1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Do at least a little something irresponsible like light off 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: an m A D at midnight and rattle the neighbors windows. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I just want to point 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: out I never introduced myself like, Hey, I'm Marty. The party. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: One guy had a rain jack and they're switching hats. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: They had it figured out that nobody was gonna know 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: that they weren't fishing for three days. You know those 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Bass Pro Shop hats. I think I'm going to like 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: start wearing those more in like posts. Good morning, degenerate anglers, 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: and welcome to Bent, the fishing podcast that recently replaced 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: all the tubes on its beer helmet, because tonight all 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: it wants to do is I'm Joe Surmellie, and I'm 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Hayden Samac and uh Joe, Do I sense a rager tonight? No? No, no, 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: not at all. Actually, I'll be enjoying a quiet evening 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: in slippers. But I mean it is New Year's Eve, 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: which is really ever you've ever said, Yeah, that's that's fine. 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: I just figured, look, this is the only time I 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: can ever get away with with theming a show entirely 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: around Andrew w K. No, did you know Joe that uh. 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: Comedian Burt Kreisher is adamant that Andrew w K doesn't 21 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: actually like to party them like he he was like 22 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: adamant about He didn't have like a sketch about it, 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: but like he had mentioned in one of his podcasts 24 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: that he tried to have a beer with him and 25 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: he was like, oh no, man, I'm good and he 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: drank like a quarter of the beer and I wouldn't 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked. Did you know? There's also a 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: conspiracy you can watch those videos that claims Andrew w 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: K doesn't actually exist, like he's not a real person. Yeah, 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: I swear it. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's kind of 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: like the Mattress Firm thing, only cooler. Um. But yeah, 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: so I also follow the Hard Times on Instagram right 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: and one of my favorite ye oh my god, so 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: good and one of my favorite headlines of their's was 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: aging Andrew w K declines Facebook party invite, and I 36 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: thought that was genius. Um. Oh yeah. I also saw 37 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: him open for Aerosmith once and I was the only 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: guy in Madison Square Garden that both knew who he 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: was and was excited to see him anyway, anyway. Yeah, right, 40 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: So anyway, look, you're you're pretty, You're you're young and 41 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: pretty untethered. What are you doing for New Year's I'll 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: just assume there's a vote collusion involved, would I be right? Oral? As? Uh? 43 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: You know, some listeners know I've I've lived kind of 44 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: a another life, and at one point that might have 45 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: been true, man, um, but you know I don't wanna 46 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: afford a VOD collusion anymore. Right, Yeah, well, you know, um, 47 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: I think that uh, I think it might be taking 48 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: it easy to My girlfriend and I were going to 49 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: the East Coast for the holidays, and I'll tell you what, 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: if we're with her parents, it's certainly not going to 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: uh not going to be a vo not gonna be 52 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: a party. I'd say, well, if we're with my parents, 53 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna get wine drunk. But I don't know how 54 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: it was. I was going to play out and your 55 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: parents got a case of Josh Sellers or something, boxing 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: wine whatever. Anyway, listen, no matter no matter how you're partying, 57 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: that's supposed to mean. Man, I don't know, I'm broke. 58 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: My parents aren't fair enough, fair enough no matter how 59 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: you're partying though, right, I feel we we at least 60 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: have to say do it responsibly, please, And if you're 61 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: not partying like me and apparently Hayden, do at least 62 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: a little something irresponsible like laid off an M A 63 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: D at midnight and rattle the neighbors windows. You know 64 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, Um, you know, speaking of responsibility, 65 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: I believe that the end of the year is kind 66 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: of the time to take stock of your many interesting 67 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: and circuitous life decisions and perhaps make a resolution on 68 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: the way you might carry yourself forward to that end. 69 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: Are you a resolutions person? Joe? You know this came 70 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: up last year and and nothing's changed. I am, but 71 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't share them publicly, right Like, I make a 72 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: little deal with myself and then when I fail myself, 73 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: there's no one to yell at me other than myself perfect. 74 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: So it works out. Joe's strategy to success kiddos, a 75 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: lack of accountability exactly, That's what That's how you gotta be. 76 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: Um I do. However, I have one fishing related resolution 77 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: that I am happy to share. Um No, not not kidding. 78 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: I want to take my kids fishing more in two 79 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: and it's not that I don't now right, because I 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: love taking my kids fishing. But to be honest, like 81 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: free time for me is precious right now. Like you, 82 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: you have a lot more of it than I do. 83 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: So when you have that day to get out, it's 84 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: very easy to talk myself out of blue gills and catfish, 85 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and like packing up loads 86 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: of fruit snacks and show and talking myself into doing 87 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: the grown up stuff that I want to do. So 88 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm promising myself that I'm gonna do that less this year, 89 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: even if it means I have to miss a few 90 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: more opportunities, um, you know, to do the kind of 91 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: fishing I really want to do. How about you, man, 92 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: Any any resolutions that you're willing to share at least? Yeah? Man, Um, 93 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, I think that I want to get myself 94 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: into like alpine lake shape. We have this one scale 95 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: at the Mediator office that we use to, uh when 96 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: we're planning trips or whatever. We got to weigh the 97 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: gear because we take it on a bunch of flights 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: and stuff. I stepped on that thing, man, and I'll 99 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: tell you what. I'm still hoping that scales broke. Oh God, please, dude, 100 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: I would kill to be built like you are you nuts? Um, 101 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a fine resolution though, man 102 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: like I'll probably never see an alpine lake. Um you 103 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: after listening, also, you should probably resolve to get yourself 104 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: some gear in two from our sponsors, thirteen Fishing, and 105 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: there I just went in for the quick, hard sell, right. 106 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: I didn't even dance around that. But I really do 107 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: want to thank thirteen for being part of BENT and 108 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: supporting this this year. We're so proud to have them, 109 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: and we genuinely love their gear, and they're a great 110 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 1: group of people. Glad to have him here. A great 111 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: group of party people, I hear. I've heard that thirteen 112 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: Fishing knows how to party, and of course there are 113 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: lots of ways to party. Right back in the day, 114 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: I was a house party guy on New Year's I hosted. 115 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: My dad would would clear out and give us the 116 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: house as long as nobody drove. He's like, do whatever 117 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: you want, just nobody leaves. Um. But also I know 118 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: people that that like, just go to the local bar 119 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: for New Year's. I know people that buy tickets to 120 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: those all inclusive club parties. You know what I'm saying, 121 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: Like at a hotel or something. It's weird. I went 122 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: to school at Tampa briefly, and and down there there 123 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: were a bunch of kids running around with way too 124 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: much money. And one year one of them rented out 125 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: a strip club, private thing. I lived at an international dorm, 126 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: and uh, there was some oil money there, oil money many. 127 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: I've never known anybody who could rent an entire place out, 128 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: but I did almost get suckered once into paying whatever 129 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: it was a hundred bucks to go to one for 130 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: a private Super Bowl party. Um, and I passed. It's 131 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: not really my scene, tell you the truth. But we 132 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: know a guy that knows some guys that wouldn't have 133 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: passed on that kind of party. Right, So let's shift 134 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: into Smooth Moves, our segment where we let guides and 135 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: captain's vent about ridiculous things their clients have done and 136 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: talk to my old friend, Captain Frank Campbell about an 137 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: unforgettable photo shoot. Why joining us today for Smooth Moves, 138 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: My very good friend, Captain