Speaker 1: Do at least a little something irresponsible like light off
Speaker 1: an m A D at midnight and rattle the neighbors windows.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just want to point
Speaker 1: out I never introduced myself like, Hey, I'm Marty. The party.
Speaker 1: One guy had a rain jack and they're switching hats.
Speaker 1: They had it figured out that nobody was gonna know
Speaker 1: that they weren't fishing for three days. You know those
Speaker 1: Bass Pro Shop hats. I think I'm going to like
Speaker 1: start wearing those more in like posts. Good morning, degenerate anglers,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Bent, the fishing podcast that recently replaced
Speaker 1: all the tubes on its beer helmet, because tonight all
Speaker 1: it wants to do is I'm Joe Surmellie, and I'm
Speaker 1: Hayden Samac and uh Joe, Do I sense a rager tonight? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. Actually, I'll be enjoying a quiet evening
Speaker 1: in slippers. But I mean it is New Year's Eve,
Speaker 1: which is really ever you've ever said, Yeah, that's that's fine.
Speaker 1: I just figured, look, this is the only time I
Speaker 1: can ever get away with with theming a show entirely
Speaker 1: around Andrew w K. No, did you know Joe that uh.
Speaker 1: Comedian Burt Kreisher is adamant that Andrew w K doesn't
Speaker 1: actually like to party them like he he was like
Speaker 1: adamant about He didn't have like a sketch about it,
Speaker 1: but like he had mentioned in one of his podcasts
Speaker 1: that he tried to have a beer with him and
Speaker 1: he was like, oh no, man, I'm good and he
Speaker 1: drank like a quarter of the beer and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked. Did you know? There's also a
Speaker 1: conspiracy you can watch those videos that claims Andrew w
Speaker 1: K doesn't actually exist, like he's not a real person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I swear it. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like the Mattress Firm thing, only cooler. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so I also follow the Hard Times on Instagram right
Speaker 1: and one of my favorite ye oh my god, so
Speaker 1: good and one of my favorite headlines of their's was
Speaker 1: aging Andrew w K declines Facebook party invite, and I
Speaker 1: thought that was genius. Um. Oh yeah. I also saw
Speaker 1: him open for Aerosmith once and I was the only
Speaker 1: guy in Madison Square Garden that both knew who he
Speaker 1: was and was excited to see him anyway, anyway. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: So anyway, look, you're you're pretty, You're you're young and
Speaker 1: pretty untethered. What are you doing for New Year's I'll
Speaker 1: just assume there's a vote collusion involved, would I be right? Oral? As? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know, some listeners know I've I've lived kind of
Speaker 1: a another life, and at one point that might have
Speaker 1: been true, man, um, but you know I don't wanna
Speaker 1: afford a VOD collusion anymore. Right, Yeah, well, you know, um,
Speaker 1: I think that uh, I think it might be taking
Speaker 1: it easy to My girlfriend and I were going to
Speaker 1: the East Coast for the holidays, and I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: if we're with her parents, it's certainly not going to
Speaker 1: uh not going to be a vo not gonna be
Speaker 1: a party. I'd say, well, if we're with my parents,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get wine drunk. But I don't know how
Speaker 1: it was. I was going to play out and your
Speaker 1: parents got a case of Josh Sellers or something, boxing
Speaker 1: wine whatever. Anyway, listen, no matter no matter how you're partying,
Speaker 1: that's supposed to mean. Man, I don't know, I'm broke.
Speaker 1: My parents aren't fair enough, fair enough no matter how
Speaker 1: you're partying though, right, I feel we we at least
Speaker 1: have to say do it responsibly, please, And if you're
Speaker 1: not partying like me and apparently Hayden, do at least
Speaker 1: a little something irresponsible like laid off an M A
Speaker 1: D at midnight and rattle the neighbors windows. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, Um, you know, speaking of responsibility,
Speaker 1: I believe that the end of the year is kind
Speaker 1: of the time to take stock of your many interesting
Speaker 1: and circuitous life decisions and perhaps make a resolution on
Speaker 1: the way you might carry yourself forward to that end.
Speaker 1: Are you a resolutions person? Joe? You know this came
Speaker 1: up last year and and nothing's changed. I am, but
Speaker 1: I don't share them publicly, right Like, I make a
Speaker 1: little deal with myself and then when I fail myself,
Speaker 1: there's no one to yell at me other than myself perfect.
Speaker 1: So it works out. Joe's strategy to success kiddos, a
Speaker 1: lack of accountability exactly, That's what That's how you gotta be.
Speaker 1: Um I do. However, I have one fishing related resolution
Speaker 1: that I am happy to share. Um No, not not kidding.
Speaker 1: I want to take my kids fishing more in two
Speaker 1: and it's not that I don't now right, because I
Speaker 1: love taking my kids fishing. But to be honest, like
Speaker 1: free time for me is precious right now. Like you,
Speaker 1: you have a lot more of it than I do.
Speaker 1: So when you have that day to get out, it's
Speaker 1: very easy to talk myself out of blue gills and catfish,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and like packing up loads
Speaker 1: of fruit snacks and show and talking myself into doing
Speaker 1: the grown up stuff that I want to do. So
Speaker 1: I'm promising myself that I'm gonna do that less this year,
Speaker 1: even if it means I have to miss a few
Speaker 1: more opportunities, um, you know, to do the kind of
Speaker 1: fishing I really want to do. How about you, man,
Speaker 1: Any any resolutions that you're willing to share at least? Yeah? Man, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that I want to get myself
Speaker 1: into like alpine lake shape. We have this one scale
Speaker 1: at the Mediator office that we use to, uh when
Speaker 1: we're planning trips or whatever. We got to weigh the
Speaker 1: gear because we take it on a bunch of flights
Speaker 1: and stuff. I stepped on that thing, man, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. I'm still hoping that scales broke. Oh God, please, dude,
Speaker 1: I would kill to be built like you are you nuts? Um,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a fine resolution though, man
Speaker 1: like I'll probably never see an alpine lake. Um you
Speaker 1: after listening, also, you should probably resolve to get yourself
Speaker 1: some gear in two from our sponsors, thirteen Fishing, and
Speaker 1: there I just went in for the quick, hard sell, right.
Speaker 1: I didn't even dance around that. But I really do
Speaker 1: want to thank thirteen for being part of BENT and
Speaker 1: supporting this this year. We're so proud to have them,
Speaker 1: and we genuinely love their gear, and they're a great
Speaker 1: group of people. Glad to have him here. A great
Speaker 1: group of party people, I hear. I've heard that thirteen
Speaker 1: Fishing knows how to party, and of course there are
Speaker 1: lots of ways to party. Right back in the day,
Speaker 1: I was a house party guy on New Year's I hosted.
Speaker 1: My dad would would clear out and give us the
Speaker 1: house as long as nobody drove. He's like, do whatever
Speaker 1: you want, just nobody leaves. Um. But also I know
Speaker 1: people that that like, just go to the local bar
Speaker 1: for New Year's. I know people that buy tickets to
Speaker 1: those all inclusive club parties. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like at a hotel or something. It's weird. I went
Speaker 1: to school at Tampa briefly, and and down there there
Speaker 1: were a bunch of kids running around with way too
Speaker 1: much money. And one year one of them rented out
Speaker 1: a strip club, private thing. I lived at an international dorm,
Speaker 1: and uh, there was some oil money there, oil money many.
Speaker 1: I've never known anybody who could rent an entire place out,
Speaker 1: but I did almost get suckered once into paying whatever
Speaker 1: it was a hundred bucks to go to one for
Speaker 1: a private Super Bowl party. Um, and I passed. It's
Speaker 1: not really my scene, tell you the truth. But we
Speaker 1: know a guy that knows some guys that wouldn't have
Speaker 1: passed on that kind of party. Right, So let's shift
Speaker 1: into Smooth Moves, our segment where we let guides and
Speaker 1: captain's vent about ridiculous things their clients have done and
Speaker 1: talk to my old friend, Captain Frank Campbell about an
Speaker 1: unforgettable photo shoot. Why joining us today for Smooth Moves,
Speaker 1: My very good friend, Captain Frank Campbell from Louis to
Speaker 1: New York. What's going on, Frank? How are you? Uh?
