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Speaker 1: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Annik and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear that both.

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Speaker 3: Next big job there, Cooke, Duffy and Breckers.

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Speaker 2: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 4: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: That's all.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 6: I like Kenny Florian's hat better this week than last

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Speaker 6: Warner Brothers Discovery.

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Speaker 4: You don't look like a train conductor today, kind of

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Speaker 4: a little bit.

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Speaker 3: If I got a little pointer, I got the dad

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Speaker 3: hat going on, but it's a little crooked.

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Speaker 4: God, I look like a tool, all right. Well, anyways,

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Speaker 4: I'm giving up hats, John, That's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 6: Hey, it's great to be here, though, isn't it. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 6: March First, the Year is twenty twenty three, Episode three

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Speaker 6: ninety three of the Anak and Florian Podcast presented by

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Speaker 6: Draft Kings, where he can find full episodes on the

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Speaker 6: YouTube channel clips on the af channel. So I'm here

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Speaker 6: in Las Vegas, embedded in this UFC two eighty five

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Speaker 6: fight week. I'm about to do the drive of shame

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Speaker 6: from the five star Encore to the UFC host Hotel

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Speaker 6: New York, New York. So we're about to downgrade here

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Speaker 6: in a little bit, but there are a few things

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Speaker 6: I want to get to with you. Off the top,

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Speaker 6: We're scheduled to be joined by Louisiana's finest, Brendan Allen

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Speaker 6: here after a big main event win in a few minutes.

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Speaker 6: Also pending Marlon cheto Vera later in the show, but

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Speaker 6: he trains a lot, so hopefully the schedules are aligned

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Speaker 6: there also, time permitting, we'll get a few thoughts from

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Speaker 6: Ken Flow on Darren Till's release, but this was something

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Speaker 6: that he asked for, so I'm not sure that we

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Speaker 6: need to read too far into that. I'm wearing the

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Speaker 6: Boston Bruins T shirt today. Patrice Burgh on the Boston

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Speaker 6: Bruins last night, get out shot fifty seven to twenty

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Speaker 6: right and still win the game four to three in overtime.

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Speaker 6: Damn Allmark makes fifty four saves for the best outfit

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Speaker 6: in the NHL. Right now, So here's your Calgary Flames

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Speaker 6: ticket from last night. Kenflow from the win right, always

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Speaker 6: trying to purchase these victories for the Boston Bruins, were

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Speaker 6: always getting involved.

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Speaker 4: I was getting involved classic.

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Speaker 6: So I'm watching film in advance of UFC two eighty

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Speaker 6: five and there's a fighter by the name of Luik

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Speaker 6: Rajabov who is going to make his UFC debut. He

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Speaker 6: fought housh MANFIO under the PFL banner for a million

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Speaker 6: bucks not all that long ago. And I got to say,

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Speaker 6: and I know this, I wrote this too privately, to

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Speaker 6: which he responded, it's all a blur. And I'm with

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Speaker 6: you on Matt, It's all a blur. But what an

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Speaker 6: outstanding call by you and Sean O'Connell and Randy Cots

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Speaker 6: were outstanding twenty five minute call. Great championship call, Kenny, Thank.

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Speaker 4: You, dude, Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Luik is a beast man. He is as tough

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Speaker 3: as they come. One thing's for sure. He's going to

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Speaker 3: be exciting to watch and uh yeah, keep an eye

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Speaker 3: on him, for sure.

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Speaker 4: So he makes his UFC debut.

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Speaker 6: I think actually he was going to be on The

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Speaker 6: Ultimate Fighter, but he ends up making his UFC debut

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Speaker 6: out of Tajikistan where they really support MMA, which is

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Speaker 6: very exciting. So we'll see how it goes. Trains under

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Speaker 6: Henry Hooft, And speaking of which, We're very happy to

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Speaker 6: now be joined by a man who is all the

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Speaker 6: rage at president and rightfully so back home in Louisiana

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Speaker 6: with his girls. I do believe the now number twelve

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Speaker 6: ranked UFC Midaway contender Brendan all in all and great

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Speaker 6: to see you, brother, Welcome home.

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Speaker 4: How are you, brother?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Hey, number eleven and I don't care what

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Speaker 1: those say the number.

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Speaker 6: All right, yeah, I mean I looked it up this morning.

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to do my homework. But yeah, I was

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Speaker 6: going to say, I mean, you beat Andre Moonnize Moniz,

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Speaker 6: however you want to pronounce it, and you submit him

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Speaker 6: no less. So Kenny Florian picked you at plus one

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Speaker 6: fifty five, who was very excited to see you. Cash there, buddy,

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Speaker 6: So congratulations man, you've won four in a row. I

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Speaker 6: actually had the chance to congratulate you at the airport

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Speaker 6: as we sort of passed as you were headed back

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Speaker 6: way South Florida to Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: It takes me like eleven hours. Yeah, man, I left

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Speaker 1: at like two am. I woke up from like eleven

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Speaker 4: Get on the road. See those girls.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I'd imagine, you know, I drove ten hours

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Speaker 6: from Atlanta to South Florida after the Patriots won a

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl. And I'm not necessarily trying to compare that

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Speaker 6: adrenaline rush or that positivity to winning a mixed martial

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Speaker 6: arts fight, right, but I'd imagine after a win, that

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Speaker 6: eleven hour drive is not a huge problem, you know.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of funny when I thought, uh, Carl

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Speaker 1: Robertson and Jacksonville, the first event back from COVID. I

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Speaker 1: I drove from South Florida to Jacksonville. I went back

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Speaker 1: to the hotel, I showered, I watched, you know when

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Speaker 1: I don't advise this bro driving and watched in the

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Speaker 1: replay of the fight the whole time.

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Speaker 3: There's something about a fight though, like if you win,

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Speaker 3: you're just, you know, just kind of jacked up on

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Speaker 3: adrenaline and excitement and all that stuff, right, And then

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Speaker 3: if you lose, for me, I wouldn't sleep either, because

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Speaker 4: Replaying it in my head, like what the hell did

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's a weird feeling after a fight. Man,

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Speaker 3: you definitely have a lot of energy either way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you get the bonus, you get your twenty

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Speaker 4: first professional win. How old are you? Twenty seven, twenty

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven, Phil, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It's amazing. It's amazing, twenty one professional wins.