Frank Campbell from Louis to 139 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: New York. What's going on, Frank? How are you? Uh? 140 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: Not too much? Joe, just enjoying the weather, great day. 141 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: A lot of snow. You know, nothing crazy going on 142 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: around here. So what is the weather up there? Because 143 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: I was just there, which is why we're doing this, 144 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: because you actually told me a story while I was 145 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: fishing for steelhead with you on the Niagra Um and 146 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: we got lucky. It was pretty mild. Has it gotten cold? 147 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it more true to form up there 148 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: right now? Well? Actually it got windy ergs you know, 149 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: if it could, it's crazy. I mean I think I 150 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: think I'm going to give up the fishing business and 151 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: starting a fight flying service or something, because, yeah, it 152 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: got windier than the fifty miles an hour we dealt with. 153 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: We dealt with sixty winds on Monday. It's that. The 154 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: problem is it keeps going from cold to warm while 155 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: cold can't can't you know, figure out what it wants 156 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: to do here like a lot of people, and you know, 157 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: we're dealing with dirty water, clean water, winds, snow, rain, 158 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, we we caet all four seasons in the 159 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: same day. Sometimes yeah, yeah, no for sure. So just 160 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: just remind me how many years you lived up there 161 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: your whole life, right, how many years you've been guiding 162 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: on the Niagara I've lived up here in my whole life. 163 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: I've been guiding going on thirty one thirty two years, 164 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: so it's been but a long stretch, no doubt about it. Okay, 165 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: So before we get into this story, we we have 166 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: to we have to set we have to set something 167 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: up very quickly, sort of established something and um man, alright, 168 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: we're going to hear from our Canadian listeners. But that's okay, 169 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: it's fine. Part of the conversation that we were having 170 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: that led to this story when you and I are fishing, Frank, 171 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: was that the strip club scene across the border in 172 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: Canada is a little different, generally speaking than here in 173 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: the States. Right. Uh, that's not that I know personally, 174 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, well in my younger years, I'm not 175 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: gonna lie. It was it was on the way to 176 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: debate shop. You had to stop, she did, right, Yeah, 177 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: I picked up, but yeah, it would have been rude 178 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: not to. Yeah. But but but I think and we're 179 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: certainly not going to get explicit, but like, um uh, 180 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: they can wear a lot less over there. It's just 181 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: it's just like a little bit looser kind of vibe. Right, 182 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You're gonna say a lot 183 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: of them forget are folding right? Yeah, yes, got it? 184 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: Because I I also have never been to a strip 185 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: club across the border. I'm not really a strip club guy. 186 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: But like, this is something in fishing maybe in hunting too, 187 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: that you hear a lot about. Like, oh man, the 188 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: strip clubs up in Canada are crazy. So obviously where 189 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: you fish is right on the border. All the bridges 190 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: are right there. You can throw a rock and hit Canada. 191 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: So's it's important to understand that, so that we get 192 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: the full scope of this story. Now, how long ago 193 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: did this happen? It was probably fifteen years ago, I 194 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: want to say, some somewhere in that range. Okay, So 195 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: take us from the beginning what happened, you know, and uh, well, 196 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: we'll just we'll just let it, We'll let it roll, okay. 197 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: So as it always, you know, we're booking a lot 198 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: of trips for salmon and the fall, and I happened 199 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: to book these, uh three three guys to come in 200 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: and they booked three days for salmon Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 201 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: It's kind of during the peak time of the year, 202 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: but that time of the year were balls to the all, 203 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: you know, fishing every day fishing twice a day, so 204 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: it's really where we make our money. So anyways, these 205 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: guys booked these three days and they show up in 206 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: the morning for the Friday morning trip and they're like, uh, 207 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: coming on. I'm like, guys, you really don't need a cooler. 208 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: We have something to keep the fishing. We have a 209 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: live well if you want to keep no, no, no, 210 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: So it's not for that. We got our clothes in there. 211 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that's a big cooler, right, and it's 212 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: like a hundred fifty court YETI type thing yeah, but 213 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, like okay, you know, we'll make room 214 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: for it. Not a problem, you need to close. So 215 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: they get the cooler, put it on, we go up fishing, 216 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: and within half an hour, man, we're bam, we got 217 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: our first fish on. Catch it. It's a nice, you know, 218 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: twenty pound king, and the guys are all excited. Guy 219 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: holds it up, you know, takes a picture with it. 220 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, budd he's taking a turn taking 221 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: a picture with it. Then as other buddies taking a 222 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: picture with it, I'm like, what are these do is doing? 223 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: And now they're saying hold on a minute. I said well, 224 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: we'll get hold on a minute, we want to get 225 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: some more pictures. Next thing you know, they're pulling clothing 226 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: out of their cooler and changing and saying, can you 227 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: turn the boat so we can get the bridge in 228 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: the background. All three of them change their clothing. They 229 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: rain jackets on, and I'm like, whatever, I'm not thinking 230 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: about anything. They do this, and they take like two 231 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: sets of clothing each. I think, I know what's going on. 232 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: These guys are like, hey, you know, let's go back fishing. 233 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: We go back, we touch another one, same exact thing happens. 234 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you guys doing. They want to 235 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: keep the fish, but they say, you know, we'll keep Okay, 236 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: they're keeping them. It goes on. We touched like three 237 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: or four fish the guys, which which is an average 238 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: day that time of the year, and they're happy. I'm happy. 239 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: Were going about one o'clock and I go to clean 240 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: the fish, and after I clean them, they're like, uh, Frank, 241 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: just let you know we're not gonna fish the next 242 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: So I'm like, what, guys, this is like prime time. No, no, no, no, 243 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna pay you, but we're not gonna fish. I'm 244 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: like Okay, I'll take that. You know, they're gonna pay 245 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: me full rate, not gonna fish. Frank gets to sleep 246 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: in there in a time of the year. All good. 247 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: I said, well, we caught enough today that we were 248 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: able to take enough pictures. We're going to the strip clubs. 249 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna stay right there for three days. Well, then 250 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm putting two and two and two together and saying, 251 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: these guys took like twenty pictures of free fish, and 252 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: they're like, we got we got plenty of plenty of 253 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: photography to show to our wives, plenty of pictures. We're 254 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: gonna prove that we were here. Wasn't a gripping green, 255 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: it was an alibi. Yeah, that's all you. And also 256 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: I was thinking these guys were premeditated and everything they did. 257 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: It was crazy because I'm the guys. The other guys 258 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: are like, Frank, what are you doing. You're over there 259 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: with like for five minutes with one fish. I'm like, well, 260 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: we had to get some alibis. Basically, you know, for 261 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: the pretties guys, I mean, Joe thirty thirty some years, 262 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot, but these guys went to extremes. 