago and Christmas,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, fine, I mean, granted, like I'm

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Speaker 4: not playing in the game, but I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Tired of all.

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Speaker 2: But as I don't know, this altitude thing doesn't really

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Speaker 2: bother me.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. AFC East Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Run the East. Josh Allen at six touchdowns though, so

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Speaker 2: get ready in a few.

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Speaker 3: Oh you guys, and you're get ready be here. I

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Speaker 3: don't want any piece of Mahomes. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: had pieces of him and they're beaten them.

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Speaker 4: You want to play Mahomes in a wildcard game? I

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Speaker 4: don't know, Like just like that, you're one and done

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Speaker 4: in all this great juju that we have this season.

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Speaker 2: So you've already lost the game.

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Speaker 3: Now you want the number one scene, right, and you

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Speaker 3: guys are afraid who's wanting to All of.

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Speaker 4: A sudden Baltimore sneaks in or Kansas City sneaks in,

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Speaker 4: and now you're playing one of those teams, and.

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Speaker 3: Now we're going to lose. All season. We're being told

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Speaker 3: you got an easy schedule, easy schedule. Then you get

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs and you want more easy schedule. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you know who taught me that, Fred Kurk, not me,

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Speaker 3: not me. I take on all comers. Oh yeah, this

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Speaker 3: is Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here at Jillese Stadium,

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Speaker 3: and it's Evan, it's Paul. No, wow, not Paul. It's

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Speaker 3: deuced to me Alex and Matt and the booth. Paul

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Speaker 3: is out. He actually traveled to New York today to

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Speaker 3: appeal the Jamar Chase uh non appeal. He wants to

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Speaker 3: Chase to be able to play. He can't believe that

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Speaker 3: the league upheld this.

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Speaker 4: Well, I know that it wasn't. Actually that's not the

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Speaker 4: president wasn't yet.

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Speaker 5: Right, so right, you were saying that actually sneezed, and

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Speaker 4: But he's they're setting a real precedent with Jaen Carter.

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Speaker 3: So now I guess this if according to Paul, now

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Speaker 3: we kid. Paul is out though he's got some stuff

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Speaker 3: to take care of today, So it's the three of us.

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Speaker 5: I think Alex might be joining us a little later.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to stay with you, Fred, I'm not going

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Speaker 5: to go to the locker room. We don't want to

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Speaker 3: Be the first time I've done solo before.

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Speaker 2: Everyone loves f you.

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Speaker 3: I've done so low before.

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Speaker 2: Have you thought what do you do?

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Speaker 5: I was thinking about Nicetuff Christian ar can't have me

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Speaker 5: how do you do a solo?

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Speaker 2: And Joe Murray does it? How do you do a solo?

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Speaker 3: It's just stream of consciousness and like you're just sitting

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Speaker 3: You repeat yourself a lot.

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Speaker 4: You need a good producer so that you can talk

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Speaker 4: at least have the producer talk a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Well, and our show, it's not too bad because you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough with the you know, the state of radio. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, Okay, so today is our turn

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Speaker 3: the page day and Rabel what time is he today?

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Speaker 3: Every week, it's a little later, a little later practice

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Speaker 5: I think pulling back a little bit on the schedule generally,

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Speaker 2: Late by a week.

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Speaker 3: So so we do turn the page on Wednesday, and

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Speaker 3: at the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Let me just cross off.

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Speaker 3: And according to Evans' game plan that I just read

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Speaker 3: that you haven't posted, Look, you're posting it tomorrow, little

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Speaker 3: sneak preview. You're not very high on their defense.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to be.

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Speaker 4: We were just talking about this on Catch twenty two

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Speaker 4: Bengals defense, especially without Trey Hendrickson, it's it's hard. Like

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Speaker 4: and that's not an exaggeration.

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Speaker 3: So why did they get rid of Amorano or whatever

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Speaker 4: So they were bad last year on defense, but they've

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Speaker 3: So good news for the Patriots. Trey Hendrickson isn't going

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Speaker 5: But look, Joe Flacco has been around a while, and

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Speaker 2: Well, and they don't run the ball either.

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Speaker 4: They take a little bit off of them. His biggest

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Speaker 4: Kind of I've kind of thought that way for a

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Speaker 4: a lot of talent. I've never been blown away by

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Speaker 4: I think that he's the biggest thing with Yoshivas is

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Speaker 4: that's the one thing when I look at this matchup

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think both those guys are capable of

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Speaker 3: I mean, I had a relative that used to be

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Speaker 3: I said, they don't have the liquidity that a lot

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Speaker 4: But I think that they've drafted well outside of this pocket.

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Speaker 3: That, but the kind of injuries that Burrows had, one

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Speaker 4: Really, I mean, but he's dropping back to pass a

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Speaker 3: Like, and you just came he was, he got pounded.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is you know, Burrow might come back

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Speaker 3: Would he go to.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't rule anything out.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to willingly trade him. But if he

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Speaker 2: And everybody knows what the Bengals are.

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Speaker 2: A little while. They I mean, the running game is

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Speaker 2: Of course, any team that loses a guy like Joe Burrow, it's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's you know, you have to continuously

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Speaker 3: Doesn't strike me as the kind of person who's complacent,

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Speaker 2: Right well, And that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: For a playoff push, being able to you know, do

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Speaker 5: It's it's you know, I mean, yeah, they'll they'll win

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Speaker 4: You know they'll be a it's a great defense draft

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so if they.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how Demetrius Night's been to him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's if you if you swapped out the Patriots

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Speaker 4: guys are not any better, but they're younger, so they're

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Speaker 4: trying to develop them so they're playing. Like I just

440
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Speaker 4: I think the other thing with the Bengals is like,

441
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Speaker 4: would why would you bring Burrow back? And I know

442
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Speaker 4: he wants to play, and I know he's a competitor

443
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Speaker 4: and all that kind of stuff, but like you're going

444
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Speaker 4: to bring him back at like three and eight or

445
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Speaker 4: three and nine to do what to win games?

446
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Speaker 2: That's going to hurt your draft pick.

447
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But and like it just I think it's good

448
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Speaker 3: for the culture.

449
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Speaker 2: I guess. I mean, I don't know.

450
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Speaker 3: I mean, your best player wants to play.

451
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Speaker 4: I think I think I think there's everybody knows that

452
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Speaker 4: he wants.

453
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Speaker 3: To But but and he's going to play like like

454
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Speaker 3: nothing's holding him back. I think that's that's good for

455
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Speaker 3: the culture. I if I was a fan, i'd like

456
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Speaker 3: to see.

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Speaker 5: If I was in the front office, I would totally

458
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Speaker 5: agree with Evan if like, you know, don't. But as

459
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Speaker 5: a coach and wanting to understand where this team's mentality is,

460
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Speaker 5: there is some value to me as a coach. Not

461
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Speaker 5: looking forward to the draft or playoffs or any of that,

462
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Speaker 5: but you know, getting a chance to see what's this

463
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Speaker 5: team look like when our guy is back under center.

464
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Speaker 2: If I was Duke Tobin and he comes back and

465
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Speaker 2: they win, Like, do.

466
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Speaker 3: They play any teams down the road that are factors

467
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Speaker 3: with us? Like, I mean they love him to play

468
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Speaker 3: spoiler for us.

469
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Speaker 2: I mean, they probably played Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

470
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Speaker 3: There you go, look real quick.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm sure, so maybe maybe we should.

472
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Speaker 3: Be right exactly going to the Patriots side of the ball.

473
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Speaker 3: You mentioned Stevenson as a possibility. What about who?

474
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no word on who. We don't know.

475
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Speaker 4: Ye well yeah, Raybel wasn't asked about him. He sounded

476
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Speaker 4: optimistic about Booty and Stevenson. Yeah, or at least that

477
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Speaker 4: they're going to practice and and we'll see.

478
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Speaker 3: Because I'm just thinking, you know, you when as soon

479
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Speaker 3: as somebody says, oh, the linebackers aren't good, I think

480
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Speaker 3: tight ends, Yeah, tight ends over the middle.

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Speaker 4: Well, I would say the biggest thing is running backs

482
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Speaker 4: with them. They've had absolutely terrible time covering running backs.

483
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Speaker 4: Ganewell had a big game against them.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

485
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Speaker 4: So you know, if Henderson can get loose a little

486
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Speaker 4: bit in this game, sure, Jack.

487
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Speaker 5: West, uhje, but it would be nicely walking from I'm

488
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Speaker 5: not going to pick on Jack West.

489
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Travon Henderson is the type of player that has

490
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Speaker 4: given them problems. You know, Gan Will had two touchdowns

491
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Speaker 4: last week and like eighty eighty receiving yards, so that

492
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Speaker 4: that backs out of the backfield have been a big

493
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Speaker 4: issue for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

495
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Speaker 3: Josh McDaniels licking his chops this week.

496
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Speaker 2: I hope, So, I hope.

497
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Speaker 4: So this is the type of game that I feel

498
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Speaker 4: like is the most fun for him because like you

499
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Speaker 4: can just put this defense into a pretzel.

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Speaker 2: Right. They have a lot of young players playing.

501
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Speaker 4: You watch their film and there's coverage bus left and

502
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Speaker 4: right because they don't know how to handle things, like

503
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Speaker 4: you know, we're gonna motion here, We're going to release

504
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Speaker 4: out of a bunch there, We're gonna go three by

505
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Speaker 4: one and then we're gonna distribute it like this, and

506
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Speaker 4: like the Bengals are just like running all over the place.

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Speaker 5: Held always get a sense when some goods coming when

508
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Speaker 5: the defense is all looking at Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the amount of times I almost like

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Speaker 4: screenshot the amount of times I saw palms up on

511
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Speaker 4: the film from the Bengals defense, being like I thought you.

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Speaker 2: Had them, you know, and real quick.

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Speaker 5: Fred, to your point, I mean, I think Patriot fans

514
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Speaker 5: should should want Burrough to come back and play well

515
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Speaker 5: because their remaining schedu will be at Ravens at Bill's

516
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Speaker 5: versus Ravens at Dolphins, to Cardinals and Browns.

517
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Speaker 3: But yeah, three of those games are huge for us.

518
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Speaker 5: They're gonna have some impact on the Let's go, Joe,

519
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Speaker 5: Let's go, come on, Joe.

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Speaker 4: It's also like you know, long game, like I would

521
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Speaker 4: not like the Bengals to have a great draft pick.

522
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Speaker 4: So you know, as a Patriots fan, it's it's double trouble. Like, right,

523
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Speaker 4: if I'm Duke Tobin and Joe Burrow comes back and

524
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Speaker 4: wins like three games at the end of the year,

525
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Speaker 4: now I'm picking eleventh instead of third, I'm gonna lose

526
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Speaker 4: my mind.

527
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Speaker 5: There's gonna be a lot of jockeying at that, like

528
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Speaker 5: top ten picks this year. I mean, Patriots have been

529
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Speaker 5: in that mix the last couple of years and we

530
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Speaker 5: play that game of like.

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Speaker 2: Where are they going to end up? What's it going

532
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Speaker 2: to look like?

533
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Speaker 5: But yeah, this year there's quite a few teams with one,

534
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Speaker 5: two wins, three wins that probably gonna be in that

535
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Speaker 5: mix for that those top picks.

536
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Speaker 3: All right, if five pass five hundred is the hotline

537
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Speaker 3: podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address again,

538
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Speaker 3: we'll have Mike Rable at about one ten today. Evan

539
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Speaker 3: will be going to the locker room. Dude will be

540
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Speaker 3: hanging around. Alex might be coming in a little later.

541
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Speaker 3: Paul is out for the day. He's got some things

542
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Speaker 3: to attend to. So we'll we'll just have to, you know,

543
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Speaker 3: carry on without him, carry on or carry car.

544
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Speaker 2: We'll just have to carry on, not carry on, carry on.

545
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Speaker 2: One last stat this was chupped out.

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Speaker 5: They given up six hundred and fifty rushing yards in

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Speaker 5: the last three years, and most of it was the

548
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Speaker 5: previous two.

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Speaker 2: Last week, I think they gave up one hundred and ten.

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Speaker 5: But like they can't tackle ramondra Stevenson coming back at

551
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Speaker 5: a good time to work him in, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm just excited to get him back. Now that Henderson

553
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Speaker 5: has some juice and just to see if they can

554
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Speaker 5: kind of figure out how do how do we manage

555
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Speaker 5: these two guys, how can it work?

556
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Speaker 2: Well, what's the rotation that's going to be best for

557
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Speaker 2: this team?

558
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Speaker 5: Because you know, I continue to believe that the Patriots

559
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Speaker 5: are really going to make a push here in December

560
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Speaker 5: into the playoffs. They need ramondros Stevenson and Henderson to

561
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Speaker 5: be playing well and to support drake Man.

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Speaker 3: And it would be nice to have a game where,

563
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Speaker 3: like the running game is consistent. Yeah you know, I'm

564
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Speaker 3: talking about explosives. I'm talking about over four yards to carry, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know.

566
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Speaker 5: And that's what's like kind of it's a little frustrating

567
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Speaker 5: because you see, you know, people on social media will

568
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Speaker 5: post like, you know, Trayvon Henderson's average running averages up

569
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Speaker 5: to this now, and it's like, well.

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he had two humongous runs.

571
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Speaker 5: Like can we really you know, can we all acknowledge

572
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Speaker 5: like averages and that stuff, Like, yes, he had.

573
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Speaker 2: Some explosive plays, but there's.

574
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Speaker 5: Still a lot to be desired from this running game

575
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Speaker 5: and you know, finding that consistency.

576
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Speaker 3: That being able to run when they know you want.

577
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Speaker 4: To run, Yeah, I thought doubt you know they did

578
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Speaker 4: that a little bit against the Jets, which was encouraging.

579
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Speaker 4: You know, the end of the game situation where they

580
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Speaker 4: ran the ball on third and three and goal line,

581
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Speaker 4: you know, things like that. But you know, I keep

582
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Speaker 4: going back with Henderson and Stevenson to Montgomery and Gibbs

583
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Speaker 4: in Detroit, Like that's the I don't know if that

584
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Speaker 4: they are that both that good, yeah, but like that's

585
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Speaker 4: the vision of like how to use both of them together.

586
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Speaker 4: Is that one is you know, you play about fifty

587
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Speaker 4: to fifty percent of the snaps and once kind of

588
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Speaker 4: year between the tackles guy and one's sort of your

589
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Speaker 4: home run hitter, and you mix and match it and

590
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Speaker 4: you go that direction, and you know, Detroit. I don't

591
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Speaker 4: think Detroit is at all disappointed that Montgomery plays a

592
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Speaker 4: little bit. Like he's a good player for them, and

593
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Speaker 4: I you know, Gibbs is awesome. And I think Gibbs

594
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Speaker 4: not having the whole workload on his shoulders helps give

595
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Speaker 4: in the long run because I think he's fresh more often.

596
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Speaker 2: That's where I always end up in all this you

597
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Speaker 2: know debate, is Henderson overtaking it? He's the number one.