Speaker 1: Not too much? Joe, just enjoying the weather, great day.
Speaker 1: A lot of snow. You know, nothing crazy going on
Speaker 1: around here. So what is the weather up there? Because
Speaker 1: I was just there, which is why we're doing this,
Speaker 1: because you actually told me a story while I was
Speaker 1: fishing for steelhead with you on the Niagra Um and
Speaker 1: we got lucky. It was pretty mild. Has it gotten cold?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it more true to form up there
Speaker 1: right now? Well? Actually it got windy ergs you know,
Speaker 1: if it could, it's crazy. I mean I think I
Speaker 1: think I'm going to give up the fishing business and
Speaker 1: starting a fight flying service or something, because, yeah, it
Speaker 1: got windier than the fifty miles an hour we dealt with.
Speaker 1: We dealt with sixty winds on Monday. It's that. The
Speaker 1: problem is it keeps going from cold to warm while
Speaker 1: cold can't can't you know, figure out what it wants
Speaker 1: to do here like a lot of people, and you know,
Speaker 1: we're dealing with dirty water, clean water, winds, snow, rain,
Speaker 1: you know, we we caet all four seasons in the
Speaker 1: same day. Sometimes yeah, yeah, no for sure. So just
Speaker 1: just remind me how many years you lived up there
Speaker 1: your whole life, right, how many years you've been guiding
Speaker 1: on the Niagara I've lived up here in my whole life.
Speaker 1: I've been guiding going on thirty one thirty two years,
Speaker 1: so it's been but a long stretch, no doubt about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So before we get into this story, we we have
Speaker 1: to we have to set we have to set something
Speaker 1: up very quickly, sort of established something and um man, alright,
Speaker 1: we're going to hear from our Canadian listeners. But that's okay,
Speaker 1: it's fine. Part of the conversation that we were having
Speaker 1: that led to this story when you and I are fishing, Frank,
Speaker 1: was that the strip club scene across the border in
Speaker 1: Canada is a little different, generally speaking than here in
Speaker 1: the States. Right. Uh, that's not that I know personally,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, well in my younger years, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. It was it was on the way to
Speaker 1: debate shop. You had to stop, she did, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I picked up, but yeah, it would have been rude
Speaker 1: not to. Yeah. But but but I think and we're
Speaker 1: certainly not going to get explicit, but like, um uh,
Speaker 1: they can wear a lot less over there. It's just
Speaker 1: it's just like a little bit looser kind of vibe. Right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You're gonna say a lot
Speaker 1: of them forget are folding right? Yeah, yes, got it?
Speaker 1: Because I I also have never been to a strip
Speaker 1: club across the border. I'm not really a strip club guy.
Speaker 1: But like, this is something in fishing maybe in hunting too,
Speaker 1: that you hear a lot about. Like, oh man, the
Speaker 1: strip clubs up in Canada are crazy. So obviously where
Speaker 1: you fish is right on the border. All the bridges
Speaker 1: are right there. You can throw a rock and hit Canada.
Speaker 1: So's it's important to understand that, so that we get
Speaker 1: the full scope of this story. Now, how long ago
Speaker 1: did this happen? It was probably fifteen years ago, I
Speaker 1: want to say, some somewhere in that range. Okay, So
Speaker 1: take us from the beginning what happened, you know, and uh, well,
Speaker 1: we'll just we'll just let it, We'll let it roll, okay.
Speaker 1: So as it always, you know, we're booking a lot
Speaker 1: of trips for salmon and the fall, and I happened
Speaker 1: to book these, uh three three guys to come in
Speaker 1: and they booked three days for salmon Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 1: It's kind of during the peak time of the year,
Speaker 1: but that time of the year were balls to the all,
Speaker 1: you know, fishing every day fishing twice a day, so
Speaker 1: it's really where we make our money. So anyways, these
Speaker 1: guys booked these three days and they show up in
Speaker 1: the morning for the Friday morning trip and they're like, uh,
Speaker 1: coming on. I'm like, guys, you really don't need a cooler.
Speaker 1: We have something to keep the fishing. We have a
Speaker 1: live well if you want to keep no, no, no,
Speaker 1: So it's not for that. We got our clothes in there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that's a big cooler, right, and it's
Speaker 1: like a hundred fifty court YETI type thing yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, like okay, you know, we'll make room
Speaker 1: for it. Not a problem, you need to close. So
Speaker 1: they get the cooler, put it on, we go up fishing,
Speaker 1: and within half an hour, man, we're bam, we got
Speaker 1: our first fish on. Catch it. It's a nice, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty pound king, and the guys are all excited. Guy
Speaker 1: holds it up, you know, takes a picture with it.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, budd he's taking a turn taking
Speaker 1: a picture with it. Then as other buddies taking a
Speaker 1: picture with it, I'm like, what are these do is doing?
Speaker 1: And now they're saying hold on a minute. I said well,
Speaker 1: we'll get hold on a minute, we want to get
Speaker 1: some more pictures. Next thing you know, they're pulling clothing
Speaker 1: out of their cooler and changing and saying, can you
Speaker 1: turn the boat so we can get the bridge in
Speaker 1: the background. All three of them change their clothing. They
Speaker 1: rain jackets on, and I'm like, whatever, I'm not thinking
Speaker 1: about anything. They do this, and they take like two
Speaker 1: sets of clothing each. I think, I know what's going on.
Speaker 1: These guys are like, hey, you know, let's go back fishing.
Speaker 1: We go back, we touch another one, same exact thing happens.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you guys doing. They want to
Speaker 1: keep the fish, but they say, you know, we'll keep Okay,
Speaker 1: they're keeping them. It goes on. We touched like three
Speaker 1: or four fish the guys, which which is an average
Speaker 1: day that time of the year, and they're happy. I'm happy.
Speaker 1: Were going about one o'clock and I go to clean
Speaker 1: the fish, and after I clean them, they're like, uh, Frank,
Speaker 1: just let you know we're not gonna fish the next
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what, guys, this is like prime time. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: We're gonna pay you, but we're not gonna fish. I'm
Speaker 1: like Okay, I'll take that. You know, they're gonna pay
Speaker 1: me full rate, not gonna fish. Frank gets to sleep
Speaker 1: in there in a time of the year. All good.
Speaker 1: I said, well, we caught enough today that we were
Speaker 1: able to take enough pictures. We're going to the strip clubs.
Speaker 1: We're gonna stay right there for three days. Well, then
Speaker 1: I'm putting two and two and two together and saying,
Speaker 1: these guys took like twenty pictures of free fish, and
Speaker 1: they're like, we got we got plenty of plenty of
Speaker 1: photography to show to our wives, plenty of pictures. We're
Speaker 1: gonna prove that we were here. Wasn't a gripping green,
Speaker 1: it was an alibi. Yeah, that's all you. And also
Speaker 1: I was thinking these guys were premeditated and everything they did.
Speaker 1: It was crazy because I'm the guys. The other guys
Speaker 1: are like, Frank, what are you doing. You're over there
Speaker 1: with like for five minutes with one fish. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: we had to get some alibis. Basically, you know, for
Speaker 1: the pretties guys, I mean, Joe thirty thirty some years,
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot, but these guys went to extremes.
Speaker 1: I mean, the one guy had a range jacket, the
Speaker 1: other they're switching hats there. They had it figured out
Speaker 1: that nobody was gonna know that they weren't fishing for
Speaker 1: three days. I mean, you look at pictures, you'll be like, okay,
Speaker 1: and you look at it. Can we go over the
Speaker 1: other side of the river. It was definitely well planned out,
Speaker 1: and kudos to them. I mean they had been there
Speaker 1: before the year before, and it must have taken three
Speaker 1: d sixty five days to conceive this, uh plan, because
Speaker 1: they were like, we're going here. We know a time
Speaker 1: Miss Nude World goes on and you know, four thirtists,
Speaker 1: Like what these guys are unbelievable. I'm not necessarily saying
Speaker 1: I condone it, right, but it's pretty slick, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is a lot of four thoughts again, until until
Speaker 1: their wives start counting the spots on the back of
Speaker 1: the salmon man. They're gonna be like, here's the other part.