263 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the one guy had a range jacket, the 264 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: other they're switching hats there. They had it figured out 265 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: that nobody was gonna know that they weren't fishing for 266 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: three days. I mean, you look at pictures, you'll be like, okay, 267 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: and you look at it. Can we go over the 268 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: other side of the river. It was definitely well planned out, 269 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: and kudos to them. I mean they had been there 270 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: before the year before, and it must have taken three 271 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: d sixty five days to conceive this, uh plan, because 272 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: they were like, we're going here. We know a time 273 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: Miss Nude World goes on and you know, four thirtists, 274 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: Like what these guys are unbelievable. I'm not necessarily saying 275 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: I condone it, right, but it's pretty slick, right. I mean, 276 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: that is a lot of four thoughts again, until until 277 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: their wives start counting the spots on the back of 278 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: the salmon man. They're gonna be like, here's the other part. 279 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: And after you told me this story, I was like 280 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: blown away. And then I started thinking about it and 281 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, they actually took it to another level because 282 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: why would they pay you full rate for two days 283 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: that they're not fishing unless the funds on the credit 284 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: card or whatever also have to match the amount of 285 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: days they stayed. That's because I was like, yeah, I 286 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: think they gave me a check, Joe. I think they 287 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: ended up giving me a check for the days, and 288 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: the guys like, what are you talking about. We got 289 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: the guy to receipt here, we got the check canceled cash. 290 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: They had everything figured out. I mean, they weren't going 291 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: to leave something, you know, to uh, hey, why did 292 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: this end? No, they were they had everything. It was, 293 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: it was it was ingenious. I would have hired these 294 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: guys to murder someone if I was. They had it 295 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: all cover. You know. There's definitely a resolution message wrapped 296 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: up in that, like some totally yeah, I mean, definitely 297 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: some good party buys, but also like maybe resolving not 298 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: to be shady with with the mrs would be a 299 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, yeah, I agree. The premeditation in that 300 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: is insane and uh it's it's like one of those 301 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: stories where if you say, um, if you only harness 302 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: that brain power for something good, you know what I mean, 303 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: Like the world might be a better place if you 304 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: put that much forethought into something good. Anyway, we're about 305 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: to harness our brain power, though barely one last time 306 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: in the year one to bring you the fish related 307 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: stories dropping harder than the ball in time square. This 308 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: is fish news. Fish news. That escalated quickly. All right, 309 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: let's kick out this news jam. Um. We don't really 310 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: have much housekeeping other than wanting to mention that. Um. 311 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: Several listeners reached out in regard to last week's show, 312 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: which of course featured a riveting interview with Santa Claus 313 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 1: and wanted to know. I wanted to know why he 314 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: sounded so much like Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs. 315 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't sure what to say. Well, you know, 316 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: I feel like both of them spend a lot of 317 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: time in isolated locations. It's dark and cold. Yeah, Um, 318 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: anybody who spent enough time out in like real cold 319 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: weather like that knows what. You know, you can dry 320 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: out your skin, so I think put the motion on 321 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: their skin. It's starting to get dark, sorr. But you know, 322 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: I think I think that pretty much sums it up. 323 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: So you can stop asking that. Hayden just figured it out. 324 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: You know, you get a little ashy, you need a 325 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: little lotion, you know what I mean. Anyway, UM, we 326 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: should probably try and get ted Levin on the show. 327 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes maybe he fishes. He's one of the most underrated 328 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: actors ever, you know what I mean, So I would 329 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: just ask him to say Buffalo bill lines. Um. Anyway, 330 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: friendly reminder news, here is a competition, Heyden and I 331 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: do not know which story the other guy has grabbed. 332 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: Um and at the at the end, our resident noisemaker 333 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: audio engineer Phil will declare one of us a winner. 334 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: And it's it's my lead this week. So unless you 335 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: you have anything else to add, I'll get started here. 336 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: Get on with the Joe. Yeah, I know people want 337 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: to go party, so let's just move it along. Anyway, 338 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: as we close out begin a new year, I'm actually 339 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: gonna help you twice with my story today. I'm gonna 340 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: make you more fashion conscious and richer in one fell swoop. 341 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: Does that sound I'm gonna do it. I'm about to 342 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: So this story comes from the story comes from the 343 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, and um the headline, Lord, give me 344 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: strength to read. This is how a six dollar bass 345 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: pro Shops hat became a fashion trend. Nice? Nice you know? Uh? 346 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: This is honestly this I've been noticing for about how long, 347 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: like a like a year or so well. See that 348 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: just tells you we we look at I think maybe 349 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: some different things online, like because I have not really 350 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: been noticing this and then this story hit and I 351 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: was like, wtf is happening here. Here's how the story begins. 352 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: Direct quote from the story. Jesse Alvarado doesn't fish or hunt, 353 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: and he wouldn't describe himself as an outdoorsy person, but 354 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: on many mornings, Mr Alvarado, a restaurant worker in Los Angeles, 355 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: plops a Bass Pro Shops Trucker hat on his head. 356 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: To Mr Alvarado, it's just a good looking hat. It's 357 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: a simple design, like you can throw it on with anything. 358 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: He said, Yes, my hatred will grow as the piece 359 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: goes on. Anyway, According to John Paul Morris that's the 360 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: son of Bass Pro Shops founder Johnny Morris, uh BPS 361 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 1: has definitely noticed the run on the trucker hat with 362 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: the classic BPS logo, the vintage one with the jumping bass. Now, 363 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: he wouldn't specify how much of a sales increase they've 364 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: seen with these hats, but I'm betting it's pretty staggering, 365 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: right because part of the charm of these hats is 366 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: that they only cost six bucks, and these days it's 367 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: not uncommon for the hats to be completely sold out, 368 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: both in store and online. In fact, there's so popular 369 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: that Fashion East is shall we say, routinely check the 370 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: BPS website and there are even rings where where the 371 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: members tip each other off to when they'll be restocked 372 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: so that they can get the hats. Right. So, uh, 373 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: why the rush to hoard them? What's the big deal? Well, 374 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: here's the part where I help your financials in two 375 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: because I'd be willing to bet some of you probably 376 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: have this hat listening right now right It's it's a 377 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: classic hat. According to the story, people are flipping the 378 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: six dollar Bass Pro Shop trucker hat for up to 379 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: twenty bucks a pop on eBay right now because they 380 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: have become hard to get commodity. And as I understand it, 381 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: you could flip a new one. You could flip one 382 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: that you've sweated in on on Lake of the O's 383 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: Arks for the last twenty years. Both will sell. You 384 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: might get more for this for the sweaty one. Oh man, Yeah, dude, 385 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: nothing more that hipsters like than like provenance. There's not 386 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: even hipsters really, man, It's like, Joe, are you familiar 387 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: with the term boy. Yeah, yeah, I am. I mean, 388 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't know like the full definition, but I've heard 389 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: it thrown around. It's just like kind of like a 390 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of like gen Z millennial, Like toolbag is what 391 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: that basically comes from. I like it. I'll start using 392 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: that more now that you've explained it. It is the 393 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: same negative connotation of a hipster, but it's more widely 394 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: applied to like jockey sort of folks. Got it. I'm 395 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: not sure if it's going to make it to the 396 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: podcast listeners now, you know, no, no, no, it is. 397 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, I I you know where I 398 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: heard the term I don't want to get off. There 399 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: was the thing on Instagram. It was like a comedy 400 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: thing out of California called Cherdley's. Does that ring a bell? 401 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: M m? Maybe I haven't seen it in a while, 402 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: but they used to use that term. Anyway, we'll move on. 403 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: We'll move on here. Um, but this this gives me 404 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: an idea. I'm gonna bring it up a little bit 405 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: later in this podcast. But I have an idea that 406 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: I think you might like. Okay, okay, So the article 407 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: tries to break down exactly why these hats have become 408 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: so trendy and the reasons very This is going back 409 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: to the story. Patrick Simms, a thirty four year old 410 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: account manager at a marketing agency in