598
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Speaker 5: I'm like, guys like you need two guys and that's

599
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Speaker 5: the ideal thing. It's you know, it's not in a

600
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Speaker 5: perfect world that Trayon Henderson is going to carry the

601
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Speaker 5: ball every single time for the rest of the season,

602
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Speaker 5: like he's great, But I think the offense as a

603
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Speaker 5: hole and both of those players will be better, including

604
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Speaker 5: Drake May if they find some balance and they what.

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Speaker 3: If you have some packages where both of them are

606
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Speaker 3: they feel the same time you have like split them

607
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Speaker 3: out a pony or whatever. Yeah, the pony, why not?

608
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Speaker 3: You know, you know, two tight ends sets, you have

609
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Speaker 3: two running back sets.

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Speaker 2: Let's go sets very much back pony sets down down.

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Speaker 5: I just I and part of me is and this

612
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Speaker 5: is probably the wishy washy fan of like Hope, but

613
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Speaker 5: like there's part of me that's like, man, is c J.

614
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Speaker 5: Dupre gonna come in and be like a real legit

615
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Speaker 5: blocking tight end to help maybe unlock some of this

616
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Speaker 5: running game. I mean that might just be. It might

617
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Speaker 5: be as simple as someone wanted to sign him and

618
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Speaker 5: they didn't, and they promoted him and they wanted to

619
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Speaker 5: keep which I do think is a sign that this

620
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Speaker 5: place wants to save guys that they That.

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Speaker 3: Reminds me about what's the deal with Swinson?

622
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the same That was the same thing. That

623
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Speaker 5: was what Mike re kind of intimated. I don't know

624
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 5: if there's ever a firm of h Yeah, it seems

625
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 5: like to sign him.

626
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Speaker 2: Both him and did Pre were in the same boat

627
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Speaker 2: that there was.

628
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Speaker 5: Somebody either had eva I mean, either one could have

629
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Speaker 5: been elevated, right they still Yeah, it.

630
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Speaker 4: Sounded like it was fifty three man roster poaching going

631
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Speaker 4: on that bullet both those guys. I I don't really

632
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Speaker 4: see a path for Swinson to get playing time because

633
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Speaker 4: you have Landry and Chase on aren't going anywhere. Those

634
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 4: guys are going to play Ponders already trying to like

635
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: knock on the door and they can't really find him

636
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 4: snaps very consistently. They already don't play, and Ferny Jennings,

637
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Speaker 4: they already don't really play Tavai on the edge. So

638
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: like Swinson's kind of like your sixth guy right now

639
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: at that position. Do Pre I think there's more of

640
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: a path, Yeah, because their tight ends have been in blocking.

641
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Speaker 4: It's been up and down for both Henry and Hooper.

642
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 4: Hooper's a little bit better, uh, you know, going into

643
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Speaker 4: draft season all that stuff, like getting like a really

644
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 4: good all around tight end to kind of replenish that position,

645
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 4: but also just somebody that is a little bit of

646
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: a better blocker as well. I mean that I think

647
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Speaker 4: I think Drake May likes throwing the tight ends, and

648
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: I think that the tight end is a huge, huge

649
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 4: part of how teams are drawing up schemes these days.

650
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: So I would love to see the Patriots do that.

651
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 5: I mean, those kind of thoughts going through my head

652
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 5: just watching some of the Bengals are playing all three

653
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: tight ends.

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00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're playing a.

655
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Speaker 4: Team tight ends, but you know, guys like you know,

656
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: I know, obviously he's a hell of a player, but

657
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 4: somebody like Tyler Warren is like now becoming one of

658
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: the more valuable chess pieces because of how well he

659
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Speaker 4: blocks and how he can flex out and catch the

660
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Speaker 4: football too. And so everybody's going to tight end. They're

661
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 4: going big, uh, And if you have an inline tight

662
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Speaker 4: end that can block and catch passes from that spot,

663
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Speaker 4: it's a really really like it might even be equal

664
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Speaker 4: to like having like a great outside receiver.

665
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Speaker 3: At this point, the defense is, you know it, they're

666
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: so reactionary and cyclical in this league, you know, offense

667
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: makes an adjustment and then defense suggests you know, I'm

668
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: talking about league wide. Yeah, and right now, like you said,

669
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: you know, uh, teams are you know, starting to get

670
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: bigger on offense and trying to play a little bit

671
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: more bullyball, and defenses are having to adjust.

672
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Speaker 5: It was a good point of conversation on NFL Live

673
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Speaker 5: yesterday with Orlowsky. They were going through some of the

674
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Speaker 5: contenders and saying what might their flaw be, and Orlosky

675
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 5: is point out that the Patriots play a ton of nickel,

676
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 5: and his flawed for the Patriots was if a team

677
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 5: really commits to running the ball, And it goes back

678
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Speaker 5: to a little bit what Evan was saying, you know

679
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 5: yesterday that you know, that could be a flaw where

680
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 5: they're not they don't really have the heavy personne I

681
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 5: mean they're a huge nickel team.

682
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Speaker 2: That was part of the research.

683
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Speaker 5: I mean their third and amount of nickel twenty eighth

684
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Speaker 5: and base twenty first in dimes.

685
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Speaker 3: Okay, so the third and nickel, but what is the gap?

686
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Speaker 3: Because most teams play majority of nickel these days, don't they? Yes, yeah, yeah, I.

687
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 4: Think that Seattle plays like the most I said this

688
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: on cash point two. I like Dan. I think I

689
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 4: respect his opinion a lot. I think it's the total

690
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 4: opposite of what he said.

691
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's what I realized I was saying, because

692
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Speaker 2: you said on second time.

693
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Speaker 4: I would be so much more paranoid about a team

694
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Speaker 4: that's throwing the ball on first and second down to

695
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 4: the Patriots then running the ball. Right, If you want

696
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Speaker 4: to come in here in a playoff game in the

697
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: wildcard round and try to beat the Patriots running the football,

698
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: I say, be my guest, because what you're going to

699
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: do two things. You're running into a strength of their

700
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: defense one and two you're going to keep the score down.

701
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Speaker 2: Right, So like you're telling me that.

702
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: Drake Ma can win the playoff game scoring twenty four points,

703
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: Like I would take that all day, every day.

704
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: So it just but that's the league right now. The

705
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: league is a.

706
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Speaker 4: It's a game of chicken, Like can you stop the

707
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 4: run well enough out of Nickel that you don't need

708
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Speaker 4: to put an extra linebacker on the field. And if

709
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: you do put an extra linebacker on the field, can

710
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: we throw out of twelve against your linebackers?

711
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: Like that?

712
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: That's the chess match, right now that's happening. Which is

713
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: why it's making the tight end so valuable. Is because

714
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: if you get teams into base, well now they're going

715
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: to throw against base, but you still need to put

716
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: the twelve personnel on the field to get them to

717
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 4: put base on the field. So like if you don't,

718
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: if you can't run the ball against nickel and run

719
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Speaker 4: them out of nickel, then why would they put the

720
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Speaker 4: extra linebacker on the field. And to this point, at

721
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Speaker 4: least the Patriots, they're not a great nickel run defense,

722
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: but they're good enough that they don't need to overreact

723
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 4: to putting the linebacker on the field. And I think

724
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: that that's the whole thing. Like if you get them

725
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: to blink and then now you have Taviay, Gibbons and

726
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: Splaine all on the field because they can't stop the run,

727
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 4: well now they're going to throw against you.

728
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 3: Speaking of trends, Barton Poland writes in on May and

729
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: the lack of three hundred yard passing games. Passing numbers

730
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: are down across the entire league in recent years. It's

731
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Speaker 3: partly the way defenses play now, but also the kickoff

732
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: rule changes the average starting field position based jumped from

733
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: around the twenty to around the thirty in the last

734
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: ten to fifteen years. Naturally, it's much harder to reach

735
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: three hundred yards when offenses face consistent short fields. I

736
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: honestly don't even know if we'll have a forty five

737
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: hundred yard pass of this season in seventeen games, where

738
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: when there were seasons with sixteen games where multiple qbs

739
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: hit five thousand, and obviously we are often leading in

740
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, so we don't have to pass the ball.

741
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: So he's kind of justifying why Drake hasn't had any

742
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: three hundred yard passing games.

743
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: Played some good defenses too.

744
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I think you look at the records of

745
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 5: the team they played, that's pretty bad, but the quality

746
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: of the defenses he played have not been terrible.

747
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: Well. He brings up a good point though, I mean,

748
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: the average starting drive it's about the thirty, about the thirty.

749
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: If that's like five more yards than it was before

750
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: the new kickoff rule, then do the math that's five

751
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: yards less, you know, eight nine yard you'll multiply that. Yeah, yeah, I.

752
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: Mean Drake's on pace.

753
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 4: He leased the league right now passing yards on pace

754
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: for about forty three hundred, so it's not to Bart's point,

755
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 4: it's not. You know, you're not going to see a

756
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 4: five thousand yard passer in the league. But I think

757
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 4: the kickoff thing, not to get on a whole tangent

758
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: about the kickoff thing, I think this is a problem

759
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: that the field is shortened because the offenses are too good.

760
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: So like now you know they have to go like

761
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 3: twenty five yards and you're in field goal.

762
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Speaker 4: Right, because it's not only are the offenses better, but

763
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: the kickers are a lot better too. So like if

764
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: you're the Cowboys, you could start in field goal range

765
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: for Brandon Aubrey on a lot of these drives because

766
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: you're starting at like you're thirty five, you know, and

767
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 4: like you so, what do they need fifteen yards to

768
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: put Aubrey in field goal range? Especially inside? So I

769
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: think that as much as I liked at the kickoffs

770
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 4: are back in the game and they're getting these returns,

771
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: it is a little bit problematic in terms of like

772
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: there's a lot easier to go on a scoring drive,

773
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: not necessarily a touchdown drive, but just to get into

774
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: field goal range at the end of the game or

775
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 4: in a two minute scenario, you need like two first

776
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 4: downs to be in field goal range, like the game

777
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: winning drive that Drake mayled in Buffalo. I think he

778
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 4: had two. There was two first downs, and it's like

779
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: it should be harder than that, right, Like it should

780
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: be a little bit harder.

781
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: Let's see what Michael in Texas has to say on

782
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: the hotline. What's up, Michael, Hey, thanks.

783
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 7: For taking my call. It So, I've got a bit

784
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 7: of a concern with the offensive play, and I'm really

785
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 7: just curious if it justified concern or if it's just pessimism.

786
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 7: I did hear it brought up once before by Christian

787
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 7: in La, but maybe his insufferable nature led to more

788
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 7: animated responses from everybody and it was more of a

789
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 7: response to Christian himself than a concern. But it does

790
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,959
Speaker 7: feel like throughout the game, the other team's scoring, then

791
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 7: they come in hot, they stay hot, and then I

792
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 7: don't want to say that they let off the gas,

793
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 7: but maybe it is more of Maybe it was Evan

794
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 7: who coined it as them being cute and that lending

795
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 7: itself to them not just closing out a game, you know,

796
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 7: for example, the Jets game. I feel like that game

797
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 7: should have been closed out before it hit halftime, but

798
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 7: it wasn't because something was happening. Maybe they were getting cute.

799
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 7: Things just weren't clicking right.

800
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 8: But do you guys feel that that's justified at all,

801
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 8: that they are getting hot at a point and then

802
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 8: throughout the game they're starting to kind of teeter off

803
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 8: and letting the other game come in or is it

804
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 8: more pessimism.

805
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: Thanks Mike.

806
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot going on.

807
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 5: I think part of it is you've had one running

808
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 5: back really the last few weeks that you you know,

809
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: it's kind of all on Drake, and it's also a

810
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 5: young team.

811
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: Like I just I think there's going to be some incase.

812
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: But I think there were a few games where they

813
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: did take their foot off the gas. But I mean,

814
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: teams have adjusted in the second half, and that's been

815
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: a kind of a mile concern.

816
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 4: There's anecdotally, there's evidence of that. You know, the Atlanta game,

817
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: they'd score three points after halftime. Now they lost Kishan

818
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 4: Booty at halftime basically, and then they were down Stevenson

819
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 4: and Booty the rest of the way and that was

820
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 4: in game. Like it's one thing to practice all week

821
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: like that, it's another thing to lose your starting X

822
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 4: receiver in game and then have to recover from that

823
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 4: against a good defense in Atlanta. I just and maybe

824
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: this is just optimism to his pestimism, Like if they

825
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 4: have to keep scoring, I have confidence that they're going

826
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: to find a way to keep scoring. And like I

827
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: don't know if they have to keep scoring against the Jets,

828
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 4: Like I know we would all love to see them

829
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 4: blow doors on the against the Jets and score fifty.

830
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: I get that, but like they didn't really need to,

831
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 4: so like when they when if they have to, if

832
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: they get pushed and they have to score into the

833
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: thirties to win a game, like I still think that

834
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 4: they could do it.

835
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I it'd be interesting to see it, because what

836
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 3: we are seeing this year is like on these third

837
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: and gotta have it plays. This is a different team

838
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 3: than we've the one we've seen the last three years,

839
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 3: or like they're making deals plays those they're making those

840
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: big plays. So if pushed, if they had to rev

841
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: it up in the third and fourth quarter, yeah, you know,

842
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: could they do it. I think they've got what it

843
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: takes to do it.

844
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean.

845
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 5: That's what I'm watching for down the stretch and into

846
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 5: the playoffs. Is you know, Drake may and got to

847
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 5: have it back and forth late in the game. You know,

848
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 5: need a drive those You know, we've had a few

849
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 5: of those moments this year, but but not a lot really.

850
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 5: I mean, it's been kind of like the Patriots have

851
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 5: been a couple of steps ahead and they've been able

852
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 5: to stay a couple of steps ahead, but they haven't

853
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 5: had that.

854
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: Right you're down in the fourth quarter, here we go.

855
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 5: I mean, then it goes back to what I said

856
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 5: going into the season, like, is Drake clutch? That's you know,

857
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 5: I mean for all the MVP and everything. I mean,

858
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 5: he's had some clutch moments. But you know, we'll see.

859
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 5: I think they're really gonna have to get the best

860
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 5: out of him against these best teams down the stretch.

861
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: Nick writes in from Ohio, and by the way, if

862
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: you need dry wall in Ohio, Fayette Drywall one of

863
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: the area's longest lasting contractor since nineteen eighty four, celebrating

864
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: forty years. I can say that because they're not a

865
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: competitor in Ohio. Just give Nick a little shout out. Uh,

866
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: he says, I'm sure this has been mentioned, but I'm

867
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: also an Ohio native, and I'd say leadership is the

868
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: biggest issue in the Bengals room. Not to say they

869
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: can't remember the Titans themselves and pull it all together,

870
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: but they have something similar happen as what happened with

871
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 3: Diggs in the sake of the humility we have seen

872
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 3: come into our team from a fan perspective, not saying

873
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: someone needs to get injured. I don't even know what

874
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 3: he's talking about. Don't use this drywall the emails, like

875
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: the dry I thought he was. I thought he was

876
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: going somewhere, but he kind.

877
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: Of lost I see what he's saying.

878
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 5: I thought he was a culture problem and they don't

879
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 5: really have leadership, and without I thought.

