WEBVTT - Ep. 73: Ball Drops and Salmon Alibis

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<v Speaker 1>Do at least a little something irresponsible like light off

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<v Speaker 1>an m A D at midnight and rattle the neighbors windows.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. I just want to point

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<v Speaker 1>out I never introduced myself like, Hey, I'm Marty. The party.

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<v Speaker 1>One guy had a rain jack and they're switching hats.

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<v Speaker 1>They had it figured out that nobody was gonna know

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<v Speaker 1>that they weren't fishing for three days. You know those

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<v Speaker 1>Bass Pro Shop hats. I think I'm going to like

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<v Speaker 1>start wearing those more in like posts. Good morning, degenerate anglers,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to Bent, the fishing podcast that recently replaced

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<v Speaker 1>all the tubes on its beer helmet, because tonight all

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<v Speaker 1>it wants to do is I'm Joe Surmellie, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Hayden Samac and uh Joe, Do I sense a rager tonight? No? No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. Actually, I'll be enjoying a quiet evening

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<v Speaker 1>in slippers. But I mean it is New Year's Eve,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really ever you've ever said, Yeah, that's that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I just figured, look, this is the only time I

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<v Speaker 1>can ever get away with with theming a show entirely

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<v Speaker 1>around Andrew w K. No, did you know Joe that uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Comedian Burt Kreisher is adamant that Andrew w K doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually like to party them like he he was like

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<v Speaker 1>adamant about He didn't have like a sketch about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but like he had mentioned in one of his podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>that he tried to have a beer with him and

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, oh no, man, I'm good and he

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<v Speaker 1>drank like a quarter of the beer and I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be shocked. Did you know? There's also a

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy you can watch those videos that claims Andrew w

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<v Speaker 1>K doesn't actually exist, like he's not a real person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I swear it. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the Mattress Firm thing, only cooler. Um. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so I also follow the Hard Times on Instagram right

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<v Speaker 1>and one of my favorite ye oh my god, so

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<v Speaker 1>good and one of my favorite headlines of their's was

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<v Speaker 1>aging Andrew w K declines Facebook party invite, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was genius. Um. Oh yeah. I also saw

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<v Speaker 1>him open for Aerosmith once and I was the only

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<v Speaker 1>guy in Madison Square Garden that both knew who he

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<v Speaker 1>was and was excited to see him anyway, anyway. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, look, you're you're pretty, You're you're young and

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<v Speaker 1>pretty untethered. What are you doing for New Year's I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just assume there's a vote collusion involved, would I be right? Oral? As? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, some listeners know I've I've lived kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a another life, and at one point that might have

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<v Speaker 1>been true, man, um, but you know I don't wanna

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<v Speaker 1>afford a VOD collusion anymore. Right, Yeah, well, you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that uh, I think it might be taking

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<v Speaker 1>it easy to My girlfriend and I were going to

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<v Speaker 1>the East Coast for the holidays, and I'll tell you what,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're with her parents, it's certainly not going to

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<v Speaker 1>uh not going to be a vo not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a party. I'd say, well, if we're with my parents,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get wine drunk. But I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>it was. I was going to play out and your

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<v Speaker 1>parents got a case of Josh Sellers or something, boxing

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<v Speaker 1>wine whatever. Anyway, listen, no matter no matter how you're partying,

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<v Speaker 1>that's supposed to mean. Man, I don't know, I'm broke.

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<v Speaker 1>My parents aren't fair enough, fair enough no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>you're partying though, right, I feel we we at least

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<v Speaker 1>have to say do it responsibly, please, And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not partying like me and apparently Hayden, do at least

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<v Speaker 1>a little something irresponsible like laid off an M A

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<v Speaker 1>D at midnight and rattle the neighbors windows. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Yeah, Um, you know, speaking of responsibility,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that the end of the year is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the time to take stock of your many interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and circuitous life decisions and perhaps make a resolution on

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<v Speaker 1>the way you might carry yourself forward to that end.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you a resolutions person? Joe? You know this came

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<v Speaker 1>up last year and and nothing's changed. I am, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't share them publicly, right Like, I make a

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<v Speaker 1>little deal with myself and then when I fail myself,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no one to yell at me other than myself perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>So it works out. Joe's strategy to success kiddos, a

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<v Speaker 1>lack of accountability exactly, That's what That's how you gotta be.

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<v Speaker 1>Um I do. However, I have one fishing related resolution

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<v Speaker 1>that I am happy to share. Um No, not not kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take my kids fishing more in two

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not that I don't now right, because I

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<v Speaker 1>love taking my kids fishing. But to be honest, like

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<v Speaker 1>free time for me is precious right now. Like you,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a lot more of it than I do.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you have that day to get out, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very easy to talk myself out of blue gills and catfish,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, and like packing up loads

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<v Speaker 1>of fruit snacks and show and talking myself into doing

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<v Speaker 1>the grown up stuff that I want to do. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm promising myself that I'm gonna do that less this year,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it means I have to miss a few

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<v Speaker 1>more opportunities, um, you know, to do the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fishing I really want to do. How about you, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Any any resolutions that you're willing to share at least? Yeah? Man, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that I want to get myself

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<v Speaker 1>into like alpine lake shape. We have this one scale

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<v Speaker 1>at the Mediator office that we use to, uh when

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<v Speaker 1>we're planning trips or whatever. We got to weigh the

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<v Speaker 1>gear because we take it on a bunch of flights

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. I stepped on that thing, man, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what. I'm still hoping that scales broke. Oh God, please, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I would kill to be built like you are you nuts? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a that's a that's a fine resolution though, man

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<v Speaker 1>like I'll probably never see an alpine lake. Um you

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<v Speaker 1>after listening, also, you should probably resolve to get yourself

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<v Speaker 1>some gear in two from our sponsors, thirteen Fishing, and

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<v Speaker 1>there I just went in for the quick, hard sell, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even dance around that. But I really do

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank thirteen for being part of BENT and

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<v Speaker 1>supporting this this year. We're so proud to have them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we genuinely love their gear, and they're a great

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<v Speaker 1>group of people. Glad to have him here. A great

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<v Speaker 1>group of party people, I hear. I've heard that thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>Fishing knows how to party, and of course there are

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<v Speaker 1>lots of ways to party. Right back in the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a house party guy on New Year's I hosted.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad would would clear out and give us the

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<v Speaker 1>house as long as nobody drove. He's like, do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want, just nobody leaves. Um. But also I know

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<v Speaker 1>people that that like, just go to the local bar

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<v Speaker 1>for New Year's. I know people that buy tickets to

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<v Speaker 1>those all inclusive club parties. You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like at a hotel or something. It's weird. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to school at Tampa briefly, and and down there there

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<v Speaker 1>were a bunch of kids running around with way too

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<v Speaker 1>much money. And one year one of them rented out

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<v Speaker 1>a strip club, private thing. I lived at an international dorm,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, there was some oil money there, oil money many.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never known anybody who could rent an entire place out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did almost get suckered once into paying whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it was a hundred bucks to go to one for

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<v Speaker 1>a private Super Bowl party. Um, and I passed. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not really my scene, tell you the truth. But we

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<v Speaker 1>know a guy that knows some guys that wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>passed on that kind of party. Right, So let's shift

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<v Speaker 1>into Smooth Moves, our segment where we let guides and

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<v Speaker 1>captain's vent about ridiculous things their clients have done and

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<v Speaker 1>talk to my old friend, Captain Frank Campbell about an

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<v Speaker 1>unforgettable photo shoot. Why joining us today for Smooth Moves,

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<v Speaker 1>My very good friend, Captain Frank Campbell from Louis to

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<v Speaker 1>New York. What's going on, Frank? How are you? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Not too much? Joe, just enjoying the weather, great day.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of snow. You know, nothing crazy going on

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<v Speaker 1>around here. So what is the weather up there? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I was just there, which is why we're doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>because you actually told me a story while I was

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<v Speaker 1>fishing for steelhead with you on the Niagra Um and

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<v Speaker 1>we got lucky. It was pretty mild. Has it gotten cold?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Is it more true to form up there

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Well? Actually it got windy ergs you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it could, it's crazy. I mean I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm going to give up the fishing business and

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<v Speaker 1>starting a fight flying service or something, because, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>got windier than the fifty miles an hour we dealt with.