Austin, said the 411 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: caps bring him back to high school. Okay, that's cool, 412 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: no issue that He says he went to BPS with 413 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: his father back in the day and has fond memories 414 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: of this. Also cool, nothing, that's that's great. But then 415 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: he says the hats also make him think of resurgent 416 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: fashion trends in the aughts, and I hate that term. 417 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: In the aughts when celebs like Paris Hilton and Justin 418 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: Timberlake helped popularize trucker hats. Oh yeah, like the von 419 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: Dutch Von Dutch exactly. Mr Sims to BPS hats satisfy 420 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: his NEStalgia on two fronts, personal and pop cultural. And 421 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: I just need to clarify um that it was not 422 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton or Justin timber Lake that popularize the mess 423 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: trucker hat. I think the o G people listening will 424 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: agree with me that it became popular well before them, 425 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: well before the odds, way back ninety four, when one 426 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: was worn by Sea Bass in Dumb and Dumber. That 427 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: is what popularized the trucker had and I would love 428 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: to remind everybody what Sea Basses Hat said, but I 429 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: won't on the show. Uh So then we have right 430 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 1: then we have twenty eight year old John Wright, who 431 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: is an entrepreneur and an actual hunter based in Nashville. 432 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with him, but I assume he has 433 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: a TikTok following because he says, um, on TikTok, it's 434 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: all you see. It's every different color hat. You see 435 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: the trucker hat everywhere. I'm not on TikTok, so I 436 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: don't do that. So that was new information to me, 437 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: that idea that I told you about in the beginning. Uh, 438 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: my girlfriend is on TikTok, and we have talked before 439 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: about the bass pro trucker hat trend. Really this has 440 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: come up in conversation at home. Well yep, and I 441 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: asked her about it in this exact context. Why are 442 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: all these boys wearing these trucker hats? Um? I think? Yeah. 443 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: My idea was, why don't we give her a call 444 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: real quick? Oh my god, do it right now. I'm 445 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna tell her that I that I want to get 446 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of these trucker hats and we'll see what 447 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: she says. It's the news first. Hey, um, Joe and 448 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: I have been talking about how like we're going to 449 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: connect um more with like that we're trying to get 450 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: like the fishing audience, and we're trying to get a 451 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: younger demographic, and like part of the way we're doing 452 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: that is like social media ship and you know those 453 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Bass Pro Shop hats. Yes, I think I'm gonna like 454 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: start wearing those more in like posts. Okay, why are 455 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: you telling me this? I just wanted to know what 456 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: you thought about like those hats. I think they're stupid looking. 457 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: Why because they look do? She? We like? What? What 458 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: do you? What do you mean? I don't know. It 459 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: just reminds me of like a frat bro and I'm 460 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: not about it. Okay, Um, Joe, do you have any 461 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: uh what I said? Thanks for that, but we need 462 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: to continue on with news now. For cutting into the 463 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: party time, Joe said, thank you for that, but we're 464 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: getting on with news now. Okay, great, Joe, Okay, bye. 465 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: Do She was not It's not It wasn't one of 466 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: the words I was gonna use, but she said it 467 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: not me, So you know, and let me tell you what. 468 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: Frat boy is only four letters away from boys, So 469 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: you know anyway, all right, so let's let's let's get 470 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: out of this right. Uh, the story continues. The trendiness 471 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: of this has confounded some long time loyalists of the brand. 472 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: Adrian Williams, twenty six, And this is gonna be my 473 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: favorite one. This is the last guy from the story 474 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about. But you have to 475 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: hear this one. Adrian Williams, twenty six, of Raleigh, North Carolina, 476 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: has older family members and peers who grew up hunting 477 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: and shopping at Bass Pro. Ask him, why are you 478 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: using the hats as a fashion statement. Mr Williams, an 479 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: account executive, explained that he likes the shape of the 480 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: hats and the array of colors. He grew up hunting 481 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: and now legs to pair the hats with Chelsea boots 482 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: and skinny jeans. All right, I like Chelsea boots. How 483 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: did I know you were going to say that? I 484 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: didn't even know what Chelsea boots were, or at least 485 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know that's what those slip on boots were called. 486 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 1: I didn't know they were called Chelsea boots. But for 487 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: anybody else who didn't know, here's a quick explanation of 488 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: them from YouTube channel Real Men, Real Style. In fact, 489 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: if we were to use a car analogy, those work 490 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: boots are a truck. This an suv built on a 491 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: car chassis in a nutshell. It makes them versatile, but 492 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: they're really at home in the city. So dude, I 493 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: cannot like whatever quick story. When I was in college, 494 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: trucker hats were the thing. I never wore them, and 495 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: not because I didn't read them. I know I didn't, 496 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: and it's not because I didn't like them. I just 497 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: kind of didn't wear hats for like fashion. I wore 498 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: ball caps when I went fishing. I wore hats when 499 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: I fished, but I never wore one a class or 500 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: like out to the bar. Really, I'm nowadays, I just 501 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 1: want to hide my mostly salt with a splash of 502 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: pepper hair, so I wear a hat all the time. 503 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: But back then, all the hats I owned said like 504 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: fish Pond, Betty and Nick's baiton Tackle, the feathered hook 505 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: fly Shop, dorky ship, like you can't wear that to 506 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: a party. Um, But I remember seeing this particular bass 507 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: pro shops hat back then, and I was like, that's 508 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: my hat. It's a cool trucker hat and supports my 509 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: fishing jones. And shortly after deciding to get one, I 510 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: saw two in the same night at a house party 511 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: where like Chevelle was playing very loudly, and I was like, 512 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: you know what, never mind, right, But I don't know. 513 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: Then it seemed like the whole trucker hat thing died, 514 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: so I'd say the dudes that kept wearing them were 515 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: more likely to be anglers and you know that just 516 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: thought they were a cool hat. But now after this, 517 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's it's like, if you're one 518 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: of those people that loved him, like we regret to 519 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: inform you that it's not cool for your girlfriend. It's 520 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: douche at least not you know, it's not cool for 521 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: hardcore fisherman. So I don't know. I feel like it's 522 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: almost more knu a Salt Life sticker now, So spell 523 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: that ship on eBay if you got it, get your 524 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: money and buy a few packs of Sanko's instead Bass 525 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: Pro Shops hats. There you go. Oh and one more thing. 526 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: Listener Glenn Cranefeld sent me a link to an op 527 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: ed piece about this hat and it was written by 528 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: Matt Labash that I highly recommend you guys read. It's 529 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: called bass holes. So just google bass holes plus Labash. 530 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: That's l A B A s H and enjoy that. 531 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: Moving on from bass pros to robo bass. Uh. This 532 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: week in fish news, we have a very strange development 533 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: in the fight to combat invasive species. Uh. Scientists saw this. 534 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: I saw this, and I was gonna grab it next 535 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: week if you didn't grab it this week. This is 536 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah. Yeah, So scientists have been developing 537 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: a robotic large mouth bass to learn more about the 538 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: impact of fear on the invasive mosquito fish. Before we 539 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: got ahead of ourselves here and into what everyone wants 540 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: to hear about that being the robo bass, we need 541 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: to have a little like ecology lesson and get to 542 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: know the mosquito fish. The mosquito fish is like a 543 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: It's a small fresh water speci It only gets about 544 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: like an inch and a half two inches long that 545 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: was introduced to water bodies across the world as like 546 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: a means to combat mosquito born illnesses by controlling mosquito populations. 