1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. Hello, welcome back to the show. My 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: name is Matt, my name is Noel. They called me Ben. 6 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: We're joined as always with our superproducer alexis codenamed Doc 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. You are here, 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: and that makes this the stuff they don't want you 9 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: to know, Fellow conspiracy realist, is one of our favorite 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: days of the week. As you are hearing this, it 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: is Monday, which means it's time for some strange news. 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: People on YouTube are sick and their own armies at 13 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: your favorite supermarket superstores. People in Germany are doing a 14 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: little bit of fandom with their research, and across the planet, 15 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: Russia is building a shadow fleet of people of ships. Specifically, 16 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: this is news a lot of people will miss, but 17 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: turns out those sanctions may not be worth as much 18 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: as we would have assumed before we do anything. Though, fellas, 19 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: I think it's time for us to shout out code 20 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: named Doc Holiday. As everybody's hearing this recently, Doc and 21 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: one of the friends of the show, Lauren Vogelbaum, did 22 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: a kick ass Disney episode. Did you guys hear it? 23 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: Do you guys check it out? Yeah? Yeah, you can 24 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: find it on Disney Plus or I'm just choking the 25 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: stuff that Disney Plus doesn't want you to know about 26 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: Disney and it absolutely rules. Alex straight up talked about 27 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: slow cooking Walt Disney's head. Yeah, I couldn't be more proud. 28 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: How else do you get the head? Cheese? And so 29 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: as as you all may know, we are lucky, immensely 30 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: fortunate to be able to once in a while ask 31 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: our superproducer for a favor, and we did, and Alexis 32 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: came through. Doc Holiday of course came through for us, 33 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: and hopefully you will check out that episode. We can't 34 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: wait to hear your thoughts about Disney. But while we're 35 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: talking the world of entertainment, we also want to give 36 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: someone else their flowers. Keanu Reeves Jianu Reeves the actor 37 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: also not a bad person at all. The guy's pretty cool. 38 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: I mean, definitely hear all these, uh Keanu Reeves kind 39 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: of you know fanboy stories like good ones like he 40 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: It's it's the kind of stories you hear that almost 41 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: take on the air of urban lore, you know what 42 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean. The idea that he went to the Possessions 43 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: to add in a movie, bought candy bars, and then 44 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: and threw it away just so he had something to 45 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: sign to give to the ticket taker who had asked 46 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: him for an autograph but he didn't have anything to 47 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: write on. Or the fact that this is not a 48 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: nerve a legend. The fact that Keanu Reeves gave the 49 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: special effects team of The Matrix a ton of his 50 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: salary and profits from that film franchise because he knew 51 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: who was doing the work credits very important to us 52 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: on the show. And apparently, Matt, this is a story 53 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: you found. Apparently there are some researchers in Germany who 54 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 1: feel the same. They're pro Kyatu. Yes, if you don't 55 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: like Keanu Reeves, look yourself in the mirror just for 56 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 1: a little while and just try to figure out why 57 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: you don't like that awesome human being. So yes, But ultimately, guys, 58 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: this story comes to us in a bit of a 59 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: roundabout way. Going through the voicemail. We got one from 60 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: a frame of constant Caller a frame and I want 61 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: to play that for us really quickly, because this story 62 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: actually goes back to early February of this year, but 63 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: it was written about very recently on CNN, which is 64 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: why I'm bringing it to the table today. And it 65 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: related back to this voicemail. So this is a hybrid 66 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: listener mail Strange News segment. Right here, he's a frame again. 67 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: And I thought of a little thought experiment for you 68 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: that I think you guys might appreciate while listening to 69 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: the recent Strange News when you mentioned to be introducing 70 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: tamthers in Florida and whatnot, taxing of that term apex predator, 71 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: and I think false idea of a hierarchical food chain. 72 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: A lot of humans they go, we're at the top 73 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: of the food chain, Well, get naked into cage with 74 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: the tiger if you're at the top of the food chain, 75 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: because the tiger's not wearing anything, the tiger doesn't have 76 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: or the tiger doesn't have a gun, and then the 77 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: tiger doesn't have a weapon, the tiger doesn't have planes 78 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: or armor or anything. It's naked in the cage with you. 79 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: And what you feel on top of the food chain, 80 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: taken in the cage with the tiger no, And really, 81 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: if you extend that thought, when that tiger dies, it 82 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: will get eaten by vultures and flies and maggots and 83 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: gnats and molds and fungus. Most molds and fungus is 84 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: in penicillin and savory morals or even fun magic mushrooms. 85 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: I propose the top of the food chain is occupied 86 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: by only if it is a hierarchy. First rue gets 87 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: the circle. But if we're insisting that there must be 88 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: a top of the food chain, then the only logical 89 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: organism to place at the top of the food chain 90 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: are toxic funguses that can't be eaten by anything because 91 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: everything dies and everything is consumed by fungus, even vultures 92 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: and wise, so if the decomposers are decomposed by a 93 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: fungus that nothing can eat, that is the only logical 94 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: top of the food chain. If we must have a linear, 95 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: hierarchical Jordan Peterson food chain um or we can just 96 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: let it be a circle. Understand, there is no top, 97 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: there is no bottom. Everything is a flat circle. Reggie lad. 98 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Then it's much easier to see it. But it must 99 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: be a king. It's the deathcap. Thank you for the show. 100 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: Hitting up sorry, A Frame, it was a great though. 