1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I Am all in Again. 2 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: I Am all in Again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast one 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: eleven productions, iHeartRadio Media, iHeart Podcast seen Season four, episode 5 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: the thirteen nag Hamadi is where they found the Gnostic Gospel. 6 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: Air date February ten, two thousand and three. Synopsis. Jess 7 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: returns with the bad attitude throws Leek completely off, while 8 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: Lizzard introduces her new boyfriend tj Emily and Richard attended 9 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: charity event with Jason Lorelei. Unbeknownst to them they are 10 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: already dating. Then Jess finally confesses his true feelings to Rory. 11 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: Directed by Chris Long, written by Amy Sherman Palladino. That 12 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: it's the dream combination right there. We are joined by 13 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: a very special guest, and we have Crazy Carry with 14 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: us herself. Jill Brennan Lincoln. How you doing, Jill? 15 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: I'm doing great? How are you. 16 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: Doing all right? You played Crazy Carry Duncan, Liz's best friend. 17 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Jill Brennan Lincoln is back. You had we had you 18 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: on two thousand and three. In this time, we're going 19 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: to recap her first episode as Crazy care. Here, Here 20 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: we go, Here we go, Okay. Laurel and Rory wake 21 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: up to a cold house because of a broken window. 22 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: She already called Luke to fix it. Lane is sleeping 23 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: on the couch and still hasn't talked to her mommy. 24 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: It's very tense. Emily calls and can't fill a table 25 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: at a fundraiser, so she panics and tells Lorelei to 26 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: bring people. It's her reputation at stake. She's dying. Lorelei 27 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: and Rory attend the charity benefit. Emily asked Jason to 28 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: sit with Laura I and pretend they are together. Yuck, yuck, yuck, 29 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: and even joke about making out in the coat room, 30 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: which they try to do. Floyd, Jason's dad, runs into 31 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: Jason at this benefit, and it's a very cold exchange, 32 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: like they are just sort of loose acquaintances. Emily and 33 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: Richard think Floyd is up to something. They need to strategize, 34 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: all right, Jill. This was a bit of comic relief 35 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: as Jason and Laura I pretend they are together and 36 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: run off to the coat room. As Jason goes along 37 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: with the plan, Does this change your mind about him? 38 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: In a positive way. No, Please expand on your answer, Jill. 39 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: Uh No, he's he's you know, everybody. I mean, it's 40 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 2: hard when you're when everybody's rooting for the two of you. 41 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: So there was no way that he was going to, 42 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: you know, be liked. And I you know, he was 43 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: kind of slimy too. 44 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is that quality. I'll agree with you. There 45 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: there is that quality. But I have fun with these two. 46 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: It's it's fun watching these two, Yeah, it is. I 47 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: do enjoy it. I know it's going to be witty, banter. 48 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: I know he's going to he's going to give as 49 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: good as he gets, and it's going to be something 50 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: zany and unexpected. And what I didn't expect and what 51 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: I forgot about is this relationship with his own dad. 52 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: And isn't that just so It makes me feel for 53 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, so so tragic. 54 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: It is tragic that. 55 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: Your dad, you and your dad are so distant. Yeah, 56 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: and it's just so formal and stuffy and pretentious and 57 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: stupid and what a waste of a relationship. I want 58 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: to know more about that relationship. It's intriguing to me. 59 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: I really really want to know more about it. But anyway, 60 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: it is what it is. What do you think about Emily? 61 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Emily so freaked out in your life? 62 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: She was so funny, She was so great, and you know, 63 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: I love ed Herman. You know, he's always you know 64 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: what's so funny is I actually did a show on 65 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: Broadway with him and he was so like the smartest 66 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 2: guy in the room, right, like the smartest. He was 67 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 2: just hysterical in the show. And so to see him 68 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: be kind of, you know, always just trying to keep 69 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: her happy, I love it. Yeah, she was really on 70 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: fire about this for sure. 71 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: Yeah that's her. That's her reputation at stake. Yeah, absolutely 72 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: something she'll fight for more than anything. 73 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: And she was hysterical at that table, like everybody had 74 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: to move around and to try to make it look 75 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 2: more full, and you know, and she doesn't even care. 76 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: She would have taken somebody off the street to make 77 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: sure that table was full for her her charity event recruiting. 