547 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: Hence their name they pray a lot on mosquitoes um. 548 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: There are some instances of this working, that being the 549 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: introduction of mosquito fish um, most notably in Sochi, where 550 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: there's actually a statue of a mosquito fish commemorating its 551 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: role in eradicating malaria on the nearby Black Sea coast. 552 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: No way that really worked out there. I didn't know that. 553 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: Fun fact, Wait, it seems to It seems too. I 554 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: mean like there are various, like you know, factions of 555 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: like the scientific community who were like that worked really well, 556 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: and then there are others like that did not work 557 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: as well as you might think, and it was probably 558 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: some other ship. These drugs we developed worked even ben Yeah, yeah, yeah, 559 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: they're pretty good. Unfortunately, the success of the introduction program 560 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: was limited, and instead many areas saw like negative impacts 561 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: caused by the introduced species, that being the mosquito fish. Ironically, 562 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: the mosquito fish's presence often made the mosquito population increase. 563 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: And the reason that is is because they compete. Yeah, 564 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: they'd out compete native fish for like other food sources. 565 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: So the mosquito fishes don't just eat mosquitoes, they eat 566 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: other shot it, got it. They had options, so they 567 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: opted out of mosquitoes kind of right exactly, and that 568 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: led to crashes in native fish populations, and those native 569 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: fish would also eat mosquitoes. So if there are like 570 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: five fish, one of them being the mosquito fish, four 571 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: of them being other native species, those five species together 572 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: we're eating mosquitoes. Got it? I think? Yes, it's it's 573 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: a hard thing to unpack it and sort it out later. Yeah, 574 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Okay, Anyhow, now the moment 575 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: you've been waiting for, enter robo bass. The robo bass 576 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: is a horrifying like albino robot large mouth. I mean 577 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: this is just based on some of the pictures that 578 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: I've seen of it, and scientists have been using it 579 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: to scare the ship out of the mosquito fish in aquariums. 580 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: It's as an experiment, it kind of cracks me up. 581 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: As I kind of touched on for half a second 582 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: in the opening, scientists are using the robots learning exactly 583 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: what happens when the mosquito fish are exposed to fear. 584 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: By building a robot replica of one of their like 585 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: most voracious predators, that being the large mouth, scientists are 586 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: able to scare the mosquito fish in the control setting, 587 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: and then observe the physiological and behavioral changes the mosquito 588 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: fish exhibit in just six weeks of exposure. They've noted 589 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: that the mosquito fish has basically become a nervous wreck, 590 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: losing weight in acting like just not relaxed. Importantly, they've 591 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: noticed two physiological changes that could spell success for the 592 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: future of mitigation efforts. One the females get skinnier, and 593 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: two the male sperm production is cut in half. Mm hmm. Right, 594 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: so it's having major impacts on the reproduction viability of 595 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: the mosquito fish theoretically in a tank environment right now, 596 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: to be fair, right, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So I 597 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: mean this is all proof of concept, right, and that's 598 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: what we're gonna get to in a second year. So 599 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: what is the future of the robo bass. Well, you're 600 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: not going to find a pawn by you getting like 601 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: a full on stocking of terminator fish anytime soon. Its 602 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: main purpose was proof of concept that being the fear 603 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: could result in the mosquito fish undergoing rapid negative physical 604 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: changes in response to a stressor. To that end, scientists 605 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: are looking at other more logistically feasible methods of stressing 606 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: out these fish, such as predator sense. Now that the 607 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: concept has been proven to work, so this is super fascinating. Um. 608 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: And just to be clear, what they're basically saying is 609 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: they're developing these robo bass, right theoretically, you could put 610 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: them in an environment with mosquito fish, okay, and they're 611 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: gonna stress those fish out to sort of keep them 612 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: in check. But the robo bass obviously isn't going to 613 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: eat the mosquito fish so that they can keep eating mosquitoes. 614 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: Is that the point? Because otherwise, why wouldn't you just 615 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: throw a bunch of large mouth in the pond if 616 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: they don't have them, Other than the fact that they'll 617 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: then eat the mosquito fish, the robo bats, in my 618 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: understanding of it, is used specifically in these controlled environments 619 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: to prove that like stress will result in like a 620 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: decrease in reproduction viability of the mosquito fish. Right. So 621 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: the end the end goal then is not like we're 622 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: gonna make these things and if you have a mosquito 623 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: fish problem by a robo bass, throw it in. That's 624 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: got it. That's not it. Although I bet you this 625 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: is going to result in some sort of like crazy 626 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: like articulated crank bait. What this is really meant to 627 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: do is just to prove the concept that the react 628 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: to fear in this way. And obviously like it's not 629 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: viable to go put a robot in, like all these 630 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: bodies of water were several robots and all these bodies 631 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: of water. No, no, of course you wouldn't. And plus 632 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't know how long they've 633 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: been doing this, but I mean fish aren't as dumb 634 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: as we think. Eventually that my guess is in the 635 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: controlled environment, they'll stop being nervous because they'll realize it's 636 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: not going to come over and eat them, you know 637 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, I mean they do have the 638 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: thing program to like lunge at the mosquito fish like 639 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: it threatens them in like a very like immediate sort 640 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: of way. Um. But yeah, like I said, the whole 641 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: thing is just proof of concept in the controlled setting. 642 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: And I think what they're really leaning on is, um, 643 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: you know, things like predator sense, got it, you know, 644 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: And that would kind of do two things. One, it 645 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: would still allow them to like you know, put this 646 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: stressor into the mosquito fish's habitat. But also, you know 647 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: when you said why not put a bunch of you know, 648 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: why not stock these spots with a bunch of large mouth? 649 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: A lot of these spots like should not be stocked 650 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: with large mouth for instance. Um, they have a big 651 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: problem with mesquite to fish in Australia. And I think 652 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: per our conversation with Karl Jocobson, there are not currently 653 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: a bunch of large mouth around Australia. No, they don't 654 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: need them down there. They got way cooler fish than that. 655 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: Why you want to go, you know, throw a lay 656 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: mass bass down there with all them Murray CODs and stuff. Yeah, anyhow, 657 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: I guess we'll be at the mercy of fill the engineer, 658 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah we will. I just have to say, though, my 659 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from your story, I just I want one 660 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: of the robot bass from my kid. Like there's already 661 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: a crank bait that kind of does that, but like, 662 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 1: oh my god, he'd have a ball with that, throw 663 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 1: that that ship in the bathtub, he'd have a field day. Um. Anyway, 664 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: I cut you off, Well, yes we're going to fill 665 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: for final judgment. Um, and I'm sure he's he's probably 666 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: squeaking this in just minutes before the ball drops. So um, Phil, 667 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: Happy New Year, my friend and I I really hope 668 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: you're not wearing a bass Pro Shops trucker hat right 669 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: now or else I'm screwed. I'm screwed in terms of judgment. Um. 670 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: And after we what are we doing after we hear 671 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,359 Speaker 1: from Phil? Oh, yeah, we're gonna go into a very 672 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: special edition of that's my bar, because that's right. It's 673 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: a roundtable with our dear friend and guide Marty a 674 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: k a. The Party. Ye. And by the way, if 675 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: you notice that that Hayden's audio sounds a little off 676 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: and this that's my bars because he was legit drunk 677 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: when we were recording and forgot to plug his mic 678 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: into the karaoke machine. Zero one zero zero one one 679 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: zero one zero. That's binary for Hayden. You're the winner 680 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: this week. You know, sometimes when I work from home 681 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: and I'm not in the office, I leave behind an 682 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: albino robot version of myself just kind of prop him 683 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: up in my chair. It looks like a crash test 684 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: dummy with a two thousand seven zac Efron haircut. It's 685 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: been three months and Hayden still hasn't noticed, and I 686 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: think that might say more about me than it does him. 687 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Best God damn bar tender from Kim buck 688 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: to to Portland's Maine Portland argument for that matter. So 689 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: we're doing kind of a special That's My Bar this 690 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: week free Form Jazz. That's My Bar. I guess it's 691 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,399 Speaker 1: kind of like a bar round table, if you will, 692 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: which is something that we've we've never done before. We've 693 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: always relied on on listeners to write in and tell 694 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: us about their favorite fishing bars. But well we'll shake 695 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: it up. What the hell so so joining Hayden not today? Um, 696 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,959 Speaker 1: longtime friend of the program, Marty Ye Cross Current Guide Service. 