Speaker 1: And after you told me this story, I was like
Speaker 1: blown away. And then I started thinking about it and
Speaker 1: I'm like, they actually took it to another level because
Speaker 1: why would they pay you full rate for two days
Speaker 1: that they're not fishing unless the funds on the credit
Speaker 1: card or whatever also have to match the amount of
Speaker 1: days they stayed. That's because I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they gave me a check, Joe. I think they
Speaker 1: ended up giving me a check for the days, and
Speaker 1: the guys like, what are you talking about. We got
Speaker 1: the guy to receipt here, we got the check canceled cash.
Speaker 1: They had everything figured out. I mean, they weren't going
Speaker 1: to leave something, you know, to uh, hey, why did
Speaker 1: this end? No, they were they had everything. It was,
Speaker 1: it was it was ingenious. I would have hired these
Speaker 1: guys to murder someone if I was. They had it
Speaker 1: all cover. You know. There's definitely a resolution message wrapped
Speaker 1: up in that, like some totally yeah, I mean, definitely
Speaker 1: some good party buys, but also like maybe resolving not
Speaker 1: to be shady with with the mrs would be a
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, yeah, I agree. The premeditation in that
Speaker 1: is insane and uh it's it's like one of those
Speaker 1: stories where if you say, um, if you only harness
Speaker 1: that brain power for something good, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like the world might be a better place if you
Speaker 1: put that much forethought into something good. Anyway, we're about
Speaker 1: to harness our brain power, though barely one last time
Speaker 1: in the year one to bring you the fish related
Speaker 1: stories dropping harder than the ball in time square. This
Speaker 1: is fish news. Fish news. That escalated quickly. All right,
Speaker 1: let's kick out this news jam. Um. We don't really
Speaker 1: have much housekeeping other than wanting to mention that. Um.
Speaker 1: Several listeners reached out in regard to last week's show,
Speaker 1: which of course featured a riveting interview with Santa Claus
Speaker 1: and wanted to know. I wanted to know why he
Speaker 1: sounded so much like Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.
Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't sure what to say. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like both of them spend a lot of
Speaker 1: time in isolated locations. It's dark and cold. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: anybody who spent enough time out in like real cold
Speaker 1: weather like that knows what. You know, you can dry
Speaker 1: out your skin, so I think put the motion on
Speaker 1: their skin. It's starting to get dark, sorr. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think that pretty much sums it up.
Speaker 1: So you can stop asking that. Hayden just figured it out.
Speaker 1: You know, you get a little ashy, you need a
Speaker 1: little lotion, you know what I mean. Anyway, UM, we
Speaker 1: should probably try and get ted Levin on the show.
Speaker 1: Sometimes maybe he fishes. He's one of the most underrated
Speaker 1: actors ever, you know what I mean, So I would
Speaker 1: just ask him to say Buffalo bill lines. Um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: friendly reminder news, here is a competition, Heyden and I
Speaker 1: do not know which story the other guy has grabbed.
Speaker 1: Um and at the at the end, our resident noisemaker
Speaker 1: audio engineer Phil will declare one of us a winner.
Speaker 1: And it's it's my lead this week. So unless you
Speaker 1: you have anything else to add, I'll get started here.
Speaker 1: Get on with the Joe. Yeah, I know people want
Speaker 1: to go party, so let's just move it along. Anyway,
Speaker 1: as we close out begin a new year, I'm actually
Speaker 1: gonna help you twice with my story today. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make you more fashion conscious and richer in one fell swoop.
Speaker 1: Does that sound I'm gonna do it. I'm about to
Speaker 1: So this story comes from the story comes from the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, and um the headline, Lord, give me
Speaker 1: strength to read. This is how a six dollar bass
Speaker 1: pro Shops hat became a fashion trend. Nice? Nice you know? Uh?
Speaker 1: This is honestly this I've been noticing for about how long,
Speaker 1: like a like a year or so well. See that
Speaker 1: just tells you we we look at I think maybe
Speaker 1: some different things online, like because I have not really
Speaker 1: been noticing this and then this story hit and I
Speaker 1: was like, wtf is happening here. Here's how the story begins.
Speaker 1: Direct quote from the story. Jesse Alvarado doesn't fish or hunt,
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't describe himself as an outdoorsy person, but
Speaker 1: on many mornings, Mr Alvarado, a restaurant worker in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: plops a Bass Pro Shops Trucker hat on his head.
Speaker 1: To Mr Alvarado, it's just a good looking hat. It's
Speaker 1: a simple design, like you can throw it on with anything.
Speaker 1: He said, Yes, my hatred will grow as the piece
Speaker 1: goes on. Anyway, According to John Paul Morris that's the
Speaker 1: son of Bass Pro Shops founder Johnny Morris, uh BPS
Speaker 1: has definitely noticed the run on the trucker hat with
Speaker 1: the classic BPS logo, the vintage one with the jumping bass. Now,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't specify how much of a sales increase they've
Speaker 1: seen with these hats, but I'm betting it's pretty staggering,
Speaker 1: right because part of the charm of these hats is
Speaker 1: that they only cost six bucks, and these days it's
Speaker 1: not uncommon for the hats to be completely sold out,
Speaker 1: both in store and online. In fact, there's so popular
Speaker 1: that Fashion East is shall we say, routinely check the
Speaker 1: BPS website and there are even rings where where the
Speaker 1: members tip each other off to when they'll be restocked
Speaker 1: so that they can get the hats. Right. So, uh,
Speaker 1: why the rush to hoard them? What's the big deal? Well,
Speaker 1: here's the part where I help your financials in two
Speaker 1: because I'd be willing to bet some of you probably
Speaker 1: have this hat listening right now right It's it's a
Speaker 1: classic hat. According to the story, people are flipping the
Speaker 1: six dollar Bass Pro Shop trucker hat for up to
Speaker 1: twenty bucks a pop on eBay right now because they
Speaker 1: have become hard to get commodity. And as I understand it,
Speaker 1: you could flip a new one. You could flip one
Speaker 1: that you've sweated in on on Lake of the O's
Speaker 1: Arks for the last twenty years. Both will sell. You
Speaker 1: might get more for this for the sweaty one. Oh man, Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: nothing more that hipsters like than like provenance. There's not
Speaker 1: even hipsters really, man, It's like, Joe, are you familiar
Speaker 1: with the term boy. Yeah, yeah, I am. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know like the full definition, but I've heard
Speaker 1: it thrown around. It's just like kind of like a
Speaker 1: kind of like gen Z millennial, Like toolbag is what
Speaker 1: that basically comes from. I like it. I'll start using
Speaker 1: that more now that you've explained it. It is the
Speaker 1: same negative connotation of a hipster, but it's more widely
Speaker 1: applied to like jockey sort of folks. Got it. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if it's going to make it to the
Speaker 1: podcast listeners now, you know, no, no, no, it is.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, I I you know where I
Speaker 1: heard the term I don't want to get off. There
Speaker 1: was the thing on Instagram. It was like a comedy
Speaker 1: thing out of California called Cherdley's. Does that ring a bell?
Speaker 1: M m? Maybe I haven't seen it in a while,
Speaker 1: but they used to use that term. Anyway, we'll move on.
Speaker 1: We'll move on here. Um, but this this gives me
Speaker 1: an idea. I'm gonna bring it up a little bit
Speaker 1: later in this podcast. But I have an idea that
Speaker 1: I think you might like. Okay, okay, So the article
Speaker 1: tries to break down exactly why these hats have become
Speaker 1: so trendy and the reasons very This is going back
Speaker 1: to the story. Patrick Simms, a thirty four year old
Speaker 1: account manager at a marketing agency in Austin, said the
Speaker 1: caps bring him back to high school. Okay, that's cool,
Speaker 1: no issue that He says he went to BPS with
Speaker 1: his father back in the day and has fond memories
Speaker 1: of this. Also cool, nothing, that's that's great. But then
Speaker 1: he says the hats also make him think of resurgent
Speaker 1: fashion trends in the aughts, and I hate that term.
