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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lounge,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters.

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Speaker 2: At the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Anthony Dorset, Demntrey More and

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Speaker 1: Newi Scrugs.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Players Lounge, brought to you by Aristocrat Gaming.

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Speaker 2: Newie is out on assignment, so your boy j Holly

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Speaker 2: aka Sualtan Pepper Poppy is sitting in the pravers seat. Listen,

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Speaker 2: Popy Baby, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: We got Barry Church and Anthony door set and fellas.

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Speaker 2: Some tragic news came down a week ago for the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys with the untimely passing of defensive end twenty

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Speaker 2: four year olds. Then Marshawn Neeland and we don't have

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Speaker 2: to get into the details of it all, but I

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Speaker 2: just wanted to open up and give you guys space

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Speaker 2: and room because mental health is something that a lot

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Speaker 2: of us deal with. I know personally. I talked about

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Speaker 2: it on the last show, so I won't eat up

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Speaker 2: the airtime with that again on this show. But mental

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Speaker 2: health is something that a lot of athletes, a lot

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Speaker 2: of people in general deal with and i'd set me personally,

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Speaker 2: I deal with those things as well, because there are

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Speaker 2: so many pressures that a lot of people don't realize

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Speaker 2: that athletes have to go to. Not only just being

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Speaker 2: able to perform Sunday in and Sunday out, you know,

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Speaker 2: but there are things that you know, a guy coming

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Speaker 2: to take your spot, the coach has been on you

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Speaker 2: contract year, dealing with injuries, battling it, and that's not

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Speaker 2: even dealing with the home stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, You're just dealing with the stuff in the building.

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Speaker 2: You dealing with stuff in the building. You know, the

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Speaker 2: media critique and the team's not playing well, and you

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Speaker 2: know you have expectations for yourself and you're not living

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Speaker 2: up to them, and so you're a critique in yourself.

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Speaker 2: And again that's all in the building stressors, nothing to

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Speaker 2: do what's going on, you know at home and you

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Speaker 2: know Marshawn, you know whose mom passed eighteen months ago.

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Speaker 2: So you know, sometimes people don't get over those type

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Speaker 2: of things. If you're lose, if you lose a parent

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Speaker 2: or dealing with whatever. There's a multitude things that we

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Speaker 2: can talk about in this but I wanted to give

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Speaker 2: the open space for guys to talk about, you know,

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Speaker 2: this type of situation and if you deal with you know,

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Speaker 2: mental health, what are some of the things that you

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Speaker 2: do to kind of help you win the day to

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Speaker 2: day battle. So I'll open up the floor to you,

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Speaker 2: you know, oh for sure.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, when it comes to you know, mental

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Speaker 5: health and all that stuff, I'm serious on that as well,

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Speaker 5: because you know, from a young age going off through football, you're.

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Speaker 2: Kind of taught to suppress that stuff.

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Speaker 5: You know, don't complain or you know, don't cry on

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Speaker 5: the football field, and you know, don't let emotions. You know,

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Speaker 5: as men, you kind of are to growing up to

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Speaker 5: you know, it boils over. I mean we've seen it

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Speaker 5: you know, to lots of h Marshawn, it's it's extremely

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Speaker 5: tough man and and you know, it kind of threw

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Speaker 5: me back to when I had lots of teammate of

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Speaker 5: my own, Jerry Brown, you know, during that on that

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Speaker 5: whole whole ordeal.

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Speaker 2: And it's super sad because you know these guys are young.

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Speaker 5: I mean at twenty four, you know what I'm saying

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Speaker 5: what you do, what can you imagine you know the

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Speaker 5: rest of that life to be. And it's just so young, man,

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Speaker 5: so young, and so tragic. So it's extremely sad. And

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Speaker 5: that's why I always say, man, check on your people.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's just not even you don't even have

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Speaker 5: to be like a full hour long conversation, just a

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Speaker 5: text message just to hey, how you doing?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 2: You know what's going on with you?

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Speaker 5: You know, hollow things going because you never know, you know,

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Speaker 5: you might text the right person that day that needs

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Speaker 5: reach out and if you can yourself a group.

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Speaker 2: They don't even have to be a group.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's just spousal, your loved one, just someone that

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Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with therapy. I'm just venting on It

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Speaker 5: could be you know, how great life is going, or it.