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<v Speaker 1>We dealt with sixty winds on Monday. It's that. The

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<v Speaker 1>problem is it keeps going from cold to warm while

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<v Speaker 1>cold can't can't you know, figure out what it wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do here like a lot of people, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with dirty water, clean water, winds, snow, rain,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we we caet all four seasons in the

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<v Speaker 1>same day. Sometimes yeah, yeah, no for sure. So just

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<v Speaker 1>just remind me how many years you lived up there

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<v Speaker 1>your whole life, right, how many years you've been guiding

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<v Speaker 1>on the Niagara I've lived up here in my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been guiding going on thirty one thirty two years,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's been but a long stretch, no doubt about it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So before we get into this story, we we have

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<v Speaker 1>to we have to set we have to set something

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<v Speaker 1>up very quickly, sort of established something and um man, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to hear from our Canadian listeners. But that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. Part of the conversation that we were having

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<v Speaker 1>that led to this story when you and I are fishing, Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>was that the strip club scene across the border in

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<v Speaker 1>Canada is a little different, generally speaking than here in

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<v Speaker 1>the States. Right. Uh, that's not that I know personally,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh yeah, well in my younger years, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. It was it was on the way to

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<v Speaker 1>debate shop. You had to stop, she did, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I picked up, but yeah, it would have been rude

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<v Speaker 1>not to. Yeah. But but but I think and we're

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<v Speaker 1>certainly not going to get explicit, but like, um uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they can wear a lot less over there. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like a little bit looser kind of vibe. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. You're gonna say a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of them forget are folding right? Yeah, yes, got it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I I also have never been to a strip

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<v Speaker 1>club across the border. I'm not really a strip club guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, this is something in fishing maybe in hunting too,

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<v Speaker 1>that you hear a lot about. Like, oh man, the

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<v Speaker 1>strip clubs up in Canada are crazy. So obviously where

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<v Speaker 1>you fish is right on the border. All the bridges

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<v Speaker 1>are right there. You can throw a rock and hit Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>So's it's important to understand that, so that we get

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<v Speaker 1>the full scope of this story. Now, how long ago

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<v Speaker 1>did this happen? It was probably fifteen years ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say, some somewhere in that range. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>take us from the beginning what happened, you know, and uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just we'll just let it, We'll let it roll, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So as it always, you know, we're booking a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of trips for salmon and the fall, and I happened

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<v Speaker 1>to book these, uh three three guys to come in

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<v Speaker 1>and they booked three days for salmon Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of during the peak time of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>but that time of the year were balls to the all,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fishing every day fishing twice a day, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's really where we make our money. So anyways, these

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<v Speaker 1>guys booked these three days and they show up in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning for the Friday morning trip and they're like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>coming on. I'm like, guys, you really don't need a cooler.

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<v Speaker 1>We have something to keep the fishing. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>live well if you want to keep no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not for that. We got our clothes in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wow, that's a big cooler, right, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a hundred fifty court YETI type thing yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like yeah, like okay, you know, we'll make room

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Not a problem, you need to close. So

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<v Speaker 1>they get the cooler, put it on, we go up fishing,

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<v Speaker 1>and within half an hour, man, we're bam, we got

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<v Speaker 1>our first fish on. Catch it. It's a nice, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty pound king, and the guys are all excited. Guy

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<v Speaker 1>holds it up, you know, takes a picture with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Next thing, you know, budd he's taking a turn taking

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<v Speaker 1>a picture with it. Then as other buddies taking a

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<v Speaker 1>picture with it, I'm like, what are these do is doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And now they're saying hold on a minute. I said well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get hold on a minute, we want to get

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<v Speaker 1>some more pictures. Next thing you know, they're pulling clothing

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<v Speaker 1>out of their cooler and changing and saying, can you

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<v Speaker 1>turn the boat so we can get the bridge in

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<v Speaker 1>the background. All three of them change their clothing. They

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<v Speaker 1>rain jackets on, and I'm like, whatever, I'm not thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about anything. They do this, and they take like two

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<v Speaker 1>sets of clothing each. I think, I know what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys are like, hey, you know, let's go back fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>We go back, we touch another one, same exact thing happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what are you guys doing. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the fish, but they say, you know, we'll keep Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're keeping them. It goes on. We touched like three

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<v Speaker 1>or four fish the guys, which which is an average

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<v Speaker 1>day that time of the year, and they're happy. I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Were going about one o'clock and I go to clean

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<v Speaker 1>the fish, and after I clean them, they're like, uh, Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>just let you know we're not gonna fish the next

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, what, guys, this is like prime time. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna pay you, but we're not gonna fish. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like Okay, I'll take that. You know, they're gonna pay

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<v Speaker 1>me full rate, not gonna fish. Frank gets to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>in there in a time of the year. All good.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, we caught enough today that we were

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<v Speaker 1>able to take enough pictures. We're going to the strip clubs.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna stay right there for three days. Well, then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting two and two and two together and saying,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys took like twenty pictures of free fish, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, we got we got plenty of plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>photography to show to our wives, plenty of pictures. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna prove that we were here. Wasn't a gripping green,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an alibi. Yeah, that's all you. And also

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking these guys were premeditated and everything they did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was crazy because I'm the guys. The other guys

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<v Speaker 1>are like, Frank, what are you doing. You're over there

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<v Speaker 1>with like for five minutes with one fish. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to get some alibis. Basically, you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>the pretties guys, I mean, Joe thirty thirty some years,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot, but these guys went to extremes.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the one guy had a range jacket, the

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<v Speaker 1>other they're switching hats there. They had it figured out

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody was gonna know that they weren't fishing for

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<v Speaker 1>three days. I mean, you look at pictures, you'll be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at it. Can we go over the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the river. It was definitely well planned out,

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<v Speaker 1>and kudos to them. I mean they had been there

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<v Speaker 1>before the year before, and it must have taken three

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<v Speaker 1>d sixty five days to conceive this, uh plan, because

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, we're going here. We know a time

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Nude World goes on and you know, four thirtists,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what these guys are unbelievable. I'm not necessarily saying

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<v Speaker 1>I condone it, right, but it's pretty slick, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a lot of four thoughts again, until until

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<v Speaker 1>their wives start counting the spots on the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the salmon man. They're gonna be like, here's the other part.

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<v Speaker 1>And after you told me this story, I was like

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<v Speaker 1>blown away. And then I started thinking about it and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, they actually took it to another level because

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<v Speaker 1>why would they pay you full rate for two days

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not fishing unless the funds on the credit

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<v Speaker 1>card or whatever also have to match the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>days they stayed. That's because I was like, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they gave me a check, Joe. I think they

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<v Speaker 1>ended up giving me a check for the days, and

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<v Speaker 1>the guys like, what are you talking about. We got

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<v Speaker 1>the guy to receipt here, we got the check canceled cash.