Speaker 1: In the aughts when celebs like Paris Hilton and Justin
Speaker 1: Timberlake helped popularize trucker hats. Oh yeah, like the von
Speaker 1: Dutch Von Dutch exactly. Mr Sims to BPS hats satisfy
Speaker 1: his NEStalgia on two fronts, personal and pop cultural. And
Speaker 1: I just need to clarify um that it was not
Speaker 1: Paris Hilton or Justin timber Lake that popularize the mess
Speaker 1: trucker hat. I think the o G people listening will
Speaker 1: agree with me that it became popular well before them,
Speaker 1: well before the odds, way back ninety four, when one
Speaker 1: was worn by Sea Bass in Dumb and Dumber. That
Speaker 1: is what popularized the trucker had and I would love
Speaker 1: to remind everybody what Sea Basses Hat said, but I
Speaker 1: won't on the show. Uh So then we have right
Speaker 1: then we have twenty eight year old John Wright, who
Speaker 1: is an entrepreneur and an actual hunter based in Nashville.
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with him, but I assume he has
Speaker 1: a TikTok following because he says, um, on TikTok, it's
Speaker 1: all you see. It's every different color hat. You see
Speaker 1: the trucker hat everywhere. I'm not on TikTok, so I
Speaker 1: don't do that. So that was new information to me,
Speaker 1: that idea that I told you about in the beginning. Uh,
Speaker 1: my girlfriend is on TikTok, and we have talked before
Speaker 1: about the bass pro trucker hat trend. Really this has
Speaker 1: come up in conversation at home. Well yep, and I
Speaker 1: asked her about it in this exact context. Why are
Speaker 1: all these boys wearing these trucker hats? Um? I think? Yeah.
Speaker 1: My idea was, why don't we give her a call
Speaker 1: real quick? Oh my god, do it right now. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell her that I that I want to get
Speaker 1: a bunch of these trucker hats and we'll see what
Speaker 1: she says. It's the news first. Hey, um, Joe and
Speaker 1: I have been talking about how like we're going to
Speaker 1: connect um more with like that we're trying to get
Speaker 1: like the fishing audience, and we're trying to get a
Speaker 1: younger demographic, and like part of the way we're doing
Speaker 1: that is like social media ship and you know those
Speaker 1: Bass Pro Shop hats. Yes, I think I'm gonna like
Speaker 1: start wearing those more in like posts. Okay, why are
Speaker 1: you telling me this? I just wanted to know what
Speaker 1: you thought about like those hats. I think they're stupid looking.
Speaker 1: Why because they look do? She? We like? What? What
Speaker 1: do you? What do you mean? I don't know. It
Speaker 1: just reminds me of like a frat bro and I'm
Speaker 1: not about it. Okay, Um, Joe, do you have any
Speaker 1: uh what I said? Thanks for that, but we need
Speaker 1: to continue on with news now. For cutting into the
Speaker 1: party time, Joe said, thank you for that, but we're
Speaker 1: getting on with news now. Okay, great, Joe, Okay, bye.
Speaker 1: Do She was not It's not It wasn't one of
Speaker 1: the words I was gonna use, but she said it
Speaker 1: not me, So you know, and let me tell you what.
Speaker 1: Frat boy is only four letters away from boys, So
Speaker 1: you know anyway, all right, so let's let's let's get
Speaker 1: out of this right. Uh, the story continues. The trendiness
Speaker 1: of this has confounded some long time loyalists of the brand.
Speaker 1: Adrian Williams, twenty six, And this is gonna be my
Speaker 1: favorite one. This is the last guy from the story
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about. But you have to
Speaker 1: hear this one. Adrian Williams, twenty six, of Raleigh, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: has older family members and peers who grew up hunting
Speaker 1: and shopping at Bass Pro. Ask him, why are you
Speaker 1: using the hats as a fashion statement. Mr Williams, an
Speaker 1: account executive, explained that he likes the shape of the
Speaker 1: hats and the array of colors. He grew up hunting
Speaker 1: and now legs to pair the hats with Chelsea boots
Speaker 1: and skinny jeans. All right, I like Chelsea boots. How
Speaker 1: did I know you were going to say that? I
Speaker 1: didn't even know what Chelsea boots were, or at least
Speaker 1: I didn't know that's what those slip on boots were called.
Speaker 1: I didn't know they were called Chelsea boots. But for
Speaker 1: anybody else who didn't know, here's a quick explanation of
Speaker 1: them from YouTube channel Real Men, Real Style. In fact,
Speaker 1: if we were to use a car analogy, those work
Speaker 1: boots are a truck. This an suv built on a
Speaker 1: car chassis in a nutshell. It makes them versatile, but
Speaker 1: they're really at home in the city. So dude, I
Speaker 1: cannot like whatever quick story. When I was in college,
Speaker 1: trucker hats were the thing. I never wore them, and
Speaker 1: not because I didn't read them. I know I didn't,
Speaker 1: and it's not because I didn't like them. I just
Speaker 1: kind of didn't wear hats for like fashion. I wore
Speaker 1: ball caps when I went fishing. I wore hats when
Speaker 1: I fished, but I never wore one a class or
Speaker 1: like out to the bar. Really, I'm nowadays, I just
Speaker 1: want to hide my mostly salt with a splash of
Speaker 1: pepper hair, so I wear a hat all the time.
Speaker 1: But back then, all the hats I owned said like
Speaker 1: fish Pond, Betty and Nick's baiton Tackle, the feathered hook
Speaker 1: fly Shop, dorky ship, like you can't wear that to
Speaker 1: a party. Um, But I remember seeing this particular bass
Speaker 1: pro shops hat back then, and I was like, that's
Speaker 1: my hat. It's a cool trucker hat and supports my
Speaker 1: fishing jones. And shortly after deciding to get one, I
Speaker 1: saw two in the same night at a house party
Speaker 1: where like Chevelle was playing very loudly, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, never mind, right, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Then it seemed like the whole trucker hat thing died,
Speaker 1: so I'd say the dudes that kept wearing them were
Speaker 1: more likely to be anglers and you know that just
Speaker 1: thought they were a cool hat. But now after this,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's it's like, if you're one
Speaker 1: of those people that loved him, like we regret to
Speaker 1: inform you that it's not cool for your girlfriend. It's
Speaker 1: douche at least not you know, it's not cool for
Speaker 1: hardcore fisherman. So I don't know. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: almost more knu a Salt Life sticker now, So spell
Speaker 1: that ship on eBay if you got it, get your
Speaker 1: money and buy a few packs of Sanko's instead Bass
Speaker 1: Pro Shops hats. There you go. Oh and one more thing.
Speaker 1: Listener Glenn Cranefeld sent me a link to an op
Speaker 1: ed piece about this hat and it was written by
Speaker 1: Matt Labash that I highly recommend you guys read. It's
Speaker 1: called bass holes. So just google bass holes plus Labash.
Speaker 1: That's l A B A s H and enjoy that.
Speaker 1: Moving on from bass pros to robo bass. Uh. This
Speaker 1: week in fish news, we have a very strange development
Speaker 1: in the fight to combat invasive species. Uh. Scientists saw this.
Speaker 1: I saw this, and I was gonna grab it next
Speaker 1: week if you didn't grab it this week. This is
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah. Yeah, So scientists have been developing
Speaker 1: a robotic large mouth bass to learn more about the
Speaker 1: impact of fear on the invasive mosquito fish. Before we
Speaker 1: got ahead of ourselves here and into what everyone wants
Speaker 1: to hear about that being the robo bass, we need
Speaker 1: to have a little like ecology lesson and get to
Speaker 1: know the mosquito fish. The mosquito fish is like a
Speaker 1: It's a small fresh water speci It only gets about
Speaker 1: like an inch and a half two inches long that
Speaker 1: was introduced to water bodies across the world as like
Speaker 1: a means to combat mosquito born illnesses by controlling mosquito populations.