880
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: It was a good leader.

881
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that like I thought he was going

882
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 4: front office because I know that right now the Duke

883
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: Tobin in their front office is taking a lot of

884
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 4: heat in Cincinnati for you know, the attrition of the roster.

885
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 4: I thought that when he said leadership that he meant

886
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 4: like organizational leadership, you know, like GM president level leadership.

887
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 4: I don't know what he's talking about with the roster,

888
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 4: Like I guess Chase spit on a guy so like

889
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: that's not great, but like, right, you know, in general, Kay,

890
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, Yeah, Teddy Kay is like the

891
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 4: vice president of the Players Association, So I think that

892
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: he's a I've got a pretty good head on his shoulders.

893
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: But I think that they're GM. They have a president

894
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: and then they have ownership, and the president she's like

895
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 4: under fire a lot too about the roster and just

896
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: like about the state of the team.

897
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just.

898
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 5: Hope that they're not just saying, well, we got Earl,

899
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 5: Chase and Higgins like nothing else matters, you know. I mean,

900
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 5: I think that's what that team looks like to me,

901
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 5: and as soon as you pull one or two of

902
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 5: those pieces out, it's pretty dreadful.

903
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 3: Jake and fort Rucker, Alabama. This is on the playoffs.

904
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: I was listening to yesterday's show just a bit ago,

905
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: and I was thinking on Paul's confidence in the Chiefs

906
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 3: making the playoffs. Originally I agreed, However, upon further review,

907
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: I'm not so sure. At five and five, the Chiefs

908
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: will still have to play the Colts, Cowboys, Charges, and

909
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: Broncos again. While I wouldn't be shocked if the Chiefs

910
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: won all four of those games. I think they absolutely

911
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: must win at least two, possibly three, and that's just

912
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 3: no guarantee this year. I think the Bills are a

913
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: near lock. The remaining teams that charges Jags, Ravens, and Chiefs.

914
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 3: I think that of those teams, the Jags getting knocked

915
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: out makes sense, But my guess is only one of

916
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: the Ravens or Chiefs will make it. And think the

917
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: Ravens are more likely.

918
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: So I think the Ravens. The Ravens might win the division.

919
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 4: So I think that could like send like a whole

920
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 4: kind of ripple effect into this as if the Ravens

921
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 4: come back and actually win the North and now the

922
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: Steelers become a wild card team.

923
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 2: And Mason Rudolph, Yeah, like that all kind.

924
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 4: Of gets cluttered, you know. With Kansas City. Yeah, I mean,

925
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 4: I think most of the metrics right now would say

926
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 4: that they're probably gonna miss the playoffs. But it's Patrick Mahomes,

927
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 4: Andy Reid so great.

928
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 2: It's just a great challenge.

929
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 5: I mean that the Colts are what they are this season,

930
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 5: They're really earned a lot of the respect of around

931
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 5: the league that you know that they deserve, and now

932
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 5: to have to go into Kansas City where you feel

933
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 5: like you've got a dea sprit Kansas City team playing

934
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 5: at home against the team that's kind of a dome team.

935
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: I just it's gonna be interesting to see what the

936
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: result is.

937
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 5: Is this an indie team that can travel and knock

938
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 5: off a team that, like everybody feels the same way.

939
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 5: They're like Jason boordees, like you got to kill him

940
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 5: till he's dead, and then you got to kill him again.

941
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 5: That's how it's got to be, is Daniel Jones and

942
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 5: you know that running game. Ready to go in there

943
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 5: to arrowhead and do it.

944
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: Jordan and Tampa writes in follow up question on yesterday's

945
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 3: discussion on worst playoff opponents. My opinion, the worst opponent

946
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: to face in the playoffs would be Buffalo. We've already

947
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: beat them in Buffalo. I have confidence that, given the

948
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: state of their team, will beat them at home as well.

949
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: But I've heard it said many times that's so hard

950
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: to beat a team three times in one year when

951
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: they are so familiar with each other. I would be

952
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: afraid that we beat them twice in the regular season,

953
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 3: but they learn from the losses and get us in

954
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: the playoffs.

955
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 4: So I agree with his premise. But if we assume

956
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 4: that the Patriots win the East and the Bills are

957
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 4: a wildcard, the Bills are going to be the five

958
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: seed most definitely. And so like we're talking about the

959
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: AFC Championship game, and like, if that's if that's what

960
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 4: it is like, you're going to play a great team

961
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: at that point, and it is what it is like,

962
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 4: you take your chances and see what happens. It'd be

963
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: very unlikely that they would draw the Bills in the

964
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: divisional or the wildcard round, just because the Bills are

965
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 4: probably going to be the top wildcard team.

966
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 5: I if they get to buy, the Patriots get to buy,

967
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 5: and they're one game away from the AFC Championship.

968
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: Like I don't know I've told you guys, but like

969
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: my dream is to go to an AFC championship game.

970
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 5: I have never been to one. Like that to me

971
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 5: is you've never been to one? No, no, no, not

972
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 5: even a Super Bowl either. I know it's crazy, I know,

973
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 5: but I just think that's the ultimate football game. It's

974
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 5: a home crowd, it's a real football game. Super Bowl

975
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 5: is like an exhibition. I mean, you guys know more

976
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 5: than me. You've been to Super Bowl, at least on TV,

977
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 5: it feels like.

978
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: The weekends and sports. The Championship. You get those two home.

979
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 5: Games and the home crowd is into it and probably

980
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 5: a little bit of a weather game depending on where is.

981
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 5: But I just to me, the chance to see this

982
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 5: team playing in an AFC Championship, that would be you know,

983
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 5: deuce on cloud not. I would like to me just

984
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 5: whatever happens happens, but I would be really happy.

985
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 4: I agree with the email in terms of it. It would

986
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: be hard to beat Buffalo again. Yeah, me too, but

987
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 4: I don't know when they would really see Buffalo like

988
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 4: the way that it goes. But the two thousand AFC

989
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: Championship Game twenty eight teen in Kansas City is the

990
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 4: best football game I've ever been to, and I don't

991
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 4: think it's going to be topped like Mahomes and Brady

992
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 4: in overtime of the AFC Championship Game. To go to

993
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl is also in that atmosphere or two

994
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: like that fan base is awesome game. I don't know

995
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 4: if that will ever be that post game my first

996
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 4: year on the Beat and came out and that was

997
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 4: my first year was covering that team.

998
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 5: So there's also that my closest is the the AFC

999
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 5: Divisional against San Diego in two.

1000
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 2: Thousand and six.

1001
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 5: But there's nothing quite like the experience of going into

1002
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 5: a hostile stadium in the playoffs a team that has

1003
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 5: Super Bowl aspirations and ending their season in their home.

1004
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 5: I mean that that feeling, and I mean the Patriots

1005
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 5: had it happened a couple of times here to them,

1006
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 5: but that was pretty cool.

1007
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: I mean the celebration after that San Diego game, all

1008
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: the Patriots fans all came down. Everybody was just so excited.

1009
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 5: I'm sure it was the same thing there at Sports City.

1010
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 4: No, because there weren't, like Kansas City was not letting

1011
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 4: any Patriots fans in the building. You know, you they

1012
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 4: have like this like sea of red, and like when

1013
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 4: you look out from the press box over the parking lot,

1014
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 4: it's like a college atmosphere where like it's just a

1015
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: whole parking lot's tailgaters and like that that was literally

1016
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 4: going That was rocky for Like, that was literally going

1017
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 4: into the most hostile environment that you could possibly go into.

1018
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 4: And you know, Brady winning that game was one of

1019
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 4: his best.

1020
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was, I mean, helmet off and it was

1021
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: bitter cold too. Yeah, helmet off, jumping in people's arms

1022
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: and the mccordy twins hugging each other, you know, in

1023
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: Devin telling Jason, this is why you came to do this,

1024
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: David Andrews way, goodbye to the crowd.

1025
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 2: Brady masterclass. Yeah, good'd down.

1026
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 3: I mean so many plays, talk about got to have

1027
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 3: it plays and then you know, thank you Kansas City

1028
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: for jumping off sides.

1029
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 5: That's probably the stress for a video. Like the greatest

1030
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 5: third downs of the Dynasty. Just third downs. I mean

1031
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 5: that Edelman probably have four or five of them.

1032
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 4: They just kept they kept on playing middle of the field,

1033
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 4: They kept on playing two high safeties, and Edelman just

1034
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: kept running crossers right into the middle of the field

1035
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 4: and they just didn't cover them. And then the one

1036
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 4: time that they did, they threw the backside slant to

1037
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 4: Gronk and they're like they just had all the answers,

1038
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 4: like third down. They just completely out fox the Chiefs

1039
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: in that game.

1040
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1041
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 5: I love hearing what Brady said about that game too,

1042
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 5: just saying I knew what they were going to do

1043
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 5: before they did it, like I studied them so much,

1044
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 5: Like I just I knew exactly what they were doing everything, yep.

1045
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: And they got spags and then they won three Super Bowls.

1046
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: Willem and philam, what's up? William's? All right?

1047
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: All right?

1048
00:44:59,280 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: Were you doing?

1049
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 9: All right? Just two questions? So I know about the

1050
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 9: robbery jerseys, which those those new ones which it looks

1051
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 9: they look so sick. Anyway, do you see the picture

1052
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 9: is getting some new like a new home jersey for

1053
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 9: next season, you know, something something different, I mean from

1054
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 9: the blue ones that they have already. And also what

1055
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 9: you having with the draft coming up? Basically, what do

1056
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 9: you think the pictures would do with the first round pick?

1057
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 9: You know what? You think they should charge it down

1058
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 9: and Ye'll have a good day, Okay.

1059
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 10: All right?

1060
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: Well two questions there. One is new uniform in the works,

1061
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 3: and what would they do with the pick that they'll have,

1062
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: probably hopefully low.

1063
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 4: In the thirty two? I think is where the super

1064
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 4: Bowl champ? There you go, ed Rusher?

1065
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that will be at the top

1066
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: of the list.

1067
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: You know, I think they I think best player available

1068
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 3: that's not a quarterback.

1069
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: They're gonna need some things to fill in, you know,

1070
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 4: depth wise and other spots. But I think the cool

1071
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 4: part about this draft, to Fred's point, is like you

1072
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 4: kind of already have the foundation, so now you're kind

1073
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 4: of just adding like on top of it. This is

1074
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 4: where we used to be, right, and so now you

1075
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 4: can really you know, the Lions had that draft where

1076
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 4: they go Gibbs Campbell, Brian branch Laporta, and after the

1077
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: draft everybody made fun of them because they picked non

1078
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 4: premium positions with all their picks, but they picked the

1079
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 4: best players available and it ended up all of them

1080
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 4: ended up being good. So I think there's an element

1081
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 4: to that that you can kind of just whatever falls

1082
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,479
Speaker 4: to you and you pick that guy.

1083
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: That's what I'm excited about next year. And not to

1084
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: get ahead of ourselves, but like this.

1085
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 5: Isn't the team yet, you know, and everybody's pretty much

1086
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 5: coming back. There are honeywise either Yeah, I mean there's

1087
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 5: you know, there are some holes to film and you

1088
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 5: got to figure out you know, it's Chason going to

1089
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 5: come come back, Tonga, you know, Jalen Hawkins starting safety.

1090
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 5: So I mean there could be some starting holes, but

1091
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 5: generally you're bringing back just about everybody in the core

1092
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 5: and you just can build from there and you don't

1093
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 5: have to be totally, you know, held to the needs.

1094
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 5: And when you're held to those needs, like you end

1095
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 5: up reaching on guys that maybe you shouldn't where it's

1096
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 5: like to your point, Fred, it's like, yeah, we kind

1097
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 5: of need this position, but we know that this guy

1098
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 5: is going to be a superstar.

1099
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: And it's not a top the list, but let's just

1100
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: take this.

1101
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just put out a edge rusher because it's

1102
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 4: a good it's a good class. There's gonna be like

1103
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 4: five or six of them that go early, and you know,

1104
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 4: people are really high on the.

1105
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: Class place and start.

1106
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: It looks like they'll have cash to spend too, so

1107
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't all have to come from the draft. If

1108
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: you know you can get an immediate impact guy on

1109
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 3: a rusher, do it that way.

1110
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that that's probably what will happen,

1111
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 4: is like you won't have the spending spree like they

1112
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 4: did this last offseason, but you might have like one splash,

1113
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: you know, whether it's a free agent or a trade

1114
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: or something like that where they go out and try

1115
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: to add again, like just that extra piece to put

1116
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 4: you over the top, whether it's you know, another receiver

1117
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 4: or it's an edge rusher or whatever. The case may be,

1118
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 4: but they're gonna need you know, pass rush, They're gonna

1119
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 4: need you know, offensive line still, you know, right tackle Morgan.

1120
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 4: This is not a spring chicken.

1121
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1122
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: How do they sort out the interior with Wilson and

1123
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 4: brad Bury? Bradbury, do you bring him back?

1124
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: You know?

1125
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 4: Do you kick Wilson to center? Then you need a

1126
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: left guard. What's on win?

1127
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: Who's future? Yep, So there's still.

1128
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: There's going to be a really really interesting off season.

1129
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: Tight end Seana Vancouver.

1130
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 3: I predict that Drake May will have his first NFL

1131
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: game with over three hundred yards passing. That's not based

1132
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 3: in my gut or a feeling. It's more this trend

1133
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: of thought. Drake may leaves the NFL in passing yards.

1134
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: The Bengals, how the worst defense in the history of

1135
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 3: the NFL. When push comes to shove, it's a big

1136
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 3: game for the Patriots.

1137
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: Offense, it should line up that way.

1138
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 3: They could also have two hundred yards rushing.

1139
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 5: That to me would be what would prevent Drake from

1140
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 5: doing it is that they get the lead and then

1141
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 5: it's reminder Stevenson, Trevion Henderson time to just do what

1142
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 5: they've kind of done, you know, bleed the clock out

1143
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 5: and you know, get out of Dodge with a win,

1144
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 5: you get into December November.

1145
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: I think those things are you know, you gotta protect

1146
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: yourselves a little bit.

1147
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's there's a piece of me that

1148
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 4: things the Patriots could you know, really blow doors in

1149
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: Cincinnati because of the state of the Bengals, Like Chase

1150
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 4: is suspended, He's beIN on a guy that's not great,

1151
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 4: like just in general for the whole vibe, right, Joe

1152
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 4: Burrow's not playing, Trey Hendrickson's not playing. But at the

1153
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 4: same time, like it's been a little bit of a

1154
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 4: grind here for the Patriots and they still don't know

1155
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 4: there's still two weeks away from their bye. I do

1156
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 4: think that there's an element of, you know, are they

1157
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 4: fully operational right now to really like blow a team out?

1158
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 4: You know, it might be one of those like ho hum.

1159
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: I think it's a great observation, Evan.

1160
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 5: It's what like kind of concerns me small seat concern

1161
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 5: of just you know, managing getting to the buy and

1162
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 5: then and look, we're all kind of scarred from how

1163
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 5: things went downhill after the bye going back. I mean

1164
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 5: a significant amount of years. But what is the team

1165
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 5: like post by with Rabel, What does that look like?