101 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: I like the true detective reference as well. Oh yeah, 102 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: But ultimately I think the point that any Frame is 103 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: making there is that, you know, the food chain is 104 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: very weird when you think about all things die, all 105 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: things decay, something you know causes that, And then could 106 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: it be possible that it's in as above so below 107 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: situation when you're thinking about the food chain, the true 108 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: top is the fungus. And if there's a fungus that 109 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: cannot be eaten because it is so toxic, then maybe 110 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: it wins. Overall, we've been talking about fungus a lot 111 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: late lately because we're you know, we're all in the 112 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: last of Us mode. There's only one episode left everybody 113 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: actually it probably it just came out as this episode 114 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: is coming out, so we're all watching it in real 115 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: time right now. In the most recent episode that we've 116 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: all seen, there was a really great quote from kind 117 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: of the baddie of the episode talking about how fungus 118 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: really is godlike essentially and deserving of worship because of 119 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: all the things that that A Frame said that everything 120 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: returns back to it. It is the ultimate destroyer and creator, 121 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: and that it will do anything to protect its ability 122 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: to spawn. Well, I've been saying that fungus is one 123 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: of my like Ben's top picks for an organic extraterrestrial organism. 124 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: You can also see the studies we've mentioned in previous 125 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: episodes on the tricky nature of intelligence, especially when applied 126 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: to the activities of those fung guys mispronounced on purpose 127 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: because no pun left behind, that's right. But yeah, yeah, 128 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: So the fungus, we need to fight it. We've been 129 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: talking about it on this show a lot. We need 130 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: to be able to fight it as humans as because 131 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: it infects us. Many different funguses can affect human beings, 132 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: can cause very very serious harm as well as death 133 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: to us, and it comes in all kinds of different forms. 134 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: And we also need to protect our crops against fungus 135 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: because we've learned over the years here that fungus is 136 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: one of the biggest killers of things like grapes and 137 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: trees and all kinds of plants that we generally need 138 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: to eat, even plants that we need to feed animals 139 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: that we consume. So we need to find ways to 140 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: kill fungus more effectively as that fungus becomes more effective 141 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: at fighting against our means to kill it. Okay, So 142 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: this is where Keanu Reeves comes in. Kiana has made 143 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: many movies over the years. He's been in a lot 144 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: of different franchises. In several of those that are the 145 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: most prominent, he is a highly effective eliminator of the 146 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: bad guys, especially when you think about him in the 147 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: Matrix trilogy, if you think about him in John Wick, 148 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: the fourth of which I believe is still in theaters 149 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: right now we record this, or at least it's coming 150 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: to theaters. I don't know there's another John Wick. He 151 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: kills a lot of people in those movies. Some researchers 152 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: have discovered, in a kind of a roundabout way, a 153 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: new substance, a chemical compound that seems to be extremely 154 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: effective at eliminating fungus, the bad fungus. And it's also 155 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: it also, in the initial testing, appears to not harm 156 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: the plant material in the same way that it harms 157 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: the fungus and potentially could be used as an antifungal 158 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: drug in humans, which would be a huge leap forward. 159 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: It will require a lot more testing to see if 160 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: it actually is going to function, you know, as a drug. 161 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: If you could, if you could create a drug out 162 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: of it, right, So let's jump into this story. The 163 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: recent reporting comes from CNN. There's an article you can 164 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: find titled Newly discovered chemicals are so deadly to fung 165 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: guy that they are named after Keanu Reeves. It's written 166 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: by Taylor Nikki Yoli for CNN again, and it was 167 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: written March third. But most of the writing about this, 168 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: the initial stuff that came out is from around the 169 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: early February, like February second, February sixth, and it looks 170 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: like the actual publication was released on January twentieth of 171 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: twenty three. So let's just I guess we should jump 172 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: into it a little bit, talk about it. This is 173 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: really just an informational session, guys. The only stuff they 174 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: don't want you to know here is the same thing 175 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: we've been harping on. Fungus is a really serious, big 176 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: deal and it's going to get way more of a 177 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: serious deal in the next ten twenty years. That's the 178 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. So here we go. 179 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to read this verbatim. Let's see. I 180 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: guess we can give you the high level stuff. And 181 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: there's a person Sebastian goats a goot ze, he says, 182 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: the goat Sebastian goats. Oh yes. Researcher with the Leibniz 183 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: Institute in Germany. They do natural product research. They also 184 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: look at infection biology and oh yes, oh yes, yes, yes, yes, 185 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,479 Speaker 1: yes and goats has this to say about this new discovery. 186 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: These are lipopeptides. Okay, that's what these things are. So 187 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: there's a lipid Does that indicate there's some kind of 188 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: vatty molecule like a lipidum you know, I don't know null. 189 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: They are lipopeptides. I like words, And that's the fun 190 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: one quote. The lipopeptides kilso efficiently that we named them 191 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: after Keanu Reeves because he too is extremely deadly in 192 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: his roles. We have a crisis in anti infectives. True, 193 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: many human pathogenic fungi are now resistant to antimycotics or 194 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,359 Speaker 1: anti fungals, partly because they are used in large quantities 195 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: in agricultural fields. So think about that. One of the 196 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: main reasons that antibiotics are less effective on humans these days, 197 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: as we've talked about on this show many times, is 198 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: because those products, those medicines are used on a lot 199 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: of the cattle on a lot of the animals, the pigs, 200 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: the chickens that we end up consuming because they're kept 201 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: in such you know, tight quarters, in such large numbers 202 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: that they often get sick, and one of the ways 203 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: to prevent some of that sickness is to dose them 204 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: with those antibiotics talked about this. This is a major problem. 