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<v Speaker 1>They had everything figured out. I mean, they weren't going

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<v Speaker 1>to leave something, you know, to uh, hey, why did

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<v Speaker 1>this end? No, they were they had everything. It was,

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was ingenious. I would have hired these

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<v Speaker 1>guys to murder someone if I was. They had it

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<v Speaker 1>all cover. You know. There's definitely a resolution message wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up in that, like some totally yeah, I mean, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>some good party buys, but also like maybe resolving not

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<v Speaker 1>to be shady with with the mrs would be a

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<v Speaker 1>good one. Yeah, yeah, I agree. The premeditation in that

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<v Speaker 1>is insane and uh it's it's like one of those

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<v Speaker 1>stories where if you say, um, if you only harness

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<v Speaker 1>that brain power for something good, you know what I mean,

0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Like the world might be a better place if you

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<v Speaker 1>put that much forethought into something good. Anyway, we're about

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<v Speaker 1>to harness our brain power, though barely one last time

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<v Speaker 1>in the year one to bring you the fish related

0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.120
<v Speaker 1>stories dropping harder than the ball in time square. This

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<v Speaker 1>is fish news. Fish news. That escalated quickly. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's kick out this news jam. Um. We don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have much housekeeping other than wanting to mention that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Several listeners reached out in regard to last week's show,

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<v Speaker 1>which of course featured a riveting interview with Santa Claus

0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.159
<v Speaker 1>and wanted to know. I wanted to know why he

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<v Speaker 1>sounded so much like Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't I wasn't sure what to say. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like both of them spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time in isolated locations. It's dark and cold. Yeah, Um,

0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.840
<v Speaker 1>anybody who spent enough time out in like real cold

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<v Speaker 1>weather like that knows what. You know, you can dry

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<v Speaker 1>out your skin, so I think put the motion on

0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:40.760
<v Speaker 1>their skin. It's starting to get dark, sorr. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that pretty much sums it up.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can stop asking that. Hayden just figured it out.

0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:46.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, you get a little ashy, you need a

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<v Speaker 1>little lotion, you know what I mean. Anyway, UM, we

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<v Speaker 1>should probably try and get ted Levin on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes maybe he fishes. He's one of the most underrated

0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.880
<v Speaker 1>actors ever, you know what I mean, So I would

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<v Speaker 1>just ask him to say Buffalo bill lines. Um. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>friendly reminder news, here is a competition, Heyden and I

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<v Speaker 1>do not know which story the other guy has grabbed.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and at the at the end, our resident noisemaker

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<v Speaker 1>audio engineer Phil will declare one of us a winner.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's my lead this week. So unless you

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<v Speaker 1>you have anything else to add, I'll get started here.

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<v Speaker 1>Get on with the Joe. Yeah, I know people want

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<v Speaker 1>to go party, so let's just move it along. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>as we close out begin a new year, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>gonna help you twice with my story today. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make you more fashion conscious and richer in one fell swoop.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that sound I'm gonna do it. I'm about to

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<v Speaker 1>So this story comes from the story comes from the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal, and um the headline, Lord, give me

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<v Speaker 1>strength to read. This is how a six dollar bass

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<v Speaker 1>pro Shops hat became a fashion trend. Nice? Nice you know? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>This is honestly this I've been noticing for about how long,

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a year or so well. See that

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<v Speaker 1>just tells you we we look at I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some different things online, like because I have not really

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<v Speaker 1>been noticing this and then this story hit and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wtf is happening here. Here's how the story begins.

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<v Speaker 1>Direct quote from the story. Jesse Alvarado doesn't fish or hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wouldn't describe himself as an outdoorsy person, but

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<v Speaker 1>on many mornings, Mr Alvarado, a restaurant worker in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>plops a Bass Pro Shops Trucker hat on his head.

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<v Speaker 1>To Mr Alvarado, it's just a good looking hat. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a simple design, like you can throw it on with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, Yes, my hatred will grow as the piece

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<v Speaker 1>goes on. Anyway, According to John Paul Morris that's the

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<v Speaker 1>son of Bass Pro Shops founder Johnny Morris, uh BPS

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<v Speaker 1>has definitely noticed the run on the trucker hat with

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<v Speaker 1>the classic BPS logo, the vintage one with the jumping bass. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't specify how much of a sales increase they've

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<v Speaker 1>seen with these hats, but I'm betting it's pretty staggering,

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<v Speaker 1>right because part of the charm of these hats is

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<v Speaker 1>that they only cost six bucks, and these days it's

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<v Speaker 1>not uncommon for the hats to be completely sold out,

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<v Speaker 1>both in store and online. In fact, there's so popular

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<v Speaker 1>that Fashion East is shall we say, routinely check the

0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.800
<v Speaker 1>BPS website and there are even rings where where the

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<v Speaker 1>members tip each other off to when they'll be restocked

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can get the hats. Right. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>why the rush to hoard them? What's the big deal? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the part where I help your financials in two

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<v Speaker 1>because I'd be willing to bet some of you probably

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.879
<v Speaker 1>have this hat listening right now right It's it's a

0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 1>classic hat. According to the story, people are flipping the

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.879
<v Speaker 1>six dollar Bass Pro Shop trucker hat for up to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks a pop on eBay right now because they

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<v Speaker 1>have become hard to get commodity. And as I understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>you could flip a new one. You could flip one

0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.040
<v Speaker 1>that you've sweated in on on Lake of the O's

0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Arks for the last twenty years. Both will sell. You

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.480
<v Speaker 1>might get more for this for the sweaty one. Oh man, Yeah, dude,

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.480
<v Speaker 1>nothing more that hipsters like than like provenance. There's not

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<v Speaker 1>even hipsters really, man, It's like, Joe, are you familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the term boy. Yeah, yeah, I am. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know like the full definition, but I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>it thrown around. It's just like kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like gen Z millennial, Like toolbag is what

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<v Speaker 1>that basically comes from. I like it. I'll start using

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that more now that you've explained it. It is the

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<v Speaker 1>same negative connotation of a hipster, but it's more widely

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<v Speaker 1>applied to like jockey sort of folks. Got it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure if it's going to make it to the

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.720
<v Speaker 1>podcast listeners now, you know, no, no, no, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think, I I you know where I

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<v Speaker 1>heard the term I don't want to get off. There

0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.440
<v Speaker 1>was the thing on Instagram. It was like a comedy

0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.120
<v Speaker 1>thing out of California called Cherdley's. Does that ring a bell?

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:06.080
<v Speaker 1>M m? Maybe I haven't seen it in a while,

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.840
<v Speaker 1>but they used to use that term. Anyway, we'll move on.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll move on here. Um, but this this gives me

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<v Speaker 1>an idea. I'm gonna bring it up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>later in this podcast. But I have an idea that

0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I think you might like. Okay, okay, So the article

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<v Speaker 1>tries to break down exactly why these hats have become

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:23.120
<v Speaker 1>so trendy and the reasons very This is going back

0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.480
<v Speaker 1>to the story. Patrick Simms, a thirty four year old

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<v Speaker 1>account manager at a marketing agency in Austin, said the

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<v Speaker 1>caps bring him back to high school. Okay, that's cool,

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<v Speaker 1>no issue that He says he went to BPS with

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<v Speaker 1>his father back in the day and has fond memories

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Also cool, nothing, that's that's great. But then

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:44.080
<v Speaker 1>he says the hats also make him think of resurgent

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:47.360
<v Speaker 1>fashion trends in the aughts, and I hate that term.