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Speaker 6: So I'm here in Las Vegas, so I don't have

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Speaker 6: like my Brendan Allen fighter card right with all of

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Speaker 6: my notes. That's why I'm actually asking you your age.

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Speaker 6: But it's been an incredible career I think maybe underappreciated

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Speaker 6: get into the fight, so let's talk about it. Rear

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Speaker 6: in round three and I don't know, man, I just

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Speaker 6: handled everything brilliantly during fight week, everything through the postfight

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Speaker 6: press conference, but ultimately, I think our listeners want to

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Speaker 6: hear most about the performance. So what were your thoughts

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Speaker 6: on the fight relative to your expectations going in?

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Speaker 1: Well, first off, thank you, I appreciate it. It was

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Speaker 1: can he especially you know that it's different being in

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it was kind of like he was

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Speaker 1: he did best, in my opinion was when he was

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Speaker 1: I was always nervous, like to throw like an uppercut.

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Speaker 1: and it makes me want to fight another South Paul,

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Speaker 1: even though I've been doing is fighting South Palls.

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Speaker 6: But I hear that a lot guys want to fight

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Speaker 6: left these when they get into uh what you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I thought more South Pauls in the

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Speaker 1: I fought like two years worth of just south balls,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know, I wasn't really thinking too much

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Speaker 1: like that before they takedown. So it was accurate when

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Speaker 1: I threw it. When I bulboed up on my lead

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Speaker 3: So bredgett you know, heading into this fight, obviously the

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Speaker 3: narrative realman is is that he's a phenomenal submission artist, right,

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Speaker 3: he was someone you got to watch out for this

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Speaker 4: Did you have that expectation as well?

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Speaker 3: Like I got away stay away from his ground game

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Speaker 3: and then you felt it during the fight, and because

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Speaker 1: So my ego was like, I'm gonna go out there

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Speaker 6: know for balab Muhammad, your good friend, you know, it's

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00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 6: all about sort of the positioning, Like why not I'm

436
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 6: just curious get on a mic.

437
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 4: And perhaps it's because you want to slow play it

438
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 4: a little bit.

439
00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 6: But he like, hey, Jared cannoneir bro number three of

440
00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 6: them world, you already fought for the goddamn belt, didn't

441
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 6: go particularly well.

442
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 4: How about a main event? Right?

443
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 6: They like to headline you a lot, right, Like obviously

444
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 6: you're not trying to like fast track into the top

445
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 6: three immediately. It's great for the promotion to have a

446
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,719
Speaker 6: guy like you that's willing to fight all these guys.

447
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,359
Speaker 6: But Billow would tell you not to fight Chris Curtis

448
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 6: number fourteen in the world, right.

449
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's burning off fights on the contract,

450
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: right because the more I burn off, the more money

451
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 1: I get paid. And you know, like my fights. This

452
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 1: is my first contract at a six fight, and it's

453
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 1: not new. I think this was my second fight on

454
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Speaker 1: the contract. So if I burn another one, I got three.

455
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 1: I win another one. That's four. You know, we're kind

456
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 1: of looking at bigger things, top five at that fint

457
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 1: that at that point maybe even close to a belt.

458
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: So that's where money changes tremendously. That's life changing money

459
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 1: at that time. And don't get me wrong, I do

460
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 1: well for myself right now, especially from where I'm at.

461
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 1: And you'll never hear me complain about and things like that,

462
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 1: because to me, everyone works. If you want more money,

463
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 1: fight more and fight better guys, you know. But yeah,

464
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to flow play it for that reason.

465
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: But don't get me wrong, And everyone who knows me

466
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 1: knows if they call me a fight. Number three in

467
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,959
Speaker 1: the world, number two in the world. That's who you're

468
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 1: going to see me fight. I've never said no to

469
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: a guy, especially if they're good. Obviously it's nerve wracking,

470
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 1: but I enjoy the challenge.

471
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 6: All right, A couple more things before we let you go.

472
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 6: I know you're back home with your family and your daughters.

473
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 6: Kenny and I came across a video as we were

474
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Speaker 6: getting ready to talk to you about your brother James. Obviously,

475
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,919
Speaker 6: back in twenty thirteen, the accident in the pool, and

476
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 6: you know you were able to get him out and

477
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,919
Speaker 6: you started CPR and everything else. But I know that

478
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 6: that has been a challenge emotionally and otherwise for you

479
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 6: and your family. But dude, I watched this video of

480
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 6: you as such a young man and talking about you know,

481
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 6: you're trying to win a regional belt, and then you say,

482
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 6: if I get the UFC contract, I'm going to frame

483
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 6: that and give it to my brother and his niece.

484
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 6: And it's like, man, look at you now. You know,

485
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 6: I know you're not at the pinnacle, but how much

486
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 6: have you been able to I know your daughters are young,

487
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 6: but how much have you been able to share your

488
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 6: success with James and your and your niece.

489
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 1: I try to do as much as I can. I

490
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: give all this, you know, like the clothing stuff that

491
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: we get, the venom and especially my fight jackets to me.

492
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: That's like when they ask for a product back. I

493
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: never give back my fight jacket just because I always

494
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: get that stuff back to my brother. Like you go

495
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: over to my brother's house and you'll see him wearing

496
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: something something venom. You know, it's something that means a lot.

497
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: When I won my first LFA belt, I framed that

498
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 1: one and that's over his bed right now. So he

499
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: has that my first LFA belt and the gloves and

500
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: pictures from that fight. It's framed over his bed. And

501
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,479
Speaker 1: then the second one that I won, he ended up

502
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: doing the same thing back, so I have the second

503
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: one in my house. And I think the ultimate reason

504
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: that I always really really want to fight in Louisiana

505
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: is one because that's what I claim is home, even

506
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: though I'm not born here. This is my home is Louisiana.