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Speaker 2: Could be the struggles that's going on.

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Speaker 5: But just venting and getting you know, those emotions off

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Speaker 5: of your body, man, is definitely a.

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Speaker 2: Huge for me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for me, mental health is it's the forefront of everything.

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Speaker 6: I realize it now being fortunate enough to you know what,

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Speaker 6: this is a special occasion. We actually got four players

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Speaker 6: here now at the show and shout out to Newly.

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Speaker 6: He's seen this time and time again. Working in this

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Speaker 6: industry for over two plus decades. Within itself, you get

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Speaker 6: to meet different people, You get to meet different personality.

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Speaker 3: We always make that ongoing joke when we're young, Hey,

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Speaker 3: you gotta be a little different to play football.

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Speaker 6: You gotta be a man's man, like there's something that's

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Speaker 6: high collision and all this. And it's like my dad,

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Speaker 6: I'm a walking cook, Liz. My dad always said there's

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Speaker 6: some truth behind every joke. You sit there and say

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Speaker 6: that somebody's not wired right, Well, you don't know that.

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Speaker 6: For me, I've been that guy. I'm the guy that

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Speaker 6: a week and not shout out to the NFL trust.

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Speaker 6: You know, they offer resources to where we can go

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Speaker 6: to counseling. And for me, it wasn't until my friend

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Speaker 6: growing up, watching guys like marrying the Barbarian going through

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Speaker 6: But my biggest fear is when I got off that field.

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Speaker 6: Whenever this comes to I didn't realize how therapeutic football

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Speaker 6: brain and body assessment this past weekend and to really

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Speaker 6: people too. And when I say challenge people, I'm looking

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Speaker 6: at you all as players, because we all got our

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Speaker 6: and his friends, and you experiencing them and not only them.

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Speaker 6: this table going through that big dog he's salt pepper

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Speaker 6: popular age out there. But you up there, like we

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Speaker 6: all got four different generations of football that is going

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Speaker 6: on right here. And when I do motivational speaking, I

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Speaker 6: go and talk to people like we've always been told

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Speaker 6: man up, don't do this and do that. Well, truly,

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Speaker 6: manning up is saying that, Hey, we all go through

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Speaker 6: a motion like I'm that guy and Barry, I tell

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Speaker 6: you I love Barry and ad no.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 6: But how many times do I call y'all? And I'm

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Speaker 6: trying to get a point across, But it's like, I

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Speaker 6: don't just call once, like I know we say pick

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Speaker 6: I'm talking to America looking at y'all. Call that person,

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Speaker 6: and when you call them, don't just call them once.

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Speaker 6: Don't just call them twice. If it's really on your spirit,

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Speaker 6: call them three times. Because I tell people all the

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Speaker 6: time when I call, I'm gonna call you at least

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Speaker 6: two times. And then if you don't answer me, and

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Speaker 6: if it's important enough, I'm gonna call you that evening

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Speaker 6: or that next day, and then you're gonna have three

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Speaker 6: of them, just like it says in the Bible, things

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Speaker 6: coming three. I want you to know that it was

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Speaker 6: that important, because just as it was important and you

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Speaker 6: reach out to these people, we always have that stigma

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Speaker 6: as men, the biggest line and the biggest misconception that

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Speaker 6: we always say, what do you say? How you doing, brother,

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Speaker 6: I'm straight, I'm good, I'm making it and this and that,

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Speaker 6: and they be like, okay, I got to the point

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Speaker 6: cause people don't realize when you're on Instagram and you're posting.

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Speaker 6: Some people post to say hey, I need motivation, But

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Speaker 6: a lot of the time, as players, we're posting for ourselves.

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Speaker 6: We're posting them. We say, hey, it was only one person.

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Speaker 6: remind ourselves that we're still that guy. We're posting the

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Speaker 6: old highlights and stuff like that, and fans are out

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Speaker 6: be like, hey, bro, you sure you good, because I

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Speaker 6: this is what I went through, brother, and so I

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Speaker 6: just want to make sure you're good. And every time

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Speaker 6: wasn't gonna answer you. I really was like, man, what

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Speaker 6: like the fact that you were vulnerable with me.

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Speaker 3: I really have been going through that.