1166
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 5: Do they come out and really look like they're starting

1167
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 5: to peek because I don't. I don't really think this

1168
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 5: team is is peak yet. I don't think we've seen

1169
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 5: their best with Drake and Ramandre and Keisham Bouti and

1170
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 5: Austin Hooper and all those different pieces.

1171
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: So I still see where they can get to.

1172
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 5: But I just I really wonder how they're going to

1173
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 5: manage these next few weeks with another primetime night game,

1174
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 5: a bye week, and then some really tough matchups right

1175
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 5: out of the buy.

1176
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing, is like you you have Buffalo

1177
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 2: Baltimore back to back right out of the by, be

1178
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: ready to go?

1179
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 4: So these games, like I'm not saying you don't put

1180
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 4: it all in, you know, to these games, but are

1181
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: you really going, you know, is this more like let's

1182
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 4: just take care of business and get the heck out

1183
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 4: of Cincinnati, or is this like let's beat up on

1184
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 4: the Bangles, you know.

1185
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: Mark and fall River. He says yesterday, I felt there

1186
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 3: was a certain amount of disrespect being handed to Stefan

1187
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 3: Diggs when the discussion came up about Drake ma and

1188
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 3: his performance. You harped on how little talent he has

1189
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: around him. I don't know about that, but there wasn't

1190
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: even a cursory mention of Diggs and the impact he's had.

1191
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's a top five wide receiver, which

1192
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: is specifically what you mentioned, but he has a huge

1193
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 3: impact on this team and still playing at a high level.

1194
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure he gets mentioned because

1195
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 3: in my opinion, he's been a main part of the

1196
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: offensive turnaround. Good point.

1197
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: No, that's a good point.

1198
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 5: And I absolutely I got asked that last time on

1199
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 5: the radio, who's your offensive MVP after Drake May and

1200
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 5: I said Stefan Diggs and he mentioned he's.

1201
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 3: Been solid all year.

1202
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean come back player of the yards already.

1203
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 4: I don't think think he's around seven hundred, yes, but

1204
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 4: he's on pace for about over one thousand, you know,

1205
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 4: ninety catches thousand yards. You know, really strong candidate for

1206
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 4: comeback Player of the Year in the league, you know,

1207
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 4: coming back from the ACL and having this year, and

1208
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 4: there's a real chance to the Patriots could have all,

1209
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 4: you know, coach of the Year, Assistant coach of the

1210
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 4: year m VP Comeback Player of the Year, like they

1211
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 4: could have some some awards. You know, in this offseason.

1212
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 5: You don't get to be an MVP candidate if your

1213
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 5: team around you really sucks. I mean, the Patriots might

1214
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 5: not have Jamar Chase, but still Stefan diak is a

1215
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 5: very good player, and I mean the cupboard is not

1216
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 5: bear right now.

1217
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: There are solid players.

1218
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 5: I think the point though, generally is just May is

1219
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 5: elevating everybody. But they wouldn't be where they are right

1220
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 5: now without Stefan Digs. It's a good shout.

1221
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: Out Chris with a T I A N rights in

1222
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 3: will this final stretch of games tell you more about

1223
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: this team than the first eleven games. While the three

1224
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 3: game road wins streak and winning in Miami, Tampa and

1225
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: Buffalo are the marquee wins, I think wins against the

1226
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: Ravens potentially sweeping the Bills will tell us a lot

1227
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: about how far they'll go in January.

1228
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely that is a good point.

1229
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: But I'm kind of not saying that the rest of

1230
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: the season. Regular season doesn't matter. But until we get

1231
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 4: to the playoffs, like, you're not really going to find

1232
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 4: out what this team is really made of. And I

1233
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 4: just go back to twenty one, where they had a

1234
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 4: good regular season and it looked like the arrow was

1235
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 4: pointing up and then they got absolutely destroyed in Buffalo.

1236
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 4: And I remember Belichick coming on the next day and

1237
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 4: being like, is that who we are or do we

1238
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 4: just have a bad night?

1239
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: Well, and I doubt that that's who they were.

1240
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: You know, I'll say this about twenty one. Some of

1241
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: us who are paying attention, we saw it coming the

1242
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 3: second half of the season.

1243
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: Was from the Indian game.

1244
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 4: Oh everybody, Yeah, I mean everybody saw that, But like

1245
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 4: you still came out of that season.

1246
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: Until the Buffalo game.

1247
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 4: I think you could have still said, well, yeah, if

1248
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 4: you keep building on this, then like you're going someplace here.

1249
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 4: And they got their doors blowing off in Buffalo, and

1250
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 4: now I think was a real like kind of friction

1251
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 4: point of like, okay, maybe they the second half of

1252
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: the year really was what they were and then Buffalo

1253
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: was really what they were. And I think that that

1254
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: that's when that kind of gets decided. Like if they

1255
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 4: go this Patriots team stumbles a little bit down the

1256
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 4: stretch but then wins a playoff game, then you're not

1257
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 4: thinking about twenty You know, but I.

1258
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 3: Think this stretch is important. It is important. No, I

1259
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 3: think that you're not going to have Milton Williams. It's

1260
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 3: been a grind. You haven't had a buy, so it's tough.

1261
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 3: Even though you had this little mini buy. You're a

1262
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: little banged up right now. So it's going to tell

1263
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: you a lot about this team.

1264
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 5: I kind of think about the comparison between the two

1265
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 5: thousand and nine team and how they went out.

1266
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 2: I mean, they got.

1267
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 5: Beat pretty thoroughly here by Joe Flacco and the Ravens.

1268
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 5: I mean, I think they were in like you know

1269
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 5: now it's in the sound Battle twenty one points down,

1270
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 5: like how could they come.

1271
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: Back from that?

1272
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 5: But you know that that team was, you know, been reconstituted.

1273
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 5: It had a rookie quarterback, but they couldn't do anything.

1274
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 2: And so you know, it's like the oh. Nine team

1275
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 2: felt like it needed just a couple of tweaks.

1276
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 5: Maybe that's understating it a little bit, but you know,

1277
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 5: you got Gronka mccordy the next year and you really

1278
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 5: started to rebuild. But to me, after that Oh one game,

1279
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 5: it was like I don't know where to go, Like

1280
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 5: they just spent everything on free agency.

1281
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: I think Max is going to be kind of limited,

1282
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: and you know, you were.

1283
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 5: Kind of crossing your fingers and then the offensive coordinator

1284
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 5: stuff happened.

1285
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think it's hard with this this team

1286
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: right now because they already had nine wins, and let's

1287
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 4: face it, they have four very very winnable games. So like,

1288
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 4: even if they lose to Buffalo and Baltimore, they're still

1289
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: going to be twelve or thirteen wins because they have

1290
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 4: this Bengals game, they have the Giants, they have the Dolphins,

1291
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: and they.

1292
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: Have the Jets. That's at least three.

1293
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, the Dolphins are a little frisky,

1294
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 4: we'll see, but like that, that's Dolphins hair late in

1295
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 4: the season, right, And so like you could lose to

1296
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 4: Buffalo and Baltimore and you're still going to win the division.

1297
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 4: You're still going to have a high seed. In that way,

1298
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 4: you could still go four and two, right, and you

1299
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: can still be thirteen win team, right.

1300
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 3: But I'd rather go four and two and have one

1301
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: of the losses not be Buffalo or Ravens. I'd rather

1302
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: lose to the Jets in Miami than lose to those guys.

1303
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 4: Well, I guess it depends on, you know, how meaningful

1304
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 4: the those Jets and Dolphins games are.

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Speaker 3: I understand, I understand, But in terms of like knowing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fair. It's a good question for Paul.

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Speaker 5: I feel like, of which of those four teams that

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Speaker 4: I mean said Miami, Well, they're just playing a little

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Speaker 4: And but Miami coming up here in late December, early

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Speaker 5: And I mean, and again that goes back to like,

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Speaker 2: You know, what does that look like?

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Speaker 2: You'd be disappointed.

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Speaker 3: As Brady said, you know, we didn't come this far

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Speaker 1: And now great moments in history.

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Speaker 3: I know everybody around here, says the pig.

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Speaker 18: You know, the Celtics love to make it hard on themselves,

1542
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 18: and you know they're doing it again, and they're blowing

1543
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 18: opportunity with like nothing to do with the other team,

1544
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 18: like forcing eighteen turnovers.

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01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 3: It's the Celtics. That's what I was trying to tell

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01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 3: you all these years with the Patriots when you would

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01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 3: say the other team's take, and I say, well, maybe

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01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 3: the Patriots had something to do with it, but now

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01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 3: because not, now you have that take. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: and I'm glad you've come around.

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Speaker 18: Wait a minute, and I agree with your take on

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01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 18: the Patriots, and I always have in games you and

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01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 18: Andy and playoff sucks the Patriots.

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01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 3: You know you're making two different arguments.

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01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 18: The league does what happens at The league does suck

1556
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 18: by and large and teams give games away. But you

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01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 18: can't tell me they won six Super Bowls because the

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01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 18: other team sucked.

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 3: No, that's stupid. That's what you guys used to say.

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Speaker 18: Never once that I asked a little super Bowl the

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01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 18: other team sucked.

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Speaker 3: I would I would give credit to the other team

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01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 3: and the Patriots having beaten that team. You would take

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01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 3: away from the Patriots by diminishing the other team.

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Speaker 18: I would take away again, it again and again when

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01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 18: when they get dominated by like the Cleveland Browns and

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Speaker 18: lose because Cleveland gives the ball away seventeen times.

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Speaker 3: Like, that's different, right, because my Patriots had nothing to

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Speaker 3: do with.

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Speaker 18: But you don't beat the like the Steelers and the

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01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 18: Colts and the Rams all because the other seem sucks.

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Speaker 3: Sorry theyah, the team doesn't suck. No, but they say,

1573
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 3: teams come to me. That's what they just pooped themselves.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know what to do that Celtics.

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01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 18: It's all about the Celtics sucking, not the Golden State

1576
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 18: doing anything.

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Speaker 3: That I agree with. And I also agree with the

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Speaker 3: other way too.

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Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 3: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered. It's good to

1581
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 3: be having those arguments again. Why are the Patriots winning?

1582
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 3: Is it because they're good or the other team's stink?

1583
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 3: And uh, you know that gets to the whole easy

1584
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: schedule thing and I was just thinking to myself, if

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Speaker 3: you're a bad team, there is no such thing as

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01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 3: an easy schedule. If you have an easy schedule, it's

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01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 3: because you're good.

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01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 2: You're beating the other team right right.

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Speaker 3: And you know, like if the Patriots were they had it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, if the Patriots were the where they

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01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 3: were last year, they'd beat four a four to win

1592
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: team regardless of the schedule. But now they're good, so

1593
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 3: they're turning this easy schedule into nine and two. Yeah,

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01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 3: you don't do that unless you're a good team.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we knew what the schedule was coming into

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01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,560
Speaker 5: the season, and we knew, you know, what kind of

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 5: team this was. I mean, the conversations we had and

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 5: you know, Paul leading the charge with they're probably gonna

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01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 5: go fifty to fifty. You know, that's where this team

1600
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 5: is out there rebuilding. They're not going to win all

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01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 5: of these games against the bad teams. But they have

1602
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 5: won all the bad teams, and now all of the

1603
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 5: goalposts move and you're like, well, they haven't beaten anybody,

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01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, and again they play take the

1605
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 5: defenses and every NFL team is good, like every you know,

1606
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 5: every you go around It's like I said yesterday, you

1607
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 5: go around the league, all these teams that the Patriots

1608
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 5: have beaten have beaten other teams. It's not like every

1609
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 5: team they play haven't won a single game. You know,

1610
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 5: some are better than others. But again, like they're in

1611
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 5: relegation right now, like you got to get out of

1612
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 5: the fourth place schedule, like I get it. None of

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01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 5: us like watching like, oh great, we gotta go play

1614
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 5: the Bengals this week, Like we much rather have a

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Speaker 5: game with some juice to it.

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Speaker 2: But the schedule, you don't make it.

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01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 3: It's already I'll be perfectly happy beating up.

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01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 5: Those are special for you, Fred, you know at that scenario,

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01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 5: all right, two and oh again then in the last

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01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 5: two years, you know, it's pretty good.

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01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. Eight five five Pats five hundred is the Hotline

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Speaker 3: podcast at Patriots dot Com. Momentarily, we'll be turning it

1623
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Speaker 3: over to Mike Rabel bringing you his press conference as

1624
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 3: we do every Wednesday. So as soon as that happens,

1625
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 3: we'll go to him. But in the meantime, let's go

1626
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 3: to Randall in Texas. What's up Randall? Randall, Randall and Texas. Well,

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Speaker 3: I guess I'm gonna mess with Texas. Let's go to

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Speaker 3: Randy in Providence. Hey Randy, Hey.

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Speaker 19: How's it going? Guys? Listen, I'm calling in to Usk.

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01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 19: Do you guys think that there the Patriots are getting

1631
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 19: enough respect with a seven and a half points.

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01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna have to put you on hold and

1633
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 3: we're gonna go to Mike Vrabel.

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Speaker 6: How are you j suspended? What you've seen?

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01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 11: Some teeth Higgins and the rest of me.

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01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 20: Again, talent, plenty of talent, it's just the opportunities probably

1637
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 20: haven't been there. But when they've been given the opportunity

1638
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 20: and they've gone to them, you know, whether that's Yoshi Vas,

1639
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 20: that's Tinsley down the field obviously t deep threat, you know,

1640
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 20: took a slant to the house against Pittsburgh, tight window,

1641
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 20: you know, split the safeties, you know. So I don't

1642
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 20: think that they lacking talent. I think it's just been opportunity.

1643
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 20: So again we'll have to do a you know, a

1644
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 20: great job, you know, trying to defend them, whether that

1645
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 20: be Brown or Higgins or anybody else.

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01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 6: It's just a big challenge offensively.

1647
01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 10: Like a question from caring for Uh cool, I'm good, Thanks,

1648
01:11:55,640 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 10: Forssing since you became a head coach, how if it all,

1649
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 10: have you changed how you manage your individual relationships with

1650
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 10: players over the years.

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01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 20: I mean, again, I'm my jobs have a you know,

1652
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 20: a relationship or a connection with with everybody here, players

1653
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 20: and staff included. Some of those relationships are stronger than others.

1654
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 20: That's kind of the nature of this. But you know,

1655
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 20: I think for me, it's just been having something in

1656
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 20: each room or part of the game plan in each

1657
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 20: phase that will at least allow me to have a

1658
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 20: conversation about the game plan, about their job or technique,

1659
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 20: which is the best way, you know, to be able

1660
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 20: to have that connection through the week, you know, And

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Speaker 20: then again just try to be as genuine as I

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01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 20: possibly can.

1663
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 3: You you needed, wanted gotten when you were player, and something.

1664
01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 6: You felt like it was important to you.