507
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: But the main factor is the fact that my brother

508
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: can't really travel to my fights, unless maybe Texas he could.

509
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: But still it's the fact of like you know, his

510
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: showers and stuff at night, those showers. My brother's a

511
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: big boys, he's six six normally, and his chair is

512
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: big and yeah, so it's it's a lot in small spaces,

513
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: So it's it's just good for him to be at home.

514
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: But fighting here in Louisiana, no matter where it is

515
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: in Louisiana is just fine for him to be able

516
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: to come here and be a part of it. And

517
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of something I want to do before I retire.

518
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: So let alone bringing an event, a UFC event back

519
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: to Louisiana, which I know so many people wann't really

520
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: bad yea here, it's more so to have my brother, Hopefully,

521
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever I can to have him and my

522
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: dad walk out with me and share that experience. And

523
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: I've always said win lose. If that happens, that's something

524
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: that means more to me than winning a world title,

525
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: than and being a number in the world. The money

526
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: to me that I can retire at any point after

527
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: that and be happy with where I went in my career.

528
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 4: That's incredible, man. I think you're going to be able

529
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 4: to check that box.

530
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 6: And honestly, I think you know, given your status now

531
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 6: you know, you hate to say, man, keep winning fights

532
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 6: and you can actually realize that dream. But obviously they

533
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 6: are a little bit inexorably linked. I do think if

534
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 6: Hunter and Dana were made aware of that circumstance, you know,

535
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 6: given your status now is contender, I think eventually you're

536
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 6: going to be able to check that box. But hey, man, congratulations, dude,

537
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 6: get back to your girls. And what's it like going

538
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 6: home to your wife after a win like this? You know,

539
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 6: it's probably pretty special.

540
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: I would think, well, it's a hell of the time

541
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: to kind of break that. But we're not really married anymore.

542
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: Oh all right, yeah, but it's no great, Like we're

543
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 1: still really good friends. We still talk every day, right,

544
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: But yeah. It's still nice though, because you get to

545
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: go back here. I get to see my kids, and

546
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: my oldest one is kind of at that age where

547
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: she's like a mama's girl, and she always has been

548
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: a mama's girl, but she's like, but my little one,

549
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: it's all Daddy likes that amazing changes and like she's

550
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: out right, she's out there right now, and she fusses

551
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: because she didn't know how I went, and it's it's

552
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 1: a it's a weird time because I'm my oldest one

553
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: being like that, but still like she'll tell me, she'll

554
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: talk to me on the phone. I'm going FaceTime, like

555
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: I want my daddy, I want my daddy. You get home,

556
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: and she's like, leave me alone, you know. But it's good, man.

557
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 1: It's good to just get back home and see them,

558
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: no matter if they little brats or not. That's right.

559
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: It's good to just go out and go do something

560
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: with them. And my brother's got a nice pool, so

561
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: we'll go over there later and nice.

562
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 5: Man.

563
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a it's a good time. Like That's

564
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 1: the best part to me is coming back home and

565
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: taking a week or two off and just spending every

566
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Speaker 1: moment I can with them.

567
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, there can be a re entry though with the kids.

568
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 6: I remember getting the cold shoulder from my son for

569
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 6: a six month stretch every time I come back from

570
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 6: one of these road shows. But yeah, that is what

571
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 6: it is, all right. Brendan Allen Midway contender number eleven

572
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 6: in the world. Will say keep growing to let us

573
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 6: thank you for the time in and we will we

574
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 6: look forward to your next fight, main events or otherwise. Man,

575
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be a big one. Congrats,

576
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 6: enjoy it with the family. We'll talk to you.

577
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 5: So, thank you guys for having me.

578
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks for all the time, our pleasure, buddy.

579
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Speaker 4: Thank you.

580
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 6: Brendan Allen with us here on the Annik and Florian podcast.

581
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 6: So October eleven, twenty thirteen, his brother James six six

582
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 6: hit his head on the bottom of a pool and

583
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 6: Brendan pulled him out.

584
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 4: He was like blue down to his chest. Brendan started

585
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: CPR C four five and six damaged. C five was

586
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 4: pushed into the spine, and you know, Brendan has gone

587
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: to great lengths to try to help him. I remember

588
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 4: back in the day, Kenny, when we were getting ready

589
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 4: to call one of Brendan's early UFC fights. He was

590
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 4: talking about making enough money in his fight career to

591
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: be able to purchase this chair for his brother.

592
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 6: And I know given for you with your brothers and everything,

593
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 6: and that your siblings have meant to you and mean

594
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 6: to you. I know that that hit you pretty hard,

595
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 6: and it's a pretty emotional thing for Brendon.

596
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: Good dude right there, absolutely, man, And that was an

597
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: extremely powerful video you sent me. I had no idea

598
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 3: I had no idea about that story. I haven't heard

599
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: it in interviews or anything like that, but you know,

600
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 3: that can also be a very motivating and powerful force

601
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: to drive a fighter, and to see that, and also,

602
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: you know, like the level of maturity that Brendan Allen

603
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 3: had back then I think was really impressive.

604
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: Him talking about the story.

605
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 3: And and what it means to him and how he

606
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 3: wants to give back just just really cool. And Brendan

607
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: Allen is he's he's one of the good guys man.

608
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 3: So it's great to see him back then talking about

609
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: how we wanted to be in the UFC one day,

610
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: how that was a big dream. And to see him now,

611
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: you know, coming off that main event win man and

612
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 3: establishing himself as one of the top middleweights in the

613
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: world is really.

614
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 6: Cool, pretty amazing. We got to get that show on

615
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 6: Louisiana somehow, some way for Brendan Allen. So Darren Till

616
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 6: is no longer with the UFC, this seems sort of

617
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 6: a temporary thing. If indeed Darren Till returns to fighting.

618
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 6: Here's the quote from the Gorilla himself. What's happening everyone,

619
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 6: And obviously this would sound a lot better if it

620
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 6: was Darren reading it and not myself but me, Dana

621
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 6: and Hunter are still cool as fuck, by the way.

622
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta talk about the swearing a little bit.