697 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: He's been, He's been, You've been with You've been on 698 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: here many times now, Marty, Yes, A couple of least 699 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: yes that I know of, And it only seemed fitting 700 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: since we have a loose party theme for this episode 701 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: that we have to invite you because your I G 702 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: handle is Marty a k A. The Party, So we can't, like, 703 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: you can't have a party themed bent and not invite 704 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: Marty a k A. The Party Now true, When when 705 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: I was first introduced to Party, I was actually party. 706 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: I've been calling a party Marty all week. It's fun. Yeah, 707 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: I was introduced to him as Party Marty. I just 708 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: want to point out I never I don't think once 709 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: in my life have like introduced myself like, Hey, I'm 710 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: Marty the Party. That name was getting to be here, 711 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: that name was given to me here on the Delaware, 712 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: like the guys are the guides around here? Just started 713 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: calling me that. Please expand because my next question was 714 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: going to be how did you become Marty a k a. 715 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: The Party? It's so it's a probably based upon that. 716 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: It rhymes a big deal to do with it. I 717 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: don't I don't know. When I first came on the 718 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: Senior in the Delaware was a couple of people that 719 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm still friends with, um rhymed. I don't know. I 720 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: guess I just put off that vibe that I like 721 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: to have fun, which I do in fairness, right, So 722 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: for our Halloween episode, we didn't end up with a 723 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: photo of you and a shark costume passed out in 724 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: front of golf cart. That would have been like that 725 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: was like the traitive party Marty. So away I thought, 726 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: I thought this is what we would do, right, we 727 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: always we always have listeners right in about their favorite bars. 728 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: Um And when we kicked off this segment, when we 729 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: first started it many many moons ago, I actually talked 730 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: about one of my favorite bars on the Upper Delaware 731 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: where you are. It used to be Lyddy Is What 732 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: the hell is it called? Now? I just keep calling 733 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: it liddy Is? I mean I still do too. It's 734 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: called Nick Breezes Crosstown Tavern. Yeah, are the are the 735 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: Are the fried mushrooms still as good there? Marty? You 736 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: know I don't eat mushrooms, So but I could, I could, 737 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: I could tell you what I normally get there is 738 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: still as good. But I mean it's nothing. It's wings party. 739 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: Marty doesn't eat mushrooms. That almost doesn't make sense, you 740 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: know anyway, So you know, I think between the three 741 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: of us, we've been to enough divy joints in different 742 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: parts of the country. Maybe something close to home, and 743 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,479 Speaker 1: I just hiden and I thought we'd rap a little 744 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: bit about like what are just some of the most 745 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: memory a fishing bar that sticks out to you, whether 746 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: for a single experience or someplace that you visit all 747 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: the time. It's a roundtable. Marty and you're the guest, 748 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna let you go first. Don't let me 749 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: go first? Yes, all right, I mean you're in Marty 750 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: a k. The party, so like we're like, we're gonna 751 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: have a hard time following you up, I think, yeah, 752 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: so there's definitely there's definitely one bar. So there's one. 753 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: When I first got to the Delaware, Um, I came 754 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: kind of with like nothing ish, like a hobo almost, 755 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: so I don't have much so yeah, yeah, what a 756 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: lot of guides do, which I find is common even 757 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: now when they first start guiding somewhere in the minuterary, 758 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: they like you know they're there. They try to be 759 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: as cheap as possible. So I was in a trailer. 760 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: I decided to live in a trailer. Sure, so I 761 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: ended up through a body of mine at the Beaver Doll. 762 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: So it's place is called I'm I might get crucified 763 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: for like giving this spot out, but it's not really 764 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: a secret spot, but it's kind of a cool hangout. 765 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: So I had a trailer. So this is a place. 766 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: It's a it's a campground, it's a bar restaurant combination 767 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: right on the Delaware. Is this on the East branch More. Yeah, 768 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: it's right where at the junction of where it's just 769 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: just near where downriver of where the junction of the 770 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: beaver Kill and the Delaware meet. This this place is 771 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: just really cool and it's kind of like, I don't 772 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the right phradge. It's 773 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,880 Speaker 1: kind of like the UM. When I was there, it 774 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 1: was like the first starting like underground campground, like it 775 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: just started, like it just opened for the last couple 776 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: of years, so everyone was kind of new there. And 777 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: it turns out that I still have friends that I 778 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: met there, and it just turns out there's just like 779 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of guides and anglers, hardcore anglers that just camp, 780 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, most like I would say like fifteen percenteven 781 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: were guys that live there like throughout the week and 782 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: the whole during the season, and the rest are like 783 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: weekend guys who have like trailers on the river, like, 784 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, you get this diverse mix of people like 785 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: old school fly tires, like guides, um, you know, like 786 00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: just all walks of life. And there's a bar to 787 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: and not to mention it's just like a really fun bar. 788 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: The people who own it and and run it They're amazing. 789 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: I love them, and they're good to their customers and 790 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: they treat us again, it's just a fun place. So 791 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: you can just imagine like me first coming to the 792 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: Delaware trying to learn the ropes and I just get 793 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 1: thrown and this kind of like it's you know, an 794 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: underground e local diebee bar. I love it though, and uh, 795 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: just all these mix of people of different flight tires, anglers, 796 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: from all different experiences and just a really cool place. 797 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: Is it The kind of place though that like you 798 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: have to be in with the family and then if 799 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 1: you are the random dude that just strolls in there, 800 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: you're like, you're not supposed to be there. I wouldn't 801 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: say that. I mean no, they're like I said, everyone's 802 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: friendly there. You know. It's see the irony the one 803 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: that came to mind for me. I've only been there once, 804 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: but man, it really stuck with me. And also ironically, 805 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to Montana for a bar. Okay, it's not 806 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: in Bozeman, don't get excited, Okay, but this was years ago. 807 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,280 Speaker 1: My first assignment for Field and Stream Ever in mont Hannah. 808 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: We ended up in a place called the Antlers Saloon 809 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: in Wisdom, Montana. You heard of this, You're a liar, 810 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: I swear to God. Up in the Shields Valley. I 811 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 1: don't know. It's on the beats on the Big Hole. 812 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: It's in Montana, man, far far west side, almost on 813 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: the Idaho border. Oh no, I have not been there's 814 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,439 Speaker 1: one with antlers in the Shields Valley because I burn 815 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 1: hunt up there something. I bet you there's a bunch 816 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: with antlers in Montana and generals. But anyway, so it's 817 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: like this total honky tonk country joined on the side 818 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 1: of the road and like it was me and my 819 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: buddy from Jersey and we had no business being in 820 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: there right. Like it was that kind of place where 821 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: you felt like, obviously we're not from around here. I mean, 822 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: there's a gas station in the antlers saloon and Wisdom. 