Speaker 1: Hence their name they pray a lot on mosquitoes um.
Speaker 1: There are some instances of this working, that being the
Speaker 1: introduction of mosquito fish um, most notably in Sochi, where
Speaker 1: there's actually a statue of a mosquito fish commemorating its
Speaker 1: role in eradicating malaria on the nearby Black Sea coast.
Speaker 1: No way that really worked out there. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Fun fact, Wait, it seems to It seems too. I
Speaker 1: mean like there are various, like you know, factions of
Speaker 1: like the scientific community who were like that worked really well,
Speaker 1: and then there are others like that did not work
Speaker 1: as well as you might think, and it was probably
Speaker 1: some other ship. These drugs we developed worked even ben Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're pretty good. Unfortunately, the success of the introduction program
Speaker 1: was limited, and instead many areas saw like negative impacts
Speaker 1: caused by the introduced species, that being the mosquito fish. Ironically,
Speaker 1: the mosquito fish's presence often made the mosquito population increase.
Speaker 1: And the reason that is is because they compete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'd out compete native fish for like other food sources.
Speaker 1: So the mosquito fishes don't just eat mosquitoes, they eat
Speaker 1: other shot it, got it. They had options, so they
Speaker 1: opted out of mosquitoes kind of right exactly, and that
Speaker 1: led to crashes in native fish populations, and those native
Speaker 1: fish would also eat mosquitoes. So if there are like
Speaker 1: five fish, one of them being the mosquito fish, four
Speaker 1: of them being other native species, those five species together
Speaker 1: we're eating mosquitoes. Got it? I think? Yes, it's it's
Speaker 1: a hard thing to unpack it and sort it out later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Okay, Anyhow, now the moment
Speaker 1: you've been waiting for, enter robo bass. The robo bass
Speaker 1: is a horrifying like albino robot large mouth. I mean
Speaker 1: this is just based on some of the pictures that
Speaker 1: I've seen of it, and scientists have been using it
Speaker 1: to scare the ship out of the mosquito fish in aquariums.
Speaker 1: It's as an experiment, it kind of cracks me up.
Speaker 1: As I kind of touched on for half a second
Speaker 1: in the opening, scientists are using the robots learning exactly
Speaker 1: what happens when the mosquito fish are exposed to fear.
Speaker 1: By building a robot replica of one of their like
Speaker 1: most voracious predators, that being the large mouth, scientists are
Speaker 1: able to scare the mosquito fish in the control setting,
Speaker 1: and then observe the physiological and behavioral changes the mosquito
Speaker 1: fish exhibit in just six weeks of exposure. They've noted
Speaker 1: that the mosquito fish has basically become a nervous wreck,
Speaker 1: losing weight in acting like just not relaxed. Importantly, they've
Speaker 1: noticed two physiological changes that could spell success for the
Speaker 1: future of mitigation efforts. One the females get skinnier, and
Speaker 1: two the male sperm production is cut in half. Mm hmm. Right,
Speaker 1: so it's having major impacts on the reproduction viability of
Speaker 1: the mosquito fish theoretically in a tank environment right now,
Speaker 1: to be fair, right, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So I
Speaker 1: mean this is all proof of concept, right, and that's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna get to in a second year. So
Speaker 1: what is the future of the robo bass. Well, you're
Speaker 1: not going to find a pawn by you getting like
Speaker 1: a full on stocking of terminator fish anytime soon. Its
Speaker 1: main purpose was proof of concept that being the fear
Speaker 1: could result in the mosquito fish undergoing rapid negative physical
Speaker 1: changes in response to a stressor. To that end, scientists
Speaker 1: are looking at other more logistically feasible methods of stressing
Speaker 1: out these fish, such as predator sense. Now that the
Speaker 1: concept has been proven to work, so this is super fascinating. Um.
Speaker 1: And just to be clear, what they're basically saying is
Speaker 1: they're developing these robo bass, right theoretically, you could put
Speaker 1: them in an environment with mosquito fish, okay, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna stress those fish out to sort of keep them
Speaker 1: in check. But the robo bass obviously isn't going to
Speaker 1: eat the mosquito fish so that they can keep eating mosquitoes.
Speaker 1: Is that the point? Because otherwise, why wouldn't you just
Speaker 1: throw a bunch of large mouth in the pond if
Speaker 1: they don't have them, Other than the fact that they'll
Speaker 1: then eat the mosquito fish, the robo bats, in my
Speaker 1: understanding of it, is used specifically in these controlled environments
Speaker 1: to prove that like stress will result in like a
Speaker 1: decrease in reproduction viability of the mosquito fish. Right. So
Speaker 1: the end the end goal then is not like we're
Speaker 1: gonna make these things and if you have a mosquito
Speaker 1: fish problem by a robo bass, throw it in. That's
Speaker 1: got it. That's not it. Although I bet you this
Speaker 1: is going to result in some sort of like crazy
Speaker 1: like articulated crank bait. What this is really meant to
Speaker 1: do is just to prove the concept that the react
Speaker 1: to fear in this way. And obviously like it's not
Speaker 1: viable to go put a robot in, like all these
Speaker 1: bodies of water were several robots and all these bodies
Speaker 1: of water. No, no, of course you wouldn't. And plus
Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't know how long they've
Speaker 1: been doing this, but I mean fish aren't as dumb
Speaker 1: as we think. Eventually that my guess is in the
Speaker 1: controlled environment, they'll stop being nervous because they'll realize it's
Speaker 1: not going to come over and eat them, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, I mean they do have the
Speaker 1: thing program to like lunge at the mosquito fish like
Speaker 1: it threatens them in like a very like immediate sort
Speaker 1: of way. Um. But yeah, like I said, the whole
Speaker 1: thing is just proof of concept in the controlled setting.
Speaker 1: And I think what they're really leaning on is, um,
Speaker 1: you know, things like predator sense, got it, you know,
Speaker 1: And that would kind of do two things. One, it
Speaker 1: would still allow them to like you know, put this
Speaker 1: stressor into the mosquito fish's habitat. But also, you know
Speaker 1: when you said why not put a bunch of you know,
Speaker 1: why not stock these spots with a bunch of large mouth?
Speaker 1: A lot of these spots like should not be stocked
Speaker 1: with large mouth for instance. Um, they have a big
Speaker 1: problem with mesquite to fish in Australia. And I think
Speaker 1: per our conversation with Karl Jocobson, there are not currently
Speaker 1: a bunch of large mouth around Australia. No, they don't
Speaker 1: need them down there. They got way cooler fish than that.
Speaker 1: Why you want to go, you know, throw a lay
Speaker 1: mass bass down there with all them Murray CODs and stuff. Yeah, anyhow,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll be at the mercy of fill the engineer,
Speaker 1: Yeah we will. I just have to say, though, my
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from your story, I just I want one
Speaker 1: of the robot bass from my kid. Like there's already
Speaker 1: a crank bait that kind of does that, but like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he'd have a ball with that, throw
Speaker 1: that that ship in the bathtub, he'd have a field day. Um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I cut you off, Well, yes we're going to fill
Speaker 1: for final judgment. Um, and I'm sure he's he's probably
Speaker 1: squeaking this in just minutes before the ball drops. So um, Phil,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, my friend and I I really hope
Speaker 1: you're not wearing a bass Pro Shops trucker hat right
Speaker 1: now or else I'm screwed. I'm screwed in terms of judgment. Um.