623
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 6: I read the comments every now and again, right, And

624
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 6: in terms of whoever it is out there that has

625
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 6: a seven year old that considers me a role model

626
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 6: to whatever degree, I really appreciate that. I am going

627
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 6: to try to cuss a little bit less. It is

628
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 6: hard for me, right because this is the platform on

629
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 6: which I really get to be myself. And Kenny knows

630
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 6: I grew up in the Northeast and you know, we

631
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 6: you know, we have foul mouths if you want to

632
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 6: call it that. You know, I cuss in front of

633
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 6: my children and it's up to them to not go

634
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 6: to school and cuss. And that's really the way I

635
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 6: feel about it, you know. So I am going to

636
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 6: try to scale it back a little bit. But I

637
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 6: can't promise that this show is not going to be explicit, right, Like,

638
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 6: there are plenty of words that you will never hear

639
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 6: me say, right, Brenda Allett actually uttered one of them

640
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 6: during that interview, right, But you know, I f U

641
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 6: c K just so happens to be one of my

642
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 6: favorite words of all time, and I can't just omit

643
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 6: it from my vocabulary overnight.

644
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: Right, And it's the same thing like, if they are

645
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: watching MMA, you could argue, hey, well, what are you

646
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: doing having your kids who are very young watching MMA?

647
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 4: For example?

648
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 3: There's people I'm not saying that's show. There's people who

649
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: would have an issue with that, right, Hey, kids should

650
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: be watched. So everyone has a different perspective on how

651
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Speaker 3: you raise your kids. Would you allow them to see

652
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Speaker 3: hear all that stuff? So again, yeah, but.

653
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Speaker 6: In terms of cannabis and cussing, I will cut it

654
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Speaker 6: back because I never necessarily fancied myself a role model

655
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Speaker 6: to anyone other than my three children. If I'm being honest,

656
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Speaker 6: you know, and man do I love to cuss.

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Speaker 4: I tell you.

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Speaker 6: What's happening everyone, Me, Dana and Hunter are still cool

659
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Speaker 6: as fucked till referencing UFC executive Dana Whiten Hunter Campbell.

660
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 6: I asked UFC to remove me just to sort some

661
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 6: other stuff for the foreseeable. They happily agreed to release

662
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Speaker 6: me out of the contract, which I appreciate. I'm not

663
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Speaker 6: going anywhere, got big plans to execute and I'll be

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Speaker 6: back so dwn till thirty years old. One win since

665
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Speaker 6: twenty eighteen, a split decision win over Kelvin Gastolom. He

666
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Speaker 6: was seventeen oh one when he fought Tyron Woodley for

667
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Speaker 6: the title back in twenty eighteen. Has fallen on some

668
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Speaker 6: hard times and we'll see where the affable and likable

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Speaker 6: darn Til goes from here.

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Speaker 3: That was interesting, you know, reading that this morning, I

671
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Speaker 3: was a little surprised. However, I don't think this is

672
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Speaker 3: a bad decision. I don't know what's going on in

673
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Speaker 3: his life personally. Maybe perhaps that is what he's alluding to.

674
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: Maybe it's another opportunity or whatever. But I think, you know,

675
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: he's still young, and he still has so much potential.

676
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Speaker 3: I think that some of his decision making, you know,

677
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: some of the techniques and the way that he's presenting

678
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: his style right now perhaps isn't up to par what

679
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: I think a lot of us think about Darrent Hill

680
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: on what we thought he would be in this sport.

681
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: So sometimes taking time off, stepping away from the sport, reassessing,

682
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: doing all these things can really help a fighter or

683
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Speaker 3: a professional athlete, and I hope that it does the

684
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Speaker 3: same for Darren Hill, who is always entertaining in and

685
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Speaker 3: out of the cage.

686
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Speaker 6: All right, So I'm out here for UFC two eighty five.

687
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 6: I have the fighter meetings here on Thursday morning. I'm

688
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 6: coming to you early on Wednesday. So this episode probably

689
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Speaker 6: ingested by many of you on Wednesday. And a huge

690
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Speaker 6: part of the narrative leading up to this fight is

691
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Speaker 6: the suggestion made by sieedle Gan himself that he isn't

692
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Speaker 6: necessarily a Jim Ratt training twenty four to seven, three

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Speaker 6: sixty five. And fernand Lopez, I think, has had some

694
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 6: comments about this, that Gon has turned a corner, that

695
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 6: maybe he used to be that way.

696
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Speaker 4: But whatever. There is part of this in Seattle Gone.

697
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Speaker 6: Part of this existed in sele Gon at some point

698
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 6: in his mixed martial arts career. So I'm watching UFC

699
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Speaker 6: embedded and I have this quote from John Jones Kenneth

700
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 6: and he says, Seedle Goan is just here right now,

701
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 6: his words, let me go, let me know, he doesn't

702
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 6: believe he'll be here for a long time. And I'm

703
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 6: not losing to a guy like that. And John Jones

704
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Speaker 6: has been very frontal when it comes to talking about

705
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Speaker 6: Seedle Goan's training right, and how clean the gym room

706
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 6: looks right, how clean his clothes look, maybe how relatively

707
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Speaker 6: small his wrestling training partners look. So I'm going to

708
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Speaker 6: bring that quote to Seedle Goan in the fighter meeting,

709
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Speaker 6: and I'm curious what he's going to say about it.

710
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Speaker 6: Do you have anything for us on what is obviously

711
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 6: the lead narrative right now for the undisputed UFC heavyweight

712
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 6: title fight coming up this week? Oh man, I am

713
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Speaker 6: so glad you brought this up. And I am so

714
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Speaker 6: glad that I watched those embeddeds last night as I was,

715
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Speaker 6: you know, surfing YouTube.

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Speaker 4: First of all, brilliant stuff from John Zon.

717
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: His ability to analyze and look into things and and

718
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Speaker 3: also poke at at his opponent.

719
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Speaker 4: I think it's just amazing stuff.

720
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Speaker 3: I also think that I saw a certain venom and

721
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Speaker 3: a certain fire within John Jones that I haven't seen in.