205 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: It's getting better as it's become more well known. There's 206 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: been a bit of a public outcry because well, because 207 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: we're seeing companies now try and move away from that. However, 208 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: in the large factory settings where you've got to pump 209 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: out x amount of beef every day, this is still 210 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: a major issue. Same thing is happening with a lot 211 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: of the mass produced plants that we end up consuming. 212 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: These anti fungal substances have to get sprayed on everything 213 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: just to make sure there's not a huge problem. Again 214 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: with like the grapes that we end up consuming that 215 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: go into our wine, that go into your Kroger and 216 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So it's the same deal. There's also 217 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: a problem with anti fungals in humans because just the 218 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: fungus in general, after you use a certain substance for 219 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: a long enough period of time, it becomes less and 220 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: less effective over time because these are live things. It's 221 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: it's alive, and it changes. It starts figuring out just 222 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: through attrition, how to get around these anti fungals. I 223 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: don't know, guys, Yeah, you said it already been. They're 224 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: called keanu, mayasins k e A, n U, M y 225 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: c I ns these substances, and it's pretty pretty dope stuff. 226 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: You can read all about it if you want. I mean, 227 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: you raise an excellent point there, Matt. Like the idea 228 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: of evolutionary cycles. Right, A short lived organism, like many 229 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: fungal organisms are, has a higher rate of attrition, obviously, 230 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: but it also has a shorter interval between generations, much 231 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: that it can adapt way more quickly than the human body. 232 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I also think it's really cool 233 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: that you could be on the forefront of science and 234 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: decide to name a thing whatever that's sort of neat, right, 235 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: Like I always I always think about that when you 236 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: when you hear some astronomer has found an obscure planet 237 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: or heavenly body and they said we're going to call this, 238 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, Donnie's Place or whatever, or you look at 239 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: the especially when you look towards the end of the 240 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: periodic table when people are saying Prometheum, i'd steadium. Here's 241 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: a person I like Mendelevium. That's why. Yeah, Matt Scovium, 242 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: maybe Matt Fredrixium. Yeah, my god, yes, please, let's not 243 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: do it. Matt's long held dream. Everybody, fellow conspiracy real, 244 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: especially chemist in the crowd. It has been our brother's 245 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: long term dream to have an element in the periodic 246 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: table named after him. I think he got robbed by 247 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: the einsteinium, folks man. I think that was unfair, because 248 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: what has Einstein done? Really? You know what I mean? Yeah, 249 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm the greatest ever. I guess. No, please don't ever 250 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: name anything after me. Forget me, forget me. Okay, so 251 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: let's jump in here really quickly. Just a couple other 252 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: things here, because it's very important for us to remember. 253 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Fungal cells. Put them right in the center of your mind. Okay, 254 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: to the left, you've got plant cells. To the right, 255 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: you've got animal cells. These fungal cells that are in 256 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: the center, they aren't the same as but they are 257 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: very similar to in a lot of ways the animal cells. Now, 258 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: imagine you're trying to develop a drug that only targets 259 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: those fungal cells, but they're really close to those animal cells. 260 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: So often when drugs are being developed as anti fungals, 261 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: they can have serious negative effects on the animal cells, 262 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: which is by the way you and your cells. That's 263 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: why it's really difficult to develop an effective anti fungal 264 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: treatment for a human being or for a pig for 265 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: that matter, or whatever. In the case of these keyonomyacins, 266 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: it appears that they don't cause serious toxic effects to 267 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: the animal cells, which is why this is so very 268 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: vastly important. Trying to think of an equivalent. It's that 269 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: thing of making a discovery that doesn't come around but 270 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: a few you know, every couple of decades you find 271 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: a new substance that's going to be effective against fungi 272 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: in this way. So this is huge. Good on everybody involved. 273 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: Good Keanu, Good on the people who named it, Good 274 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: on the folks. They're making the last of us. And 275 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: that's all I have to say. And now we'll hear 276 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: a word from our response and we're back with more 277 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: strange news. You guys know about mister Bee's I'm saying 278 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: to that theme, Yeah, just based on the reproduction of 279 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: my kids singing it to me. I've actually not really 280 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: watched much of mister Beasts content. I'm familiar does big 281 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: set PC kind of money giveaway things like did I 282 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: think did like a real life version of squid Game 283 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: that then Netflix decided they'd do too, but they sort 284 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: of missed the point and did a really bad job, 285 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: and people froze and got sick and it was a 286 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: real debacle. But yeah, mister beasts YouTube sensation massively popular. 287 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Fellow also has a ghost kitchen chain of restaurants called 288 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: Mister Beast Burger, and now, as it turns out, also 289 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: has chocolate bars called Feastables that you can get at 290 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: various big box retailers, including Walmart. And apparently mister Beast 291 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: didn't take too kindly to the way or the treatment 292 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: of his product line, specifically at Walmart's thought that they 293 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: were a little messy, were being given a short shrift 294 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: in favor of the big boys like the Hershey's of 295 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: the world. So on March third, Mister Beasts who's a 296 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: Christian name is Jimmy Donaldson tweeted at his eighteen point 297 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: eight million followers as such, I need your help next 298 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: time you see feastables in Walmart and soon to be 299 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: new retailers. If you could clean up the presentation and 300 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: make it look better, that would make me very happy. 