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Speaker 6: And it gets to the point to where now we

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Speaker 6: we might not talk for a whole another year. But

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Speaker 6: now so you're on my list, keep calling you. And

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Speaker 6: that's what I'm saying right now. With everybody's going through this,

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Speaker 6: shout out to my dog Solomon Thomas. He's been going

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Speaker 6: through the mental health battle with dealing with his sister's

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Speaker 6: passing defensive linemen where they talk about mental health. I

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Speaker 6: encourage every Dallas Cowboy fan, if y'all truly love Kneeland,

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Speaker 6: if y'all truly love these players and anybody, reach out

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Speaker 6: to their foundations and when you go through these foundations,

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Speaker 6: help them. But just send them that message to let

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Speaker 6: them know that you're there, because this twenty four is

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Speaker 6: too young. Regardless of the situation, It's not just him.

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Speaker 6: We're talking about a whole generation that has been tooken

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Speaker 6: This man is somebody's son, This man is somebody brother, cousin,

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Speaker 6: and stuff like that. For these teammates that are going

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Speaker 6: in there leaving flowers here, you after a bye week

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Speaker 6: like this, you have to come in in the first day.

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Speaker 6: You have to do is sit here and remember that

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Speaker 6: your brother is not there. Like that is a lot.

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Speaker 6: And guess what, at the end of the day, They're

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Speaker 6: this week. And that's what makes it so tough. So

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Speaker 6: as much as y'all think these NFL player guys are

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Speaker 3: They're human.

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Speaker 6: We're all human, and we once we can get back

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm not dealing with any numbers right now

436
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 4: because I don't know numbers like that, all right, But

437
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 4: now to say what the Cowboys have actually done structurally

438
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 4: to the D line and to the defense, I can

439
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 4: relate it back to guys that I actually played with

440
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 4: and some of you guys might remember these names, Grady

441
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,919
Speaker 4: Jackson and Daryl.

442
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 3: Russell, all right.

443
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 4: D Russ was a third pick of the draft out

444
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 4: of USC D tackle similar to Quinn Williams, can ruin

445
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 4: the drill it and take over the game at any

446
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 4: time that he wanted to, right. And then you had

447
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 4: Grady Jackson too as well. And then on the outside,

448
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Speaker 4: of course, we had a couple of dudes who and

449
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying when I said a couple dudes, I

450
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 4: don't mean to omit their names and like they're just guys,

451
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,440
Speaker 4: but we had some decent pass rushers at the same time.

452
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 4: Once they were able to clog up that middle, all right,

453
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 4: and now the quarterback is not able to release and

454
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 4: come straight up the middle, and you got the pressure

455
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 4: coming on the outside. First of all, it's like everybody's

456
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 4: going to benefit as far as with pressures and everything

457
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 4: on the d line from having both of these dudes

458
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 4: Kenny Clark and quinnin out there now starting to show

459
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 4: exactly So now that rotation definitely increases, and now you've

460
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Speaker 4: got another man in there, and it's all about keeping

461
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 4: d lineing fresh. We know how that works out right, Okay,

462
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 4: then to hear that Overshawan is coming back, who was

463
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 4: one of the bright spots of the defense last year

464
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Speaker 4: before he got hurt. I mean he was sidelined the sideline,

465
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 4: he making interceptions, recovery, whatever the case may be. The

466
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Speaker 4: Revel kid, everybody's been waiting to hear to see him

467
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Speaker 4: play because his upside and everything that he had in

468
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 4: college and just his background story working at Amazon and

469
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 4: doing this and doing that, just to have an opportunity.

470
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Speaker 4: So what I'm looking at right now coming off this

471
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Speaker 4: buy is I hope that there's a surge and number

472
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Speaker 4: one confidence and just having this new uh, I guess

473
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 4: you could say top level player on the team who

474
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: can actually help to his play make everybody better every

475
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 4: you know, like you know how it is, I go

476
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 4: get in the secondary with Charles Wisson. I won't play

477
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 4: like me, no mo, I won't try to get as

478
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 4: close to be like Charles Wooson Eric out as possible.