722
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Speaker 4: A very long time.

723
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Speaker 3: The big problem with this is if you are doing that,

724
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Speaker 3: Let's say you're you're you're only training when you have fights,

725
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Speaker 3: or maybe you're not training all the time. It says

726
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: a couple of things. Either you're you're a phenomenal athlete.

727
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Speaker 3: That's one or number two, that you can pick things

728
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Speaker 3: up that quickly, right because you're such an athlete, or

729
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: number two that maybe your heart isn't in it as

730
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Speaker 3: much as you think it is. John Jones, in contrast,

731
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Speaker 3: I think over the last few year years has matured

732
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Speaker 3: to the point where he was training, whether he had

733
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Speaker 3: a fight or not, he is trying to get better.

734
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Speaker 3: And hearing the words come out of his mouth saying

735
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Speaker 3: that I owe it to everyone else who can't do this,

736
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Speaker 3: who doesn't have the talent that I have, was great

737
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 3: to hear because I think a lot of people feel

738
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Speaker 3: that way. So again, I think, and I hope that

739
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 3: this is a different John Jones, and if so, I

740
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: think it's going to be a phenomenal fight. Either way,

741
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Speaker 3: God is dangerous, but hearing that out of Jones man

742
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: was awesome. I got so fired up. A show's listen to.

743
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Speaker 3: I can't wait for this weekend's car Dude, it's sick.

744
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Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I'm gonna shake John Jones's hand and

745
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 6: be as starstruck as ever there's about him as professional

746
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 6: athlete and speaking of guys, and this is a dear

747
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Speaker 6: friend of the program, but a guy who I still

748
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Speaker 6: get a little bit starstruck around the most decorated finisher

749
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Speaker 6: in UFC bantam weight history, the number four rankntender Marlon

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Speaker 6: Cheito VERA. Good morning, my friend. We appreciate your time

751
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 6: very much.

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Speaker 5: Sir, anytime. Guys, how are you go good?

753
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: We're better now. Man, you're looking very handsome.

754
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Speaker 6: So, so what are we doing with the hair for Saturday,

755
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Speaker 6: March twenty fifth?

756
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: We've grown out the lettuce right now?

757
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 5: What?

758
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I'm I'm a very last minute

759
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Speaker 2: person in.

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Speaker 5: Terms of the way I look.

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Speaker 2: So I could either get a faith on Firewik, I

762
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: could shape it the night before, or I can just

763
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Speaker 2: go the way I use. I wake up today before

764
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Speaker 2: the sporting so I used don't know. I really go

765
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: by feeling sometimes believe.

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Speaker 5: It or not.

767
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Speaker 2: I open my IG and I see you getting a

768
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: fresh shape. I say today, I go like that Dones

769
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Speaker 2: entering Firewik, and you have a faith I fought with.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what I'm gonna get that. I'm

771
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 5: very easy going. I'm like, you know, monkey see monkeys.

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Speaker 6: I don't well, I just keep my eyes open while

773
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 6: we look forward to whatever.

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Speaker 5: I let it grow too.

775
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Speaker 6: Well, we look forward to whatever the look is, and

776
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 6: it seems like there was a great motivation from the

777
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 6: UFC to get this fight in front of a crowd, right,

778
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 6: this main event between you and Corey Sanhagen Saturday, March

779
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 6: twenty fifth, if you don't know, San Antonio, Texas at

780
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Speaker 6: and T Center. Capacity crowd probably twenty two, twenty five thousand.

781
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 6: Like when this main event was announced, it was met

782
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Speaker 6: with such fan enthusiasm, but it immediately was also met

783
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Speaker 6: with this noise like these guys can't be competing at

784
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 6: the UFC Apex. So how did that all go down

785
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 6: with sort of the five week delay and what were

786
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 6: your thoughts on all of that.

787
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Speaker 2: To me, it was I concurt less where I'm fighting right,

788
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: you know, right, if the paycheck is right, if the

789
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: party's gonna get Mataro shot, I come fighting in my

790
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: garage in the street. So when they called me, they

791
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: called me two weeks out, which is it's pretty fuck

792
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: out right, but it is what.

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Speaker 5: It is, right, gotta handle it. At the end of

794
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 5: the day. If you're gonna win, they you're gonna win

795
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 5: the tuny feet, the you're gonna lose. It gonna be

796
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 5: either way.

797
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: So to me, I'm gonna I don't get sense in

798
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: a way like I will freaked out a stress.

799
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 5: I'm like, you know what, you know, I just asked

800
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 5: for a little a little motivation, and here we are.

801
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: You know, we changed the day then, you know, more time,

802
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: more reps, and you know, I was ready to fight eighteen.

803
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie about it for a minute. I

804
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 5: was like, can we just skip the date?

805
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: And then they told me like, hey, this is like

806
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: I kind of felt they needed they move right, So

807
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 2: why why is the fuck you when I can give

808
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 2: them what they want and then let it get.

809
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: What I want.

810
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: So, you know, just just just playing the game and

811
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 2: when you're ready, you're ready. It doesn't really matter the day,

812
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: the arena, who's watching. I'm just ready to go.

813
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: Geet know, maybe I haven't been paying attention, but I

814
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, you're you're one of the most

815
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: real fighters out there, Like you're not afraid to say

816
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 3: what's on your mind.

817
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: But I do feel like there.

818
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: Is a shift at a certain point where you're like

819
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say whatever I want and do whatever

820
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: I want. And you know, like when did that shift happen?

821
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: And why did it happen?

822
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: You think.

823
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 2: I feel I always had this attitude of a go getter,

824
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Speaker 2: of a guy that you know us you know, a

825
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Speaker 2: straight shooter.

826
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 5: But you know, at some point.

827
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 2: I would say this because my experience was very small

828
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: at the beginning, like fighting in South America didn't really

829
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 2: for the big shows, didn't really for you know, I thought,

830
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys from Brazil, a bunch of res

831
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: for around the world. But I never get that that

832
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: that big competition, never get to build a record kind

833
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: of like get amateur fights.