823 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: But what it made it so memorable was you guys, 824 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: ever been in a dive bar where somebody sort of 825 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: sidles up next to you and starts talking. And sometimes 826 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: that's cool, sometimes that's very cool, but sometimes the time 827 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: you're just like, please stop talking to me, and like 828 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: we must have just looked like baby faced, like not 829 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: from around here. And this straight up Montana cowboy, like 830 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: grizzled flannel shirt. He sat down next to us, and 831 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean, by the end of the night he was 832 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: begging us. He was he was giving us all his 833 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: girl troubles, his girlfriend troubles, and like begging us to 834 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: give him a ride back to Idaho. And then it 835 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,839 Speaker 1: got really weird and at one point and he said 836 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: all kinds of wacky ship. But at one point he's like, 837 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 1: you give me your ride home. I'll show you some ears. 838 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean. I'm like, what do 839 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: you mean you'll show us something's like ears. I'm like 840 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: human ears. He's like all right, And the dude just 841 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't shake us. But it was just it was like 842 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: so dusty and dingy in there. I don't know how 843 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: you just moved on from there, didn't You didn't say like, 844 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: excuse me, No, I didn't. I didn't really want to. 845 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: I just wanted I just wanted to shake the dude. 846 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: I just wanted to shake the dude. And that was 847 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: that was That was like the Antler Saloon stuck with 848 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: me because of that guy, who likely if he hasn't 849 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: passed away, it's probably still there almost every night, you 850 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: know what, I mean, but don't you wonder, Yeah, but 851 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: you're covering headphones how much you wonder your whole life? 852 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: Like what if I would have said, like, yeah, I 853 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: want to see your ears, so you would have gotten 854 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 1: in the car with dude and just driven him across 855 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: the border to Idaho through the mountains in the middle 856 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: of the night to go see his ears and his 857 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: establishment what I'm saying like you just like moved on, 858 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 1: like it was like all right, whatever, Well I didn't 859 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 1: quite go down like that, but I'm not gonna spend 860 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: an hour telling the whole saga. But I mean, I 861 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: remember that it was one of those guys where he 862 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: flim flamed, like he was in tears over his his 863 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,240 Speaker 1: woman leaving him. But then it would just shift into 864 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: like his woman's waiting for him at home and like 865 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 1: we can go meet or two Like dude, dude, it 866 00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: was just it was very all over there, very strange 867 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: that a very drunk person conversation man speaking in which 868 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,359 Speaker 1: you having a holiday party. Attle. I just wanted to lead. 869 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: I just want the listeners to know that Hayden is 870 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: mildly for this recording. Yeah, Phil, Phil who just popped in, 871 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: was feeding you cider and my ties or something right. 872 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: We have Phil's feeling good too, and chef Kevin Gillespie. Uh, 873 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 1: he made hot buttered rum. Phil made like a buttery nipple. 874 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: Is that like a tour of a buttery nipple? I 875 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. It tastes like if you 876 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 1: let's see, if you dropped your fruity rum drink into 877 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 1: the into the butter that you're dipping your crab in. 878 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: That's what it tastes like. But a good time is 879 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 1: being had by A good time is being had by 880 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: well me. Uh, we'll keep it going. What's your boss? 881 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: What's your round table? Bar? Where Marty and I have 882 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: most recently cross paths was out at an outfit or 883 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 1: that I have mentioned on this podcast, I think a 884 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: time or two before, owned by the folks that initially 885 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,400 Speaker 1: introduced me to party Marty. Um, we met there and 886 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: that's that's Sam Probably yeah, senate or over Outfitters and 887 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: now Senate over Outfitters. In addition to having lodging and 888 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,320 Speaker 1: a you know, a pretty good tackle shop. Great shot 889 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: by the way, really a good shot man. It's good 890 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: you could ever want. As far as clothes, man, it's 891 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 1: a good place to hang at um. Yeah, well I'm 892 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: saying they like it's a great shop too, that he 893 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: has everything as literally everything man has as he and 894 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 1: that he were talking about is my buddy Chris Marty. 895 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: Has Chris ever just run you out of house and 896 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: home on the dartboard? Yes, oh my god, yes, I 897 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 1: lost two hundred dollars to him in a weekend one 898 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: time playing. I don't have a smart enough I mean 899 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm terrible darts. I was smart enough, never bent money, 900 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: but I've played. Yeah, well you're smarter than I am 901 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: because she was the But anyhow, Senator for Outfitters also 902 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: has a little bit of a greasy spoon and a 903 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 1: bar attached to it. Now, if you go down the steps, 904 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,919 Speaker 1: if you go go through the fish and lode down 905 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: the steps kind of takes the subterranean enclave. Yeah, exactly, 906 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 1: it's all like naughty pine and like you know, just 907 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: would and they give you peanuts and you can throw 908 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: the sh Don't they have don't they have them? Is 909 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,719 Speaker 1: that maybe it's not them? Don't they have the money 910 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 1: all over the walls? Yeo, I was just getting to that. Now. 911 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: The main like you know, the main quality that this 912 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: bar has. The main characteristic is a few thousand bucks 913 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 1: staple all over the wall and all sorts of just 914 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: drawn upon dollar bills. You know, I have one that 915 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,280 Speaker 1: I addressed George Washington up like Donald Trump with markers, 916 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: and it says I'm gonna catch a steelhead. It's gonna 917 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: be huge. Yeah, you know, I think there's one that 918 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: has mind. It says Marty the Party on it. I 919 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: wouldn't imagine it would say anything else. I'll tell you what, man, 920 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 1: that bar starts off. It was like a normal bar 921 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: where you buy your drinks and you to give you 922 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 1: the drink, and you and you're drinking. And then by 923 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: bound ten o'clock at night, man, it is it is 924 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 1: no longer a normal bar. You're behind the kitchen, you're 925 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,399 Speaker 1: making yourself a cheese, yourself out of the well. Yeah, 926 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: they're like helping. We're too busy, you do. Like that 927 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: happens often there. My takeaway from this this very slap together, 928 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 1: uh that's my bar round table, is that at some 929 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 1: point down the road we should do Uh it was 930 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: Hayden you mentioned it like an East Coast um bar crawl, 931 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,720 Speaker 1: fishing bars crawl and film that as it it should 932 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: be a video series on the media YouTube channel. The 933 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 1: local watering hole is important to the fishing like culture, 934 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, yeah, so maybe, yeah, maybe maybe we'll 935 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: get together and do that after the New Year. We'll 936 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: make that a goal and then maybe it expands out 937 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: because I'm sure everybody else could fill us in on 938 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: where to do the crawl in the Midwest and then 939 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: on the West Coast and then through the Rockies. I'll 940 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: tell you what man doesn't see as I will participate 941 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: in anytime. Marty, thank you for bringing the party directly 942 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: to Bent on New Year's What are you doing for 943 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: New Year's? Um? I think I'll be at my brothers 944 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: and Massachusetts doing nothing. Actually, do you want to say 945 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: that again, because I assume the answer would be partying. 946 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna ruin your whole ship here partying. Yeah, your 947 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: headset makes you look like a stockbroker in two thousand 948 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: and two trading right now. I got multiple screens. You 949 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:38,760 Speaker 1: guys don't know trading right now. So happy that Marty 950 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,360 Speaker 1: could stop by for that little watering hole rap sessions. 