479
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 4: So like it made me have an accountability to try

480
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 4: to be that much better to at the same time,

481
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Speaker 4: and I just know that we all know this team

482
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 4: needs a jump start, a boost of energy, a positive

483
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: vibe right now, and and and these two guys, Wilson

484
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 4: also the linebacker being and everybody coming back is definitely

485
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 4: something that is generating some energy in a positive place

486
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Speaker 4: for the Cowboys being So I'm hoping that whatever happens numerically,

487
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 4: I know there's still second in the division, right Okay, so,

488
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 4: and that's playing to their benefit out of the endang,

489
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Speaker 4: but they've lost a lot of NFC teams at the

490
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Speaker 4: same time, but still being second in the division. So

491
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Speaker 4: I'm literally hoping, you know, And I'm not biased towards

492
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 4: the Cowboys. I'm just biased towards good football. And I'm

493
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 4: hoping that this actually makes the team a better team

494
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 4: and his defense a lot better over these next few weeks.

495
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Speaker 3: I'm excited.

496
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Speaker 2: So Church, before you answer, can the Cowboys make a run?

497
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Speaker 4: Because I do want And I'm sorry I didn't answer that. Yes,

498
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 4: I think I hope they can make them. So I'm

499
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Speaker 4: not I don't have any confidence in in the and

500
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Speaker 4: for what I've seen thus far, but I do have

501
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Speaker 4: confidence in them bringing them guys of this caliber. All right,

502
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 4: what are you talking about? It's been it's like like

503
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 4: we've had the conversation. There's been too much beating around

504
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 4: the bush right around here instead of going straight through

505
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Speaker 4: in and addressing issues and calling people out and holding

506
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Speaker 4: them accountable. All right, you're bringing a guy who's top

507
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 4: of his position at run, stopping and and and and.

508
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Speaker 3: Being able to do what he can.

509
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Speaker 4: Come on, man, you have to be optimistic in some

510
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: kind of light here. And regardless if I ever played

511
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Speaker 4: for the Cowboys and I I had a love affair

512
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Speaker 4: for this team. Wait before y'all did, probably you know

513
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 4: what I mean. So it goes back to like I

514
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: want to see them succeed that I just don't believe

515
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Speaker 4: in them all the time.

516
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Speaker 3: And the fact is different. He asked you.

517
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Speaker 6: He said, with the additions that they had, do you

518
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Speaker 6: see them making the playoff?

519
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: Really? I need yes to no hardball straight to the

520
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 3: answer yes or no? Playoff? Ready with the additions or not?

521
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Speaker 4: He gave me a nice with the additions, if the

522
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Speaker 4: coaching goes right and they can get past the communication

523
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 4: issues that have been on the team, I see a yes.

524
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Speaker 2: Okay, Church to part that I want you to answer

525
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Speaker 2: before you answer the part about can they make a

526
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Speaker 2: push for the playoffs? Is you always talk about in

527
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: football terms that the rush helps the coverage coverage helps

528
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: the coverage, right, they're tired, hand in hand, right they

529
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: go Russian cover goes hand in hand. Does the addition

530
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Speaker 2: of Quinn Williams now give you a better because in

531
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Speaker 2: the back end the Cowboys get cool. Does this type

532
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Speaker 2: of addition give you faith that the boys will be

533
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: able to defend on the back end better? I do believe,

534
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Speaker 2: And why I do believe.

535
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Speaker 5: And it is tough because it's not like they're adding

536
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 5: you know, one of the top you know, past rushers

537
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Speaker 5: in the National Football League.

538
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Speaker 3: Now.

539
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Speaker 2: Quin Williams is a flat out dog.

540
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Speaker 5: He's a beast and you know, against the run, and

541
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Speaker 5: he understands how to you know, create pressure for the

542
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 5: middle of the field, which quarterbacks hate. Like when you

543
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 5: you can always step up in the pocket if you

544
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 5: getting drussed, but quarterbacks hate when that for the frontal

545
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 5: pressure comes at you. But as much of a dog

546
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 5: as Queen Quinn Williams is, he's not that Aaron Donald

547
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 5: type of guy that can affect the quarterback as quickly

548
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 5: as that as as Aaron Donald could. You know, he's

549
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 5: a beast, but he's not particularly at that level. And

550
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Speaker 5: I believe that's what the secondary needs most, right, now

551
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 5: is somebody who can get the get the quarterback off

552
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 5: of his spot immediately, like not giving this guy a

553
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 5: chance to go through his progressions. And what we've seen

554
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 5: so far this year, that's what all quarterbacks have been

555
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 5: able to do against the secondary. They've been able to say, oh,