1665
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 20: I don't know if it was that needed. I mean,

1666
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 20: it was just kind of different. I think it was

1667
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 20: just different. And I haven't coached anybody any differently from

1668
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 20: the from the three years that I spent at Ohio

1669
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 20: State going to Houston. They were maybe a year or

1670
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 20: two older, and back then they made more money. Now

1671
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 20: they're just a year or two older, and some of

1672
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 20: them make about the same amount of money, So I

1673
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 20: appreciate where they all come from. I appreciate their backgrounds.

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01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 20: You can see the type of people they are by

1675
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 20: when you meet their families. I think that's something that

1676
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 20: you know, really shows and the pride that they have.

1677
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 20: And you know how you know, we we do this

1678
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 20: to provide for our family, so you know, outside of winning, well,

1679
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 20: that's what's let's be honest, like, that's that's why we

1680
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 20: do this. So I enjoy meeting their families, and I

1681
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 20: enjoy meeting the people that they care about. And we

1682
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 20: always said things that are important of them should be

1683
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 20: important to us.

1684
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 10: As a player, you were known sort of as an enforcer,

1685
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 10: and I know accountability is super important to you now.

1686
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: So as a coach, you.

1687
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Speaker 5: Know, how have you evolved in creating accountability?

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Speaker 20: And I think my job, I've said this is to

1689
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 20: try to protect the team and stay consistent and try

1690
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 20: to hold the best players the most accountable. That way,

1691
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 20: it sets a clear message to everybody, you know, throughout

1692
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 20: not you know, if the quarterback makes a mistake, of

1693
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 20: Drake makes a mistake, doesn't really do me any good

1694
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 20: to sit there and coach up Tommy you de veto

1695
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 20: just go right to the source. And I think the

1696
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 20: players appreciate the consistency, like.

1697
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 2: The stability of the offensive line in their performance.

1698
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 6: This season seems like it's like to a while team's success.

1699
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 20: Can you talk about what that group and the coaching

1700
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 20: staff and Dog maroone has.

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Speaker 3: Meant to his success?

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Speaker 6: Well, Dog, I mean that's a good group in there,

1703
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Doug Doug's.

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Speaker 20: In charge, but but Jason otanling Hass and you know

1705
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 20: Kug's I think we're lucky. I think those guys really

1706
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 20: do a good job. Like I said when I talked

1707
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 20: about the staff, they can all take a group and

1708
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 20: coach them and pre practice individual.

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01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 6: Uh so you see a lot of that is.

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01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 20: You know, split up, and guys are getting work and

1711
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 20: reps and so there's a lot of confidence there.

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01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 6: I think the players are building some confidence.

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01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 20: I think that, you know, the more that we get

1714
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:38,799
Speaker 20: into this thing and they understand kind of the design

1715
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,759
Speaker 20: of the play and kind of how Drake's gonna operate,

1716
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 20: whether that's you know, trying to climb the pocket or

1717
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 20: you know, the extension and everything else, I think it all,

1718
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 20: you know, goes hand in hand I think they communicate well,

1719
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 20: and you know, the more that we've been able to

1720
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 20: be out there as a unit has led to you know,

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Speaker 20: some good results.

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Speaker 4: And possibly during the return you've had Trayyon kind of be.

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Speaker 21: That named back in the last few games.

1724
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: Do you have a is there a plan kind of

1725
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 3: to have a better balance between.

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Speaker 22: The two of them when they're both ready to play

1727
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 22: or when Rmandre is helping.

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Speaker 20: I think we'll probably have to have that conversation, you know,

1729
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 20: when it's you know certain that we're going to have

1730
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 20: Romandre's going to work through practice today and you know,

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Speaker 20: we'll see where things go. So Travion's helped us, or

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Speaker 20: Andre has helped us, Trell's helped us, you know, disappointed

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Speaker 20: at dearness kind of, you know, have a couple more carries,

1734
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 20: We gained some good yards on a whatever they thought

1735
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 20: was a holding penalty and go from there. So we'll

1736
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 20: try to have them all help us. But it's been

1737
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 20: good to see Travion continue to to run hard and

1738
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 20: take care the football and everything else.

1739
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 10: Like what's been your impression of Joe Flacco and just

1740
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 10: the way that bangled offense?

1741
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 20: Good playing, uh, efficient on time, a lot of again,

1742
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 20: you're not gonna trick him. You're not gonna trick him.

1743
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 20: You're gonna have to cover him, beat him.

1744
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 6: You know, rush on.

1745
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 20: The ball comes out quick, you know, doesn't seem to

1746
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 20: get rattled very easily. It's not something that's gonna happen.

1747
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 20: You know, arm strength and accuracy has been great. You know,

1748
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 20: he kind of knows what he wants to do and

1749
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 20: where he wants to go with the ball.

1750
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 6: It's a lot of command.

1751
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 10: Like he's also someone you saw as a player. I

1752
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 10: don't know, I know all those memories are great, but

1753
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 10: what do you remember about a young Joe Blacket on

1754
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 10: the other sideline?

1755
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 20: I mean about the same, I mean, big, talented, strong,

1756
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 20: probably ran a little bit more.

1757
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 6: So.

1758
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 20: Just the longevity, A lot of respect for him as

1759
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 20: a as a person and as a player.

1760
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 10: Will give a chance to receive them how to practice theoretically.

1761
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 10: But I talked about remondering his situation, Keishawan and Christian

1762
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 10: as well.

1763
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: As any pigs.

1764
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 20: Yeah, they'll all work today and we'll see, you know,

1765
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 20: how they respond after today and kind of keep moving

1766
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 20: from there. But no real update. They haven't done anything

1767
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 20: that you know, we've pushed through other than that. So

1768
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 20: hopefully they're out there and they will be and ready

1769
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 20: to go, and then we'll see where they where they go.

1770
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 4: Decision to CG to the off the cross room less

1771
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 4: similar to the situation you kind of talked about earlier

1772
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 4: this week.

1773
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 21: Bread and where it's someone you put time in with

1774
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 21: and want.

1775
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 3: To continue working with.

1776
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 20: Yeah, there's a lot of things that go involved with that,

1777
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 20: and you know, certainly those two players were ones that

1778
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,839
Speaker 20: kept showing up as the you know, show team players

1779
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 20: or whether it's on special teams or offense or defense,

1780
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 20: and so.

1781
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 6: There's you know, it's just.

1782
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,679
Speaker 20: Kind of what happens when you get to this part

1783
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 20: in the season, and you know, we'll see if those

1784
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 20: guys can can help us. And we ask everybody to

1785
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 20: prepare as a starter when they come in here. And

1786
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 20: I don't think anything should change or will change for

1787
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 20: those guys like you.

1788
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 3: Haven't been that the quarterback of the treat concept impacted

1789
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 3: back weeks all much It is from.

1790
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 6: You know, having yours taught to you, running to play, simulating,

1791
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 6: doing to practice versus just.

1792
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 3: The players out there with high awareness.

1793
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 6: I disciplined you to the game. Well, we're not gonna

1794
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 6: be able to show them everything. We have a lot of.

1795
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 20: Again, admiration, respect, gratitude for the players that give us

1796
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 20: those looks throughout the week. I think they take great

1797
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 20: pride in that we ask them to try to you know,

1798
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 20: they're being evaluated and they're you know, we're trying to

1799
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 20: put it in the best as we can in our

1800
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 20: language and letting them play football and letting them compete

1801
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 20: and you know, try to stay up and take care

1802
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 20: of each other. We don't want anything that's out of control.

1803
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 20: But I think improvement has been made by players on

1804
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 20: those units. They give us a fantastic look and all

1805
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,640
Speaker 20: you know, first second, third down, We get to the

1806
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 20: red zone late in the week, so again that starts there.

1807
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 20: And then we're not going to be able to show

1808
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 20: them every single play that they're going to see in

1809
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 20: the game. That's that's impossible. Where nobody's that good. There's

1810
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 20: things that will show them you know, that they'll be

1811
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 20: able to recall. But then it comes down today eleven

1812
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 20: guys out there, if there's an unscouted look or there's

1813
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 20: a scout you know, I mean, there's a play that

1814
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 20: you know comes up that they haven't seen or they

1815
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 20: haven't run this year that you know, you kind of

1816
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 20: use your tools and use you know, kind of your

1817
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 20: rules for the play and what your responsibility is to

1818
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 20: to go and defend it.

1819
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 4: Drake said on the radio the other day that one

1820
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 4: of the concepts he's been focused on here is remaining

1821
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:38,919
Speaker 4: a passer as long as possible.

1822
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 23: Everyone needs to taking off.

1823
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 14: How much progress have you seen with that particular skill

1824
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 14: or development for him.

1825
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean I think that that's something that was

1826
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 20: you know, talked about in the off season that we

1827
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 20: wanted to try to allow him to do and let

1828
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 20: him work on it. And you know, example on the

1829
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 20: sidelines there with Digs the other night, is maintaining a

1830
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 20: passer as long as he can still threaten the edge

1831
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 20: and then if people come out of coverage, being able

1832
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 20: to you know, make good decisions and great decisions with

1833
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 20: the football and it leads to you know, fifteen extra yards.

1834
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 20: He wasn't gonna run for fifteen yards. So again, those

1835
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 20: are things that really can put stress on the defense

1836
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 20: when you do them positively and you're not making bad decisions.

1837
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 2: He's the treats been so accurate this year.

1838
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 10: What kind of work have you seen him put in

1839
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 10: to refine or improve that part of playing the position.

1840
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,759
Speaker 2: Of how much of that just might be an.

1841
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 20: Eight I think probably a little bit of both. I

1842
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 20: think that Josh and Ashton and have tried to work

1843
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 20: hard on that. I also think Drake is talented. And

1844
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 20: again it's like a pitcher, And I mean, I don't

1845
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 20: know if there was a pitching coach that was really

1846
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 20: taught Greg Maddox how to paint the plate and put

1847
01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 20: the ball wherever he wanted to.

1848
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 6: So I think there's some some natural skill there.

1849
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 20: But then I think that they work on those things,

1850
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 20: and they work on platform and throwing off of different

1851
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 20: places and still remaining accurate and climbing the pocket and

1852
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 20: working with a base and all those things, and then

1853
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 20: you know there's other times where it's just natural athletic

1854
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 20: ability and hand eye coordination and putting the ball in

1855
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 20: good spots.

1856
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 3: Thank you, are you running all right? That was Mike

1857
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 3: Vrabel and Paul would have been proud, Big Baseball reference

1858
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 3: Greg Maddox painting the outside of the plate.

1859
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 2: We go, yeah, it's good stuff.

1860
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 3: You proud of them. And we pulled that one out

1861
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 3: of so anything notable, you know.

1862
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 5: At the end, I liked just I got to ask

1863
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 5: this question last night. It really made me think, and

1864
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 5: maybe I'm curious what you think, Fred was. You know,

1865
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,879
Speaker 5: when did you realize this year that Drake was taking

1866
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 5: like a big leap, you know? And I said, well,

1867
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 5: the first thing for me was in the spring, he

1868
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 5: just looked comfortable and that was you know, but it's

1869
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 5: Ota is mini camp.

1870
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,560
Speaker 2: There's nothing really going on competitively.

1871
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 5: And I said, I didn't even know in the training camp,

1872
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 5: like you know, we watched all those training camp practices.

1873
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 5: I was in the you know, the joint practice up

1874
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 5: in Minnesota, and it really to me felt like like

1875
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 5: the win streak when it started, he just started to

1876
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 5: string these games together. And it wasn't anything we saw

1877
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 5: this summer that made me say, oh, yeah, there here

1878
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 5: it is.

1879
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: This is what it was like.

1880
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 5: He has flashes throughout training camp, but never like this,

1881
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 5: you know.

1882
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 3: And you know, he didn't have a lot of play

1883
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 3: in preseason, like you said, it wasn't until the winning

1884
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 3: streak started that you said, whoa, he's This isn't just

1885
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 3: one game, but I mean he's doing it again and

1886
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 3: again and again. This is who he is. You know.

1887
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 3: Raiders game, first game, you didn't see it.

1888
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 2: Then No, No, a little bit in Miami.

1889
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 5: I mean Buffalo obviously that was a huge win, and

1890
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 5: you know that that throw that's still making the rounds

1891
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 5: to Stefan Diggs.

1892
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 2: But no, it really was a regular season thing to me,

1893
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 2: which is just.

1894
01:23:56,479 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 3: Absolutely you know it was anyone, that's all I saw it.

1895
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 3: I saw it in mini camp, but no, there's nothing

1896
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 3: that would have told you this.

1897
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 5: No, it still felt like you were gonna, you know,

1898
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 5: be feeling it out a little bit. I mean, it's

1899
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 5: it's hard to make comparisons because I think even you know,

1900
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams a little bit, you're seeing that too, like

1901
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 5: he's had some great plays, but you're still seeing a

1902
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 5: second year quarterback figure it out. And there's you know,

1903
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 5: some episom flows to it. But I just I continue

1904
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 5: to be amazed by you know, you watch guys all summer,

1905
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 5: you watch training camp, you have an impression of what

1906
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 5: kind of team is this, and then you get into

1907
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 5: the regular season and you know, just blows your mind

1908
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 5: that this guy all of a sudden is playing at

1909
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 5: this crazy level.

1910
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,799
Speaker 3: And believe it or not, Like I think this offense

1911
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 3: has a lot of room for improvement because forget about

1912
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 3: the running game. That's that's its own thing. But it's

1913
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 3: in terms of Drake in the passing game. A lot

1914
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 3: of his best plays are off platform. A lot of

1915
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 3: his best plays are when he's had to extend or

1916
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 3: move around in the pocket because the first option wasn't there.

1917
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 3: I think, you know, obviously, we all want to get

1918
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 3: to that point where that first option is there, like

1919
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 3: you know, the play is run as it was drawn up.

1920
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 3: And when you get to that point and the other

1921
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 3: plays are are less frequent, that's when you're going to

1922
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 3: see this offense really start to be a well oiled machine.

1923
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 3: We're not there yet, belieh or not. Now.

1924
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 2: That's and that goes to the question I think.

1925
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 5: I think Megan Odolini asked about, you know, just just

1926
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 5: Drake's ability to stay a passer, and I think that's

1927
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,560
Speaker 5: where for me, some of the ebbs.

1928
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 2: And flows of his season have been.

1929
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 5: You've seen at times and contain pockets that you will

1930
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 5: see him get a little rushed and maybe quicker to

1931
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 5: get out of the pocket. But I thought last week

1932
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 5: the protection was better. He got comfortable in the pocket.

1933
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 5: You didn't see him trying to run. He was staying

1934
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 5: in there even when there was some pressure.

1935
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: And still delivering throws.

1936
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 5: So I totally agree with your point if he can

1937
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 5: continue to stay at that point, and granted it's probably

1938
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 5: depending a lot on the protection, but they've been better too,

1939
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 5: So yeah.

1940
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 3: It's Randy's been on hold. I hope he's still there.

1941
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:59,799
Speaker 3: What's up, Randy? Hey, Hey, thanks for holding on listening

1942
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 3: to Rabel.

1943
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 19: I don't know if I'm gonna be bumped for anybody,

1944
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 19: I might as well be the car, right, Yeah, So yeah,

1945
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 19: I just I had wanted to call it that. Ask

1946
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 19: you guys if you feel like the Pats are getting

1947
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 19: enough respect with the spread this week.