301 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm building a team to do this routinely. Just need 302 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: help in the short term. Hm, what could go wrong? 303 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: What could go wrong? And originally there was like a 304 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: five thou dollar a reward kind of like you know, 305 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: tied into this, or would be a drawing of folks 306 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: that could prove that they had done this. I'm not 307 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: seeing that detail added. I would not be surprised if, 308 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: given the backlash we're about to talk about, he took 309 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: that away. Um he replaced it with something I think 310 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: that they We'll get into just a little bit. But um, yeah, 311 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of Sechuan Sauce all over again. Really, if 312 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: you think about it, the whole Rick and Morty people 313 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: come in and standing on the counters and McDonald's screaming 314 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: about the Sechuan sauce that that they were out of Um, 315 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: you know, some folks in an attempt to curry favor 316 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: with mister Beast, who is hugely popular on YouTube, and 317 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, just like a mention or you know, a 318 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: repost of some you know up and coming content creators. 319 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 1: Content could be a game changer for them. So a 320 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: lot of folks just tweeting pictures of feastable section in disarray, 321 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: followed by the after shot We're they're all neat and tidy. Um, 322 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, just say hey, mister beast, love each stuff, 323 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: be the help here here here I am um, you know, 324 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: and adding adding mister Beast's handle. But then, you know, 325 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: you start to kind of reality starts to set in 326 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, and you start to think about what 327 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: does this feel like to folks who actually work at 328 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: Walmart and have to, you know, restock shells and all 329 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden dealing with all these kind of Yeah, 330 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him Yahoo's no, no insult intended, but 331 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just a little bit of a 332 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: of a dopey thing to do, in my opinion, coming 333 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: in there and messing with your with your displays. You know, 334 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: it's not really something that you've signed up for for 335 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: your minimum wage, you know, big box store job U. 336 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: The tweet was like one hundred and twelve thousand times, 337 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: and it has gotten an understandably some backlash of people 338 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: saying that this very very wealthy YouTuber is essentially crowdsourcing 339 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: free labor five thousand dollars or no. Um, it's it's 340 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: a little bit odd, I would say. And you have 341 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: folks pointing out this very fact, and you know, in 342 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: addition to the usual kind of well you know, hey, 343 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: I did the thing. Good job me. Thanks mister beast 344 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: for being awesome hashtag team mister beasts, you've got some 345 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: some more satirical let's just say posts. One person struth 346 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Queen on Twitter posted, mister beast just unlocked a new 347 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: form of capitalism. I hate it. Here with some reposts 348 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: of some of the images of folks. Yeah, we're just 349 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: in Walmartin noticed this display. You need some fixing at 350 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: mister beast. Then one of my personal favorites, which is 351 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: posted by at harm harm cart, which I believe is 352 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: an image of somebody in Ukraine who is like duct 353 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: taped to a traffic poll, a traffic signal, and the 354 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: text reads, at mister beast, I caught this man after 355 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: his shoulder brushed a feastable's display and one of your 356 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: chocolates fell to the ground. He is pleading for mercy, 357 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: but I do not believe he is truly sorry. How 358 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: shall I deal with him? Sir? Wow, Uh, that's the 359 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: that's the that's the dream, or like the nightmare. And 360 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: it really makes me think of, you know, the thing 361 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: that's sort of portrayed in the latest Batman movie where 362 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: you've got the Riddler who with this kind of you know, 363 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: gang of kind of Riddler acolytes. He essentially, you know, 364 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: there's obviously a much more low key an Ocuus version 365 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: of this, but he essentially sicks an army of his 366 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: followers on Gotham City, and I just really, I mean, 367 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: obviously this is not mister Bees doing anything of that nature. 368 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm half joking, of course, but it does 369 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: really point to the power of these types of folks, 370 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 1: you know, who can command action among people who just 371 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: want to want to be seen by them, acknowledged by them. 372 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: So kind of creepy, you know, a great look if 373 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: you ask me, I don't know, what do you guys think? Well, 374 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 1: it's it's a weird. I'm just imagining the Walmart that 375 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: is close to me where I live right now, and 376 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: imagining the jobs that exist within that walmart. And I 377 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: don't know the specific details for whoever manages that location, 378 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: but mostly I have seen people working in specific sections 379 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: of the store or at the front of the store 380 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: at like customer service or in you know, the eyewear 381 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: shop or whatever they have at the front there, and 382 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: people who are stocking the store, so like bringing boxes 383 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: out from the back and putting products on the shelves. 384 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure there is a position somewhere in the store 385 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: or it's like something that someone who runs a section 386 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: is supposed to handle, like making the displays look nice, right. 