556
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 5: all right, ones not there, two's not there, let me

557
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 5: go back to one. Because we all all that you know,

558
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 5: coverany series for that long. So it's gonna be tough

559
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 5: for them to get that much better in the secondary

560
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 5: when they still don't have that elite edge rusher. But

561
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Speaker 5: where I think it'll help is a lot of these

562
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 5: offensive linemen. They're gonna put a lot of tension on

563
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 5: Quinn Williams rightfully, So this dude's a dog that should

564
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 5: theoretically give the rest of these guys on that defensive

565
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 5: line more one on one opportunities. Now, with that being said,

566
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Speaker 5: can these guys consistently win those one on ones? We

567
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 5: haven't seen that so far this year. Like I would

568
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 5: love to see more from Dante Fowler. This is a

569
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 5: guy that when he was here, you know a couple

570
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 5: of years ago, double digit sack guy went to Washington

571
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 5: double digit sack guy.

572
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: This year he's not really producing that way. You gotta

573
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: watch it. You gotta watch it.

574
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: He's numbers.

575
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Speaker 6: I didn't realize last game that he was leading the

576
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 6: team in pressures in most QB hits even though he

577
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 6: doesn't have the sack. Unless that was an inaccurate fact

578
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 6: that the commentator gave us. He has the most QB

579
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 6: hits on that D line. He just don't have the

580
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 6: what you call it to back it up. So I

581
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 6: just what he said. Let me just play devils at.

582
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 5: And we see Clowny starting to clumb along a little

583
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 5: bit as well. But you just need to see more

584
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 5: consistently win on one on ones along this defensive line

585
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 5: because they've had their opportunities. They've had it so helping

586
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 5: the secondary in the back, and I believe he will

587
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 5: come in and help, But not like astronomically where this.

588
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: Is like a guy come off the edge just this.

589
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: This secondary could just sit on routes that that's not

590
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 5: the case as far as them making a run, you know,

591
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 5: getting into this, this to the playoffs or whatever the

592
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 5: case may be.

593
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Speaker 2: You know, I gotta believe it.

594
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 10: I was like, hey, I can't put the energy out there,

595
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 10: like I ain't gonna be able to gotta believe that,

596
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 10: and they are getting healthier in the secondary.

597
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: So stop, they can make a run.

598
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 5: Stop with the fluff, with this offense that they have,

599
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 5: they can make a run.

600
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: They can.

601
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 5: You know, we've seen it, you know this up and

602
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 5: down lady. But they can make a run. With the

603
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 5: offensive they have and the additions of Quinn Williams and

604
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 5: Logan Wilson, who I think is going to surprise a

605
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 5: lot of cats, they can make a run, honestly in

606
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 5: my opinion.

607
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 6: But I've been, I've been, I've been to counseling, and

608
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 6: I be remiss. I love what my counselor said, because

609
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 6: we've been talking about counseling. They said, when you go

610
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 6: in there and you're talking to somebody, you gotta give

611
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 6: him the hamburger. You gotta give them the fluff, the dressing,

612
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 6: and then the meat and the potatoes. Boy, y'all made

613
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 6: a nice good burger with all that fluff. He that

614
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 6: man salt Pepper Poppy asked, y'all said, based off of

615
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 6: the Deep Watch.

616
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: You can call it whatever you want.

617
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 11: Bro.

618
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, I'm good over here. I'm the epathy God.

619
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: It's me.

620
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 6: Anyways, he told y'all, he said, you that's been buris

621
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 6: thing this whole season on the show. Oh, behind four,

622
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Speaker 6: we trust, behind me, we do this. No, he asked

623
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 6: y'all for the defense of players that they added, And

624
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 6: you think that changed.

625
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: That, well, I asked you the same question. Get give

626
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: me the substance of the burger.

627
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 3: Substance of the burger.

628
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 6: They added enough defensive talent, and we all know that

629
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 6: it takes something really big and momentum to happen during

630
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 6: the season. I'm gonna say right now, with the turmoil

631
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 6: that they had, they're gonna bond and stuff like that

632
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 6: and hopefully come together with the star players that they have.

633
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 6: I could see them maybe squeezing theirselfs into the playoffs,

634
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 6: not so much as because of the defensive players. The

635
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 6: defensive players are naturally are going to help them.

636
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 4: Yes or no.