1948
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 2: At your department?

1949
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 19: Seven point five?

1950
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 3: So what they're they're favored by seven and a half.

1951
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 19: Yeah, and this is against a team that's losing by

1952
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 19: ten and a half on average.

1953
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 3: Well you get three, so that's kind of it is

1954
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 3: ten and a half sort of.

1955
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: I wish Paul is here, No, I hear it just seven,

1956
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: So seven and a half.

1957
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 3: This is eight.

1958
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 5: Now I don't we'll go by DraftKings. But yeah, I

1959
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 5: mean that, and.

1960
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 19: I mean, now put some numbers to it. This is

1961
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 19: a historically bad defense, right, the nine straight games they've

1962
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 19: given up at at least twenty seven points, and their

1963
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 19: defensive DVOA if you're into that sort of thing, is

1964
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 19: negative twenty nine, which is thirty second in the league.

1965
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 19: But it's also the worst since the inception of the

1966
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 19: DVOA in nineteen seventy eight. Yeah, so's the worst defense

1967
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 19: by that measurement in almost fifty years.

1968
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean maybe, I mean, I don't know a

1969
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 5: lot about gambling, but I think part of it is

1970
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 5: your team still getting a feel for what this Patriots

1971
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 5: team is, and do they going against the terrible defense

1972
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 5: blow doors on them, because I mean I think, I mean,

1973
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 5: the Jets were the Jets last week, but like I said,

1974
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 5: they've had some some good defenses that it almost scares

1975
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 5: me a little bit, like going into a gamer and like,

1976
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 5: all right, they better just blow the you know, hanging

1977
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:31,839
Speaker 5: thirty forty points on this team.

1978
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 3: So, Randy, when's the last time you checked the spread?

1979
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 3: Was that just today?

1980
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1981
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 19: This morning?

1982
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 3: It was okay? Yeah, because I wonder if Jamar Chase,

1983
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 3: you know, that final ruling changed anything last night, but

1984
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 3: you said it's gone up to eight.

1985
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was according to eight and a half Patriots

1986
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 2: now it's eight and a half.

1987
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 3: It's moving, so it's moving up a little. Randy, you

1988
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 3: know that some of that could be trying to get

1989
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 3: some Cincinnati money in. But I you know, I'm eight

1990
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 3: and a half. That's a pretty big spread in today's NFL.

1991
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 3: But I hear what you're saying. You know, the Patriots

1992
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 3: should be able to put up points, but aside from

1993
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 3: last week, Cincinnati's been able to put up points too, right,

1994
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: So it's not like they true and they're at home.

1995
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 3: So I think seven and a half eight points is

1996
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,160
Speaker 3: probably right. It's probably right.

1997
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 19: And so by the way, tagging on to what you

1998
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 19: guys were saying about people knowing with May, didn't you

1999
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 19: feel like it was kind of almost the opposite like

2000
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 19: early in training camp, but you remember the four interception

2001
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 19: practice that started things off, and it just kind of

2002
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 19: felt like people were almost waiting for that again as

2003
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 19: opposed to expecting some big leaps Like I don't feel

2004
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 19: I feel like you guys are one hundred percent right,

2005
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 19: like nobody saw this sort of leap coming.

2006
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 3: Nope, thanks for Andy.

2007
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 5: Now I gotta get sell my notes on that four

2008
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 5: interception of practice and remember that one exactly.

2009
01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 2: But no, but I get the point.

2010
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:57,600
Speaker 5: I mean, it was you know, and even I mean

2011
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 5: i'd point more towards Minnesota, where you know, there were

2012
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:02,719
Speaker 5: some big plays down the field.

2013
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 2: I mean mac Hollins, you know, had a big play

2014
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: down the field, and.

2015
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 5: So you did see some of that, but you just

2016
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 5: don't know how it's in the trans and people.

2017
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure there's people out there saying I

2018
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 3: knew he was gonna make this big leap. Okay, maybe

2019
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 3: you did, but you didn't know that based off empirical evidence.

2020
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 3: You were you had faith, you had hope it was

2021
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 3: a big wish. Because the objective talk coming out of

2022
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 3: last year into this year is who is Drake May

2023
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 3: Is he this turnover guy? Is he a guy who's

2024
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 3: going to turn it over? Or is he this amazing

2025
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 3: athlete who's who's doing what we see him do? Now,

2026
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 3: no one knew for sure either way. There was just

2027
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 3: no evidence to show you either way. Now we're getting

2028
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,679
Speaker 3: a string of games that game in and game out,

2029
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,680
Speaker 3: he's doing the same thing, and so we can confidently say, yeah,

2030
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:56,800
Speaker 3: this guy, this is the guy.

2031
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah looking back at you know, I right, little just

2032
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 5: shot down some notes after.

2033
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 2: A tuning camp practice, and I mean.

2034
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 5: Just you know, kind of backs up what we're saying, like,

2035
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 5: you know, second practice.

2036
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: Another pretty efficient day for Drake.

2037
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 5: May uh you know, Drake a little shaky accuracy early on,

2038
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 5: but still makes some late some big late down throws

2039
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,480
Speaker 5: down the stretch.

2040
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 3: You know.

2041
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, it was.

2042
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 5: It was you know, up and down, and that's how

2043
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 5: I thought it would be coming into the season.

2044
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 2: He'd have you know, games where it all seemed to

2045
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 2: click and he.

2046
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 5: Did well, and then there're big game where I's throwing

2047
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 5: a couple of bad interceptions and you know, looks a

2048
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 5: little off. I think that's more of what a you know,

2049
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 5: a trajectory for a young quarterback looks like.

2050
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 2: But he's just exceeded all those.

2051
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:35,640
Speaker 3: Expectations and every the wins last year, like for example, Chicago,

2052
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 3: they won that game in Chicago. D haven't really enough.

2053
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, no, no, you didn't see anything like this,

2054
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 5: and that's I guess.

2055
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 2: I would just point to the Buffalo game. I think

2056
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 2: that was where it was like, oh boy, he's going

2057
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 2: to do.

2058
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 5: This in front of a national audience against a division

2059
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 5: rival on the road, which you know, right now talk

2060
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 5: about like toughest important game to play every season at Buffalo,

2061
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 5: at Miami Division games on the.

2062
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 3: Road, down the stretch, getting him in field goal.

2063
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 5: You win both those games within you know, and I

2064
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 5: know what the Dolphins have turned out to be. But look,

2065
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 5: you know they never lost the two We know what

2066
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,719
Speaker 5: the house ofholror of Miami has been. So that little

2067
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 5: stretch there, you know, it was what in three weeks

2068
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 5: that they played those two teams.

2069
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 2: That's to me was really really.

2070
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 3: Like the Miami game. You come out, you jump out

2071
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 3: to a lead, and then you lose that lead and

2072
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,639
Speaker 3: it's like up here we are, yeah, right, another game

2073
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 3: in Miami. Yeah, this is the way they go. But

2074
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 3: it didn't know they reversed the team and Drake may

2075
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 3: reverse that and you said, okay.

2076
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 5: And that and that drive against Buffalo at the end

2077
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:32,759
Speaker 5: where you know, my big question coming in is Drake clutch.

2078
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:33,760
Speaker 2: I mean that was clutch I.

2079
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 5: And shaking a guy off, making throws down the field,

2080
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 5: setting up the game winning field goal. You know, it's

2081
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 5: said that that's the stuff. I still haven't gotten a

2082
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 5: point yet though I've seen him out of fred of like,

2083
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 5: you know, when you got to that point, it's certain,

2084
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 5: I don't know what it happened for you with Brady,

2085
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 5: where you're just like, no, he's awesome. He's gonna be

2086
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 5: awesome every week. You know, I haven't quite gotten there

2087
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:50,559
Speaker 5: with Drake yet. And I mean I don't mean that

2088
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 5: as disrespectful. It's just it's all so new to me.

2089
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 5: You know, there's still a part of you waiting for

2090
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 5: is he going to have an off game? Is he

2091
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 5: going to be a little you know, and and there

2092
01:31:57,479 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 5: are been moments, but he just seems to back, you

2093
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 5: bounce back when he has a bad throw and they

2094
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 5: have a bad sequence, and you know it hasn't been

2095
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 5: bad enough yet to really to lose them a game

2096
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 5: since September.

2097
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 3: So you know, Darius and Louisville rights in. He's a

2098
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 3: small sea concern, he says. I understand they haven't needed

2099
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 3: to put points on the board, but it would be

2100
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:23,639
Speaker 3: awesome to see Drake Drake may may see Drake Drake

2101
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 3: may may put up some big numbers. It would also

2102
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 3: benefit him for the MVP candidacy. I don't care about that.

2103
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:33,320
Speaker 3: When you have Josh Allen putting up six touchdowns and

2104
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 3: other stuff, it just looks better for MVP. While we

2105
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 3: are letting up because we can. We can. The Bills

2106
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:41,919
Speaker 3: are putting their foot on the oponent's next. Just my opinion.

2107
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I would say the Bills, you know,

2108
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 5: needed that they were in a game before Josh Allen

2109
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 5: pulled away. But I get the point. That's why I

2110
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 5: brought it up yesterday, is that this is the time

2111
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 5: of year when MVPs need to do MVP things. And

2112
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 5: you know, it's great to have a great September October,

2113
01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 5: but the guys that really excel in November December, I mean,

2114
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:03,560
Speaker 5: that's that's this is MVP time and that's what clearly.

2115
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is aware of.

2116
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 5: And the offensive coaches in Buffalo are saying, look, screw

2117
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 5: getting cute.

2118
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 2: We got a really good quarterback who's a battering ram.

2119
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 2: Let's let him do it all.

2120
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 5: But I love to see, you know, It's just it's

2121
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 5: going to be really exciting to see Drake get into

2122
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:20,200
Speaker 5: a big game, back and forth, toe to toe, down

2123
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 5: to the end, you know. And I mean I do

2124
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 5: have confidence, but it's you know, I'm just not the

2125
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:24,479
Speaker 5: Tom Brady like.

2126
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 2: No, he's just awesome.

2127
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:27,400
Speaker 5: He's gonna, you know, if there's one minute left, he's

2128
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 5: gonna score a touchdown. I don't know that yet about Drake,

2129
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 5: but I feel really good about him.

2130
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 3: Stre Carrie writes in She's from New Hampshire and she

2131
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 3: says I am a she because we were wondering, okay

2132
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 3: last time she wrote in, h do you have any

2133
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 3: updates on Booty and if he has a chance to

2134
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 3: play this week? Well, was Rabel asked about that?

2135
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 5: Well, he wasn't today, but he did say I think

2136
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 5: on on Monday that that Booty be out there today.

2137
01:33:50,160 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 5: So we'll get a full practice report from from Evan

2138
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 5: once he gets back from Well, I guess not here

2139
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 5: on the show, but later today we'll see who's out there.

2140
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, I got an eye out for all those guys.

2141
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 5: You heard very able say, get Stevenson out there, see

2142
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 5: how he feels and be it'd just be great to

2143
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 5: get him back. I think that's an element that they

2144
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:07,599
Speaker 5: that they really need.

2145
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hooper too, Hoop. I mean he's coming, He's come

2146
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 3: up big in some moments they all, you know, being

2147
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 3: full strength offensively down the stretch would be really key.

2148
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 5: And then you know they've had really good injury luck

2149
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 5: generally speaking, and mil Williams.

2150
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 2: Is the first really big blow. But this is what

2151
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: every team goes through. You got to handle it.

2152
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 3: Chris writes, saying, why does Josh McDaniels refuse to use

2153
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 3: Kyle Williams Correctly, he should be running slants, cross or screens,

2154
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 3: et cetera, and use his yards after catchability. Joking of course,

2155
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 3: but excited to hear what.

2156
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, just it.

2157
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,720
Speaker 5: Hasn't as Paul and I mean, we looked at it

2158
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 5: a couple of times in the game on Thursday night,

2159
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 5: you know, look at each other like it just doesn't

2160
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 5: look right.

2161
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 2: It doesn't, you know, you can tell.

2162
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 5: That's another thing I'm getting a sense of as you

2163
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 5: kind of watch it more and more in practice, is

2164
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,759
Speaker 5: like I think Mike Vrabel said it this summer, quarterbacks

2165
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 5: will let you know what receivers like, that's who they

2166
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,200
Speaker 5: throw the ball to the most. And sometimes, you know,

2167
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,439
Speaker 5: Williams has happened a bunch of times where it's over

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Speaker 5: the wrong shoulder, it's a little to the left, he

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Speaker 5: stops here. They just haven't seemed to get that chemistry yet.

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Speaker 5: And I wonder if it's just because Kyle Williams is

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Speaker 5: down the depth chart a little bit. He hasn't been

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Speaker 5: getting a lot of reps with Drake. We didn't see

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Speaker 5: a ton of him this summer, and that's okay, Like

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to rule him out, but no question,

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Speaker 5: he's got some explosive to this.

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Speaker 2: They could use something.

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Speaker 5: Something's not clicking well in the season where let's everything's

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Speaker 5: kind of click with the Josh offense this year, with

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Speaker 5: Drake understanding it, with you know, Boody coming on, with

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01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 5: with Digs slipping right in and knowing exactly where to

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Speaker 5: be and what to do in the key moments. And

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Speaker 5: you know, but I just I continue to hold out

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Speaker 5: hope for Kyle Williams.

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Speaker 3: You know it's got the ability, but I mentally he's

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Speaker 3: got to get it to you.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that's what That's what you just wonder is is

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01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,280
Speaker 5: he not quite grasping exactly, you know, the subtleties of

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01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 5: being a wide receiver in the NFL and how every

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01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 5: step counts and every inch counts, and you know he's going.

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Speaker 2: To put the ball here, don't be over there, you

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Speaker 2: know those kind of things.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of if then in Josh

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01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 3: McDaniel's offense, if this happens, then you do this and

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Speaker 3: you have to be mentally aware. It's not just simply

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Speaker 3: ten yards and cut in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at it.

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Speaker 5: I think a little bit about Malcolm Mitchell, who's similar

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Speaker 5: outside receiver that you saw come in and he just

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Speaker 5: seemed to get it. I mean in that Super Bowl,

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01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 5: he caught a bunch of passes. You know, you could

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Speaker 5: tell Brady had the trust for him. He was in

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Speaker 5: the right spot. So you know, he's one that that

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01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 5: it clicked for. But but I mean it was kind

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01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 5: of late for him too, So I haven't ruled it

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01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 5: out yet. I think they need that, they need that

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Speaker 5: element of him, and it's also just got a fantastic personality.

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Speaker 3: I still my ja just still in the ground when

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01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 3: I saw him catch that ball and just hammered down.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. Bub buy zero to sixty. Anthony from

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Speaker 3: Toledo love the show listening since twenty twenty one. Maybe

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01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 3: I'll call in someday. Go ahead, please, random question, what

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Speaker 3: do you think of us using Drake May's locker room

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01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 3: chant as our fan chant? The Eagles have one and

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01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 3: the Jets have one, why not us? The chant is

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01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 3: pats on me, pats on three one two three, pets.