Speaker 1: And after we what are we doing after we hear
Speaker 1: from Phil? Oh, yeah, we're gonna go into a very
Speaker 1: special edition of that's my bar, because that's right. It's
Speaker 1: a roundtable with our dear friend and guide Marty a
Speaker 1: k a. The Party. Ye. And by the way, if
Speaker 1: you notice that that Hayden's audio sounds a little off
Speaker 1: and this that's my bars because he was legit drunk
Speaker 1: when we were recording and forgot to plug his mic
Speaker 1: into the karaoke machine. Zero one zero zero one one
Speaker 1: zero one zero. That's binary for Hayden. You're the winner
Speaker 1: this week. You know, sometimes when I work from home
Speaker 1: and I'm not in the office, I leave behind an
Speaker 1: albino robot version of myself just kind of prop him
Speaker 1: up in my chair. It looks like a crash test
Speaker 1: dummy with a two thousand seven zac Efron haircut. It's
Speaker 1: been three months and Hayden still hasn't noticed, and I
Speaker 1: think that might say more about me than it does him.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Best God damn bar tender from Kim buck
Speaker 1: to to Portland's Maine Portland argument for that matter. So
Speaker 1: we're doing kind of a special That's My Bar this
Speaker 1: week free Form Jazz. That's My Bar. I guess it's
Speaker 1: kind of like a bar round table, if you will,
Speaker 1: which is something that we've we've never done before. We've
Speaker 1: always relied on on listeners to write in and tell
Speaker 1: us about their favorite fishing bars. But well we'll shake
Speaker 1: it up. What the hell so so joining Hayden not today? Um,
Speaker 1: longtime friend of the program, Marty Ye Cross Current Guide Service.
Speaker 1: He's been, He's been, You've been with You've been on
Speaker 1: here many times now, Marty, Yes, A couple of least
Speaker 1: yes that I know of, And it only seemed fitting
Speaker 1: since we have a loose party theme for this episode
Speaker 1: that we have to invite you because your I G
Speaker 1: handle is Marty a k A. The Party, So we can't, like,
Speaker 1: you can't have a party themed bent and not invite
Speaker 1: Marty a k A. The Party Now true, When when
Speaker 1: I was first introduced to Party, I was actually party.
Speaker 1: I've been calling a party Marty all week. It's fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was introduced to him as Party Marty. I just
Speaker 1: want to point out I never I don't think once
Speaker 1: in my life have like introduced myself like, Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: Marty the Party. That name was getting to be here,
Speaker 1: that name was given to me here on the Delaware,
Speaker 1: like the guys are the guides around here? Just started
Speaker 1: calling me that. Please expand because my next question was
Speaker 1: going to be how did you become Marty a k a.
Speaker 1: The Party? It's so it's a probably based upon that.
Speaker 1: It rhymes a big deal to do with it. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. When I first came on the
Speaker 1: Senior in the Delaware was a couple of people that
Speaker 1: I'm still friends with, um rhymed. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: guess I just put off that vibe that I like
Speaker 1: to have fun, which I do in fairness, right, So
Speaker 1: for our Halloween episode, we didn't end up with a
Speaker 1: photo of you and a shark costume passed out in
Speaker 1: front of golf cart. That would have been like that
Speaker 1: was like the traitive party Marty. So away I thought,
Speaker 1: I thought this is what we would do, right, we
Speaker 1: always we always have listeners right in about their favorite bars.
Speaker 1: Um And when we kicked off this segment, when we
Speaker 1: first started it many many moons ago, I actually talked
Speaker 1: about one of my favorite bars on the Upper Delaware
Speaker 1: where you are. It used to be Lyddy Is What
Speaker 1: the hell is it called? Now? I just keep calling
Speaker 1: it liddy Is? I mean I still do too. It's
Speaker 1: called Nick Breezes Crosstown Tavern. Yeah, are the are the
Speaker 1: Are the fried mushrooms still as good there? Marty? You
Speaker 1: know I don't eat mushrooms, So but I could, I could,
Speaker 1: I could tell you what I normally get there is
Speaker 1: still as good. But I mean it's nothing. It's wings party.
Speaker 1: Marty doesn't eat mushrooms. That almost doesn't make sense, you
Speaker 1: know anyway, So you know, I think between the three
Speaker 1: of us, we've been to enough divy joints in different
Speaker 1: parts of the country. Maybe something close to home, and
Speaker 1: I just hiden and I thought we'd rap a little
Speaker 1: bit about like what are just some of the most
Speaker 1: memory a fishing bar that sticks out to you, whether
Speaker 1: for a single experience or someplace that you visit all
Speaker 1: the time. It's a roundtable. Marty and you're the guest,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna let you go first. Don't let me
Speaker 1: go first? Yes, all right, I mean you're in Marty
Speaker 1: a k. The party, so like we're like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a hard time following you up, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's definitely there's definitely one bar. So there's one.
Speaker 1: When I first got to the Delaware, Um, I came
Speaker 1: kind of with like nothing ish, like a hobo almost,
Speaker 1: so I don't have much so yeah, yeah, what a
Speaker 1: lot of guides do, which I find is common even
Speaker 1: now when they first start guiding somewhere in the minuterary,
Speaker 1: they like you know they're there. They try to be
Speaker 1: as cheap as possible. So I was in a trailer.
Speaker 1: I decided to live in a trailer. Sure, so I
Speaker 1: ended up through a body of mine at the Beaver Doll.
Speaker 1: So it's place is called I'm I might get crucified
Speaker 1: for like giving this spot out, but it's not really
Speaker 1: a secret spot, but it's kind of a cool hangout.
Speaker 1: So I had a trailer. So this is a place.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a campground, it's a bar restaurant combination
Speaker 1: right on the Delaware. Is this on the East branch More. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's right where at the junction of where it's just
Speaker 1: just near where downriver of where the junction of the
Speaker 1: beaver Kill and the Delaware meet. This this place is
Speaker 1: just really cool and it's kind of like, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the right phradge. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like the UM. When I was there, it
Speaker 1: was like the first starting like underground campground, like it
Speaker 1: just started, like it just opened for the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, so everyone was kind of new there. And
Speaker 1: it turns out that I still have friends that I
Speaker 1: met there, and it just turns out there's just like
Speaker 1: a bunch of guides and anglers, hardcore anglers that just camp,
Speaker 1: you know, most like I would say like fifteen percenteven
Speaker 1: were guys that live there like throughout the week and
Speaker 1: the whole during the season, and the rest are like
Speaker 1: weekend guys who have like trailers on the river, like,
Speaker 1: you know, you get this diverse mix of people like
Speaker 1: old school fly tires, like guides, um, you know, like
Speaker 1: just all walks of life. And there's a bar to
Speaker 1: and not to mention it's just like a really fun bar.
Speaker 1: The people who own it and and run it They're amazing.
Speaker 1: I love them, and they're good to their customers and
Speaker 1: they treat us again, it's just a fun place. So
Speaker 1: you can just imagine like me first coming to the
Speaker 1: Delaware trying to learn the ropes and I just get
Speaker 1: thrown and this kind of like it's you know, an
Speaker 1: underground e local diebee bar. I love it though, and uh,
Speaker 1: just all these mix of people of different flight tires, anglers,
Speaker 1: from all different experiences and just a really cool place.
Speaker 1: Is it The kind of place though that like you
Speaker 1: have to be in with the family and then if
Speaker 1: you are the random dude that just strolls in there,
Speaker 1: you're like, you're not supposed to be there. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that. I mean no, they're like I said, everyone's
Speaker 1: friendly there. You know. It's see the irony the one
Speaker 1: that came to mind for me. I've only been there once,
Speaker 1: but man, it really stuck with me. And also ironically,
Speaker 1: I'm going to Montana for a bar. Okay, it's not
Speaker 1: in Bozeman, don't get excited, Okay, but this was years ago.
Speaker 1: My first assignment for Field and Stream Ever in mont Hannah.
Speaker 1: We ended up in a place called the Antlers Saloon
Speaker 1: in Wisdom, Montana. You heard of this, You're a liar,
Speaker 1: I swear to God. Up in the Shields Valley. I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's on the beats on the Big Hole.