637
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 6: The difference that you know how they say some people

638
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 6: listen to rebuttal or something. First of all, you see

639
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 6: you see, you see how y'all y'all just wanted to

640
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 6: interrupt me. I said, I see them squeezing into the playoffs.

641
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 6: I was about to get my direction of why I

642
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 6: see them y'all started off with.

643
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: All the other he asked for. He asked you, and

644
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 3: I told you.

645
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 6: I said, I see them squeezing theirself in the playoffs.

646
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 6: And then he asked me, why do I this way?

647
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 6: And like I said, it's not because of the players. Yes,

648
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 6: they're gonna get better because these players are good, but

649
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: the division is so trash right now. There is nothing

650
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 6: that is It's not like you're over there with the

651
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 6: Patriots who have came back. You're not talking about teams

652
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 6: that are both going to be in double digit wins.

653
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 6: We're talking about a week division that somebody's gonna make

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Speaker 6: it in the playoffs with maybe eight, possibly nine, eight wins.

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Speaker 3: They sorry about the whole NFC.

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Speaker 6: Yes, that's that is the saving grace of why they're

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Speaker 6: going to make it to the playoffs, not because the players,

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Speaker 6: not because it's chinmatics, but the other teams are still

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Speaker 6: leaving them in the fight. So that's why they might

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Speaker 6: squeeze in there. Do you think the NFC is trash

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Speaker 6: right now?

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Speaker 3: The way that is going? You got, you got, what

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Speaker 3: what is Washington doing? Washington?

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about their division them right there

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Speaker 6: like out of those No, I'm talking about the East

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Speaker 6: is so trashed like Washington's doing bad. Giants just fired

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Speaker 6: their head coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but your three games behind the lead in Philly

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Speaker 2: and they already have a game up on you. They

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Speaker 2: do like the Path. In my opinion, the Path is

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Speaker 2: not trying to win the that's that's you can pretty

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Speaker 2: much you need an epicop Colli what you said.

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Speaker 4: They need to figure out a way to squeeze up

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Speaker 4: in there.

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Speaker 2: You try to find a wild car situation. This is

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Speaker 2: and this is and this is the part where they've

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Speaker 2: kind of screwed themselves a little bit because in order

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Speaker 2: to find a wild car you have to remember you

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Speaker 2: lost to the Bears Arizona, Arizona, You tied the Packers

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Speaker 2: and you lost, and you lost to the Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 2: all those teams that now your losses are you know,

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Speaker 2: so now count end. It's tough because the Bears probably

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Speaker 2: may get a spot.

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Speaker 3: I think the NFC West, that's you know what.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that back, you gotta hope that there's a

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Speaker 2: collapse in Chicago and now all of a sudden they

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Speaker 2: go from being I think they were five and eight,

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Speaker 2: six and eight, start three and eight or Chicago is

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Speaker 2: six and three. Right now, I'm gonna say five, and

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Speaker 2: I'm keep saying the eight, five and three.

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Speaker 5: Uh, which I think that can happen because their division,

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Speaker 5: they're gonna eat each other up there. They got you

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Speaker 5: still gonna have Detroit, Yeah, Detroit, Green Bay, Minnesota, like

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Speaker 5: they're all gonna play each other.

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Speaker 2: So that should work it so so how but that's

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, those teams in that division who are

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Speaker 2: better than you get the wild card. That is true,

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Speaker 2: and that's what that's what we got to get. That's

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Speaker 2: so you got to try to find your way in

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Speaker 2: through the back door.

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Speaker 6: So how do they how do they find That's why

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Speaker 6: I said, I don't think it happened.

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Speaker 2: Is a very when like the next seven you gotta

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Speaker 2: go seven to one in the last eight games, or

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Speaker 2: at least six and two in the last And that's

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Speaker 2: a tough.

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Speaker 4: That's tough, very tough.

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Speaker 2: That's just that's just you're asking a lot. And and

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Speaker 2: when you talk about this.

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Speaker 5: Team, it's like you need your big dogs to be

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Speaker 5: the big dogs and go out there and play like

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Speaker 5: old Digg doing this thing.

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Speaker 2: But he's up and down like he's too he's too

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Speaker 2: much of a roller coaster rat, you know.