0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.920
<v Speaker 1>In the aughts when celebs like Paris Hilton and Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Timberlake helped popularize trucker hats. Oh yeah, like the von

0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Dutch Von Dutch exactly. Mr Sims to BPS hats satisfy

0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:02.840
<v Speaker 1>his NEStalgia on two fronts, personal and pop cultural. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to clarify um that it was not

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Paris Hilton or Justin timber Lake that popularize the mess

0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>trucker hat. I think the o G people listening will

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<v Speaker 1>agree with me that it became popular well before them,

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<v Speaker 1>well before the odds, way back ninety four, when one

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 1>was worn by Sea Bass in Dumb and Dumber. That

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>is what popularized the trucker had and I would love

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to remind everybody what Sea Basses Hat said, but I

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<v Speaker 1>won't on the show. Uh So then we have right

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<v Speaker 1>then we have twenty eight year old John Wright, who

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<v Speaker 1>is an entrepreneur and an actual hunter based in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not familiar with him, but I assume he has

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<v Speaker 1>a TikTok following because he says, um, on TikTok, it's

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 1>all you see. It's every different color hat. You see

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the trucker hat everywhere. I'm not on TikTok, so I

0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. So that was new information to me,

0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that idea that I told you about in the beginning. Uh,

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:58.440
<v Speaker 1>my girlfriend is on TikTok, and we have talked before

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:03.600
<v Speaker 1>about the bass pro trucker hat trend. Really this has

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.439
<v Speaker 1>come up in conversation at home. Well yep, and I

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 1>asked her about it in this exact context. Why are

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<v Speaker 1>all these boys wearing these trucker hats? Um? I think? Yeah.

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>My idea was, why don't we give her a call

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<v Speaker 1>real quick? Oh my god, do it right now. I'm

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell her that I that I want to get

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of these trucker hats and we'll see what

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>she says. It's the news first. Hey, um, Joe and

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 1>I have been talking about how like we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>connect um more with like that we're trying to get

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>like the fishing audience, and we're trying to get a

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:48.320
<v Speaker 1>younger demographic, and like part of the way we're doing

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that is like social media ship and you know those

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Bass Pro Shop hats. Yes, I think I'm gonna like

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 1>start wearing those more in like posts. Okay, why are

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>you telling me this? I just wanted to know what

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you thought about like those hats. I think they're stupid looking.

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Why because they look do? She? We like? What? What

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>do you? What do you mean? I don't know. It

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>just reminds me of like a frat bro and I'm

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>not about it. Okay, Um, Joe, do you have any

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>uh what I said? Thanks for that, but we need

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<v Speaker 1>to continue on with news now. For cutting into the

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>party time, Joe said, thank you for that, but we're

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>getting on with news now. Okay, great, Joe, Okay, bye.

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Do She was not It's not It wasn't one of

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 1>the words I was gonna use, but she said it

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 1>not me, So you know, and let me tell you what.

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Frat boy is only four letters away from boys, So

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:59.080
<v Speaker 1>you know anyway, all right, so let's let's let's get

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>out of this right. Uh, the story continues. The trendiness

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>of this has confounded some long time loyalists of the brand.

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Adrian Williams, twenty six, And this is gonna be my

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>favorite one. This is the last guy from the story

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about. But you have to

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<v Speaker 1>hear this one. Adrian Williams, twenty six, of Raleigh, North Carolina,

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>has older family members and peers who grew up hunting

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 1>and shopping at Bass Pro. Ask him, why are you

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.159
<v Speaker 1>using the hats as a fashion statement. Mr Williams, an

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 1>account executive, explained that he likes the shape of the

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>hats and the array of colors. He grew up hunting

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and now legs to pair the hats with Chelsea boots

0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:40.280
<v Speaker 1>and skinny jeans. All right, I like Chelsea boots. How

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>did I know you were going to say that? I

0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't even know what Chelsea boots were, or at least

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that's what those slip on boots were called.

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know they were called Chelsea boots. But for

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>anybody else who didn't know, here's a quick explanation of

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>them from YouTube channel Real Men, Real Style. In fact,

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:57.880
<v Speaker 1>if we were to use a car analogy, those work

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 1>boots are a truck. This an suv built on a

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>car chassis in a nutshell. It makes them versatile, but

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 1>they're really at home in the city. So dude, I

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>cannot like whatever quick story. When I was in college,

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>trucker hats were the thing. I never wore them, and

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>not because I didn't read them. I know I didn't,

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's not because I didn't like them. I just

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of didn't wear hats for like fashion. I wore

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>ball caps when I went fishing. I wore hats when

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I fished, but I never wore one a class or

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.159
<v Speaker 1>like out to the bar. Really, I'm nowadays, I just

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.199
<v Speaker 1>want to hide my mostly salt with a splash of

0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>pepper hair, so I wear a hat all the time.

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.199
<v Speaker 1>But back then, all the hats I owned said like

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>fish Pond, Betty and Nick's baiton Tackle, the feathered hook

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>fly Shop, dorky ship, like you can't wear that to

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>a party. Um, But I remember seeing this particular bass

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>pro shops hat back then, and I was like, that's

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>my hat. It's a cool trucker hat and supports my

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>fishing jones. And shortly after deciding to get one, I

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 1>saw two in the same night at a house party

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>where like Chevelle was playing very loudly, and I was like,

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.399
<v Speaker 1>you know what, never mind, right, But I don't know.

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Then it seemed like the whole trucker hat thing died,

0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 1>so I'd say the dudes that kept wearing them were

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.520
<v Speaker 1>more likely to be anglers and you know that just

0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:13.359
<v Speaker 1>thought they were a cool hat. But now after this,

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's it's it's like, if you're one

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of those people that loved him, like we regret to

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>inform you that it's not cool for your girlfriend. It's

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 1>douche at least not you know, it's not cool for

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>hardcore fisherman. So I don't know. I feel like it's

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>almost more knu a Salt Life sticker now, So spell

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>that ship on eBay if you got it, get your

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 1>money and buy a few packs of Sanko's instead Bass

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Pro Shops hats. There you go. Oh and one more thing.

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Listener Glenn Cranefeld sent me a link to an op

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>ed piece about this hat and it was written by

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Matt Labash that I highly recommend you guys read. It's

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>called bass holes. So just google bass holes plus Labash.

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>That's l A B A s H and enjoy that.

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Moving on from bass pros to robo bass. Uh. This

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<v Speaker 1>week in fish news, we have a very strange development

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>in the fight to combat invasive species. Uh. Scientists saw this.

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I saw this, and I was gonna grab it next

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.200
<v Speaker 1>week if you didn't grab it this week. This is

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>a good one. Yeah. Yeah, So scientists have been developing

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>a robotic large mouth bass to learn more about the

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>impact of fear on the invasive mosquito fish. Before we

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>got ahead of ourselves here and into what everyone wants

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.479
<v Speaker 1>to hear about that being the robo bass, we need

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>to have a little like ecology lesson and get to

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>know the mosquito fish. The mosquito fish is like a

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 1>It's a small fresh water speci It only gets about

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>like an inch and a half two inches long that

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.320
<v Speaker 1>was introduced to water bodies across the world as like

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a means to combat mosquito born illnesses by controlling mosquito populations.

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Hence their name they pray a lot on mosquitoes um.

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>There are some instances of this working, that being the

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>introduction of mosquito fish um, most notably in Sochi, where

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>there's actually a statue of a mosquito fish commemorating its

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:15.160
<v Speaker 1>role in eradicating malaria on the nearby Black Sea coast.

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>No way that really worked out there. I didn't know that.

0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Fun fact, Wait, it seems to It seems too. I

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 1>mean like there are various, like you know, factions of

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like the scientific community who were like that worked really well,

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and then there are others like that did not work

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>as well as you might think, and it was probably

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>some other ship. These drugs we developed worked even ben Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>they're pretty good. Unfortunately, the success of the introduction program

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>was limited, and instead many areas saw like negative impacts

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>caused by the introduced species, that being the mosquito fish. Ironically,

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the mosquito fish's presence often made the mosquito population increase.

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 1>And the reason that is is because they compete. Yeah,

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>they'd out compete native fish for like other food sources.