Speaker 1: It's in Montana, man, far far west side, almost on
Speaker 1: the Idaho border. Oh no, I have not been there's
Speaker 1: one with antlers in the Shields Valley because I burn
Speaker 1: hunt up there something. I bet you there's a bunch
Speaker 1: with antlers in Montana and generals. But anyway, so it's
Speaker 1: like this total honky tonk country joined on the side
Speaker 1: of the road and like it was me and my
Speaker 1: buddy from Jersey and we had no business being in
Speaker 1: there right. Like it was that kind of place where
Speaker 1: you felt like, obviously we're not from around here. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a gas station in the antlers saloon and Wisdom.
Speaker 1: But what it made it so memorable was you guys,
Speaker 1: ever been in a dive bar where somebody sort of
Speaker 1: sidles up next to you and starts talking. And sometimes
Speaker 1: that's cool, sometimes that's very cool, but sometimes the time
Speaker 1: you're just like, please stop talking to me, and like
Speaker 1: we must have just looked like baby faced, like not
Speaker 1: from around here. And this straight up Montana cowboy, like
Speaker 1: grizzled flannel shirt. He sat down next to us, and
Speaker 1: I mean, by the end of the night he was
Speaker 1: begging us. He was he was giving us all his
Speaker 1: girl troubles, his girlfriend troubles, and like begging us to
Speaker 1: give him a ride back to Idaho. And then it
Speaker 1: got really weird and at one point and he said
Speaker 1: all kinds of wacky ship. But at one point he's like,
Speaker 1: you give me your ride home. I'll show you some ears.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean. I'm like, what do
Speaker 1: you mean you'll show us something's like ears. I'm like
Speaker 1: human ears. He's like all right, And the dude just
Speaker 1: wouldn't shake us. But it was just it was like
Speaker 1: so dusty and dingy in there. I don't know how
Speaker 1: you just moved on from there, didn't You didn't say like,
Speaker 1: excuse me, No, I didn't. I didn't really want to.
Speaker 1: I just wanted I just wanted to shake the dude.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to shake the dude. And that was
Speaker 1: that was That was like the Antler Saloon stuck with
Speaker 1: me because of that guy, who likely if he hasn't
Speaker 1: passed away, it's probably still there almost every night, you
Speaker 1: know what, I mean, but don't you wonder, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you're covering headphones how much you wonder your whole life?
Speaker 1: Like what if I would have said, like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to see your ears, so you would have gotten
Speaker 1: in the car with dude and just driven him across
Speaker 1: the border to Idaho through the mountains in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night to go see his ears and his
Speaker 1: establishment what I'm saying like you just like moved on,
Speaker 1: like it was like all right, whatever, Well I didn't
Speaker 1: quite go down like that, but I'm not gonna spend
Speaker 1: an hour telling the whole saga. But I mean, I
Speaker 1: remember that it was one of those guys where he
Speaker 1: flim flamed, like he was in tears over his his
Speaker 1: woman leaving him. But then it would just shift into
Speaker 1: like his woman's waiting for him at home and like
Speaker 1: we can go meet or two Like dude, dude, it
Speaker 1: was just it was very all over there, very strange
Speaker 1: that a very drunk person conversation man speaking in which
Speaker 1: you having a holiday party. Attle. I just wanted to lead.
Speaker 1: I just want the listeners to know that Hayden is
Speaker 1: mildly for this recording. Yeah, Phil, Phil who just popped in,
Speaker 1: was feeding you cider and my ties or something right.
Speaker 1: We have Phil's feeling good too, and chef Kevin Gillespie. Uh,
Speaker 1: he made hot buttered rum. Phil made like a buttery nipple.
Speaker 1: Is that like a tour of a buttery nipple? I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. It tastes like if you
Speaker 1: let's see, if you dropped your fruity rum drink into
Speaker 1: the into the butter that you're dipping your crab in.
Speaker 1: That's what it tastes like. But a good time is
Speaker 1: being had by A good time is being had by
Speaker 1: well me. Uh, we'll keep it going. What's your boss?
Speaker 1: What's your round table? Bar? Where Marty and I have
Speaker 1: most recently cross paths was out at an outfit or
Speaker 1: that I have mentioned on this podcast, I think a
Speaker 1: time or two before, owned by the folks that initially
Speaker 1: introduced me to party Marty. Um, we met there and
Speaker 1: that's that's Sam Probably yeah, senate or over Outfitters and
Speaker 1: now Senate over Outfitters. In addition to having lodging and
Speaker 1: a you know, a pretty good tackle shop. Great shot
Speaker 1: by the way, really a good shot man. It's good
Speaker 1: you could ever want. As far as clothes, man, it's
Speaker 1: a good place to hang at um. Yeah, well I'm
Speaker 1: saying they like it's a great shop too, that he
Speaker 1: has everything as literally everything man has as he and
Speaker 1: that he were talking about is my buddy Chris Marty.
Speaker 1: Has Chris ever just run you out of house and
Speaker 1: home on the dartboard? Yes, oh my god, yes, I
Speaker 1: lost two hundred dollars to him in a weekend one
Speaker 1: time playing. I don't have a smart enough I mean
Speaker 1: I'm terrible darts. I was smart enough, never bent money,
Speaker 1: but I've played. Yeah, well you're smarter than I am
Speaker 1: because she was the But anyhow, Senator for Outfitters also
Speaker 1: has a little bit of a greasy spoon and a
Speaker 1: bar attached to it. Now, if you go down the steps,
Speaker 1: if you go go through the fish and lode down
Speaker 1: the steps kind of takes the subterranean enclave. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's all like naughty pine and like you know, just
Speaker 1: would and they give you peanuts and you can throw
Speaker 1: the sh Don't they have don't they have them? Is
Speaker 1: that maybe it's not them? Don't they have the money
Speaker 1: all over the walls? Yeo, I was just getting to that. Now.
Speaker 1: The main like you know, the main quality that this
Speaker 1: bar has. The main characteristic is a few thousand bucks
Speaker 1: staple all over the wall and all sorts of just
Speaker 1: drawn upon dollar bills. You know, I have one that
Speaker 1: I addressed George Washington up like Donald Trump with markers,
Speaker 1: and it says I'm gonna catch a steelhead. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be huge. Yeah, you know, I think there's one that
Speaker 1: has mind. It says Marty the Party on it. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't imagine it would say anything else. I'll tell you what, man,
Speaker 1: that bar starts off. It was like a normal bar
Speaker 1: where you buy your drinks and you to give you
Speaker 1: the drink, and you and you're drinking. And then by
Speaker 1: bound ten o'clock at night, man, it is it is
Speaker 1: no longer a normal bar. You're behind the kitchen, you're
Speaker 1: making yourself a cheese, yourself out of the well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like helping. We're too busy, you do. Like that
Speaker 1: happens often there. My takeaway from this this very slap together,
Speaker 1: uh that's my bar round table, is that at some
Speaker 1: point down the road we should do Uh it was
Speaker 1: Hayden you mentioned it like an East Coast um bar crawl,
Speaker 1: fishing bars crawl and film that as it it should
Speaker 1: be a video series on the media YouTube channel. The
Speaker 1: local watering hole is important to the fishing like culture,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yeah, so maybe, yeah, maybe maybe we'll
Speaker 1: get together and do that after the New Year. We'll
Speaker 1: make that a goal and then maybe it expands out
Speaker 1: because I'm sure everybody else could fill us in on
Speaker 1: where to do the crawl in the Midwest and then
Speaker 1: on the West Coast and then through the Rockies. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what man doesn't see as I will participate
Speaker 1: in anytime. Marty, thank you for bringing the party directly
Speaker 1: to Bent on New Year's What are you doing for
Speaker 1: New Year's? Um? I think I'll be at my brothers
Speaker 1: and Massachusetts doing nothing. Actually, do you want to say
Speaker 1: that again, because I assume the answer would be partying.
Speaker 1: You're gonna ruin your whole ship here partying. Yeah, your
Speaker 1: headset makes you look like a stockbroker in two thousand
Speaker 1: and two trading right now. I got multiple screens. You
Speaker 1: guys don't know trading right now. So happy that Marty
Speaker 1: could stop by for that little watering hole rap sessions.