951 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: It's always fun having Marty on. Um, it's even more 952 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: fun fishing with Marty. I know you guys have hung out. 953 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever actually fished together, but yeah, 954 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: I say every time he's on, he's the best. Three 955 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 1: of us. Need to fish together. That's the thing we 956 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,640 Speaker 1: have to make happen. And and the bar crawl, both 957 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 1: of those things. But maybe it's a good idea, um, 958 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: And if you're listening, you know, put that in the 959 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: uh in the content ideas we do need to go 960 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 1: hang out and fish with party Marty all jokes aside um, 961 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: And that dude is like like universally fishy, you know 962 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. He's really good at all types of 963 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 1: fly fishing, from like drives to mice to nim thing. 964 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: He's like, you know, a jack of all trades. Yeah, 965 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,720 Speaker 1: and he really gets after it, man. Like he's fishing 966 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: on his days off, dropping clients off in the evening 967 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: and going back out mousing by himself. So if you 968 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: live in the Northeast and one of your resolutions is 969 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: getting better at fly fishing, Marty is not a bad 970 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: guy to know, a good guy to contact. Yeah, he 971 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: can help you out. Um now, now, well, well that's 972 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 1: not a resolution of mind, you know, because I already 973 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 1: know everything about every type of fly fishing. I do 974 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: have one more small fishing resolution, which i'll explain in 975 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: this week's end of the line. Well, that's not loud enough. 976 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: In honor of the new year, and since we've already 977 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: brought up resolutions, I'm gonna close out end of the 978 00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: line for one talking about a lore I've never fished. 979 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: I've just stared at it for about five years now. 980 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: I've contemplated using it. I even thought ship maybe this 981 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 1: could be some kind of secret weapon. But like many 982 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: many anglers, sometimes I'm guilty of sticking to the known 983 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: and familiar just a little bit too much. To our 984 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: listeners in Australia, Tasmania and New Zealand, I'm sorry you're 985 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna be cross with me after this, But that's okay 986 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: because I'm already saying right now I'm wrong, and you're right. 987 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: You already understand the power of the Tasmanian Devil Lord 988 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 1: or TASI for short, if the Internet is correct, But 989 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: I do not. The Tasmanian Devil I own is listed 990 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 1: on the website of Tasmanian Lord maker Wigston as Christmas tree. 991 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: But when I look at the blended red, green and 992 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: gold foil on that body. All I see are Rastafarian shades. 993 00:53:55,360 --> 00:54:00,320 Speaker 1: Tasmanian devils are very unique. Picture a torpedo without any finds. 994 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 1: The weighted body has a slightly tapered cigar shape which 995 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: curves up just a little to give it a bit 996 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: of bow. The cigar bodies are painted or foiled with 997 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: all kinds of snazzy colors like hot Canary, Rally's Riot, 998 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: and bleeding Flamingo. That body is then completely encased in 999 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 1: clear plastic, which forms a wide set of tapering wings 1000 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 1: on either side of the body. Now, the silhouette of 1001 00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: a tazzi is kind of reminiscent of a man array 1002 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: or a flying squirrel or one of those red bull 1003 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 1: whack jobs that base jumps in one of those wingsuits. Anyway, 1004 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: the Tasmanian devil is a line through lure, meaning instead 1005 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,399 Speaker 1: of having attached hooks, you run the end of your 1006 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: liner leader through the hole in the lure's body, add 1007 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: a plastic bead, and then tie the hook of your 1008 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: choice to the end of that line in the water. 1009 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: The combination of those big wings and the freedom of 1010 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: the lure has to twist and turn on the line 1011 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: creates a wide side to side wobbling action that I 1012 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: call like an odd cross between a traditional spoon and 1013 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 1: a chatter bait. It swims in kind of an arc, 1014 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: waddling up one direction before dipping back down and waddling 1015 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,720 Speaker 1: up the other. Tasmanian devils are very popular as trolling lures, 1016 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: but the smaller sizes are extremely castable. In fact, much 1017 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 1: like a spoon, they fly far. At least in the 1018 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,960 Speaker 1: videos I've seen. You can also vertically jigitazi. They were 1019 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: popularized in Tasmania and New Zealand as a trout lower, 1020 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: and I got my hands on that rasta model from 1021 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,840 Speaker 1: an old fan from down Under. Yet every time I 1022 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: go trout fishing, or small mouth fishing for that matter, 1023 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,959 Speaker 1: even if the lor is in my bag, I don't 1024 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,439 Speaker 1: tie it on, and before you know it, the day 1025 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 1: is over and I've fished my normal regiment of offerings. 1026 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 1: The earliest versions of the Tazzi devil were created by 1027 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 1: Eddie Wigston, and according to Wiggston's website, he and his 1028 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 1: son's tinkered with prototypes all through the nineteen sixties and 1029 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: it wasn't until nineteen seventy nine that the lord you 1030 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: can buy today when in a full commercial production, and 1031 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: point being they've been around man and they're certainly proven, 1032 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 1: so it's not a matter of me thinking the lure 1033 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 1: won't produce. For the longest time, I think I talked 1034 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: myself out of tying it on for fear of losing it. 1035 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: After all, you couldn't run too wally World for another one, 1036 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: and it was a gift from a fellow angler very 1037 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:22,280 Speaker 1: very far away. But recently I've noticed something. Tasmanian Devils 1038 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: are gaining traction in the walleye seen these days. You 1039 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: can buy them on the website of Fish USA, and 1040 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,240 Speaker 1: during a couple of visits to the Midwest over the summer, 1041 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: I happen to see Wigston's Tasmanian Devils hanging on tackle 1042 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 1: shop pegboards. So while it's a minor resolution, right, I 1043 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 1: valve to finally fish that damn thing this year because 1044 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: it's not catching anything in the package in the garage. 1045 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 1: I'll report back. But despite any other resolutions, you make 1046 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 1: two maybe at tie on some wacky ship you'd have 1047 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: never used before, even if only for a day or 1048 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or just ten casts. So that's it for 1049 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: this week and for this year for that matter. Um 1050 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,359 Speaker 1: It's been a tumultuous here for Ben, shall we say, 1051 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,919 Speaker 1: But I would just like to close out by saying 1052 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: how happy I am that you Hayden are here. Man. 1053 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to two and doing some fresh cool 1054 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: ship with Bent and you. When I look back on 1055 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: things in one that I was like really exciting, I 1056 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: have this happy man. I like lie in bed at 1057 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 1: night at like you know, New Year's Eve or whatever, 1058 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: and I try and think of every like cool thing 1059 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: that happened to me that year, and like, you know, 1060 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: all the stuff that I was really proud and happy 1061 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: to be a part of. I try and keep the 1062 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: self loathing off the table that night. Uh. And this 1063 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: this is like got to be at least in the 1064 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: bottom of the top ten, right, It's higher than the 1065 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: bottom of the top ten. Man. I'm so I'm just 1066 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: so happy to be here. Man. It's uh, it is 1067 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: an honor and not something that I that I take 1068 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 1: for granted. But hey, look, speaking of fresh news ship, 1069 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 1: don't forget folks that we're dropping our first listener Q 1070 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: and a segment next week. We want to hear it 1071 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: from you, So keep those questions coming to Bent at 1072 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: the Mediator dot com. Along with all those bar nominations, 1073 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: sale bin items, awkward photos, and whatever else you feel 1074 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: like sending. Yes, and keep those Degenerate Angler and Bent 1075 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,720 Speaker 1: podcast hashtags cranking on Instagram. We see them all and 1076 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: like them all. Yes we do. And let's let's let 1077 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 1: us just say thanks so much for listening to Ben 1078 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: this year, right. Nothing makes us happier than hearing from 1079 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: you guys about how we enhance your Friday's, your drive 1080 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: to and from work, or how you're actually listening to 1081 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,880 Speaker 1: Bent and you're supposed to be answering calls to the 1082 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: emergency medical center. Um, don't do that, but please do 1083 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,360 Speaker 1: have a happy New year, degenerates and go gear up 1084 00:58:49,800 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: to the right