387 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: I just don't think I've seen that in action anytime 388 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: I've visited that store. And I wonder how much of 389 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: a priority that is specifically for a Walmart, because I 390 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: know at other store I have seen that as like 391 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: a not a position, as like this is what you 392 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: do as your job is what you get paid for. 393 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: But it's a it's a definite responsibility for people who 394 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: are working within the store. Does that make sense? It 395 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: does make sense. And also like no no shade on 396 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: any of these people. But I mean, these stores are 397 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: massive and then they're oftentimes understaffed, and they kind of 398 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 1: exist in a constant state of disarray, you know what 399 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean. And it's it's just the nature of it. 400 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, people are always moving things around, putting things 401 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: in the wrong place, and it's just a constant battle 402 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: to even like have things be relatively presentable. And there 403 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: are probably priorities beyond that. I don't think of Walmart 404 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: as like the store of like shiny displays per se. 405 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: So it's just odd to have these kind of invading forces, 406 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, doing this, and and the Internet today guys 407 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: who am always referencing who I love. They pointed out that, 408 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's a strong possibility that some of these 409 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: folks might have actually been the ones messing them up 410 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: in the first place, just so they have something to 411 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: show for a before and after pick. Yeah, so you 412 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: you could argue that this is like, what is it 413 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: the bed you always reference in the Cobra problem, where 414 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: you like, unleash a thing to fix a problem, but 415 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: it actually becomes the problem itself. Yeah, there's a lot 416 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: to unpack here, because we are looking at we are 417 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: looking at a phenomenon that legislation doesn't really exist for 418 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: at least not this iteration of it. Back in the 419 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: days of old, there were very explicit rules about who 420 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: could or could not martial forces together toward a cause. 421 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: That's one of the reasons the right to assembly is 422 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: super big in the United States as it stands today. 423 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: So the idea of the cobra problem, for quick recap, 424 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: is that if you incentivize people to do a thing, 425 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: you may find yourself in a situation where people are 426 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: over incentivized, as this occurs in India. Back in the day, 427 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: they had a lot of cobras and say they said, 428 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: we're going to pay people to kill these cobras, right, 429 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: We'll make things safer for everyone. But when people realize 430 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: they could get paid to kill cobras, they started growing 431 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: and raising cobras and they're turning them in for the bounty. 432 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: And the idea here is a bit further complicated because 433 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: now we are adding in we are all respect to you, 434 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: mister beasts. We are adding in the dopamine casino of 435 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: social media, which means that now people don't have to 436 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: be paid, they simply have to be approved of by 437 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: their community. So this could happen in any number of ways. 438 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: This is also I don't know. I don't know about you, Noel, 439 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: Matt doc I don't have a problem with mister beast. 440 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: I think feastables is actually a really good improvement on 441 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: the name lunch. It was right there. It was a 442 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: good job. You know, it's a good martin. One of 443 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: the flavors of the of the Feastable's chocolate bars though, 444 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: is just for the record, these nuts so also hilarious. 445 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: It continues to be. It does continue to be. I 446 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: will drop a these nuts joke myself from time to time. 447 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: But it stinks if you're in a Walmart. You know, 448 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: the Walton family has such an outsized influence on the 449 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: US in so many ways. They're killing small businesses, that's true. 450 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: They're also accelerating inequality in this country and very serious 451 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: to the degree of unsustainability. But imagine to your earlier pointment, 452 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: imagine you're working at this section and to your point, nol, 453 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: maybe it's a chaotic place already. And now on top 454 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: of all of this, you got to try to deal 455 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: with someone who has been sent by a YouTuber that 456 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: you they have never met. You're not getting any kind 457 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: of compensation or putting up with that, you know, it's 458 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: it's tough. And again, Jimmy, mister beast Donaldson not a 459 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: bad YouTuber like your child said. No, this is very 460 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 1: entertaining content. I mean, do we know do we know 461 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: what the latest scoop is? Now? Do we know how 462 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: people are responding the relatively ongoing story? I did you 463 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: know there were some some details, you know how Twitter. 464 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm not good at Twitter, so things seem to get 465 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: covered up, like if the posts aren't hind or whatever. 466 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: The top response from mister beast now says, to show 467 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: how grateful I am to everyone that helped Tidy only 468 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: spells it titty. Actually t I D d y, which 469 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: is funny. Made me giggle things up. I'm going to 470 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: donate a one hundred thousand dollars to charity. What charity 471 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: should I donate? To appreciate you all? But like, there 472 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 1: were some other tweets that apparently he deleted, one of 473 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: which kind of almost suggested that the people sabotage other 474 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: competing chocolate displays like Hershey, which isn't good because even 475 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: the you know, with this kind of thing been to 476 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: your points, you know, marshaling folks, the very indication that 477 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: you're you're perceived kind of Internet messiah wants you to 478 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: do a crime. I mean there are people that are 479 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: going to run with that. Yeah, in a very real way. 480 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: So will this. You know again, it's a kind of 481 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: a goofy internet, pranky guy whatever. But what this points 482 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: to is something larger, and we've seen it with things 483 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: like the insurrection you know at the state capital and 484 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: how this level of unchecked internet power that is to 485 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: your point, Bin, I completely agree unregulatable, maybe not unregulatable, 486 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: but unregulated. But I don't know how you do it. 487 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: You know, there were going to start putting limits on 488 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: how many people can follow somebody online because they're they're 489 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: too too powerful. You can't really put that genie back 490 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: on the bottle at this point. It's kind of impossible. 