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>So the mosquito fishes don't just eat mosquitoes, they eat

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 1>other shot it, got it. They had options, so they

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>opted out of mosquitoes kind of right exactly, and that

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>led to crashes in native fish populations, and those native

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>fish would also eat mosquitoes. So if there are like

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>five fish, one of them being the mosquito fish, four

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>of them being other native species, those five species together

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>we're eating mosquitoes. Got it? I think? Yes, it's it's

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>a hard thing to unpack it and sort it out later. Yeah,

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Okay, Anyhow, now the moment

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>you've been waiting for, enter robo bass. The robo bass

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>is a horrifying like albino robot large mouth. I mean

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>this is just based on some of the pictures that

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I've seen of it, and scientists have been using it

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 1>to scare the ship out of the mosquito fish in aquariums.

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>It's as an experiment, it kind of cracks me up.

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>As I kind of touched on for half a second

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>in the opening, scientists are using the robots learning exactly

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>what happens when the mosquito fish are exposed to fear.

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>By building a robot replica of one of their like

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>most voracious predators, that being the large mouth, scientists are

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>able to scare the mosquito fish in the control setting,

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and then observe the physiological and behavioral changes the mosquito

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>fish exhibit in just six weeks of exposure. They've noted

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>that the mosquito fish has basically become a nervous wreck,

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>losing weight in acting like just not relaxed. Importantly, they've

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 1>noticed two physiological changes that could spell success for the

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>future of mitigation efforts. One the females get skinnier, and

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>two the male sperm production is cut in half. Mm hmm. Right,

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>so it's having major impacts on the reproduction viability of

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>the mosquito fish theoretically in a tank environment right now,

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, right, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So I

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>mean this is all proof of concept, right, and that's

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna get to in a second year. So

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.520
<v Speaker 1>what is the future of the robo bass. Well, you're

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>not going to find a pawn by you getting like

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 1>a full on stocking of terminator fish anytime soon. Its

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>main purpose was proof of concept that being the fear

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>could result in the mosquito fish undergoing rapid negative physical

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>changes in response to a stressor. To that end, scientists

0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>are looking at other more logistically feasible methods of stressing

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.640
<v Speaker 1>out these fish, such as predator sense. Now that the

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>concept has been proven to work, so this is super fascinating. Um.

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And just to be clear, what they're basically saying is

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>they're developing these robo bass, right theoretically, you could put

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 1>them in an environment with mosquito fish, okay, and they're

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna stress those fish out to sort of keep them

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>in check. But the robo bass obviously isn't going to

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>eat the mosquito fish so that they can keep eating mosquitoes.

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Is that the point? Because otherwise, why wouldn't you just

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:12.960
<v Speaker 1>throw a bunch of large mouth in the pond if

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 1>they don't have them, Other than the fact that they'll

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>then eat the mosquito fish, the robo bats, in my

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>understanding of it, is used specifically in these controlled environments

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:27.360
<v Speaker 1>to prove that like stress will result in like a

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>decrease in reproduction viability of the mosquito fish. Right. So

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the end the end goal then is not like we're

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna make these things and if you have a mosquito

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>fish problem by a robo bass, throw it in. That's

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>got it. That's not it. Although I bet you this

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>is going to result in some sort of like crazy

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>like articulated crank bait. What this is really meant to

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>do is just to prove the concept that the react

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>to fear in this way. And obviously like it's not

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>viable to go put a robot in, like all these

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 1>bodies of water were several robots and all these bodies

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>of water. No, no, of course you wouldn't. And plus

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't I don't know how long they've

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 1>been doing this, but I mean fish aren't as dumb

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>as we think. Eventually that my guess is in the

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 1>controlled environment, they'll stop being nervous because they'll realize it's

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>not going to come over and eat them, you know

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Yeah, I mean they do have the

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>thing program to like lunge at the mosquito fish like

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it threatens them in like a very like immediate sort

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>of way. Um. But yeah, like I said, the whole

0:35:32.200 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>thing is just proof of concept in the controlled setting.

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>And I think what they're really leaning on is, um,

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, things like predator sense, got it, you know,

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>And that would kind of do two things. One, it

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>would still allow them to like you know, put this

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>stressor into the mosquito fish's habitat. But also, you know

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>when you said why not put a bunch of you know,

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.640
<v Speaker 1>why not stock these spots with a bunch of large mouth?

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>A lot of these spots like should not be stocked

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.439
<v Speaker 1>with large mouth for instance. Um, they have a big

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 1>problem with mesquite to fish in Australia. And I think

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>per our conversation with Karl Jocobson, there are not currently

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.799
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of large mouth around Australia. No, they don't

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 1>need them down there. They got way cooler fish than that.

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Why you want to go, you know, throw a lay

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 1>mass bass down there with all them Murray CODs and stuff. Yeah, anyhow,

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll be at the mercy of fill the engineer,

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah we will. I just have to say, though, my

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>biggest takeaway from your story, I just I want one

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:37.320
<v Speaker 1>of the robot bass from my kid. Like there's already

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 1>a crank bait that kind of does that, but like,

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:40.919
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, he'd have a ball with that, throw

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that that ship in the bathtub, he'd have a field day. Um. Anyway,

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:46.439
<v Speaker 1>I cut you off, Well, yes we're going to fill

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>for final judgment. Um, and I'm sure he's he's probably

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>squeaking this in just minutes before the ball drops. So um, Phil,

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year, my friend and I I really hope

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you're not wearing a bass Pro Shops trucker hat right

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 1>now or else I'm screwed. I'm screwed in terms of judgment. Um.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:06.359
<v Speaker 1>And after we what are we doing after we hear

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.359
<v Speaker 1>from Phil? Oh, yeah, we're gonna go into a very

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>special edition of that's my bar, because that's right. It's

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>a roundtable with our dear friend and guide Marty a

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>k a. The Party. Ye. And by the way, if

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you notice that that Hayden's audio sounds a little off

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and this that's my bars because he was legit drunk

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>when we were recording and forgot to plug his mic

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 1>into the karaoke machine. Zero one zero zero one one

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 1>zero one zero. That's binary for Hayden. You're the winner

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>this week. You know, sometimes when I work from home

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not in the office, I leave behind an

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>albino robot version of myself just kind of prop him

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>up in my chair. It looks like a crash test

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>dummy with a two thousand seven zac Efron haircut. It's

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 1>been three months and Hayden still hasn't noticed, and I

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>think that might say more about me than it does him.

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Best God damn bar tender from Kim buck

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to to Portland's Maine Portland argument for that matter. So

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 1>we're doing kind of a special That's My Bar this

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>week free Form Jazz. That's My Bar. I guess it's

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a bar round table, if you will,

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>which is something that we've we've never done before. We've

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>always relied on on listeners to write in and tell

0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 1>us about their favorite fishing bars. But well we'll shake

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>it up. What the hell so so joining Hayden not today? Um,

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.959
<v Speaker 1>longtime friend of the program, Marty Ye Cross Current Guide Service.

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>He's been, He's been, You've been with You've been on

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>here many times now, Marty, Yes, A couple of least

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>yes that I know of, And it only seemed fitting

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>since we have a loose party theme for this episode

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that we have to invite you because your I G

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>handle is Marty a k A. The Party, So we can't, like,

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't have a party themed bent and not invite

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Marty a k A. The Party Now true, When when

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I was first introduced to Party, I was actually party.

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been calling a party Marty all week. It's fun. Yeah,

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I was introduced to him as Party Marty. I just

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 1>want to point out I never I don't think once

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>in my life have like introduced myself like, Hey, I'm

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Marty the Party. That name was getting to be here,

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 1>that name was given to me here on the Delaware,

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>like the guys are the guides around here? Just started

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 1>calling me that. Please expand because my next question was

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:31.080
<v Speaker 1>going to be how did you become Marty a k a.