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01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:06,480
Speaker 2: Pats on men.

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Speaker 3: I haven't heard that yet, that's what he says, pets

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01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 3: On me, pets On three one two three. I mean

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Speaker 3: that's good. What about the one Diggs is doing, the

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Speaker 3: uh we all we got, we all we need.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like they've kind of rallied around.

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Speaker 3: I like that one because it's a it's a question

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Speaker 3: and answer or not a question, but.

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Speaker 2: Call and response, call and response, thank you right right.

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Speaker 2: You know you could do it in the whole stadium too.

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01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole stadium could be doing we always got

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Speaker 3: and and And it kind of lines up with you know,

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01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 3: Patriots fans you know, uh, thinking of themselves, like you know,

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01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 3: it's everybody against us, they all hate us. We don't need.

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Speaker 1: Them, you know.

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Speaker 3: I like it. Yeah, we all we got, we all

2232
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 3: we need.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I got Paul with a good one.

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Speaker 6: We did.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 5: We were shooting PU one TV and we always do

2237
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 5: a little debate segment and we had to talk about

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01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 5: their lack of inactivity at the trade deadline, and I

2239
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 5: was like say with me, Paul, we all we got,

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Speaker 5: we all we need.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: But now it's a good it's a it's a good

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01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 5: little slogan that Diggs has come up with and people

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01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 5: continue to like where did you get it?

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01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:04,400
Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think maybe other teams have used it in the past,

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01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 3: but it's ours now. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna take it.

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01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:13,759
Speaker 2: We're gonna copyright Nowreymark.

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Speaker 3: David, Wisconsin. With regards to the first possession defense, do

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Speaker 3: you think there's a method to the madness. I'm wondering

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01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 3: if Rabel is almost baiting teams to take the ball first,

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01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 3: knowing that they always let up a score on that

2253
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 3: first possession because he wants to double dip at the

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01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 3: end of the half in beginning of the third quarter.

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Speaker 3: You think that's at all possible.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think that's funny. It's a good joke.

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Speaker 5: But was asked about it on Monday and said he

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01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 5: had I think he had four third downs on that drive,

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01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:42,919
Speaker 5: Like yeah, just.

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Speaker 2: Just get to stop.

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01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 3: Just got to get off the field, get off the field.

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Speaker 5: But it is hilarious, and I mean over the last

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Speaker 5: like two three weeks, I'm just I don't even flinch anymore,

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01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 5: Like I would be so frustrated, you know, like again,

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01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 5: here we go and now it happens, and I'm like, yep,

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Speaker 5: there it.

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Speaker 2: Is Okay, there, they're gonna be putting the next four

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Speaker 2: or five times.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, but as we get in to games

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Speaker 5: where every possession matters, they've got to they've got to

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Speaker 5: be better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Franklin and Baltimore. I partially agree that the increased

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01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 3: starting position starting field position with the new kickoff rule

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01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 3: has played some role in a decreased passing yardage across

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Speaker 3: the league. But I think the bigger factor is that

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Speaker 3: we're leaving what was quite possibly the best generation of

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Speaker 3: passers in history. When you have a prime Brady Peyton, Breeze, Rogers, Rivers,

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01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 3: luck for Time and Stafford all playing at the same time,

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Speaker 3: of course, that's going to skew the numbers in favor

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Speaker 3: of prolific passing attacks.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point. That's a great point.

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Speaker 5: I mean really felt like that, you know, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, you moved on from that era of

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Speaker 5: Brady Roethlisberger, Rivers, Peyton Man, you know, that little five

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01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 5: year stretch. But I think that's a that's a good

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01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 5: that's a good point. I mean, it's all, you know,

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01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 5: it all kind of adds into it. There's all kinds

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01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 5: of factors with it, but yeah, like it.

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Speaker 3: It'll probably next year it'll be you know, they'll be

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Speaker 3: passing all over the place.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, Jayden Daniels comes back and he has

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01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 5: some you know, passing yards. Caleb Williams continues to develop

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01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 5: Drake Obviously, this I just I think it's a great

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01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 5: thing for the league whenever these young quarterbacks can develop.

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Speaker 5: I just I don't root individually four teams, and I

2296
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 5: always want the Patriots to win. But at the same time,

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Speaker 5: when you see an organization doing it right, developing talent,

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01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,360
Speaker 5: finding really you know, good quarterbacks or you know, even

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Speaker 5: saving guys from the scrap heap, like Sam Donald and

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Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield, it's just it's great for the league. You

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01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 5: need as many good quarterbacks as you can have. I mean,

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Speaker 5: in a perfect way, you have thirty two of them.

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01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 5: It's never going to work out that way, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: we'll see next year if it bounces back.

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Speaker 3: Ally's bond from Connecticut rights in. He says, they had

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01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 3: a thought this morning, oh, one that I could see

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Speaker 3: happening that could benefit the future years. Let's say the

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Speaker 3: Patriots go far in the playoffs, maybe even win a

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl this year. Trying not to get ahead of myself,

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01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 3: but it's becoming real. What I would love to see

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01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 3: happen is let's be aggressive and trade up in the

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01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 3: first round of the draft for the offense. Let's face it,

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01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,719
Speaker 3: we don't have a long term right tackle or center.

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01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:02,960
Speaker 3: With an aging Digs, we could even snag a wide receiver.

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01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 3: I know it's a defensive class, but I think we

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01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 3: need to strike and continue to become an aggressive football team.

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01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 3: On another note, I think Drake throws four touchdowns and

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Speaker 3: three hundred and twenty nine yards for the first time

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Speaker 3: in his career Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a great question.

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Speaker 3: Straight up, get aggressive and go offense in this draft.

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Speaker 5: I mean it sounds, you know, fine in theory. You

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01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:25,639
Speaker 5: got to have the actual like nip put a name

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01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 5: to the player, I think as Adam as Evan likes

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Speaker 5: to say.

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Speaker 2: But it's a good question. I wish the group was

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01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 2: here because how would you approach the offseason at wide receiver?

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Speaker 5: You know, as all these guys are going to come back,

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01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:38,679
Speaker 5: are you you know who are you trying to upgrade

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Speaker 5: or replace?

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01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 2: Are you you know?

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01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 5: Are you trying to upgrade or replace Kaisham Boudi? Who's

2333
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 5: you know, continues to get better every single year who's

2334
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 5: on a rookie contract has another year on a rookie contract.

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Speaker 2: You know, are you I mean, you have.

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01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 5: To think to the future and you can't, you know,

2337
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 5: imagine Stefan Diggs is gonna play forever. At some point,

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01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 5: You're going to have to develop a guy that can

2339
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 5: have that kind of chemistry with Drake on the guy

2340
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 5: to have a moments. But it's it's no easy thing

2341
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 5: to you know, if you go out and you sign

2342
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 5: a high price price wide receiver, you draft the first

2343
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 5: pick like it's going to come at the expense of

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01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 5: one of these guys. And I'm not saying that there

2345
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 5: aren't better players potentially available than some of the guys

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01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 5: on the roster, but right now it's all kind of

2347
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 5: clicking and you're seeing how it all feeds into each other.

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01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 5: Who are you targeting to get rid of? Who would

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01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 5: you you know, what spot would you be looking to upgrade?

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01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:22,559
Speaker 5: I mean, or you're gonna do it a Kyle Williams

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01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,680
Speaker 5: expense to another guy who's going to come back in

2352
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 5: year two that you hope has an offseason with Drake

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01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 5: and you know, has a better understanding the offense and

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01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 5: maybe a little bit more chemistry.

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01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:32,080
Speaker 2: So it's just it's an interesting position.

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01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 5: I know everybody's desperate for wide receivers, and it makes

2357
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 5: sense to always try to keep.

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01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 2: Targeting great players.

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, this is a kind of

2360
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 5: tough answers, you know, tough, tough, tough way to figure

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Speaker 5: it out.

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Speaker 3: Todd's in North Carolina. What's up, Todd?

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Speaker 23: Hey, guys, big conversation with just two of you going on.

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Speaker 2: No thanks Tod.

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01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 3: Now three of us got two takes for.

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Speaker 13: You, guys.

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Speaker 23: My first point is I agree with Evan. I think

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Speaker 23: the goal posts need to be moved. I think that's

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01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 23: due to Drake May and of course Mike Rabell. I

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01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 23: think they've made it well. And let's put McDaniel's in

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01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 23: there too, because they've they've done it, they've worked it out,

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01:43:08,520 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 23: they've got a formula there. I think we need to

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01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 23: I think we need to win at least one playoff

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01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:15,080
Speaker 23: game this year to be count the sixth year as

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01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 23: a success. And my second point is with Williams. I

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01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:22,599
Speaker 23: feel like he to me, he looks like Booty. When

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01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 23: Booty was first year as a rookie, Booty just would

2378
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 23: get lost on a rout. He just didn't know it.

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01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 23: He didn't get it. And maybe some guys that takes

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01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 23: the year or to get into it. I think Booty's

2381
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 23: what in his third year now, yeah, yeah, yeah, so

2382
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,360
Speaker 23: maybe it takes a lot because Booty, like his first year.

2383
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:40,720
Speaker 23: You wouldn't put him out there and be dependent on

2384
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 23: him for anything, would you.

2385
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:46,400
Speaker 3: No, No, He's He's an amazing turnaround for Booty, and

2386
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,040
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it was growing up a

2387
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:48,479
Speaker 3: little bit.

2388
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he admits that's what he said too.

2389
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,800
Speaker 23: Yeah, So maybe we need to wait for Williams and

2390
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 23: get him to do something similar. So those are my

2391
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 23: two thoughts. I'll let you guys talk creat you guys,

2392
01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 23: all right.

2393
01:43:57,880 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 3: Thanks tot.

2394
01:43:58,439 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 5: I know you guys have you If they don't bite

2395
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 5: his puppies, they're not going to debite his dogs. But

2396
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:05,559
Speaker 5: I still think you can have a guy bounce back

2397
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 5: after a subpar rookie year, especially when he's not getting

2398
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 5: a lot of opportunities.

2399
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 2: But with Kyle Williams' speed, that's just continues to intrigue me.

2400
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 5: And as I've said many times before, I think it's

2401
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 5: an element that this offense misses a little bit.

2402
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 2: With their receives.

2403
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 3: And it's not like he's dropping balls. It's that he's

2404
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 3: not in the right place.

2405
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 2: It just doesn't look right, like that's what me and

2406
01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 2: Paulky say. Just doesn't look right. It doesn't like, you know.

2407
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:28,479
Speaker 5: And otherwise you see Drake putting the ball like you know,

2408
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 5: pinpoint accuracy into a guy's hands. And then when he's

2409
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 5: starting to Kyle Williams, it's like over here, I mean,

2410
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 5: it's not Drake's accuracy. They're clearly just isn't that chemistry yet?

2411
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 5: And hopefully when we see you know, this offseason, oh,

2412
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 5: Drake and everybody's down in Georgia, you know, pontooning or whatever.

2413
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 5: You know, you see Kyle Williams there and he's you know,

2414
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 5: helping him and running plays and getting in the playbook.

2415
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 3: Robert and Portland, Maine right sin. Everyone keeps repeating that

2416
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 3: the Patriots are only good because of our week's schedule,

2417
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 3: but no one acknowledges that the Patriots are supposed to

2418
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 3: be one of those weak teams on the schedule. Paul

2419
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 3: said himself when the season started that the Patriots should

2420
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 3: win most of the games early in their lineup, but

2421
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 3: he estimated they would lose fifty percent of them, that's

2422
01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 3: just how the statistics work. Then we won them instead.

2423
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:18,759
Speaker 3: If the Patriots were only winning because of their schedule,

2424
01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:21,920
Speaker 3: we'd be losing half of our games right now. Also,

2425
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 3: I didn't hear anyone acknowledged Josh Allen saying that the

2426
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 3: Patriots were a lot better team than their record showed

2427
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 3: during his press conference after our loss in Buffalo in

2428
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:34,600
Speaker 3: December last year. My question to you, how different do

2429
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 3: you think our record would have been last season if

2430
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 3: Rabel and McDaniels were coaching.

2431
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 2: Oh geez, that's a good question. It is a good question.

2432
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 5: I mean a lot to a lot of threads, you know,

2433
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 5: to on pull, but I know it as was it Drake?

2434
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 2: Rookie Drake?

2435
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2436
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:51,479
Speaker 2: And he started on the get go?

2437
01:45:51,640 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. First of all, I would assume if Rabel was

2438
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 3: the coach in the offseason last year, he would have

2439
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 3: started Drake. May I think I think everybody on the

2440
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,200
Speaker 3: show at the gate, I think we all just thought

2441
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:08,599
Speaker 3: that Rake should start, not Jacoby Brissette. Right, I can't

2442
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:09,679
Speaker 3: remember I think I did.

2443
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 2: I don't think I did.

2444
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 5: I think I was okay, getting getting our feet wet

2445
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 5: with Jacoby a little bit I think.

2446
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 3: I I mean, I wasn't like, you know, ranting and raving.

2447
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 3: But if I had my choice, I would have started

2448
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:19,800
Speaker 3: Drake May.

2449
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2450
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you know, looking at the schedule,

2451
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 5: I mean at San Francisco, Houston was tough last year,

2452
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 5: but you could have beat the Jaguars, the Titans, I mean,

2453
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 5: the Jets.

2454
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, but they would have won more than

2455
01:46:34,280 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 3: four games. Yeah, let's put it that way.

2456
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 5: I mean, Indy, I mean there were some there were

2457
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 5: definitely there were some easy schedule games last year.

2458
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 7: They know.

2459
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 2: Plus you didn't play Buffalo until but.

2460
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 5: Twice in the last three weeks, which is just bizarre.

2461
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't know, it's I mean, it's just

2462
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 5: tough to say. With the quarterback is.

2463
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 2: The biggest situation for me.

2464
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 3: Oh oh boy, Hello, I feel like we should have

2465
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 3: some entrance music out.

2466
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:59,480
Speaker 2: Look, who's back from the locker room?

2467
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 3: Alex is here? Hi Alex?

2468
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 2: Sorry you need a song? We don't know, I don't know.

2469
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 3: You tell us where are you coming from the locker room?

2470
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 22: And so where do we start? Diggs, Scrum, Evan Cam,

2471
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:17,679
Speaker 22: you know, the drill, Eft and Chisholm and Garrett Bradbury today.

2472
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. He was very excited.

2473
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 22: Yeah, And I saw him talking to Fton and I

2474
01:47:23,720 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 22: was like, is he actually going to be talking about

2475
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:27,560
Speaker 22: like this community.

2476
01:47:27,080 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 2: Angle or.

2477
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 21: That he wasn't asking about that stuff.

2478
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 22: But I definitely only heard football, but that's all I

2479
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 22: could overhear a couple of lockers down.

2480
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, great, let's talk about your would you talk to

2481
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:42,880
Speaker 5: the lock I figured.

2482
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 22: I would go into the digs scrum because we didn't

2483
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 22: really have anyone over there.