491 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: Let me get old man for a second. Guys, go 492 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: back to some of my Scout leader taught me when 493 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: I was a little boy. I know that guy, all right, 494 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: when you go out in the wilderness or anywhere in 495 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: the world, you leave it as good or better than 496 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: you found it every time. If we all take on 497 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: this responsibility, every one of us, each individual, then every 498 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: time we walk into that Walmart is going to look 499 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: exactly like it did when it got set up. In 500 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: that display of feastables or Dove chocolates, whatever they are, 501 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna look pristine and gorgeous. Even if you take 502 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: ten of them, you can leave it just like you 503 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: found it. So you're saying we should just crowdsource, you know, 504 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: tidying up all walmarts help you ourselves. It's the boy 505 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: Scout way. Well it happens, is something like that happens 506 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: in Japan? I know we got to move on. But 507 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, you don't find a lot of public trash 508 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: cans in that country because people know you shouldn't litter, 509 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: and they don't need to have some sort of intermediary 510 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: between personal responsibility and making you know, a public space 511 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: look like a house. There's a there's a tragedy of 512 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: the commons at work, and it's been so for society 513 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: for a long long time. If I don't know, maybe 514 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: we should hear from our fellow listeners here. If you 515 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: have advice or insight from you know, the front lines, 516 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: from your own philosophical experiences, what would you say is 517 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: the best way to address this problem? Because you're right, 518 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you even if you hate billionaire dynasties 519 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: like the Waltons or whatever, if you are screwing stuff 520 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: up for the person who has to work there and 521 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: clean it up, know that you are not in any 522 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: way touching the Walton family. You're just making life harder 523 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: for someone just like you. And that's kind of I 524 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: don't know, I think it could you could exercise a 525 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: little more insight. We all could. Yeah, I mean, I 526 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: completely agree, and I think all three of us are 527 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: of the leave that as as good or better than 528 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: you found him. Mentality. Uh, no litterbugs here in this squad, 529 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Um, But I just wanted to add 530 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: one last whole thing. Then we'll definitely move on. One 531 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: of my favorite tweets as well, besides the guy taped 532 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: to the telephone pole, one was from web website idiot, 533 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: who says at mister beast, I will continue destroying your 534 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: chocolate displays until you pay me one hundred thousand dollars. 535 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: So that the script did a little reverse blackmail, or 536 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: maybe not reverse, just regular blackmail, but kind of kind 537 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: of doubt that payday is coming anytime. Sim we're gonna 538 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: take a break, we're gonna hear a word from our sponsor, 539 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: who maybe may well be mister Beast, mister beastables, and 540 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: then we'll be back with more strange news. And we 541 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: have returned folks. Our last story for or today pertains 542 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: to something that a lot of a lot of people 543 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: in the US and abroad don't pay much attention to 544 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: unless you work at a port authority, you are lucky 545 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: enough to have a train that doesn't get derailed rolling 546 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: through your town. We're going to talk about I don't 547 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: want to quite call it piracy, but we're going to 548 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: talk about some bootleggers, and not the kind that you 549 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: would see back in the days Lincoln CDs or DVDs 550 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: on your local public transitor street corner. So everybody remembers Russia, right, 551 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: it's a country. It's kind of controversial part of it. Yeah, 552 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: they're waging this war and Ukraine the guy in charge, 553 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: Lad Putin sort of a bag. This guy, this frigging guy, 554 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: as we would say on the internet, is waging a 555 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: war that is rocking the Nited Nations, that is rocking 556 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: European ukraying in particular. A lot of innocent people are dying. 557 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: And the issue with this country is that to support 558 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: its war, it relies on oil exports. So your favorite 559 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: suits over in NATO and over in the United Nations, 560 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: and I'm sure at transnational banking institutions across the planet 561 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: said let's cut it off at the pass. If war 562 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: mongers need oil money to finance their aggression, then let's 563 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: not allow them to sell oil. I don't know about 564 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: you all, but I've never been at some point in 565 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: my various lives where I could say I'm not going 566 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: to allow someone to sell the thing. Can you imagine that, 567 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: Like we can boycott stuff by not buying it, But 568 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: can you imagine being at some point in your life 569 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: where you say, I'm not going to allow you to 570 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: sell a thing. No, not yet, things out I don't don't. 571 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: I can't imagine hav any that much cloud. It's a 572 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: lot of cloud. It's a dangerous amount of cloud. But 573 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: they did it because they can. And everybody in western 574 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: media saw that. In ninety something percent said, oh, hunky dory, 575 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: surely a war will end soon because we have cut 576 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: off the funding. But here's what's happening now, and it 577 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: deserves more attention. As we record today, there is a 578 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: growing fleet, hundreds and hundreds of tankers moving this oil 579 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: across the planet, and no one is copying to the responsibility. 580 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: No one is saying, oh, yeah, these are my takers, 581 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: Like you guys have seen everybody I think has seen 582 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: cargo containers. Right, You've probably seen them on a train. 583 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: Unless you live near a big body of water, you 584 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: might have seen them on a ship. We know what 585 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about. These things are huge. The vessels that 586 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: carry them are huge. The same kind of enormous ships, 587 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: or very similar enormous ships that carry oil products across 588 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 1: the world are moving today and it's it's very scooby 589 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: doo to me, like, how could you disguise a ship 590 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: that big? I want to shout out a couple of 591 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: fantastic journalists authors here, Julia Horowitz, whose work we have 592 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: mentioned on previous episodes or strange news segments of stuff 593 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know. She has this great 594 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 1: article on CNN called A mysterious fleet is helping Russia 595 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: ship oil around the world. And wait for it, Matt 596 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: Noell doc us listening at home, it's growing. Not only 597 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: can no one figure out who is moving this oil 598 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 1: for the Russians, they only know that there are more 599 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: and more ships like every month. Right now, it's roughly 600 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: six hundred vessels and just for perspective, that's ten percent 601 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: of the number of large tankers across the world. That 602 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: is fascinating. I have never thought of oil as being 603 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: I thought it was all it was all locked down, 604 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: you know. I just figured like that was one of 605 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: those industries that everyone's getting it is already doing so 606 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: very much above board, you know, and they've got it 607 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: all locked down because of what we've talked about with 608 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: oil industry of it is being one of those legacy industries. 