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>The Party? It's so it's a probably based upon that.

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:40.360
<v Speaker 1>It rhymes a big deal to do with it. I

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>don't I don't know. When I first came on the

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Senior in the Delaware was a couple of people that

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm still friends with, um rhymed. I don't know. I

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>guess I just put off that vibe that I like

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to have fun, which I do in fairness, right, So

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.640
<v Speaker 1>for our Halloween episode, we didn't end up with a

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>photo of you and a shark costume passed out in

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>front of golf cart. That would have been like that

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>was like the traitive party Marty. So away I thought,

0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I thought this is what we would do, right, we

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.280
<v Speaker 1>always we always have listeners right in about their favorite bars.

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Um And when we kicked off this segment, when we

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>first started it many many moons ago, I actually talked

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>about one of my favorite bars on the Upper Delaware

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>where you are. It used to be Lyddy Is What

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the hell is it called? Now? I just keep calling

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>it liddy Is? I mean I still do too. It's

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>called Nick Breezes Crosstown Tavern. Yeah, are the are the

0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Are the fried mushrooms still as good there? Marty? You

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>know I don't eat mushrooms, So but I could, I could,

0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I could tell you what I normally get there is

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>still as good. But I mean it's nothing. It's wings party.

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Marty doesn't eat mushrooms. That almost doesn't make sense, you

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 1>know anyway, So you know, I think between the three

0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of us, we've been to enough divy joints in different

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 1>parts of the country. Maybe something close to home, and

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.479
<v Speaker 1>I just hiden and I thought we'd rap a little

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>bit about like what are just some of the most

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 1>memory a fishing bar that sticks out to you, whether

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 1>for a single experience or someplace that you visit all

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>the time. It's a roundtable. Marty and you're the guest,

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna let you go first. Don't let me

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 1>go first? Yes, all right, I mean you're in Marty

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.439
<v Speaker 1>a k. The party, so like we're like, we're gonna

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.879
<v Speaker 1>have a hard time following you up, I think, yeah,

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>so there's definitely there's definitely one bar. So there's one.

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>When I first got to the Delaware, Um, I came

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of with like nothing ish, like a hobo almost,

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>so I don't have much so yeah, yeah, what a

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of guides do, which I find is common even

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>now when they first start guiding somewhere in the minuterary,

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>they like you know they're there. They try to be

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.320
<v Speaker 1>as cheap as possible. So I was in a trailer.

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I decided to live in a trailer. Sure, so I

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 1>ended up through a body of mine at the Beaver Doll.

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's place is called I'm I might get crucified

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>for like giving this spot out, but it's not really

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.280
<v Speaker 1>a secret spot, but it's kind of a cool hangout.

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>So I had a trailer. So this is a place.

0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a campground, it's a bar restaurant combination

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>right on the Delaware. Is this on the East branch More. Yeah,

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>it's right where at the junction of where it's just

0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>just near where downriver of where the junction of the

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 1>beaver Kill and the Delaware meet. This this place is

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 1>just really cool and it's kind of like, I don't

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is the right phradge. It's

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the UM. When I was there, it

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.800
<v Speaker 1>was like the first starting like underground campground, like it

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:29.120
<v Speaker 1>just started, like it just opened for the last couple

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of years, so everyone was kind of new there. And

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that I still have friends that I

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>met there, and it just turns out there's just like

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guides and anglers, hardcore anglers that just camp,

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, most like I would say like fifteen percenteven

0:42:42.920 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>were guys that live there like throughout the week and

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>the whole during the season, and the rest are like

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>weekend guys who have like trailers on the river, like,

0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get this diverse mix of people like

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>old school fly tires, like guides, um, you know, like

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>just all walks of life. And there's a bar to

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and not to mention it's just like a really fun bar.

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>The people who own it and and run it They're amazing.

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I love them, and they're good to their customers and

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>they treat us again, it's just a fun place. So

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you can just imagine like me first coming to the

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Delaware trying to learn the ropes and I just get

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 1>thrown and this kind of like it's you know, an

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 1>underground e local diebee bar. I love it though, and uh,

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>just all these mix of people of different flight tires, anglers,

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>from all different experiences and just a really cool place.

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>Is it The kind of place though that like you

0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>have to be in with the family and then if

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:35.879
<v Speaker 1>you are the random dude that just strolls in there,

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you're like, you're not supposed to be there. I wouldn't

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 1>say that. I mean no, they're like I said, everyone's

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 1>friendly there. You know. It's see the irony the one

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:47.239
<v Speaker 1>that came to mind for me. I've only been there once,

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>but man, it really stuck with me. And also ironically,

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to Montana for a bar. Okay, it's not

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.879
<v Speaker 1>in Bozeman, don't get excited, Okay, but this was years ago.

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.280
<v Speaker 1>My first assignment for Field and Stream Ever in mont Hannah.

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>We ended up in a place called the Antlers Saloon

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in Wisdom, Montana. You heard of this, You're a liar,

0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I swear to God. Up in the Shields Valley. I

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:15.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's on the beats on the Big Hole.

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:20.520
<v Speaker 1>It's in Montana, man, far far west side, almost on

0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the Idaho border. Oh no, I have not been there's

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.439
<v Speaker 1>one with antlers in the Shields Valley because I burn

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.280
<v Speaker 1>hunt up there something. I bet you there's a bunch

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>with antlers in Montana and generals. But anyway, so it's

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>like this total honky tonk country joined on the side

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of the road and like it was me and my

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.600
<v Speaker 1>buddy from Jersey and we had no business being in

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>there right. Like it was that kind of place where

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>you felt like, obviously we're not from around here. I mean,

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:48.839
<v Speaker 1>there's a gas station in the antlers saloon and Wisdom.

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>But what it made it so memorable was you guys,

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>ever been in a dive bar where somebody sort of

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:57.120
<v Speaker 1>sidles up next to you and starts talking. And sometimes

0:44:57.160 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 1>that's cool, sometimes that's very cool, but sometimes the time

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>you're just like, please stop talking to me, and like

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>we must have just looked like baby faced, like not

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>from around here. And this straight up Montana cowboy, like

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>grizzled flannel shirt. He sat down next to us, and

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, by the end of the night he was

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:21.320
<v Speaker 1>begging us. He was he was giving us all his

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 1>girl troubles, his girlfriend troubles, and like begging us to

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 1>give him a ride back to Idaho. And then it

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 1>got really weird and at one point and he said

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of wacky ship. But at one point he's like,

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:32.760
<v Speaker 1>you give me your ride home. I'll show you some ears.

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what do you mean. I'm like, what do

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you mean you'll show us something's like ears. I'm like

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 1>human ears. He's like all right, And the dude just

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't shake us. But it was just it was like

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 1>so dusty and dingy in there. I don't know how

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you just moved on from there, didn't You didn't say like,

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, No, I didn't. I didn't really want to.

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted I just wanted to shake the dude.

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to shake the dude. And that was

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>that was That was like the Antler Saloon stuck with

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 1>me because of that guy, who likely if he hasn't

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:11.960
<v Speaker 1>passed away, it's probably still there almost every night, you

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 1>know what, I mean, but don't you wonder, Yeah, but

0:46:17.920 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>you're covering headphones how much you wonder your whole life?

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 1>Like what if I would have said, like, yeah, I

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 1>want to see your ears, so you would have gotten

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.280
<v Speaker 1>in the car with dude and just driven him across

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the border to Idaho through the mountains in the middle

0:46:31.239 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 1>of the night to go see his ears and his

0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>establishment what I'm saying like you just like moved on,

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:40.359
<v Speaker 1>like it was like all right, whatever, Well I didn't

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>quite go down like that, but I'm not gonna spend

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>an hour telling the whole saga. But I mean, I

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 1>remember that it was one of those guys where he

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 1>flim flamed, like he was in tears over his his

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:51.240
<v Speaker 1>woman leaving him. But then it would just shift into

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:53.319
<v Speaker 1>like his woman's waiting for him at home and like

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 1>we can go meet or two Like dude, dude, it

0:46:55.960 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>was just it was very all over there, very strange

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 1>that a very drunk person conversation man speaking in which

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:06.359
<v Speaker 1>you having a holiday party. Attle. I just wanted to lead.