Speaker 1: It's always fun having Marty on. Um, it's even more
Speaker 1: fun fishing with Marty. I know you guys have hung out.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever actually fished together, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I say every time he's on, he's the best. Three
Speaker 1: of us. Need to fish together. That's the thing we
Speaker 1: have to make happen. And and the bar crawl, both
Speaker 1: of those things. But maybe it's a good idea, um,
Speaker 1: And if you're listening, you know, put that in the
Speaker 1: uh in the content ideas we do need to go
Speaker 1: hang out and fish with party Marty all jokes aside um,
Speaker 1: And that dude is like like universally fishy, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He's really good at all types of
Speaker 1: fly fishing, from like drives to mice to nim thing.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, a jack of all trades. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he really gets after it, man. Like he's fishing
Speaker 1: on his days off, dropping clients off in the evening
Speaker 1: and going back out mousing by himself. So if you
Speaker 1: live in the Northeast and one of your resolutions is
Speaker 1: getting better at fly fishing, Marty is not a bad
Speaker 1: guy to know, a good guy to contact. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: can help you out. Um now, now, well, well that's
Speaker 1: not a resolution of mind, you know, because I already
Speaker 1: know everything about every type of fly fishing. I do
Speaker 1: have one more small fishing resolution, which i'll explain in
Speaker 1: this week's end of the line. Well, that's not loud enough.
Speaker 1: In honor of the new year, and since we've already
Speaker 1: brought up resolutions, I'm gonna close out end of the
Speaker 1: line for one talking about a lore I've never fished.
Speaker 1: I've just stared at it for about five years now.
Speaker 1: I've contemplated using it. I even thought ship maybe this
Speaker 1: could be some kind of secret weapon. But like many
Speaker 1: many anglers, sometimes I'm guilty of sticking to the known
Speaker 1: and familiar just a little bit too much. To our
Speaker 1: listeners in Australia, Tasmania and New Zealand, I'm sorry you're
Speaker 1: gonna be cross with me after this, But that's okay
Speaker 1: because I'm already saying right now I'm wrong, and you're right.
Speaker 1: You already understand the power of the Tasmanian Devil Lord
Speaker 1: or TASI for short, if the Internet is correct, But
Speaker 1: I do not. The Tasmanian Devil I own is listed
Speaker 1: on the website of Tasmanian Lord maker Wigston as Christmas tree.
Speaker 1: But when I look at the blended red, green and
Speaker 1: gold foil on that body. All I see are Rastafarian shades.
Speaker 1: Tasmanian devils are very unique. Picture a torpedo without any finds.
Speaker 1: The weighted body has a slightly tapered cigar shape which
Speaker 1: curves up just a little to give it a bit
Speaker 1: of bow. The cigar bodies are painted or foiled with
Speaker 1: all kinds of snazzy colors like hot Canary, Rally's Riot,
Speaker 1: and bleeding Flamingo. That body is then completely encased in
Speaker 1: clear plastic, which forms a wide set of tapering wings
Speaker 1: on either side of the body. Now, the silhouette of
Speaker 1: a tazzi is kind of reminiscent of a man array
Speaker 1: or a flying squirrel or one of those red bull
Speaker 1: whack jobs that base jumps in one of those wingsuits. Anyway,
Speaker 1: the Tasmanian devil is a line through lure, meaning instead
Speaker 1: of having attached hooks, you run the end of your
Speaker 1: liner leader through the hole in the lure's body, add
Speaker 1: a plastic bead, and then tie the hook of your
Speaker 1: choice to the end of that line in the water.
Speaker 1: The combination of those big wings and the freedom of
Speaker 1: the lure has to twist and turn on the line
Speaker 1: creates a wide side to side wobbling action that I
Speaker 1: call like an odd cross between a traditional spoon and
Speaker 1: a chatter bait. It swims in kind of an arc,
Speaker 1: waddling up one direction before dipping back down and waddling
Speaker 1: up the other. Tasmanian devils are very popular as trolling lures,
Speaker 1: but the smaller sizes are extremely castable. In fact, much
Speaker 1: like a spoon, they fly far. At least in the
Speaker 1: videos I've seen. You can also vertically jigitazi. They were
Speaker 1: popularized in Tasmania and New Zealand as a trout lower,
Speaker 1: and I got my hands on that rasta model from
Speaker 1: an old fan from down Under. Yet every time I
Speaker 1: go trout fishing, or small mouth fishing for that matter,
Speaker 1: even if the lor is in my bag, I don't
Speaker 1: tie it on, and before you know it, the day
Speaker 1: is over and I've fished my normal regiment of offerings.
Speaker 1: The earliest versions of the Tazzi devil were created by
Speaker 1: Eddie Wigston, and according to Wiggston's website, he and his
Speaker 1: son's tinkered with prototypes all through the nineteen sixties and
Speaker 1: it wasn't until nineteen seventy nine that the lord you
Speaker 1: can buy today when in a full commercial production, and
Speaker 1: point being they've been around man and they're certainly proven,
Speaker 1: so it's not a matter of me thinking the lure
Speaker 1: won't produce. For the longest time, I think I talked
Speaker 1: myself out of tying it on for fear of losing it.
Speaker 1: After all, you couldn't run too wally World for another one,
Speaker 1: and it was a gift from a fellow angler very
Speaker 1: very far away. But recently I've noticed something. Tasmanian Devils
Speaker 1: are gaining traction in the walleye seen these days. You
Speaker 1: can buy them on the website of Fish USA, and
Speaker 1: during a couple of visits to the Midwest over the summer,
Speaker 1: I happen to see Wigston's Tasmanian Devils hanging on tackle
Speaker 1: shop pegboards. So while it's a minor resolution, right, I
Speaker 1: valve to finally fish that damn thing this year because
Speaker 1: it's not catching anything in the package in the garage.
Speaker 1: I'll report back. But despite any other resolutions, you make
Speaker 1: two maybe at tie on some wacky ship you'd have
Speaker 1: never used before, even if only for a day or
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or just ten casts. So that's it for
Speaker 1: this week and for this year for that matter. Um
Speaker 1: It's been a tumultuous here for Ben, shall we say,
Speaker 1: But I would just like to close out by saying
Speaker 1: how happy I am that you Hayden are here. Man.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to two and doing some fresh cool
Speaker 1: ship with Bent and you. When I look back on
Speaker 1: things in one that I was like really exciting, I
Speaker 1: have this happy man. I like lie in bed at
Speaker 1: night at like you know, New Year's Eve or whatever,
Speaker 1: and I try and think of every like cool thing
Speaker 1: that happened to me that year, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: all the stuff that I was really proud and happy
Speaker 1: to be a part of. I try and keep the
Speaker 1: self loathing off the table that night. Uh. And this
Speaker 1: this is like got to be at least in the
Speaker 1: bottom of the top ten, right, It's higher than the
Speaker 1: bottom of the top ten. Man. I'm so I'm just
Speaker 1: so happy to be here. Man. It's uh, it is
Speaker 1: an honor and not something that I that I take
Speaker 1: for granted. But hey, look, speaking of fresh news ship,
Speaker 1: don't forget folks that we're dropping our first listener Q
Speaker 1: and a segment next week. We want to hear it
Speaker 1: from you, So keep those questions coming to Bent at
Speaker 1: the Mediator dot com. Along with all those bar nominations,
Speaker 1: sale bin items, awkward photos, and whatever else you feel
Speaker 1: like sending. Yes, and keep those Degenerate Angler and Bent
Speaker 1: podcast hashtags cranking on Instagram. We see them all and
Speaker 1: like them all. Yes we do. And let's let's let
Speaker 1: us just say thanks so much for listening to Ben
Speaker 1: this year, right. Nothing makes us happier than hearing from
Speaker 1: you guys about how we enhance your Friday's, your drive
Speaker 1: to and from work, or how you're actually listening to
Speaker 1: Bent and you're supposed to be answering calls to the
Speaker 1: emergency medical center. Um, don't do that, but please do
Speaker 1: have a happy New year, degenerates and go gear up
Speaker 1: to the right