609 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: So the idea of bootlegging oil is fascinating to me. 610 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: Are they actually they're pulling it out of the ground 611 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: in an illegal operation or is it just kind of 612 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: black market you know, maybe it's stolen or something. What's 613 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: the deal? My understanding is that it's it's oil that 614 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: Russia would be producing and trading legally, but because of 615 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: the invasion in the sanctions, they can no longer trade it. 616 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: So they've got these unknown buyers coming in buying up 617 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: the oil tankers or these huge ships, adding them to 618 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: this shadow fleet, and then those ships that aren't on 619 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: the books anywhere get loaded up with the oil that 620 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: would normally be shipped and they just send it. You know, 621 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: they have to go. They have to put a lot 622 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: more oil on these ships than they normally would, because 623 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: instead of taking them to another country that's closer to Russia, 624 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 1: like Finland, they got to go on a big, long 625 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: roundabout trip to a different place, right to drop that 626 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: oil off. That's at least understanding. Yeah, you nailed it, Matt. 627 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 1: Maritime law, I know it about as well as Charlie 628 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: Day knows bird law, which is to say, I don't 629 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: have a degree, but I have some opinions, and and 630 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: it's it's quite easy. Actually, it's dangerously easy for a 631 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: large ship to have to raise a different flag, to 632 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: turn off it's location, and to roll through just sort 633 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: of a ghost ship, a ship in the nights, as 634 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: it were. If you, for instance, if you are selling 635 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: to China or India, you can take a ship have 636 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: a different nationality as your port of call or your 637 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: home port, and then you can just change the flag 638 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: halfway through. One of the immediate questions if you're trying 639 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: to work in law and order deep ocean, wait, what 640 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 1: would be a good what would be a good theme 641 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: like sound cue for law and order maritime? Would it 642 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: be like a sea shanty? There we go? Yeah right, yes, 643 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: uh see, this is why we hang out. So in 644 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: this law and order maritime or deep ocean. What you 645 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: would find is it's quite difficult to enforce this stuff. 646 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: And if you were trying to enforce it, then you 647 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: would think, maybe we can follow the money, maybe we 648 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: can look at the insurers. But the insurers don't have 649 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: a ton of power here. The states that would you say, oh, 650 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: we allowed these ships to fly under our flag, they 651 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: don't have a ton of power. They certainly don't want 652 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: to be accountable for this. And we have to remember 653 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 1: that when you're talking tankers, the companies are more powerful 654 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: than the countries, which is super weird in my opinion, 655 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: but it's true, Soul. You could contract a vessel as 656 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: a private transnational entity and exon a Chevron a British 657 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: Petroleum dare I say an a Ramco, And once this 658 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: stuff gets transferred from vessel to vessel, it's very easy 659 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: to lose stuff in the cracks. It's weird to be 660 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: because going back to our earlier conversations we're talking about 661 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 1: witness protection. It's easier to disappear as a tanker vessel 662 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: full of oil than it is to disappear as an 663 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: individual human being in the United States. Isn't that weird. Yes, 664 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: it's easier. Well, is that sort of like have you 665 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: guys seen the season of the Wire about shipping and 666 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: receiving Season two? Season two? That's the one, and so 667 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: there's a whole deal where they like lose shipping containers 668 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: like in the system because the system is kind of antiquated, 669 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, and so they're able to kind of disappear 670 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: these cargo containers in order to you know, steal from them. 671 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's a similar deal where maybe like 672 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 1: these systems in place that track these things are maybe 673 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 1: in need of some upgrades one hundred percent, But is 674 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: it to the benefit of the money to enact those 675 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: upgrades to implement them. That's a really good point then. 676 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I'm thinking right now, what's 677 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: happening is it's probably not China. China's big enough to 678 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: not need proxies, right, It's probably not the usual suspects 679 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: are on North Korea, Venezuela and so on. I think 680 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: it's private business is doing this, and I think they're 681 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: forming shell companies in relatively open market kind of pro 682 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: business places. Maybe it's your Debise, maybe it's your Hong 683 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: Kong's I think they're using loopholes to get around sanctions. 684 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: Like Doc pointed out when she said that no one 685 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: dying at Disney kind of depends on how you how 686 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: you define pronounced dead. This gets me because you know, 687 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: we've seen the ocean. The ocean's huge. I think no 688 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: one has seen the entire pity of the ocean. I 689 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,439 Speaker 1: guess it's easy to lose six hundred tankers, but also 690 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: that's kind of dangerous. If you turn off your GPS, 691 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: you're positioning to do some like sail by night stuff 692 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: to move oil, are you going to hit another boat? Yeah, 693 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: it's like it's like flying a plane without air traffic control. 