834
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Speaker 5: So I met it to UC with six and one right.

835
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Speaker 2: So my first time fights, I was on fear I'm

836
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: gonna get fired, I'm gonna get caught because I was

837
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: I was so small that I you know, I keep

838
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: it real. I always keep it real, and back then

839
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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm so small that I lose a

840
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Speaker 2: fire by.

841
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 5: The decision, I'm gonna get caught.

842
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: So you don't know what's gonna happen at that level

843
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: because you know you're assuming gonna pull that. There's like

844
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 2: forty guys trying to break it to the top thirty

845
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: and I wasn't even able to break it at the beginning.

846
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: But going back to what you ask is because you know,

847
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: you live with fear. You're like, you know, fuck if

848
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: I say this and might do like this. If I

849
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: say fuck you, they might don't like this if I

850
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: go you know, you just you don't have the experience.

851
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 5: And I'm a little bit little. I started kind of

852
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 5: like telling myself, like, you know what, You're not a

853
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: kid anymore.

854
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not the guy that makes you twenty one,

855
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: you know, and it's cute, and everybody feels sorry for

856
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: you because you're fighting for your daughter, and I at

857
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: one point, I will, you know what, fuck the world.

858
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: I don't own nothing to nobody. I'm gonna be myself,

859
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: carry myself.

860
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 5: And you know, just I work too hard.

861
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 2: To kind of like be shy. So I went, you

862
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 2: know what, fuck everybody. I'm gonna I'm gonna love my people,

863
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: work for my people, and whoever is with me cool,

864
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: whoever is against me cool too. So I'm just gonna

865
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: go forward and all that. The moment I started working

866
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 2: with Perrillou, he really bugged me to the next level mentally, physically.

867
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 5: He just he was in my career. He's the best

868
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 5: thing that probably ever happened to me.

869
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it. Man, I could see it.

870
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you one more thing, man, was

871
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 3: there a fight that you go back on experience that

872
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 3: you had over the course of your UFC career that

873
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: changed you, that kind of made you feel like, hey,

874
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: I could be one of the best pantom weights in

875
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 3: the world. I could be a champion in this division.

876
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: The fight that kind of changed that.

877
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 5: The whole the fight really gives me in nightmares for months.

878
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: I would wake up in the middle of the night

879
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 2: pist of for myself is just saying like just really

880
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 2: kind of like upset, kind of like just just bomb

881
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 2: about it, because you know, for from from the TV,

882
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 2: it seems like the guy took my back and hold

883
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: me right. But like I was in there, like I

884
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: was in the cage with the guy, and I saw

885
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: how broken he was.

886
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 5: At the end of the second round, he was hurt.

887
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: And in the terr round, I came too cocky, too quick,

888
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 2: too fast, and he just he was really he used

889
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: to advantage of my mistake because in that run, I

890
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: literally Parrilla was telling me like, hey, stay, come, keep

891
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: doing your thing just a little bit little because he

892
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: saw me how pop I wasn't just like fuck man,

893
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: I don't I don't need anything. I'm I'm gonna kill

894
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: this guy. And I just went anybody who can go

895
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: and watch it back? I literally want to just throw

896
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 2: a haymaker with spin around. He took my bag and

897
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: when I could explode and get out of the position,

898
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: I was just like, I'm gonna kill this guy.

899
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 5: I'm gonna, I'm gonna get out of here.

900
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna because I felt his energy. He was he

901
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: was drained, but that doesn't mean they can fight back.

902
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: So that lesson was the best thing that ever happened

903
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: to me because that happened, and that was literally the

904
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: fight I would put me in the top ten and

905
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: well put me in the position I was maybe after

906
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: the phone fight. By losing that fight, I literally went

907
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 2: back fully back to the letter They give me a

908
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: guy outside the.

909
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 5: Top fifteen, which was a room with Devid Grant. Hey,

910
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 5: did you miss your opportunity for you? Now go and

911
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 5: do it again. And that was really what happened. And

912
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 5: I was pissed and I was mad, but at myself.

913
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: I never blamed on a coach or a person or

914
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: a family member like any I you see it today.

915
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 5: Everybody happened excuse for everything. Oh my mom didn't treat

916
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 5: me well and I felt bottom. Fire come. Oh my

917
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 5: wife left me. Oh my uncle didn't talk to me.

918
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 5: I like to take.

919
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: Things by the handle and just carry everything by me.

920
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: I lost that fire myself. I make the mistakes. Now

921
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: let's make the judgments. And the judgment was just trend harder.

922
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 5: Don't cry like a little bit and let it go.

923
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: Really, I don't hold to that advice. I didn't lose

924
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: to him and started talking. He said to him for

925
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: three months. He goes like, cool, did you beat me?

926
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: If we have to fight again, I swear I'm gonna

927
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 2: kill you. But that's what I happen.

928
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 5: Just let it go.

929
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 6: You have see beandam Way contender Marlin chiedo Vera with

930
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 6: us here on the Anak and Florian podcast. So you're

931
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 6: very good at mentally sort of just focusing on the

932
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 6: things that you can control. But when we speak, it

933
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 6: seems like I'm in more rush for you to I'm

934
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 6: in more of a rush for you to fight for

935
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 6: the title than you are, right And part of that's

936
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 6: because you're not worried about the things that maybe you

937
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 6: can't control. You talk about maybe the Jose Aldo fight

938
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 6: getting away, the song you don't fight in twenty twenty

939
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 6: that you should have won. You know, who knows you

940
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 6: might have already fought for the title by now. So

941
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 6: do you feel like there's any blessing within all of

942
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 6: this that now, at thirty years old, you're on the cusp,

943
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 6: you're one win away, and and now maybe it's happening

944
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 6: at a better time given the alignment with Perillo and

945
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 6: everything else.

946
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: I really have this conversation with Perilla many times, right,

947
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: and you know, the Soja don't fight, that's the one

948
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: that I don't really conflict bring it too much. It's

949
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: just because how the entire world went against that, and

950
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: when hey, fuck the guy you want, fuck the GFC

951
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 2: you want, And I was just like, yeah, I know that.