0:47:06.400 --> 0:47:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I just want the listeners to know that Hayden is

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 1>mildly for this recording. Yeah, Phil, Phil who just popped in,

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 1>was feeding you cider and my ties or something right.

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 1>We have Phil's feeling good too, and chef Kevin Gillespie. Uh,

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 1>he made hot buttered rum. Phil made like a buttery nipple.

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Is that like a tour of a buttery nipple? I

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. It tastes like if you

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:35.280
<v Speaker 1>let's see, if you dropped your fruity rum drink into

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.319
<v Speaker 1>the into the butter that you're dipping your crab in.

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>That's what it tastes like. But a good time is

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 1>being had by A good time is being had by

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:48.080
<v Speaker 1>well me. Uh, we'll keep it going. What's your boss?

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 1>What's your round table? Bar? Where Marty and I have

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>most recently cross paths was out at an outfit or

0:47:56.000 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that I have mentioned on this podcast, I think a

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:03.000
<v Speaker 1>time or two before, owned by the folks that initially

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>introduced me to party Marty. Um, we met there and

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that's that's Sam Probably yeah, senate or over Outfitters and

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 1>now Senate over Outfitters. In addition to having lodging and

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:20.320
<v Speaker 1>a you know, a pretty good tackle shop. Great shot

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 1>by the way, really a good shot man. It's good

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you could ever want. As far as clothes, man, it's

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.359
<v Speaker 1>a good place to hang at um. Yeah, well I'm

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>saying they like it's a great shop too, that he

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 1>has everything as literally everything man has as he and

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that he were talking about is my buddy Chris Marty.

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Has Chris ever just run you out of house and

0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 1>home on the dartboard? Yes, oh my god, yes, I

0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:46.879
<v Speaker 1>lost two hundred dollars to him in a weekend one

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.040
<v Speaker 1>time playing. I don't have a smart enough I mean

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm terrible darts. I was smart enough, never bent money,

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>but I've played. Yeah, well you're smarter than I am

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 1>because she was the But anyhow, Senator for Outfitters also

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:01.880
<v Speaker 1>has a little bit of a greasy spoon and a

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 1>bar attached to it. Now, if you go down the steps,

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:06.919
<v Speaker 1>if you go go through the fish and lode down

0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:12.440
<v Speaker 1>the steps kind of takes the subterranean enclave. Yeah, exactly,

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:16.399
<v Speaker 1>it's all like naughty pine and like you know, just

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 1>would and they give you peanuts and you can throw

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the sh Don't they have don't they have them? Is

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 1>that maybe it's not them? Don't they have the money

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 1>all over the walls? Yeo, I was just getting to that. Now.

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 1>The main like you know, the main quality that this

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 1>bar has. The main characteristic is a few thousand bucks

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:39.839
<v Speaker 1>staple all over the wall and all sorts of just

0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:42.920
<v Speaker 1>drawn upon dollar bills. You know, I have one that

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I addressed George Washington up like Donald Trump with markers,

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and it says I'm gonna catch a steelhead. It's gonna

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.840
<v Speaker 1>be huge. Yeah, you know, I think there's one that

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:55.400
<v Speaker 1>has mind. It says Marty the Party on it. I

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:58.759
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't imagine it would say anything else. I'll tell you what, man,

0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that bar starts off. It was like a normal bar

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 1>where you buy your drinks and you to give you

0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 1>the drink, and you and you're drinking. And then by

0:50:07.000 --> 0:50:11.440
<v Speaker 1>bound ten o'clock at night, man, it is it is

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 1>no longer a normal bar. You're behind the kitchen, you're

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:17.399
<v Speaker 1>making yourself a cheese, yourself out of the well. Yeah,

0:50:17.520 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>they're like helping. We're too busy, you do. Like that

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:24.400
<v Speaker 1>happens often there. My takeaway from this this very slap together,

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>uh that's my bar round table, is that at some

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:30.319
<v Speaker 1>point down the road we should do Uh it was

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Hayden you mentioned it like an East Coast um bar crawl,

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:37.720
<v Speaker 1>fishing bars crawl and film that as it it should

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:41.080
<v Speaker 1>be a video series on the media YouTube channel. The

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>local watering hole is important to the fishing like culture,

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, yeah, so maybe, yeah, maybe maybe we'll

0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 1>get together and do that after the New Year. We'll

0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.440
<v Speaker 1>make that a goal and then maybe it expands out

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure everybody else could fill us in on

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 1>where to do the crawl in the Midwest and then

0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:58.799
<v Speaker 1>on the West Coast and then through the Rockies. I'll

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you what man doesn't see as I will participate

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 1>in anytime. Marty, thank you for bringing the party directly

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to Bent on New Year's What are you doing for

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>New Year's? Um? I think I'll be at my brothers

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and Massachusetts doing nothing. Actually, do you want to say

0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:17.400
<v Speaker 1>that again, because I assume the answer would be partying.

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna ruin your whole ship here partying. Yeah, your

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 1>headset makes you look like a stockbroker in two thousand

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and two trading right now. I got multiple screens. You

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:38.760
<v Speaker 1>guys don't know trading right now. So happy that Marty

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 1>could stop by for that little watering hole rap sessions.

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>It's always fun having Marty on. Um, it's even more

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 1>fun fishing with Marty. I know you guys have hung out.

0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever actually fished together, but yeah,

0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:52.799
<v Speaker 1>I say every time he's on, he's the best. Three

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:54.560
<v Speaker 1>of us. Need to fish together. That's the thing we

0:51:54.600 --> 0:51:57.640
<v Speaker 1>have to make happen. And and the bar crawl, both

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:01.120
<v Speaker 1>of those things. But maybe it's a good idea, um,

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:03.080
<v Speaker 1>And if you're listening, you know, put that in the

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>uh in the content ideas we do need to go

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:10.400
<v Speaker 1>hang out and fish with party Marty all jokes aside um,

0:52:10.120 --> 0:52:13.840
<v Speaker 1>And that dude is like like universally fishy, you know

0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:16.120
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. He's really good at all types of

0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:18.759
<v Speaker 1>fly fishing, from like drives to mice to nim thing.

0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:21.560
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you know, a jack of all trades. Yeah,

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:23.720
<v Speaker 1>and he really gets after it, man. Like he's fishing

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:26.480
<v Speaker 1>on his days off, dropping clients off in the evening

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and going back out mousing by himself. So if you

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:31.440
<v Speaker 1>live in the Northeast and one of your resolutions is

0:52:31.480 --> 0:52:33.520
<v Speaker 1>getting better at fly fishing, Marty is not a bad

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>guy to know, a good guy to contact. Yeah, he

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.839
<v Speaker 1>can help you out. Um now, now, well, well that's

0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>not a resolution of mind, you know, because I already

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 1>know everything about every type of fly fishing. I do

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:47.759
<v Speaker 1>have one more small fishing resolution, which i'll explain in

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:54.480
<v Speaker 1>this week's end of the line. Well, that's not loud enough.

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 1>In honor of the new year, and since we've already

0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>brought up resolutions, I'm gonna close out end of the

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 1>line for one talking about a lore I've never fished.

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:10.200
<v Speaker 1>I've just stared at it for about five years now.