78 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: And those those two girls that were sitting there, she. 79 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: Just they just were like, you know, dirt. 80 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: Contributing nothing, act like you're people please. Yeah, it was 81 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: really funny. All right, Jess is back in town, so 82 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: is Liz. Liz this. This draws Luke into the fold 83 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: here a little bit, right, We're not we're not used 84 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: to seeing Luke in so much of an episode, but 85 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: he's in. He's in a lot of this. Jess is 86 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: still in town trying to get his car fixed by Gypsy. Yeah, 87 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: he's given her the business, so he's roaming around, accidentally 88 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: runs into Rory. Just about everywhere Rory goes, there's Jess. 89 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: He's in the library, He's at Western's, he's here, he's there. Yeah, 90 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: he runs away each time, accidentally running Yeah, in tim 91 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: all of the place. And then Liz meets up with 92 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: her friend you Carrie, Jill, you supposedly made out with 93 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: Luke under the bleaches in high school, and she hits 94 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: on him and calls calls him, butch Liz brought her 95 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: earrings to be sold at the diner, and Luke does 96 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: not like that idea. What is Luke? Why does Luke 97 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: not like that? 98 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: Because he thinks that, Remember he thinks the diner is 99 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: for food. And I think also Liz has these like well, 100 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: it was so fun to rewatch the episode. I think 101 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: that she apparently has these grandiose ideas of like trying 102 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: new things and then falls apart when they don't work. 103 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: So I think Luke is probably already in the midst 104 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: with several problems with Jesse. The last thing he needs 105 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: is Liz falling apart over her earrings not being bought 106 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: in the diner. 107 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: So maybe he's preventing also her putting down her anchor 108 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: in Stars Hollow. Oh, I would think, yeah, he doesn't 109 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: want her there right. 110 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: Taking his food? 111 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: Everything right, right, right, right? But this book. 112 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: Danes I forgot Butch Janes was that? Why did you 113 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: change your name? That's my fun like question. I love 114 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: Amy and Dan, they're so amazing, But we called you 115 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: Butch Danes all through high school and we call you 116 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 2: that at the reunion too. Well, maybe it's just a nickname, right, Yeah, 117 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: maybe that was like a really hot person or something, 118 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: and the girls came up with Butch Danes, that's who 119 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: you're going to be. But yeah, you deny the whole 120 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: under the bleachers moment and all. 121 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: Of that, right, I mean that's the question, did it 122 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: or didn't happen? Did it happen or not? 123 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: Oh it happened or died it happen? You're just completely 124 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: ashamed by it? 125 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Laurel, I means Liz, finally thinking it's me in 126 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: the truck when it's Liz in the truck. Yeah, and 127 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: she mistakes Laura I for his wife Nicole. Liz talks 128 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: highly about Luke, calls him her hero. She's thinking of 129 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: moving back to Stars Hollow, And then after Luke and 130 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: just me TJ, Jess gets into a fight with Luke 131 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: and tells him the exact opposite. He doesn't need to 132 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: fix everything. Luke is visibly hurt from what he said. 133 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: Well that Jess. He's a little pisser, isn't he. Yeah, 134 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: He's really not a nice kid, is he. 135 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: I think he has a few he has a few 136 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: things to overcome. 137 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: He is a couple of things. Yeah, boy, because that 138 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: was a That was a deadly deadly scene. 139 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was for Luke. 140 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: It was like wow, But I thought a very funny scene. 141 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 2: It was really great scene. I loved it and I 142 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: was one of the I love that scene in that episode. 143 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that The great writing just comes forefront? And I'm 144 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: watching that scene. I forgot got about that scene and 145 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: I don't like watching myself. I think a lot of 146 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: actors do not. They just cringe when they see themselves. 147 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: But I did not cringe. I thought, Man, I felt 148 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: really lucky that I got to do that dialogue, that 149 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: I got to be in that scene and say those 150 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: words because I knew exactly what to do with them, 151 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 152 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: No, they were just terrific writers. And the characters they 153 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: brought on there were just always whether they were a 154 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: cameo or they were the leads, they were always detailed. 155 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: They always were there for a purpose. They were always 156 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: had this thing, this hook that everyone could get into 157 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: and figure out the character they were really and that 158 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: was a great scene. And people really cared about Jesse 159 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: and they really cared about Luke, and they cared about 160 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: that relationship. Right, So that's good writing. Hard to do 161 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 2: that in a short period of time on TV. 162 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: Right. My manager last night and I said, do I 163 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: have an acting reel because this one should be on it? 164 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: And I gave him the scene it should be. 165 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: It's a very good thing. 166 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I said, put this on there because this is a 167 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: that is a great scene. 168 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: You were great in that scene. 169 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: Milo was great in that scene. I mean it's like 170 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: it's like but it's the writing. It's like you can't 171 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: everything came together in that scene. The lighting, the editing, 172 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: the acting, the writing, most of all beautiful, just beautiful. 173 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: D you know, Before I started my scene, Kathleen, who 174 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: was playing Liz, came up to me, right and she 175 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: was like, Jill, I just I need you to know 176 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: some they talk fast here. They talk really fast. You've 177 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 2: got to talk fast. And I loved it. I remember thinking, 178 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: oh wow, And I remember looking back on her, I 179 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: remembering her saying that, and it was really it was 180 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: really Gilmore Girls and West Wing that moved this quick. Right. 181 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: But one of the things I always struck me when 182 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 2: I watched the show or come shoot is how many 183 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: people actually came from theater that were used to that 184 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: kind of pace, and then how many people were actually 185 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: from film. And I mean I ended up, you know, 186 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: hanging out with Kathleen a little bit after this. I 187 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 2: loved her, but she really, if I'm not mistaken remembering 188 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: looking at her career, she really came from more film. 189 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: So I remember just thinking like, you're going to get 190 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: on this train and it's going to go and you're 191 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: gonna have to be ready. And that's really what I 192 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: always loved about coming on this set, was I had 193 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: worked on Mani sets, and I didn't feel like people 194 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: when they showed up for Gilmore Girls were ready to work, 195 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 196 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: Like they were there was no messing around with the actors. 197 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: Were ready to do their job. And I'd never seen 198 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: a line supervisor work harder than Gilmore Girls. Yeah, and 199 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: West Wing in terms of like getting the lines right, 200 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: making sure the contact, the context to what was going 201 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: on was happening. It was. It was a great show. 202 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: They were great writers. And you were in that scene. 203 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: Well thanks, Yeah, very powerful scene, very powerful storytelling. All right, 204 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: Luke comes over to laurel Ize to fix her window. Yeah, 205 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: but he's drunk, I. 206 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: Know, That's what was like and funny drunk. 207 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: He's drunk and he cuts himself and events about what 208 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: Jess said to him. Yeah, but he's a fixer and 209 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: that nobody wants him around fixing to mind my own business. 210 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 1: Laurel I comfort Zone goes to Jess, gives him the 211 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: business for what he said to Luke, And I've never 212 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: liked Laurel I more. You know, that's what you do. 213 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: You stand up for your your friends, right, you stand 214 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: up for your man, You stand up for your friends. 215 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: All right, now we're at the Firelight Festival. Liz apologizes 216 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: about Jess and thanks him Luke that is, for everything 217 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: he did. Luke talks to TJ and says everything's okay, 218 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: and then the famous line comes. It's like you think, 219 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: you think Luke was being a little a little judgie 220 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: with TJ and a little condescending and dismissive. And then 221 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: and then t J gets his revenge with one line, you're. 222 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: H I love that. God was a great scene too, 223 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: that was great. 224 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: That's hysterical. And then Luke gives Lorelei a pair of 225 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: earrings that Liz made, the turquoise one, and it was 226 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: just like it was kind of like a half friendship 227 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: thing and a sort of half romantic vibe, you know, 228 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like they they walked 229 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: that line the right. The writing walks the line really 230 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: really well with that kind of thing. All right, So 231 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: Rory and just see each other at the food cart 232 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: and she runs away and this is this is actually 233 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: really funny. I get to leave first. This is my talent. 234 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: She gets. She's tired of this guy taken off every 235 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: time they see each other, so now she wants to 236 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: be the one to leave first, and she demands an 237 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: explanation and she hasn't seen him in a while, and 238 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: you left me and why are you here? And then 239 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: when he drops the love bomb on her, it's like whoa. 240 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 241 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: She just stands there stunned and said, all right, So 242 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: all right, here's some here's some thoughts starters. We get 243 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: two opposite takes on Luke's character. Jess thinks Luke's fixing 244 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: things is a negative trait, where Liz sees him as 245 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: a hero for doing that. There is so much depth 246 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: to Luke in this episode. What are your thoughts on 247 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: this particular family dynamic? 248 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: You know, I thought that, I thought again, I think 249 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: it's rich writing. I thought this whole episode really showed 250 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: that the brother and the father that Luke was, you know, 251 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: the domestic side that Luke was becoming by taking care 252 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: of his family. And I think it deepened, which is 253 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: good writing always. It deepened not only the audience caring 254 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: more for him, but also lore Lies seeing that, and 255 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: I thought it was really really needed. But even the 256 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: scene where he really lets just have it, I thought 257 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: that that that's what a father would do, so it 258 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: really he's stepping in he always steps in begrudgingly. That's 259 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: what was such a good character and you did such 260 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: a great job. But he's stepping in fuller in this episode, 261 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: I feel like, really stepping up. And Ed loved getting 262 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: to know more about him through Liz, your sister, and 263 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 2: how how codependent she's been on you, and it just 264 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: was we got to know a lot about Luke in 265 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: this episode. I thought, all right, just. 266 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Isn't terribly likable in this episode. But then he drops 267 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: that I love you on Rory at the end and 268 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: just leaves. How did that make you feel? 269 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think one of the streams that 270 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: the scenes that struck me was when Liz was talking 271 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: to Lorlai, and that's another great acting choice by her 272 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: and also by the writing was Lorlai didn't throw Jess 273 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: under it. She didn't know that she was Rory's mother, 274 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: you know, she didn't understand that relationship. And so just 275 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: that idea that Laura Lai is upset that somebody's hurting 276 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: her daughter that way, but she never really throws him 277 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: under the bus. She finds a way to stay in 278 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: a middle ground by still supporting her daughter and not 279 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 2: trashing this young man. And I think I felt sorry 280 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: for him. I mean, you know, I've seen enough movies 281 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: and seen enough plays and that you really look at 282 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: him and you think, oh, this kid has really had 283 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: a rough time. What's his story? Why does he keep 284 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: making this choice? It's not helping him? And then I 285 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: think You're the only one who could really penetrate your 286 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: character in talking to him directly about it. So it 287 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: was a pretty deep episode in that regard. 288 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was. It really struck a chord. I 289 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: think a lot of people go through this in their families. 290 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of lizes in families. There's 291 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: justice in families. 292 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: Yep. 293 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people go through this kind 294 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: of stuff. Very relatable, very deep, very impactful. So what 295 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: do I remember about getting a script like this? Emotional scenes, 296 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: character development? You know, I've lived all this stuff. If 297 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to interview myself here, I've lived every bit 298 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: of this. I've been Jess. I had a Liz in 299 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: my life. I know about this stuff. I lived it, 300 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: I grew up with it. I was it. So there 301 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: was no real research that I had to do. I 302 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: didn't have to ask anybody any questions. It just I 303 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: knew it. This is familiar territory for me. 304 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: But that's what's so great about what we do when 305 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: we do it, when we're storytellers, as you use what 306 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: you have and the bad that has happened to you, 307 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 2: it turns into good when you could use it to 308 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: tell a story to impact other people. So I think 309 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: that's really cool. We're getting deep. 310 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it really is. I mean, look it. 311 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: It sort of shifts the focus away from Lorelei and 312 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: her relationship with with with her family, you know, Richard Emley, 313 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: and it really focuses in on Luke and his family. 314 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: So we're getting we're getting you know, we're getting a 315 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: little time to delve into Luke's background. Have you ever 316 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: known Jill this type of guy that Luke is portraying. 317 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: Yes, of course, I think I dated many of them, 318 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: and when I was younger, you know, I did. I I, 319 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: especially in New York, dated a guy from New Jersey. 320 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: Reminded me a lot of him. And you know that 321 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 2: this person that is got a lot of walls up, 322 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 2: but underneath they're really a teddy bear that ends up 323 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: doing the right thing for everybody, but would prefer to 324 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: not have to put themselves in vulnerable positions, but when 325 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: the time comes, they they're there for their family and 326 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 2: they're there for people that they authentically care about in 327 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: their community. 328 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, I have What do you think about Jessic's 329 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: chances here? 330 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I think it's good writing because it doesn't 331 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: look good in this episode, right. He's not making good choices. 332 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: He's running, he's hiding, he's not dealing with what he 333 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: needs to deal with, and he's angry about it. 334 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: You know, let me ask you the perennial question that 335 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: is being asked now and for the last several years, 336 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: and people always ask me what team I'm on in 337 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: terms of Rory's boyfriends Jeff, I know, Wow or Dean. 338 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Where do you fall? 339 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: I'm definitely it's more exciting. I always have been in 340 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 2: this show. I just thought he was her first real love, 341 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: and for me, the romantic part of their relationship from 342 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 2: the beginning to the middle of the end was really 343 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: exciting to watch and really engaging. So I mean, you know, 344 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 2: I really was always team jess Plus, he was super 345 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 2: cute and he had that bad boy quality and that's 346 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: a lot that's fun. 347 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: I'm trying to look at it. And I have a 348 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: very practical answer for this question that I will share. 349 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: But I think that those two sort of reflect each 350 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: other's wounds, psychological wounds, perhaps on a deeper level than 351 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: diner logan. But oh, okay, I don't know if it's 352 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: the healthiest. I don't know that they're really in love. 353 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't I don't know that 354 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: what they're responding two in each of them is love 355 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: with the other person or or is it a recognition 356 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: of a wound that they both share from their childhood 357 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: that has to do with hers with Christopher or her father, 358 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: and him with obviously his father. 359 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: And you know, that makes a lot of sense. I 360 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 2: think that's a great idea. I love that. I think 361 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: maybe what I was responding to, which I think it's 362 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: a huge part of young romance, is I just felt 363 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 2: like the chemistry between them and the attraction was stronger. Right, 364 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 2: that's what I'm attracting. And it's probably because of what 365 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: you said. 366 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's just because of the wound. It's not 367 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: falling in love that has to represent safety for you, Right, 368 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: it's a different if it's it's a different chemical right. 369 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if these if these two I'm trying 370 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: to figure out if these two are just sort of, 371 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, giving each other dopamine hits as opposed to 372 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: like real, real pair bonding. 373 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 2: Well, that's young love, right. Would they have made it 374 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: in their thirties and forties? I don't know, right, Yeah, 375 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: I think it's a good point. 376 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: Right, because I always say Logan. And the reason I 377 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: answer Logan is, you know, he's to the manner born, 378 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: she's to the manner born sort of. I think intellectually, yeah, 379 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: he was her equal. I think that he is more 380 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: mature than the other two. I think he also has 381 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: his issues with his own father, but they are not insurmountable, 382 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: and he is strong enough and smart enough to sort 383 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: of get self help and also get the therapy. I 384 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: think that he might need, right to overcome this. I 385 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: just think he's more of a man at a young age, 386 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: more of a potentially good man at a young age, 387 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: than the other two. And I also think, and this 388 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: is a cynical part of me, that ten years into 389 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: their marriage, let's say it's Logan and Rory, and it's 390 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: Logan's child, and they have a second child and they're 391 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: ten years in to a marriage. I'm thinking, who's less 392 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: likely to cheat? Who's more likely to cheat? 393 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: Oh? 394 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: For sure, Jess is it Jess? Is it Dean? Dean 395 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: is it Logan? And I fall on it's either two 396 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: thirds of these guys are gonna cheat or they're all 397 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: gonna cheat. And now we have to talk about divorce 398 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: and where she's going to get the best settlement. And 399 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: I know that's very cynical, but she's going to get 400 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars a divorce settlement from Logan, 401 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: and maybe some of that money trickles back into Luke 402 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: and Laurel. I maybe I can get a boat, Laura, 403 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: I can get a better in whatever. But then O 404 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: Rory also gets some kind of revenge, a measure of 405 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: revenge against Mitchem Huntsberger, who you know, pretty much pillar 406 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: to Post destroyed her ego regarding her career in journalism. 407 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: So she didn't have it, you know, she just doesn't 408 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: have what it takes this kind of thing. Maybe he 409 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: was right, if something like that is going to crush 410 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: a person, then they maybe they weren't meant for it anyway. 411 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: But I almost disagree with that because a lot of 412 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: people that are highly sensitive, highly gifted, highly talented can 413 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: easily get crushed by, especially like a wrecking ball that 414 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: Mitcham hunsker Burger was to her. I mean he delivered 415 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: that with a crush crushing blow after crush blow. I mean, 416 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: there's there's a way to say something like that, and 417 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: he you know, he just went for the jugular. Yeah, 418 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: So anyway, she gets a revenge. Plus, I also think 419 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: in the lore of in the lore of the storytelling, 420 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: you can continue this piece with a kind of a 421 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: Gilmore Hunsburger children. As they grow the does the DNA 422 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: force them into stars hollow like situations? So the storytelling 423 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: continue to a new generation of people, you know, the 424 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: children of Rory and Logan. Will they grow up and 425 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: rebel the way Laura like, you know what I mean? 426 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 1: Is it just in their DNA? So I think that 427 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: for me is the best choice. And that's my answer, 428 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: and I'm sticking to it. 429 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. I'm sticking to Jess. 430 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, like you I do. 431 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: I think, I don't know. I think there's also a 432 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: counter argument that opposites attract and they can be good 433 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: for each other, right they opposite way of viewing life. 434 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: And I don't know. I think maybe Jess might settle 435 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: down and be more like Luke as he gets older 436 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: and want to be in a consistent place and not 437 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: need as much pressure on himself to make a living 438 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: and meet all the needs and be happy in a 439 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: smaller town. It could happen, So that might work. 440 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: There was a part of me that's rooting for Jess 441 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: and that I do see him eventually getting it together 442 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: and you know, teaching English at a community college or 443 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: a small college somewhere in the Northeast and being settled 444 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, no figuring it out. 445 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's pretty young if you first see him. 446 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: Right, I think he's self aware enough to with that 447 00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: boats well for his future, you know, na contemplations and yeah, 448 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, knowing that he needs to get help and 449 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: knowing that, you know, and he's probably smart enough to 450 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: figure it out all on his own. But it was 451 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: always nice to seek help, right, and a sign of 452 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: real strength. Actually, Dean, how do you think that one 453 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: turns out that that marriage to. 454 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: I think I agree with you that I'd feel more 455 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: in the Logan route. The Dean just not. I don't 456 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: go there with the Dan right right, Yeah, not much 457 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: for me, just that I don't think that there was 458 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: talk about somebody I think would cheat mm hmmm. And 459 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: I think we'd have the biggest problem regarding the manner 460 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: and all of that. In some ways, I don't. I 461 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: just don't. I don't see it. So that's me all right. 462 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: Well, our time is drawing, nigh uh jil. Thanks for 463 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: joining us, always a pleasure. Please come back and remember 464 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: where you guys lead, we will follow best fans on 465 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: the planet, keep those cards and letters coming and stay 466 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: safe out there. All the best everybody, and also again 467 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast 468 00:29:47,760 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.