952
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 5: Cool.

953
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: It's not a YOUFC problem. It's not my oppointing problem.

954
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: It's just it was bad judgment. Who knows right? We

955
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: can really I can get conspiracy theory right now, but

956
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: who knows right? I just want to believe the judges

957
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 2: fucked up that night, And yeah, that's truly I couldn't

958
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: fighting for the bell already.

959
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 5: But also.

960
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: When when all those two fights happened, I wasn't full

961
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: time with Perillo. I hadn't build this relationship with him,

962
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: and I just want to believe I wasn't ready for

963
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: for handle bigger stage. You know, people can say whatever

964
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: they want. You can only know once you get there.

965
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: And not many people get there, you know, the people

966
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: that whole belt. You can only count them with, you know,

967
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: with a bet of hands. So it's not like everybody's

968
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: a champion. Might as well if I'm going to get there,

969
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: get there with all my guns ready to go. And

970
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: I feel like now at a moment, and you know,

971
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: and as now, if you ask me about the belt,

972
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck about the right the bell.

973
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm fighting cores at Hallen. The guy does not have

974
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: the belt, but I gotta go through that guy to

975
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: get there. So I just feel I put all my

976
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: energy into fucking drilling a hole.

977
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 5: Through his face.

978
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: And then I'm sure the UFC will give me a belt,

979
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: and if they, well, I just have to do the

980
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: same thing to another guy.

981
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 6: I think I get frustrated at times as your fan

982
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 6: because you have everything right. I think you're the total package. Right,

983
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 6: You move all the needles, right, check all the proverbial boxes, oh, and,

984
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 6: by the way, most decorated finisher, and you have se

985
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 6: bantam Waite history. I know better though than to ask

986
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 6: you about Henry sudo cutting the line, because I know

987
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 6: largely you don't give a shit. Let me ask you

988
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 6: this in terms of your public approval rating, right, Kenny

989
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 6: talks about how real and relatable you are. I know

990
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 6: everybody has haters, every public figure does, but I'd imagine

991
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 6: there's an overwhelmingly there's much more love for you out

992
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 6: there than hate, is there not?

993
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 5: Yeah?

994
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.

995
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: I believe that's because the way you carry myself. You

996
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 2: know people, you really touch people's hearts. If they la

997
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: like you or they don't, if he is standing through

998
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: the right, if you keep it pretty honest, even if

999
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 2: they might didn't like at the beginning, because they're more

1000
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: of a fun of your opponent of somebody else, they

1001
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: will realize. Because I know myself, if let's see a

1002
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: former opponent or somebody I don't like and they say

1003
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: the right thing, or they say something that impagged me.

1004
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: If I'm like, funk that guy I want the kick

1005
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 2: is asked, I'm like, you know what what you just say?

1006
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 5: I like it.

1007
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: I respect that as a man, and I feel that's

1008
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: what It's gonna give me more longevity on people's mind.

1009
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: It's gonna give me more life in people's heart, just

1010
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: because people will forget about who you be. Like, let's

1011
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 2: just go a couple of years ago. Who thinks about

1012
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: others in silver? Nobody thinks about and silver. I do

1013
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: because I'm a big MMA fan. But if you go

1014
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: and see how many lives impact who he got to

1015
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: his heart, it is more, probably more. I don't know

1016
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: him personally, but what I'm trying to say is, like

1017
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: people forgetting what happened on Saturday the night is what

1018
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: you do outside the cage, how you carry yourself, It's

1019
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: gonna last longer. It's gonna give you more at the end. Right,

1020
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: bells will come and go, money will come and go.

1021
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: But the fact that everybody fuck with you and all

1022
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: the the doors are open, You're gonna be good the

1023
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: rest of your life.

1024
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to be respectful of your time. I

1025
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 6: have a few quick questions on the way out. How

1026
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 6: often do you go back to Ecuador? And when was

1027
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 6: the last time you went? And do you have any

1028
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 6: future plans to get back there?

1029
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: I was supposed to go back last year because my

1030
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: bis I was my greenker, haven't I haven't got my

1031
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 2: grinker yet.

1032
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 5: I was able to go back. Now the Grinker is approved.

1033
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: Now have like a little credential that I can go anywhere,

1034
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: So I will probably go after this fight. Last time

1035
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: I went was after the Fun fight and it was

1036
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: a really nice trip.

1037
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 5: Like I never see that much love in my life.

1038
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 5: It was. It was crazy.

1039
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: I realized that, well, okay, now figure it out next

1040
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: time I come here. I can't come by myself like

1041
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: I was with my coach, with my friends, with with

1042
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: two of my best friends to day film for me.

1043
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 5: But I did like real big guys to help.

1044
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's amazing, man, I was.

1045
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 5: I was, But I was like, I couldn't believe I

1046
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 5: become that I was. I was amazed by it.

1047
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: I was in Orlando last week and we had an

1048
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 3: Uber driver who was from Ecuador and he was saying,

1049
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: how we have Marlon Cheeto Vera now, so we're very excited,

1050
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 3: and he just kept talking about you.

1051
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: Man.

1052
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 4: It was it was cool. It was cool.

1053
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 5: Ye, it's great.

1054
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 7: It's crazy to go from a guy that was getting

1055
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 7: in trouble big when I was a kid going to

1056
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 7: Yale for a street fights and now they oh me,

1057
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 7: it's crazy to me to.

1058
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: Realize that, and to me, when you really appreciate that,

1059
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: you keep coming more and more to you.

1060
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's one.

1061
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: Thing I always talked to Coach is everybody gets to

1062
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: a certain point in life, but it's how you handle

1063
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: it right.

1064
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 5: And then if you handle it right, you keep getting

1065
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 5: it more and more and more.

1066
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 2: So I'm just really excited about my near future because

1067
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: I see really really good thing is coming my way.

1068
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 4: All right, two more quick ones factor fiction.