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I've contemplated using it. I even thought ship maybe this

0:53:13.840 --> 0:53:15.879
<v Speaker 1>could be some kind of secret weapon. But like many

0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:19.160
<v Speaker 1>many anglers, sometimes I'm guilty of sticking to the known

0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:22.719
<v Speaker 1>and familiar just a little bit too much. To our

0:53:22.760 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 1>listeners in Australia, Tasmania and New Zealand, I'm sorry you're

0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:30.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be cross with me after this, But that's okay

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:33.680
<v Speaker 1>because I'm already saying right now I'm wrong, and you're right.

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Speaker 1>You already understand the power of the Tasmanian Devil Lord

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:40.799
<v Speaker 1>or TASI for short, if the Internet is correct, But

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I do not. The Tasmanian Devil I own is listed

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>on the website of Tasmanian Lord maker Wigston as Christmas tree.

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:50.680
<v Speaker 1>But when I look at the blended red, green and

0:53:50.719 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 1>gold foil on that body. All I see are Rastafarian shades.

0:53:55.360 --> 0:54:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Tasmanian devils are very unique. Picture a torpedo without any finds.

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.759
<v Speaker 1>The weighted body has a slightly tapered cigar shape which

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:06.040
<v Speaker 1>curves up just a little to give it a bit

0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:09.440
<v Speaker 1>of bow. The cigar bodies are painted or foiled with

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:13.480
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of snazzy colors like hot Canary, Rally's Riot,

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 1>and bleeding Flamingo. That body is then completely encased in

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:22.360
<v Speaker 1>clear plastic, which forms a wide set of tapering wings

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:24.799
<v Speaker 1>on either side of the body. Now, the silhouette of

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a tazzi is kind of reminiscent of a man array

0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:29.799
<v Speaker 1>or a flying squirrel or one of those red bull

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:34.360
<v Speaker 1>whack jobs that base jumps in one of those wingsuits. Anyway,

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the Tasmanian devil is a line through lure, meaning instead

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:40.399
<v Speaker 1>of having attached hooks, you run the end of your

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 1>liner leader through the hole in the lure's body, add

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a plastic bead, and then tie the hook of your

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:48.480
<v Speaker 1>choice to the end of that line in the water.

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:51.279
<v Speaker 1>The combination of those big wings and the freedom of

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the lure has to twist and turn on the line

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:57.480
<v Speaker 1>creates a wide side to side wobbling action that I

0:54:57.600 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 1>call like an odd cross between a traditional spoon and

0:55:00.680 --> 0:55:04.399
<v Speaker 1>a chatter bait. It swims in kind of an arc,

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:08.040
<v Speaker 1>waddling up one direction before dipping back down and waddling

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:12.720
<v Speaker 1>up the other. Tasmanian devils are very popular as trolling lures,

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:17.319
<v Speaker 1>but the smaller sizes are extremely castable. In fact, much

0:55:17.360 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 1>like a spoon, they fly far. At least in the

0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:23.960
<v Speaker 1>videos I've seen. You can also vertically jigitazi. They were

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:27.640
<v Speaker 1>popularized in Tasmania and New Zealand as a trout lower,

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and I got my hands on that rasta model from

0:55:30.120 --> 0:55:32.840
<v Speaker 1>an old fan from down Under. Yet every time I

0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:36.520
<v Speaker 1>go trout fishing, or small mouth fishing for that matter,

0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:38.959
<v Speaker 1>even if the lor is in my bag, I don't

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.439
<v Speaker 1>tie it on, and before you know it, the day

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>is over and I've fished my normal regiment of offerings.

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:47.839
<v Speaker 1>The earliest versions of the Tazzi devil were created by

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Eddie Wigston, and according to Wiggston's website, he and his

0:55:51.320 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 1>son's tinkered with prototypes all through the nineteen sixties and

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:57.719
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until nineteen seventy nine that the lord you

0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:00.080
<v Speaker 1>can buy today when in a full commercial production, and

0:56:00.680 --> 0:56:04.080
<v Speaker 1>point being they've been around man and they're certainly proven,

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:06.399
<v Speaker 1>so it's not a matter of me thinking the lure

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 1>won't produce. For the longest time, I think I talked

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:12.480
<v Speaker 1>myself out of tying it on for fear of losing it.

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>After all, you couldn't run too wally World for another one,

0:56:15.600 --> 0:56:17.799
<v Speaker 1>and it was a gift from a fellow angler very

0:56:17.920 --> 0:56:22.280
<v Speaker 1>very far away. But recently I've noticed something. Tasmanian Devils

0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:26.120
<v Speaker 1>are gaining traction in the walleye seen these days. You

0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.520
<v Speaker 1>can buy them on the website of Fish USA, and

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.240
<v Speaker 1>during a couple of visits to the Midwest over the summer,

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I happen to see Wigston's Tasmanian Devils hanging on tackle

0:56:36.239 --> 0:56:40.600
<v Speaker 1>shop pegboards. So while it's a minor resolution, right, I

0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:44.320
<v Speaker 1>valve to finally fish that damn thing this year because

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not catching anything in the package in the garage.

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll report back. But despite any other resolutions, you make

0:56:51.760 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 1>two maybe at tie on some wacky ship you'd have

0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:56.759
<v Speaker 1>never used before, even if only for a day or

0:56:56.800 --> 0:57:06.279
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes or just ten casts. So that's it for

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:09.000
<v Speaker 1>this week and for this year for that matter. Um

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:11.359
<v Speaker 1>It's been a tumultuous here for Ben, shall we say,

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:13.919
<v Speaker 1>But I would just like to close out by saying

0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 1>how happy I am that you Hayden are here. Man.

0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to two and doing some fresh cool

0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:23.840
<v Speaker 1>ship with Bent and you. When I look back on

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 1>things in one that I was like really exciting, I

0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 1>have this happy man. I like lie in bed at

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:33.560
<v Speaker 1>night at like you know, New Year's Eve or whatever,

0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and I try and think of every like cool thing

0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:39.320
<v Speaker 1>that happened to me that year, and like, you know,

0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:42.280
<v Speaker 1>all the stuff that I was really proud and happy

0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 1>to be a part of. I try and keep the

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>self loathing off the table that night. Uh. And this

0:57:47.600 --> 0:57:49.040
<v Speaker 1>this is like got to be at least in the

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the top ten, right, It's higher than the

0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>bottom of the top ten. Man. I'm so I'm just

0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 1>so happy to be here. Man. It's uh, it is

0:57:57.720 --> 0:58:00.480
<v Speaker 1>an honor and not something that I that I take

0:58:00.520 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 1>for granted. But hey, look, speaking of fresh news ship,

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:08.080
<v Speaker 1>don't forget folks that we're dropping our first listener Q

0:58:08.320 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and a segment next week. We want to hear it

0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:14.240
<v Speaker 1>from you, So keep those questions coming to Bent at

0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the Mediator dot com. Along with all those bar nominations,

0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:21.840
<v Speaker 1>sale bin items, awkward photos, and whatever else you feel

0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like sending. Yes, and keep those Degenerate Angler and Bent

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>podcast hashtags cranking on Instagram. We see them all and

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:31.160
<v Speaker 1>like them all. Yes we do. And let's let's let

0:58:31.240 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>us just say thanks so much for listening to Ben

0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 1>this year, right. Nothing makes us happier than hearing from

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys about how we enhance your Friday's, your drive

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:40.840
<v Speaker 1>to and from work, or how you're actually listening to

0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:42.880
<v Speaker 1>Bent and you're supposed to be answering calls to the

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:46.760
<v Speaker 1>emergency medical center. Um, don't do that, but please do

0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:49.360
<v Speaker 1>have a happy New year, degenerates and go gear up

0:58:49.800 --> 0:59:19.040
<v Speaker 1>to the right