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Speaker 5: So it's like you got to your big dogs, got

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Speaker 5: to step up and play consistently each and every week,

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Speaker 5: and you just don't see that.

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Speaker 3: From that And that's what I was going to ask you,

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Speaker 3: all right, So.

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Speaker 2: Hold that thought, hold that thought. Let us do our

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Speaker 6: Capture the frameworthy holiday photos with Santana at the start.

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Speaker 3: Present that by who.

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Speaker 4: Said Santana.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Santanna. You heard it right here?

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Speaker 6: I know what Hey Yeah, Santana will be spending the holiday,

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Speaker 6: yes sir, from November twenty first, all the way through

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Speaker 6: to the Star District dot Com slash Santana register before

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Speaker 6: December seventh.

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Speaker 3: You heard it. December seventh, you will saved five dollars Santan.

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Speaker 6: They just said Santana at the start so leave it

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Speaker 6: up to your imagination.

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Speaker 2: How about Santa Star. There's no way, No, it's not

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Speaker 2: there's no way. There's no way that you read it.

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Speaker 2: There's no way.

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Speaker 4: Can I ask you that give me it us just

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Speaker 4: hand it over, trying to bail you out.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I know, I know. I kept. I kept.

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Speaker 3: That's why I had to ride. I had to. I

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Speaker 3: tried to go with it. I didn't think Chris is.

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Speaker 2: Gonna No nobody that I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe you got what you got away with

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Speaker 2: one earlier.

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Speaker 6: No, I didn't get away one ear ear earlier, was right,

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Speaker 6: I will I did. I messed up on the last

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Speaker 6: I messed up on the last one.

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Speaker 2: It was that was by the way, monument Reality, by

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Speaker 2: the way, take a look, it's up.

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Speaker 6: No, no hold on. So I'm a fat guy. So

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Speaker 6: let's figure this out. So which one day I messed

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Speaker 6: up on earlier?

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Speaker 4: But it was you know what it was? It was

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Speaker 4: during the the first segment, and so players up, you know,

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Speaker 6: Last one, I said, Santana, but I knew I missed.

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Speaker 6: See I'm that type of kid that if I mess up,

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Speaker 6: I'm just going take double down. You don't have to

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Speaker 6: prove me wrong to double You don't have to. You

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Speaker 6: don't have to have to.

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Speaker 4: If you ever feel like you're doing something wrong, just

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Speaker 4: look up at the people eyes.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem. No, that's the problem. No, that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: But because I.

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Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, so that's the that's the thing, guys,

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Speaker 6: you don't know crazy. If you have confidence, that's all

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Speaker 6: that matters. They didn't even know that was good. Did

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Speaker 6: the sniper did what he always doesn't come from the back?

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Speaker 5: Look, whoa, whoa, Hey, okay snipers.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, let's oh wow. I'm going on to man.

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Speaker 3: You did that on air? It was you you. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Census is going to be here early, everybody,

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Speaker 3: just so it's all right.

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Speaker 4: You didn't got word on the back.

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Speaker 7: You gotta worry about that right now, saying usb portest.

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Speaker 3: I hope we don't go viral for this.

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Speaker 2: For to all my Santana Santa's.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't do Chris, I don't even

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Speaker 3: know that.

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Speaker 2: Where was we going with this before? I don't even know.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know defensive line. I guess.

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Speaker 3: This money on this d line.

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Speaker 2: So let's just lets do for in the show, so

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Speaker 2: we talked about do we think the Cowboys what their

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Speaker 2: recent additions, have enough to make a run. But let's

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Speaker 2: take it even the step further and look back when

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Speaker 2: you guys made your predictions earlier in the summer, if

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Speaker 2: you got a round training camp, you know, did you

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Speaker 2: guys see the Cowboys being here at three five and

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Speaker 2: one midway through the season. I'll start yes, I'll start

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Speaker 2: with did you feel the Cowboys are going to be

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Speaker 2: at this place right here?