1069
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 6: Cheeto Vera will take a fight at featherweight before his

1070
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 6: UFC career is over. Oh, one hundred percent, okay, And

1071
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 6: then I just want to ask you about the Spanish

1072
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 6: television commentary. I know, I hope someday we can actually

1073
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 6: do commentary in English at least join us for a

1074
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 6: few fights. But to what degree has that helped you

1075
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 6: in terms of your fighting career, either watching film or preparing.

1076
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 6: Because a lot of fighters lean heavily into that, they

1077
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 6: say it helps a lot. Has that helped you in

1078
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 6: your fighting career?

1079
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't know for sure if that makes me

1080
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: a better fighter, but I just really, really enjoy do

1081
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: commentary later that it's for me doing commentary is the

1082
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: going to serve Even if I'm watching a fight, takes

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Speaker 5: I'm literally what I like the most is being in there.

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Speaker 2: I feel the energy lives because you can you can

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Speaker 5: That just help me to fill this lid. Everybody gets hurt.

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Speaker 3: That's my different perspective, right, being there, even like watching

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Speaker 5: Yeah, almost like it's.

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Speaker 2: Almost like like you are in there getting repetitions mentally

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, totally, man, we can.

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Speaker 2: Lose, Okay, we all can lose. But some people don't

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do that, and they will give it.

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Speaker 6: They will give up Saturday, March twenty fifth. That's the

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Speaker 6: San Antonio, Texas. Appreciate your time on man sincerely, and

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Speaker 6: But we look forward to watching March twenty five.

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Speaker 5: Brother, Thank you guys, appreciate you both and thanks for

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Speaker 6: great stuff today from Brendan Allen and just there from

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Speaker 6: Marlin Cheito Vera. What an absolute stud sliding into Ken

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Speaker 6: how to loosen.

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Speaker 4: Up those elbows. What a stud. Huh dude.

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Speaker 3: It's awesome first of all, just awesome talking to those

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Speaker 3: two gentlemen. Cheeto's the man, dude, he really is. He's

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Speaker 3: a fighter, but he's also a Marshall artists and you

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Speaker 3: see the improvements that he's made man over the course

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Speaker 3: of his career. It's crazy seeing him really come out

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Speaker 3: in every way, shape or form. You know, he's very outspoken.

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Speaker 3: Love watching him fight. That fight against Sanhagen is just gold.

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Speaker 4: Dude. Those are two of the best right now.

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Speaker 3: Love watching those guys, insane amount of skill going at

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Speaker 3: it that night and can't wait but this weekend man nuts.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it is a title eliminator between Marlon Vera

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Speaker 6: and Corey Sandhagan. Now, Henry Sahudo as a two division champion,

1163
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 6: is going to get opportunities, right, and he's get an

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Speaker 6: opportunity to cut the line here. You know, I think

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Speaker 6: you can argue al Jamain Sterling is the worst matchup

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Speaker 6: the most money is champion. You know a lot of

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Speaker 6: people feel like the Aljo fight would be better for

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Speaker 6: him to avoid than the Sahudo fight.

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Speaker 4: Depending on where you fall on that. Who knows.

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Speaker 6: But I've talked to Jason House, Marlon Chidovera beats Corey Sandhagen.

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Speaker 6: He's going to sit down and wait first championship opportunity,

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Speaker 6: and that's what you gotta do. So we will see

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Speaker 6: how it all plays. But a big one coming up,

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Speaker 6: needless to say, on March twenty fifth. All right, last

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Speaker 6: thing before we get you out of here, kemp floy,

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Speaker 6: I know you got PFL Challenger series coming up this

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Speaker 6: out fucking standing. She's not with us anymore.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I say, Brendan out I know, Hey, you're two.

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Speaker 4: For two, dude, you gotta now you've got a guy

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Speaker 4: bring We're not sure.

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Speaker 6: We're not sure yet. There's there's uh yeah. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 6: Brendan Allen, welcome home to your wife. He's like we're

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Speaker 6: not together. I'm like, hey, Lillian's awesome. Well, actually she's

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Speaker 6: not with PFL anymore. Awesome, great, all right, last thought

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Speaker 6: UFC two eighty five before I let you go. So

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Speaker 6: when I suggest to people that I think that Alexa

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Speaker 6: Grosso has a chance this weekend and she is live

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Speaker 6: to whatever degree as underdog, I'm getting some strange looks,

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Speaker 6: and it seems to me like the prevailing wisdom is

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Speaker 6: that if Valentina wins or loses, I should say to

1194
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Speaker 6: any fighter, it's going to be that maybe she gets

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Speaker 6: a little bit overwhelmed on the ground. We've heard Aaron

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Speaker 6: Blanchfield talk about how maybe her approach on the ground

1197
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Speaker 6: is a little bit minimalistic or simple. How do you

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Speaker 6: handicap Alexa Grosso's chances? Because I don't know. Maybe I

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Speaker 6: got rose colored glasses, but I think we might get

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Speaker 6: a competitive comin event this week.

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Speaker 3: You know, I alluded to it a little bit on

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Speaker 3: our last podcast, And the more I think it, the

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Speaker 3: more I was thinking about it, the more I thought

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Speaker 3: that Grasso legitimately has the chance.

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Speaker 4: I still do.

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Speaker 3: Listen, there is no fighter out there that is perfect. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Chef Checko has her vulnerabilities. There are ways to beat her.

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Speaker 3: Does Grosso possess the skills to do it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think she does in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 3: You know, Chefchenko's not the most technical grappler or most

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Speaker 3: you know, sophisticated grapple in the world, and Grasso has

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Speaker 3: been improving in that regard a lot. I also think

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Speaker 3: Grosso's hands are something to be aware of. You you

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Speaker 3: can't sleep on those at all. She's very fast, she

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Speaker 3: knows how to put together combinations. She's getting much better

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Speaker 3: angles right now, and I think again, the improvements she's

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Speaker 3: made as a grappler significant. I think where Chefchecko has

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Speaker 3: a huge, you know, advantages in the experience, right the

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Speaker 3: experience in those five round fights, but Grasso has skills

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Speaker 3: to really pose a problem for Shipchecko.

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Speaker 4: I do believe that we'll see how it all plays out.

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