2484
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 21: So it was actually like kind of a loaded one.

2485
01:47:49,240 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 21: Nobody no one farted that I know, at least not

2486
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 21: on my side.

2487
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:57,680
Speaker 3: Thing but told us I don't know, you don't know,

2488
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 3: was no, do you have it narrowed down to like

2489
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 3: five people?

2490
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 2: Maybe? I don't even want to, Like.

2491
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 21: You have people's arms coming out of you from either end.

2492
01:48:08,280 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 5: I mean, the girl farts smell different than boyfart's, depends

2493
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 5: what like if it's kind of fruity or you're like that,

2494
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 5: probably a girl fart.

2495
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 2: It was a little fruity.

2496
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 3: The soul for ones, Okay, all right, okay, anyways, interesting

2497
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 3: stuff out of the Digs one.

2498
01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 22: He said that he was kind of asked if Drake

2499
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 22: was like a big lure him for him to come here,

2500
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 22: because that's what Rabel said on the Thursday Night Football Show,

2501
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 22: and he said it was kind of like a conglomerate

2502
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,880
Speaker 22: between McDaniel's rabels, Drake, and Todd Downing, who he has

2503
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:44,000
Speaker 22: a relationship with.

2504
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 21: Going back to Minnesota.

2505
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 22: He talked about how he seemed he feels like he's

2506
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 22: like studying more film than ever before with a receivers coach.

2507
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 22: From I hope I'm not miss quoting him. It's hard

2508
01:48:54,080 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 22: to hear, but from like a quarterbacks perspective. And then

2509
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 22: the really interesting one was talking about how Drake throws

2510
01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 22: a really catchable ball and it kind of has like

2511
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 22: a basketball touch on it. And then he sneaks in

2512
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 22: that he had a broken finger a couple of weeks ago,

2513
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:12,679
Speaker 22: so he told Drake he really appreciates how he throws

2514
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 22: the ball.

2515
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 2: I think it was roch.

2516
01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 21: She was like, wait, let's go back to that. You

2517
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 21: broke your finger a couple of weeks ago.

2518
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 22: And stuff was like, yeah, don't worry about it, And

2519
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 22: I'm not worried about it, so you don't have to.

2520
01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 2: Like I'm guessing he probably is still broken. It was

2521
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago.

2522
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 5: That's fine now thought wow, because it's continuing to impress

2523
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 5: me with toughness.

2524
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 3: And yeah all, I mean that's been a really great

2525
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 3: development this year. Is not just Digs, you know, playing well,

2526
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 3: but the leadership. Yeah yeah, I mean that's the influence

2527
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,880
Speaker 3: he's had over a wide receiver room last year that

2528
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 3: was in shambles. Yeah.

2529
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:50,799
Speaker 2: Him and Hollins too. I just think I always mentioned

2530
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 2: both those guys. I think they're kind of a good

2531
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 2: twosome to you know.

2532
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 5: I mean, Hollins talks a lot about him and Chisholm

2533
01:49:56,920 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 5: have this funny relationship. But you know as firsthand, I

2534
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 5: mean the every Wednesday Digs ready to go. You know,

2535
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 5: people walk in the locker room, He's standing there ready

2536
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:08,040
Speaker 5: and you know, saying all the right things. And you know,

2537
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 5: I just am so impressed with the player that he is.

2538
01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 5: When you I mean, we saw him when he was

2539
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 5: a buffalo, and he would you'd see that you know,

2540
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 5: four or five, six, seven, eight catches he would have

2541
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 5: against you. But when you watch him week in and

2542
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 5: week out, and you see the little things that he

2543
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 5: does and the little moments and the little extra yards

2544
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 5: that he gets here and there, or the got to

2545
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 5: have it moment when you it's gonna probably go to Diggs,

2546
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 5: and they still go to Digs, just like Josh Allen did.

2547
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

2548
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:33,040
Speaker 2: He's he's a he's a really remarkable player.

2549
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:36,640
Speaker 5: And it's you know, not all these guys, like superstars

2550
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:39,799
Speaker 5: don't always have like the biggest size and the fastest speed.

2551
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 5: Like you wouldn't really think Stefan Diggs is all that

2552
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 5: remarkable just standing there. But the way that he tempos

2553
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 5: his routes and the he kind of runs like you

2554
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:49,559
Speaker 5: can't get a beat on his speed. He is a

2555
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 5: master route meet, you know, master meet and it shows

2556
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 5: like the craft of it. It's not just yeah, just

2557
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:56,639
Speaker 5: run fast and get open and catch the ball. There

2558
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 5: is you know, real thought that goes into it. And

2559
01:50:59,000 --> 01:51:01,600
Speaker 5: he's he's among the best in the league today of

2560
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 5: being able to get open and you know, find space

2561
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 5: and make catches and keep the ball, keep the.

2562
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 3: Change of mean he's great with may imagine him with

2563
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 3: Tom Brady. I mean, I go back to Randy Moss.

2564
01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:16,960
Speaker 3: You know, Randy Moss had a high, high football IQ

2565
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 3: and that's why right away he blended well with Brady

2566
01:51:22,200 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 3: because they were just on the same page from day one.

2567
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 3: And you know, Diggs is is much the same. He's

2568
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,200
Speaker 3: got a high football IQ.

2569
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 5: He's bringing the best out of you know, everybody around him.

2570
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:35,960
Speaker 5: And yeah, I say, you know, he's such a like

2571
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 5: I said, m VP offensive MVP after Drake.

2572
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 2: You know, he's just he's he's been huge.

2573
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2574
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 3: I put Will Campbell up there too.

2575
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 2: I thought about him.

2576
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,240
Speaker 5: I mean I thought about him and Moses just because

2577
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 5: what a disaster of the offensive line was.

2578
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he's like, just for the reason alone the

2579
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 2: last two years ago, all we talked about was like.

2580
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,840
Speaker 5: The offensive line is such a disaster, like you can't

2581
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 5: do anything, you know, and and and maybe to that

2582
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 5: point when you talk about last year when they said, oh,

2583
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 5: if Rabel was the like, is this still the same

2584
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 5: offensive line from last year?

2585
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 2: Because fair enough, maybe it wouldn't looked as different.

2586
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,440
Speaker 5: I mean, I think Josh is pretty smart and experienced

2587
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 5: and would maybe know how to work around that, and

2588
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 5: maybe with better coaching they could have gotten better play

2589
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 5: out of.

2590
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 3: Well that's a good one, because but if a coaching

2591
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 3: staff was all the same as last year minus Rabel,

2592
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,600
Speaker 3: it may not be that much better because it was

2593
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:26,640
Speaker 3: a hodgepodge of coaches that Mayo had no history with.

2594
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 3: You didn't know who they were. They were just trying

2595
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 3: to cobble it together and it just didn't work. And yes,

2596
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 3: we can talk about may and Vrabel a lot, but

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01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 3: these assistant coaches are another big reason why we're seeing

2598
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 3: the turnaround we see it.

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01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 22: My lunch has been so consistent. I mean last year,

2600
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 22: how many different variations did they roll out? Like what

2601
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:49,760
Speaker 22: group went out there? More than three times altogether?

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01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was ridiculous, And I mean and it was

2603
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 5: nice to hear Brabel credit the trio of assistant coaches

2604
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 5: that are on the offensive line with Robert Kugler and

2605
01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 5: Jason o'tayling haas they call him, and Doug Moron, who

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01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 5: it's still like I keep reminding myself like he was

2607
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 5: a head coach in the league. You forget that your

2608
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,880
Speaker 5: offensive line coach, you know, coach both in Buffalo and

2609
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 5: and Jacksonville, and you know was in an AFC championship

2610
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 5: here in Jacksonville.

2611
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 2: I mean, they just got a lot of experience on the.

2612
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 3: Alex were you Averbel?

2613
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 21: I was?

2614
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 3: Do you know why the line of questioning to start

2615
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 3: off was all about like you know, his relationship with

2616
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:30,599
Speaker 3: players and culture and all that stuff. Like is there

2617
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,439
Speaker 3: something going around that people were talking about before the

2618
01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 3: press conference that made them ask those questions?

2619
01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 22: Or I wonder if it's stems from Thursday night in

2620
01:53:38,560 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 22: the postgame show with the crew there for Amazon, just

2621
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 22: kind of talking about how like these guys are like

2622
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 22: a lot of them his kids age, so it's it's

2623
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 22: kind of fun to be like coaching them.

2624
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 21: And I don't know, but I don't know.

2625
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 22: I think the beginning of the press conference took me

2626
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 22: thrown off automatically because Karen Grigian has Jerry duty.

2627
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:00,760
Speaker 3: Oh I could say, R was like.

2628
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 21: Okay, Karen's not here, looks for Sophie. I think Nicole

2629
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 21: Yane got the first question today.

2630
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 2: You were like on deck.

2631
01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 3: So she's still on jury because she was on Monday.

2632
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 2: Maybe she got on a jury.

2633
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 3: Maybe yeah, maybe she's a questered.

2634
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 21: Imagine she's on serving on the Grand Turk or something.

2635
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 3: You know.

2636
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 5: Speaking of the Amazon crew, though, Alex keep a holiday

2637
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 5: card to Paul, and I was kind of disappointed. I

2638
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 5: did not receive a holiday card.

2639
01:54:23,200 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 21: Always, and I printed it out as a joke.

2640
01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 22: You were at your desk and I have one for

2641
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 22: you too, but you're grinding away and I didn't want

2642
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:30,320
Speaker 22: to see you.

2643
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:31,720
Speaker 21: Paul was not at his desk.

2644
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 5: I was like, this will be you got to describe

2645
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,760
Speaker 5: it college not even at the was it a holiday

2646
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 5: card of a show what he wrote?

2647
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: You got to talk about it.

2648
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 22: We've just been having a joke, like I think going

2649
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 22: back to early last week about like Chris Thompson, how

2650
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 22: excited we all were to see her.

2651
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 2: Because some of us for some reasons, right next.

2652
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 21: To us.

2653
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 22: For I think more legitimate reason. Right, I had a

2654
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 22: great moment with Carissa. We talked for a long time

2655
01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:57,879
Speaker 22: after Thursday at football.

2656
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:02,400
Speaker 21: She followed me back on Instagram. Big deal, A nice message.

2657
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:05,840
Speaker 22: But I took the photo that we took together, and

2658
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 22: just to be funny, I like went on Canva and

2659
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 22: made myself like a Christmas card template and I just

2660
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:13,720
Speaker 22: said like, Merry Christmas from Alex and her.

2661
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 21: Close personal friend Chrissa, and put it on Paul's desk.

2662
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 2: Got a good laugh. I got in there today because.

2663
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 22: He wasn't in there to see if he did anything

2664
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 22: with it, it's probably in the trash.

2665
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 21: It was nowhere to be found.

2666
01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:24,840
Speaker 5: We had a lot of fun with it, like she

2667
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,000
Speaker 5: was getting you know, dressed in like a little corner

2668
01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,000
Speaker 5: of where kind of outside of where we sit, and

2669
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 5: like I to get to Paul's office, I kind of

2670
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:32,600
Speaker 5: have to walk out, and so I kept making.

2671
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 3: The joke of like, oh did you get that thing?

2672
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:35,480
Speaker 6: You know?

2673
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 3: When I'd walk out, did did you see that?

2674
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 19: You know?

2675
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:38,560
Speaker 6: You know?

2676
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 2: But that was cool. We had a good time.

2677
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 21: One quick thing from the locker room.

2678
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 3: I'm surprised they don't have their own makeup thing when

2679
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:47,840
Speaker 3: they they have to use.

2680
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 2: They took that up shop they did.

2681
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 22: It's like a little pop up situation. They had like

2682
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 22: two director's high top directors shires, They had lighting, and

2683
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 22: then one to two makeup girls.

2684
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 3: You should have hopped in there like hey, get some

2685
01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 3: free makeup.

2686
01:56:02,280 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 21: No, right, makeup artists don't like that.

2687
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:06,440
Speaker 22: Like if you, like are in a wedding and you

2688
01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 22: say you don't want your makeup done, and then at

2689
01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 22: the last minute you try to slide in there, They're.

2690
01:56:09,920 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 5: Like, no, is it hard though as a girl when

2691
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 5: you get your makeup done, because you probably have like

2692
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,840
Speaker 5: your regime that you like and then they're going to be.

2693
01:56:15,880 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I'm giving you like a shadow or I

2694
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 2: don't know.

2695
01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 22: What totally, but you're more of like a neutral I or.

2696
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 5: I was a man of honor and a wedding with

2697
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 5: my was man of honor and my and my friend

2698
01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 5: Ashley's wedding and they had girls do makeup for all

2699
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 5: the bridesmaids.

2700
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 2: And they're like, you want to get your hair done?

2701
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I swear to god, they made

2702
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 2: me look like I was on the Jersey shore, Like

2703
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 2: they gave me this like weird haircut. And now, like

2704
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 2: all the pictures of the wedding.

2705
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:42,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, what is it like Ronnie doing in They're

2706
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:45,240
Speaker 5: like reading the you know, reading my speech, Like this

2707
01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:46,920
Speaker 5: does not look right on me at all.

2708
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 2: It was totally different. Yeah.

2709
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:52,720
Speaker 22: Quickly though, Ramandre kind of was looking like he was

2710
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 22: gearing up to go out to practice for sure, based

2711
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 22: on his outfit. Yeah Hooper, I didn't see, but I

2712
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 22: wasn't in there the whole time. I saw Christian Ellis

2713
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 22: heaping up hands.

2714
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 2: I feel like it's good.

2715
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 22: Maybe not taping yourself up if you're not going to

2716
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 22: go out and participate.

2717
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 3: Be good to get him back. Yeah, I forgot about him.

2718
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I need some depth he can, he can,

2719
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 2: he can scoot.

2720
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's good against Chase Brown, who

2721
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 5: Evan mentioned, and the Patriots have kind of struggled against

2722
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 5: those kind of guys. I mean, I think if I

2723
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:24,360
Speaker 5: was desperate in a fantasy situation, I might like slip

2724
01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 5: Chase Brown in there just as a wild card, because

2725
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 5: I mean, if I was Joe Flacco, I would say,

2726
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:30,640
Speaker 5: we're targeting you short.

2727
01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 2: Try to you know, keep the chains moving. We push

2728
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 2: the other guys down the field.

2729
01:57:33,480 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 3: Yep. All right, Well listen, it's been fun, but it's

2730
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 3: time to go. But we'll be back tomorrow at noon.

2731
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:45,720
Speaker 3: It'll be Thursday, so we'll have the full crew for

2732
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 3: a little bit. We have the picks tomorrow, so we'll

2733
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 3: have to hurry and we'll be getting that much closer

2734
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 3: to the Cincinnati Bungles. Let's go, all right, Thanks for listening. Hey,

2735
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:00,000
Speaker 3: this is out.

2736
01:58:00,200 --> 01:58:01,400
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2737
01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:03,160
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2738
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:06,040
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2739
01:58:06,040 --> 01:58:08,800
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2740
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:11,400
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2741
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 24: everything else we do here at the Patriots.

2742
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:14,080
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot,