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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Hey, everybody,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Move the Sticks the Workshop series presented by Low's.

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Speaker 1: This is something we're doing through a few of these teams, Buck,

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Speaker 1: that we're trying to put them in the lab a

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Speaker 1: little bit, see if we can't solve some of their

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Speaker 1: issues and their problems, and preview the changes that have

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Speaker 1: been made. Focus on the commanders and what they've done

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Speaker 1: under Adam Peters and Dan Quinn to revamp that roster.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get to that part of the show in

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Speaker 1: just a little bit. But first of all, how you

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Speaker 1: do man, Madam?

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Speaker 2: Good Jay, We're here, I mean, we're in the mix.

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Speaker 2: Like his game week is exciting. We get to talk

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Speaker 2: about all these teams over the weekend, So I'm excited

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Speaker 2: about all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Buck. This is a big off season of change

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Speaker 1: in Washington. Ironically, I guess it's an election year, right,

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Speaker 1: so there's always changes that take place in election years.

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Speaker 1: But this is a new general manager. Our buddy, Adam

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Speaker 1: Peters takes it over. Dan Quinn is his hire as

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Speaker 1: a head coach, who has experience. He's been to a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, obviously, has an expertise on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. But I like the fact when you

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Speaker 1: a veteran head coach, someone who has experience in that capacity,

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Speaker 1: and then you think about change, Well, you've got ownership

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Speaker 1: you've got a new head coach, and usually that comes

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Speaker 1: with a new quarterback. And they have one of the

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Speaker 1: more exciting players along with Caleb Williams. I think Jayden

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Speaker 1: Daniels two the more exciting young quarterbacks we've seen enter

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Speaker 1: the league in a while, which is saying something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is Sam.

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Speaker 2: You talk about Jayden Naniels coming into the league as

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Speaker 2: but he has this managerial mentality that he understands when

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Speaker 2: going to add to this offense not only as a

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Speaker 2: look at, I look at that wide receiver corp where

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Speaker 2: you're seeing scary Terry McLaurin. You understand Deanmi Brown has

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Speaker 3: It should be fun to watch this offense cook.

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Speaker 2: And with Brian Robinson and Austin Eckley in the backfield,

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Speaker 2: they're going to have the balance that you want to

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Speaker 2: see in terms of being able to run it, but

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Speaker 2: also toward to the backs. They're going to make you

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Speaker 2: defend the entire field, and Jadon Dames is the perfect

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a stat I want to get to that's

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Speaker 1: going to tell you, you know, whether or not this

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Speaker 1: Washington team can turn a corner. We'll get into some

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Speaker 1: of the new personnel here in a minute, but how

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Speaker 1: about this one the Commander's rushers. This is a next

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Speaker 1: they're twenty third in the league. That's got to get better.

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Speaker 1: I mean you you cannot put this entire thing on

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels this year. I'm excited about him. I believe

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Speaker 1: but I don't care how good you are. If you

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Speaker 2: Now, you don't want to do that because you don't

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Speaker 3: But you also don't want expose that offensive line.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's there's some theories of team building. Some

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Speaker 1: you want a veteran, established pros pro in every position group. So,

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Speaker 1: want to put an old head vet who's got a

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Speaker 1: You know, so when you look at bringing in zach Ertz,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Taylor. You're bringing in veteran guys who've accomplished a

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Speaker 1: But do you buy into the value of the experience,

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Speaker 2: We have Zacheris and Austin Eckler, but some of the

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Speaker 2: defensive veterans that dan Quinn has surrounded himself by that

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Speaker 2: what they will be down the line. They have talent

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Speaker 2: but how quickly can dan Quinn get it going with

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Speaker 1: In terms of those veterans, I'll give you one other

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Speaker 2: And now it's one of the things that you do

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Speaker 2: Because dan Quinn has operated in similar programs, first in

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Speaker 2: But it's a collaborative effort, and you can already see

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Speaker 1: You are listening to move the six that we will

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Speaker 2: So what I hear you saying is this team might

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Speaker 2: It's about learning how to be a pro, learning how

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just think when you look inside this division, I

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are ahead of them, and I think they're

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Speaker 1: in a that's the goal this year. Let's uh, let's

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Speaker 1: be better than the Giants and let's try and close

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Speaker 1: the gap with those those top two. And I think,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, it sounds in a season

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Speaker 1: think the goal is, Hey, let's get the eight, eight

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Speaker 1: or nine wins would be a heck of a year

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Speaker 1: and year one in this new regime, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think there would be a nice accomplishment. Man.

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Speaker 2: Look, you get a crawl before you can walk, and

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Speaker 2: get a walk before you can run. And if dan

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Speaker 2: Quinn understands what he has and if they can just

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Speaker 2: get to being respectable, that is on the way to

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Speaker 2: being good. It's hard to go from as bad as

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Speaker 2: they were to being a really really good team in

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Speaker 2: one year. But they have some pieces in places that

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Speaker 2: certainly can help them get to being a competitive team

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Speaker 2: in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. Well, there you have it. A look there

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Speaker 1: at the Washington Commanders. Anything you want to add as

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Speaker 1: we head out the door and look forward to enjoying

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Speaker 1: a weekend full of football, buck, No, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, look, we're really looking forward to it. You understand

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Speaker 2: what the Commanders have in the fall. It should be

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun to watch this team develop with

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Speaker 2: a young quarterback that's as exciting as they come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. That is the Washington Commanders. And

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Speaker 1: this has been moved the Sticks the Workshop series presented

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