694 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,240 Speaker 1: You know, something wonky that's happening with the story right now. Guys, 695 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: there's some nonprofits working to make estimates on the number 696 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: of these unknown buyers and these shadow ships going into 697 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 1: shadow fleets right and they're trying to keep track of it, 698 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: but a lot of it. There's a lot of unknowns there, 699 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: and there's no way to prove these individual ships with 700 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,720 Speaker 1: unknown buyers are in fact going to this shadow fleet 701 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: that's moving Russian oil. So I do wonder if this 702 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: is something that's being taken advantage of by everyone, including 703 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: the US, to maybe even find a way to backdoor 704 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 1: buy some Russian oil put it in reserves, because we 705 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: of the US surely knows strategically that as the global 706 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: conflict continues to rise between the US, China, Russia and 707 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: all these major players, we're gonna need a ton of oil. 708 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: I just think it's a huge deal. If we can 709 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: get some of Russia's oil, it would be to our 710 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: advantage as a country, the US. Yeah, and typically, you know, 711 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: we only have scruples in so far as like pr optics. 712 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, I would not be surprised at all if 713 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: if on the surface, no, no blockading Russian oil. But no, actually, guys, 714 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: that's cool. It's block scading with the right hand and 715 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: we got our left hand behind our back, you know, 716 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: doing the little coming air sign. Uh. Yeah. This is 717 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: a shadow industry, and it's an industry that's been growing 718 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: for a while. I'm really happy to have like three 719 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: fillings a year. But I'm impressed that CNN is talking 720 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: about it because it's been happening through the entirety of 721 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: Venezuelan oil sanctions, through the entirety of Iranian oil sanctions. 722 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: The oil is still moving it's still occurring. And it's 723 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: very convenient to your point about signaling stuff to the public. 724 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: It's very convenient to high road and say, oh, we're 725 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: stopping all this, you know what I mean, it's just 726 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: USA all day baby. But is that the reality or 727 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: is there some stuff they don't want you to know? 728 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: There very much? Is it's on the high seas? I 729 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: want to check in with you guys, everybody listening. This 730 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: does feel like an episode. This does feel like something 731 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: we dive into. I don't know if that's appropriate at 732 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: this point, but I'm just massively perplexed by this because, Okay, 733 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 1: if you're sending the usual through the usual channels, right, 734 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: and you're Russia, then you get slapped with sanctions, which 735 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: means those channels are blocked off. Is it just easier 736 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: than we assumed to go find someone else, you know, 737 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: like some decade aristocrat and Monaco with gambling debts and 738 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: then say, hey, you still control a couple of tankers, 739 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: will pay off your baccarat or whatever? Am I even 740 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,800 Speaker 1: pronouncing that right? I don't know what bats. None of 741 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: us have ever played backarat. I imagine I like Burt back, Yeah, 742 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: that's probably who I'm thinking of Burt Backarat, the creator 743 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: of Backarat. So the tanker thing is already a huge issue. 744 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: You know, they bleed very dangerous substances into the open ocean. 745 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,280 Speaker 1: They also, you know, whenever there's a wreck, there's a catastrophe. 746 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: But now what we're seeing is an active shadow fleet 747 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: that is growing with state support to bypass these sanctions. 748 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: And to your point, Matt, an excellent point, we have 749 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: to ask ourselves whether US based corporations are playing the 750 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 1: game as well. I'm telling you Black Monday murders, yeah, 751 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: or any other country that would publicly say bad Russia. 752 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: But nine, we need some oil. So there we have it. Folks, 753 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: We're going to call it a day for now. We 754 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this. Let us know your interactions with 755 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 1: mister Beast, let us know your interactions with Keanu Reeves 756 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: and your thoughts about fungal infections and the future of fungus. Actually, 757 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: you know what give us this one? Do you consider 758 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: fungus intelligent? If so, why would love to hear your 759 00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 1: thoughts on a frames comments regarding circle, the hierarchy of 760 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 1: predator prey and life on this planet. And then you know, 761 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: if you happen to be on a shadow tanker carrying 762 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: some stuff for the Russians and you feel comfortable reaching 763 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: out to us. We'd love to hear from you. Yes, 764 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: that was my cat. You know what I heard? D 765 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: D D d D. That's what I put What song 766 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: is that? That's a song? I don't know. That's what 767 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: I heard in my head. I think that's yeah. Oh yeah, 768 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: that's it. That's it, that's it. There's also the md 769 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: pree song side Oh yeah, yeah, another good cats out. 770 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: I actually saw a meme where somebody took Nelson from 771 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: The Simpsons going and turned it into that m Ad 772 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,399 Speaker 1: three song and it was kind of great. But there 773 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: we go. So so reach out with your input, folks. 774 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: We cannot wait to hear from you. You are why 775 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: this show exists. We try to be easy to find online. 776 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: Let's see, Matt Noll did a pretty awesome video recently 777 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 1: on Instagram about drugs and precedent. You can also find 778 00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,799 Speaker 1: us on TikTok. You can find us on YouTube where 779 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: we're putting out all kinds of stuff all the time. 780 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: And what do people do if they don't sit the 781 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 1: social meats? You got a social media rehab get on 782 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,479 Speaker 1: the social med wagon, or you know, you can also 783 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: just find us some old fashioned ways. You can give 784 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 1: us a call one eight three three S T W 785 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 1: I T K yes. When you call in, give yourself 786 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: a nickname. Let us know if you can use your 787 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,839 Speaker 1: message and name on the air, and your voice. Your 788 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 1: voice is important and we want to put it on 789 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: the air. If you don't want us to do that, 790 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: let us know. You've got three minutes say whatever you'd like. 791 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 1: If you've got more to say, or links or something 792 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,319 Speaker 1: like that, why not instead send us a good old 793 00:50:42,360 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: fashioned email. We are conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. Stuff 794 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: they don't want you to know is a production of iHeartRadio. 795 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 796 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,520 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.