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Speaker 6: Yes, they're right there on that mark I said about

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Speaker 6: what I said about eight or nine wins depending on

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Speaker 6: what was going to happen with the defense. I didn't

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Speaker 6: think the offense was gonna be doing this good. I

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Speaker 6: thought it was gonna be more evenly matched. I didn't

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Speaker 6: think it would be so lopsided. But yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 6: think it was. I didn't see playoffs like that. Okay,

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Speaker 6: it was too much just going into the season. It

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Speaker 6: was too many questions, Like I was really excited about

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Speaker 6: the George picking stray him come in and I was like, Okay, hey,

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Speaker 6: this is gonna give back another option. But with the

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Speaker 6: questions that were running back the question of office line

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Speaker 6: and then obviously defense, and then once Parsons was gone,

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Speaker 6: it was like, oh, yeah, they're they're they're swimming uphill

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Speaker 6: for me, So yeah, they're right around the mark line.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, Anthony, this when you were looking at your preseason

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Speaker 2: prediction of what the Cowboys are going to be this season,

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Speaker 2: halfway through the season, did you think that it would

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Speaker 2: look this way?

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Speaker 4: I honestly thought that they might win about eight games

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Speaker 4: this year, just I think me and Trey was in place.

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Speaker 4: Did I expect it to look the way it has looked?

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Speaker 4: Not at all? Like you I was questioning. You know,

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Speaker 4: my biggest question all all summer in trending camp was

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Speaker 4: the ring game. Never thought that Williams was gonna come

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Speaker 4: here and turn out to be what he's turned out

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Speaker 4: to be. Always have faith in Dak, but just never

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Speaker 4: thought that the losses that they have accumulated, they would

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Speaker 4: accumulate them the way that they did. You know, I

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Speaker 4: thought that that literally they would beat the teams that

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Speaker 4: we expected them to beat. I thought they would win

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Speaker 4: those games. But nah, and and and like Trey said,

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Speaker 4: I did see the issues with the defense, especially after

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Speaker 4: Micah was gone.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, and for me, I thought this team was

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Speaker 5: have three more victories, man, Like I thought Chicago, Carolina, Arizona.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, those were marked on mine as like

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Speaker 5: those are dub you know W's, you know, Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: I thought they might take that l But when I

881
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: looked at it, it.

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Speaker 5: Was just like so far, I just didn't think that

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Speaker 5: they would be where they are right now, and especially defensively.

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Speaker 5: Like I knew they lost Michael Parsons and I knew

885
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Speaker 5: I was gonna hurt, but the second to play, even

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Speaker 5: before the injuries to Diggs and all that stuff, it

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00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 5: was like, man, these guys don't communicate. You got too

888
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 5: many busts in the coverages, like mental mistakes, and that's

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Speaker 5: not something you see from a defense coach by flush like,

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Speaker 5: because the system is so it's so simple where you

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Speaker 5: could just it's one check here. It ain't like Rob

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Speaker 5: Ryan system where he got a check for every single

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Speaker 5: motion or if the guy looks this way, we're checking

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Speaker 5: it that. It's a very simple defense and these guys

895
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Speaker 5: just haven't been able to get a grasp on it.

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Speaker 5: And it's it's looked historically bad so far, but man,

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Speaker 5: they gonna make a run though bump.

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Speaker 2: All that they gonna make a run song. They gonna

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Speaker 2: make a run man. All right, man, that does it?

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Speaker 3: Can we put them on record? Can we put pressure

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Speaker 3: on him tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: All right? So that does it for us. I'll be

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Speaker 2: what you guy say, Yes, you're here all week. I'm

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Speaker 2: all week. Tell this this is no no, no, what're

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Speaker 2: you about to say?

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Speaker 6: Tell the fans? Oh yeah, you tell your viewers, bring

907
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Speaker 6: your followers.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you getting ready to say, hey, you

910
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Speaker 2: should be here more.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't do that. I don't don't

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Speaker 3: do that.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with you now. But I have created

914
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Speaker 2: a good seat in my show, and I don't I

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00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: don't mind coming over here with rental. But I've created

916
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: I've created a good niche and on hanging with the

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Speaker 2: boys big name and Kurt and Kurt. We got a

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Speaker 2: good thing going over there. We've got a good old thing.

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Speaker 2: And I want to do well. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: do well over here upstairs, Michael, like you know what,

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Speaker 2: Let's make it a truly a player's loud. Alright, So

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Speaker 2: all week. I hope that you will join us for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the week. As we get more into

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys as they prepare themselves to deal with the

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 3: What's the last part of it?

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Speaker 2: For Barry? For DeMont, trait for Anthony, I am Sultan

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Speaker 2: Pepper Poppy. This is the players bound to see tomorrow.

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